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- Comment on Subban, Habs submit salary figures; Lacroix new assistant coach (2014-07-31 14:04:00)
The PK salary debate has raged on and on because quite frankly there is little else to debate. Canadiens fans love to be d-o-o-m-e-d! PK is like any other really good player. There are nights when you would put a C on his chest and nights when you put a hand over your eyes and wonder what happened. The fun isn't in what happens to PK and his bank account, but in chattering away about it and reading the other opinions. Poor Weekes tweeted an offhand comment dismissing the Habs offer as insulting and starts a mini-uproar. The joy is in the journey not the destination.
- Comment on Subban, Habs submit salary figures; Lacroix new assistant coach (2014-07-31 10:57:06)
There are a ton of factors but the quote about if it was 8 for 8 it would be done makes sense on some level. I think you have to look at PK along two lines, on ice and marketability. PK is a very good D, although he'd probably play the wing better. But market wise perhaps only Crosby has a better grip. Now put Stamkos in TO and I am sure market would fall into his lap. Put PK in TO and he would take the market in a month and look for more. Put PK in an arena with 8000 and you'll soon see 18,000 and comps hard to come by. Then TV, appearances, the rebranding of the franchise to be PK Subban and the Wandering Icewolves or whoever. So given that it is not done yet, wasn't done before the shortened season, wasn't done last season, and that Meehan doesn't like to leave money on the table, I guess it might get done if the Canadiens can get their deal, or if the Canadiens have a deal scoped out with another team. The team has left enough money to cover any reasonable arbitration award they disagree with so as not to immediately UFA Subban but even that to me is a sign he is gone in the planning. Likewise PK isn't going to take less than he could get somewhere else. The difference being that those Canadiens seats are full with or without PK. PK outgrew his market and he knows it.
- Comment on Subban, Habs submit salary figures; Lacroix new assistant coach (2014-07-31 10:19:24)
@MaritimeRon There you go. You have to look at the track record. PK plays pretty darn good hockey but he isn't complete. PK plays a second game and he is perhaps the best we have ever seen at it. He broadcasts. He works with the press, appears on panels, does spots and ads. PK loves the camera and it loves PK. He is a natural. The press comes out on PK's side just like the fans do. He belongs in a huge media market, TO is the only choice in Canada, but any of the major US markets would do. His agent's job is to get him there by hook or by crook. PK is a distraction. Frankly Montreal lives for that. If not PK it is Halak, or Huet, or Theodore, or the kids chaperoned while the coach dates whoever. 21 seasons of distractions and counting. But as a media swirl PK can be a whirlwind, put butts in empty seats, and pull cameras out of college football and into now full arenas. He is gone, sooner or later. The PK brand needs to move to a bigger pond.
- Comment on Subban, Habs submit salary figures; Lacroix new assistant coach (2014-07-30 17:36:15)
Imagine Franson starting on one blueline and Subban starting on the other. Suspect Subban scores two.
- Comment on Subban, Habs submit salary figures; Lacroix new assistant coach (2014-07-30 16:29:44)
PK held out at the start of the 2012-13 season, hoping the team that had finished 27th the year before would flounder. Instead they did very well, PK gave it up, and signed.
- Comment on Subban, Habs submit salary figures; Lacroix new assistant coach (2014-07-30 12:04:07)
It is nice to see PK's $ figure in the press. Those talking about 9, 10 or 12 can re-assess. You guys talking 11 and 14 can carry right on :-) The place will go nuts no matter the outcome. If this goes to arbitration, and I expect it will given PK's track record, be prepared. If I was the TSN I'd have Bobby Mc and the boys ready. HabinBurlington said it below, the boss isn't afraid to make tough choices. I would add I don't think he is ever caught unprepared either. Should be over quick.
- Comment on Subban mum on contract talks during appearance at Canadian Open (2014-07-28 12:15:24)
And to understand what could have been. Orr was 26 in 1975, and went on to play 36 more games over the next four years. As with Crosby the rules were interpreted differently on fouls against Orr. He was supposed to suck it up, not complain, and take it. Players that good enrage fans and opponents. Sad.
- Comment on Subban mum on contract talks during appearance at Canadian Open (2014-07-27 17:27:54)
For a young man just into the NHL Kreider has managed to injure three goalies in a year. If he lasts another 10 years in the NHL he'll get one from every team, two from one. Yes the Canadiens were in that series. Price has come into his own, and out of an Olympics where he stoned the opposition and more hockey experts (not commentators, but guys who make their living assessing talent) described him as the best in the world. The Canadiens game was built around Price. The Rangers came out gangbusters against a tired team, did their best, and slowly the tide began to turn towards the Canadiens. So Kreider "accidently" took out Price. The play was a hockey play. It wasn't sporting, but under NY NHL interpretation it was allowed. Price could have avoided Kreider or taken his head right then and there. Perhaps next time he'll reconsider. Hardly sporting but nonetheless satisfying. Would the Canadiens have won that game, that series, that Cup? We'll never know. Like the man said "Anyone who tells you he has all the answers doesn't." We can imagine it would be a different series with the players not having to worry about a rookie goalie in a pressure cooker. Me? I'd probably brake if I saw Kreider in a crosswalk. Pretty sure I'd brake. Almost certain.
- Comment on Subban mum on contract talks during appearance at Canadian Open (2014-07-27 12:02:42)
I hear you. I don't know about the "generational" aspect. He has the potential to be. PK isn't that great a shooter. He shoots a lot but hits players, glass, and misses. Even then he had a couple hundred shots on net and frankly a very low scoring percentage. He needs to be ten feet closer or a bit smarter with his shots. I think his shot hurts and it is pretty hard to get players on his own team to stand in front of it. It is unlikely he can get any closer as they pressure the point when he is on as his decision making is adrenalin pushed. I think though, if PK can just calm TF down yet retain that passion, he can be everything you wrote. Perhaps more.
- Comment on Subban mum on contract talks during appearance at Canadian Open (2014-07-27 11:51:32)
Hey thanks. Imagine having to answer the same question over, over, and over again like Emelin had to with the K and N HL comparisons - and still calmly smile.