Multimedia: White, Schultz game-time decisions vs. Hurricanes

Ian Schultz

Ian Schultz: corn on the cob must be a tough meal…
Stubbs video capture

Ryan White and Ian Schultz both are in Montreal but took the morning off at Brossard, having played three games in three nights with the Hamilton Bulldogs Friday through Sunday.

They’ll take part in tonight’s warmup skate before head coach Randy Cunneyworth decides on whether to use them vs. the Carolina Hurricanes.

There was no sign of Travis Moen, a late scratch Saturday with a stubborn upper-body injury. Yannick Weber, nursing a knee injury, and Petteri Nokelainen (upper body) both skated on Brossard’s second sheet of ice.

Defenceman Andrei Markov skated with some gusto before the morning skate began, working out with athletic therapist Graham Rynbend and Scott Livingston, the team’s former strength and conditioning co-ordinator. Presumably, Livingston is aboard to help out with Markov’s ongoing rehab.

Carey Price gets the start in goal tonight vs. Kirk Muller’s Hurricanes, a homecoming game for the former Habs captain and assistant coach, and ex-Habs defenceman Jaroslav Spacek.

Pregame video of White and Schultz to come in a few hours from the Bell Centre; strangely, uploads don’t work from the BELL Sports Complex in Brossard.

Canadiens forward Ryan White.
Stubbs video capture


227 Comments

  1. Hobie Hansen says:

    Time to vent a bit…

    If Pierre Gauthier was being truthful after the Rene Bourque trade when he said the Canadiens are now starting to address their size and toughness issue going forward – it has thankfully ended a long couple years of swallowing one’s pride being a Canadiens’ fan.

    And if inserting Ian Schultz into the lineup is another sign that he is continuing to move in that direction I couldn’t be more thrilled.

    For the past two years this site has become a rallying point for all the softies who have just gobbled up the Habs brutal plan for building a small and speedy team that will turn their noses when any sort confrontation arises.

    Anytime that someone mentions the word “fight” around here they’re accused of being a Brian Burke or Don Cherry fan. Last time I checked 95% of the other teams in the NHL believe that standing up for your teammates is important and fighting belongs in the game.

    The Buffalo Sabres, their fans and the media went into a state of panic when they didn’t respond to their goalie being hit by Lucic and now every game since has been a punch out.

    Fighting always has and always will be a part of the game. It is a young man’s game where guys bash the heck out of each other in an inclosed area. People that sit behind their computers and think it should be regulated like a bill being passed in the Hosue of Commons are out of their mind.

    If you don’t like violence than don’t watch NHL hockey. Watch golf. Watch tennis. Watch figure skating.

    People go to and watch the games in large because of the added excitement that a fight might break out. Every person in every arena are on their feat screaming when a fight breaks out. They often cheer louder than a goal!

    So I hope this Schultz callup is only the start of things to come. Lets get some swagger back in the Habs organization. The type of swagger we had with guys like Corson, Odelein, Quintal and even Souray in the lineup.

    Thank god we’re moving back towards being a real hockey team again.

    GO HABS GO!

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Good vent Hobie.

      1) Standing up for your teammates is necessary nowadays, but only so because of toothless regulations and negligent enforcement. In this age of HD cameras and super slo-mo, infractions could be dealt with by the league instead of relying on on-ice justice.

      The thing about standing up for your teammates is that it causes a never ending cycle of violence. It is based on the mistaken belief that anger needs to be ‘let out’, that it must be vented instead of bottled up. The thinking is that this is the healthy thing to do, the pressure is released and everything reverts back to normal. In fact, all research has shown that people who act out on their anger and violent impulses don’t go back to ‘normal’, they learn to act in an angry and violent manner, and this behavior is reinforced. The old trope that ‘you deal with it on the ice’ is in fact a perpetuation of the problem. If dealing with it on the ice settled things, I wouldn’t still be homicidally furious at Dale Hunter and Ron Hextall.

      2) Fighting will not always be part of the game. That is short-sighted. With all the evidence mounting that blows to the head cause lasting injuries, it’s inevitable that it will be legislated out of the league, either internally or from without. There are lots of facets of the game that has evolved over the decades, and this will be one of them.

      To demean people who take a dim view of violence as a tactic in the NHL as milquetoast starry-eyed web trolls does everyone a disservice. The very accomplished Ken Dryden is one former player who I can think would disagree with you on that.

      3) I liken the fact that people stand and cheer when a fight happens to the rubber-neckers at motor vehicle incidents. A car crash is spectacular, it’s something we wouldn’t wish on ourselves but will look at how others fared. It’s outside our normal realm of experience, and we are curious and fascinated, but that doesn’t mean we should foster the conditions that cause them, or even create more and sell tickets to them.

      4) I don’t want to be told to not watch if I don’t like NHL hockey. By default, NHL hockey is hockey in my country and in the US. I refuse to let a few short-sighted billionaires decide what happens to our game. I also refuse that they be allowed to showcase whatever spectacle they see fit in defiance of societal mores. The constant display of thuggery and lawlessness and unenforced rules has to stop.

      The NHL can be thought of as a public utility that we have bought and paid for several times over. I own the damn thing. I have a say.

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      How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  2. habsfan0 says:

    Another “must win” game for the Habs tonight.

    I’ve lost track of the number of those games they’ve played in the last few weeks.

