White will sit again against Lightning

Canadiens coach Michel Therrien confirmed that Ryan White is still in the doghouse and will be a healthy scratch for Tuesday’s game against the Tampa Bay Lightning at the Tampa Bay Times Forum (7:30 p.m., TSN, RDS, TSN 690 Radio).

Therrien has juggled some lines with Max Pacioretty joining youngsters Brendan Gallagher and Alex Galchenyuk, who is celebrating his 19th birthday. In case you were wondering, this a promotion for the kids.

It’s a demotion for the struggling duo of Erik Cole and David Desharnais, who are now playing with Brandon Prust.

There’s a sense of desperation for both teams because the Lightning has lost four in a row, while the Canadiens are on a three-game skid.

(Photo by Allen McInnis/The Gazette)

Therrien shakes up Canadiens lines, by Brenda Branswell

Pacioretty more shocked than hurt, by Dave Stubbs

Hot start for Lightning rookie Conacher, by Pat Hickey

Lightning suffers odd scoring slump, by Tampa Bay Times

Bulked-up Stamkos gaining more confidence, by Stu Cowan

Old-timer Martin St. Louis still going strong, by Stu Cowan

Lightning tough-guy Crombeen drops gloves on diabetes, by Stu Cowan

 

117 Comments

  1. Trackpants says:

    I really hope MTs “tinkering” lights a massive fire under these guys butts… the only way the habs are gonna win hockey games this year is to out work and out skate their opponents.

    Either that or someone needs to grow a wicked mullet like Richer’s and score 50 goals… that guy had the best mullet ever.

    =TP

  2. byrneoNL says:

    * Also, sitting Ryan White hasn’t put us back on the Win Train. Kid’s on a short leash, knows he’s used up all his “Get out of the dog house free” cards. Tampa Bay is not known for thuggery, but Moen and Armstrong have been crappier than White, just in less bone headed and dramatic ways. White’s been on the PK and done well at it – he can actually kinda play. It’s time to bring him back.

  3. HardHabits says:

    DD was the #1 centre on a last place team. Enough said!!! He is not a NHL top 6 forward, unless that team is looking at another lottery pick.

    Over to you Matty.

  4. Habsrule1 says:

    Not sure what you guys were watching last year, but DD was the one going to the boards and coming out with the puck all season last year. Cole & Max definitely benefitted from his play.
    That said, he may have found that it took its toll cause he’s not doing it as much.
    I hope he gets it going but I hope that we keep the best players and make trades that will help the team at the same time.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • kempie says:

      Honestly, I think not a lot of players really knew much about DD last year. It’s not uncommon for a new player in any sport to have success one year then have a much tougher time once players figure out how to play against them better. Subban is a good example of that.

      As for the Eller vs. DD debate, I doubt you’d see this happen with Eller:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoxjOpqNnZQ

    • Trackpants says:

      Maybe I am not seeing what alot of guys are seeing this year regarding DD. Yeah he hasn’t had alot of sucess this year scoring but he has been getting chances.

      In my opinion you should give DD a bit of slack for this reason alone… have you had a look at his linemates?

      Max was out for a bit and I hear a few commenting that he has came back too early, but even before the surgery he looked utterly useless out there. Cole on the other hand spends more time coughing up the puck in our end or the netural zone then generating any offensive chances. No puck support and no help from his linemates. Now the faceoffs… well that is another story.

      This line shuffle will be the best thing for DD.

      Borque and Prust on the other hand has been a big suprises, they both deserve alot of credit.

      You watch, DD is one of the hardest working players on this team, he will get going… hopefully starting tonight.

      =TP

  5. D Mex says:

    Attn – Stu Cowan
    Thank you for the article on BJ Crombeen.
    I have a son with Type-1 who plays high-level hockey and box lacrosse. Your taking time to do a piece like this can be immensely beneficial — awareness and understanding are so important. Much appreciated !

