Wisniewski – The view from Long Island

Here are some perspectives about the newest member of the Canadiens, James Wisniewski, from those who have followed his play this season with the Islanders.

From Arthur Staple, Newsday – “Two things are clear from this deal: 1) Garth Snow is already in full
future-planning mode, and 2) James Wisniewski was not going to re-sign
with the Isles given the chance.”

From Chris Botta, Islanderspointblank.com – “Since he won’t be asked to be the man in Montreal, Wisniewski – unable to
shoulder the load when Mark Streit was sidelined with a serious
shoulder injury – should be okay for the Habs.”

From BD Gallof,
– “James Wisniewski: point leader on the car
wreck on Long Island, yet also
with a booming -18 that gives the clear indicator that despite his use,
he is not meant for the top pairings. It means he was playing out of
his depth. He is and was not the 2nd coming of Aucoin…

“Isles got great
value here. Sorry to deflate some balloons here, but it
is nothing more than smart GMing. Get max value for a guy who did well
in a pinch, but still has severe and clear limitations and fit in the
longterm….Wiz will be a far better fit in Montreal, where he will be
used on the
powerplay and at the 4-5th man spot.”

Mike Hume, ESPN New York – “Defensive metrics are tricky to pin down and seldom tell an accurate
story, but Wisniewski’s +/- was a very suspect minus-18. Pretty
wretched. But considering he spent 70 more minutes on the ice than the
next closest Islander and his team allowed 3.3 goals per game, while
scoring just 2.3, that’s not as terrible as it could be. There are four
other skaters and a goalie out there with him after all. For his career,
Wisniewski’s +/- stands at plus-1, a figure that stood at plus-19
before he joined the Islanders.”

Dominik, Lighthouse Hockey – “Under two Islanders coaches this year, Wisniewski was seldom put out against top competition. Even still, his even strength play was
often…well ‘marked by curious decision-making’ is how I’d put it. It
may have been simply a matter of too much ice time hurting his game….That’s not to bash Wiz: He
obviously brings some things to the table, which is why many (including
me) were thrilled to get him from the discount bin a few months ago….Wiz is far from a Mark Streit — and that’s not his fault — but
his big shot was a PP threat that must somehow be replaced.”

John Panarese, Eyes On The Isles – “Personally, I think Wisniewski had a lot thrust upon him with the
injuries to Mark Streit and most of the other ‘veteran’ defensemen.  You
can only ask so much of a guy who is not accustom to, perhaps, having
to do it all.  Whether it is excuses or not, he demonstrated his moments
of brilliance out there, but in other instances, it was clear that the
load might have been too much for him.  The bottom line is he has a much
better situation for himself in Montreal, and the Islanders have lost a
veteran presence on the ice and in the locker room.  From my
perspective, I was really starting to like the guy and felt that things
would have gotten much better for him upon the return of Mark Streit.”

More from Arthur Staple, Newsday – “Now he has half a season plus the playoffs to make an impression in
Montreal, where the Canadiens are looking to fill the void left by the
absence of Andrei Markov.

the history, the tradition up there, 18,000 screaming diehards every
night,’ Wisniewski said. ‘I just have to do what I can to help the team
I’m with. Now, that’s the Montreal Canadiens.'”




  1. spos080808 says:

    If you think Gionta/Cammalleri were going to come to Montreal without Gomez being here you sir, are so foolish.

    Look over the last 10 or so years. What high level free agents have signed in Montreal under their own free will. NOT MANY AT ALL! Why? Who knows? A lot has to do with the Canadian dollar, the fanbase has a lot to do with it etc.

    BUT when Scotty was traded to the Habs all of a sudden Cammalleri and Gionta come aboard. You think that is a coincidence? Out of the blue two high level free agents decide to chance the last 10+ years of free agency in Montreal. Give me a breeak.

    Scotty being here is a HUGE reason why those two players signed with the Habs. To say otherwise is so foolish it is not even funny.

    Sure I hate Gomez’s contract and his play is def. lackluster a fair amount of the time, but if he was not here, neither would Gionta/Cammalleri.

    And you do realize the Habs would not have signed anyone else right? They would have ended up bringing Kovalev back. And yah that sure would have done wonders for the organization.

  2. StevieRay says:

    and also a waste of a good # ..11.  Last nite did it for me .. when Gomez was coming off for a line change …he dogged it to the bench ..Lars Eller anticipating him to come a bit harder ..jumped on the ice ..the rest is history ..too many men penalty ,,but the icing on the cake was that JM send Eller to the box to serve the penalty..when Gomez and his lazy ass should of been sent …..