  3. j2w4habs25 says:

    times like this i miss the old cbc when they had there french national channel covering the habs. I wish i could watch it but i cant – next year i am so getting a dish lol

    but a win tonight will lead us to higher hopes in the playoffs – lets not be over confident – hope the boys get the two points at the end of the day. I feel boosted after that Leafs shutout win :)

    Carey Price #31

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Radio Canada only used to cover Canadiens games on Saturdays, and for a too brief while, Wednesdays. I think we are better served now with RDS broadcasting every game, especially when I compare to the Canucks, who have about 30 games on Pay Per View, a ripoff if ever there was one.

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      How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  4. Un Canadien errant says:

    I’m conflicted over the callup of Ian Schultz. While guys like Ryan White, Travis Moen and Mike Blunden have a role to play, and while the trade of Mike Cammalleri for René Bourque is looking like a win for our team, I wonder if with the callup of Mr. Schultz we reach a tipping point where the Canadiens are like any other team.

    The Gainey Gambit of building a team around speed and skill rather than size was a noble quest to purify the game. It provided us with plenty of thrills but also much heartache. The ‘winning conditions’ had to include an NHL head office that recognized that for the good of the game, it had to make the ESPN SportsCenter highlights and ‘Pardon The Interruption’ show for more than fights, goonery and suspensions, and punished these but rewarded teams that dazzled with artistry. Breathtaking goals and passing had to become the Prime Directive for Gary Bettman and his minions for the Canadiens to capture the Grael. Instead, the NHL is ruled by Jeremy Jacobs and his legions of Orcs, and Canadiens management had to face reality and join the arms race.

    To what degree remains to be determined. If Mr. Schultz is brought up to substitute for an ailing Travis Moen and an impotent Aaron Palushaj, it can be allowed, but if he becomes a regular, what does that make our team? We’ve had bigger teams before, teams that weren’t necessarily in the mold of the Flying Frenchmen, teams that would pulverize the opposition with the likes of Dave Maley and Claude Lemieux and Craig Ludwig, and they were competitive and we could cheer for them, but they weren’t necessarily fun to watch, especially when the Oilers-Flames game was broadcast immediately after and featured end-to-end skating and non-stop action.

    So I’m torn. I know the veteran players allegedly asked Mr. Gauthier last year to add some size and muscle to the lineup during the off-season. I know how much it must suck to have to face idiots like Brad Ference and Paul Gaustad and take their crap while even stupider idiots in zebra stripes look on, their whistles evidently plugged up by their thick drool. I know Brendan Shanahan has either been NHL-ized and grown calluses on his sense of outrage, or simply been ordered to let the goon times roll. I know that players like Wayne Simmonds and Mike Brown will take runs at our best players if they know they will not face any opposition. I’m just not sure I want to give up and join the parade.

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    How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • caladin says:

      +100

      ____________________

      Keep Hope Alive

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      Great post!

    • jmsheehy19 says:

      I don’t think it’s fair to label Palushaj as impotent.

      He was in his first stint but that was because he was used on the 4th line despite even amateur reports that he can’t adapt to a grinder’s roll.

      While he could still use some time in the A, he’s been far more effective this call up.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        It may be a little strong choice of words. I’ve labelled him and Andreas Engqvist impotent in previous posts, based strictly on their production for the Canadiens so far, but not with respect to their reputedly fine work in Hamilton, and their career prospects.

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        How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

        • jmsheehy19 says:

          I definitely wasn’t singing his praises (and Engqvist even less so), but they both have played well with Hamilton and I thought looked better in the recent call up.

          I think we’ll get a better idea of their potential next year with the influx of talent coming into Hamilton next year.

          Also, great first post by the way. I always enjoy reading your comments.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Do you mean the Oilers with Semenko and or McSorley? Yah they were pretty on the ice. I hear your point, but let’s watch Schultz before we categorically dismiss his role and play on the team.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Not categorically dismissing him HiB, I hope he turns into the second coming of Mike McPhee, but I’m conflicted based upon his meager accomplishments so far in Hamilton.

        EDIT: And yes the Oilers could flat out fly with either of these enforcers on their roster. The Canadiens during the mid-eighties weren’t particularly fleet of foot, but they did have strong character players like Mike McPhee who did other things well.

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        How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I hear you, speaking of McPhee one of my buddies here was his teammate at RPI in college, couldn’t say enough great things about Mike.

        • Stev.R says:

          I don’t think Schultz is ready for the NHL or that he will have an extended stay this season, but it’s a good chance to give him some experience. He may get 5 or 6 games this season, 20-30 next season, and then he will be expected to compete for a fulltime spot. This is just another excericise in development. Hope he plays well, learns a lot, and has fun. He could turn out to be a real solid piece for our future bottom 6.

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            Steve.R, I’m totally on board if that’s the plan. Let’s give the kids a taste of the NHL and whet their appetite. Let’s build an organization where playing in Montreal is a privilege, but one you can earn through hard work and dedication.

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            http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • twocents says:

      I appreciate what you are getting at, but I don’t see this team as being on the verge of a tipping point in this way. Firstly, can we at least see Shultz play, not to mention we don’t even know if he will.

      But, more importantly, this team hasn’t turned into anything near a plodding bump and grind team. It still features tons of speed and most of our larger players are also very skilled. Eller, Pacioretty, Kostitsyn, Cole, Subban.

