Michael Farber talks Therrien, Olympics on new HI/O Show

Former Gazette sports columnist Michael Farber, who now works for Sports Illustrated and TSN, is the guest on this week’s HI/O Show, joining Gazette columnist Dave Stubbs and sports editor/host Stu Cowan to discuss the latest news¬†surrounding the Canadiens.

A recent HI/O poll had 68 per cent wanting the Canadiens to fire coach Michel Therrien and Farber notes how a coaching change probably isn’t the answer to the team’s problems. The panel also discusses what GM Marc Bergevin can do to address the Canadiens’ lack of scoring punch and how Max Pacioretty can improve his game.

Farber, who is headed to the Winter Olympics, talks about what he’s looking forward to most in Sochi and there’s a discussion about the impact the big international ice surface will have on Team Canada.

There is a new¬†HI/O Show posted every Wednesday afternoon at hockeyinsideout.com. Next week’s scheduled guest is Dick Irvin, the legendary voice of the Canadiens and Hockey Night in Canada.

(Photo by Sterling Agres/HI/O Show)

429 Comments

  1. habulations says:

    Strong game we just need some goal scoring. We’re lucky to get one out of the four points this weekend. Maybe a trade will happen to get us a goal scorer(s).

  2. nek25plus says:

    According to the Denver Post…PK Subban for Parenteau! First of all, that is just silly. Second, but if its Parenteau for Bourke, I’d rather keep Bourke. And please dont tell me he’s giving up Bourke and Thomas? We don’t need to get smaller and add an injury to it. PA has a knee injury. MB is going to get robbed by Roy and Sakic. Roy is saying he likes Parenteau, just no room for him right now! In other words…dump a guy he doesn’t want or need. A player that can’t crack his line up. So why should we want him. And his injured knee.

  3. SteverenO says:

    While there is no question that Bournival on the wing is a MUCH better option than playing Eller with Plekanec and Gionta, it is NOT the best option for the team. Here’s wgy:

    Bournival/Plekanec/Gionta have played together for 140 minuutes at even strength , spread over 11 games.
    (games 9-16, 20, 30, 31) they were on the ice, together, for 140 minutes at even strength and during that time the team scored 5 goals and gave up 6. The w-l record during those games was 5(W)-4(L)- 2 (OTL) .

    Briere has also played together with Plekanec and Gionta for (parts) of 11 games. They played together for a total of 101 Minutes ( less minutes because Therrien substituted Moen for Briere in the third periods). While this line (48/14/21) were on the ice the team scored 8 goals and allowed only 1.

    The teams record during those games (games 22-29 & 43-45) was 8(W)- 1(L) -2 (OTL).

    Talk about changing lines for no reason at all.
    It is, or should be, obvious to anyone paying attention that Therrien is incapable of creating an effective line-up and sticking with it. If I were a players agent I would NOT recommend that any of my players sign a contract to play under this coach.

    I also find it interesting that the duo of Pacioretty and Desharnias have only played with 3 different (right) wingers all season long whereas Plekanec / Gionta have had 8 different team mates line up beside them.

    Playing with 51 and 67 have been Gallagher 276 minutes, Briere 56 minutes, and Bourque 33 minutes.

    With Briere the line of 67/51/48 were on for no gals for and one goal against in 56 minutes, and with Bourque the line has accounted for one goal scored and zero goals allowed in 33 minutes.

    Overall the line of 67/51/11 have been on the ice for 276 minutes with 13 goals being scored and 11 allowed during that span.

    (all times mentioned here are at even strength only and the data is as of January 16th)

    regards,

    Steve O.

    SteverenO’s blog can be found here:
    http://www.hockeydata-central.com/blog/

  4. chemic says:

    trading markov….oh dear!

    how about the habs for once show a bit of a niveau by keeping a player till the end who commited his entire carrer to this club? sure, Timmins would pick a fine player out of this second rounder but our future stanley cup triumph really does not depend on that single second round pick, instead, if you have a wounded, grinded down but still effective and loyal soldier in your own army, you dont show him the door, you gave him a medal and a proper salute.

    screw business, let him retire in style.

    • CJ says:

      Would you feel that way if the return was for a more established, albeit young player, like Tyler Toffoli or Tom Wilson?

      • chemic says:

        and why should someone trade such a player for a rental like markov? if our guys dont trust in his future way of playing hockey with their money, why should someone else?

        if markov is out of montreal, he sure goes for the big buck with nice contract or he will go home. that team will face the same question like we do but with difference we might get a hometown discount on the contract.

        they really should sign PK, after that, lets talk.

        • bwoar says:

          It’s called “Cup run” and teams do it each year. Except us *sigh*

          “thoroughbred”

          • chemic says:

            “cup run” like a team trade some picks for a guy like Douglas Murray? do you really wanna see Markov end like that? do you really see Markov as a part of a cuprun on another team? if your answer is yes, i dont get the that logic of trading away such an asset.

          • CJ says:

            Look what Kaberle got for the Leafs when he moved to the Bruins. If they do not trade Markov for assets it will be a missed opportunity.