    ALWAYS Habs -
    D Mex

  6. Loonie says:

    Players around the league who over the last three years have benefited tremendously from their linemates and produced an abnormal 60 point or more season……

    Chris Kunitz, Radim Vrbata, Blake Wheeler, Joffrey Lupul, Clarke MaCarthur, Ryan Clowe, Jamie Langenbrunner, Dustin Penner, Chris Stewart and Antoine Vermette.

    This isn’t meant to be an indictment of David Desharnais but an explanation that players do have career seasons at times and believe it or not, teams figure out what made those players successful and adjust how they play against them.

    The players who sustain longevity in terms of offensive production either have an elite skill set(Desharnais does not) or they adapt their game from season to season because they understand that teams are going to eliminate what they did previously to make them successful.

    In Desharnais’ case, he was afforded a tremendous amount of time and space last season while Pacioretty and Cole scored at will from areas that players don’t typically score from, like just inside the blueline. This season it’s become obvious that opposing teams are focused on denying Desharnais time when he has the puck. He doesn’t have the speed to get away from tight checking and his only adjustment is to do a better job of finding open areas on the ice and moving the puck quicker when he does get possession. If he fails to make those adjustments he’ll continue to produce offense at a mediocre pace.

    Some people laugh off the suggestion that Pacioretty and Cole make things easier on Desharnais. Simply put they do. Big forwards with excellent speed and range definitely make life easier for a centreman. A pass that Desharnais sends a couple of feet out of range for a guy like Gionta winds up on the stick of a guy like Pacioretty. A pass into traffic to a guy like Gallagher winds up in a change of possession when the same to Cole often ends up a scoring chance due to Cole’s ability to fight off checkers with his big frame.

    I think Desharnais can recapture what he had last season, but it won’t happen if the adjustments aren’t made.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Galchenyuk making the team this year meant that a top two center position is his next season. This means that either DD or Plekanec will go as they are not 3rd and 4th line centermen. The debate with Eller vs DD is moot. The only issue between the two is accountability and opportunity not position as Eller should be the 3rd line center next year. Your analysis of DD is correct as teams have obviously adjusted. Will he come around? Who knows but his future here seem dim with Pleks and Chucky playing well.

      • Cal says:

        Chucky will not be given the pressure of being a top 6 for a year or so yet. The one thing MT has stressed is to not put pressure on either Gally or Chucky to carry the team. That’s the job of veterans or rare and exceptional talents, like a Crosby or a Malkin. Chucky is a great young player. Does he have the same skill set of a same-aged Crosby or Malkin? No, but he is close.
        DD has reached a long way considering he was never drafted and played in the ECHL. He is not a one season wonder. He will adapt, but he better do it quickly. There’s not much room at center in Montreal any more.

        http://calshabsongparodies.weebly.com

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      100% agree.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I think DD could be a regular 50 point producer in the NHL and I think he will make the right adjustments. He has done it at every level and I think is smart enough to make the right changes. he does suck at face offs though and this team needs help in that area.

      I am interested to see how Max does with the kids and their speed.

      I have a strange feeling that the line combo’s tonight won’t last long and there will be more juggling. I think you will see Cole Max and DD back together in the near future

      I wouldn’t mind seeing what Eller could do between them but right now I think breaking that line up totally is the right thing to do. with both wingers struggling you need to mix them up to try and create some chemistry

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • habsnyc says:

      In all fairness, Cole and Pax both had career years. Cole scored 35 goals, having averaged less than 20 per season for the prior five years. So I think it is fair to say that DD contributed something to the mix. Cole did better with DD than he did with Staal and Staal is an All-Star. I give Desharnais some credit. But I agree that the opposition made adjustments and now DD needs to find new ways to score.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

    • munch17 says:

      Great post.
      I think Cole was flying last year and both DD and Pacs benefited.
      I don’t think DD has the skill set to succeed. He was given and has continued to be given elite minutes including PP and 5 on 3 time.
      And his play in our zone has been awful.

  7. Luke says:

    @Dorval – from the last thread.

