HI/O Show: Setting the stage for Habs vs. Bruins

The Canadiens and Boston Bruins will square off for the 34th time in the NHL playoffs and the bad blood was already flowing before Game 1 of their Eastern Conference semifinal series.

In a Boston Herald column, Stephen Harris described the Canadiens’ P.K. Subban as “despicably villainous” and teammate Alexei Emelin as “a dangerous foe” and “a guy who may be trying deliberately to hurt people.”

“Do we need this crap?” columnist Jack Todd says on this week’s HI/O Show.

Todd is joined by Mike Boone — who live blogs every Canadiens game on HI/O — and sports editor/host Stu Cowan to set the stage for the much-anticipated series and give their predictions.

The Canadiens have won 24 of the first 33 series between the teams, but Boston has won seven of the last 11 playoff meetings, including the last two.

(Photo by Sterling Agres/ HI/O Show)

659 Comments

  1. Mr_MacDougall says:

    Pump up song! Habs Habs Baby!

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KfwCLhqnxbY

    ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

  2. Frank2468 says:

    For fans in Ontario I have a package from Rogers called Variétés. Which includes channels RDS RDS2 TV5 TVA and TVA Sports. I’m assuming it’s the TVA Sports channel that will carry the Hab games next year? If anyone knows more please reply. I’m hoping I don’t see the dreaded blackout symbol on that channel cause I’m in Ontario? I would be royally pissed off paying for something that you can’t watch.

  3. BriPro says:

    PARODIES???
    It’s game-day!
    This is serious business! Many lives depend on the outcome of this series.
    There’s no time for parodies.
    And my sense of hummer as as sharp as the next poster, thank you!

  4. Butterface says:

    HABS IN 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Risin’ up, back on the street
    Did my time, took my chances
    Went the distance
    Now I’m back on my feet
    Just a team and its will to survive

    So many times, it happens too fast
    You trade your passion for glory
    Don’t lose your grip on the dreams of the past
    You must fight just to keep them alive

    [Chorus]
    It’s the eye of the tiger
    It’s the thrill of the fight
    Risin’ up to the challenge
    Of our rival
    And the last known survivor
    Stalks his prey in the night
    And he’s watching us all with the
    Eye of the tiger

    Face to face, out in the heat
    Hangin’ tough, stayin’ hungry
    They stack the odds
    Still we take to the street
    For the kill with the skill to survive

    [Chorus]

    Risin’ up straight to the top
    Had the guts, got the glory
    Went the distance
    Now I’m not gonna stop
    Just a team and its will to survive

    [Chorus]

    The eye of the tiger
    The eye of the tiger
    The eye of the tiger
    The eye of the tiger

    ***********************
    If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…..
    ***********************

  5. Corio says:

    I can’t watch the show video, where is it?

  6. habstrinifan says:

    I am standing by my post of March 24th which includes…

    “I find it very difficult to determine how the HABS will do in the playoffs.
    There are so many key pieces which are in place and which, when you get top level performances from them, make the team better than their inconsistency during the season.”

    I dont see them as the underdogs the pundits are making them out to be. The only piece I see missing is a Gainey type rugged/experienced/tough forward who STAYS on the ice.

    Which is why I am asking Prust NOT TO FIGHT… he is that piece.

  7. Maksimir says:

    Let the speculation begin! If Patches can’t play.. I say:

    Vanek-DD-Gally
    Prust-Pleks-Bournival
    Bourque-Eller-Gionta
    Moen-Briere-Weise

  8. Ian Cobb says:

    LUCIC is a sweatheart!
    If you think LUCY likes to play stick ball!
    Well that is only what you see in public, look for his hands in the dressing room and shower.! Nice fella!

  9. krob1000 says:

    No Pacioretty? Hurt at that exhibition game?

  10. Maksimir says:

    Pacioretty missing at practice! DOOOOMED!

  11. Mavid says:

    Game day!! I can hardly contain my glee…I hope this day goes by fast!!

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  12. WindsorHab-10 says:

    So Boone is picking Boston in 6 may be 5 because they’re the better team. We’ll see about that. Fairly officiated series will favor Habs IMO.

  13. FB says:

    So I cancelled my cable effective May 30th.

    I was considering buying NHL Gamecenter next year until I read the following

    Due to local and national blackout rules and regulations, game broadcasts that are available to watch on television in your local market and nationally televised games are not available to watch live or within 48 hours of game completion in NHL GameCenter LIVE™

    National broadcasts may include games televised on the following networks in your area: CBC, NBC, NBC Sports Network, NHL Network, RDS and TSN

    So basically I can never watch a HABS game on Gamecenter because every HABS game is nationally broadcast on RDS. Can someone confirm this?

    Who knows what next year will bring with Rogers though.

    • Cal says:

      No RDS in your area? Ouch!

      • Hobie says:

        You will only get Habs games on RDS in Eastern Ontario, Quebec and I’m not sure about NB, NS…? You can still get RDS across Canada but the Habs games will be blacked out.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          RDS still has national rights for this season I think. Next year it changes, with TVA being the National Rights holder and some games given/sold to RDS.

        • Cal says:

          Now that is bleeping stupid. I guess it’s online streams, then.

          • Hobie says:

            I feel your frustration Cal. I would LOVE to ditch my $80 something a month cable bill. But the NHL and the Cable companies will not allow that to happen until they find away to rake in the same $$$ over the internet. They will make it possible to cancel cable once they recover that lost $$$.

