Wisniewski to make debut

PREGAME AUDIO: James Wisniewski | Brian Gionta | Guy Boucher | Dominic Moore | Cedrick Desjardins

James Wisniewski greeted the Montreal media with a few words of French after his first workout with the Canadiens and said he was looking forward to playing against the Tampa Bay Lightning tonight. Wisniewski, who will be paired with Yannick Weber, arrived in Tampa late last night after he was delayed by the airline chaos in New York.

Alexandre Picard and the ailing Josh Gorges will be the scratches on defence tonight while Tom Pyatt is the spare forward. Picard has played the last 20 games but has struggled lately. He scored the winning goal in Carolina on Dec. 23 but he has been minus-5 in his last five games.

Carey Price will start in goal. It will be his 35th start in 38 games.

108 Comments

  1. spos080808 says:

    Yah and Max was crushing the AHL but is not putting up the points playing top 6 mins. I mean come on. The NHL is not the AHL so just stop that nonsense.

  2. SeriousFan09 says:

    Everyone who plays with Corey Locke scores goals, why isn’t he up with OTT?

    Desharnais is not fast enough for the NHL, nor is he strong enough. It’s unfortunate, he has some of the talent to do it but he doesn’t have an NHL player’s body.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  3. Max_a_million says:

    Canadiens need goals.  Goals win hockey games, in fact it is the only thing they count towards the final outcome.  Everyone who plays with Desharnais scores goals.  I don’t care how he does it, he does it well. 

    Let him do it for us. 

  4. Max_a_million says:

    I like White, but this lineup already benches Lapierre.  So you would have to probably make a trade to free up the space. 

    The Flyers have a 3rd line that can score, not sure why other teams can’t? 

    I think it would take pressure off of Gomez to not have to take faceoffs, and not be responsible for scoring.  Maybe he could flourish as a LW on an ‘Energy’ Line.

  5. SeriousFan09 says:

    Canadiens are too soft and too small on the forward lines I keep
    reading, that’s all I read on some days so our solution is bring up a
    guy who’s needed extremely generous listings of his height that have him growing about an inch and a half from 2 years ago to be a lofty 5’7″ and
    does not have Gionta’s speed, nor the bull strength/aggressiveness of a
    Theo Fleury or Francis Boullion, awesome.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  6. REB says:

    I absolutely loathe the leafs, but must admit that Clark was a better than average player, and one mean, nasty SOB who never backed down from a scrum, and always had the back of his teammates.  Yes, the Habs desperately need a player with his ability, heart and pugnaciousness.

  7. SeriousFan09 says:

    Just because you’re drafted doesn’t mean you’re making it, look down the list of past WJC squads and there are names there that have been written off as potential NHLers or are spending their careers in the A. Yes many of them stick around in hockey but they’re never making the show.

    Most a lot of these players will be able to say in 15 years about their hockey accomplishments is they played for their country in the Under-20s. For some of the European players, only reason they had a reasonable look at the draft was because of their WJC performance and they deserve a decent look, despite what Dan Chorra might have to say about them being in ‘our game’.

    The Tournament is flawed certainly, but the European programs are not to be written off. The SWE/FIN goaltending programs are a vast help to the NHL with their production rate while Canada falls behind (and they have a superior philosophy towards training and developing goalies as well).

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  8. TripleX says:

    Never happen, although I really like your lines.  Too much offense for JM and he would never demote Gomez.  Although I don’t know if that is really JM or it is coming from upstairs.

    The only change is that I would bring up Ryan White to play on the fourth energy line.

    Two lines that can score, a shutdown line with some skill and an energy line.  Why not?