    Gomez is the only Hab player I truly dislike …and that says a lot because I’ve been watching them since 1956..nuff said …

  3. joeybarrie says:

    I’ll say it again, as much as I loved Koivu, he couldn’t get us as far as Gomez did in his 13 years with the team. Gomez did it in one season. He wasn’t the only reason, but the forward who had the most ice time, and the most assists obviously was a big part of it.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  4. joeybarrie says:

    And how many empty netter does ovechkin have? Still counts in his total.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  5. ManApart says:

    such a ridiculous post.

  6. ManApart says:

    What do you think, I dislike the guy for no reason? it’s because the team never seems to improve beyond a middle team. Now it’s Gauthier. Can we just fire this washed up regime once and for all!!? You’re tired of my anti-management posts? Imagine how tired I am of them running the team! They’re so old and hopeless, i almost give up.

  7. Kythehabsfan says:

    No – folks on this site for the most part saw Streit as weak defensively and thought his offensive contribution could be replaced and that we did not need him if we had Markov. Personally, I think he almost as good as Markov.

  8. fbkj says:

    just out of curiosity and i mean this with no disrespect

    do you have the ability to determine the things you proclaim

    stack that up against reality

    then make necessary adjustments?

  9. drivefor25 says:

    Your hate-on for Gainey gets tiresome after the 400th, 500th, 600th post…or does it just seem like 600 posts?


    Fan since ’71

  10. ManApart says:

    It’s nothing personal against the guy. Many of his moves were indeed dumb, and this team is a bubble team once again. For God sakes, no more.

  11. SmartDog says:

    Amen again.  I get trashed for saying it but Gomez is even more the albatross I said he was when he arrived.  Imagine where we’d be with Koivu as 2nd line center and an extra 5 million in cap space.  Hell – and HERE’s A PERSPECTIVE BRINGER – Grabovski at 2nd line center would be our GOAL LEADER.  F-n Gomez is a waste of a sweater.  It’s hard to win with such a handicap… nothing depresses me more about the Habs. 


  12. SnowManHabs85 says:

    I would still like to see Hamrlik re-signed with the Habs next season but not over more than 2m. It’s Spacek I’d like to move, he’s out of position and gives away the puck more times than Hamrlik. Yes Hamrlik’s contract is a cap hit of over 5m but ends after this season.

  13. ManApart says:

    Get real man. Aquiring Gomez was bloody stupid and he’s playing awful if he was being paid 3 million. For 8, he’s pretty much the worst bang for your buck in the league. All your BS excuses doesn’t change that.

  14. habs03 says:

    Agree, but no need to call the guy an idiot, he brought a lot of respect back to the franchise from the ruins of Houle.

  15. smiler2729 says:

    It is what it is, ain’t no use complaining about it cuz that won’t change it. I like Scott Gomez and it’s too bad that contract is such an albatross around his neck.

    It would be the same thing for Vinny Lecavalier if he and his $10 million/year (!!) were up here. It’s also the same for all the other dumb contracts out there (d’ya not think Mike Richards will be considered an overpaid bum before his gazillion year contract expires in 2525?)

    Let’s try and not judge the player by the money they make cuz if we start down that road, Tommy Plekanec sure ain’t a $5 million/year player to me…

  16. Everlasting1 says:

    3 of Gomez’s goals so far were incredibly flukey. Tangibly flukey lol


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  17. ManApart says:

    You don’t make a dumb move because there’s nothing better around. That’s idiocy, which Gainey was. BTW Koivu is twice the 2nd line center Gomez ever was. Should of kept him for half the price.

  18. B says:

    Do you think Gomez replacing Koivu is the reason why the Habs went further in the playoffs last season that they did in all the seasons before with Koivu? I think there might have been something else to it.

  19. ManApart says:

    Gainey’s trade for Gomez was terrible at the time, as almost everyone rightly said and is terrible now. There is no excuse for being so shortsighted in handcuffing a team in the cap era with one of the worst contracts in the league. It was a dumb-dumb move and the team is paying for it. I and many others warned you guys who live with Habs blinders on. now you see what we meant. Almost 2 years later though. gainey should be fired for that move alone.