          • Corio says:

            I use hockeystreams.com, HD streams, $110 a year or pay by month, all the hockey you can consume from most leagues, can freeze your account when not in use, not network blackouts. You’re welcome. :)

          • Hobie says:

            hockeystreams.com is illegal and you run the risk of losing your money at anytime…

        • That’s the worst news I’ve had all day. Hopefully it stays that way.

          Defense wins championships

          “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” St. Thomas Aquinas

        • Hobie says:

          RDS is getting 60 REGIONAL (East Ontario and Quebec) Canadiens games next year, as far as I know.

          • I’m in Alberta so I don’t think that helps me. Friggin’ Rogers.

            Defense wins championships

            “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” St. Thomas Aquinas

      • FB says:

        I have RDS but in order to get it I have to upgrade my package which costs over $70 / month just for hockey.

        That’s my point I’m screwed because ALL HABS games are Nationally broadcast so they are ALL blacked out on NHL Gamecenter.

        Just wondering if anyone can confirm this 100%.

        • habstrinifan says:

          That’s one benefit of living in Ottawa.. i get RDS even though I have reduced my TV subscription and now dont get many of the big channels. Hope Rogers doesnt get wind of how big a deal it is.

          • B says:

            Do you get RDS HD with the basic package without having to add the Variété package?

            –Go Habs Go!–

    • colin_nowra says:

      You have 2 options, if you do get game center, you can easily bypass the restriction by starting up a VPN and once the stream starts you disconnect the VPN.

      You can also get an antenna to get CBC and TVA in HD (assuming you’re in Quebec, not sure if TVA would be available outside)

      • Kooch7800 says:

        Sorry dude didn’t see you already posted. Was it you who recommended it to me earlier in the year? If it was, than thanks. I have already put the app on my phone and my android TV box.

      • Hobie says:

        hockeystreams.com is illegal and you run the risk of losing your money at anytime…

      • Corio says:

        Amen! I have been using it all year and it is better than cable by far imo ..

        P.S Hobe, if it was illegal it would have been taken down, you can’t control the internet as much as the powers that be would like to. It’s a great price, excellent quality, and all the hockey you can eat!

        • Hobie says:

          I was thinking of going that route, maybe I will, but have been told not to. Again, I’m no expert…

          • Corio says:

            Dude, no joke, it’s amazing. I use my laptop with HDMI out to connect to TV. My laptop is connected via ethernet to my LAN at 1GB and the quality is as good as the actual cable feed.

          • Kooch7800 says:

            Try getting an android TV box and you can just put the hockeystreams app on it. You can also put on XMBC to watch your movies. Saves hooking up your laptop

          • Hobie says:

            I’m not saying it isn’t amazing, i do the laptop, HDMI thing for loads of stuff. What I’m saying is hockeystreams.com is illegal, who knows what happens with it by the start of next season…maybe it gets cut off right after you drop your $100 or whatever…

    • Kooch7800 says:

      hockeystreams.com someone on here recommended it and that is what I will be using next year. 100 and you get NHL, AHL, OHL, KHL and no blackout BS

  14. habsfan0 says:

    May 1,1965..49 years ago today.
    I witnessed the Habs win their 1st Stanley Cup defeating the Chicago Black Hawks 4-0 at the Montreal Forum.
    11 other championships followed.
    It’s time for lucky #13.

  15. shiram says:

    Crosby, Getzlaf and Giroux voted Hart Trophy finalists

  16. ffenliv says:

    Flying down to Winnipeg today. Supposed to get in 2 hours before game-time. Northern airlines are notorious for being behind schedule. They’d better not disappoint me today!

  17. Black Horse says:

    All the pressure is on Bawston. Montreal has nothing to lose.

    Price is 1-1 vs the Goons in the playoffs.

    GO HAB GO … GO HAB GO ………….

    ” and the fun begins” – Carey Price

    • mr_jmac says:

      I think this is one of the most ridiculous statements in all of sports.

      I can just imagine the team in the dressing room before the game …

      Gionta: “Lets have a good game boys … just have fun out there. We have nothing to lose. They are the cup favourites so lets just give it our all and if we lose its OK.”

      Price: ” Yah Gio .. I have a gold medal anyway … there is no pressure on me. We are not supposed to win the cup anyway.”

      Vanek: ” I agree … this is just like when I was playing in Buffalo and Long Island… no pressure out there guys. It is not like this is one of the biggest rivalries in sports …”

      Briere: Yup … I grew up in Quebec guys …. these guys are right … there is no pressure when the Habs play teh Bruins.”

  18. BriPro says:

    First off “this aren’t” doesn’t work.

    Second, several months ago, I posted about my daughter’s friend whose boyfriend perished in a local fire and she had lost everything. She posted a fundraising site, and Timo was the first to donate, without ever having met her.

    Don’t judge a book by its rants!

    EDIT: apologies. I was answering another post, and it was modded. If I appear confused, it’s the site’s fault, although my wife will probably argue that point.

  19. Chrisadiens says:

    Speaking of odds…..

    Habs win series +212
    Bruins win series -255

    Habs win tonight +160
    Bruins win tonight. -185

    Vegas is rarely wrong. Let’s hope they’re wrong here. A win tonight can very well tip the odds in the Habs favor.

