HI/O Show: ‘One of the wildest games I’ve ever seen’

Columnist Jack Todd has seen a lot of playoff hockey games during his career, but he can’t remember one like the Canadiens’ wild 7-4 victory over the New York Rangers in Game 5 of the Eastern Conference final Tuesday night at the Bell Centre.

“You don’t expect to see that in the playoffs,” Todd says on this week’s HI/O Show. “Every season you get a few wild ones like that during the regular season, but not in the playoffs … especially not in the conference final. One of the wildest games I’ve ever seen.”

Former Canadien Chris Nilan — who joins Todd and Gazette sports editor/host Stu Cowan on the HI/O Show — compared it to a ping-pong game.

Whatever you want to call it, the Canadiens’ victory — their third in an elimination game this postseason — forced Game 6 Thursday night in New York with the Rangers leading the best-of-seven series 3-2.

Check out the HI/O Show below as we set the stage for what should be a wild Game 6:

(Photo by Sterling Agres/HI/O Show)


  1. Danno says:

    Chicago is going to win it. Just a feeling…


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  2. johnnylarue says:

    Credit where it’s due: Bob is actually doing a solid job with the play-by-play tonight.

  3. Ozmodiar says:

    Dear CBC Sports,

    I don’t care about magic. I realize the magician is the son of one of your employees, but still, I don’t care.

    Please stick to hockey, since that’s what folks are tuning in to watch. Save the magic highlights for the holiday staff parties.

    If you really really really want to show magic, then show some vintage Kreskin (that guy is amazing!).


    * not really

  4. Timo says:

    I have some left over aeroplan points I need to use up in June. I am thinking a trip to LA to see a SCF game.

  5. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Sad story here in Ukraine, as one of our only hockey arenas burned down :(. Thought id post as it relates to hockey… Kinda sad considering a lot of kids played there and stuff. Almost like 2 worlds here, in the west (where I am located) everything is at peace, over there not so much. I have 7 guests over tommorow to watch the game with me! Habs sure are international!


  6. johnnylarue says:

    Yikes. Crawford.

    I gotta say, the way the Kings are playing the Hawks right now doesn’t leave me with much hope regarding a potential SCF matchup. They’re kind of horrifyingly good. And deep.

    Broonz might have given them a run for their money, hilariously enough…

  7. Willy the bum says:

    I am one to vote for Vanek to replace for Prust.

    Yes, he is the most valuable player to the team and on any game he may produce for a win, but what has he done? You can choose any game wherever the Habs score a lot or a little, was their even a game point – goal or assist – made by him? And when he was paid for the this season, has he done something as of late?

    There is a difference between our Canadiens and the 29 other teams in the league. Vanek is a valuable player and all 29 teams want him to be in their line-up, especially the Rangers (if they want). All the teams would be certain of placing him on the permanent roster. To the Habs it’s all about earning the spot on the roster, and that means working his butt off, producing not even goals or assists but by doing everything else to contribute the game and helping the team to win. There’s no special treatment when it comes to star players, they must earn their reputation by showing us they can play with energy, hard work, and passion.

    I will give my utmost respect to Therrien if he ever bench Vanek and bring in the motivation in Prust.

    < "TO-KAR! TO-KAR! TO-KAR!"

  8. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Vanek is living out of a Montreal hotel with His wife and kids, the last I heard …unless she subsequently has left Montreal for Minnesota until the end of the season

    …Vanek looks physically out of top-shape, and His head out of sorts

    …no, excuses, though, for a Player presently making $ 7 millions per season

    …imagine a hockey player on the cusp potentially to play in the Stanley Cup finals, and that player not giving a hoot (or, so it appears)


    …now, after saying this, watch Him do a ‘Bourque’ in New York

    …or, …not 🙂

    • scamorza says:

      thought he was at least more engaged last night, not at $7M but then again few are

      come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

    • Ozmodiar says:

      …an injury would be a valid excuse

      …i guess we’ll know soon enough

      …or not.

      …hopefully not

      …too soon.

      • johnnylarue says:

        Looking at how soft his shots are (when he even shoots at all), it seems pretty likely the guy is nursing a “body injury”, to borrow a phrase from Therrien’s formidable lexicon.

  9. scamorza says:

    so haven’t “checked” in for 24 hours was on the road and watched the game in Montreal at Sergio Momessos’ Dad restaurant in NDG man if you want to watch the game in a good spot order the the supreme sub – man that was tasty and dirt cheap. Didn’t give up believing even after the calamitous 2nd period swoon what a game no? and now in Gatineau, the vibes are good passed the Rocket statue and some one has draped “him” with a Habs flag. So far all those who doubted – a giant raspberry! montreal in 7 – damn proud of this team win or lose
    come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

  10. JF says:

    Norman Flynn says the fact that Lundqvist was terrible last night and was pulled worries him for tomorrow night. He thinks Lundqvist will certainly rebound tomorrow and will probably be at his best. Flynn says he was pulled in Game four of the Rangers-Penguins series, after which he was outstanding.

    On the other hand, Benoît Brunet thinks Lundqvist is one of the most over-rated goaltenders in the League.

    • Ton says:

      Flynn and Brunet…….ouch can you trust there judgement!

    • CJ says:

      I agree with Flynn. We will need to beat the King, while at his best.