  20. habs03 says:

    I think a major factor that lead to Gainey trading for Gomez is the lack of Center in the game, it is a key position yet they were not any Center to be had, every team with a good center has signed him to a long term deal, as much as I hate the Gomez trade, I understand now that Gainey didn’t have much of a choice, during the offseason Gianey was looking for a big C, and tried to get Vinny Lec, didn’t happen, and settled for Gomez, looking through the NHL pending UFA, even looking at last year free agency, there hasn’t been one top flight C to be had. pretty much every young and upcoming C is signed long term, look at Pleck in the summer, if he made it to July 1st, someone would have give him 6M at least, not because he is worth it but because many teams are missing that position. It look like Brad Richards is going to be the only true 1C to hit FA in a while, and the only reason he isn’t signed long term with the Stars is because of ownership issue’s, so teams like the Leafs, Sabres,Rangers,Kings,Flames etc that need a number 1C are going to be bidding for him, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the teams that loss out are gonna have no choice but settle for someone like Savard(contact too long for somone with his injury), or maybe Vinny Lec(same issue). Just my 2 cents on the Gomez trade.

  21. SmartDog says:


    Good one!


  22. SmartDog says:

    Amen brother.

    Better performance from Gomer – even just what he did last year – and we’d still be sitting pretty.   He seems unwilling to risk his rich ass for a measly hockey game.  

  23. B says:

    You briefly commented “I think our free-fall lately is due mostly to our aging, crumbling defense” and that you “Hope this guy’ll help”. I simply pointed out that he will likely make that “aging, crumbling defense” older. Was the snide remark really necessary?

    He should be able to help them on the PP, but I don’t get the impression he will be very effective in helping log important TOI on the PK or against the other teams top lines.

  24. HabFanSince72 says:

    Pierre McGuire aside,

    Gott agree with you on that one SD.


  25. HabFanSince72 says:

    Forget it. Sutter’s stepped down.

    Iginla for three plumbers is no longer feasible.


  26. HabFanSince72 says:

    Move Hamrlik.

    Good suggestion.

    Thanks for that.


  27. HabFanSince72 says:

    I quit Scott Gomez’s Defence Team.

    I’ve defended Gomez before.

    I still think the trade was good, based on the data Gainey had at the time. It was the first step in rebuilding the franchise, and if Gomez played as well as he did for the Rangers he’d be fine. I liked his play at timtes last year.

    But now I’ve had it. He had a couple of good games after returning from injury. But now he’s back to sucking. 0/12 on faceoffs yesterday. There is nothing good about his play. He avoids traffic. Avoids hits. Doesn’t help out on D .Doesn’t score much.

    Nothing we can do about it of course. I don’t blame Gainey. I don’t blame Martin. I don’t blame Gionta (although it would help if he converted some of the chances Gomez creates.) No I blame Gomez.




  28. adam76 says:

    The solution can be found in 7 words:


    Jarome Arthur-Leigh Adekunle Tig Junior Elvis Iginla

  29. Everlasting1 says:

    Wow. Nice assessment. Koivu was the pillar amidst the crumbling organization. If you couldn’t see that, can’t help you. Gomez was a hack in the playoffs.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  30. fbkj says:

    why do you feel the need to repeat something completely canned in orter to fabricate a silly point

    anybody can do that

    alright, how about since 1976?

    what makes 1980 the defacto year that success must be gauged by?

    and also why did you bring this up to counter smart dogs point about the islanders lack of fans?

  31. observer says:

    i repeat since 1980 – that is one thousand nine hundred and eighty – izlanders have won MORE stanley cups than the canadiens.

  32. observer says:

    problem with habs has long been stubborn incompetant management whether it be gainey, houle, gauthier and even savard. and their poor record over the last 30 years shows it. especially the last 17 years.

  33. SmartDog says:

    True, but they’ve sucked even worse than us at our worst lately.

    And if you’re going to throw the Leafs in there, throw in me and my dog too! :)


  34. Everlasting1 says:

    You sure you don’t mean Souray’s D?


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  35. fbkj says:

    and since 1984 the habs have won TWICE the amount of stanley cups as the islanders, leafs, blues, canucks, panthers, lightning, blue jackets and the harlem globetrotters, COMBINED

    selective stats ftw!

  36. observer says:

    Agree! Fans here will love him. And will want to see Hamrlick, Picard and Spacek moved as soon as possible.