    You said in reply to me:

    “Luke, it’s just… I don’t remember Ottawa winning the cup with spezza alfredsson and heatley… but i do remember teams winning the cup with all lines, classifying players as “don’t stand out on day one” is a mistake, as their play throughout the season sets their value to any team.. Bourque was useless on the habs last season, so day one this season ppl thought he was a shmuck.. he has proved plenty of us wrong with strong play and desire/”

    This is part i’m having trouble describing. The point I was trying to convey is that the Habs have only a few pieces that every team in the league, no matter how good, would immediately snap up:

    Plekanec, Max, Price, PK & Galchenyuk.

    You would remove players from your roster to find places for these guys. These are guys you try and keep.

    Then you get the next tier which are players that can contribute, but aren’t make-it or break-it types on a roster. This is where I think Bourque and Gionta fit. If you have them fine, but you wouldn’t go to far out of your way to fit them in. They are also guys that become expendable if you aren’t in a position to compete for a cup.

    If you are offered a 1st rounder for Bourque or Gionta do you take it? Yes.
    If you are offered a 1st rounder for Max or PK do you take it? No.
    (Age is a bit of a factor in that… Plekanec is an: “i’d think about it”).

    I think Kris Versteeg is this type of player. Would you add him to the Habs? If you did, who would you get rid of? Probably a Bourque or a Gionta…

    They are that 2nd tier of NHL player that move around the league, fill out the roster, but aren’t the true core.

    They aren’t the Datsyuk or Zetterberg, they are the Filpula and Franzen.

    Is any of this making sense? I can’t think of a better way to descibe it.

    • dorvalhabsfan says:

      And the way i look at it is:
      would i trade a 1st rounder for bourque? no
      BUT
      would i trade a 1st for bourque if he’s on pace for a 35-40 goal season? yes..
      would i trade a 1st for PLek? no he’s too old like you said
      but
      would i trade a 1st for plek if im contending hard for a plong playoff run? yes i would

      iot’s not all black and white..

      would we trade a solid prospect package for luongo? not as a habs GM

      but as a T.O GM i would

      Go Habs Go

  8. habsnyc says:

    Over $10 million of salary is sitting or playing for another team and another $4.5 million moves to a checking line.

    Montreal is the most penalized team in the league, up from 11 most last season. White and Prust are leading the team in PIM. Neither is feared or has imposed their will on opponents. The fighting is accomplishing nothing. The team is taking stupid penalties, resulting in on ice embarrassments. Losing more fights and giving up more power play goals is not a winning strategy.

    This is an OK even strength team with a goalie who should be able to bail them out in case of the odd mistake on the ice. They have to play to their strength, pushing the pace, skating hard and keeping the play moving. They remain without a faceoff specialist, so the best move is to avoid whistles, especially in their own zone.

    They can grind out a playoff spot through smart play. But they can’t take the most penalties, lose the most faceoffs, leave $10million of salary in the stands, not play to their skill level, goon it up and expect to coast into the post season.

    Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

  9. wall2bay says:

    Colby Armstrong has been useless…..and Moen is a shadow of what he used to be when he was with the Ducks.

    Clearly White has more upside than these 2 so why not throw him in there?

    • habsnyc says:

      White, with his penalties, has more downside. White played himself off the team. Hopefully, Leblanc makes the team later this season and Armstrong, White, Nokelainen and Moen fight for one spot between them.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Because he has to learn to think before he starts randomly punching people.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      He sat for three games last time and came back and did the same. He will probably have to sit for at least another three…

  10. Hobie Hansen says:

    Question to the HIO experts?

    I think the majority of people believe that Eller is more valuable to the team than Desharnais. Not sure if the Habs believe that or if we’re all correct in preferring Eller but here it goes anyway.

    Why not trade Desharnais somewhere for a solid stay-at-home defenseman. I know Desharnais had 60pts last year but I think we need that defenseman more that Desharnias becasue Eller can easily take his place.

    Calgary is one team you look at that has nothing down the middle…

    • nickster13 says:

      Agree! I’ll sign that petition. Desharnais just simply is not strong enough, and is not skillfull enough to compensate for that. There are few who can.

