HI/O Show: The return of St. Patrick … and much more

Chris Nilan and Patrick Roy, who was back in Montreal Tuesday night as head coach of the Colorado Avalanche, were teammates on the 1986 Canadiens team that won the Stanley Cup, and Nilan shares some stories about Roy as a teammate during this week’s HI/O Show, along with Gazette columnist Dave Stubbs and sports editor/host Stu Cowan.

Nilan also talks about another former teammate, Mario Tremblay, and why he likes him so much. Canadiens fans know all about the bad realationship between Tremblay as a coach and Roy, which led to the goaltender being traded from the Canadiens to the Avalanche in 1995. But the panel talks about the two being back on speaking terms now and also about what Vincent Damphousse did that upset Roy on the day the goaltender played his final game with the Habs.

(Photo by Sterling Agres / HI/O Show)

563 Comments

  1. Maritime Ronn says:

    Lots of fun in Lalalala Leaf land.

    Randy Carlyle made sure he was being asked about James Reimer after a one-goal loss in Detroit.
    “I thought he was okay, you know, just okay,” said Carlyle

    “So he said I was just okay?” said Reimer, responding to Carlyle’s comments. “I thought I played good.”

    Further inflaming the matter afterward, Reimer’s agent Ray Petkau tweeted,
    “As is customary in Toronto, when your team plays poor defensively game after game you blame your goalie.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GJ2fKD1MtA

    • SmartDog says:

      Yah that’s a head scratcher.

      Unless Carlyle is trying to distract from how much the Leafs suck and draw attention where he doesn’t give a crap (and even that is stupid).

      Or maybe he’s trying to show that Therrien’s treatment of Subban isn’t really so bad. :)

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      • Maritime Ronn says:

        SD

        He better start giving a crap about Reimer as it looks like Bernier could be gone for a while (groin)

        The other backup, 30 year old Drew Macintire, has played all of 104 minutes in the NHL….divided into 61 minutes back in 2008, and 43 minutes back in 2012.

        • PrimeTime says:

          Was said by Carlyle last night post game that Bernier will do a full practice Friday and they will decide if he is ready for Saturday vs Habs. From a Leaf hater point of view, I hope they rush him and then done for the season. Every team is weaker without their starter but Leafs are more so as Bernier is the only reason they gave a shot at the playoffs.

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    • Mustang says:

      In the daily Leafs article by Bruce Arthur in today’s Montreal Gazette (yes I am fed up seeing stories about the Laffs just about every day in the Gazette) he states that “If leafs goalie Jonathan Bernier has been the team’s thoroughbread, James Reimer has been treated like it’s mule”. It sure seems like Carlyle has not been very nice to Reimer this year.

      • DipsyDoodler says:

        Name: GA: Sv%
        J Bernier: 2.6 .925
        J Reimer: 3.3 .910

        —–
        Moving. Forward.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Reimer will never be forgiven in Leaf land for Game 7 against the Bruins last year. ( even though the coward Phaneuf had more to do with that than anyone else)

        Kind of like Scott Norwood back in 1991 missing the Super Bowl game winning field goal for the Bills…Wide Right.

        • habs-fan-84 says:

          I live in Southern Ontario MR, and I can tell you very few blame Reimer for Game 7. Most blame a lack of leadership (think Phaneuf) more than anything.

          As I’m sure you know, Reimer played a huge roll in even forcing a game 7.

  2. adamkennelly says:

    I never get to watch 24CH until they play it on the NHL network – anyways – watched an episode or 2 last night and I think I figured out the problem with Eller.

    His Hair..his f-ng hair is the problem.

  3. HabinBurlington says:

    Morning everyone, well needless to say a big game tonight. Pretty much at that point where every game will cause us great emotion be it positive or negative.

    Hopeful that our newly crafted twin towers line led by the diminuitive Maestro can keep the momentum going. If our powerplay can have another good night it can sure help cover other flaws we may still have.

    I still have this weird feeling that MT is debating startng Budaj then coming back wth Price on Saturday…..

    So tonight its the Maestro versus the Wiz,

    Go Habs Go!

  4. CJ says:

    Good morning friends!

    Game day. It should be a very good game tonight. Both teams combined for a decent game in Montreal earlier this year, followed up by DD’s shoot out breakthrough in Ohio. If I recall correctly he hadn’t been doing much to that point and remember the team celebrating following the win. DD’s comeback has certainly been one of the feel good stories during the second half of the season.

    Hopefully the magic continues this evening. It would be a mistake to look ahead to Toronto on Saturday, despite salivating at the chance to burry the Leafs. Blue Jackets have some great players, and we will need to tighten up our defence, but this is a very winnable game.

    Just got into the office. Today is going to be a long day, but having the game to look forward to this evening always makes the day a little better. Let’s just hope we can still say the same thing in May.

    Have a great day everyone! Cheers, CJ

  5. Habfan10912 says:

    Another one of those “hockey plays” that have no use in the game.

    Heard some talking heads say that this is not suspendable and the hit wasnt intentional. Huh?

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/paul-ranger-leaves-leafs-game-on-stretcher-1.2579418

    • Just a Habs Fan says:

      Habsfan….do you really beleive they ought to take checking out of the game, Man you people who seem to want all hitting penalized bother me. The player turned back into the check…it wasn’t high..it wasn’t violent…it wasn’t even forceful. The player Kilorn was not even skating into Ranger…….I hate to think of hockey being played the way people that think your way seem to think it ought to be played. Not hitting hockey…why not watch lawn bowling that way you won’t have to watch these barbaric hits like this one. Not one TO player reacted the hot which confirms to me and most people that the hit was more of an accident than a purposeful nasty hit. Now go watch that lawn bowling and calm down some

    • Phil C says:

      The NHL does it to themselves with the language in their rules that allows the penalty to not be called if the player put himself in a vulnerable position. The IIHF rulebook has no such language.

      The NHL also puts itself in a difficult situation because they allow violent hits like this all the time which luckily don’t result in injury often so they become routine. A hit like this should always be boarding or charging even if Ranger does not turn back into him.

  6. Dunboyne Mike says:

    @HabinSurrey
    INCREDIBLE story from Jakarta! Wow! “I WISH!”

    And Psycho, thanks again for the Montreal photo archive. Amazing how deeply images can bite.

    (@Dipsy-Coriolanus-Doodler: that is hilarious!).

    Good morning and good day to all on HIO.

  7. CharlieH24 says:

    http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/ratings.php?db=201013&sit=5v5&type=individual&teamid=0&pos=skaters&minutes=200&disp=1&sort=HARTp&sortdir=DESC

    EOTP wrote an article about this specific stat where both Gally’s are in the top 3. Can someone put this in context, I am hammered

    • keviathan says:

      it means we should triple or quadruple their ice time!

    • ClutchNGrab says:

      Really short period for both. A season and half, playing mostly 3rd line minutes. Crosby who had concussion issues during that period 2010/2013 had 1400 minutes played 11 & 27 have about 500. Other “great” players in the top 10: Cory Conacher and Antoine Roussel.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Exactly. This chart may have been relevant if the minimum numbers of minutes was 2000. Otherwise, the stats on the two Habs (and a few others) are meaningless.

    • The_Truth says:

      When I see guys like Cory Conacher, Antoine Roussel and Sven Baertschi in the top 20, I would say very little to put in context.

    • SlovakHab says:

      It is not an EOTP article per se.
      One of the posters wrote it. It’s just an interesting stat, and we shouldn’t be making any big conclusions from that.
      We already know they are talented, but they play much lesser competition and less minutes than most players on that list.