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

    • mr_jmac says:

      Yup … Vegas is rarely wrong. Going into the first round … STL was the odds on favourite to win the cup, COL was a significant favourite over Wild to win series, SJ was a favourite to beat LA.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Vegas has lost some money probably this year in the playoffs, but by in large they are more often right than wrong, I hope their trend this year continues.

  20. mdp2011 says:

    Let’s hope the little rat bast*rd has a bad case of the runs and can’t play tonight.

    Joe Haggerty ‏@HackswithHaggs 1m
    No Brad Marchand in morning skate tday at Garden. Daniel Paille skating in his place. Appeared to be under the weather yesterday #BruinsTalk

  21. RetroMonkey says:

    Soon, you will all see what my media guide has said all along.
    Your Habs are already golfing. But first my Bruins get to hurt them.

    Bruins will win with Rask in nets.

  22. ProHabs says:

    Can Dougie Hamilton scrap. Who would win a tilt between him and Tinordi.

  23. scrotchland says:

    game day finally. I hope the habs can win but I think we will be dissapointed. bruins in 4.,maybe the habs can win one at home.
    the habs are just too small compared to the bruins. our smurf defense is our to lunch and out of position. hopefully rah rah gorges has his pom poms with him on the ice. they will soften the blows of the body checks.
    This is the series we will see the real coach therian for what he really is. look for bruins in 4 and therian out of a job…

    If you look a gimp horse in the mouth, you won’t notice he’s limping.

    • We didn’t have an abundance of towering defencemen in ’93 either. And I’m thinking our smurf days are pretty much behind us. But by all means, keep beating that horse if you wish.

      I’d rather cheer on les boys than dwell on managements’ past mistakes.

      Go Habs, Go!

      Defense wins championships

      “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” St. Thomas Aquinas

    • Marek says:

      wow, seems like you have everything figured out. No need to even watch I suppose

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      scrotchland, you’re really hitting your stride. Very well done.

      The “our to lunch” was a really nice touch.

  24. Savardian Spin-o-rama says:

    Apologies if this has already been discussed…

    So McGuire was on Mitch Melnick’s show earlier this week saying Dougie Hamilton is the second coming of Larry Robinson. IMHO, I don’t see any comparison — not on the physical side of his game. Larry could hit like nobody’s business and rarely lost puck battles. I suppose their offensive games are comparable. That’s debatable too. Larry could go end-to-end. Haven’t seen Dougie do that but then it’s not like I watch a lot of Bruins games aside from those vs MTL.

    Do you guys see what McGuire does?

    ~~ You’ve been spun ~~

    • frontenac1 says:

      And Big Bird was a great Enforcer! Check out him tuning Schultz and Ragdolling Milbury.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I don’t see it either. McGuire is a pure goof. When he speaks my brain turns off. The fact he actually was an assistant coach in the NHL is baffling.

    • Hobie says:

      To be fair to McGuire, he was quoting someone else when he said that. He agreed.

      I happened to be listening to that interview as well…

    • bwoar says:

      Pierre McGuire, hype someone like crazy? Say it ain’t so! It’s just his schtick.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Scary to think he was a media candidate for Habs GM.
      I say media, because he was never a real candidate.

    • Luke says:

      Dougie is a very good hockey player. (As much as I dislike him, going back to junior).

      He’s big. He can shoot it and he can pass it. He can skate.

      He’s 20 years old. He’s decent on the defensive side of the game, and not too much of a shrinking violet either.

      If those improve as he becomes more mature, well, he certainly has all of the tools to become the ‘next’ Larry Robinson.

      • Forum Dog says:

        I’m not sure he has the intestinal fortitude that Robinson did/does, but in many other respects their games are similar. Larry was a true leader who played with high emotion. We don’t see nearly as much of that these days.

        • Luke says:

          He’s 20. I doubt he’ll be an all-time great and Hall of Famer.
          They don’t come around too often. Problem is, “we” compare 20 year olds to them all too often.

          I’ve not liked Dougie since I watched he and Matt Puempel (then of Peterborough) laughing it up as they lazily followed the play back into the Pete’s zone. Had Dougie quite the social time and applied a little effort, a decent offensive chance could have been converted. As it was… a loose puck wound up where Dougie should have been and an empty net was where the goalie should have been.

          I hate Dougie. But he’s a heck of a player… if/when he matures mentally and physically… no telling where he’ll top out.

          ahhhh… the Leafs, rebuilding the Bruins since 2005.

    • Mavid says:

      One word..McGuire

      Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  25. Say Ash says:

    So, Habs are the longest shot to win, eh? Worth a flyer, I think:

    Boston Bruins 9-4
    Chicago Blackhawks 4-1
    Pittsburgh Penguins 6-1
    Anaheim Ducks 7-1
    Los Angeles Kings 8-1
    New York Rangers 8-1
    Minnesota Wild 10-1
    Montreal Canadiens 12-1

  26. Mr_MacDougall says:

    Game Day Smoothie:

    Handful of Spinach
    Half an Avocado
    2 cups mixed berries (Cran, Blue, Rasp)
    1/2 cup Pomegranate juice
    1 TBLS of each Hemp seeds, Chia Seeds, Flax Seeds, Apple Cider Vinegar.