      “I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”

    • chanchilla says:

      despite what everyone here seems to believe, i doubt eller will have a 60 pt season for a few more years, if ever, desharnais is simply being underrated by many posters on this board. Everything was fine when he had 3 goals in 2 games, then the next day it was back on the demote DD train.

      • Steeltown Hab says:

        I was never off the train. He’s hugely overrated all based on 1 season.

        ———————————

        Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

      • Steeltown Hab says:

        Not demote necessarily, just not at C over Eller.

        ———————————

        Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

        • chanchilla says:

          he’s better than eller, maybe not in the long run, but right now. and by a fair margin.

          • Trisomy 21 says:

            By a fair margin? That’s a crock. He has 2 more points in 2 more games than Eller, and he’s been playing with Cole and Max. Let’s not forget the times Eller has set up his linemates only for them to choke. Like when Armstrong had a wide open cage and shot it wide.

          • Old Bald Bird says:

            Only if given time and space, which isn’t the case right now. He is looking very ordinary.

          • Steeltown Hab says:

            You struggle on how to evaluate hockey players

            ———————————

            Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

          • Habfan17 says:

            Have you watched any of the last 3 games? Eller leads in hits, take aways is beating DD on faceoffs, doesn’t get out muscled and plays on the PK. How is DD better, forget way better?

            Habfan17

      • Habfan17 says:

        That is the problem with some Habs fans, they over rate players. DD benefitted when Cole overachieved and Patches had a break out season.

        Here is the way to tell if he is as good as you think. See what other teams will trade you for a small, average skater, who is out muscled and does not win face offs. I love his hustle, but he is not what the Habs need.

        If the Habs made both Eller and DD available, I would tend to think that Bergevin would have way more interest in Eller and better offers for him too!

        Habfan17

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      Unless it were Giordano, I wouldn’t take any defenseman from Calgary.

      I don’t know if people are really saying that Eller is more valuable than DD, but I think what they are getting at is that he’s not getting a legitimate shot at showing the value he can bring. I think I agree. As it is now, give Eller a shot with Cole or Max for a couple of games. Let DD see if he can give any jump to the 4th line.

    • dorvalhabsfan says:

      I feel DD was a one and done kinda guy, he took teams by surprise but teams realized play the body on him good, and he’s ineffective.. Eller is a little different, he still has enough potential to be a good 2nd line centre, but he needs to be brought up properly, with the proper linemates (in order to make his responsibilites more offensive).. i feel neither will be season changing players too often, but Eller has more upside long term

      Go Habs Go

    • Cal says:

      Habs have to stop selling low and buying high. Right now, DD’s value is pretty much nada.

      http://calshabsongparodies.weebly.com

    • habsnyc says:

      Package DD and Eller together for a more physical center, with a left handed shot who wins faceoffs.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

      • Habfan17 says:

        No, make that Pleks and DD, we also need the size and Pleks has mor value and has reached his potential.

        Habfan17

        • habsnyc says:

          It is harder to do it by sending salary but i woudl trade eller, dd, bourque, gionta or plekanec for the center i described. plekanec, cole, gionta, moen have no trade clauses. bourque does too, but i think he lost it when he accepted a trade to Montreal.

          Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

    • Habfan17 says:

      If Beregevin could get a net cearing stay at home defenceman for DD, I would do it in a heartbeat. That would be great for an undrafted free agent and would fill a role that is much more important. I am one of the ones that think Eller is better.

      Habfan17

    • Kooch7800 says:

      This team is offensively challenged…..we can’t exactly start shipping 60 point guys off as we don’t have people to replace them. Eller will get his shots this year.

      I hope Eller does get his shot for a 5 or 6 game stint. What will people say if he doesn’t produce?

      In Fairness to DD, cole and Max have not exactly being playing very well. Heck max doesn’t have a flipping goal yet but everyone keeps crapping on DD? Why not crap on all three

      • dorvalhabsfan says:

        Why crap on just Eller then?