      We are witnessing more balance, which this team had in its heyday too.

      None of our players go around looking for fights or use intimidation as a tactic.

      So like I said, I appreciate your sentiment, but I think you are jumping the gun on any sort of tipping point.

    • Phil C says:

      If you really want to win a Cup, you must have an answer to all playing styles and tactics. All the great teams have this quality. The 1976 Canadiens were not exactly goons, but they were able to handle the Broad Street Bullie’s tactics. The 2010 Flyers were able to dispatch the Bruins in a tough seven game series, then match Montreal’s speed to make it to the finals. They were able to adapt their team’s playing style and identity to beat the opponent. This year’s Detroit team is very much a skilled hockey team, but you will NEVER run them out of their own rink. Their division is very tough and big, so if Detroit was not able to adapt to that playing style, they would not be in first place. Ottawa is another team that can play a tough or a finesse game as required.

      Teams like the Bruins will use intimation and violence to win hockey games, so it is important that the Habs have a counter punch to this strategy (IMO). Likewise, it is equally important that they retain their ability to play a speed and finesse game to match opponents like the Penguins.

      I like to think that adding a player like Shultz gives the Habs options for their playing style, rather than taking away from the existing style. Let’s hope Shultz can play hockey as well.

  5. M20 says:

    Should be a good game tonight! Enjoying the win streak, hoping for the playoffs, but if we don’t make it, dump some dead weight (Gill, Campoli, Gomer) in the offseason and go younger. Any first rounder will do, not a big fan of this year’s crop. As for the upcoming Bruins game, I think you guys should youtube Schultz before counting him out against anyone. He was one of the toughest guys in the WHL and I haven’t seen him drop too many decisions in the AHL either. He has a great style of game, and although he’s been slow to adjust to the pro game, he grinds hard and forechecks, not super talented but tough and gritty, and was the captain of the Hitmen for several seasons for a reason(and was decent offensively). People are saying he’s not an NHL player, how many so called experts thought that White would be an NHL player, or Gorges, or Desharnais, or anybody who wasn’t a first rounder? Before you all crap on his WHL toughness, remember thats where Lucy and Chara polished their craft as well, and they lost their share of fights there too. He at least won’t back down from anyone, he’ll for sure answer the bell, and while i’m not saying he’ll mop the floor with Lucic or Thornton, but I gaurantee he won’t do too badly either. Have some faith boys. We’re not going to win by gooning, but we also don’t have to sit back and take it from these guys either. Lets go out and beat the Canes then you can all work yourselves into a Lucic lather over how bad he’ll beat up Schultz….just remember you may eat some humble pie after. Schultz is a very similar fighter and size to Jim Vandermeer, and he gave Lucic all he could handle last year while with the Oilers. Let’s give this kid a few games and see what he can do! He’s young and malleable and with some seasoning, could be a diamond in the rough. If he develops into a good third or fourth liner like Thornton, then the Halak trade becomes better and better for us.
    Lets go habs!

  6. habrez says:

    Where’d seriousfan09 go?

  7. AliHaba says:

    So for the last couple of years the debate has been on over the Halak/Eller trade. Not much was made of Schultz except for the hope of many of us that he would become a hard-nosed forward someday. Well this week is the next step for “Sargeant”. Hopefully a force for years to come.

  8. slimjim111 says:

    Heard the Bulldogs lost to the Marlies but there was a ton of fights, including one where White kicked Kadri’s butt! Would love to see that one on youtube!

  9. Bripro says:

    All Shultz has to do is bare down on the goalie in body and (lack of) teeth, and that’ll have Ward pooping his pantaloons!

  10. homerbowen says:

    Glad to see White and Shultz called up but both not ready for a brawl with the Bruins. These 2 are not in shape for that and the outcome would probably be embarrasing. Stick to hockey and ignore Thornton and his goon tactics as there will be time for serious pushback in a year or two….NEVER FORGET!!!!

    I really enjoyed Sat night’s game and living in the Toronto area makes it that much sweeter. On air boys at the FAN 590 were quite subdued today as were our cheerleading friends over at the Toronto Sports Network (aka TSN).

    Still not confident that we will make the playoffs and really we don’t deserve to be in given our play this year. Not only that i don’t believe we are good enough to make any kind of run. i do hope we make some trades at the deadline for good prospects or draft picks.

    Happy Birthday Ian, I always enjoy your posts.

    Go Habs Go

  11. HabFanSince72 says:

    I thought the Kane for Miller rumours were a bit silly until I saw Kane’s stats: only 12 goals this year – on pace for 17.

    Never scored more than 30.

    He was drafted the same year as Max Pac.


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  12. HabFab says:

    Serious’s prospect report is out for all those following.

  13. FlyingFrenchie says:

    Hab’s Pregame Quiz…

    Tell us what happened to Schultzy”s front teeth.
    A) He went dancing with a lamp post
    B) He was given a free root canal by an unlicensed dentist.
    C) The result of opposing player practicing his dental exam.
    D) Part of a divorce settlement he received from his ex wife.

    Postscript: With his money he should get implants. My wife did and they look amazing…cough

  14. Forum Dog says:

    Gotta say, it’ll be good to see White get back in the lineup, whether tonight or the next game. Hopefully he backs me up with his play, but I think our bottom six forwards just got a whole lot tougher and more determined as a group. Would like to see him play with Eller and Kostitsyn.

