A Happy Holidays episode of HI/O Show

Former Gazette sports columnist Michael Farber, who now works for Sports Illustrated and TSN, is the guest for our special Happy Holidays episode of the HI/O Show.

Farber joins Gazette columnist Dave Stubbs and sports editor/host Stu Cowan to look back on some memorable holiday hockey classics from the past, including the 1975 New Year’s Eve game between the Canadiens and the Soviet Central Red Army team. Was it really the greatest hockey game ever played?

The HI/O panel also talks about the 30th anniversary of Ken Dryden’s classic book, The Game, and Stubbs has a show-and-tell piece of memorabilia from Dryden’s playing days.

There’s also a discussion about the six outdoor games on the NHL schedule this season – including one in Los Angeles – and Stubbs and Farber recall the bone-chilling experience of covering the outdoor Heritage Classic games.

“I’m the indoor hockey writer at Sports Illustrated after that experience,” Farber says.

(Photo by Sterling Agres/HIO Show)

HI/O community finds special Christmas gift for child, montrealgazette.com

368 Comments

  1. jols101 says:

    New thread.

  2. Kdunc says:

    Rumor has it that a big trade is going to go down on Saturday

    KA Duncan

  3. HabFab says:

    Lehkonen with a goal and an assist today for Finland.

  4. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Max and MT not exchanging Christmas cards?

    Weeks ago someone suggested here that Bowman hated his players and that the feeling was mutual. It didn’t exactly appear to have diminished our success.

    I know, I know: different era, different culture. But what separates NHLers from everyone else is that they are professional, which surely means you develop the capacity to park your hatred and get on with the job. On NO team does every single player love the coach, nor the coach love every player. They just get on with it, so that hatred ends up a motive for moving team in a tiny minority of cases (imo).

    Max is OF COURSE tradable, in the way that every player is. And maybe there’s something to the rumours. But I doubt very much that hatred would have anything to do with it.

  5. jols101 says:

    Friedman is on Sportsnet and mentioned Princess Phaneuf’s contract is almost done. 7 years 7 million. So Subban will come in over 8 million for sure.

    Watching the WJC is always a blast. We have 6 prospects, tied for the most of any NHL team. Fucale has slipped into the backup role for Canada which is a little unfortunate. I think Hudon will play himself into a prominent role for Team Canada.

    Jacob De La Rose and Sebastain Collberg both have big roles for Team Sweden who are the favorites this year.

    Lehkonen is one of the go to guys for Finland and Reway is the offensive catalyst for the Slovaks.

    Lots to be excited about at the WJC. It would have been nice if McCarron had of made Team USA but he seems to be struggling a bit adjusting to the OHL.

    • SlovakHab says:

      BigMac definitely seemed to struggle offensively in his first months in OHL, which lead many, me including, to question this draft pick.
      Look, I’m all for Reway, Collberg or Lehkonen to blossom into scoring wingers and have at least 1 or 2 of them play on our top lines in the future. They seem to have the talent. But we have been lacking that bruising winger for a while now, and Eric Cole has shown us how nice it is to have one.

      Many of us laughed when Leafs picked Tyler Biggs in the 1st round. And we were right, he is not much of an offensive player. Simply a highly drafted bottom line AHLer, who may or may not make it to NHL.

      McCarron is still years away from Montreal, so there is some space for him to grow. He is so big that it is hard to predict who will he become once fills his frame. Moreover, the same draft gave us 2 more big forwards – De La Rose and Crisp, which means we didn’t put all our power forward eggs into 1 basket.

      Especially De La Rose is looking competent so far, and I heard he look dominant in the first WJC game.

      It won’t be cool if BigMac isn’t much more than a 5-minute fourth liner. At least a scary (and versatile, a la Prust) 3rd liner that chips in 15 a year and would be nice. But thanks to the plenty of other 2013 draft picks we put together, there is some decent insurance policy in place.

      They won’t all pan out. But 3 NHLers out of a draft is always a good return. That’s where I keep my expectations.

      • jols101 says:

        Well said. I agree. I think we have to be very patient with McCarron. I hope he develops into the power forward we really need. It will take at least 3 or 4 years.

        Jacob De La Rose is my favorite from the 2013 class so far. Great size, plays a full 200 ft. game and loves going to the dirty areas and initiating contact.

        His critics say he doesn’t have great offensive upside but whenever I watch him he seems to generate a lot of offense. He has good hands and solid hockey IQ. I’m excited about him…

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Thanks Jols.
      As for Phaneuf! What AM I missing?! He is definitely not as bad or slow or stupid as many here (including myself!) have alleged. But surely no one believes he is elite? Is that contract to do entirely with what value the Leafs believe he holds for them, rather than with his real market value?
      Happy Christmas, Jols!
      (And man, did I blow it against the Blues! Remember?)