      • scamorza says:

        think he will rebound but then again happy if he continues to stay deep in his crease, we showed last night how he could be beat , if he continues with his his MO. Drive to the net, he can’t stop what he can’t see. That being said cool to see Patches beat him straight up through the 5 hole

        come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

    • johnnylarue says:

      I would absolutely expect Hank to be at his game-changing best tomorrow night… which is why getting the Rags’ skaters off their game will be all the more important.

      Gotta be fast and feisty, get them chasing us, create a bit of chaos in the d-zone and cash in on our chances. John Moore might only be a #5 D in terms of ice time, but subbing in a relatively cold (and somewhat crunchable) Diaz should be to our advantage on the cycle/forecheck… and help to compensate for the 4-5 goals he almost certain to score on us as a scorned former Hab.

  11. Ton says:

    off topic but what happened to beautiful Andi on CBC? As well how come ugly Michel Bergeron is no longer on Antichambre?

    • JUST ME says:

      Bergeron is no longer with RDS .He signed with the rest of the leftover media old wannabees at TVASPORT.

      Andie is spliting her time between morning radio and supper time TV but not both together. Have not seen her for a while but from her twitter account still seems active.

      • Ton says:

        Interesting…..now you can you brief me on what we should be ordering in regards to TV next year……..are we going to be breaking the bank……..I want to watch all the Habs games!

        • johnnylarue says:

          RDS is good for 60 games, and you can stream the rest (if you can stomach occasional lag and sub-HD picture quality.)

        • JUST ME says:

          Have no idea myself ! Am waiting to see if they will issue a special package once this season is over. Am even wondering if my streaming source on the net will cover everything next season.

          At first it was rumored that the Habs game would be broadcasted on the regular TVA channel on saturdays wich comes with the basic cable deal but not surprisingly it does not seem so and tvasports will be airing the saturday night games.

          Same thing with the english broadcast of the games who gets to air what when? Sportsnet gets everything ? What about the CBC don`t they keep some ? What about TSN . I know RDS still gets the bulk of the games 62 , and tva gets the rest saturdays and playoffs but for now it`s a puzzle.

          One thing is for sure though is that from now on we will have to pay more and more for our favorite pastime.

      • Ozmodiar says:

        CBC TV – Andi Petrillo
        CBC Radio – Andie Bennett

        Not sure if you folks are talking about the same Andi(e). Was the former not on the TV broadcast?

        / HiO’s frontenac – Andi Capp

    • jols says:

      Not sure about Andi but I think Bergeron moved to TVA Sports. Not positive though.

  12. BriPro says:

    They’re blogging in New York regarding “Tokarski’s ridiculously lucky shaft save”.

    Of course, I had to add my 2-cents worth.

    “I hope you all realize that had Galchenyuk’s shot in OT not hit the shaft of Lundquist’s stick before deflecting off of the cross bar, the series would still be 3-2, but for our Habs. So who’s ridiculously lucky now?”

    That is some of the most Free-range, Organically-grown, Disingenuous,
    Idealogically-marinated, Un-Self-awareness I’ve ever seen in the wild.

    – John Stewart on Marchand, the RAT

  13. jols says:

    Wow, this Hawks/Kings game is so similar to our game last night. Goals all over the place. Quick not looking great…

  14. punkster says:

    Some interesting opinions on HIO in the past 24 hours, some of which I may or may not agree with:

    – the crew who wrote off the Habs…before last night’s game had even started
    – the folks who blamed the Rags 2nd goal, an unfortunate deflection, all on Gorges…and/or PK…take your pick
    – the crowd who assured us that Toker should have had that Stepan goal…even though it defelcted off a Habs stick then did one of those tragic dramatic aerodynamic dips as it whizzed by the kid
    – the guys complaining after the first period that the Habs weren’t hitting, never hit, blah, blah, blah…yet the hits were 14 each at that point and ended 29-27 for Hab
    – the worrywarts concerned that Toker let in 4 last night…when 2 were unplanned deflections
    – and all the over the top expression of shame by those who found Plekanec’s small embellishment such a huge embarrassment to the Habs…when any player on any team will try to sell a call if they think they can get away with it

    On the other hand there is general agreement that both Moore and Dorsett are both poopoo heads.

    All in all a typical day.

    Release the Subbang!!!

    • Mr. Biter says:

      Hey, same as what happens all season long. Nothing ever changes. Wonder what happened to the posters who wanted to “Blow the whole team up” earlier in the season?
      Habs win tomorrow they blow the Rangers out in Game 7. 1st 10 minutes tomorrow will be really important as Rangers will come out flying and if withstand the early pressure and score the 1st goal I am very optimistic.
      Go Habs Go

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

    • Timo says:

      Sounds like you are trying to lead us to an epiphany instead of just getting straight to the point.

    • Loop_Garoo says:

      Re: Pleks- there is nothing wrong with wanting the players on your team to live up to a certain standard. Also, the excuse that “other players embellish so we should too..” went out the window the first time your mom said to you “if everyone else jumped off a bridge…

      • punkster says:

        Ya, and none of them purposely hook, trip, interfere, dish out head shots, embellish, and of course none of them ever use PEDs.

        A certain standard is fine and I’m all for standards, character, honesty and no cheating.

        My guess is they all do some of the above (not to be confused with all doing all of the above ).