    Schultz is likely just a physical deterrent for the Bruins game tomorrow. Won’t necessarily stop them from running around like they do, but Lucic, Marchand and Thornton will know that if they start taking liberties, either in front of the net or with the skill guys, they are gonna have to answer the bell. Even if they are accomplished fighters, having to chuck them with someone like Schultz will not be something they look forward to. I can see him nailing down a spot on the bottom 4 next year, but I doubt he sticks once Moen is healthy.

    Here’s hoping that Montreal comes out with the same fire they’ve show the last couple. Can’t take the Canes lightly, and can’t get into penalty trouble. They still have some good players over there.

  15. Kooch7800 says:

    @Habitant in Surrey – sorry man it wouldn’t let me respond on that thread.

    I haven’t seen anything about Avistin getting 10 games in the show but who knows. I really hope not though. He is struggling in Hamilton again this year. I have seen him play some fantastic hockey and make dazzling plays and then he vanishes and looks lost out there. He is still young, doesn’t speak English very well and I think he will get better but needs at least another full season in the AHL for that to happen

  16. Ian Cobb says:

    My gal is taking me out for my birthday supper and then heading over to Postie Jim’s to watch the game.
    Before we leave I just wanted to thank HIO staff and all my friends on here for your patients and help the past 6 years, with my literacy. How my life has change. This is my 6th birthday of 68yrs being able to read and write and communicate thanks to all of you. For here on HIO is where I was liberated. OK enough sentimentality!

    Lets go after two more points tonight. Enjoy!

  17. remi_10069 says:

    I suspect both White and Schultz will play tonight so as to test the waters before the big game against the B’s. I think it’s a good way to keep the momemtum going..bring in these guys and it’s unlikely the team comes out flat. Bad news is that the price of ticket for Wed just went up 20%.

    Win tonight and we’re at the right level post allstar ie 6-3 or 667%. That’s required to make the second season.

    pipes

  18. kempie says:

    I guess that Shultz and Eller would have some background. Didn’t they play together in Peoria or St. Louis or something?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Schultz was just a draftpick for them, he never played for Peoria, he was in Calgary prior to Hamilton.

    • savethepuck says:

      Schultz played junior with White in Calgary. The connection between Eller and Schultz is they were in the Halak trade together

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

  19. habs03 says:

    I don’t know why ppl think Schultz is being called up for the Bruins game, our games vs them this year have been pretty quiet. If anything maybe its for the Sabres game this week, specially after what Gaustad said to Patches..

  20. habs03 says:

    Holy crap!! Some poster on here was saying how we knew someone in the Hawks and there is a rumour of Kane to the Sabres for Miller, and now Nick Kypreos was talking about that rumour!

  21. Gerry H says:

    While I’m thrilled to see White getting back into the line-up soon, I’ve got to admit that the Schultz call-up seems like a bit of a gamble. It send a pretty clear message: they’re practically challenging the Bruins to a goonfest.

    Don’t get me wrong, this Habs team is much more robuste than last year’s edition. Swapping out Bourque for Cammalleri, White for Pyatt and Emelin for Sopel, then tossing in Cole and a rejuvenated MaxPac, means these guys are no longer the speedy smurfs of 10/11. But c’mon. What have we got to gain by playing that game?

    • christophor says:

      If management thinks they’re still in the race, then I think the call up is early. If not, then fine, test him and others out. Schultz is finally showing the promise of a checking forward who can put up a few points and play defence (a la Moen but maybe slightly better with his fists).

    • Mike MacPhee says:

      Don’t you think that Schultz is getting some time to see if he can step in if they want to trade Moen?

      • Gerry H says:

        Schultz is nowhere near being the best option at this stage, from what I can see. The checking forward role is clearly White’s, either with or instead of Moen. Schultz’s numbers aren’t in the same territory as those two, hockey-wise. For now, he’s a one-dimensional piece: muscle.

        I don’t quite get why the habs would want that kind of one-dimensional gamble at a time when they finally have a decent number of guys who can give both grit and game.

  22. Hobie Hansen says:

    It is going to be very interesting to watch The Cole and Pacioretty line play against the Bruins as well as Bourque.

    It will also be awesome to see White and Schultz and hitting people and causing a disturbance. Hopefully Moen is ready to go as well.

    Maybe Subban or Emelin will deliver a beauty open ice hit?

    I have a feeling the Bruins will want to prove that these additions to the Canadiens and change in philosophy don’t equate to much and will want to put a stop to the party fairly quickly. Guaranteed Thornton will have his gloves dropped in the first 5 minutes.

    It should be an interesting night to say the least. Hopefully we win too ;-)!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Listening to RC talk about Moen in the scrum today I didn’t get the impression Moen would be playing until end of the week at soonest.

    • powdered toastmann says:

      Yeah – re the (S)ize… not so much & (G)rit…definately …agree…Habs are totally overmatched in this department (in both numbers of players who contribute in this way and in collective, effective toughness).

      But, Habs have handled the Bruins in the past relying on hard work, speed.

      Unfortunately if Bruins work just as hard…and the going gets tough, the result may not be pretty.