        Go Habs Go

        • Kooch7800 says:

          I am not crapping on Eller. I am just saying everyone is riding DD but Max is paid to score goals and he currently has 0 and Cole has a whopping 2. Certain players are always targets and DD is because of his size.

          I am more than sure Eller will get his shot this year. Question is will he run with it. Time will tell.

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      The debate is not really about DD vs Eller. It should be whether you think DD has a place on this team going forward. I think we can all agree he is not a 3rd and 4th line center. Therefore, where will he play? I just can’t see him surpassing Pleky or Chucky. He will likely be moved in the off season unless he explodes offensively this season which is starting to look unlikely.

    • Habfan17 says:

      How about Whitney in Edmonton, he is having a tough season, but he has what the Habs could use. If the Oilers would take DD for Whitney, would you do it?
      bit.ly/159JHmU

      Habfan17

      • Kooch7800 says:

        I don’t think I would. Putting Whitney on this team still doesn’t make us that much better not to mention Edmonton wouldn’t want to lose a vet on back end whey they are struggling defensively

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

        • Habfan17 says:

          Check out the rumour roundup at the Hockey news! After reading it, I thought it might be worth a shot. Edmonton has 3 injured centres and aren’t happy with Whitney.

          Habfan17

          • Kooch7800 says:

            I don’t put much stock in those rumours. I think a lot of it is guys just sitting around spinning BS and putting it out there

            “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Bun E. Laroque says:

      If we trade Desharnais he’ll bounce around a bit and end up with a similar career to Nigel Dawes (AHL). If we trade Eller my fear would be him coming back to haunt us in the manner of John Leclair. I know Eller isn’t as tough as Leclair but we gave up on J.L. too early cuz he wasn’t scoring enough. He blossomed when he found some decent linemates, consistency and supportive coaching. Eller is only 23.

  11. Trisomy 21 says:

    All this pessimism is driving me nuts… And I’m normally a pessimist!

    The playoff hope for the Habs aren’t done. If you thought they’d be in the top 4 then you were only kidding yourself. 5-8 is more likely, though I am a pessimist so I thought the Habs were a bubble team before the season started. You guys need to lighten up cause all my thoughts are already written when I come onto the website.

    Listen, this is still the team that beat Buffalo 6-1, beat Ottawa and was able to beat Florida, a team we should be beating anyways. We lost to the Bruins by a goal and then the sabres in OT the night after when Budaj was in net. Then we lost to Toronto. Tor is a team who will be in the playoff mix, we’ll win some against them but we’ll lose some. The Bruins are a first place team, we will always struggle against them. Buffallo is a bit of a wild card because on paper they’re a good team but just can’t keep it together. We still haven’t had a chance to play most of the teams sitting below 8th place… Basically what I’m saying is this sample size is still small, we’ve played what 8 teams? We beat the ones below us with the exception of an OT loss to Buf. Yall need to be the realists you used to claim to be, and quit feeling sorry for the Habs.

    • GGtheHab says:

      Well said, we all go though more extreme highs and lows than necessary..we are bubble team and will have good, bad and indifferent games..but I am on the anti DD bandwagon until proven wrong. I like the player, but he is on the ice for way too many GA

  12. Steeltown Hab says:

    Simple Lineup Solution:

    Bourque – Plek – Gionta
    Pacioretty – Galchenyuk – Gallagher
    Desharnais – Eller – Cole
    Prust – White – Moen/Armstrong

    You take away the defensive responsibility and faceoff duty from DD by putting him on the W where he is still insulted with 2 big players on his line in Cole and Eller, they had some chemistry vs Buffalo, and you dictate ice time based on how they play that night between the 2nd n 3rd unit.

    ———————————

    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

  13. Royness says:

    oh please mother of mary and all that is decent and holy please oh baby jebus please let carey get a shutout tonight pretty pretty please oh lord oh man he deserves it and oh please lordy ladies let his defence help him just a little goodness gracious he doesn’t even need much help just a little oh please!