      [Edit -- yay! It's back -- OK, who am I mixing him up with?...]

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        I’m leaving the above bizarre brain-cramp up for another 5 mins and then deleting!

        Get your digs in now!

        [still can't figure... 3-day-old mulled wine?... does it get stronger, Front?... elder moment?... ]

      • jols101 says:

        Hi Mike. I hope you had a great Christmas. Yep, McCarron is a long-term prospect. If he can put it all together he could be a force in the NHL in 3 or 4 years.

        As for Phaneuf, I have no idea. I guess they figure it is better to pay him than to lose him to free agency this summer. 7 years for 7 million is nuts though. Subban and his agent are licking their chops.

  6. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Happy Christmas! Merry Christmas!
    From Ireland.
    To everyone on HIO.
    Including you, “Bah-Humbug”-wjc (the last of the ghosts will win you over in the end!).
    I had a quick glance yesterday and raced through the wishes posted here Christmas Eve/Christmas Day. Could NOT compose an answer at the time because our family — all seven of us always together up to this point — was welcoming back two boys (one from basic training, one from a university exchange in Hungary) who had been away since September. We have been packing it in non-stop, so no time to visit my one-and-only blog, my conversion-to-blog-blog, and first ever collection of virtual friends and acquaintances.

    Actually felt guilty reading your posts! Including wonderful stories and heartfelt wishes. I hope everyone has been having a great Christmas, or a great holiday, that families and friends are gathered; that there are reminiscences and catchings-up, differences forgotten, food and drink shared and enjoyed, the less fortunate remembered.

    And every Christmas wish (stirring the pudding, pulling a cracker, cutting a cake) was focused on either a power forward or a stay-home, crease-clearing defenceman.

    Mike

  7. PeterD says:

    I’m in favour of moving MaxPac in trade.
    Sure he’s a great athlete and a couple times 30 goal scorer so that should increase the return we could get.
    I don’t think MaxPac is a smart player…as in not to bright.
    How often do we see this so called power forward playing on the perimeter and not going to the net
    What’s the point of being a big body winger if you won’t introduce yourself to the opposing goalie ala Gallagher or Franson.
    A few games ago he got a hat trick…and that because he actually went to the net.
    Next game he’s perimeter all game.
    I think the guy is quite happy to let little Gallagher take a beating every shift while he stays outside waiting for a pass from DD. I think that shows a lack of respect for Gally11.

    If the coaches can’t convince him to adjust his game to drive the net more, to go to the net with his size and strengh and to create screens then I think should be moved so soneone else can take his place who is willing to sacrifice himself for the sake of the play.

    • SlovakHab says:

      Tell me again who calls Pacioretty a power forward?
      It depends which fan posts online.

      For others, Pacioretty is a great 2-way winger with good size and a great release. That’s my expectations from him and he fulfills them pretty goddam well. He plays to his strengths and he is our best scorer. Just because he doesn’t fill someone else’s expectations to be Johan Franzen II., it doesn’t mean he should be traded immediately.

      Unless we get a goddamn good return.

      As for showing a lack of respect to Gallagher for not going to net, I hope you are kidding. Players have well-defined roles on each team and while I absolutely do agree that we could use Pacioretty to crash the net more (just like any other forward), we don’t know how much is it a coaching decision to have Gally crash the net and Pacio to play more of a 2-way game and wait in the slot for a rebound, with a great release of his. I think it definitely makes sense, to play to each player’s strengths.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        It’s a valid point, Slovak, and a tendency I would be guilty of myself, ie. Pacs is big = he should be banging in the crease.

        We want someone to do that, and score/create goals while doing it, and Max has the physical attributes to be that guy.

        Leading us to extrapolate that he is FAILING to be that guy.

        But you’re right. He’s not trying to be that guy, no matter how much we may need and want him to.

        If only…

        • SlovakHab says:

          I know and look – Hossa in Chicago isn’t that guy either, although he’s also got some size.
          But the solution isn’t to trade Pacioretty, as he is good at playing at both ends and driving the play.

          We’ll either draft that guy or trade an extra asset for him. Max is not easily replaceable, and has a great cap hit. Unless we are getting 2 typologically needed players back (power forward + big skilled top-4 RD), there is no good reason to trade such an important piece.

          How about we dispose first of what we have in abundance (smaller skilled forwards) and create space for what we need.

          Just like in real life, you first need to create space for what you desire, then go and get it.

  8. commandant says:

    The Eleven Types of Sports Fans.