  23. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I know We once had My Hero John Ferguson, Chuckles Knuckles Nilan and John Kordic …but I think the rules of the NHL have changed dramatically since those days, and I don’t see ANY need for a Player like Shultz

    …We have some gritty skilled Players now, like Cole, Patches, Moen, White, Kostitsin, …in fact I believe We are more than capable of playing tough skilled hockey without the Shultz type

    …unless there is more to His game that I don’t know about yet, I think Shultz is unnecessary, certainly for Carolina, as well the Gooins

    I like the Team as it is these past 5 to 6 games …why fiddle with it ?

    …I can understand a Ferguson or Nilan-type, but I don’t think Shultz is in that league

    …hope I’m wrong

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

    • habs17 says:

      lets wait and see what he brings to the table before you are trying to get rid of the guy already lets see what he can do

      I support Scott Gomez

    • shiram says:

      Emelin is the perfect kind of player for that gritty tough physical kinda game.
      Hits like a train, but never steps out of line, and keeps his penalty minutes way down.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      …..well do you know much about Schultz? Yes, he fights….BUT he is also a great penalty killer, has some hands and is a good ground and pounder.

      he can play

    • HabinBurlington says:

      While I understand the sentiment of your post, unfortunately I think the NHL still refuses to police aspects of the game. The most recent example was Brown on Saturday running players freely. He knew nobody was going to essentially tell him to stop. With no Moen, White, Blunden in the lineup he was just given free room.

      To me Schultz is only effective if he can provide a forecheck, if all he does is fight and hurts the 4th line, then there is no need for him, that I agree completely.

      But one thing about Saturday, PK slew footed Kessel, that behaviour has to stop. I didn’t expect PK to fight Brown late in the 3rd, but I also don’t disagree with Brown going after PK. PK cheapshotted the Leafs best player.

      I love PK, just don’t understand why he does these dirty plays with almost regularity (cue screaming responses). By this I mean, it seems every week or 2nd week he gives out a slew foot.

      That is a no no play in the NHL and must stop.

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …agree Pk has to stop this because it only generates tit-for-tat …it’s a dangerous play which I keep feeling disappointed in PK when I see Him repeat it …at least 3 times this year

        Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
        http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

      • Kooch7800 says:

        PK is such a talent but he has a major problem between the ears….

        You know damn well he has been talked to about that type of play and has been fined for it already this year. He should get suspended so maybe he will wake up a bit.

        Plays like that make me wonder about PK. Yes, he is young but sooner or later he is going to have to answer for plays like that

    • ont fan says:

      Maybe they are just getting a look before trade deadline to see what they have and what they haven’t.

  24. Mattyleg says:

    Did we sow the wind on Saturday?
    Because I’d like to reap the Hurricane.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  25. --Habs-- says:

    Well the Habs did bring in an enforcer to handle the opposition. He was too busy on facebook and twitter and wouldn’t fight anyone he deemed beneath him. SO he was fired. What did Laraque think he was being paid for his hockey skills! When he was with the club all big George had to do was pound the crap out of lets say Mark Savard and the game would have been over. When your an enforcer your not there to scare other enforcers but rather keep the fear in the players that if they screw around the best enforcer was going to come after me instead of our enforcer. Right now I think the Habs with White, Shultz, Moen, Bourque and Subban can handle themselves against the Bruins. Just kidding about Subban! :) Never seen Blunden fight! Can he?

    • habs17 says:

      Ya laraque was awful he made up his own rules that didnt even excist the guy was a bum he was good for 1 thing and didnt even do it what a waste

      I support Scott Gomez

    • powdered toastmann says:

      Blunden?…no

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I was so happy for him to come and he was a joke. He should donate all the money from the last couple years to charity. I loved the fact that Gainey basically called him out for doing nothing and got rid of him.

      You know it is bad when the company you work for would rather pay you not to come to work

    • powdered toastmann says:

      In his prime, Laraque was the best. Hab mgmnt mistake…sign him near end of his career w/o doing their homework re the medical condition of his back.

      (also weren’t aware of his growing preference for veggies over steak)

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I think the back was a convenient excuse at the time, because in interviews I have heard this year, he speaks of JM not letting him fight. He finally got his big payday and became Roberto Duran, No Mas!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Blunden is not afraid to get involved, but he is no former Golden Glove winner, unlike say Nick Fotiu… Blunden gets A for effort and D for achievment as far as fighting goes. But I love what he brings to the ice for this team.

  26. habs17 says:

    im expecting to see a pre game video or a standing O for gomez this man deserves it after what hes done in his HOF career GO HABS LETS GO TO THE PLAYOFFS

    I support Scott Gomez

  27. alwayssunny says:

    It’s safe to say we can chalk up two points tonight and move to within a point of 10th. I’m glad to see Schultz brought up. I know most writers here have insisted for years that there is no place on Les Canadiens for a player like him and that it is better to have your dignity stripped from you than to take an instigator penalty, but i disagree. He will help us no matter who we meet in the first round.

    I’m glad I’m not reading any more insanity about tanking and that the organization has more patience than the so called fans. So fickle. Take Gomez. He goes into a slump and everybody is criticizing the poor guy from the comfort or their chairs. Now that he is earning that contract they have suddenly gone very quiet. Next time you go bashing a guy who has potted 20 goals for us in less than 3 years, try to imagine what he was going through. When he was putting on his Gucci suit and driving his Maserati to Toque! for filet mignon this guy had the weight of the world on his shoulders.