    Roooooooooooyness

  14. montrealtilldeath says:

    It’s a real shame the team brain trust just does not see Eller and his potential. When he has been on accidentally with players like DD there were a few goals. Guys like Moen are not going to score no matter how well they are set up. Eller should be playing with Pacs and Cole or on the kid line. The kids with Pacs are not going to work out. Just examine their individual skill sets and it becomes obvious.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      There just isn’t enough room. I might like to see Eller where Desharnais is but it’s very close. Something has to give, someone has to be moved. Neither Eller or Desharnias belong on the 4th line.

    • helluva habs fan says:

      Eller deserves a bone to be thrown his way pretty frigging soon. He’s looked great since his early season benching, playing with a feistiness that I haven’t seen from him consistantly before.

      I don’t see how you think the kids with Pacs won’t work out however. When I look at their skill sets, it looks like a match to me.

      • montrealtilldeath says:

        Hope you are right and I am wrong. Just watching this show in terms of all the BS surrounding the Habs management makes me think this is a horror version of “the Never Ending Story” and rhe Habs are turning into the ughh Leafs. I want my team back!!!!!!!

  15. Thanks to my son’s hockey and the Wheat Kings I’ve missed th elast three games.

    After last season, the lockout, and now this losing streak, nothing surprises me. I find mysellf sitting back and observing rather than losing my head over something none of us can control.

    Good to see Therrien talking my advice on moving Max. Therrien will learn who’s boss around here yet :lol:

    Off topic for the hockey parents- does Quebec have a no hit house league system? A number of other provinces do (we don’t) and I am working on stats for a presentation to get a no hit league going in Brandon, and the rest of frozen Manitoba.

    LET’S PACK THE HOUSE
    Be A Pro Fundraiser Feb 24th (see web site for details)
    Shane Oliver
    Twitter @Sholi2000
    http://www.Sholi2000.com
    Custom Sports Figures

  16. Gally27 says:

    Habs 4 Bolts 2 Gally with 2

  17. Loonie says:

    Kudos to Ralph Krueger.

    He is expected to make “captain canada” Ryan Smyth a healthy scratch tonight. Tough decisions like this usually lead to actual accountability in the room, on the bench and on the ice.

    Smyth is obviously a fan favourite but that didn’t stop Krueger from making the right choice and benching a player who hasn’t been executing.

    You paying attention Michel?

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Sadly he (MT) is probably scared to sit certain players as this roster isn’t exactly riddled with talent. His record is quickly going south and coaches in Montreal usually have a pretty short leash so he doesn’t want to handicap himself further.

      Not saying this is the situation but everyone is human and likes to look out for their own butt

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

      Oilers brass talked with Smyth this summer when he signed. He knew he wouldn’t play every night. Also better for him health wise.

    • The Jackal says:

      Bench who, DD? It’s quite funny to think MT doesn’t have the cojones to bench DD because he is french (which is the dumbest and most misconceived reason) or because he is a fan favourite.
      Benching Cole, Pacioretty, Markov? Who else? The veterans? I think MT will make tough decisions throughout the season, but we’ve had a good run so far, that has been over-shadowed by a bad week – it happens to every team, and the coaches and management have the long-term view in mind, unlike us fans who plan the parade one win and sack everyone next loss.

      No one has stunk it up so badly that they deserve to be benched. White made the same mistakes that cost us games, and that’s that. DD is being given chances to succeed, as are Cole et al., because they had success last year and had chemistry that is worth trying to re-establish. Benching these players sends the message that it’s unacceptable to not perform. This is different from not putting the work and effort in. They have been trying but have come up short, so MT is mixing things up. I’m sure if that doesn’t work we will see further changes. But it is very premature to come out and say MT does not hold people accountable, taking the example of one team who had some other agreement with Smyth than the Habs probably do with their players.

      And did I mention that DD playing has nothing to do with him being French? That is some Don Cherry logic.

  18. Propwash says:

    Interesting piece on what happens during player only meetings. The link is for mobile so I don’t know how it’ll open on a desktop.

    http://m.thn.com/?content=57d7fcddb71be1ba70b319c8d702a1f4&section=features-special_features

    ____________________
    DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

  19. HabinBurlington says:

    Does anyone know which hab shot the best score on the golf course over the past 2 days? Assuming they brought their clubs with them.