        Release the Subbang!!!

  15. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …would love to see Alex Galchenyuk after a summer in a Gary Roberts boot camp

    …I think that is the next step for Alex to reach His potential

  16. Danno says:

    All those Rangers fans who laughed at Ginette and made remarks about the fat lady singing. They won’t be so cocky when she sings the anthems on Saturday.


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  17. donmarco says:

    Tonight looks a little like last night. Early penalty followed by home team goal. The desperate team will win tonight. Just like last night.

  18. Danno says:

    I really hope all this speculation about Dale Weise having a concussion is just that. I’m sure the Habs would not have let him back in the game if there were any signs of concussion.


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  19. donmarco says:

    Dale Weise has been one of Bergevin’s better moves as GM, and he has made more than a few good moves. Considering his passion for the Habs he’d probably resign for $50 and some movie passes. I really hope we sign him in the off season. It’s “bottom” 6 forwards like him that win Cups.

  20. CJ says:

    So, without looking, anyone care to guess who’s second on the team in playoff point totals? Hint, he has 13 points in 16 games, and is plus 6. Despite having played fewer games than many ahead of him in league scoring, he’s still tied for 12th in the entire league.

    IMO, he’s enjoyed a terrific playoffs, competing in all three zones…..

    Yeah, I hate guessing games too. The answer, Lars Eller.

    IMO, the third line has carried this team, at times, throughout the postseason. The engine that drives this unit wears number 81. I was at the golf course today, so please excuse me if this is a repetitive post, but, on the eve of game six, I wanted to give a quick shout out to a big piece of not only our future, but our present!

    Cheers, CJ

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      After the second round Weaver was first in +\-

      ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

    • JUST ME says:

      Good point CJ because in bringing the very well deserved example of Eller you also make us think about those who have saved their season and their stay with the Habs like him ,like Bourque and Briere who we were all considering seeing them go at one point of the season. Glad we did not so far !

    • JohnInTruro says:

      CJ I actually knew who you were talking about, didn’t even need to think about it. Not trying to take any credit away, because it’s awesome and good to see. I’m am Eller fan and confidence is everything. He needs more ice though, specifically PP.

      • CJ says:

        Agreed completely. He and Bourque are going right now. They should be getting 18:00-20:00 minutes a night, not Gionta and Pleks. I’d have Eller with Bourque and Chucky as the second line, followed by Gio-Pleks-Bournival as the number 3.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      But, but, in Francois Gagnon’s game grades he says Desharnais was “Encore le meilleur centre du Canadien, …”

      I sense a disconnect between you and Francois. What gives??

  21. frontenac1 says:

    Ah yes. Cassie looking fine tonight.

  22. donmarco says:

    Even on mute, PJ Stock is an idiot. Can’t wait for G6 and the passion of RDS.

  23. Danno says:

    Ranger scum

    John Moore – Who Is He Again?


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  24. Old Bald Bird says:

    I am not trying to be cruel, but what is up with Nilan? Has he had some sort of oral surgery? I feel like we should chip in to buy him dentures.

    • JUST ME says:

      He did have oral surgery a few weeks ago with bone transplant in his mouth and removal of teeth… Can do Radio but still hurts and i suppose must be tired to eat liquid…

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      I would assume he had the same procedure as my uncle, your teeth get removed and metal gets connected to the bone within he gums. The gums have to heal before artificial teeth can be connected to the metal. Very painful surgery.

      Also, once complete, if he were to have an impact to his teeth it would not dislodge a tooth in the traditional manner, the metal that connects the teeth to the bone would also come with the tooth destroying the bone beneath.

      ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      Bone Augmentation Dental Implants is the medical terminology.

      ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

  25. Ian Cobb says:

    Parade not to far away now!

  26. Habitant in Surrey says:


    ‘Stephen Hawking Breaks Down England’s World Cup Odds’

    …among other factors;

    …England plays better while wearing red

    …The team’s most successful formation is 4-3-3

    …They don’t play well if the weather is warm

    …WAGs don’t affect the outcome of their matches

    …They need a European ref to officiate, as they are normally less sympathetic to “ballerinas like Suarez” (his words)

    …Bald and fair-haired players are more likely to score penalties

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

    Campaign to Retire Toe Blake’s Number 6 !!!

    …and, last, but not least:

    …MARCH 25, 2014 AT 7:54 AM; “Finding every way to stir up sh.. is pretty much my job” description.

    Mike Boone
    Hockey Inside/Out blogger

    • habsfan0 says:

      He didn’t mention anything about English players diving more than the opposition?

      • Mr. Biter says:

        No that honor goes to the Italians. Touch them on the pitch and they act like they were shot AK47 and knocking on Heaven’s Door. 30 seconds later after the trainer has poured water from the water bottle on the injured leg they’re running full tilt down the field. We used to call it the “Magic Italian Elixir”

        Mr. Biter
        No Guts No Glory

  27. johnnylarue says:

    For anyone who can’t be bothered to read Kerry Fraser’s column, he ends the Prust vs Moore suspension discussion with the following luminous bullet points, which I share with you to vindicate my own feelings on the matter:

    Based on the seriousness and potential consequences of any illegal contact to the head, I offer the following recommendations:

    – There should absolutely be no minor penalty option once the referee deems an illegal check to the head has been committed.