    I still hope our GMs are working the phones and trying to get us one more player for the postseason. How would you guys like to see Briere or Keith Ballard in the CH? They only have a few more years on their contracts and if they don’t pan out you can just do what I keep reading people here say about Kaberle – just trade him. It’s that simple. Gauthier will probably have a busy enough summer but another player he might be willing to take a chance on is Mattias Ohlund. He has made bold moves like that before. This guy used to be a heck of a player and if they can get those knees fixed, him and Markov could be pretty dangerous back there. Just some thoughts.

  28. Bob_Sacamano says:

    Who is that Shultz I read about in every other post? Is he related to Georges?

  29. krob1000 says:

    The last two times the team has been on a semi roll were before the Christmas break and the all star break…both times the layoff cooled the team down. I can see them winning 5 of the next 7…and that is dangerous territory as that would bring us to the deadline…and likely 3-5 points out. Itneresting stuff….

    To keep things in perspective though folks if the teams behind us simply win their game in had we are still in 14th…but the lights are not completely out. I would prefer to make the playoffs but will be heartbroken if we lose Moen, Gill and Ak for nothing and don’t draft one of the top 4 forwards and finish 9th or 10th.

    • habs17 says:

      we dont have to lose them for nothing if you resign these guys

      I support Scott Gomez

      • krob1000 says:

        Gill’s days in Miontreal are done, Moen would be nice but not for more than current money, Ak…I would like to keep. The cap moving forward also likely means that if White/Schultz are capable of handling Moen’s duties then you factor in he probably nets a late 2nd ruonder or mid 3rd rounder and White can be signed for around 800k….and Moen likely wants and deserves over 2 million per….it becomes a pretty easy decision. If White is not deemed able to fill that role….and Shultz looks completely out of place…then perhaps you make room somewhere else but I think Moen and Gill are likely gone…

  30. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Ian Shultz; …I hope this Dude is more than a one dimensional meathead

    …sure looks like someOne the Hansen Bros. keep in the basement for their sexual pleasure

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  31. HabinBurlington says:

    Gauthier change in philosophy? Not in my opinion, rather, finally a coach wililng to play a more agressive game. JM’s mantra for years has to been to play the higher skill/defensively responsible people and not the physical players. I think PG started to bring in more physical people, but JM didn’t want them, so PG was bringing in players to suit the coach. Now that the coach is more on the same page, PG I think will continue to try and satisfy the coach’s needs.

    However, my issue with that, is why didn’t PG TELL JM what kind of players he wanted the team to be. I am generalizing alot in my statement, but that is what I viewed the issue to be.

    • habs03 says:

      Very good point. But I think the coach and GM should be on the same page. I guess that can be excused since Martin was hired by Gainey and not Gauthier, and up until this season, we didn’t have any reason to fire JM.

  32. habs17 says:

    9 days ago we have a 3% of making the playoffs now we at 19% keep playing like this and well be at 100% of in the playoffs

    I support Scott Gomez

  33. Hobie Hansen says:

    It has been far too long since the Canadiens brought in some added muscle for a game like the one they’re going to play against the Bruins on Wednesday.

    I’ve been beside myself for years now with Gauthier, Martin and Gainey paying little or no attention to the fact the other teams are taunting and beating on the Canadiens and sometimes embarrassing them.

    If Cunneyworth was the one who turned to Gauthier and asked for Schultz to be called up it’s a huge breath of fresh air and he’s a great coach. You’d have to think that White would have been called up when ready anyways.

    Schultz isn’t going to scare McQuaid or Thornton or Lucic but at least he’ll stand up for himself and the team. White as well.

    I think the game in Boston last year when Pyatt, Spacek and Hamerlik were beat on and offered zero resistance was an embarrassment for the club and totally swung the momentum in Boston’s favor and had the Canadiens off their game heading into the playoffs.

    Boston totally knew from that point that the could squash the Canadiens when push came to shove and they offered zero physical resistance and were timid to even touch the puck.

    Shultz is a start, Tinordi will be an awesome sheriff in a couple years and lets just hope this is the start of the Canadiens fighting their way back to respectability and not be labeled as the softest team in the league.

    Hopefully the GM adds more toughness on defense and the 3rd/4th lines this summer.

    Go Habs Go.

    • shiram says:

      That night was an embarrassement for the NHL.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        I’d have to disagree with you Shiram. If it were the Habs delivering the beating I’d have loved it. It’s a part of hockey and if a team isn’t ready for it they’re not built correctly.

        • shiram says:

          It clearly showed the lack of control the refs and the league had over the players.
          I would not have liked it if the Habs were delivering such beatings to non-fighters, punching when they were down and all.

          • habs17 says:

            i also agree with hobie hanson on this one it happens in hockey sometimes and the habs did not back down which i loved to see

            I support Scott Gomez

          • Kooch7800 says:

            I agree Shram. It was/is bad when fighters are picking on guys who don’t fight. Pyatt getting his butt handed too him was just wrong when the other guy is a fighter. I would not be too fond if Schultz was pounding someone like Patrice Bergeron…it is just classless.

            It was even worse of the league to do nothing about it. The Boston Bruins style is over the line but the league never disciplines them for their actions. they just penalize the next team to do something similar

    • Timo says:

      Well… that alone won’t make him a great coach. He simply asked for the same thing that every single Habs fan with a pair of eyes has been asking for at least 5 years now.

