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Hockey Hall of Fame writer Michael Farber, now with Sports Illustrated, TSN and NBC, joins The Gazette’s Pat Hickey and sports editor Stu Cowan to discuss the Habs.
In penalty-kill and end-of-game [where the other team pulls their goalie] situations – chances are the other team will have the puck. And when the other team has the puck – P K Subban is not sure of himself [don’t believe me: when the other team has the puck – don’t watch the puck – watch P K Subban]. The coaches know what they’re doing when they limit P K Subban’s ice time in penalty-kill and end-of-game [where the other team pulls their goalie] situations.
can anybody name the last time the norris trophy winner was not good enough for the olympics? (world cup or canada cup) this would be a first if norris trophy winner PK Subban was left off the team.
says here that stevie y already has PK as a lock, and the tsn groupies are filling air time.
If anyone is still around: new thread
For the Star Wars fans here.
Bold Prediction: PK does not get picked for Team Canada. Babcock will want the D to play D. PK is an offensive Dman Sorry PK followers.
He was on TSN earlier today talking about wanting 3 lefties and 3 righties if possible.
Would be a bold prediction if it didn’t come straight from the TSN Olympic Team forecast show that just aired.
BTW, I think TSN and you will be wrong in your predictions.
I used the same reasoning about PK time for PK this AM in the ALN thread. Maybe Babcock read it
You may be right. Dreger may be right. I just can’t see a dynamic, game breaker like Subban not making Team Canada. It would be a mistake.
Hmm, I can’t say PK is a lock because there are so many good D for Canada, but PK is excellent in every zone and is one of the top D in the world. I’ll be surprised if he does not get picked.
Hockey sine stercore tauri.
@Ian. Hang in there amigo!
…just got home from the doctor’s …thought there would be nothing here but some of the nonsense discussed about PK this morning …but, wow !, great interview on a range of interesting subjects between Stu, Pat and Farber
…and, aesthetically speaking, was sure relieved Hickey sprung for a haircut
I might have to wrap my head around the Leafs being for real. It is freaking me out!
Good goaltending and good specialty teams, and an unreal goals/shots percentage.
Typical Leaf game, being outshot 20 – 7 with a two nothing lead
Reports. Av”s Varlamov turns himself into police for domestic Violence charges.
Patrick Roy IS his coach.
OOh..that’s dark… made me chuckle.
I confess so did I.
…I have a distinct gut instinct that Patrick will be quite tolerant of Varlamov in this situation
Brilliant JB. Ian, keep your head up old timer, there’s better days ahead!!!
I have a feeling the Habs will start off November on a winning note!!
Re the KHL story below, here is the TSN version. Last paragraph tells this tale “The KHL comprises 28 teams from eight countries.”
John the BELLYFUL, rides again with his wit!
How are you feeling Ian?
Terrible thanks, passing enough kidney gravel every 15min to pave a new lane on the 401. Sharp little razor blades.
Had it only the once several years back. Hopefully never again.
All the best Ian, hope you are through the worst of it.
…those little morphine pills made kidney stones phantasmagorical for Me Ian …hope You are through the worst part
Get well soon buddy.
Ian, can you soothe the pain with a single malt or something similar? (I mean is it permitted?)
Cheers and get well.
Hope the paving of the urinal tract soon comes to an end
Remember what the wise say when things look bad: This too shall pass.
Here is hoping for a speedy recovery for you Ian. Nice to see you drop by but am not sure that this is the best place to boost the moral here even if the team is doing well.
I was working in the lab late last night, when Igor finally returned from his assignment.
He shuffled into the room with his unnatural gait, gripping the end of a huge duffel bag that hung over his hump.
“You got everything I marked down on the list?”
“Yes, Herr Doktor, everything you had on the list, I marked off. Including Markov.”
“You have done well, Igor. Now let us begin.”
Igor did as he was told and begin carrying out the other preparations I had planned in advance to ensure the success of my mission: to rebuild the Canadiens IN ONE NIGHT!
They called me mad, the fools, but it is I who will have the last laugh, and they will be singing my praises for generations to come. Nay, more – centuries!
I busied myself getting the instruments and equipment in place while Igor plugged the array of energy units into the power bar – gas-powered generators, car batteries, lunar panels, nuclear fuel rods, a microhydroelectric station attached to the faucet in the sink. The last was Igor himself, rapidly rubbing his socked feet along the dry carpet.
My experiment would not fail for lack of power.
“Dim the lights, please, Igor, we need all the electricity we can muster, and start handing me the … pieces of the puzzle.”
I could not make out his face as he stood in the shadows, nor his arm as he reached inside the bag. What little illumination there was in the room, cast by a torch I had lighted – did you expect anything else? – formed a not-so-large circle on the bed.
Energy was to be preserved, not wasted on the likes of Igor or myself.
“Let’s start with the torso.”
And so it was begun, the making of uberHab – the greatest hockey player the world would ever know, combining the speed of a Bournival, the brawn of a Murray, the savvy of a Markov, the dazzling moves of a Subban, the fearlessness of a Gallagher, and the reflexes of a Price.