    – Only a major and game misconduct or match penalty should be assessed for an illegal check to the head.

    – Eliminate the fine line margin of tolerance and thinking that exists between “main point of contact” to the head for the referees to determine an illegal check to the head and for suspension purpose. If contact to the head of an opponent is “significant” through an elevated hit or otherwise, it should be judged as an illegal check to the head. Place the onus on the player making the hit to do so responsibly.

    – Keep players’ skates on the ice through a hit.

    – Hold players accountable for their poor decisions that result in significant contact to an opponent’s head with meaningful suspensions; beyond just two games.

    – Rule on the violence of the act and not the result; namely the presence or extent of injury.

  28. JF says:

    I’m a bit surprised that Jack Todd is so convinced the Habs will come back and win the series. It’s true we have some momentum now, but we’re still trailing. We still have to win in New York tomorrow. But Todd was one of the few sports people who thought we’d beat the Bruins, so….

    What worries me is goaltending. Tokarski has been very good, but he does give up the odd soft goal. That first one last night was one he definitely should have stopped. It ended up not mattering, and Tokarski is good at shaking off a bad goal or a flurry of goals. But he can’t be giving the Rangers anything tomorrow night. I expect Lundqvist to be his usual self and the game to be a much tighter, more defensive one with a low score. One bad goal could end up being the difference. Our guys will have to do a better job of protecting Tokarski and not giving the Rags any wide open looks.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Jane, you and I have the same worry. Without Price we’ll have to play a very passive road game tomorrow and another 2-1, 3-2 game is likely. I’d sure feel a lot better with Price in net.

      • JF says:

        So would I. A healthy Price who has played a couple of games since the injury. If it were even possible to start him tomorrow, I’m not sure I would. We’ll just have to hope Tokarski is absolutely focused and that we give him a few goals to work with.

    • JohnBellyful says:

      What is encouraging, though, is how the team was able to keep the Rangers from getting a shot on net until well into each of the three periods.
      And, as you say, Tokarski’s ability to buckle down after yielding a questionable goal, a trait his mates have recognized and so aren’t discouraged or as deflated when it happens, as I suspect they would be if it had been Budaj who gave up a softie.

  29. piter says:

    So I read that the League looked at the cross check Bork gave that f’er Dorsett at the end of the game. They also looked at the head butt Dorsett gave Weaver. They decided no supplemental discipline. It was obvious Dorsett had a chip on his shoulder from before the game even started(snow shower). With everything he did last night, including the hit, and all the crap at the end of the game, you would think it was worth more than 2 games suspension. He was in total predator mode. I realize none of the other stuff was suspendable, but in conjunction with all the other crap, it should all be included in the decision. How can they possibly explain the head butt away anyways? I sure would love to hear an explanation of that! I thought the new Player safety rep would be better than the old one. Same old, same old.

    • Commandant says:

      On one hand I’m glad Dorsett will stay in the lineup, cause the guy is a liability. On the other hand the NHL has made it open season for headbutts with this ruling.

      Just look at all the spears (Perry, Crosby, Markov) that occured after the Lucic spear was not suspendable.

      Go Habs Go!


      • piter says:

        You are right about having him staying in the games. I’m sure Prust will have a talk with him on Thursday. If you look at a replay of the Bork crosscheck at the end of the game, the crosscheck hit Dorsett in the chest, and he “flung” his head back. Embellishment? I think so. Watch it. Sorry, I don’t have a link.

      • montreal ace says:

        Spot on, it’s open season on stars and players who are playing well. I am tired of seeing guys deliberately taking players out, that’s not hard hockey, it’s hard crime with no place in sport

      • piter says:

        You are also right about the spears. Open season after the first one goes un-penalized. Same goes for the squirting of the water bottles, it’s getting out of hand. Just joking, good point on the spears though.

      • frontenac1 says:

        Dorsett is a pussy punk that can’t can’t fight. He is protected by The Instigator Rule.

  30. Danno says:

    Joannie dancing on RDS’s Le 5 a 7. Easy on the eyes.


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  31. Captain aHab says:

    Renaud Lavoie seems to be saying Weise is officially concussed. Is that the case? I mean I know he was but will he officially be out?

    Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

  32. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Prefer Dorsett in the line-up so when Prust pounds him, the Rangers/crowd shut up and the Habs gain momentum.

    • CJ says:

      Dorsett is fixing to get lit up. If not by Prust tomorrow night, you can bet Tinordi will give him a beat down next year. Having watched Nevins and Crisp fight, Dorsett might want to consider that getting off easy.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      From “everything that you want to get out of the game” to ““It probably warrants the penalty that was given on the ice. Other than that, I don’t see what else it could warrant,” in 4 days.

      Utterly shameless.

      Moving. Forward.

      • ffenliv says:

        Of course it’s shameless. It’s not his job to have shame. It’s his job to manage, among other things, media, as the guy that talks to them the most.

        People who think coaches are going to call out their players are off their rockers.

        All coaches do it. And all fans put up with it, until it’s in opposition to their own team. I slam-dunk guarantee id Claude Julien’s coaching career had seen him still in Montreal, we’d all be lapping up the stuff he says.

  33. gumper says:

    Two games for Moore.

    The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.
    Mark Twain

  34. Un Canadien errant says:

    I don’t really enjoy televised tennis any more. I can’t help but think how much better it would be if indeed Kramer was the ball boy.

