And who’s going to give it to him?
• The lessons of this year’s market
• Brian Burke keeps his promise
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That’s what I mean though — relative to those other UFAs, he’s making more but also has far more to offer. Again, if Armstrong is worth $3M, Plekanec is easily worth $5M.
Like a bad smell, just won’t go away…
XXIV…and counting
Maybe we should let PK get one NHL season under his belt before we declare he’s ready to fill Markov’s shoes.
id make that trade anyday
That trade is so messed up I’m just going to call it a Milbury and be done with it.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/
I love how he tries to change his writing style, too. Hahahah
Agree with your statement wholeheartedly.
And I’ll pretend I didn’t see your PS as I know that in the meantime, you will have doublechecked your data.
Keepin it real, I be chillin as
L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com
Somebody tell Gauthier to hurry up and trade for Filatov. Columbus is in win-now mode. I’d even reluctantly trade Markov for him. Columbus gets their puck-moving D-man, Habs get young sniper with a low cap hit. Subban fills Markov shoes as OFD and either Weber or Carle make the team this year and help run the PP. Worst case scenario is the season’s a disaster and the Habs draft Sean Couturier, the elusive French Canadian superstar to annoint their lord and saviour.
Sigh, here we go again…
chemistry with AK 46? not sure about that one.
chemistry with Cammy – agreed.
hes back!!!
thats a good contract, If Lats keeps up his stats thats a great deal with low risk since its only 2 years
Hate going backwards.
Clearly he fits in with a lot of the other Russian players in that he wants the big contract with a team that doesn’t make the playoffs, or make a good run in the playoffs, because you only get paid for regular season (bonuses aside) and he DOESN’T CARE about winning a Cup. He can go to the KHL with all other Ruski’s for all I care.
maybe he just really doesnt wanna play for the teams that have offered so far
Kinda surprised no one is yappin’ about the Latendresse contract in minny for 5M over 2 years…
yup.
also offered over 4 million to Komisarek last summer.
and, if I’m not mistaken, around 4 or 5 million to Kovalev.
Always liked Hammer. It’s a shame guys like him and Gomez get dumped all over for the amount of money they make, as if anyone here would say no to a sather-esque contract to play a game?
Oh and PS Bugs Forlan is a striker not a midfielder…. Bastien all the way!
tony!!!
BG did offer him a 5yr 5M$ contract didnt he ?
They killed Andreas Escobar…
AT the time, he was the young star of the Columbian WC team that scored in his own net. Like you said, he went out to party one night soon after, got into a fight after some guys were bothering him about it, and bang.
That was it.
“These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack
i’m with you!
IMO, if kovy was greedy, he would’ve signed for 100M$ which he was offered. Maybe he’s … negotiating …
Who ISN’T overpaid?
Josh Gorges
I couldn’t tell you. I watched the Escobar doc on TSN and the other on HBO.
I tell you, the Magic and Bird one was excellent.
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“Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
- Sam Pollock
Who said the Devils were a winning team? Trap hockey nonstop doesn’t always guaruntee a win. You could literally see the frustration mount in Kovalchuk, he was trying to do everything himself in the last few games.
Think Kovy + Ovechkin or Kovy + Crosby. The habs were a Kovalchuk away from a Stanely Cup. He needs to choose a team with goals and decent scorers.
Who ISN’T overpaid?
Which guy makin MILLIONS playing a game a lotta folk would do for free is UNDERPAID?
C’mon.
The Hamr is all that. Love the guy. Great veteran contribution. Excellent signing for the Habs. Proud to have him on the team.
Keepin it real, I be chillin as
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So, who do you think would pay him?
damn…i guess ovechkin sucks too…
Hamrlik is overpayed but he was and remains our best D-man with Markov out.
Beautiful story about Brian Burke and his family. Thanks for sharing, Boone.
I still don’t understand why Kovalchuk wouldn’t take a 1-2 year 5-6 mil contract and get himself a cup or two. Imagine if he joined the caps or pens (before large blueline signings)?
Instead he demands money that only a bottom dweller with no stars can afford. I’m sorry but this tells me he’s greedy, not looking for a cup. If he’s as good as he thinks he is a short term contract on a winning team would only INCREASE his value.
Escobar’s “INVOLVEMENT” in the drug trade??? His involvement??? He was the KING. The LORD AND MASTER of the drug trade. Was more than “involved”.
Until the Yanks shot him on the roof of his house and showed the corpse to his mommy, that is. “There’s your son, ma’am.”
We kinda figured the bad guys might be involved when they killed Saldariga (or whatever) after the own-goal took’em out of a tournament. ’94 in the US of A unless I’m mistaken.
Done gone walked into a bar he was drinkin in and blew’m away, easy as you please.