    Winning recipe, Habs 4-1.

    ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

  27. habs-hampton says:

    So circumstances have me in downtown Boston by myself on Saturday with nothing to do. With the game sold-out and the “entrepreneurs” with spare tickets crying hard-times for a 12:30 game, does anyone have any advice for me? I don’t want to overpay. What would you expect the markup to be?

    Also, when we win, should I be afraid? ;) I guessing the hooligans will be less rowdy for a noon game.

    • BriPro says:

      Whatever you do, I would stay quiet in their barn.
      I realize Boston isn’t Philly, but you don’t want to be cowardly beaten by a dozen idiots.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        You’re right Bri
        there’s a reason why they have fences around dangerous animals at the zoo.

        • BriPro says:

          Funny you should say that Ron.
          Years ago, we met people who would become good friends from Philadelphia.
          Average people with average lifestyles, like most of us.
          They gave us the toor, and showed us the better sides of both the city and its people. Very nice.
          Then we came near the area near the tracks, and were told to NEVER go there.
          I wonder if those are the monkeys who beat that poor Ranger fan.

      • GrosBill says:

        I have been to a few games in Boston, including the playoff game where the Habs got outshot 46-13 if I recall correctly and Theo stood on his head.

        I cheer and have my jersey on and aside from occasionally getting heckled, I never really had any problems. I mean, I wouldn’t shout “in your face” to near by fans after a goal or anything.

        I have friends who tell me Philly is much worse but I have never gone to a game in Philly.

        I read all the time it is suicide to go to a game in Bos as a Hab fan, but in the games I have attended, it was fine.

  28. Hobie says:

    How we’ve improved since our last (game 7 OT) playoff loss to Boston.

    1) Pacioretty is one of the best goal scorers in the league and was missing from the lineup.

    2) Vanek is amazing.

    3) Markov is not injured.

    4) Emelin is in the lineup and will knock one of the Bruins key players out.

    5) Prust baby!!!!

    6) Price is older and more mature and one of the top goalies in the league.

    7) Gallagher baby!!!!!!!!

    8) Bergevin and Therrien.

    9) Subban won the Norris.

    10) We’re not the softest team in the league anymore!

    WE GOT THIS ONE BOYS AND GIRLS!!!!

    GO HABS GO!!!!!

  29. BriPro says:

    I predicted our Habs to oust the Lightning in
    5 games if team A showed up or
    7 games if team B showed up.
    Since it was team A+, the result was in 4.

    For the Bruins, my prediction is
    Team A: Habs in 6
    Team B: Boons in 7
    So by process of elimination, and hoping team A+ should show up, our Habs will take it in 5.
    (Although I’d love to see another image of the broom wearing the Habs hat)

  30. Stanley Cup or Bust ! says:
  31. 24 Cups says:

    Probable Boston Starting Lineup:

    17-Milan Lucic 46–David Krejci 12-Jarome Iginla
    63-Brad Marchand 37-Patrice Bergeron 18-Reilly Smith
    57-Justin Florek 34-Carl Soderberg 21-Loui Eriksson
    20-Daniel Paille – 11-Gregory Campbell 22-Shawn Thornton

    33-Zdeno Chara 27-Dougie Hamilton
    43-Matt Bartkowski – 55-Johnny Boychuk
    47-Torey Krug 86-Kevin Miller

    40-Tuukka Rask

    Scratches – Jordan Caron/Andrej Meszaros

    Injuries – Dennis Seidenberg / Chris Kelly /Adam McQuaid

    24.4 Cups

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      Chara Hamilton.. I love our chances to expose that… Let’s see if our speed does to Hamilton what it did to Hedman.

      ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

    • Paz says:

      That looks so average on paper. They play well in 3 zones as a team.

      • 24 Cups says:

        - Florek is subbing for Kelly which is a step down for the B’s
        – those first two lines are rock solid
        – Soderberg has been really good this year and Eriksson is a top six talent
        – Reilly Smith is having a great year
        – Krug and Miller are both rookies who were walk on, free agent signings
        – I love Boychuk. Boston picked him up for Hendricks. What a steal that was.
        – Bergeron, Krejci and Lucic were all 2nd rounders. Marchand was drafted 71st. That’s 4 out of 6 top forwards selected 45, 50, 63 and 71 in the draft.
        – Rask isn’t Varlomov, Brobovsky or Niemi. He’s a purebred just like Price.

        24.4 Cups

    • Forum Dog says:

      Aside from Krug and (to a lesser extent) Hamilton, Boston does not have many puckmovers on the backend. Habs need to get on them fast, finish their checks, and have the other forward(s) clogging up the outlets. As someone else noted below, pressure on the Boston D should result in turnovers. Pressure means physical contact though, so it is imperative that guys like Eller, Bourque, Weise, Prust and Moen finish every check hard.

      It will be tough for the Habs D to match up physically with that 1st line, but after that I see the teams as being pretty even in terms of depth. Bruins have a bit more jam, but Habs have a bit more speed and skill.

      Honestly, it should be a great series to watch, regardless of who wins. Looking forward to seeing Pacioretty-DD-Vanek get loose on that Boston D.

  32. Chuck Kept Calm and Carey'd On says:

    So the San Jose Sharks pulled a Boston Bruins… what a shame.