      Also high: Cory Conacher, recently waived.
      Also on the list: Antoine Roussel. Not a very well known player

  8. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …the new 24 CH is fun to watch …the west coast trip, a Habs-oriented resto-bar in Redondo Beach (Los Angeles), a Team visit to Parros’ Violent Gentlemen warehouse (L.A.), Vanek’s joining the Team in Phoenix, a visit to Denmark meeting Lars Eller’s family and friends (including Mikkel Boedker)

  9. Habilis says:

    Fun fact: According to http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Eastern.html our playoff chances actually increased tonight by 0.3%. The Leafs dropped 10.3% (!) with their loss. They now sit at 65.6%.

    We have to win Saturday. It will utterly derail them. We already broke the Sens. It would be sublime to do it again.

    • ClutchNGrab says:

      I discovered the magic number thread on the canadiens.com fan forum a few years ago. It is pretty accurate.

      Here’s how the thread begins:
      [...]
      WHAT IS THE MAGIC NUMBER (MN)?

      In the simplest terms, the MN is the number of points in the NHL standings the Habs need to earn to be GUARANTEED a playoff position. When the MN hits 0, we’re officially in the playoffs!

      HOW DOES IT WORK?

      The question that the magic number answers is this: how many more points will the Habs need to earn in order to get into the playoffs in the absolute worst-case scenario?

      What is that worst case scenario? That would be if every other team in our conference were to win every game they play for the rest of the season. That’s why the starting number is 165. If every team in the East wins each of their games then they will all end up with 164 points. We would therefore need 165 in order to guarantee at least eighth place.

      Now obviously it’s impossible for every other team to win every game, if nothing else because the teams will be playing games against one another. As those teams lose games the magic number will start to fall. Likewise, each Canadiens win will also cause a drop – the more points we already have, the less we’ll need in order to reach that worst-case 8th place threshold.

      WHEN DOES THE NUMBER DROP?

      As mentioned above, the starting number is 165. Generally speaking:
      It is reduced by 2 points every time the Canadiens win a game in regulation.
      It is reduced by 1 point every time the Canadiens lose in overtime or in the shootout.
      It is reduced by 2 points every time the 8th place team* loses a game in regulation.
      It is reduced by 1 point every time the 8th place team* loses a game in OT or SO.
      [...]

      Right now it’s at 20.

  10. Timo says:

    I think Pat Roy needs to ask Therrien for some tips re defense. Avs allowed 11 goals in 2 games.

  11. Bugs says:

    Question: does the salary system still allow for paying decreasing amounts as the contract progresses?
    Ex: Could I offer The Acquisition 50 mil for 8 yrs, 8.75 first 4 years, then 5, 5, 3, 2?

    Left turn-missin’ L. B. Potter.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …would that be in carrots ?

    • B says:

      “Front-loaded contracts where the average of salary plus bonuses over the first half of the contract exceeds the cap hit, variability rules apply. Year-to-year variability is limited to 35 per cent of the first-year compensation. If a player earns $10M in Year 1, the contract cannot subsequently increase/decrease by more than $3.5M from year to year. Meanwhile, the lowest year’s compensation cannot be less than 50 per cent of the highest year’s compensation. If a player earns $10M in his highest year, he can never earn less than $5M any other year.”

      –Go Habs Go!–

      • Bugs says:

        Uh…
        So is that a “yes”?
        My edumacation was in da talking, not in da mathématique.
        Sounds like a yes… a yes in Japanese!!!

        Left turn-missin’ L. B. Potter.

        • johnnylarue says:

          Using the numbers you perhaps recklessly posted as an example, the answer is as follows:

          Yes, you can offer The Acquisition a front-loaded contract, but if Yonder Acquisition’s highest paying year is to be $8,750,000, then his cheapest-ass year can pay him/her/it no less than $4,375,000.

          • Bugs says:

            Ok, now the answer sounds like a “no”.
            Can’t do the last 2 years at 3 and 2.

            Right?

            Left turn-missin’ L. B. Potter.

          • johnnylarue says:

            “Correct-o!” as they say in certain Italian-speaking regions of Japan.

    • monmick says:

      I think so, but the maximum term is 7 years, unless it’s an extension to an existing contract…

      ~~~> Mathematically eliminated…

  12. Sportfan says:

    Fun fact Dale Weise and Brandon Prust played together for the Rangers in 2010-11, might explain why they are playing well on the fourth line together!

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  13. Sportfan says:

    So we are extending Weise right?

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  14. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …CNN just reporting Australia reporting finding possible remnants of missing Malaysian Boeing 777 airplane …stay tuned

  15. fastfreddy says:

    @HabsFanOhio, you are 100% correct on the Eller assessment, can’t give up on him, he’s got too much upside. Fast, strong on puck and skates and has size. Yes, give him good wingers to succeed, I’m in areement.

    CH = Les Glorieux!!!

  16. Marc10 says:

    The last three wins seem to have renewed our faith a bit. If we’re talking playoffs and potential match ups, I’m of two minds. I’d like our boys to play a monster of a team right away, a team that really would test their mettle, so we can grow in confidence and catch fire…

    As we still have quite a few holes in out lineup in terms of skill at some key positions, the only way we compete is if the guys play out of their skins like they did when we beat WAS and Pitt back to back with Jaro. So maybe a bad match up out of the way early is just the ticket. It could also be a very fast exit… That approach worked well in 93 of course.

    With that in mind, a bad (but necessary match up might be):

    – The Flyers (they always cause us problems)
    – The Leafs (they are built to cause us problems)
    – TB (they roll four lines of speed and have a huge goalie that could be a pain)
    – Boston: The best team in the East, but we play really well against them and I like the idea of Vanek and Patches out against a slowing Chara
    – Pittsburgh: Awesome firepower. We’ll need to be disciplined… but they have an Achilles Heel: Marc-Andre Fleury

    – NYR is pretty darn solid too. Well coached nowadays…
    – WAS has Jaro and Ovie and they are big

    Hmm… Out of that lot, I want Boston and Philly back to back. If we’re going to win, might as well beat the two teams I hate the most. Beating the Leafs would also be great just to piss off the guys at HNIC.

  17. JF says:

    @HabsFanOhio – Excellent post on Eller.

  18. JohnBellyful says:

    Math experts weigh in on significance to mankind should Leafs win the Cup.
    Fortunately, it’s only a scarenario.

  19. JohnBellyful says:

    “Fore!”
    “Oops. Fire!”

  20. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …only a few dayz ago We all were worrying about falling-out of the playoff scene …and, horror of horrors, being surpassed in the standings by da Weeds

    …We all gotta stop doin’ drugs :)

    • punkster says:

      Should have told me that before I went to those concerts in the 60s and 70s.

      Release the Subbang!!!

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …P.S.; thanks for Miles Punk …he was genius personified

        …in My years of 17 to almost 24 hour flights around this amazing World, I would curl-up on first-class/business-class lounge seats with a few bottles of wine generously supplied by the stewardess’s and My Walkman …and funk My way to oblivion

        …’the journey’ was better often times than the destination :)

        …My lifestyle has out of necessity changed significantly with Kidz, but good memories

    • frontenac1 says:

      Hey HIS! Unlike most of the Rookies here, I never have or ever will lose the Faith. Never say die! Saludos amigo!