Keepin it real, I be chillin as
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Wow, BG was so dumb not to sign SS an often injured d-man to a $5,500,000.00 5 year contract , while the oilers were so smart. Guess Bob was right. just think, what that cap hit would have done right now. For $500,000 i’d sign him to a 1 year deal for the PP, if the mighty MAB does not return. Also PK will be around a long time however Weber, I don’t believe is ready for prime time and may never be.
funny that you brought up Israel in conjunction with you support of liberty. should ask the palestinians how they feel about Israel’s connection with the concept of liberty.
I just checked quickly on the net, including ESPN.COM, for a complete box-set of all the ESPN Films made.
I couldn’t find one though, they just sell them individually for 15$. I know I can DL them off the net straight onto my hard-drive, but do you know if they came out with collector box-sets or something?
“These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack
No problem. Had many of those.
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“Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
- Sam Pollock
Miss me?
Betty!
Aw come on, we didn’t overpay — sure Pleks makes more money than guys like Prospal, Cullen and Jokinen, but that’s because he has way more to offer. Would you trade him for any of them?
Pleks got 70 points last year, defended leads and killed every penalty. Aside from Marleau, who’s earning $2M more than him, none of those guys did that. None of them even scored 60 points, and several didn’t even manage 50. If a 3rd-line 29-point banger like Armstrong gets $3M, you don’t think Plekanec is worth $5M?
slight correction – Zherdev was drafted 4th in 2003 – and played on the same team as AK46 CSKA Moskow.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=70844
I truly believe that the Habs were scouting Zherdev at a CSKA Moscow game, when they stumbled on AK 46.
they took AK46 # 10 in 2003 – notwithstanding his epilepsy, and the fact that he had missed most of his draft year injured.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=70846
its amazing how long NHL teams will wait for their # 1 picks to shine.
the scouts take a big hit when a #1 pick does not end up making an impact at the NHL level, a ton of
money, training resources, etc goes in to making sure these # 1′s pan out.
That was a really good one. The main thing I got from that, don’t score on your own team in the big game. Yikes!
Just watched, Magic and Bird. Another excellent doc.
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“Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
- Sam Pollock
Doesnt look like aging defenseman (Souray cleared waivers) have alot of value right now, I don’t see anyone taking him. Though if the Habs throw in a prospect or pick someone might take him…
why wow? means gio is popular while poo poo isnt? lol
Was that not a great story or what?
I’m not sure if the Jack in my system influenced the weight of the story or not. But I will watch it again tonight without any substances in me just to make sure.
I’m positive it will still be crazy.
“These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack
I’m afraid everyone overpays for so-called professional talent these days. What’s a few mil here or there, right?
FREE TIMO!
Aside from Marleau (who’s making a mint), I’d take Plekanec over any of those guys for Pleks’s $5M. His production and tendency to stay healthy make him a really valuable commodity, and I find we tend to undervalue our own players while overvaluing guys on other teams — sort of a “grass is always greener” complex. Pleks is worth every penny, and I’m thrilled to have him at that price.
Just an observation:
I’m at Dorval Airport yesterday (yup, I still call it that), going back to Vancouver and I wanted to pick up a Gio T-Shirt at that Habs store. Well, they didn’t have any. What they did have was three racks of Pouliot shirts. Wow.
I saw that as well – chilling stuff.
hmm AK or Zherdev… Zherdev! Equally young and enigmatic, but more speed and consistency (not by much)
OK, OK, OK….
Enough talk about the greater Kovy, how we can trade Hamrlik even though nobody wants him, how we can trade for Gagne (who’s made of glass), blah blah blah…..
I’m here to tell you guys how to spend about 2 hours of your life watching one of the best sport/political films I have ever seen. Friday night I was buzzing on half a bottle of Gentlemen’s Jack, when I tuned in to TSN at midnight. What I found was another one of the usually great “ESPN Films”, this one however about Pablo Escobar and his influence on Columbian soccer. Now just to let you all know, soccer doesn’t really fizz me. I prefer many sports over it, and I’ll only watch the World Cup because I feel it is somewhat of a human obligation; the same way we find ourselves sometimes watching water-polo or cross-country skiing in the Olympics.
But for those 2 hours on Friday night/Saturday morning, I found myself litterally glued to the flat-screen. First of all, ESPN is the mecca of television sports coverage. They find the best and most entertaining ways to make every story a great story. And trust me when I say this, they nailed this one. Escobar is known for his involvement in the drug trade, but his passion for the sport of soccer was insane.
I don’t know how else to explain it, but trust me when I say you have to watch this film. I’m sure you can find it on Youtube. Just find it and watch it, lol…
ps- I saw the Reggie Miller “ESPN Films” documentary a few months ago and it was also good.
“These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack
OK, performance bonus: Score 50 and get free pickles!
Speaking as a student of history, an advocate of liberty and democracy, and a supporter of Israel, I am deeply offended by your original comment. Your follow-ups were offensive on a personal level. Your insincere, backhanded apology is contemptible – you can keep it.
