neumann103 - (Peter Robinson)Member since May 13, 2011
Habs fan since: 1971
Favorite current player: Tomas Plekanec
All-time favorite player: Larry Robinson, Guy Lafleur, Ken Dryden
"Et le but!"
- Comment on Bouillon an insurance policy at Habs’ training camp (2014-09-18 20:19:56)
Thanks twi. You know, Autumn , when an old man's thoughts turn to training camp... Other than the agony of PK and Eller negotiations, this was a pretty business as usual kind of summer, so apart from learning about prospects I haven't been discussing Habs much. Now I get to cross my fingers and hope my next big thing man crush Jacob De la Rose has a good camp. "Et le but!"
- Comment on Bouillon an insurance policy at Habs’ training camp (2014-09-18 20:08:21)
Yes, from what I read (admittedly brief excerpts on Twitter) he said he did not dislike Boudreau, he just disagreed with decisions he made both about the team and about Selanne's utilization. I think he is right. In general if I were forced to believe one of Selanne or Boudreau was correct and one was a fat idiot, I don't think I would have too much trouble picking. I don't think he owes Boudreau any cone of silence now that he is retired. Besides it's not like he wrote Chico Escuela's Bad Stuff 'Bout the Mets "Et le but!"
- Comment on Bouillon an insurance policy at Habs’ training camp (2014-09-18 19:52:42)
Yeah Gerry, every once in a while I will disappear for a few weeks or months. Sometimes scares me what I see when I return! "Et le but!"
- Comment on Bouillon an insurance policy at Habs’ training camp (2014-09-18 19:51:04)
You are Welcome! "Et le but!"
- Comment on Bouillon an insurance policy at Habs’ training camp (2014-09-18 19:39:03)
Yeah, as I posted above, I don't think anybody is on the fool's errand of trying to penalize a hit that may be a tiny bit late. You have to be able to allow momentum and otherwise pretending to pass the puck would essentially be an ironclad way of avoiding checks. What a bunch of us are opposed to is the totally gratuitous there-was-no-way-he-would-still-have-the-puck-when-i-get-there cheap shots. Which have become normalized and lionized as "finishing your check" as a relatively recent development. I don't blame players for doing it. They are being coached to do it. They are being rewarded for doing it. They are not being penalized for it. They being praised by some idiot between the bench wearing a headset. The only incentive to not do it would be "someone might do this to me" but we have seen a thousand times that is rarely a disincentive. It is just bizarre to me. It is as though over the course of a decade or so slew footing went from being the surest way to start a brawl on ice to being praised on TV and coached to 12 year olds. "Et le but!"
- Comment on Bouillon an insurance policy at Habs’ training camp (2014-09-18 19:05:24)
You really need to go look at the stats on even strength goals per 60 minutes played over the last 4 seasons before you dismiss Pacioretty. To be fair I think the real question is what do you mean by "elite forward" because by objective measurement, he is. Subjectively if we are going to get into "carry the team" or "put the team on his back" territory then we are getting into definitions of clutch and might as well just try and trade objectively elite players for Clutchy McClutcherson "Et le but!"
- Comment on Bouillon an insurance policy at Habs’ training camp (2014-09-18 18:54:12)
Now how will I explain the tattoo of Travis Moen's tractor i just had inked on my back? "Et le but!"
- Comment on Bouillon an insurance policy at Habs’ training camp (2014-09-18 17:53:32)
1. Not true. He takes the hard defensive zone draws against top competition. Faceoffs are overrated. 2. Why does Desharnais? Difference is Desharniais cannot handle the defensive responsibilities of center "Et le but!"
- Comment on Bouillon an insurance policy at Habs’ training camp (2014-09-18 17:45:51)
Bingo! There have always been and will always be hits a fraction of a second after release of the puck. There obviously has to be some latitude because otherwise you could fake the pass to "scare off" the hit. The guy rips the puck off the glass while you are two strides away? There is going to be contact. This has always been the case. No one is arguing this. What has very definitely changed about the game is players lining guys up from way away, being 30 feet away when they get rid of the puck and barrelling right into him. 40 years ago, that got you 2 minutes or 5 minutes and was regarded as a cheap shot because it was. It might have started a brawl. Today that is called "finishing your check" even when anything resembling the initiation of the check began after the target was no longer the puck carrier. And idiots praise it. And teach kids that it is normal. There always is a grey area. You can have a reasonable discussion about how big a gap in space or time is "late" as a practical requirement in a fast moving physical game. And reasonable people could disagree a bit on the nuance of those calls. But what has happened in the last 25 years is normalizing a planned charge that never had any possibility of resulting in contact while the player had the puck, an often begins after he has got rid of it. One of the defenses of Chara's assault on Pacioretty as a "hockey play" was an extension of this. I don't think Chara intended to kill MaxPac, but he initiated that play with Pacioretty nowehere near the puck, so it doesn't matter. You have to be able to step into a guy who is passing or shooting the puck. You can't be allowed to line him up from a mile away knowing full well that the puck will be gone long before you get there. That, to quote someone, is BS. But maybe I am just not sufficiently Western to understand "Et le but!"
- Comment on Bouillon an insurance policy at Habs’ training camp (2014-09-18 16:06:42)
Bwoar Nobody is disputing the intent of what a late hit is supposed to do. There are all sorts of forms of intimidation that are against the rules that might have an effect on an opponent. Spearing a guy might make him think twice about wanting to play. Does not make it a legitimate strategy. Same with charging. The allowed context for physical contact in hockey is separating the puck carrier from the puck. Other things are penalties. The fact that some leagues decided to stop calling certain of these penalties is what we are talking about. I expect we all have our own list of overcalled or undercalled penalties. Personally I think that the current standard for a hooking call in the NHL is insane. But it doesn't really matter that much if a few extra hooks are called. Not calling blatant charging on the oter hand is a big deal. This gets people injured. "Et le but!"