     

    “I don’t like to keep kids like that out of the lineup. They need to play; that’s how they’re going to get better.” Jacques Martin

  9. TommyB says:

    No doubt about the cash grab aspect of it.  I posted a comment much earlier today about that.  Unfortunately, that aspect of hockey, or any other sport, is a fact of life today.  The Olympics, the biggest world stage for hockey, is no different.  To the organizers, and host countries in particular, it’s all about the money.  Why do you think Bettman wants to hold out?  He wants a bigger cut for the NHL.  As far as people losing interest…how can we accurately gauge the interest or lack of interest in the Junior game, or hockey in general, in the countries overseas?  These games are not rotated back and forth between Canada and the US only.  And when the games are played overseas, I see the games being played to full houses.  It’s the only thing we have access to when it comes to gauging hockey outside of North America.  There are years, like this one, where there is a shortage of big name junior players in this tournament.  I think that would account for any lack of interest.

    I will say one thing regarding the “maple leaf emblazoned hockey orgy”.  It can definitely be embarrassing at times.  How about Canadian fans booing the Canadian player of the game because they wanted Schenn to be named player of the game instead?  How embarrassing is that?  Of course the reason is that anything named Schenn quickly becomes synonymous with Toronto Maple Leafs, and many of the Canadian fans attending come from southern Ontario, which is dominated by that blue and white mentality.  But to boo one of our own?  Disgustingly embarrassing.

  10. kevin m says:

    Dear Mr. Gauthier,

    This is what the Habs need. If you can find one of these, you will win the Cup!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYNdL3Axw98

     

    DO IT!!!!!!!!!!

  11. Max_a_million says:

    Ok so everyone who plays with Desharnais scores, isn’t it time to start beating a constant drum calling for Desharnais???

    AK, Pleks, Cammy

    Patches, Desharnais, Gionta

    Gomez, Halpern , Moen

    Pouliot, Eller, Darche

     

    “I need player who hate to lose” D. Irvin

  12. mike g says:

    Most of the players in the tourney are often already drafted….

    Plus, hockey programs in Europe and elsewhere except North America are dying very quickly. Hockey as a sport is currently, and looks like it will be exclusively, dominated by USA and Canada for a very long time.

    Finland, Sweeden and Russia can be good teams, but none come close to North America at this tourney. In the past 4 years, only 4 countries have won medals. The rest play for nothing.

    Ken makes an excellent point when he says that it’s become a money-grabber for Hockey Canada and TSN. They promote these massive marketing campaigns on how it’s such a classic event, yet the tourney has died down to a sometimes 4 teams showdown, but most often a Canada-USA domination. The network makes big money, as does Hockey Canada, and the players get nothing from it.

    The tournament is always held in Canada, or a bordering city of Canada, because it’s the only place in the world where people are actually crazy enough to pay big money to watch Canada kill Norway 10-1. Not to mention someone here even said parking is like 40$. This is because they know if it’s held in Europe, nobody would go. And like Ken also says, it gives Canada home-ice advantage every year. And as all hockey people know, home-ice advantage is huge.

    For me, I don’t even pay much attention anymore until Canada hits the semis. It’s just not worth watching a 10-1 or 7-2 game. I’d much rather watch these kids play with their Junior teams. Closer games, even talent, etc…

    And the global talent pool of hockey players is being trimmed every year. Not as many kids playing. Global scouting IMO isn’t as important now as it was 5-10 years ago. There are some great players here and there, but North America is where probably 90% of the best players are.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  13. samTHEman says:

    Hockey exists outside the NHL you know? The truth is the NHL is a business before it is a sports franchise whether you like it or not, it’s reality. How does not cracking the NHL equate to leaving hockey behind?

  14. SeriousFan09 says:

    The bottom 4 teams are generally ‘Out’ by the time the puck hits the ice, but the Under-20 usually features at least 4 teams making an honest run at Gold. Team Sweden looks very strong and the Finns are tenacious enough to make things interesting IMO. You could probably trim the Tournament to 6 teams easily, but to be fair to some of these young players, it is the only time some of these guys can get a scout’s attention if they’re playing out of Europe, with a great WJC performance and for others, it is the only time they will have national attention, a lot of them will not be NHL players but this is their one chance to be part of something before they must leave hockey behind.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  15. 24 Cups says:

    Puck Daddy’s 10 Greatest Goals of 2010.

  16. HUDSONHAB says:

    I’m glad it’s not MAB.