    X X X X 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1

  33. rhino514 says:

    I realize MT would have to have a lot of cajones to do this, but what abaout splitting up Pacioretty and Vanek?
    Tampa shut down the top line effectively and we know that the Bruins have an incredible shutdown line.
    I think Pleks has enough offensive savvy to get the puck over to either of these guys.

    • bwoar says:

      On the other hand, Max P missed 3-4 beautiful chances alone on net… he beat the checking and that line can do it against Boston as well.

  34. Luke says:

    Good Morning, Folks!

    I had my fancy coffee.
    Habs playoff record on a fancy coffee day? 4 Wins. ZERO losses.
    I’ve done my part.
    It’s your turn now, Habs.

    WOO!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Tim Horton’s in their glass/ceramic mugs?

      • Luke says:

        pffffft.
        no.
        Tim’s?
        harumph.
        it’s the playoffs.
        gotta have a playoff coffee.
        west coast style.
        everyone says the west is gonna win the cup.
        white mocha americano misto
        sugar rush!
        oh yah

    • Hobie says:

      This morning I kissed my Habs Stanley Cup, acquired from case of beer in 199?.
      I’m wearing my Prust shirt.
      My playoff beard is looking real nice.
      My desk is covered with distasteful Bruins pictures, including one of Boychuk being carried off on a stretcher.

      I’m ready go bananas here at work!!!!!

      AAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHAHAHH!!!!!!1

  35. Chrisadiens says:

    I am seriously debating finding coverage for work tonight. God help my boss if the Habs play the Rangers. With all the TVs and loud Rangers fans, I would have to call out every game. The idea of DVRing and being oblivious to the score would be impossible.

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

  36. krob1000 says:

    Wow I was just checking Heatley’s career stats …he should have been a lock to get 500 career goals…he has 372 but has only 73 goals in last 4 seasons….went from a 40-50 goal guy consistently to an underachiever. What is odd that goal scoring is not a talent that normal “disappears”…..it is impacted hugely by usage as Heatley was always best on the pp and needs a top playmeker and favourable matchups….when he has that I don’t doubt he could still score 30 ish….

    • monmick says:

      “…impacted hugely by usage…”

      As well as by off-ice activities…

      ~~~> Mathematically eliminated…

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      He was best when he was trying to earn a lengthy high value contract.

      The NHL game is too vicious for a long career, I don’t blame home for looking out for himself.

      ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

  37. jimmy shaker says:

    With Vanek certain to leave for Minny, and the sharks having to make big changes to their team. Who should MB inquire about? Thornton, Marleau or Burns? Looks like Trotz will be the sharks new bench boss!

    Shaker out!

  38. Un Canadien errant says:

    Listening to Vancouver TEAM 1040, they’re talking about Bruins Asst. GM. Jim Benning being Trevor Linden’s first choice to replace Mike Gillis, but the Bruins don’t want to release him until after the draft, which is reminiscent of Brian Burke allowing Rick Dudley to come to Montréal, but with an understanding that he wouldn’t work on the upcoming draft. Seems reasonable enough, that you don’t want your team’s intel to benefit another team, but Vancouver would be hooped if they can’t get him in the building until after the draft, they need to hire a new coach.

    The hosts are batting around Doug Jarvis as a long-term interim coach, to work with the kids for a couple of years, and then you hire your star, ‘real’ coach.

    I don’t see that working. First of all, the Canucks don’t have any kids to develop.

    ———————————————————————–
    My sources are unreliable, but their info is fascinating.–Woody Paige

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • monmick says:

      Why would they fire Torts (if we believe the rumours) before hiring a new GM? I don’t get it…

      ~~~> Mathematically eliminated…

    • Paz says:

      I watched Yann Sauve develop here and he was very highly regarded dman, big, mobile, talented. Number 1 pick in Quebec for the Qmjhl, 41st overall pick to Canucks.

      Hard to believe that he can’t play NHL at 24 yrs of age.

      Something is wrong

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I’m being hyperbolic when I say they have no kids to develop, but the Canucks are a veteran team right now, they’re not a team like the Oilers or Flames.

        In the five drafts from 2006 to 2011, the Canucks drafted three useful assets: Michael Grabner in 2006, Cody Hodgson in 2008 and Kevin Connauton in 2009, and they turned Grabner and Connauton into air. That creates massive problems at the best of times, but this year, when the team was ravaged by injuries, they desperately needed quality call-ups and none were available.

        http://www.theprovince.com/sports/hockey/canucks-hockey/Willes+Musings+Canucks+rebuild+starts+draft/9781834/story.html

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          It’s a quote from six years ago, but it could have been said yesterday.

          Well, except for the part that it was Mike Gillis who was doing the talking.

          The deposed general manager may be gone, but it will be a long, long time before his first public appearance in Vancouver will be forgotten.

          It was then, in spring 2008, when the newly minted leader of the Canucks was asked if the team’s scouting history was good enough to build a contender.

          He was blunt. And cutting.

          “No,” Gillis said then. “I’m going to bring a new and different perspective.

          “If we can’t be successful with those people (scouts), there will be changes.

          “Coaches handle the assets they’re given and they were lean at times. I don’t see a tremendous push from below (prospects).”