    • Who is this we you are talking about? I find the under 40 crowd jump dabridge more than the older folk. Personally I’ve seen more bad than good this season that I just can’t let myself get excited anymore. Our standings do not reflect our talent. Our defense is bad, and our scoring is streaky, I hope Vanek can make it all better.

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  21. punkster says:

    HiS and Psycho…since old timers reminiscing…thought I’d chime in…this clip brought back a few memories for me.

    Saw them live in Toronto about 5 months after this, same band except Tony Williams on drums (not DeJonette)…and about 4 months before Bitches Brew turned everything downside up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sayOJKN6yuo&list=RDM1BIWKUtmg4

    Release the Subbang!!!

  22. jimmy shaker says:

    I’ll bet the farm that bernier will make a remarkable turnaround and play saturday night. Would love to go to taranna up by 5 points and leave up 7. If that happens and detroit and c-bus keep getting points, the leafs will be in major trouble. But let’s not look past c-bus tomorrow. We need an OT winner, so c-bus picks up a point and doesn’t waste their games in hand on T.O. What was wrong with Bishop tonight? He looked gassed or injured.

    Shaker out!

  23. B says:

    Dumont scores his team leading 16th on a penalty shot in the 3rd to clinch a 3-1 Dogs victory over the Heat.

    –Go Habs Go!–

    • Habs4LifeInTO says:

      Saw that. Also thought Tokarski should have had the star over Dell, no? My other thought on seeing the win…the Bournival effect. He is a bit of a leader and maybe he injected some pride into that line-up?

      Do the math……..7 x 6 = 42…Love our PK!
      24 cups and counting….

    • frontenac1 says:

      Love Dumont. He’s a smaller version of Prust. He knows no fear.

  24. jols says:

    Did the Leafs or TBay win tonight?

  25. habs001 says:

    Well a Habs vs Tampa matchup would be interesting…would not be easy…Habs should win it…but if they dont there would have to be a least 5-6 players changes for next season

  26. CJ says:

    A win against the Leafs on Saturday could really help to cripple the Buds chances of making the playoffs. Defence and goaltending are certainly struggling right now.

    • HabsPooch says:

      I’ll be at the game Saturday night. Gonna be great!

      • CJ says:

        I hope Montreal kicks them while their down. A loss Saturday, followed by a loss to the Devils on Sunday could drop them like a stone.

        Fingers crossed for you buddy! Have fun and enjoy! Cheers, CJ

        • johnnylarue says:

          I’ll keep my optimism guarded–I get nervous at the thought of cramming so many feel-good games into one week! ;)

        • HabsPooch says:

          Thx CJ we will enjoy. I went to the last game here when the leafs beat us so it’s payback time!

          • CJ says:

            You bet! Thank you for the exchange earlier regarding junior hockey players. Brought back some very fond childhood memories. Mom, Dad my brother and I eating at O’Tooles on Bank st and going to the old civic centre. Or, when we went to Cornwall to see the Royals and later the Ace’s my folks would treat us to Harvey’s.

          • HabsPooch says:

            Wonderful to hear that CJ. Always great to reminisce…

  27. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Not a MT fan but man am I glad we don’t have the tool from Toronto behind our bench. He’ll throw his mother under the bus if needed. Never heard this guy give opposing teams credit rather he whines & points his players out. A true definition of a Douchebag.

  28. frontenac1 says:

    2-0 Hawks with 4min in2nd

  29. Habitant in Surrey says:

    @Psycho29

    …Perry, funny You should recall ‘ I saw an advert from back in the late 60′s, Stevie Wonder performing at some Motel on Metropolitain Blvd for a 5 night engagement.

    …’a motel on Metropolitan Boulevard’ :)

    …Your recall made Me recall back in the early 90s, I was staying at the Borobudur Hotel in Jakarta, and after sweating in their basement disco about 2 AM in the morning I decide to take a walk in the sultry night air out into a bustling market of night stalls, roosters and local peoples with a girl I had met

    …through the crowd, approaching us, walked 2 black men arm in arm …both themselves looking very much out of their element in the heat and bustle of the environs (as much as I was in My white on white shirt with an expensive jacket on My shoulder)

    …they came up to Me to ask if I knew the way to the Borobudur Hotel, obviously lost

    …I walked them back to our hotel, and spent a couple hours with them back at the hotel in the coffee shop

    …I found they were brothers …one blind, his name was Stevland Morris …the other, sighted, his brother, whom helped ‘guide’ ‘Stevland’ through the crowd

    …Stevland turned out to be Stevie Wonder, in Indonesia as part of an Asia concert tour

    …I have always loved soul and rhytm and blues, as well as jazz innately …Stevie Wonder music was special to Me, but I never expected to bump into him in this part of the world, let alone under these circumstances

    …We had a great conversation, they were very appreciative of My help because they had been very disoriented in knowing how to return to the hotel …they asked if I wanted to attend their Jakarta concert, which I could not because I had a flight confirmed to Bali the next day

    …after Bali, I told them I would be flying to Bangkok for business …as it turned out that was where their next gig was following Jakarta

    …I thought that was the last I would hear from Stevie, but the next morning as I was packing for My Bali flight, a very attractive black girl knocks on My door …she explained she was Stevie’s hairdresser, and she had an envelope with 2 concert tickets for his Thailand gig

    …even more weirdly, Stevie and his entourage was also staying in the deluxe Bangkok hotel I was staying, the Dusit Thani, near the Patpong district

    …some wild recollections being back-stage at the concert, and the after concert party at the Dusit Thani into the early morning hours

    …sorry about this long recollection, but Your mention of the early-years for Stevie Wonder playing dingy motels on Metropolitan Boulevard was quite a contrast to his later career, …it’s not important where We begin, it’s only significant where We ultimately end :)

    • Psycho29 says:

      WOW…..That is so cool!! Must have been quite the thrill when you found out who he was. Awesome!!!

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …yes, absolutely the most unlikely environment to meet Stevie Wonder

        …Life is, indeed, a bowl of cherries :)

        • bigjames says:

          wow great stories. i was wandering around those hotels in the early 90s too… never met stevie though! and while i stayed at borobudur (the company i worked for was a shareholder of jakarta int’l hotels, owner of borobudur), we usually ended up in tanamour. i won’t discuss the kinds of people i met there in this forum lol!
          still in asia (hong kong) but when in jakarta i stay in more modern hotels now. have not been back to the borobudur in decades!
          Go Habs!

          • Habitant in Surrey says:

            …Hi James, Borobudur was a little out of the way of the offices I did My business, but I loved the grand old classic luxury of the place relative to the newer hotels

            …great atmosphere …and, I was ‘the invited guest’ of the hotel’s management, sales & marketing …so they would provide the presidential suites, which kinda strokes the old ego in a not too guiltily decadent way :)

    • Just a Habs Fan says:

      I stayed at that hotel in the late eighties…nice place indeed. Sounds like you had a great experience there. Thanks for sharing

  30. CJ says:

    Not trying to look too far ahead, but I wonder if Bournival doesn’t end up as our third line centre down the road. I haven’t given up on Eller, but Bournival could make him expendable. Additionally, Andrighetto makes the Captain expendable going forward. As a first year pro, in addition to his first year in North America, Andrighetto has really caught my attention.

    The great thing about Bournival is that he seems to fit on the wing or at centre and can play on almost any line. When the organization talks about character, Bournival, despite his age, is one of the first names that pop into my mind. Character and versatility. A great combination.