    My sources are unreliable, but their info is fascinating.–Woody Paige


  35. habs001 says:

    Habs need 2 games from Vanek where he is not noticed on the ice but has 2G 1A scorecard after each game. .He is due for a huge production streak….

  36. Danno says:

    How come that punk Derek Door Knob gets nothing for his head butt on Weaver and for his unsportmanlike snowing of the flag kid?

    Gary Buttman justice.


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  37. TheCanadianDagger says:

    I did it again, I read some comments on TSN. WHY!

    “Price is a mediocre goalie at best.”
    “Habs would likely be leading this series, if not already won it, if they had Dubnyk in from the get go”
    “Putting Price in is a guaranteed loss. They guy can’t win big games.”

    Where’s Front? I need a drink…

  38. mdp2011 says:


    Paul Hollingsworth ‏@PaulHReporter1 52s
    Six million viewers on English & RDS combined last night combined for Habs/NYR

  39. habs001 says:

    Funny when you read other teams blogs there are just as many posters as here who believe that the NHL is biased vs their team…

  40. Hobie says:

    We now get to see Diaz crushed in the corner all night tomorrow, cool.

  41. songles says:

    I guess this means the triumphant return of Raphael.

  42. frontenac1 says:

    Moore gets 2 Games! Adios!Get yer Golf Clubs out!

  43. PK says:

    Not having Moore for the next two games may have some impact on the Rags … Diaz plays(?).
    Good to have Dorsett on the ice so that he can take untimely penalties, no?

    >>>>> Les Canadiens sont là

  44. Un Quebecois en Ontario says:

    yep, just out on NHL.com, 2 games for Moore

  45. habcertain says:

    2 games for Moore

  46. sprague cleghorn says:

    2 games for Moore.

    … ‘ow could we forget that?

  47. Cal says:

    Good and fun show. Knuckles talking about Eller near the end was funny as all get out! Keep ’em coming, Stu & Co.

    On a sad note, the great Maya Angelou passed today. The world has lost an important voice, yet her words will live on.
    Like these:

    Still I Rise

    You may write me down in history
    With your bitter, twisted lies,
    You may trod me in the very dirt
    But still, like dust, I’ll rise.

    Does my sassiness upset you?
    Why are you beset with gloom?
    ‘Cause I walk like I’ve got oil wells
    Pumping in my living room.

    Just like moons and like suns,
    With the certainty of tides,
    Just like hopes springing high,
    Still I’ll rise.

    Did you want to see me broken?
    Bowed head and lowered eyes?
    Shoulders falling down like teardrops.
    Weakened by my soulful cries.

    Does my haughtiness offend you?
    Don’t you take it awful hard
    ‘Cause I laugh like I’ve got gold mines
    Diggin’ in my own back yard.

    You may shoot me with your words,
    You may cut me with your eyes,
    You may kill me with your hatefulness,
    But still, like air, I’ll rise.

    Does my sexiness upset you?
    Does it come as a surprise
    That I dance like I’ve got diamonds
    At the meeting of my thighs?

    Out of the huts of history’s shame
    I rise
    Up from a past that’s rooted in pain
    I rise
    I’m a black ocean, leaping and wide,
    Welling and swelling I bear in the tide.
    Leaving behind nights of terror and fear
    I rise
    Into a daybreak that’s wondrously clear
    I rise
    Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave,
    I am the dream and the hope of the slave.
    I rise
    I rise
    I rise.

    • frontenac1 says:

      Cal. I just heard of her Last year during that whole crazy shooting of that Lad down in Fla. She spoke on TV. I was floored. The World has lost a brilliant human being. Saludos.

  48. Dunboyne Mike says:

    I am trying hard to resist conspiracy theories, to which I am susceptible. But if the NHL suspends Bourque, then I will have no resistance left and will believe whole-heartedly that Bettman (separated from Simon Cowell at birth) is attempting to manufacture a reality out of his nocturnal emission: a NY-LA final.

    • sprague cleghorn says:

      Renaud Lavoie ‏@renlavoietva 41m

      No fine / suspension for #rangers Derek Dorsett and #canadiens Rene Bourque.

      … ‘ow could we forget that?

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Thanks, SC. Skin-Bracer commercial moment for me.

        And hey COOL: headbutts are allowed!

        • D Mex says:

          Blind-sides are back on the menu as well.
          Who knew ?

          ALWAYS Habs –
          D Mex

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            And that great classic, the stanchion shot.

            If you don’t like it, go watch curling!

          • D Mex says:

            Kind of you not to point out my gaffe in mixing the blindside with Dorsett’s name. Tough to keep all of the opposing moar-ons straight at times.
            Looks like Moore got 2 or, as Lucic likes to call it, a pair.

            ALWAYS Habs –
            D Mex

        • frontenac1 says:

          I’m glad that pussy punk Dorsett will be playing next game. Prust will tune him up again.

    • Luke says:

      I do believe they have stated nothing will come of the Bourque cross-check or the Dorsett helmet malfunction.

    • Fansincebirth says:

      Nothing additional for Bourque or (surprise) Dorsett.

      My guess is they are trying to do damage control when they announce nothing further for Moore!