    Hopefully this helps turn the road trip around and puts them back in the race for 3rd instead of fighting for 8th for the rest of the year.

    ….Hab4life….

  17. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Any fellow HIOers in the Tampa area today?

  18. mike g says:

    Ken Campbell wrote an excellent article on the World Juniors..

    You can all find it on the Hockey News website or in their newest magazine.

    He points out how the tournament has pretty much become a joke, and nothing more than a “maple leaf emblazoned hockey orgy”…

    I must say that in the past 5 years I’ve lost alot of interest for the tournament. I found it exciting and not predictable like it is today.

    But if you guys have the time, read his article. It’s great how he explains that all it has become is a way for TSN and Hockey Canada to rack up millions of dollars, in a tournament that’s almost about as predictable than womens hockey.

    Enjoy…

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  19. Chris F says:

    With his compete level, it’s a crime Ryan White is not on this team. I realise he’s been hurt, but if not for contracts he made this team out of camp. I don’t have a problem with letting the guy develop, but he’s good enough now.

    Do it. Do it now.

    Ak – Pleks – Gionta

    Cammy – Gomez – Pacioretty

    White – Desharnais – Eller

    Lapierre – Halpern – Moen (Darche and Laps compete for their spot-whoever plays better keeps playing)

  20. Chris F says:

    Third line of Desharnais, White, and (Pacioretty, or Eller).

    Give it a try. These guys will produce playing against the other teams third or fourth lines. Why not try it, if they can score a couple, you never know what can happen.

  21. keepthefaith says:

    Finally Picard takes a seat where he belongs. The Press Box. 

  22. Max_a_million says:

    You may be right.  But it seems as though he is the best player in the AHL at this point, and I think he deserves a shot.

    Really what’s to lose by doing so?

  23. SeriousFan09 says:

    Desharnais may be a better AHL player but he lacks the same two things that keeps Locke out of the NHL, speed and size. He doesn’t have a gear in his skating like St. Louis or Gionta does that lets him outpace nearly anyone nor does he have what can be described as an excessive level of strength for his size like other small NHL players have had, he’s easily moved by other players and avoids hits whenever he can, if he’s really outmatched physically in the A, I fail to see how he stands up to the NHL.

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  24. Max_a_million says:

    I am not opposed to that, although Eller is one of the few guys who plays every night.  Probably as much a factor of age as anything, and of course smarts.  Eller makes Pouliot better, not sure Laps does. 

  25. Max_a_million says:

    Locke:

    In 6 plus years of AHL play Corey Locke has 434 pts in 497 AHL games.

    It took him until the 5th year to be a point a game player.

     

    Desharnais:

    In 2 plus years in the AHL he has 178 pts in 171 games

    (a) is 2.5 years younger

    (b) Was a pt a game player in his 2nd AHL year

    (c) his pt per game production is 0.17 pts per game above Locke’s

     

    Good try, but I think Desharanis is much better.  His progression has been much faster.  Anyone we throw with him works. 

    I don’t think Corey Locke or Size are good enough reasons against giving him a chance. 

    His career trends follow Martin St. Louis’ not so unfavourably (AHL 95 games, 118 pts).  Not saying he is the next Martin St. Louis.  But, this was the same age St. Louis made the jump … they are similar in size and production.  What’s to lose?!? 

  26. Max_a_million says:

    Patches was playing with Desharnais right?

  27. lavie says:

    Here we go, another media favorite guy, Wisniewski.

  28. TripleX says:

    Play Laps in the middle on the fourth line and send down Eller.  Eller playing so few minutes a game is hurting his development.  I like his skill and effort but I don’t think he is ready yet.

    White brings the grit and feisty nature we need on the fourth line and he might make Laps and Pouliot play bigger.  Darche will fill in if Pouliot or Laps dogs it.

    And ROLL ALL four lines JM and give Hammer, Spatch, Gill and Price some REST.

     

     

    “I don’t like to keep kids like that out of the lineup. They need to play; that’s how they’re going to get better.” Jacques Martin

  29. GrimJim says:

    Four days for a 5,000 km visit. Do they think you’re a pompous immature brat there too?