    • HabsPooch says:

      Bournival could be the logical choice to replace Eller. I really had high hopes that Gabriel Dumont would have been that player. Disappointing to see he’ll top out as a career AHL’er. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. ..

      • CJ says:

        Dumont was close, but, barring a rash of injuries, is just not going to break through. Kid has a ton of heart, but lacks some of the tools required to play at the next level in any kind of consistent capacity.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …I think Bergevin will keep both CJ, Eller’s size is an element that would be difficult to replace

      …also, I think Bergevin will do everything possible to retain Vanek …His ‘size and fearlessness, soft hands in front of the net, I think, is something WE have been missing for years, and will be critical to the Habs to retain

      • HabsPooch says:

        I’m not sure Eller’s hockey IQ is where it needs to be to be the player we’re hoping for? He just does so many things wrong out there that it puzzles me at times. Here’s hoping things change real fast soon.

        • kalevine says:

          I’m noticing the same things. He is making some of the dumbest plays out there. His regression this year is probably THE disappointment of the season

        • CJ says:

          I agree with all points re Eller. I just wonder how much his confidence has to do with it? He seems so unsure of himself right now. It’s not even something a single goal or good period can correct. He literally needs to wipe the slate clean. I’m reserving hope that the playoffs could afford this fresh start. If not, next season.

          • HabsFanOhio says:

            I have never understood all the anti-Eller rhetoric on here. He’s big and fast and plays with effort and heart. He’s a good possession player and getting better on draws. He’s added an impressive physical dimension to his game in the past year or so.

            Yes he makes some defensive mistakes still, but he is still gaining experience. Yes, he makes some glaring give-aways, but in his defense, look at the linemates he has had for most of the year. No one can succeed with Bourque on his line, which is why Bourque is in the pressbox now.

            I think if we had a better coach, who worked to instill confidence in Eller, he would be an excellent 3rd line center. To be fair though, the composition of our top 9 hasn’t favored MT in creating lines, and that has impacted Eller maybe most of all. As the top 9 has improved with the addition of Weise and Vanek, we should see Eller improve. Over the summer, MB can address roles and balance to improve the situation even more.

            I wouldn’t give up on this kid. Big, fast, good stickhandler, plays hard and hits. Give him the right linemates. He’s paying his dues and will get better. Perfect 3rd line center!

        • Just a Habs Fan says:

          You know it wasn’t so long ago that everyone was praising Eller on here and he was playing very well….he will be back sometime once they pair him up with the right people and over some time. I feel bad for him…..so do many who post on here. I imagine he is feeling a bit let down himself….however it’s up to the player to make his road on the team. He does have the ability and the hockey sense…he has shown it…just remember this year early.

      • CJ says:

        Bournival is under contract for next season before becoming an RFA in two years time. Eller is an RFA this offseason. Long way of saying he (Bergevin) is in no rush to make a final determination.

        I have regarded this as a transition year. There are very likely to be a number of changes this offseason regardless of whether we miss the playoffs or go to the conference finals.

        I will wait before making a decision on Vanek. Obviously, if the price is right I’d love to have him, but I worry that it could take a contract offering both term and dollar value. Conversation to be continued in the weeks and months ahead……

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Technical point, but Sven Andrighetto played two seasons already in North America, playing LHJMQ in Rouyn-Noranda.

      http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=143315

      http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/sven-andrighetto/

  31. B says:

    Bournival picks up an assist on Thomas’ 9th. 2-1 Dogs late in the 2nd.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  32. punkster says:

    Just a quick observation…those 3 Stamkos goals tonight looked eerily familiar…like the Vanek 3 last night.

    Release the Subbang!!!

    • The_Truth says:

      The greatest trait of a goal scorer besides their shot is knowing how to be at the right place at the right time. All scoreres have it and even though it seems simple, few have that natural talent. Stamkos and Vanek are two that do.

  33. Prop says:

    Hawks vs Blues, heckuva game going on.

    ____________________
    DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

  34. B says:

    3 goals for Stamkos already, he’s getting warmed up again.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  35. B says:

    Tokarski in nets for the Dogs. 1-1 after 1. Dogs outshooting the Heat 16-6. Two fights, McIver vs Lyon and 5’10” Dumont vs 6’2″ Corbin Knight (I haven’t seen it but expect Dumont came out on top of that one). Oh yea, Blunden scored the goal, his 15th to tie him with Dumont for the team lead.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  36. Prop says:

    Did…did I hear McGuire say big trees in the back end, almost impossible to penetrate???

    ____________________
    DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

  37. Marc10 says:

    One other good point about the Vanek deal is that it gives Patches a great example of a big guy who can score in close and in the dirty areas. Vanek put on a clinic in that respect against Colorado.

    More big match ups coming up. I trust the boys will put a few more teams to the sword.

  38. HabFan in Edmonton says:

    Reimer has let in 3 goals on 8 shots. I wonder if Carlyle thinks he is playing “just OK”. Lots of pressure on Reimer tonight.

    • CJ says:

      IMO, Reimer was not good enough last night. I know in the uber conservative age of professional sports, where we can go weeks without a good sound bite, coaches don’t usually call out individual players, but Reimer needs to buck up. He needs to step up now, or his future in Toronto will be in doubt. His performance thus far has been below average.

      Sure, the defence has been weak, but that hasn’t impacted Bernier the way it’s impacted Reimer.

      • HabFan in Edmonton says:

        I agree, Carlyle wouldn’t have called him out if played well enough for the Leafs to win. I didn’t see the game. If the Leafs lose tonight it will make for a very interesting game on Saturday.

        • CJ says:

          He is playing poorly again tonight. I just hope it continues on Saturday night. A few more loses and the Leafs will find themselves on the outside looking in. Suits me just fine.

  39. Habilis says:

    Leafs and Bolts tied at 2 in the first period. Been some debate on here as to who to cheer for but I think we can all agree that a 3 point game is the worst possible outcome, whoever wins it. I just hope one of them pulls away.

    Side note: Holy crow, neither of these teams can play D to save their lives.

    Edit: 3-2 Bolts now. Stamkos. Go Lightning.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      And that’s despite sheltering Phaneuf from Olympic duty, reserving him to guard the citadel in the lead-up to the playoffs….

    • jlgib1019 says:

      TB would be a good playoff match as they are soft and would leave us none the worse for wear going into round 2. I don’t understand why the Leafs backed off their”truculence” approach. They seemed to have a good thing going last year

      jr

  40. Psycho29 says:

    Slow Hockey night so here’s some great old pictures of Montreal from 50 years ago (1964) and 100 years ago (1914).

    http://www.lactualite.com/blogues/le-fouineur/montreal-il-y-a-50-ans/

    Technically ok to post because there is a picture of the old Forum ;-)

    • frontenac1 says:

      Slow hockey night? Psycho! Laffs vs Bolts and Hawks vs Blues. Check it out!

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      sigh…
      just gutted my expat heart.
      Those are great.

      • frontenac1 says:

        Hey Mike! Did a great walkabout on St. Paddy’s Day in Kingston. Mrs. Front made me strip nekkid outside when I got home. Yeah, I was a mess, but Damn good day.Slainte amigo!

    • Ian Cobb says:

      St Louis and Chicago tonight, should be a bute!

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …thanks so much Perry, You’re making Me very nostalgic and homesick

      …on another thread We discussed each others circumstances of how We are now Habs Fans,You contributed a micro-fiche of old Gazette/Star pages from back in the day, including the photo of Your Dad presenting a curling trophy on behalf of Molson Brewery, for which He was employed

      …it was a wonderful transportation back in time …from the classifieds when there were unlimited opportunities of jobs and the world in Montreal was Our oyster

      …thank You sincerely for that fellow Hab Fan :)

      • Psycho29 says:

        You’re welcome Chris, thanks for the kind words! I look at those pictures and I miss that city also. And I still live here!!!