          Six years later, and there still is no tremendous push.

          http://www.theprovince.com/sports/hockey/canucks-hockey/Botchford+much+things+change+they+remain+same/9780253/story.html

          • HabinBurlington says:

            We saw the same effect with the Habs, for 2-3 years the Habs were having to sign Colby Armstrong type players to fill roster spots. Suddenly we have Galchenyuk, Bournival, Gallagher filling roster spots. Hopefully next season we see Tinordi full time and perhaps even Beaulieu. Now we need to be fortunate and have another forward come out of the woodwork and be ready to challenge for a forward spot in the coming year or two. That appears to be our present weakness, De laRose is probably 2 years away at best, same with McCarron. Thus the reason retaining a Vanek becomes more critical, and why Gionta will likely be re-signed.

  39. 24 Cups says:

    Vincent Lecavalier buyout from CapGeek:

    ◦ 2014-15: $1,500,000
    ◦ 2015-16: $3,000,000
    ◦ 2016-17: $3,000,000
    ◦ 2017-18: $2,500,000
    ◦ 2018-19: $1,000,000
    ◦ 2019-20: $1,000,000
    ◦ 2020-21: $1,000,000
    ◦ 2021-22: $1,000,000

    24.4 Cups

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I think it was a contract like that which essentially is why MB signed Briere, Briere was willing to take a 2 year deal. While he wasn’t our #1 choice, it was a choice with much less long term impacts.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Yes, I would have preferred Vincent on a reasonable contract, but if I have to pick my poison with the contracts they signed last summer, ten times out of ten I choose Daniel Brière.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Does this include his Tampa buyout?

      —–
      Moving. Forward.

  40. 24 Cups says:

    NHLEXPERTPICKS.COM @NHLexpertpicks

    Thomas Vanek’s agent, Stephen Bartlett, says his client has become more open to the possibility of signing an extension in #Montreal.
    10:03 AM – 30 Apr 2014

    24.4 Cups

    • HabinBurlington says:

      While a positive note, also a nice way for Vanek’s agent to get perhaps that 8th year in a contract offer from the Habs.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      You can read more in the recent La Presse article.

    • krob1000 says:

      Everyone uses Montreal as leverage….it is refreshing to hear there is a chance btu like I said EVERYONE uses Montreal. Why? Players can use the history and mystique, the often inflated offer due to the taxes,etc. While I don’t doubt that success and a seamless tranistion have perhaps opened him up to the idea I will still take this news witha grain of salt….it makes just as much sense as a leverage tactic as a change of heart. We’ll see where he stands when the time comes…I would say right now it is 75 percent elsewhere and 25 percent Montreal which is better than I would have thought a month ago. I think the chances increase with every round teh Habs advance. Montrela would need to offer the career money witht eh up front money and use the 8th eyar to keep cap hit down for it to work for both parties. His game is not one that is likely going to have him be successful at 40 years old.

    • Shackles says:

      I got very excited reading this…then Krob brought me back down to earth with excellent points.
      Would I give Vanek 2014 8 million? Yup
      Would I give Vanek 2021 8 million? Nope
      Speaking of using Mtl as leverage… Jaromir Jagr I’m talking to you!
      Is Jagr a game changer? Yup
      Is he worth 8 million? Nope

      • 24 Cups says:

        I agree with all of your points. However, the big question is where is Montreal going to find a guy like Vanek if it’s not out on the free agent market? They don’t have anyone in the system and probably will never draft high enough in the next half dozen years in order to grab a gunslinger like Vanek.

        If Vanek leaves in July, the Habs are going to be forced to sign another free agent right winger. There’s no getting around that fact.

        24.4 Cups

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Yup! I think for the most part almost all teams are carrying at least 1 bad contract. Vanek’s contract wouldn’t be bad until near the end, and given his size and style of play, it is realistic for him to still be effective in his later years. It isn’t like he relies on speed at the present time to be the player he is.

        • krob1000 says:

          Stastny is looking pretty good …I know he is a center but I am figuring even if he stays in COlorado he wil eventually have to move to the wing. He could play wing for a couple of years in Montreal until the Habs move Pleks and/or DD.

          • 24 Cups says:

            Colorado has the cap space for Stastny but their owners are real penny pinchers.

            Even so, Stastny is going to grab over 50M on the open market. He’s a left handed shot which is a drawback but he’s also two years younger than Vanek which is a bonus. Montreal would also only have to give him 7 years instead of 8.

            24.4 Cups

        • Shackles says:

          Vanek is a perfect fit and the piece which has been missing from the team for too many years. :)

  41. JUST ME says:

    I think that the key resides in those first two games . If the Habs can manage to win one or both then the head games will play a big role against the bucking fruins…

  42. Strummer says:

    Hab connections to 2 game (and series) winning goals last night-

    Benny Pouliot for Rangers

    Nino Niederreiter for Minny- he was the guy that Cammeleri speared in pre-season in 2010 and ended up with a 1 game suspension as a result.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH3bqxNiJSo
    ____________________________________________________
    “You are not T.J. Oshie. Do not shoot pucks at people without a helmet.”.

    • ProHabs says:

      What about the Kopitar connection, the guy the Habs didn’t draft while taking Carey Price.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        May as well make a list of all the players that are still in the NHL drafted behind Kostitsyn.

        ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

      • New says:

        Remember the huge debates amongst fans and media? Should the Habs luck in and Pouliot or Brule still be available which one to pick. :-) Every now and then someone would say Ryan! (2nd) or Kopitar! (11th) or just throw in Crosby will never amount to anything! Man just imagine if the Habs had taken Brule (6th – Pouliot went 4th).