    And the best you can do is take a shot at my grammar?

    Oh Child, you are so precious…

  30. HabFanSince72 says:

    If only life was fair you’d be coaching in the NHL and he’d be the loser on the internet. But it ain’t.

  31. punkster says:

    You keep on hating there, TX. You’re good at that. What you’re not good at is enlightened comments. How about you read a bit about the player first, learn that he can and has played both sides, is experienced and is paired with a strong, physical D on the roster tonight, like The Wiz. Let’s see how this pairing works out before passing premature judgement shall we?

    ***Subbang!!!***

  32. punkster says:

    Hey, that loser on the internet role…I thought that was mine? Damn, another failed audition.

    ***Subbang!!!***

  33. TommyB says:

    A radio station I listen to frequently has Canadian rocker Kim Mitchell as a host.  He does a segment everyday called “Wish I’d wrote that!”  For some reason, this has come to mind.

  34. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Max Webster Rules. :)

  35. Habhopeful says:

    SVS…Sandy Vaj Syndrome…Get that shizz checked out man!

    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!” ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  36. TripleX says:

    I was talking about the “NEW” guy?  Get enlightened before responding as it seems you see RED at my every posting.

    The “Wiz” is NEW to the team, NEW to the SYSTEM and JM is playing him on his WRONG side with a WEAK partner.

    Get it?

    As for the “premature” aspect I have no need of VIAGRA for a while.

    I don’t HATE anyone.  To be concerned about some of JM’s coaching decisions of which I am not the only one, is part of being a fan.  You are obviously happy with the play of the team and of JM’s roster moves.  Fine, that is your perogative and opinion.  I don’t denigrate your opinions, I accept them as a difference in outlook.  Having a different outlook does not make one a troll, a hater or an idiot.

    Funny how us “TROLLS” almost never attack those with differing opinions and or cry about it.  We attack the misguided decisions of the coach and management when we see it as such.

     

    ps  JIMVINNY said basically the same thing and yet you only called me a “hater”……strange

     

    “I don’t like to keep kids like that out of the lineup. They need to play; that’s how they’re going to get better.” Jacques Martin

  37. ed lopaz says:

     

    weber is still struggling to find his game. he is prone to bad decisions and defensive mistakes.

    The Wiz has similar weaknesses – his strength is more as an offensive defenceman who also has a tendency to make some gafs in the defensive zone.

    In my opinion, The Wiz would be better suited with Gill or Spacek.

    If you put Weber with Spacek, then the Wiz could play with Gill, and PK with the Hammer.

    this gives your 3 offensive d-men, weber, Pk and The Wiz, an achor defensive d-man to fall back on.

    allowing the offensive d-men to take a few chances, jump into the play and join the rush, knowing that his partner is back and not out of defensive position.

     

     

  38. punkster says:

    Well, I guess you told me. Unfortunately you missed the point. Again.

    ***Subbang!!!***

  39. TripleX says:

    Sorry, I guess your reply went over my head.  I assumed you mistakenly thought I was speaking of Weber.

    I guess I was wrong?  Or was there some deeper underlying point to it that goes beyond the inaccurate content?

     

     

    “I don’t like to keep kids like that out of the lineup. They need to play; that’s how they’re going to get better.” Jacques Martin

  40. HabFanSince72 says:

    One thing we’ve learned is that having Gill to cover your mistakes is not the best policy.

  41. TripleX says:

    Insulting total strangers is for losers and douche bags.  Which one are you? 

    Feel free to accept both.

    Yes I have insulted JM and he is a stranger to me.  But he is also a public figure, so there is not quite the contradiction you might think.  Insulting someone on a personal level, rather than intelligently countering the argument or ignoring it, is my point.  It is socially acceptable to be critical of public figures.  At any rate, my beef is with JM’s coaching and roster moves not the man personally.  I will endeavor  in the future to insult his actions not the man.