        Yes those old Gazettes are amazing! I saw an advert from back in the late 60’s, Stevie Wonder performing at some Motel on Metropolitain Blvd for a 5 night engagement. Imagine!!

  41. Ian Cobb says:

    Patrick Roy gets some encouragement from Carey Price.
    WATCH -> http://goha.bs/Nuzts0

    Watch right to the end, 5min.

  42. CJ says:

    Good evening folks. Haven’t had a chance to spend much time sifting through the forum today, but see that Greg Carey has signed in Phoenix. I wonder if the Canadiens are looking at other NCAA free agents, or if they may go the CHL route?

    We also need to decide on Vail, Thrower and Bennett this summer. I’m certain they will pass on Mike Cinchy, but think that Vail, Thrower and Bennett will receive contracts.

    I enjoy following the prospects so this is always a particularly interesting time of year leading up to the draft.

    My primary focus remains on the Canadiens of course. It’s a strange feeling I get watching our team at times. Personally, I feel like we are missing a number 1 centre, and a solid second line winger with size. On defence I think we need a puck mover and second wave PP specialist (Beaulieu) and shutdown defender (Gorges).

    Despite what I believe to be the missing ingredients, we are knocking on the door with only the Bruins and Penguins holding sway in the wide open East. So, how does one reconcile this feeling? I mean, we can’t possibly win with this current lineup, can we? Can our goaltending, special teams and depth through four lines mask our deficiencies on defence? Can we win in a head to head match up without a big first line centre? Can Bourque or Briere step up at the key moment and provide further balance on our top lines?

    I really don’t know, but I’m excited to find out. Cheers, CJ

  43. JF says:

    Marc Bergevin has received a lot of criticism for some of his moves (Parros, Brière instead of Jagr or a cheaper player like Clarke MacArthur or Mason Raymond), but one thing he’s done a great job of is picking up inexpensive depth players. Mike Weaver cost us only a fifth round pick (which we’ll recoup in the Vanek deal), and he’s starting to fit in nicely in Gorges’s absence. Devan Dubnyk was virtually free and provides goaltending depth in Hamilton as well as another option here, should we need it. There’s also Davis Drewiske, signed for peanuts and almost unused because of his injury, but still available in case we need him.

    Then there’s the fourth line, which seems to have been completely revitalized by the acquisition of Dale Weise. That trade is looking like a stroke of genius right now – even though on paper it’s a loss. A skilled offensive defenceman for a fourth-liner with wheels and a nose for the net. But Diaz had been struggling, and in any case had not looked as good since his concussion early last year. He had also become a bit redundant with the way Beaulieu was playing before the Olympic break.

    In the Gainey and Gauthier days, the fourth line was never anything more than a collection of spare parts – the extra defenceman, whichever forward was in the coach’s doghouse, and any other extra body. We now have great depth on the fourth line; you could say we have a plethora of fourth-liners. Last night’s fourth line was great, but we also have Parros when we need a big, intimidating presence; and Bournival and White, both fast and gritty, played well with Weise before the Olympics; there’s also René Bourque, for whom there’s currently no room on any other line.

    One of the shortcomings of both Gainey and Gauthier was a failure to appreciate the importance of the fourth line. Gauthier in particular was guilty of penny-pinching by not re-signing Dominic Moore after giving up a second-rounder for him because Jeff Halpern was cheaper, then letting Halpern go in favour of the untried Andreas Engqivst. That ended up being a fiasco and one of the reasons for our disastrous season. Both Gainey and Gauthier seemed to think that fourth-liners were interchangeable – the cheaper the better. Fortunately, Bergevin knows better, and knows also the value of depth and insurance.

    • scamorza says:

      Agree many complained about the vanek trade but essentially having enough decent prospects in the pipeline meant we could take a chance/entertain the risk. I liked the weaver trade from the beginning a role player nothing special but a great depth addition and Weise as you said a nice compliment to the 4th line- a typical energy line but as we saw last night (well unfortunately some of us just followed Boone’s blog and everyone’s comments) one that score valuable goals. You need all 4 lines going for the playoffs and once in and you need that depth as the inevitable injuries happens good to see that we have bournival and yes even Bourque waiting in the wings and nothing like competition to drive everyone to play better

      come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

    • Psycho29 says:

      EXCELLENT post Jane!

    • The_Truth says:

      Good points. I like Weise’s game. he has character and Grit, but also some talent for a 4th liner.

      The main thing is that MB delivered what this team needed most. A big 1st line winger who can score. As others mentioned, that created a trickle down effect, putting Gally on the 2nd line, Gio on the 3rd, and Prust on the 4th. More in line where those players belong as higher end for their respective roles. He didn’t overpay either.

      This creates a lot more balance and other teams can’t just focus on the DD line, which now is a legit 1st line threat. Man, I hope there is a way Vanek can be resigned. In any case, the lineup looks like a solid playoff team right now, especially with Gorges coming back.

      If Eller and Chucky could ever get going, then you never know.

      • jlgib1019 says:

        I’ve been begging for a real 4th line for years. Now MT has to stick with it and not move Moen or Prust into top 9,and also hope Prust stays healthy,as White isn’t close to the player he is.Not a fan of Weaver who became a healthy scratch in Fla. He’ll be exposed vs. Boston,Pitt Ott, Tor and other bigger,more aggressive teams.

        jr

    • Marc10 says:

      Bergie mentioned that when he came on his priority was to fill the ranks. Coming from Chicago which was stocked with a full pipeline of prospects he could see how bare the cupboard was.

      I’d expect that process to take years (a full generation of prospects really), but you have to admit he’s done a pretty good job at patching some holes. (I do wish he had gone for Jagr instead of Danny B and yes, Macarthur would have helped out a lot… Hopefully they’ve learned from that too.)

    • CJ says:

      Fourth line is a key piece of the puzzle. Not only do we have a very good fourth line, but now we have depth with White and Bournival in reserve.

      Last night was a great example of an effective fourth line. Therien deserves credit for awarding this group with ice time. Using the Leafs as a comparative, they essentially roll three lines. During a seven game series this can have a significant advantage.

      • jlgib1019 says:

        Last year the Leafs beat up on the B’s during the regular season and playoffs. Their 4th line was good for that matchup only.

        jr

        • CJ says:

          Good point. It was. Amazing how much things change in one year though. IMO, Boston would take out Toronto in five games, six maximum if they were to meet in the playoffs this season. Bernier might be able to steal one or two, but failing that a sweep would be entirely possible.

  44. rhino514 says:

    I´d like to see Bourque get a couple of more chances to show what he can do before the playoffs. Bournival as well.
    I realize the lineup is stacked right now and playing well, but if Briere is not lighting it up, I´d rather have some extra size going into the playoffs. I´m also not a Moen fan, but I realize Therrien loves him as a defensive specialist.
    And we can rejoice that for two glorious games in a row this year Ryan White was great to watch.

    • jlgib1019 says:

      Bourque had enough chances. He makes Kostityins look like Gallagher. Bournival needs to get ready for next year,and he won’t be in the playoff rotation . It’s amazing how White lost all of his aggressiveness.I suspect he will be gone after this year

      jr

  45. marvin20 says:

    This is my favorite hockey show by far. 1000 times better than Coaches Corner. I can’t believe nobody has signed Nilan to a TV deal, he knows what he is talking about and is very entertaining.