    • Phil C says:

      I think it was Martin who did not believe in toughness. Gainey did sign Laraque, Gauthier traded for Shultz, but there is not much the GM can do if the coach won’t play your tough guys. If you look when Martin coached in Florida, he ran all their tough guys out of town as well. To me, this change is the result of Cunneyworth’s influence, as he played with an edge himself. I am sure he hated watching Brown run around Saturday night with no response from the Habs.

      I just hope Shultz can play some hockey as well, the Habs have had some good chemistry lately so I hope this does not disrupt what was working.

  34. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Dave Stubbs:
    Earlier this season when suggestions were made that may be the team should call up Ian schultz, you said that he wasn’t NHL material. Just wondering if you still feel the same way and do you think he brings anything to this team?

    • Kooch7800 says:

      in Stubbs defense, schultz last season didn’t play well and has had injuries this season early but since around december has really started playing well…not just fighting. In a grinding role, penalty killing etc he is really starting to take shape. I think he will be on the habs roster next year

    • christophor says:

      Schultz had shown nothing until December. He was frequently scratched at the AHL level. In the WHL, he looked like he could become a rugged NHL-bottom-six-er who could pop in a few goals – i.e. more than a one-dimensional goon. That didn’t translate to the AHL until recently.

      As of late, he’s showing he can provide tertiary scoring responsible defensive play. Hopefully he can develop into an ideal 4th liner: put up 20pts-season, bang a few bodies, and be an adequate PK-guy.

  35. Timo says:

    Why do I have a feeling that Habs will lay a goose egg tonight?

  36. Storm Man says:

    In the Boston game and the feeling I have why Schultz and White will be in the line up for that game is max pac it playing great hockey and the punks for boston will try and rub him out… Lucic won’t fight Schultz as he only picks fights with guys who don’t fight much and if Schultz does get Lucic to drop them it won’t be the miss match some of you on here think it will be… Schultz is bigger than 201 trust me on that… I’m 6’1 225 and have bumped in Schultz when he played for the hit men and he was over the the 200 pound mark than. I hope White gets his hands on the little rat 63… All in all should be a fun filled game on is on TSN be fun to here the homers from Toronto talk the Habs down before the game and be in shock after they own the tea party boys from Boston.

  37. mfDx says:

    I was thinking the other day that it would be nice for all teams to collude and throw their attack dogs at the bruins for the last 20 games, night after night, so by the time the playoffs start they’d be the Big, Battered Bruisins

    Sent from my CHphone

  38. Matt04 says:

    There’s cause to be reasonably optimistic about the remainder of the season and beyond. Only my second post, so I should say right off the bat that I don’t endorse ‘tanking’ in any way. That’s just not right. The team is, rather surprisingly, beginning to play its best hockey of the season. As RGM mentioned, it’s hard to predict what’s going to happen on (and off) the ice, especially in relation to the results expected of a roster on paper. However, taking things with a generous grain of salt, I am, as I said, optimistic, especially if they can ink in a W after three tonight. This is a (theoretical) should-win. Unfortunately, they often don’t show up for these games. Anyway, I suppose it goes without saying that if they keep reeling off the W’s they will continue to be the hottest team in the conference going down the stretch. That’s a beautiful thing. If management is smart, we could have a very young, very talented, well balanced team to ice in the near future.

  39. Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

    So what’s our magic number?

    ____________________________________________________
    Dear Mtl Canadiens,
    Please beat Boston to tie the season series. You are about to cost me three bottles of rum in a little over a year.
    Love,
    Michael

  40. HabFanSince72 says:

    The size queens are all in a-tizzy over the young stickman Ian Schultz.

    He’ll challenge Lucic, lose, and never be heard from again.


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  41. habs17 says:

    cmon we need to make the playoffs nothing better then warm weather and watching hockey sun not going down till 9 cmon LETS MAKE THE PLAYOFFS

    I support Scott Gomez

  42. Ali says:

    wow, PG must be really serious about this “players with size” thing. Must’ve seen something nobody else has?

    • habs03 says:

      Actually most of PG moves since becoming GM have been to bring in size and grit, even small moves such as Russel for Blunden, resigning White over Pyatt..

      • Ali says:

        Why wasn’t he making the same recommendations as head of pro scouting? He was the guy who said to get Gionta, Cammalleri, Gomez, Niinimaa, etc

        • habs03 says:

          How do we know that he recommended them? Its like saying PG recommended that Gainey asks for Gorges in the Rivet trade…

          Ps, please don’t put Gionta on that list, the guy is 5’7, but plays like he is 6’3, all he does is score dirty goals.

          • Ali says:

            as head of pro scouting, its his job. who else would recommend them?

          • Stev.R says:

            Well considering we needed a new first line and Gio, Gomez and Cammy were the only guys that were realistically available, that may have been a reason why we went and got them.

          • habs03 says:

            No one truly knows what PG recommended on Gomez, he could have told him, he was good for 50-60 points, but on the decline, not worth 7.3M, but can provide leadership, and Gianey simply decided he wanted to make the move anyways. Point is, I choose to judge PG on his moves since becoming GM, and when looking at his moves vs Gianey they are not the same type of moves.

      • jon514 says:

        Well… Wiz did not have size. Kab is smaller than Spatcho. Diaz, Campoli, Weber are all smaller than Mara, Sopel and Hamrlik…. Nope I’d say he’s brought in a lot more youth than size.