     

     

     

    “I don’t like to keep kids like that out of the lineup. They need to play; that’s how they’re going to get better.” Jacques Martin

  42. ed lopaz says:

    I think Wiz with Gill could work. But I need to see how they play tonight.

    Gill, in the open ice, 5 on 5, is NOT an NHL skater. Thats for damn sure.

  43. GrimJim says:

    Hey Child, you’re back. You course you are, because it’s the pattern. Habs lose two and you return. Habs win you disappear. Of course when you eventually come back you always say you were busy. But you always show up only after the Habs lose two games.

    TripleX Dec 23 12:46 — “How about this?  Let us watch the Devils over the next 15 games and see what a difference a great coach can have on a team.  If the Devils don’t improve dramatically then JM IS a genius.”

  44. TripleX says:

    I came back from Maui yesterday?  Did you miss me that much?

    I would be thrilled if the Habs had only lost TWO games.

    If I were you, I would spend less time worrying about the “Child” and more time on my grammar.

     

    “I don’t like to keep kids like that out of the lineup. They need to play; that’s how they’re going to get better.” Jacques Martin

  45. REB says:

    When you read down that list…there are some awfully good players there.

  46. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Thanks. I actually thought that number was retired.

  47. secretdragonfly says:

    O’Byrne was traded, not retired, lol.

  48. HabsFanInTampa says:

    I had a brain-freeze, I forgot OB wore #20. I thought it was retired due to Frank Mahovlich.

  49. secretdragonfly says:

    Are you going to the game tonight, by any chance? 

  50. habsfan0 says:

    Frank Mahovlich wore #27.

  51. HabFanSince72 says:

    Yes.

    Pete wore #20.

     

  52. HabsFanInTampa says:

    #27? Damn. I’m not doing to well today! LOL. Too excited about attending tonight’s game.

  53. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Yes I’m going.

  54. HabFanSince72 says:

     

    Honoured by the Leafs but not retired by the Habs.

    Want a laugh? Here are all the players who have had their number “honoured” by the Maple Leafs. Not glorious.

    Syl Apps , Toronto Maple Leafs 10 01993-10-03 October 3, 1993[32]

    Armstrong, George

    George Armstrong

    10 01998-02-28 February 28, 1998[32]

    Bower, Johnny

    Johnny Bower

    , Toronto Maple Leafs 1 01995-03-11 March 11, 1995[32]

    Broda, Turk

    Turk Broda

    , Toronto Maple Leafs 1 01995-03-11 March 11, 1995[32]

    Clancy, King

    King Clancy

    , Toronto Maple Leafs 7 01995-11-21 November 21, 1995[32]

    Clark, Wendel

    Wendel Clark

    , Toronto Maple Leafs 17 02008-11-22 November 22, 2008[32]

    Conacher, Charlie

    Charlie Conacher

    , Toronto Maple Leafs 9 01998-02-28 February 28, 1998[32]

    Day, Hap

    Hap Day

    , Toronto Maple Leafs 4 02006-10-04 October 4, 2006[32]

    Gilmour, Doug

    Doug Gilmour

    , Toronto Maple Leafs 93 02009-01-31 January 31, 2009[32]

    Horton, Tim

    Tim Horton

    , Toronto Maple Leafs 7 01995-11-21 November 21, 1995[32]

    Kelly, Red

    Red Kelly

    , Toronto Maple Leafs 4 02006-10-04 October 4, 2006[32]

    Kennedy, Ted

    Ted Kennedy

    , Toronto Maple Leafs 9 01993-10-03 October 3, 1993[32]

    Mahovlich, Frank

    Frank Mahovlich

    , Toronto Maple Leafs 27 02001-10-03 October 3, 2001[32]

    Salming, Börje

    Börje Salming

    , Toronto Maple Leafs 21 02006-10-04 October 4, 2006[32]

    Sittler, Darryl

    Darryl Sittler

    27 02003-02-08 February 8, 2003[32]
  55. alestar says:

    Peter Mahovlich wore #20

     

    XXIV…and counting

  56. J_P says:

    Its fun to tie a record with the likes of Mario Lemieux, but common schenn, you’re playing against NORWAY!