  46. Danno says:

    Dale Weise was the grease that put the fourth line’s gears in motion

    ________________________________________

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
    Updates, highlights & great discussions on all things Habs

  47. AliHaba says:

    Thanks again to Stu, Chris, and Pat. I look forward to this every week and this week was especially gratifying with the Habs playing so well. Brandon Prust was a revelation last night. Just hope he can stay healthy.

    What I’d like to see is PJ and Knuckles squaring off on HNIC. Nilan could take him physically and mentally. As the “antiquated” saying goes “in a battle of wits PJ would be left defenseless”.

  48. Habcouver says:

    Great HIO show. Always enjoyable with having on Knuckles, who aside from his “antiquated” himself, is a credit to his spot on TSN 690.

    We Are (Not) All Canucks.
    Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

  49. Alex says:

    I would not be surprised to see Knuckles on TV in the near future, he is stellar one these.

  50. habstrinifan says:

    o not know if this has been ‘shared’ here already.

    Tim Bozon is out of the induced coma and IS SHOWING signs of recovery.

    Continued progress to Tim!

    [Click to Edit | Request Deletion]

  51. DipsyDoodler says:

    I wonder if Magnus Nygren is the defender we will call up.

    As far as I can tell his team Farjestad is leading 2-0 in the first round of the playoffs, with him in the starring role.

    He seems to be head and shoulders the best defenceman in the Swedish Elite League right now.

    He is two years older than Beaulieu and a powerplay specialist.

    —–
    Moving. Forward.

    • Alex says:

      He started off the year in Hamilton but returned to Sweden, I recall an interview in Sweden that was translated and he was ripping on the team in Hamilton. I hope it doesn’t affect him playing for us in the future, I would have liked to have seen him called up earlier in the season while he was still with Hamilton. I’m not sure how it works, but are we allowed to bring him back over to North America again this season?

  52. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Good evening, HiB, Jim, Matty. Saw your “crow” (and poutine – mmmm) replies threads ago (I had posted and run, stuff in Dublin).

    Did I miss any?! Would it invite bad karma to go back to yesterday afternoon, locate the predictions, name-n-shame?!!!

  53. Caesar says:

    With the Bulldogs looking like their season is done. Will we be bringing up anyone ?I think there is a max of call ups so if anyone knows the max allowed please post. But who would you call up? Can you bring them in just to keep them in the atmosphere

    is this the list of almost ready to ready now players ?

    Beaulieu Pateryn Andrighetto Leblanc Drewiske Bournival Dubnyk Tokarski Blunden Thomas

  54. habs001 says:

    Lot of the same posters who were so negative about DD totally overated the talent levels of Diaz,Weber,Pouliot,SK74 and Eller…

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Has their been a dumber argument than “Therrien’s main objective was to get DD points at the expense of winning games, on account of the fact that he’s a francophone”. As I recall the idea was that this would help Molson sell beer or something.

      Yet it was made over and over on H I/O. First as if Therrien or any coach could turn a slumping player into a point per game scorer just by juggling the lines.

      —–
      Moving. Forward.

    • jlgib1019 says:

      I was one who way overrated SK74 and to a lesser degree Pouliot in his first 20-30 games

      jr

  55. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Jo estete kivanok, Ozmodiar.

    LOVE your midgets4moar website! Don’t suppose you’d share the method with me?! If I could embed an “Exam Answers 2014-2016″ link in a powerpoint for my students!…. I am DROOLING!

  56. JF says:

    I can’t decide whether it’s better for the Leafs to beat the Lightning tonight to keep Tampa below us, or for Tampa to win and widen the gap between us and the Leafs, thus improving our chances of finishing, if not second, then third in the division.

    Of our games this week, the Columbus and Toronto games are key. We need to stay ahead of the Leafs, but, in the event we don’t, we don’t want to be battling Columbus for a wild card berth. The game against the Bruins is less important, although it’s always satisfying to beat them.

    • jimmy shaker says:

      Well this is how I C IT….I want taranna to lose and lose badly and basically not qualify for the dance. So t-bay is my choice. The more taranna loses and the more detroit and c-bus win (except on thursday, we have to get at least one point vs them, also detroit and columbus have two games in hand on the leafs which is a good thing too.) the better it is for taranna to be out of the second season. That’s my take.

      shaker out

    • johnnylarue says:

      A Leafs loss ranks just slightly behind a Habs win on my personal happiness meter. (Their Game 7 collapse last year was very much a euphoric event for me.)

      So I’d much rather see the Leafs lose and lose often than try to think strategically about playoff rankings at this point, especially given how much they could change over the next three weeks.

      • scamorza says:

        And not sure if this has been raised today but seeing how Carlyle the %^*ck has dumped on Reimer well it couldn’t get sweeter Reimer reacted to his comments and then his agent in a uhm bad way and Bernier’s groin issues there is concern in leaf land … like you said hard to choose between a leafs loss and a habs win, (although the latter wins out). yes I was driving from London ON to TO cursing that they were making it to the next round and got home and switched on the TV and saw the collapse definitely something to raise a glass to

        come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

    • piper says:

      as long as its not a 3 pointer i don’t care who wins

    • D Man says:

      Tough one for sure. But still, Lets Go Lightning.

      You can’t be both a Habs and a Leafs fan

    • Habitoba says:

      As much as I hate Toronto, I love watching the Habs beat them more than Tampa. Ahhhh, rivalries

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Consider that if the Leafs lose they will no longer have their playoff destiny in their hands. Both Columbus and Detroit will have enough games in hands to have a chance of passing them.

      —–
      Moving. Forward.

  57. Ozmodiar says:

    You know, I was thinking …

    … considering Galchenyuk’s “natural” position is center, he hasn’t played a whole lot at center.

    He’s playing on the wing now.
    He played on the wing for Sarnia after he was drafted – with Boucher and Sarault.
    He was a winger before going to the OHL.

    As far as I can tell, he had that one year, pre-injury, where he played center for the Sting. Other than that – winger.

    Not saying that he doesn’t have the skill-set to play center, just that he doesn’t have a whole lot of experience at his “natural” position.

  58. Cal says:

    I must say that antic-uated Nilan is much more fun than antiquated Knuckles. Great show, gents, and please continue the great Habs talk. Loads of fun!
    Hey Stu, ask Nilan about the time he scored with about 5 seconds left in the 2nd period at the Forum against Brian Hayward of the Jets with a slapper from the blue line. If I remember aright, Knuckles leapt about 3 feet in the air. :)

  59. Habitoba says:

    I think one of the reasons Jagr wasn’t signed in Montreal to be paired up with Plekanec is because Pleks is cursed with being the best forward on the team at defending his own zone. Not just on the team but among the best two-way players in the league. We could have had Jagr and Pleks light it up as a strictly first line weapon but then who picks up the slack on the defensive side on things? DD is being used predominantly in offensive situations because he sucks more at the defense side of things than Pleks. There’s no denying Pleks has the tools to be a great threat offensively as the Olympics demonstrated year after year with Jagr. Thomas obviously knows this and has a case to voice it but he knows that the current setup is what benefits the team the best. I’m sure Gainey had an impact on him a little.

    If there’s an “unsung hero” award for the Habs, it’s him and, in my opinion, frontrunner for the captaincy.

    edit: Some obvious speculations has been made but this is the way I see it.

