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- Comment on Maple Leafs vs. Canadiens preview: Habs send Tinordi and Thomas back to Hamilton (2015-02-27 15:25:22)
That's fair. I haven't watched him super close, which is probably why I'm not finding his play all that bad. I know last night there were some awkward moments, but I also saw him flatten a few people in front of the net and he is not afraid to push back when guys try to scrum it up at the whistle. I saw the knockout in the AHL, and while not a good thing, his ability to get right back on the horse impressed me. I don't think he will ever be as mean as his Dad was, but he is big, strong and willing enough to do the job, and if he continues to improve could be a better all around player than Mark was. Boll is one of the tougher guys in the league, and for 23 year old Tinordi to A) step up and protect a team-mate only a couple of weeks after getting dropped, and B) prevent Boll from getting loose on him, I think bodes well. Like you, I'm a big fan and want him to do well, so that may colour my perspective a bit.
- Comment on Maple Leafs vs. Canadiens preview: Habs send Tinordi and Thomas back to Hamilton (2015-02-27 15:03:44)
Did someone in the organization speak to that? Just wondering 'cause in my opinion he looks pretty close to ready now. He is not a perfect player, but he brings a lot to table and I thought played pretty well. Lots of hits. Couple fights. No major gaffes. To me it is strictly a personnel issue right now. They are jammed up with d-men and - despite being close - he is just not able to get ahead of the veterans the depth chart now. Next year for sure, and possibly the playoffs this season. Unless Hamilton makes a run in the AHL. Part of me thinks that Pateryn could be getting 'showcased' a bit. I know a lot of people hate that term, but if MB is looking at other deals between now and Monday, Pateryn could be something that other teams are interested in as a throw in. Him hanging with the NHL pace could sway teams that are otherwise on the fence....
- Comment on Maple Leafs vs. Canadiens preview: Habs send Tinordi and Thomas back to Hamilton (2015-02-27 14:26:35)
Pretty unsettling. I'm one of those people who tends to avoid doctors, mostly for fear they are gonna tell me something I don't want to hear. Kind of stupid, especially given what I just read.....
- Comment on Maple Leafs vs. Canadiens preview: Habs send Tinordi and Thomas back to Hamilton (2015-02-27 14:14:35)
I'll second that. Here's hoping for a solid stretch run, home-ice advantage and a healthy foray deep into the Stanley Cup playoffs. They are proving that they stack up well against pretty much any opponent, and can play it any way you want it.
- Comment on Maple Leafs vs. Canadiens preview: Habs send Tinordi and Thomas back to Hamilton (2015-02-27 13:29:55)
Agreed. I really like the addition and feel like it was a smart trade by MB that benefit the Habs for years to come. I was commenting mostly on how heavily he was used in comparison to some others, during what was his first game with MTL.
- Comment on Maple Leafs vs. Canadiens preview: Habs send Tinordi and Thomas back to Hamilton (2015-02-27 13:24:50)
I don't get the whole focus on this idea of 'ruining' players. I see some people making those types of comments, but honestly, I see more use of the word 'ruin' by people who are focused entirely on defending Therrien and rebuking their fellow posters for any critical commentary. The use of players by a coach hugely influences their development. If a coach is not enamored with a guy because of his play or his attitude, then it is his prerogative to not play him. And if he views a player in a certain way, it is his prerogative to deploy him accordingly. If he doesn't play him or use him in situations that can help him improve or enhance particular aspects of his game, then the player won't develop that part of his game. In a lot of ways the player can only control their work ethic and their attitude. The coach decides whether they like the player and what he brings, and where and how much he plays. Coaches may not 'ruin' young players, but they have a huge influence on the way they develop, from the time they join the team until the time one of them leaves.
- Comment on Maple Leafs vs. Canadiens preview: Habs send Tinordi and Thomas back to Hamilton (2015-02-27 12:54:00)
Personally I thought they looked pretty even. Maybe Pateryn did look better in the eyes of mgmnt however. Doesn't really matter at the end of the day. I just found it strange that opted to keep Pateryn considering they have a RH shot already in reserve, and Gonchar having played the right side for much of the year. Either way, good to see the young guys come up and hold their own.
- Comment on Maple Leafs vs. Canadiens preview: Habs send Tinordi and Thomas back to Hamilton (2015-02-27 12:41:31)
I have to think it was an attempt at integrating Smith-Pelly quickly. Giving him a look on a couple of different lines, giving him some special teams minutes. Gauging where he fits in all those in-game scenarios. I definitely don't think he did it based on merit. Pelly played well enough, but he wasn't amazing by any stretch. At least not IMO.
- Comment on Maple Leafs vs. Canadiens preview: Habs send Tinordi and Thomas back to Hamilton (2015-02-27 12:33:46)
Not a criticism of sending Tinordi back down, but if it is being done because either Gonchar is coming back or Weaver is slotting in, wouldn't it make more sense to send Pateryn back down? Is he not the guy who is filling in on the right side? Just an open question, because I thought Pateryn would be the guy to get displaced once Gonchar came back. Presumably they will be leaving the Beaulieu-Gilbert pairing intact and easing Gonchar back in on the left side.
- Comment on About last night … (2015-02-27 11:10:30)
I don't know if they are improved necessarily, but the kids are doing a pretty damned good job out there considering. Few mistakes, and MUCH more physical. I had pretty much given up on Pateryn, but the last couple of games have suggested to me that he might still stick as a bottom pairing guy. He does not lack for enthusiasm, and if he can limit his mistakes, he's got the right physical skill-set.