    Whats so impressive about a player, who has already seen time in the NHL, scoring 4 goals in a 10-2 romp of Norway?  I thought it was pretty unclassy to not only run up the score to that extent, but to steal a goal from a teammate just so you can have a piece of a record. 

    I dont usually mind running up the score in pro games, and definitely take exception to coaches who take exception to the opposition running up the score, but this is junior hockey, and its Norway! They aren’t exactly a hockey power.  People expect canada to beat norway 10-2, its not all that impressive.  Now, if canada beat the USA 10-2, it would not only be impressive, but I would love every minute of it. 

    Theres my rant. 

  57. J_P says:

    I definitely agree with the points, but he is the most talented and experienced player on that team (he’s seen time in the NHL and AHL), and he has been a scoring machine for Canada so far.

    He set Leblanc up nicely for the short-handed goal which leblanc finished off beautifully. 

  58. Deano says:

    Agree … at the time it was tough to watch, but in retrospect, it could have been a much higher score.  The only one who did not get the memo was Schenn.

  59. TheDagger says:

    I feel bad because I kind of had a pretty hard dislike on for Schenn even before I saw him play… only because he is Schenn. Trying to like him, but…. Shenn. Go Braydon Go!

  60. Deano says:

    I had trouble with him from the second that he played with Leblanc.  Seemed the only time Louis got the puck was when he went and got it himself.  I much prefer watching him with Couturier.

    And yes … I’m a big homer.

    ;)

  61. Ron says:

    I had the same thought when he played with LeBlanc. Schenn seems like a its all about me. I could be wrong but he comes off as a very good player but a puck hog at times.

  62. scrowe21 says:

    I thought he played the right side..

  63. MTLForever says:

    i thought that also

  64. BJ says:

    I read he can play both sides. I hope they don’t start him off on his weak side as they did with Spacek who until he joined us had played his entire career on the other side?

  65. 24 Cups says:

    In the past, he has played both the right and left sides.

    It’s kind of like voting in a British election.

  66. JIMVINNY says:

    He does, but there’s a couple of reasons to pair him with another righty.  First of all, it gives one of them a decent opportunity at a one-timer.  Secondly, with three lefties and three righties in the line-up, it would make perfect sense to adjust the pairings to have one lefty with each righty.  And God knows Martin isn’t going to do something that makes sense.

  67. TripleX says:

    He does! 

    Typical move by the brilliant JM to put the new guy on his wrong side and pair him with the weakest partner to boot.  I really think JM has a desire to see players fail.  I know, I know, it makes no sense.  But his roster moves make no sense either.

    Is there something wrong with having his Dmen playing all on their normal sides?

     

     

     

    “I don’t like to keep kids like that out of the lineup. They need to play; that’s how they’re going to get better.” Jacques Martin

  68. patience is a virtue says:

    My guess is that this move has more to do with matching up against Stamkos’ line.  Who else but Hammer and Spacek can realistically be assigned to them?  Who’s gonna suggest we experiment with breaking up the Old Czechs against Guy Boucher and co.?  That pushes us towards the other two match ups – can’t really have Gill and Weber, or Weber and Subban together, can we?  Not many other options than what JM is going with.

  69. Timo says:

    Who… Price?

    Argh. Meant as reply to poster below.

  70. W35T5ID3 says:

    ….wake up and smell da pancakes will ya….

  71. Timo says:

    You know who would give this team a great one timer? MAB. MAB one time it so hard the other teams wouldn’t know what hit them.

  72. W35T5ID3 says:

    I dream about MAB taking 1-timers all night only naked …..super sexy.

  73. mike g says:

    Anxious to see if we protect Price tonight….

    Last time we played Tampa, Guy Boucher knew how to get to our defense.

    I remember during his timeout, he was screaming to shoot the puck from anywhere and just crash and bang at the net.

    Result: Tampa came back with 3 unanswered goals to win the game.

    I thing Guy knows how we play, and he knows how to get to our defense and score goals even when Price is on his game.