  60. HabsPooch says:

    Nice to see the Habs power play work it down low for a change. Almost had no choice with a big target such as Vanek in front. They became very predictable loading up for PK’s shots.

  61. Habfan10912 says:

    A look at the Hab’s prospects.

    http://www.allaboutthehabs.ca/prospect-update-mar-10-16/

    Edit: Speaking of Vail he was named the OHL’s most underrated player by the coaches.

    • HabsPooch says:

      I’ve got my eyes on him. I think he’s gonna be a good one for us. Maybe a good two way player that can play on our third line in the future…

      • jimmy shaker says:

        Seen him play many nights here in Windsor……he looks like a steal for a 4th rounder. He’s a crowd favourite here. Has all the tools. He should only continue to get better!

        shaker out

  62. habs-fan-84 says:

    Must say, these podcasts have got much better.

  63. jimmy shaker says:

    Vanek gives the habs that unique scoring threat…..much better than patch, although patch has the legs, he really needs DD to get him the puck and get into open spaces for most of his goals, whereas vanek can create for himself, is lethal in close, has I think a quicker release than patch, and is deadly tipping pucks. His scoring touch is top notch. He has that ability to score that big goal more so than patch is all I’m saying. Not putting patch down at all…..patch’s work ethic and skating has been a big part of that line now, since sometimes vanek gets caught floating or flat footed, patch has used his skating to help out. I’m really impressed with him in that area as well.

    Shaker out!

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Saw the same things Jimmy. It looks like we now have a #1 line which other teams MUST pay attention to.

      • jimmy shaker says:

        Yes, very nice to see these guys out there, although they kind of sucked defensively on the last colorado goal, but I will give them a break because they were gassed on that shift.

        Shaker out!

    • Caesar says:

      the 2 really compliment each other. Patches had a lightning quick 1 timer in front of the net that mised by a few feet and Jiggy didn’t even move, so Im not sure about quicker release, but Vanek has great accuracy and a lightning fast release. And that tip in was Amazing.

      I know it’s one game, but wow is this what it feels like to have a bonafied #1 line? Been so long I can’t remeber anymore.

  64. Hobie Hansen says:

    A funny exchange I saw on Twitter….

    **********

    Conor McKenna ‏@mckennaconor 20m

    I’m sure once Vanek gets a taste of a Quebec election campaign and someone explains to him what the charter is, he’ll sign here immediately.

    Reply

    Rod Francis ‏@InRodWeTrustMTL 4m

    @mckennaconor Don’t forget the 49.85% tax rate on income greater than 135K

  65. Danno says:

    On Prust: “He’s an intelligent fighter” – Chris Nilan.

    ________________________________________

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
    Updates, highlights & great discussions on all things Habs

  66. Kooch7800 says:

    If the habs really are looking to win in the next few years why not take a run at Stastny in the offseason and move out Eller and Bourque. Stastny is a UFA and would have more offense

    • Habfan10912 says:

      He’d fit nicely. I think Bourque may be done, Kooch. In the video above, knuckle alludes to the concussion issues as a possible cause of his lack of physicality. Whatever it is he doesn’t help the team in a top 6 role.

      As for Eller, he has a couple shifts every game that make me scream and then on the very next shift he looks like he’s a very good player. I’m having a hard time figuring out what type of player he is or is going to be. I wonder if part of his issue is he’s having that same problem?

      • Kooch7800 says:

        Bourque won’t be a hab after this season I would imagine. He will either be traded for a really low pick or bought out. When he skates he can fly but his confidence is shot and I do agree the concussions have taken a big toll on him.

        Eller still has potential but Stastney is ready for prime time and is now what we hope Eller will become down the road. Carey isn’t getting any younger

    • HabsPooch says:

      Too many centres…Stastny, Plekanec, Galchenyuk, Desharnais, White.

      • Kooch7800 says:

        Chucky is nowhere near ready for a centre role in my opinion. He needs to show he can play better in his own end first

      • HabsPooch says:

        This is for next year and they better get him playing centre…it’s his drafted position.

        • Loop_Garoo says:

          Many people play centre at the lower levels and then move to the wings in the pros. Just because he was drafted there, does not mean he will play there. I think he will eventually, but it may be a couple more years.

  67. habs-fan-84 says:

    Good watching for the end of the work day :)

  68. 24 Cups says:

    Re: DD stats posted below.

    He’s small but along with Gallagher I have no trouble with the team having two guys 5’9″ and under. Once the other undersized players leave through attrition, I would like to see management keep it at just two unless some quality player emerges from the system.

    I marvel at how DD can pass the puck. It’s an elite level skill in my eyes.

    I thin the team and Hab fans should accept the special rapport he has with MaxPac and maintain the combo as long as they continue to generate offense. Right now, Vanek and his net presence is the perfect compliment to these two.

    I didn’t look up DD’s face-off stats but I believe he is decent. Much like Peks, DD can have a string of good nights in the circle and then blow a tire.

    In terms of defensive play, he is a work in progress. If he can be in the 60-70% range then I’ll be happy.

    We all know the story about how he made it to the NHL against all odds. I would also think the hell that he went through during the first 20 games of the season this year can only add to his level of perseverance and character.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      His weakness is his inability to create space. With Vanek and Max as linemates they create that space for him. He’s a tremendously gifted offensive player. Just like Max told us.

    • shiram says:

      Plekanec at 48.7%
      DD is actually at 51.2% on faceoffs.
      Eller at 53%
      White at 50.8%
      Brière 46.5%
      Prust at 52% this one surprised me

      I also put them in order, Plek took the most

    • JF says:

      Steve – I think DD is an absolute wizard with the puck. Some of his passes are unreal and he has great vision. He has improved every part of his game since he came into the League; he’s faster, his faceoff numbers are better, and despite being small, he protects the puck well. Mattyleg on the other thread was saying something I’ve been saying for weeks – that contrary to received opinion on HIO, Desharnais is a legitimate top centre in the NHL. Remember at the beginning of the season, people were saying he’s a career minor-leaguer who has no place on our team or in the NHL?

    • piper says:

      I just hope he can continue his good play in the playoff. The opposition will be focusing in his line and they will be leaning on him more as the refs put the whistles away.

  69. 24 Cups says:

    Not sure if this Tim Bozon update has been posted.

    http://thereuschblog.com/?p=30789

  70. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Is anybody else but me worried about Galchenyuk? I mean, should we be seeing something out of this kid yet? I watched Mackinnon last night and was amazed. For all the hype when we got Galchenyuk you would think he would be able to play like Mackinnon. I know, Mackinnon gets way more ice time but does Galchenyuk warrant more ice time as of now? Myself, I do not believe so. It just seems like way more young guys have made an impact and Galchenyuk has yet do so. Some of these are Huburdeau, Mackinnon, Barkov, Hertl, Palat, Jones, Gallagher, Nichuskin, and Krug all seem to be better players right now (key word right now). Is it MT’s Fault? Or did everyone from that draft not turn out?

    • habcertain says:

      if he isn’t given the opportunity, it is hard to assess, but yes it looks troublesome at this point, he needs to play his natural position, I think a big issue is when you get inside these kid’s heads, it can go horribly wrong. we have seen it with other players, and not just kids, on this team.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Hi Ukrainian! I just rewatched the game and I paid particular attention to Galchenyuk. He has out of this world skills as good as any player out there last night. There were several shifts where he made plays that may have gone unnoticed because they yielded no results but if you get a chance watch the game again.