        “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

        • habs03 says:

          If you look at the organizational overall, he has brought more size and grit. Traded up to get Tinordi, brought over Emelin, Bourque, etc.

          • jon514 says:

            RE the current NHL roster: Size upfront yes. Youth on the backend, but we’ve actually gotten smaller. I’d like to see all the D under 6ft get shipped off though. I think some extra size on the blue line would do wonders for this team.

            “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

          • habs03 says:

            We are smaller on the backend, but I think that has a lot to do with injuries. Weber doesn’t have a future with the team, Campoli was signed for depth, Diaz would have been in the AHL if it wasn’t for injuries. But if you look at the up and coming d-men in the system, all have size, Tinordi, Beaulieu, even guys like Morgan Ellis and Greg Pateryn.

          • jon514 says:

            You’re right about the guys coming down the pipeline at D. In 3 years our blue line will rival any in the league!

            “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

        • Stev.R says:

          Kab is bigger than Spatcho.
          Mara and Sopel can’t skate.
          Next.

          • jon514 says:

            Hey you’re right Kab is bigger than Spatcho! Just doesn’t use his size… but I still prefer him as a hab.

            As for Mara and Sopel: The discussion wasn’t their talent but their size. Weber, Diaz. If you want me to add the three numbers for you I can:

            (6′ 4″ + 6′ 2″ + 5′ 11″) > (5′ 11″ + 5′ 11″ + 6′ 1″)

            and in pounds:

            (219 + 205 + 206) > (180 + 180 + 214)

            As it happens Mara and Sopel both had 40+ pt seasons with a positive +/-. Sopel also won a cup and has played shutting down some of the best in the world.

            “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

          • 24moreCups says:

            @jon514- Yes Mara and Sopel both had 40+ pt seasons and yes Sopel did win a cup but where are they playing now?

            Sopel is playing somewhere in the KHL and Mara I don’t think he’s playing anywhere, no other team in the NHL wanted them either.

            I do agree we are too small on the back end and would like a bigger guy or two back there.

  43. habs-hampton says:

    Finally… a guy who LOOKS like a hockey player!!!

  44. ABHabsfan says:

    Nice shot of Schultz, teeth like that can make a real mess of a guy’s knuckles.
    He’s got summer teeth; sum’r here sum’r there!

  45. habs17 says:

    “This is the strongest team the Canadiens have had since 1993″ – Jacques Demers wow jacques said before the start of the season

    I support Scott Gomez

    • RGM says:

      And on paper he was right. This was a squad that looked primed to make a big jump over their 6th place finish from 2010-11 and really give the Bruins a run for their money. Consider:
      * It was expected that Markov may miss October and some of November, tops.
      * P.K. Subban would build off his fantastic freshman campaign in which he tied a team record for goals by a rookie D-man.
      * Max Pacioretty would be back better than ever.
      * There was no way Scott Gomez could have had a worse year than his 2010-11 campaign.
      * Though they had decent numbers, Brian Gionta and Mike Cammalleri figured to be much better in the season ahead.
      * Carey Price was coming off the biggest year of his young career and was primed to continue to improve, and was pegged by The Hockey News as the front-runner for the Vezina.
      * Erik Cole would be a valued contributor good for 20-25 goals.

      You look at those major items there – how many have come to pass? It just goes to show how difficult predictions are, especially ones made about the future.

      ———————–
      GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is probably not our year!
      “Scott Gomez, a potential Hall of Fame player, has two Stanley Cup rings and a Calder Trophy that says ‘I’m a player whom any authentic NHL coach will rely on to fix a game problem.’” – VancouverHab

      Chat with me on Twitter @TheRealRGM81

      • HabFab says:

        I said over the summer that I had no idea how this team would do as there were about a dozen “if’s” that could have us challenging for the Division or missing the play-offs or any position in between. Three positives have been;
        – Gorges coming back strong after his surgery
        – Max coming back strong after his injury
        – Either Emelin or Diaz being NHL ready
        The other nine have been less then, although if Price keeps it up, we may have another.

        • jedimyrmidon says:

          Can’t forget Cole’s night-after-night efforts + he’s one of the top point producers on the Habs. Best UFA signing in the league this past year, in my opinion.

          • HabFab says:

            I was expecting Cole to do well, maybe not as well as he has done but. Another positive I missed above was the continued developement of DD and Eller.

    • The Cat says:

      I dont know how he could say that, maybe he was just doing some lip service cause the D-corps looked thin & sketchy right from the start.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  46. habsfanforever7631 says:

    Nice, maybe they could drop em when we need it.
    Better watch out Lusic Schultz is coming after ya! lol

  47. Mattyleg says:

    Afternoon all,
    I may be late to the party with this one, but did anyone see this high school goal?

    Pretty nuts.

    Going to miss the game tonight. Have to check Canadiens Express after.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  48. Booyacaja says:

    Schultz once said in an interview he wants to fight Lucic. Is that why he was called up? Not sure I’d want to see that lol.

  49. dbens says:

    love how theres no mention of markov on that “second sheet of ice”

    “This is the strongest team the Canadiens have had since 1993″ – Jacques Demers

  50. montreal ace says:

    Nothing like the sparking smile of a rookie call up

  51. kirkiswork says:

    I agree.


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