  37. SmartDog says:

    Pierre McGuire aside, in the true sense, this team has exactly ZERO monsters.  The closest is Subban, and it remains to be seen if that’s what Martin is trying to train out of him.  I hope not, because Subi can give it. And we need guys that can give it. He COULD be a monster.  And watching him, if the team could become more like that, it would serve them well.

    This BTW, is also why I love Plekanec. He’s not a big tough guy, but he plays a scrappy game (usually… ahem) without taking a lot of penalties. But he does what he wants and doesn’t mind ruffling feathers.  A big guy or two to back him up and he’ll be even more, dare I say it, beligerent.



  38. punkster says:

    It’s simply because we see eye to eye so often ;)


  39. observer says:

    Since 1980 the Islanders won MORE Stanley Cups than the Canadiens and Leafs COMBINED!

  40. B says:

    Gomez is not a “guy who helps lead the team to a league leading in PK”. His time on the PK this season has been drastically reduced due to diminished and indifferent play. Gomez is down to 14th on the team in PK TOI per game so far this season.

  41. observer says:

    Streit not worth what he got BUT Spacek and Hamrlick are? Givemeabreak!

  42. Hagar says:

    Gonna have to be premature about it & say I like this trade. We now have an angry young man on D. We really were in need of the help.

  43. Chuck says:

    The Habs didn’t give away Mark Streit. He chose to sign with the Islanders for more money than Montreal management was willing to pay him. In return, we got the cap space that would otherwise have been allotted to him.

    Centre Hice: Bringing a knife to a gunfight

  44. SmartDog says:

    There you go being all reasonable again!  Good answers.


  45. PeterD says:

    Just read Steve Hindle’s blog and totally agree …we are still missing the key piece to move this team from mediocre to very good.

    Clearly what we need is a big, power star forward with a history of loving the dirty areas in front of the net and battling to screen goalies and pop the goals…We smply do not have one of those in the system ready to step in and do the job every shift and eveery game.

    I think a player like Iginla would do the trick por at least be a good start…THe fans here on HIO have been talking about the need for a top 6 forward all year and we all have great hopes that MaxPac will be that player…but the truth is he is not enough nor is he the saviour we need.

    I, for one am sick of watching our zippy fast small forwards fly up and down the ice adn pop a shot straight at the opposing goalie…that any major junior goalie is sure to stop cause we are shooting right at him…Give me a break…all season we have been waiting for someone with balls to go to the front of the net and get dirty…Pouliot…NO, Moen…NO, Lapierre…NO…AK…Hell NO…so where are the guys with balls…

    Why not send in a defense man to screen the opposing goalies…for sure with the amount of rubbver these guys block you would have to think they would not be afraid of getting hit with a shot if they were intentionally supposed to be screening the other goalie…

    A few months ago I re-waytched a habs game from the ’70s…and noticed a lot of Serge Savard in front of the other teams net on the PowerPlay…Savard was a monster out there…why not try Hammer of PK as the extra forward in front of the net on a few powerplays…

    But seriously we need help up front…it is long past time to think we have the talent and toughness up front to get the job done and all our dreams of the kids in Hamilton or in Junior being our saviours is just that…Dreams. 

    TIme for a big move Pierre G…and that will involve some of those Hamilton and Junior players inn order to get somebody or somebodys back that move us to the next level in our conference.

  46. Kythehabsfan says:

    Yes, we let Mark Streit walk – he actually wanted to play defence instead of 4th line! As an organization, we do not seem to evaluate defensive talent very well or we don’t have the patience to let them develop. As I recall, the posters on HIO didn’t think too much of Mark Streit’s defence at the time either.

  47. Shiloh says:

    Hee hee – you’ve got to look at the whole picture, not just a select few. Further, the guys you mentioned are having a down time. Gomer has precious little upside.

  48. joeybarrie says:

    Losing Mark Streit was a mistake in my opinion. We should have made room for his contract. I would have preferred Streit over Hamr in retrospect. But then again, thats the benefit of retrospect.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  49. Shiloh says:

    1. Put Spatch and Wiz together and play PK with Hammer.

    2. all of the above

    3. another defenseman around the age of Wiz – and a deal (or demotion) for Gomer

    4. Tough question – why not Halpern?

    5. the Pleks line will get going again in January – and AK46 will play well.

  50. Kythehabsfan says:

    Yup – I think a lot of people see these pairings. We need PK in the line up and we prob need him with Hammer.

  51. joeybarrie says:

    I love Saku Koivu. But in 13 years Koivu did not get as far in the Playoffs as Gomez did in ONE season with us.