Scotty Bowman said it best: “Don’t trade Carey Price.”
i want only 1 enigma, so if we sign him, Kosty has to go…
We may have overpaid for him but we needed to. He has great chemistry with cammy and ak46 and he is a tremendous 2 way forward. plus a fan favorite, it was something that PG needed to do. he is also much, much, better than any of those players except marleau. people love olli jokinen for some reason, fact of the matter is that he sucks and has only succeeded when he was the top dog in the dressing room on the ice (florida). everywhere else, phoenix (doan). calgary (iggy), and NYR (lundy/gaborik) he has been awful.
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i rather nikita filatov…zherdev’s an enigma much like andrei kostitsyn…i would even take maxim afinogenov ahead of zherdev.
Currently signed:
C- Scott GOMEZ = 7.357143
C- Mike CAMMALLERI = 6.0
C- Tomas PLEKANEC = 5.0
C- Lars ELLER = 1.270833
C- Ben MAXWELL = 0.850
C- Dustin BOYD = 0.650
C- Tom PYATT = 0.500
RW- Brian GIONTA = 5.0
RW- Ryan WHITE = 0.850
LW- Andrei KOSTITSYN = 3.250
LW- Travis MOEN = 1.500
LW- Benoit POULIOT = 1.375
LW- Max PACIORETTY = 0.875
D- Andrei MARKOV = 5.750
D- Roman HAMRLIK = 5.500
D- Jaroslav SPACEK = 3.833
D- Hal GILL = 2.250
D- Josh GORGES = 1.100
D- Ryan O’BYRNE = 0.942
D- P.K. SUBBAN = 0.875
D- Yannick WEBER = 0.875
G- Alex AULD = 1.0
BUYOUT: Georges LARAQUE = 0.500
TOTAL = 57.102976
LINE-UP
CAMMALLERI – PLEKANEC – KOSTITSYN
POULIOT – GOMEZ – GIONTA
PACIORETTY – ELLER – PYATT
MOEN – BOYD – WHITE
MAXWELL
MARKOV – O’BYRNE
HAMRLIK – SUBBAN
SPACEK – GORGES
GILL – WEBER
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AULD
Jamie’s Hockey Blog
By Jamie Fitzpatrick
Summer of the Pay Cut
http://proicehockey.about.com/b/2010/07/04/summer-of-the-pay-cut.htm
Zherdev is looking to come back to the NHL. Should we go after him? He was the #4 pick in 2004, scored 20+ goals in his last season in the NHL.
just noticed this..Arron Asham is a UFA! Sign him Gauthier, this is the type of player we need!
1.5 over 2 years….750k cap hit….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmPFvH3jJZw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FOSAxfmsNQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBIjvDUFdOM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5So3p4PIhqQ&feature=related
so with some UFA signings already done…how is plekanec’s 5million/yr contract looking?
matt lombardi: 3.5/yr
jokinen: 3/yr
matt cullen: 3.5/yr
marleau: 6.9/yr
Koivu: 2.5/yr
whitney: 3/yr
armstrong 3/yr
prospal: 2.1/yr
would plekanec really have commanded 5/yr in the market or did we over pay before we saw what people were paying?
i think plekanec has a bit more to offer than the players listed above so his contract seems alright since most of the players who signed are old.
i’m still waiting for the satori…I’ll let you know when it hits.
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“Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot
ya.. that too… who’d take him? Philly’s jaked on D now..
I wouldn’t keep Hammer either but Souray is done… great guy but the injuries kill chemistry… go with O’byrne no?
Yo, Calgary Flames, everything comes in threes….do you want Hamrlik back?
Agree and I think that trading Hammer will be next to impossible at his rate. Maybe at the deadline but not now.
great article about Burke…
Souray is but a shadow of his former self. Too many injuries. He was a favourite of mine, but I wouldn’d take him back now.
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“Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot
The possibilities endless yet realistic (tell me that does not look sexy!)
I agree, Hammer should be moved. He’s getting a salary that reflects an offensive ability that we haven’t seen from him in years. Like Gomer his salary is grossly inflated from his point production, and you can’t afford to be sentimental when running a team in a salary cap reality.
If I were habs GM…
Trade Harmlik for anything at this point (a 4th rounder would do) *- 5.5mil
Trade A. Tits to Philly with a 2nd round for Asham and Gagne +4mil
Pick up Souray on reentry waivers +2.5mil (our power play would be deadly…)
Line 1) Gagne – Gomez – Gionta
Line 2) Pouliot – Pleks – Cammy
Line 3) Asham – Eller – Lapierre
Line 4) Moen – Boyd – Pyatt
Line 1 D) Markov – Subban
Line 2 D) Spakec – Souray
Line 3 D) Gill – Georges
If you are truly offended, than my apologies, and I retract my tongue-in-cheek statement. If – as I believe – you are just being a d**k, then I retract my apology.
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“Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot
Apologies, mate..had a rough day, and it went over my head.
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“Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot
Trade Hamrlik and A. Kostitsyn then we can sign Kovalchuk to a 8 years 8
mil per contract