      I think the coaching staff has been conservative in his development. In fact I’ve been critical of Therrien because of it. Last night did nothing to deter me from thinking that Galchenyuk will be a star in this league.

      As an aside, I know Vanek scored 3 goals but the 1st star of that game last night was Prust. He was just terrific. His best game by far this season.

      CHeers bud.

      • UKRAINIANhab says:

        CHeers 10912!, being a huge pleks fan I should have noticed all of the plays that go unnoticed. My concern is the Therrien factor, it seems like he does not seem to trust him. My view on it is that he needs SOME ice time but not top line minutes. I mean, what is the worst that can happen you get scored on because a bad turnover or something. If thats the case, Galchenyuk will learn from it.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      If you were hoping for him to play like MacKinnon, then you should be worried, because it isn’t going to happen. ;)

    • HabsPooch says:

      Galchenyuk doesn’t have the ceiling MacKinnon does…he’ll still be a great player though.

    • piper says:

      No worries here about the kid. Just let him loose.
      He should be centreing the top line IMO.

  71. B says:

    Among NHL centers, Desharnais currently ranks:
    54th in TOI
    68th in TOI/G
    51st in PPG
    38th in points
    25th in assists
    63rd in goals

    44th in PP TOI
    57th in PP TOI/G
    25th in PP points

    44th in ES TOI
    58th in ES TOI/G
    46th in ES points

    53rd in +/-
    28th in shooting%
    172nd in hits

    I believe his $3.5M cap hit ranks 52nd among NHL centers (tied with Matt Cullen & Matt Stajan).

    –Go Habs Go!–

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Plex is 10th in Time on Ice.

    • Phil C says:

      Interpretation of those stats should be tempered by the fact that he is playing much better than those numbers indicate. After not scoring for the first month and a half, he is been scoring at a consistent rate. Giroux is similar. He is one of the most dangerous players in the league right now, but you would not think that looking at his total stats.

      (And no, I’m not comparing DD to Giroux except that their season stats are skewed by very bad slumps to start the season.)

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Whatever the stats, he’s been playing great for the last while, and I bet Vanek is pretty happy to be playing with him too.

      I hope he’s buying him dinner after the way he gave him that first goal last night.

      Go Habs Go!!

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    • Habfan10912 says:

      Interesting stats, B. On a line with Vanek and Max, he’ll thrive. They’ll create the open ice he needs.

    • Loop_Garoo says:

      When DD is playing like he has been the last while, his contract is a good one, a really good one. The guy is one smart player, and he seems to really care, which is a big plus in my books.

  72. mdp2011 says:

    Never mind.

  73. B says:

    Enough with Roy already.

    –Go Habs Go!–

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Don’t let the virtual door hit you on the way out.

      Go Habs Go!!

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  74. Habilis says:

    We’re an adventure at times, no question. But to me, we’re much less so when P.K. and Markov are on, and almost never when they are on together. At least we have one pair that can play with anyone in the league.

  75. jlgib1019 says:

    Markov still has great offensive skills,but is very slow getting back,especially when he misses a pinch. That’s why he makes a good pairing with PK

    jr

  76. HabFan in Edmonton says:

    I respectfully disagree. If I had a choice between the Bruins or Leafs in the 1st round, I would rather play the Leafs. I would love to see the Leafs end up 9th but if they ended up 8th and played the Bruins in the 1st round that would be OK.

  77. frontenac1 says:

    I would love Habs to go with Bruins or Leafs in playoffs. Flyers scare me.

  78. Mark C says:

    Wut?

    What players are physical?

  79. UnkleGary says:

    I don’t think a team with suspect defence and goaltending is build for the playoffs. At the same time, I would rather play the Bruins than the Leafs. We tend to play very good hockey against the Bruins, and Rask has poor numbers against the Habs. Philly is the last team I would want to face.

    CH-eers!

  80. GrosBill says:

    Would definitely rather meet Toronto. They may have the worst defense of all playoff bound eastern teams and unproven goaltending. I am still not convinced they are a lock to make it.

    Compare that to the Bruins. GF-GA difference is huge. Production from 4 lines, not one. Defense that has been there before. Also, hate to say it, but Rask is a good goalie and certainly better than the duo in Tor IMO.

    Of course, I always hope to meet the Bruins regardless.

  81. jlgib1019 says:

    Leafs aren’t as physical as last year. no Fraser and they dress only one of Orr or McLaren. We outphysicalled and beat them (and B’s) when Parros and Murray were in

    jr

  82. Habilis says:

    I know it. I was just pointing out that we’re in better shape than the 2 teams playing right now.

    For the record, I do think that Tinordi and Beaulieu will both be quality top 4 guys at some point.

  83. jlgib1019 says:

    I have always felt we could use beauliea and Tinordi in lineup at the same time.Now it may be getting too latein year for that .Hopefully Emelin can pick it up,and a move to his left side would help

    jr

  84. HabsFanOhio says:

    yes that is why we NEED Beaulieu

  85. HabFan in Edmonton says:

    The Flyers have a phenomenal record if you take away their first 10-15 games of the year. They are certainly playing well. Giroux is playing with a chip on his shoulder after the Olympic snub. I agree, they are dangerous. Still not sold on Mason.

  86. CJ says:

    Not to worry Front. We wouldn’t match up with Philly before the conference final. The new playoff format drives divisional match ups.

  87. frontenac1 says:

    And Hartnell! Damn those guys got their sh#t together! And what about those Rangers? Beware the Dark Horse amigo.

  88. HabFan in Edmonton says:

    I can’t stand Hartnell but would take him on my team any day of the week.

  89. frontenac1 says:

    Thanks for that CJ. Those Damn dark horses always scare me.

  90. I don’t see a suspension. It as unfortunate for sure but Ranger turned into the play making it a bad hit, had he continued in motion he would have taken the hit safely, but like most bad hits, the player at the last second before contact is made turned. Happens all the time and the only way for it to not happen is to remove hitting behind the goal line. I’m no Neanderthal, I’m a youth hockey coach who teaches kids how to take contact proper so that the player is safe at all angles. Hope for the best for Ranger for sure.

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  91. ffenliv says:

    To play devil’s advocate here, hockey is a fast, physical game, and there’s really no way to eliminate all the dangerous hits.

    A hit can became dangerous without any intent on the part of the guy delivering the hit.

    In this case, Ranger turned back a bit at the last moment. I feel like Killorn probably had time to hold up a little bit, but it was probably too late for him to avoid hitting him altogether.

    If Killorn is able to bail on the play completely, he runs the risk of being seen as ‘soft’, since people would only see that he bailed, and no one could have known what would happen if he’d hit him.

    tdlr; sometimes bad hits will happen without players being dirty, or even careless.

  92. The Jackal says:

    You know what old friend, we are in agreement for once.

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  93. ffenliv says:

    Ranger wasn’t in a vulnerable position until he turned back into it. Before that, they’re likely going to hit shoulder to shoulder. I don’t know what you expect Killorn to do about that.

  94. frontenac1 says:

    Hey Shane. Hope Paul is OK. My good buddy”s son pl)ed with him in Oshawa.

  95. HabsFanOhio says:

    Absolutely! Been saying that for weeks! PK has the speed to cover and that makes Markov better.

  96. Interesting! FYI I miss you guys!!!!!

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  97. Phil C says:

    Read the rules sometime. It has always been illegal to check violently into the boards. The NHL just stopped calling it and as such have been poor custodians of the sport.


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