  43. Fansincebirth says:

    Heading for Cuba Saturday morning so I’m happy the series is starting tonight. I’m hoping either we are still playing when I get back OR we’ve already sent the Bruins packing.

    This is going to be a tough series any way you look at it and everything hinges on how the refs respond to it. Let the Bruins run rampant and it could get ugly quickly. If we can stick to our game of speed and transition then we stand a very good chance of winning. Key for us is to not get sucked into playing their game and I’m sure MT has drilled this in their heads.

    Time to rock their little make believe world of “we can do anything we want to whomever we want”. This will be sweet victory!

  44. mdp2011 says:

    I am not Tony Marinaro’s biggest fan, actually really don’t like the guy, but if you’re on twitter you need to follow him during this series. He is trolling Bruins fans big time and it is pure comedy gold. The stuff these idiots write to him is mind boggling, it is really something to see.

    • JUST ME says:

      Marinaro is not ranked at a much higher level that those so-called idiots. I do not agree with either of them and feel like this dirty game reveals a lot about people and who they really are.

  45. HabinBurlington says:

    If we outscore Boston in 4 games we win this series!

  46. Habfun says:

    This is a wasted day for me at work, they should just tell me to go home! I’m not going to get anything done!
    Just drop the puck and let’s rumble!!
    Oh yes, one more thing!

    GO HABS GOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It’s all about the CH

  47. habs-fan-84 says:

    It’s going to a be a long day today, hurry up 5 o’clock!

  48. Mr_MacDougall says:

    I’ve heard many “keys to the series” in media previews including goaltending, physicality, defence, and depth.

    My key to the series is more specific.. Breakaways.

    Late in the season and into the first round the Habs have been getting 3 times as many breakaways as they give up. Given the B’s slower D that most, hopefully the Habs will be able to cash in given the extra time they’ll have on these high quality chances.

    We all know Plek, Gio, and Patch will get their breaks, if they cash in we will win.

    ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

  49. HabinBurlington says:

    Dany Heatley with a big goal for Minny last night, maybe they re-sign him instead of Vanek? (I’m trying here folks, I’m trying!)

    • mdp2011 says:

      I like your thinking. Maybe the Habs can trade the other playoff hero Rene Bourque to Minny this off season, so they have more money for Subban and Vanek.

    • Phil C says:

      I’m not sure he fits the “character” player model MB is going for. But I like how you think. How about Stastny? His production in the playoffs should help his value. Gaborik would fit in nicely with DD and Pacioretty too.

      • mdp2011 says:

        I think he meant the Wild re-sign Heatley so Habs can sign Vanek.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Yup! That’s what I meant, we want no part of Heatley.

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          Look, if anybody should sign Dany Heatley, it should be the Bruins. Or the Leafs.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Perhaps the Leafs should also trade Kessel to San Jose for Joe Thornton. Both teams need a culture change, and while the trade would not benefit either team it would keep them both happy. (Okay maybe Kessel would help San Jose, but Toronto loses in the trade I think so I can endorse it.)

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            Well, they are looking for that big #1 centre…

  50. Maritime Ronn says:

    After listening to all the TSN/Sportsnet experts, here’s wondering why Montreal is even bothering to show up…

    Here’s how I see it.
    Boston is a solid team, yet they are Extremely Vulnerable on the back end – especially their 2nd-3rd pair, bottom 4 defencemen.

    Having watched several Bruins games this year, the probable Vezina Trophy winner Rask bailed out that gang more often than not.

    When those 4 Dmen were not pressured and allowed to waltz out of the zone – or given huge time and space to make a play, they looked OK, and then the Bruins forwards went to work.

    When they were pressured at all, they became giveaway machines – started to run around, and only the superb play of Rask allowed them to avoid some repeated goat horns.

    Just a guess, yet here is belief that pressure on the Bruins D will be Coach MT’s plan.
    If so, can the Habs execute?
    If the Habs lay back, the series will be over quickly.

    The other important factor is the faceoff circle.
    Winning faceoffs usually dictates puck and then zone control.
    Habs will be in tough.
    Bruins were at 53.5% and the Habs 48.7% in the 1st playoff round.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Good call. Here’s what scares me more then anything about Boston. They create open spaces in the slot and get the puck there as good as any team in the league. If they weren’t such a bunch of pathetic jerks I’d admire that. :)

    • Phil C says:

      It’s a bit of a cliche, but getting the first goal will be huge in this series. Either team with a lead is capable of playing stifling team defense. The Habs need to get to Rask early.

    • Marc10 says:

      Special teams are going to be huge. We’re going to need a big lift here.

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      In order for faceoff wins to give a team a goal advantage they have to win 76.5 more faceoffs than their opponent. With an average of 60 faceoffs per game, a team has to win 60% of the faceoffs IN THE ENTIRE SERIES to gain a one goal advantage….

      I’ve always thought that face off stats were overrated.

      Sure, there are specific faceoffs that are important, but that is usually at a point in the game where very single play is of equal importance.. Clearing the puck, every pass, hit, battle, shot, save….