  20. Bash says:

    I am still reeling from Saturday. I can’t stop thinking about the early impressions that the Habs were a lot tougher than last year and would be much harder to play against. We still had Moen and White and added Prust, Armstrong and Boullion. Emelin and PK would be crunching bodies! Cole and Pacman were big strong wingers who could not be pushed off the puck…etc. etc…

    What the hell happened?

    We looked okay against Boston and should have beaten Buffalo!
    Perhaps TO is just a lot better than we gave them credit for. And there were times during that game when we had great chances while TO took advantage of every mistake.

    Like most of you I am hoping that we can rebound in the next couple of games! If not, the weaknesses are apparent. Lack of current talent is a prospects issue; I like our chances here. But if it is about toughness and Gallager and Gorges are the ones getting bitch slapped some changes have to be made right away.

    Or my faith in the new brain trust will certainly be tarnished.

    “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

    • RS says:

      The Habs’ toughness upgrade was exaggerated. For better or for worse, they still don’t have a heavyweight. Prust is very willing, but he’s not a particularly big guy. Prust has lots of fights because he is willing, but also because other guys are not scared of him! And he’s a good enough player to get decent ice time. Some of the really big guys like John Scott don’t get many dance partners!

      Boullion has a huge heart and is tough for his size, but that’s not saying much. Armstrong is not tough and certainly not a scrapper. And from what we’ve seen this year (and with the Leafs last year), he shouldn’t be an everyday player.

      Any team with DD, Gionta, Gally and Pleckanec up front is undersized. Bourque, Cole and Pacioretty have size but aren’t bangers. Personally I think the Habs need White in the line up and they need Moen to wake-up (and to get ice-time).

      Emelin can really hit but not fight, Subban can throw his weight around, but can’t and shouldn’t fight. Gorges, like Boullion, is big-hearted but undersized. We all cringe every time Markov goes in the corner. Diaz is undersized and not tough. All in all, that means it is a soft group of D.

      The habs don’t have a classic heavyweight, a prototypical power forward or the typical big rugged D who can also drop them. In the short-term, they better get their powerplay working again or they’re toast!

  21. Habfan10912 says:

    After what we witnessed Saturday night I must admit I am surprised White didn’t get the call tonight. He might be in MT’s doghouse for a long time.

    ———————————–

  22. arcosenate says:

    The Skid Bowl.

    And I thought we had made changes. Positive changes.

    Anyway, I am not giving up, I am just not looking forward to another debacle, I hope they put a good effort out there tonight.

  23. H.Upmann says:

    Looking at capgeek and had a random thought: signing Datsyuk in 2014 to play with Chucky. He could still have gas left in the tank at that point.

  24. Kooch7800 says:

    Nice review of the BB10:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFET9AHKuYg&feature=youtu.be&hd=1

    I will be picking one of these up

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  25. Habfan17 says:

    Wouldn’t it be funny if Cole and DD had a multi point game tonight playing with Prust?

    It would be great if the two Gally’s do also with Patches

    Habfan17

  26. shaunshaunthehabricon says:

    Let’s see if Cole can back up his words to his teammates! Could this be the start of Gomez Part 2.

    • helluva habs fan says:

      He had a slow start last year as I recall and many were ready to throw him under the bus. Having said that, I don’t think he was playing this bad. He looks like a 65 year old out there at times. In the spirit of optimism, I think he will come around.

      This certainly isn’t Gomez Part 2… Cole doesn’t make enough money to qualify for that distinction.

  27. Sportfan says:

    Well I’m not surprised White is still sitting although with the crap Malone pulled last year maybe it wouldn’t have hurt o have him out here

    New Hockey Related blog check it out :D
    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

  28. Mattyleg says:

    Looking forward to seeing how this plays out.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  29. Thurston says:

    I’m going to be interested in seeing Pacioretty with Galchenyuk and Gallagher.


Leave a Comment

You must be logged in to post a comment.