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That was a really good one. The main thing I got from that, don’t score on your own team in the big game. Yikes!
Just watched, Magic and Bird. Another excellent doc.
“Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
– Sam Pollock
Doesnt look like aging defenseman (Souray cleared waivers) have alot of value right now, I don’t see anyone taking him. Though if the Habs throw in a prospect or pick someone might take him…
why wow? means gio is popular while poo poo isnt? lol
Was that not a great story or what?
I’m not sure if the Jack in my system influenced the weight of the story or not. But I will watch it again tonight without any substances in me just to make sure.
I’m positive it will still be crazy.
“These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack
I’m afraid everyone overpays for so-called professional talent these days. What’s a few mil here or there, right?
Aside from Marleau (who’s making a mint), I’d take Plekanec over any of those guys for Pleks’s $5M. His production and tendency to stay healthy make him a really valuable commodity, and I find we tend to undervalue our own players while overvaluing guys on other teams — sort of a “grass is always greener” complex. Pleks is worth every penny, and I’m thrilled to have him at that price.
Just an observation:
I’m at Dorval Airport yesterday (yup, I still call it that), going back to Vancouver and I wanted to pick up a Gio T-Shirt at that Habs store. Well, they didn’t have any. What they did have was three racks of Pouliot shirts. Wow.
I saw that as well – chilling stuff.
hmm AK or Zherdev… Zherdev! Equally young and enigmatic, but more speed and consistency (not by much)
OK, OK, OK….
Enough talk about the greater Kovy, how we can trade Hamrlik even though nobody wants him, how we can trade for Gagne (who’s made of glass), blah blah blah…..
I’m here to tell you guys how to spend about 2 hours of your life watching one of the best sport/political films I have ever seen. Friday night I was buzzing on half a bottle of Gentlemen’s Jack, when I tuned in to TSN at midnight. What I found was another one of the usually great “ESPN Films”, this one however about Pablo Escobar and his influence on Columbian soccer. Now just to let you all know, soccer doesn’t really fizz me. I prefer many sports over it, and I’ll only watch the World Cup because I feel it is somewhat of a human obligation; the same way we find ourselves sometimes watching water-polo or cross-country skiing in the Olympics.
But for those 2 hours on Friday night/Saturday morning, I found myself litterally glued to the flat-screen. First of all, ESPN is the mecca of television sports coverage. They find the best and most entertaining ways to make every story a great story. And trust me when I say this, they nailed this one. Escobar is known for his involvement in the drug trade, but his passion for the sport of soccer was insane.
I don’t know how else to explain it, but trust me when I say you have to watch this film. I’m sure you can find it on Youtube. Just find it and watch it, lol…
ps- I saw the Reggie Miller “ESPN Films” documentary a few months ago and it was also good.
OK, performance bonus: Score 50 and get free pickles!
Speaking as a student of history, an advocate of liberty and democracy, and a supporter of Israel, I am deeply offended by your original comment. Your follow-ups were offensive on a personal level. Your insincere, backhanded apology is contemptible – you can keep it.
Scotty Bowman said it best: “Don’t trade Carey Price.”
i want only 1 enigma, so if we sign him, Kosty has to go…
We may have overpaid for him but we needed to. He has great chemistry with cammy and ak46 and he is a tremendous 2 way forward. plus a fan favorite, it was something that PG needed to do. he is also much, much, better than any of those players except marleau. people love olli jokinen for some reason, fact of the matter is that he sucks and has only succeeded when he was the top dog in the dressing room on the ice (florida). everywhere else, phoenix (doan). calgary (iggy), and NYR (lundy/gaborik) he has been awful.
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i rather nikita filatov…zherdev’s an enigma much like andrei kostitsyn…i would even take maxim afinogenov ahead of zherdev.
C- Scott GOMEZ = 7.357143C- Mike CAMMALLERI = 6.0C- Tomas PLEKANEC = 5.0C- Lars ELLER = 1.270833C- Ben MAXWELL = 0.850C- Dustin BOYD = 0.650C- Tom PYATT = 0.500RW- Brian GIONTA = 5.0RW- Ryan WHITE = 0.850LW- Andrei KOSTITSYN = 3.250LW- Travis MOEN = 1.500LW- Benoit POULIOT = 1.375LW- Max PACIORETTY = 0.875D- Andrei MARKOV = 5.750D- Roman HAMRLIK = 5.500D- Jaroslav SPACEK = 3.833D- Hal GILL = 2.250D- Josh GORGES = 1.100D- Ryan O’BYRNE = 0.942D- P.K. SUBBAN = 0.875D- Yannick WEBER = 0.875G- Alex AULD = 1.0
BUYOUT: Georges LARAQUE = 0.500
TOTAL = 57.102976
CAMMALLERI – PLEKANEC – KOSTITSYNPOULIOT – GOMEZ – GIONTAPACIORETTY – ELLER – PYATTMOEN – BOYD – WHITE
MARKOV – O’BYRNEHAMRLIK – SUBBANSPACEK – GORGES
GILL – WEBER
By Jamie Fitzpatrick
Summer of the Pay Cut
Zherdev is looking to come back to the NHL. Should we go after him? He was the #4 pick in 2004, scored 20+ goals in his last season in the NHL.
just noticed this..Arron Asham is a UFA! Sign him Gauthier, this is the type of player we need!