    When they crash our crease, our defense not being mean or physical, they score alot of goals and make it a nightmare for Price.

    Let’s see if were able to adjust, or just fold like we usually do…

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  74. SLONCOLD says:

    i’m anxious to see if they can score more than 1 goal and not play the “protect the lead” system, game, whatever you call it, 5 minutes into the first period when they r trailing by  a goal.

  75. HabsFanInTampa says:

    What number is The Wiz going to wear?

  76. mike g says:

    20

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  77. TommyB says:

    20….that’s how J Martin plans to start his ruination of Wizniewski.

  78. secretdragonfly says:

    On the canadiens.com website, he’s on the roster as #20.

  79. ed lopaz says:

    PK and Hammer were amazing during last playoffs shutting down crosby.

    PK is the best d-man we have to shut down the speed Stamkos brings to the ice.

    Hammer and Spacek will NOT work – it is a flawed strategy – and one of the greatest mistakes this team has made is over rating Hammer and Spacek individually and as a pairing.

    There is NO WAY I would have declared that pair as my number one pair as JM did when Markov went down.

    They should be split up and paired with a quicker d-man – together they are tired and slow.

     

  80. TripleX says:

    JM and Montreal management are infallible Ed.  You should get with the program dude.  :)

    Remember when we said Carbo was a terrible coach and needed to go?  Well, the HIO posse called us trolls and idiots.  Of course when Gainey fired him it was justified.

    I have no doubt JM will be pushed upstairs sooner than later.  But as always the real problem is situated on the top floors.  PG is just a clone of his mentor who is always one step behind.  I am very dissillusioned about ever seeing a Cup in Montreal.

     

     

     

    “I don’t like to keep kids like that out of the lineup. They need to play; that’s how they’re going to get better.” Jacques Martin

  81. SLONCOLD says:

    goaltending shut down the pens and caps last year…. defense helped… a bit

  82. patience is a virtue says:

    I don’t totally disagree.  Although those slow old top two D geezers have had pretty darn good results together this season (our stumbling status as a top defensive team is not all Price’s handy work :) 

    But is tonight the night to make such a change?  Perhaps.  But for the context.  No way JM is going to reward PK like that right now.  A lot of this recent turmoil has to do with the dynamics behind the scenes.  And I guess PK is at the centre of that.  Even if you don’t like JM (I happen to think he has proven himself nicely since taking over a radically remade team in the summer of 2009), do we really want him to lose the respect of his players?  He has to follow things through and be consistent.  These benchings of Subban might have been justified by his horrendous on ice plays, but they were primarily about addressing deeper dynamics.  Can’t dramatically switch gears and reward him with a top pairing in the middle of straightening out his rookie attitude. 

    That’s my best guess anyway.

  83. SeriousFan09 says:

    Gill and Gorges were the primary defenders against Crosby though and ATM, Subban is not playing to his best ability. Factor in the last game we played against TBL, his former coach, Guy Boucher seemed to know a few strategies to expose the weaknesses of a player he coached for a year and developed for the NHL level. Perhaps giving Boucher’s #1 weapon Stamkos a match-up against a player Boucher knows very well is not ideal?

    And amazing performance in the playoffs doesn’t mean anything right now, just ask Cammalleri or Lapierre. Remember when we were madmen for giving up Moore? He’s had something like 3 points in his last 15 games and is a -18. What happened in April-May doesn’t mean much right now.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  84. Mark C says:

    Ed, are you sure PK would be the best at shuting down Stamkos? It seems Subban can’t stop anyone let alone Stamkos.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Gill and Gorges, Montreal’s slowest D, do most of the defensive work against Wash and Pitt in the playoffs? Maybe Martin is planning on using Gill and Subban as his shutdown pair tonight.

     

  85. patience is a virtue says:

    Thoughtful posters will question the coach and management when they make mistakes.  I just happen to think that Bob, the Goat, and Jacques have done most things right since June 2009.  I have my reasons and offer them.  You have yours for seeing things differently. 