    See if you can pick out yourself, and TIMO.
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/12/27/eleven-types-of-sports-fans/

    Go Habs Go!
    Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.
    http://lastwordonsports.com/

  9. slyCH says:

    Any football fan should read this.

    http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/12/oh-my-god-the-oral-history-of-the-1993-houston-oilers/#18735-1

    I was a big Oilers fan, was at the old Foxborough stadium on Oct, 17, high up in the nose-bleeds of that ugly stadium, for the first of their incredible 11 game win run of that 93 season. From Bud Adams, Jeff Alms suicide and Buddy Ryan’s punch, it’s all in there.
    I hated Moon in the CFL because I was a huge Blue Bombers fan but I wanted him to win a Superbowl as much as I wanted Dan Fouts to lift that trophy. Was not meant to be, alas. A good read nonetheless.

  10. Adidess says:

    Btw, am I the only one not getting this thread on the HIO Iphone app?

  11. The Jackal says:

    Does Front or any other scotch aficionado want to take a couple of minutes and tell me a bit about Islay malts, peatiness, and basically just introduce me to why they are considered special and what the peaty/smokiness does for the malt?

    Merci!

    ______________________
    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • Adidess says:

      In keeping with the theme here, Jackal, you could have asked somebody who knows zero about scotch to tell you. If that can work in the hockey business…

    • punkster says:

      Last thing I’m going to do is be all experty and snooty about single malts, like I know what I’m talking about and all.

      I love the taste of most single malt scotch. I don’t have a favorite because I enjoy trying different brands but the ones that appeal to me most have a hint of sherry or port (a hint mind you and not an overwhelming taste of it) usually because of the casks in which it was matured.

      Still SUBBANGIN’ BABY…
      but…
      ELLER IS STELLAR!!!

    • habfan01 says:

      Drink beer- microbrews and dont worry about anything

  12. Caesar says:

    Funny I have never read his work or even cared to until now. All your comments about his blogs have piqued my interest and subsequently added hits to his website.

    Just ignore this idiot at all costs and he will go the way of the dodo.

  13. Chuck says:

    So the consensus around here is that MB will shell out $8+ million per year long-term for his star defenseman. No, not Markov… Subban. And while the boost in next year’s cap makes it feasible, what about the optics of paying him $1.5 million/year more than your star goaltender?

    FYI, $8 million/year would give Subban the highest cap hit of any NHL defenseman… higher than Shea Weber.

    _______________________
    Anything is possible.

    • Adidess says:

      Subban would be the first star D-man (Norris trophy and all) to be signing a contract under the new NHL salary cap. It’s called Market Price (as in value, not Carey).

      That was the risk MB took (knowingly, perhaps) by saying to PK that it was too early to hand him the nice, long-term deal he wanted two summers ago (which would have probably put him below Carey’s $6.5 mil). All PK did was go out and win the Norris. Time to pay up indeed!

      • D Mex says:

        The value of any service or commodity is that point at which a willing purchaser and seller meet and agree.
        Subban’s market value will be decided during negotiation between his agent and MB, and it probably won’t occur here.
        Just sayin’ …

        ALWAYS Habs –
        D Mex

        • Mr. Biter says:

          Wow, 8M is a lot of shekel’s however with the higher cap other players who should not get what they are going to get will strike gold next year. Going to be a lot of wailing and screaming from fans from all teams when someone gets 6M and does not perform.

          Mr. Biter
          No Guts No Glory

  14. Adidess says:

    Hi everyone, I also have something, though not exactly sure how to put this… Ok, will just say I wouldn’t be too dismissive of the trade rumour regarding Pacioretty. Heard from a source this morning, who knows someone in hockey, and who shared with me, in confidence, that one of the reasons Max has not been traded in the last few days is the Holiday moratorium on NHL trades.

    Now, the other reasons are, and hear me out carefully here: 1) MB has not pulled the trigger on a trade involving Patches; 2) MB has not even considered trading the lone 30-goal scorer on the team, who is locked up long-term on a cap-friendly contract and is back playing like he’s on fire right now. But the source believes the persistence of the rumour is proof that MB is not sold on Pacioretty and that he might be reconsidering his position at this time. So there!

    Again, I’m not saying a trade is happening. But I’m not saying a trade is not not happening either.

    P.S. Looks like I actually need to say I made up that whole nonsense, in piling on (mockingly) on more outrageous rumors about Max Pac. People are just too gullible these days or they just don’t read at all. Folks, it’s easy to make things up, if credibility isn’t a currency you need in your business. Just because someone can put a wordy paragraph together does not mean they know what they are talking about.


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