Mad, am I? Mad? MAD? Hah, I spit on your shoes!
Wait until they behold BouRayIceGallSubKov.
IceBouRayGallKovSub. That’s it!
IceBouRayGallKovSub The Magnificent.
The league will tremble at his sight.
The hours raced by as I sewed together each part limb by limb, cheek by jowl, mouth-to-mouth – whew, that was close, only need one, you know.
When I was done I attached electrodes all over the assembled flesh.
At last I was ready to give life to my creation.
“Igor, turn on the switch!”
Igor turned on the faucet and pressed the power bar’s on button.
A thrum filled the room, growing louder with each second, the devices moving steadily toward releasing the full discharge of their capacity.
IceBouRayGallKovSub moved not all.
“Igor, more electricity. MORE!!!
Igor feet slid his feet back and forth, faster and faster, a demon possessed.
An eyelid twitched. A finger curled. A nostril flared.
“Look! It’s moving. It’s alive. It’s alive… It’s alive, it’s moving, it’s alive.”
I danced around in circles, hands stretched high overhead.
“It’s alive, it’s alive, it’s alive, IT’S ALIVE!”
It was alive. But it was no IceBouRayGallKovSub.
In the full light I could tell it was a … mess – possessing the speed of a Desharnais, the brawn of a Gionta, the savvy of a Drewiske, the dazzling moves of a Gorges, the fearlessness of a Diaz, and the reflexes of a Moen.
“Igor, you idiot, didn’t you buy a program before you went about snatching bodies!!!?”
“Herr Doktor, the programs cost five bucks! FIVE BUCKS! I just went with my memory of what the players look like. Remember, when you got first got this idea, you took me to the exhibition game, and you bought me the popcorn, and
Oh, I was mad. Not the stark, raving mad they think I am, but angry mad.
And getting a little annoyed. UnterHab kept crashing into the equipment, going around circles, leaving his man uncovered.
There was nothing left to do but to clean him up, dress him, and send him down to the American Hockey League.
And send an anonymous note to the Canadiens letting them know they have some roster spots to fill.
The JB Halloween Special. I can’t wait for the Christas Special.
Nice work bud.
as always, incomparable wit fit for the Halloween.
Do you think we’ll miss the UnterHab now that you’re sending him down to AHL?
One of my favorite movie lines of all time;
So your saying you made a Blunder? I mean Blunden?
One must bow to the master. 😆
And folks think I’m nuts…
I woulda replied sooner but I had to sign off right after I posted.
(Those Halloween booby traps don’t set themselves, you know.)
Hoist by your own canard?
I was leaving it for Timo, but since he’s asleep at the switch, I’ll slide this one home.
Maybe we can register unterHab in Michel Therrien’s Personal Development Program?…
… you know, because there’s no way hundreds of overcompetitive stars with massive egos would ever cheat to gain an edge with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake.–Bill Simmons
Love Michael Farber. Nice get.
80’s Oilers dynasty. Buncha dummies. Love it.
Kinda fits too, seeing as how they’re the ones running the Oilers into the ground right now…
KHL expanding into Finland;
Jokerit was announced back in the summer, so it is nice to see it confirmed. Potentially a blow for the Super-Liiga: Jokerit, although they’ve fallen on harder times of late, has long been one of the marquee teams in Europe.
Keep an eye on some of the powerhouse teams in Sweden: Frolunda (Collberg’s team), Farjestad, HV71, Linkopings, and Djurgardens are all nosing around leaving the Swedish Elite League. A new pan-Scandinavian league is a possibility, but so is admission of one or all teams into the KHL in future years. Thus far, the Swedish Ice Hockey Federation has blocked AIK from joining the KHL, but it might be a matter of time before one or more of the Swedish teams bolt for the larger league. If that happens, I expect you might see the flood-gates open, as top teams in Switzerland, Germany, and France consider joining the KHL as well.
They either have to go to a Super Elite European League or wait for the KHL to slowly swallow then up.
Agree, will be interesting to watch play out. If indeed the KHL strikes iron first and starts getting other countries to join, I wonder if any chance they change the leagues name? Somehow I get the impression as long as Putin is in charge, that league remains KHL regardless how many teams from other countries join.
The K stands for Continental so perhaps they already have that covered.
Good point, I guess the K is what stands out to me as a Russian sounding league, as opposed to sounding like a European league.
HabsWorld and their top prospects 6-10;
Seriously what is up with all this talk over PK and his ice time? Or him “not being himself” the past few games?
Okay the guy hasn’t been putting up 2-3 points a night or scoring any signature clappers but really? He is currently leading our team in points as well as all NHL defensemen! He also has the second most shots on our team behind only Gallagher. Now people are going to complain because he’s barely played any time on the PK? Or he may have played 23 mins instead of 27? Or he wasn’t on the ice for the last 2 mins of the game? NEWS FLASH: They just won back-to-back games!!! The team is winning with a depleted lineup!!!