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Has Bourque been scheduled a meeting? I haven’t heard that. Perhaps a fine is being discussed? There was a spear from Dorsett as ge skated by Bourque. His intent was to goat Bourque. It worked.

    • johnnylarue says:

      No hearing for Bourque, ‘Boyner.

      No hearing? No problem.

      Plus, you don’t really think Bettman would risk his reputation as the Greatest Commissioner of All Time by meddling with the outcome of a playoff series, do you?

  49. Dunboyne Mike says:


    Just back from collecting daughter from a suburban shopping centre bus-terminus. Spotted a pedestrian in a Rangers cap — NHL paraphernalia is extremely rare here. Picked up daughter, apologised to her in advance (they hate when I do this), circled back, tracked the pedestrian, pulled up, honked, opened window, locked and loaded for banter. Then:

    “Who’s that, now?”
    “No, you don’t know me. But this!” I pull on the CH on my sweater.
    So I point at the cap.
    “Ah, me hat. Is it the hat you like?”
    “NO!” I pound my two fists together. “Montreal-New York!”
    Still nothing. Daughter has now concealed herself in the glove box.
    “Not the hat?”
    “Hockey. ICE. Hockey.”
    “Oh right.”
    I wave cheerily, vainly hoping to restore his faith in humanity, drive off, daughter refusing to speak to me.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Absolutely funny stuff!

      You sir acted in an exemplary fashion. And one day your daughter will be proud of having been there with you in that moment…or NOT!

    • Luke says:

      She refused to speak to you because tugging on the CH is disrespectful and embarassing to the sport.


      alright, I gotta go have a beerssssssssssssss

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Great story Mike! I must tell you eventually your children will surrender and accept all of your quirks. Mine have. At least I think they have. CHeers!

      • Stuck_in_To. says:

        LOL! Do you remember being a child … I’m about half way between with a father 30 years my senior and a son 32 years my junior. My father is nuts and my kid is wholly embarrassed with everything I stand for … my juggling skills are lights out!

        I think they get together and talk about me ….

    • johnnylarue says:

      Typical Rangers fan.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        He just kept smiling in that lobotimized way….

        • Un Quebecois en Ontario says:

          I recently was travelling in the Philippines, and saw a local with a Habs t-shirt in downtown Manilla. I was so freaking excited I ran up to him to shake his hand, hug him and what not. Until I got the same blank stare when I mentioned the Habs. Some cousin of his living in MTL had sent him the t-shirt or something.

          Oh well.

          Once, in Israel though, walking around with my Habs t-shirt, an Isreali guy approached and said he had played for the Israeli national hockey team (yes it exists) under Jean Perron! How crazy!

  50. Ton says:

    suspension handed out yet?

  51. Habcouver says:

    Another incredible segment, Stu. However, you failed to give your own prediction. What you say! 🙂

    We Are (Not) All Canucks.
    Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

  52. D Man says:

    In the snow shower incident it’s nice to see Zuccarello react by offering help to the kid. Not all Rangers are like Dorsett thank god.

    You can’t be both a Habs and a Leafs fan

  53. CJ says:

    So, just for the record, I am taking back my public apology regarding Stepan. I knew he would play again this series. My only surprise is that he missed a game. Punk!

    If I didn’t dislike the Rangers before, I sure as heck hate them now. I can’t wait to wipe that smug look off of Pouliot’s face Thursday night. And, while we are discussing Ranger players, sorry, but I’m pretty well fed up with the talk surrounding St. Louis. Sure, he’s a great player, but he’s not on my team, so he can take a long walk off of a short pier for all I care.

    Lastly, King Henry. What do they say in New York…. fo get a boot it (all one word I guess). I’m sick of him too, more so the CBC panel, who are like little dogs following this guy around. He stunk last night PJ, get it?

    Sorry, one final thing (it’s still going to be shorter then a New York minute), Dorsett, keep your head up. You might be able to run around right now, but going forward, Tinordi is going to get you. Big 24 is watching. Nate was fiery last night too. I watched him try to get a fight following a scrum. It’s a dog eat dog world these playoffs and I’d be prepared for anything on Thursday night. If the Rangers are going down, they are going to be greasier then an episode of the Trailer Park Boys……


    • habstrinifan says:

      I am PROUD to be your associate my friend. Great Rant!

    • Timo says:

      He was trying to get D Moore into a fight… I think he would have taken him too. Rangers are a bunch of chickens… Oh, and how I agree with you regarding St Louis, CJ.

    • Habfan17 says:

      Hey CJ,

      Dorsett is the one I have zero respect for. Starting by giving it to the kids at the opening ceremony, the head butt, trying to start something with Bourque at the end, he is a loser! Moore is not far behind!!


    • Habs4LifeInTO says:

      Nice “Trailer Park Boys” reference. I miss that show…I have developed a good hate for the rangers too. Didn’t mind them during regular season but now after all the crap they’ve pulled….I called the Marty St.Louis love fest on CBC even before the series started. I am as sick of him and his team as I am of that Apple commercial….Gigantic (hate towards the rangers)!!
      Go Habs Go!!

      24 cups and counting….

    • Wintercount says:

      Thought Beaulieu acted like a little arse dancing with Moore, playing to the crowd.