            I like Markov and appreciate what he’s done for this organization, but Montreal owes him nothing. The second a GM starts to make decisions with his heart he’s finished. Do you feel the same way about Gionta? Hindsight being 20/20 can you imagine what we could have gotten in 2009? If you recall we were swept in four straight games. I’d have taken the future assets as opposed to a four game sweep.

          • chemic says:

            playing the “2009 card” is kind a cheap way to prove your point. making the playoffs was an accident (one goal towards the panthers if im recall correct was the breaker) and the Gainey Carbo Fiasco didnt help either. we are miles away from that situation. i can totally see us make some noise like 2010 and trading away markov will not help us to do better that back in that year. of course you can please yourself with that “in XX years with X Y and Z ready we will be a force for years” but im a bit tired of that groundhog day story. im okay with trading markov straight up for an executioner on the scoreboard but we all know thats not gonna happend.

            talking business without heart, well making the playoffs on any cost to grab the revenue of 2, 3 or even 5 games is exactly the way.

            and nope, im not feeling the same way about gionta. why the heck should i? i like the guy but probably he will go down in the books as a succesful devil and not as a habs capitan. markov on the other hand….honestly i dont understand your point of putting Gionta in this.

        • nunacanadien says:

          As if we didn’t learn the first time over Streit. A bit of money helps to keep the team competitive over time especially with special teams. Losing Streit has cost the habs big time.

      • bwoar says:

        Markov for Toffoli – hell yes please.

        “thoroughbred”

        • CJ says:

          Agreed! That would be amazing. LA needs help on the PP…..

          I’ve seen crazier deadline deals. If Paul Gaustad to net a first round pick, anything is possible.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      Suppose we lose him to FA for nothing? Suppose he wants term + coin and we prefer not to pay? Suppose we can get two studs? Lots of factor to consider.

      • CJ says:

        Great points. At the very least it needs to be thoroughly reviewed. We have options. It would be a disservice not to explore them.

        • nunacanadien says:

          Markov wants to retire in Montreal. Heck half the team is retired already and collecting pogie for God’s Sake! Look at Gionta as a classic example. At least old geezer Bouillon gives it out as good as he takes it. It’s pathetic to watch these veterans poke check passes like they dont’ care. Teaches the young ones how to be lazy. Then we have a firebrand like Subban who gets heck from Therrien for being too happy with his goals. heck any coach would be happy if his team scores. Fire Therrien already. We need to get the goals back, even if it means watching Subban and Price being happy over winning. I thought the game was about being happy and sometimes winning and eventually getting a cup? Oh wait somone forgot to tell Therrien. This Coors toronto Habs ownership committee that puppets Molson as a front clearly don’t want the habs to be successful!

    • CJ says:

      Let’s give that medal to Bouilion.

    • nek25plus says:

      Agree. Markov deserves to decide if he wants to stay or go. If he had played for a more successful club over the last 15 years he’d be considered an elite D all over the league. Markov has given Montreal his all.

      He’s earned the right to decide his own fate.

  5. habstrinifan says:

    If DipsyDoodler is talking pure marketing as to why Bournival is not on billboards like Latendresse and Lapierre used to be I tend to agree with him. It seems as if he’s not marketed at all as the other two were.

    Maybe twice bitten.. once shy or how that saying goes.. HABS dont want to go down that road again. A lesson well learnt I would add if this is the case.

    Maybe their marketing department is now more low key in its approach. Wasnt it Pierre Boivin (I dont think he’s with the club anymore) who was the major push for all the promotions especially under Gillette. He branded the CH and made money left right and centre for Gillette.

    Maybe as some posted, Bournival is low key and doesnt excite the marketing gurus like Lapierre or Latendreese did.

    Who knows. I think Bournival likes it this way though.

    I cant wait for a line with Bournival and Crisp. It’s gonna happen folks . You mark my words. Will make you think about Gainey/Jarvis/Carbonneau/ Riseborough/Tremblay etc.

    We need a Riseborough though. And while we are at it how bout a Bouchard.

    Question. On this team today, where would you place Pierre Mondou. Top line?????

    • bwoar says:

      Very, very glad they aren’t marketing this kid. While I doubt the machine has slowed any since Boivin’s day, perhaps a bit of wisdom has set in and they don’t want to distract the kid with the endless hoopla they trotted out for Latendresse.

      “thoroughbred”

  6. piper says:

    @guardianangel. The Habs should take the best offer they can get for Markov (which I think will be decent as a rental). If they resign him for what him and his agent will be asking then that is a step backwards IMO. He has slowed down considerably with the knee injuries and at his age he’s only going to get slower. He will be picked up at the deadline only as a rental and will test free agency.

    • nunacanadien says:

      Hey Markov got us wins so far. When we didn’t have Markov our power play struggled. Only way the habs win some nights cause they are still thinking like smurfs coz of Gionta, the captain smurf is the habs win by scoring in power plays. Markov and Plekanec along with MaxPac that is a killer line and when Therrien allows Subban there, it is a great combo especially if Galynchuk is healthy.

  7. Ron says:

    Budaj in, Boo and Diaz sit again..

  8. Mats26 says:

    With back to backs on Superbowl weekend, Budaj makes no sense tonight. Especially with Price coming off a shutout.

    On second thought, probably makes complete sense to Therrien.


Leave a Comment

You must be logged in to post a comment.