    How bout we stick to that and cut the hyperbole about “infallibility”, “the program”, clones, etc, etc.  It’s all a bit much, and a bit boring.

     

  86. patience is a virtue says:

    That’s an interesting point about Boucher having PK’s number.

    Agree about the gap between last year’s playoffs and now – in terms of where individual players are at with their games.

  87. ed lopaz says:

    when Pk was on the ice against Crosby last playoff he showed excellent foot work great quickness.

    Pk not stopping anyone!!

    I really do not know what to say to that.

    He missed an open ice hit last game and then Gomez didnt cover anyone which allowed for the easy goal.

    if you want to see Pk play the game like he did last playoffs, and I think we all do, the best thing to do is to CHALLENGE PK to play against Stamkos.

    When Pk was playing well earlier this season, the Habs were winning.

    With MArkov out of the lineup, it would be very wise of Martin to find a way to get PK going in the right direction.

    Thats what good coaching is all about.

    Find your talent and use it to help the team win.

    Yes Gorges and Gill played alot last year against Crosby – I agree.

    When Pk and Hammer were paired together I thought they complimented one another very effectively.

     

  88. ed lopaz says:

    Its easy to be a fan here.

    1) Accept the staus quo.

    2) never doubt the coach or the GM because we are not hockey professionals, so who are we to question the pros.

    3) anyone who wears a Habs uniform is a legend, or a legend in the making

    4) hope that the Habs win, and chalk it up to a slump when they drop out of the playoff race.

    Easy!

  89. alestar says:

    Hopefully he plays his feisty style for the Habs, unlike Moen…total perimeter player since we signed him, invisible on most nights.

    XXIV…and counting

  90. SeriousFan09 says:

    Team Canada takes a hit, Jaden Schwartz, formerly of the top line has a fractured ankle and will miss the rest of the tournament. His offence will be missed, he had a goal and 2 assists in the first two games of the series.

    Leblanc is tied for 3rd in scoring on Team Canada with 2G, 3A so far. Joonas Nattinen is the only member of Team Finland to have more than 1 goal, with 3 goals in 3GP so far, scoring the first goal for FIN in all three games.

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  91. SLONCOLD says:

    sweeden game will be a good one to watch. Props to team canada as well for the norway victory… that game could have ended much worse in regards to the score and the canadian kids calmed it down. good job by the coaching staff not to run up a stupid score.

  92. sidhu says:

    Wiz will fight Malone tonight, put it in the bank

  93. HabFanSince72 says:

    Thursday Quiz (it’s a trick question).

    Pete Mahovlich, Phil Goyette, Jyrki Lumme, PJ Stock, and Richard Zednik all wore #20 for the Habs.

    But who was the most famous Canadiens to wear number 20 for us?

    (Don’t google.)

     

     

  94. Deano says:

    I’ll bite … someone like Richard or Belliveau before they changed to their world famous numbers?

  95. Habhopeful says:

    Ryan O’byrne! for scoring on his own net!

     

    Let me know where I pickup my prize!

     

    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!” ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  96. JD_ says:

    Fairly certain Carbo wore it durin’ his first couple of games with the club before switchin’ to 21 after an extended stint in the minors.

  97. mike g says:

    Mike Johnson..

    ..

    Or Rober Lang

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  98. alestar says:

    Ugh! Why did you have to remind me that PJ Stock played for the Habs…

     

    XXIV…and counting

  99. SensFanSpezza says:

    Kjell Dahlin?

  100. Deano says:

    I think her wore a couple more before he took the #4 and made in famous.

  101. HabsFanInTampa says:

    I wore #20 when I played for the APSA kid’s league in Chomedey in the 70′s. Does that count?

  102. HabFanSince72 says:

    Jean Beliveau is the correct answer.

     

  103. Chuck says:

    I think that he wore the number 8 for a game or two later in his career, but that was because of a uniform snafu.

    Centre Hice: Bringing a knife to a gunfight

  104. HabFanSince72 says:

    Yes he did.

    (I am googling this by the way.)

     

     


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