  54. Bigdawg says:

    When my kid takes the ice

    I will ask him to deliver…

    One shot to the NARDS
    and make sure to FINGER the crowd

    …on every play

    Because that’s the LEGAL way to play

  55. D Mex says:


    That little fella looks about 4 years old – what a great memory of his on-ice ‘ moment ‘ with the Habs and Rangers before game 5, huh ?

    If that is my son, I am at the Centre Sheraton after the game last night looking for a little face time with Sather, downtown at the Bell Centre this morning, on the phone with the NHL head office today, or all of the above.

    Just when I thought Thornton’s water fun was as dumb as it gets, this comes along.
    No way does this one disappear quietly – no way.

    ALWAYS Habs –
    D Mex

    • habcertain says:

      Cherry is all over it, expect big things! Not

      • D Mex says:

        Cherry was chuckling about it.
        To his credit, MacLean was not.

        Nothing but possibilities with this, with the best-case scenario for Mr Dorsett and his team that he apologize – publicly – ASAP.

        Call it buffoonery, bullying, whatever you want, but that little fella is tiny and, if he had as much as a bruise on his hind parts after falling there, I am calling a law office with ties to NYC, and Dorsett is served with ‘ documents ‘ before game 6. That simple.

        Then, it gets leaked to the media.

        ALWAYS Habs –
        D Mex

  56. habstrinifan says:

    Hate to be a worry wart. But I think the posters who talk about MSG ice have a point.

    I havent really played hockey so I am lost here. Is it overreaction for a coach to adjust some ‘plays’ to compensate for bad ice.

    I know both teams have to play on the ice. But I think bad ice puts the visitor team at a greater disadvantage. Habs have seemed very affected by the ice at MSG so far.

    It may be hard to coordinate stretch passes. It would seem that one or two players would have to hold on to the puck ‘longer’ when the ice is as bad. Three players come to mind. Eller; P.K.; Beaulieau (all good puck possession guys) should not be afraid to lug the puck ‘a tiny bit longer.’

    Maybe I’m all wrong and dump and chase is the way to get around bad ice.

    What is the better strategy?
    The more passes (including those short reverse pass the Habs like to make) in their own end could be a recipe for disaster.

    How best to combat really bad ice, which MSG will be. MSG ice scares me for game 6.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Normally I’d agree with you about the visiting team but the Rangers play a speed;transition game and the poor ice seems to be a big issue with that style of play. I’m not sure this is such a big deal for the Habs. I sure hope not anyway.

      • habstrinifan says:

        HABS game tends to have a lot of space between the defense and the forwards and rely on the ‘stretch pass’ to make the connection. Also on defense the quick flick back pass to the ‘free’ defenseman is often used. Two type plays which could go awry with bad ice.

        • Habfan10912 says:

          Very true Trini but, and I hate to say this, Therrien forced this team to play a grinding style this season and the results have been pretty good. I guess that’s what I’m saying, that the team can play a more slow tempo tight checking game. Fingers crossed.

    • Cal says:

      More north south play. Less long, diagonal passes up the ice. More straight carrying the puck up through the neutral zone. Simple, short passes in the offensive zone with one-timer shots in mind.
      All this because the puck will not settle on the ice for long.

  57. Timo says:

    Is the league still trying to figure out how to word the “no suspension” ruling so that it appears legit?

  58. Mavid ® says:

    Off to NJ for some drag racing leaving tomorow and returning sunday..hopefully with a team that is headed for the SCF…I am all set wifi at the campground..tablet loaded up with some US data..GO HABS GO!!

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  59. Luke says:

    ‘Member when I said Clapton was a no-talent hack (he is) and Bill popped a blood vessel in his eye?

    I miss Bill.

    • frontenac1 says:

      Clapton was great, until he sold out. His last good album was Derek and The Dominoes. Last album for Duane Allman too. Man, I loved the way Duane played.

      • Luke says:

        Dickey Betts, too.

        Man, the Allmans could tear it up.

      • D Mex says:

        Clapton – ” sold out ” ?
        Where could this possibly come from ?
        The guy is a talent – unplugged, plugged in, name it …

        ALWAYS Habs –
        D Mex

        • frontenac1 says:

          Yardbirds, Cream,Derek and the Dominoes. His best stuff. Sold out after Re-Hab.Saw him in the 80″s. Disapointed,big time. Keith, Lemme, Halford, Billy Gibbons,Jonny Cash,always kept it True.

          • Luke says:

            I saw him in Toronto on the From Ther Cradle tour, the album that followed UNplugged.

            I was never a big fan, more of an SRV fan, but Jimmie Vaughan was opening,& I went with buddies who were huge Claption fans.

            I was open minded. I was ready to be won over. We had just seen BB King, Buddy Guy, Eric John$on and teh Alligator all-stars.
            I was ready to let Clapton woo me.

            He wouldn’t play any of his older songs, just the new stuff. He lectured the crowd, he wasrude. His act was laughingly short and he wasn’t very entertaining.

            “If you’ve come to hear me play my older songs, you’ve come to the wrong show.”

            Should have mentioned that when you announced the concert. About 15,000 people would have saved some cash.

          • frontenac1 says:

            Exactly amigo. Clapton, Hendrix, Duane, we’re my favourites in High School. 2 died, 1 Sold out.

          • D Mex says:

            Well, I haven’t had the pleasure of seeing him live, but his music has been so good for so long.
            The story behind Tears in Heaven is very sad – don’t know where that fits into the rehab / sold out chronology, but he is one artist I’d love to hear – and watch – live.