    Again, its all about multiple peices. Some are expensive and some aren’t. You get a deal one day, and others you have to overpay for the Gas because your tank is empty…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  52. Hockey Socks says:

    All that means is that Boyd is doing a good job of filling in for Pacioretty down in Hamilton.

  53. Kythehabsfan says:

    1. It should, but will it? Marty loves keeping his D pairing together compared to the F’s.


    2 is c. You can not hang 7 of 9 on a rookie D. esp when you don’t score. Our collective, incessant focus on this rookie is completely bizarre. Such is our life on HIO.


    3. Time will tell if another journeyman D in our lineup over playing our homegrown talent will proove to be successful. The boys upstairs have prooved one thing over the past few years: it is far easier and cheaper to buy a 2nd or 3rd pair D-man than develop your own. Next big need: a consistent top 6 F.


    4.  Tough to pick a 3rd star after those 2. I will give the nod to Alex Auld for supporting Carey so well.


    5. On the current roster, PK must be the guy who picks up the D and provides the kind of offensive punch the team needs. But will Marty let him play? Of the forwards, Gomez must be the guy to elevate his game. The passing grade is 30 goals by Gionta.

  54. joeybarrie says:

    Gomez has 2 more points than Lacavalier…

    Gomez has 8 fewer points than Vanek and a higher minus, but look at Vanek’s team…

    Ilya Kovalchuk has 1 more point than Gomez…

    Gaborik has 4 more points than Gomez…

    Jason Spezza has 3 more points than Gomez…

    So let’s compare them… Vanek has 1 more point in his entire career in the playoffs than Gomez had last season. Lacavalier cannot compare to Gomez in the Playoffs, and what I mean by that is Gomez is more valuable. Kovalchuk in the Playoffs??? Nothing special. Gaborik? Has to play more than 30 games in a season to help his team get to the playoffs. Spezza is a good playoff player, so I can’t say anything there. Career wise, the difference between Spezza and Gomez is he won the Cup twice.

    As i said before many many times, It seems as if The team wins with Gomez and doesn’t without him. He is only one particular key to the puzzle, but he is a corner peice.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  55. ZepFan2 says:

    “Dustin Boyd has 9 goals in 6 games in Hamilton.

    Let’s have him center the second line and in Montreal and send Gomez down.”



    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  56. SeriousFan09 says:

    1. True, we should see Subban-Hamrlik reunited and have Spacek-Wisniewski.

    2. C, veterans did not get the team going for an opponent they should have been working over for a series sweep.

    3. Power forward to step up and do the job, Pacioretty seems tentative and deferring to Gionta, Gomez too much when he should always be the net-prescence guy on the line while AK is just teasing us ATM.

    4. Hamrlik, he took on a ton of grunt work without complaint and did a strong enough job.

    5. Expecting Cammalleri to wake up soon, he’s due for a BIG streak.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  57. HabsFansince49 says:

    i read this above: Wiz is far from a Mark Streit — and that’s not his fault — but his big shot was a PP threat that must somehow be replaced.”  

    Good God! We gave away Mark Streit. Gotta love Montreal management.

    I don’t pretend to be an expert; just a die-hard Habs fan passing my opinion

  58. punkster says:

    1. True

    2. c (the vets couldn’t suck more than suck itself, but they sure do suck right now)

    3. A top 6 forward who can score…and score…and score.

    4. Halpern.

    5. It better be the “C” because that’s his job.


  59. HabsFansince49 says:

    I think the problem is much deeper, much deeper than some Wiz can fix. It is deeper than small players. I sense the players are no longer with Martin – his system doesn’t fit. The real issue is that it will not change. Gauthier perhaps did ok (remains to be seen) by getting Wiz but Gauthier cannot deal with the real issue – Martin. I suspect he can’t deal with it because he can’t see it.

    I don’t pretend to be an expert; just a die-hard Habs fan passing my opinion

  60. New says:

    I dunno. I think a lot of it is simply disappointment. (Not in you, but in the team:) There are some fans who snap at others and when they consider an arguement foolish think the counter point should be an insult rather than a fact. Not always, sometimes they insult and change the subject or question. The one thing about  HIO is it has as many opinions as hits so you are going to get upset people with the answer to the team issue du jour. Right after a bad game the percentage of upset fans is highest so you have a higher chance of finding a few insults.

    Your stuff is usually well thought and the questions interesting. All to say I wouldn’t worry about it if I were you. The players have to do the same thing: ignore the boo birds and stay on page.