PK is meant to be on the powerplay not the penalty kill. Guess where he ranks among all defensemen for total PP time: 2nd in the NHL with 60:38 mins!! Only 21 seconds less than Byfuglien.
Guess who’s leading the league in PK time: Chris Phillips with 56:47 mins. What is PK’s total you may ask: 13:13. What about the player that won the Norris before PK? Erik Karlson: 13:56!
It is very normal to not play players of that calibre on the PK. Do you really want them standing in front of one-timers and possible getting injured? No! They’re way to valuable to the team for that. That’s why the Chris Phillips’ of league play these minutes.
One final stat… Out of all defensemen in the NHL PK ranks 13th for total TOI with 319:17 mins (Markov is 7th with 325:25!!!!). For average TOI he’s ranked 20th.
It’s a long season and they have the Olympics to factor in. PK is playing great, getting plenty of ice time and the team is winning. Be happy!
Subban’s ice time and responsibilities should be compared to Chara and Shea Weber, the top “all around” dmen in the game.
Do you mean Shea Weber who has 1 pt in the last 4 games, and Chara who has 0 pts in the last 4 games, as compared to PK’s 0 pts in the last four games?
Yes PK is right up there with them…
what does that even mean??
Argeed with you, AceTen! Only these certain fans have a sense that Subban is an all-around defenseman, doing everything they think he’s capable of. 5-on-5, powerplays, penalty kills… they expected him to be a total package, which in my sense he’s not. Subban plays as he knows best, and Therrien understands that.
“in your sense”, the one that tells you Subban is not a total package, you are mistaken.
I hope to be mistaken, but if Subban does get some PK minutes, don’t blame him if the opposition score as many as he would score on the PP and getting him on the minus.
It’s almost Movember.
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I like almost 2 minutes of dead air in that clip above. There is something mysterious about it.
it’s almost Halloween! IMO hence the mystery Timo.
Hey, Timo. I have your t-shirt. Where do you want to meet?
He said and I quote “The beers are on me for who ever brings the t-shirt to me”
Go dry my friend 😉
Sound advice HabFab, enjoy your fill Jim!
I put this bit together in response to a post on the ALN. I then couldn’t find the post to respond to, so I posted it on its own. Then it turns out that post was the last one before the new thread went up. I found this interesting, maybe others won’t. Feel free to tell me off!
“I saw a post or two earlier about the rough November schedule with 4 back-to-backs for the boys. For some reason, I couldn’t find them again to respond to, but I’d already worked this up, so figured I’d just post it.
Of the 4 teams Montreal plays on the second night, 3 of those teams will also be on the second game of a back-to-back, and the other team (the Penguins, I think) will be playing a back-to-back the following night.
Also of the 3 teams in their second game in two nights, 2 are playing in either their second of third game of a stretch of four games in six nights.
So, when looking at the number of back-to-backs, it’s important to see how many times the other opponent is in a similar fix – or worse!”
For today only I am a fan of the Red Sox and Penguins.
Congratulations Matty and welcome to the worlds newest Habs fan.
” Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm ” – Winston Churchill
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Price is looking very good and hopefully remains focused…When Dallas started to forecheck and their d pinched the Habs had problems getting out of their zone…this has been a faitly common problem for the last few years…now the Habs blocked a lot of shots but too many point shot opportunities were given up and eventually some of these will start going in…Many of the Habs forwards have problems winning puck battles on the board…
I’ve always liked Michael Farber. Insightful, thoughtful, well-worded analysis seems to come easily him.
…storm the crease like bumblebees…
He’d never fit in here.
come on Ash, isn’t the commentariat is just that (Insightful, thoughtful, well-worded) to say the least? LOL
Joking aside, Farber is a great addition.
Matty: hearty CONGRATULATIONS to you and your wife and Welcome to the world Cordelia, wishing you a long, happy and prosperous life.
Enjoy the fatherhood to the max, however keep in mind Shane’s suggestion (hello Shane) for probably a bit later in life (I know it works)
That’s a nice name, Cordelia.
Thanks so much Ali!
Was fun seeing you at the summit!
And thanks Marshall, I’m glad you like it!
Hello from LAX. There’s a sports shop at the airport with clothing of all the local teams: lakers, dodgers, angels, Trojans, UCLA Bruins. No kings or Ducks. Just throwing it out the.
Another award winning show. I love when the personalities have the same pov as I do. Makes it easier to watch.
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Way to go Matty! Now get snipped and have a great life!
Shane! Beautiful people like Matty and his wife should fill the world with children. Ugly people like us should stop at 2 or 3.
That’s why I only have one 😀
Hi Jim from the left coast.
That’s the number where I had stopped too.
For us it was a economics thingy. I love my street and my house and didn’t want to move to bigger mortgage.
Plus hockey cost a fortune. I know families here that work extra jobs just to keep their kids in sports.
OK that’s funny.
Congrats Matty. Chosen a name yet?
Someone says Cordelia. Sweet name if correct.
Thanks Jim, that’s the moniker, alright!
Good seeing the two of you again, hope we can actually have a drink together next year!
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