            ALWAYS Habs –
            D Mex

    • Paz says:

      saying that Clapton is a hack is like saying Crosby is a crap hockey player. you’re free to say it, but you sound like an idiot. no offence.

      • Luke says:

        It was part of a rolling day long musical conversation that included such interesting questions as “I just don’t GET Pink Floyd. Someone explain their relevance to me?”

        I was surprised people agreed with me.

        [and of course, “no talent hack” is being somewhat hyperbolic. (but not by much)].

        It’s probably somewhere in that 3,500 post “Ryan White Signs” thread.

  60. Lafleurguy says:

    How close did we come to having a Leafian melt-down?

  61. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Maybe we don’t need an NHL ruling on snowing little kids if, in this case, the kid’s Dad is a Tony Soprano-type individual.

  62. UKRAINIANhab says:

    In other news I had a chocolate Putin today…

    It was delicious.

  63. Luke says:

    Oh, Bob Dylan… what happened?

    How long ago did it happen? And why hasn’t anyone let you know that it happened?

  64. habcertain says:

    Looks like we may see Diaz……don’t like that omen

    • johnnylarue says:

      If there’s one former Hab I am absolutely not concerned about meeting in the playoffs, it’s “Raffa” Diaz.

      (Having said that, rest assured that I have touched every wooden surface within my reach… just to be safe.)

  65. shiram says:

    After re-watching the footage of Plekanec’s embellishment penalty, it seems pretty clear to me it is Plekanec own stick that hits him in the face, though it was forced up there by the Rangers stick.


    You can clearly see there he only react after his own stick gets to his face.

    • habcertain says:

      After the game before, it is not cool, didn’t see anything hit is face, his own stick gets close and he does the head jerk for no reason

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Post-humorously, the penalty-leading-to-the-tying-goal created more drama in the already drama-filled game, and allowed Bourquezilla to show how vast his sniping skills are. Rene Whipping Boy is a tremendous boon to this team.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Living on the right-hand side of the Atlantic, I absolutely share the paranoia concerning soccer culture’s acceptance of diving (and writhing and grimacing and rolling etc) and of early signs of its importation to hockey. What a blight it is on “the beautiful game” (which I am unable to stomach despite its supposed beauty — with apologies to its many fans on this site!).

      That said, I don’t believe Pleks is a diver, nor do I believe he deserved a penalty last night. Ask someone to hit you in the face with a stick-blade some time in the next 24 hours, when you’re not expecting it. See if you can ignore it or not flinch.

      I think that’s all he did! Flinch. Human nature.

    • UKRAINIANhab says:

      Thats how I saw it. Looked like his own stick hurt him.. Idrc though time to move past it. Plekanec played much better – that penalty

    • ffenliv says:

      I’m still not sold on Plex taking any stick – even his own there. That replay shows his stick coming near his face, but no proof that it actually hit him. Even if it did, he’s not stupid, he KNEW it was his own stick, the Ranger player’s stick was long gone.

      I’m glad he score an ( at the time) important goal, and had a decent game, but that sequence was an embarrassment.

    • Forum Dog says:

      I think that’s a reach. He was trying to draw a high sticking call. He embellished. He got caught and deserved the penalty. Especially after he specifically was called out the game prior. A dumb move on his part, but Habs still win.

      He played a better game though, and they’ll need that again tomorrow night.

      • Luke says:

        Yah, I’m going to have to go ahead and agree with the Forum Dog on this one.

        Caught and busted.

      • shiram says:

        I’m not dismissing the call on the ice, and I agree I would much prefer not see him do those kind of things.
        I just thought embellishing his own stick to his face was funny.

        • Forum Dog says:

          It definitely was funny. Might not have been if the Rags ended up completing the comeback though. I would say that Tommy P owes Bourque a beer….

  66. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Sorry if this has been posted already, but it’s all 3 Dorsett episodes on one page.


    Does anyone know if dropping the gloves after the final whistle gets an automatic suspension? Or what’s the rule about head-butting?

    There is probably no rule covering snow-spraying little kids. However, it has conveniently permitted Dorsett to announce to everyone who didn’t know it already: “I am a richard head”.

  67. 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

    “He was admiring his pass”

    HIO Commentariat, I ask that this phrase for ever be banned from the lexicon, unless it is used sarcastically. This phrase has been used to justify blind side goonery, as though the passer should activate a jetpack the second the puck leaves his stick.

    The passer (in this case Weise, is not admiring his pass, he is making sure that a) it was accepted and b) that he can read what the player is going to do next (expect Weise to take a drop pass in the middle?) and re-act accordingly.

    Saying it is ok to hit him in the head because he was admiring his pass is absolute BS.

    “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

  68. Mattyleg says:

    I am aware that this thread is open.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  69. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Ovechkin snows kid up 3-1, habs win series 4-3

    Dorsett snows kid up 3-1, habs win series 4-3 book it

  70. Alex_425 says:

    The only thing I care about with “wild games” is the “w”.

  71. Ian Cobb says:

    Ian Grant Cobb shared Graham Cobb’s photo.
    25 minutes ago
    Go Hab’s Go, from my front lawn! Ian
    Go has go — with Ian Grant Cobb.

  72. HabinBurlington says:


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