  61. Everlasting1 says:

    Offering Koivu a contract was never an option? He’s two-fold better and cheaper.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  62. HNS says:

    I love when we get commentary from ESPN. They haven’t had hockey now for how long?????……and even when they did, their opinions could have found a home on any roll of toilet paper.

  63. shiram says:

    Didnt we go for Gomez for a lack of any other top line center at that time? Wasnt the team trying to go after Vinny Lecavalier, but he refused at the last minute, kinda forcing our hand in picking whatever was available?

  64. shiram says:

    1. true, should probably think of breaking up Spacek/Hamr
    2.none of the above, just about the whole team looked bad,
    3.Generating offence, but it seems to me that applies to all our 4 lines, so one player could not be the solution.
    4.I’ll take Halpern, his play has receded since then, but at the start of the season, he ad some decent offence going and was winning tons of faceoff.
    5.I’d very much like it if it was Gionta, him being the captain, it could definately inspire the rest of the team.

  65. SmartDog says:

    The Islanders have fans?


  66. Shiloh says:

    I didn’t say 5th – it could well be 1st. Why did we throw in anything at all? We should have acquired much more for taking that albatross of a contract off of Sather’s hands. And, my astonished young friend, you are not seeing the true comparison. Examine any player in the league, or two or three, whose salary adds up to $7.35 million – that’s who you compare Gomer to.

  67. SmartDog says:

    I think you have a point – I think Wiz will help.

    I’ve said this for a long time that we need more meanness to compete night after night otherwise the team will fall apart.   With MaxPac adding some size and Wiz adding some meanness, and PK
    back, maybe Pleks and Cami and Gionta won’t have to fight all the
    battles themselves.

    It’s ridiculous to ask small skilled players to compete with tough teams without physical support. Like anything else, stress at home, stress on the job – the more stress, the harder it is to keep your head up… I don’t like it but a couple of mean SOB’s will make hte Habs stronger.

  68. Bob_Sacamano says:

    Exactly the pairings I had in mind a minute after I read about the trade.

  69. OneTimer says:

    No, he’ll (hopefully) shoulder some of the workload from Spatch-Hamr-Gorges and thus improve the defense overall. That wasn’t too hard now was it :)

  70. GrimJim says:

    Cups, get it right, that’s 3000 empty bottles in Boone’s basement…

  71. Mr. Biter says:

    Seems like most Islander fans don’t like the trade so we may have come out ahead espically if he’s re-signed to replace some of our aging rear guards in the summer. But we still need a big winger who can score and drop the gloves.

  72. SmartDog says:


    1. T/F: With the addition of Wiz, the up and down play of Spac/Hamr and PK (hopefully) staying in the line-up Martin should re-think his defensive pairings. (Except Gill-Gorges?)

    2.Which, if any, is more responsible for the crappy product on the ice last night:

    a. PK, and the way PK has been handled has fragmented the team.

    b. Martin’s losing his grip and his ‘system’ is no longer working, 

    c. Veterans are just not performaing as veterans need to.

    3. With Wiz in the line-up it seems one need is solved (and hooray for a little meanness too). What’s our next biggest need?

    4. If there was a hero of the early part of the season it was Price… with Pleks perhaps not far behind.  Leaving out those two, pick a “third star” from the early season (the good part).

    5. Who (if anyone) WILL dramatically pick it up and help carry the team forward in January?



  73. Everlasting1 says:

    A screen name is not the same as a nickname. Besides, we’re all everlasting :-)


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  74. joeybarrie says:

    5th worst trade? A guy who helped lead us to the Conf Finals and a guy who helps lead this team to a league leading in PK, for Chris Higgins who is on his way to playing for every team in the NHL, and 3 guys who have a total of ZERO games played in the NHL.

    Hamstring the Franchise for the next 5 years? I mean are you even CLOSE to being realistic?

    Astonishing how people are blind to see whats going on, on the ice. Astonishing to see a guy who has the most points on our team in the last 7 or so games get bashed over guys like Gio 1 points in 5 games, Pleks 5 points in 10 games, and AK 5 points in 12 games. Gomez isn’t producing, he sucks. Gomez produces, he sucks.

    Well I am just glad the people running this team know more about professional hockey than the armchair gm’s gaining weight from eating their hot dogs, while yelling at their TV…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  75. Born in a Bad Year says:

    If you last more than four hours seek medical help.

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