      Here’s where is got my face-off data

      http://statsportsconsulting.com/main/wp-content/uploads/FaceoffAnalysis12-12.pdf

      ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Those are good points, yet faceoffs may be more important in this series than let’s say a game of Florida-Islanders.
        Think about a neutral zone faceoff in this series and how control of that will dictate what zone the puck will end up in… and then how hard every battle will be for every foot of ice.

        • Mr_MacDougall says:

          No doubt faceoffs have some importance… But I highly doubt they impact the game as much as shots on goal, penalties, passing proficiency, speed, discipline, back checking, to name a few.

          ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

  51. Ozmodiar says:

    Torts is out!

    When he was hired by the Canucks, I thought: train wreck

    Glad he didn’t let me down.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Good call Oz. I was right there with you. The Canucks went with “splash” instead of “value”.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Given all the coaching firings have to wonder whom the Canucks will end up with. Of course they also have the small matter of finding a new GM. Will Linden get it right and allow his new GM to hire the new coach, or will he hire the coach then tell the new GM to work with him?

      • Ozmodiar says:

        I predict Bylsma.

        Too soon?

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Interesting that in Calgary, that’s probably what will happen. Based on what we’ve seen, Brian Burke is satisfied with Bob Hartley, as he probably should be. So during the interview with Brad Treliving, they’ve probably come to an agreement, that the incumbent coach would continue, get a chance to prove himself to the new GM. No harm done if they go that way, they knock another year off his cheap, cheap contract, and spend another season drilling the kids on how to play hard-nosed, Flames hockey.

  52. Ozmodiar says:

    Some teams that I was a bit concerned about, based on how the Habs match up against them, are starting to drop:

    St. Louis, SJ, Colorado, Columbus, Philly

    One more will drop in the Anaheim / LA series.

    If the Habs take care of their own business vs the B’s, things could get very interesting….

  53. boing007 says:

    Kings make minnows of the Sharks.

    Richard R

  54. 24AW says:

    If LA beats ANA, I think the cup will be heading back to Los Angeles.
    IMO they have the best goaltending and the best defense and that’s a good combo to winning a cup.

  55. Marc10 says:

    So Bourque and Eller with goals tonight… And PK and Gally for good measure? Oh and Patches too… Why not. They’ll be doubt in Boston tonight when Les Boys send a message. Go Habs Go!

  56. boing007 says:

    Paperback Writer.

    Richard R

  57. Marc10 says:

    SJ needs a goalie. Niemi should be the goat on this one. And they need a new PP coach. I’d call Guy Boucher.

  58. JUST ME says:

    Here goes another group of you guys eating crow ! Therrien was the best choice over Roy !

    Just teasing you guys cause i think both are excellent choices although i think Roy was the perfect guy for the job in Colorado where he would join his friends and where he is considerer as a god. I am not saying that this feeds his ego …but it does help to have carte blanche and he deserves a lot of credit for the great results his team got. Anyway he did admit that he was flattered that the Habs considered him for the job but that now was probably not the time…

    But still if the shoe fits for the crow eating stuff…

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      It worked out well for both of them.
      Patrick wanted Player Personnel power and he received that in Colorado.

      Colorado was probably a better choice for Patrick concerning magnifying glass pressure and mental health.
      He’s a big boy in town with only great memories there, yet he is not the only game in town for the microscope.

      Denver has the Elway/Peyton Broncos, MLB, NBA, NCAA…

    • Marc10 says:

      The plate of crow only gets bigger from here on in. If the Habs pass this test, you can add the sauce.

  59. Un Canadien errant says:

    Last night I became aware that Dan Carcillo and Zach Rinaldo are two different players on two different team. In my mind they were conflated into one giant jerk.

    ———————————————————————–
    My sources are unreliable, but their info is fascinating.–Woody Paige

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  60. Shackles says:

    I had a small chuckle reading a typo in a TSN article this morning….should add more fuel to Timo’s anti-Therrien fire.
    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450941

    “No comment,” Montreal coach Michel Therrien said flatly after he was twice asked if he hates the Canadiens Wednesday.

  61. Un Canadien errant says:

    Dan Boyle, right-shooting offensive defenceman, intriguing option for free agency this July. He’s 37, not sure how many years he’d be looking for, but a two-year contract to be a placeholder for us while the Bulldogs continue their apprenticeship might be worth considering.

    Super-duper special skill: he speaks French.

    • Marc10 says:

      Said he’d never play for us. Non merci.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Really, I wasn’t aware of that. Do you have a link or source or context?

        I was just thinking the Sharks will want to change their culture, we can probably assume Dan Boyle is gone.

        • Habfan17 says:

          The talk I heard on the radio is the coach will probably go and Boyle will be resigned as long as he accepts a contract that will fit the budget. They are high on him as a leader and a winner!

          Habfan17

    • Marc10 says:

      From a radio interview Mario Langlois at 98.5 did with him several years ago. He was asked if one day we might see him playing back home and his answer could barely contain the loathing he had for the organisation at the time.

      You know when someone is being diplomatic and instead if saying what he really thinks says: ‘I like it here. Fans leave you alone and the weather is nice.’ Spoken like a true Vincent Lecavalier…

      So if he’s changed his mind, I say we tell his agent to enjoy that warm Californian weather or perhaps look at Phoenix or Florida or even Dallas. I hear it’s lovely.

      But you know… A guy gets old, has seen better days… Suddenly he loves the Habs again. Seen that play. Non merci.


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