1.5 over 2 years….750k cap hit….
so with some UFA signings already done…how is plekanec’s 5million/yr contract looking?
matt lombardi: 3.5/yrjokinen: 3/yrmatt cullen: 3.5/yrmarleau: 6.9/yrKoivu: 2.5/yrwhitney: 3/yrarmstrong 3/yrprospal: 2.1/yr
would plekanec really have commanded 5/yr in the market or did we over pay before we saw what people were paying?
i think plekanec has a bit more to offer than the players listed above so his contract seems alright since most of the players who signed are old.
i’m still waiting for the satori…I’ll let you know when it hits.
“Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot
ya.. that too… who’d take him? Philly’s jaked on D now..
I wouldn’t keep Hammer either but Souray is done… great guy but the injuries kill chemistry… go with O’byrne no?
Yo, Calgary Flames, everything comes in threes….do you want Hamrlik back?
Agree and I think that trading Hammer will be next to impossible at his rate. Maybe at the deadline but not now.
great article about Burke…
Souray is but a shadow of his former self. Too many injuries. He was a favourite of mine, but I wouldn’d take him back now.
The possibilities endless yet realistic (tell me that does not look sexy!)
I agree, Hammer should be moved. He’s getting a salary that reflects an offensive ability that we haven’t seen from him in years. Like Gomer his salary is grossly inflated from his point production, and you can’t afford to be sentimental when running a team in a salary cap reality.
If I were habs GM…
Trade Harmlik for anything at this point (a 4th rounder would do) *- 5.5mil
Trade A. Tits to Philly with a 2nd round for Asham and Gagne +4mil
Pick up Souray on reentry waivers +2.5mil (our power play would be deadly…)
Line 1) Gagne – Gomez – Gionta
Line 2) Pouliot – Pleks – Cammy
Line 3) Asham – Eller – Lapierre
Line 4) Moen – Boyd – Pyatt
Line 1 D) Markov – Subban
Line 2 D) Spakec – Souray
Line 3 D) Gill – Georges
If you are truly offended, than my apologies, and I retract my tongue-in-cheek statement. If – as I believe – you are just being a d**k, then I retract my apology.
Apologies, mate..had a rough day, and it went over my head.
Trade Hamrlik and A. Kostitsyn then we can sign Kovalchuk to a 8 years 8
mil per contract 🙂
Sorry, in #2, by bigger deal I meant maybe he could actually get his $10 million with a lights-out performance on a one-year deal. Outside of desperate teams, no one is ponying up $10million/season for him.
Sorry, I have been under the assumption since last season that Hammer would not be with us at the beginning of this season if at all possible……I would be moving him for the sake of moving him. I like Hammer but at 5.25 million bucks I like Simon Gagne far more than I like Hammer at 5.5. I think Subban is going to be a big boost to our D, Spacek is the same player as Hammer, Markov will be back, Gorges and OB an extra year, we already have another dinosaur in Hal Gill whose leadership is obviously overiding his dkills as he wears a letter so I see Hammer as the odd man out…..with that space I would target a sure fire 20 goal guy with potential for more for our top six. Gagne is just too versatile and responsible to not consider IMO. Fragility aside he is the ultimate fit IMO for a third part to the Gomez line…that is a tough line to play on and it seems like a very difficult chore to find someone who will fit there…I think Gagne would…perfectly.
(pickles cost extra)
Not according to post’s below: apparently we can double the price and nab Kovalchuk! Lol.
We don’t have the cap space to take him on.
Yeah, but 4.5 mil after Quebec tax works out to what – lunch at Schwartz’s?
Calm down, Clay.
Like you, I was kidding around. I guess ONLY you are allowed that privilege, eh.
You REALLY need to lighten up. That, or get laid!
This has nothing to do with Carey Price. It has to do with you making a very offensive post that tried to make a linkage between the moderators of this forum and Nazis.
I know you think you’re being clever and all of that by trying to say this has something to do with Carey Price because I am a Carey Price fan. However, you’re not.
On Simon Gagne…..I know of his injury history…but history is just that….look how many games Gaborik played, HAvalt,etc. All of the guys we traded for were supposed to be durable based on their history yet they all missed significant time,etc. Gagne’s cap hit is 5.25…..heavy but for one season….cold we keep him after that? who knows but would I love to have him this season? Absolutely I would. Gagne would be the perfect fit for our top six….he would be fast enough and smart enough to play with Gio and Gomez and/or could play with Pleks and Cammi. I can’t really think of too many guys who are smart enough, skilled enough, can play PK and be a threat, defensive enough, has the heart and will to go to dirty areas, etc who would have the versatility Gagne would and would fit our system. Hossa would work, Gagne would work…as wingers and with our system and personnel…he is the perfect fit. There is a big rik with injury but that is always the case ….. if we could move Hammer and take on Gagne I would instantly consider us complete enough to begin the season and elevate expectations….that would be one tough team to play against.
The Price is always the issue and I wouldn’t pay much at all for Gagne given there is only one year on his deal and the likelihood of him bolting after is pretty high ….but I would love to take a chance on him for this season. After all it is essentially a salary dump for Philly and they likely can;t take any real salary on. That would make us three lines deep with a fourth that could be scarfy too. If one of the wildcards at camp this year (AVTSIN, ENQVIST,etc) were to make the team, one of AK or POuliot has a decent season, one of PAcioretty or Eller has a 15 goal season…..yikes…..we are all of the sudden deep, fast, skilled, and I would argue in pretty good shape. We would still need to likely shore up the d at he dealine with a veteran for the playoffs but…I would be pretty confident heading into the playoffs with a lineup of : GIO_GOMEZ-GAGNE, PLEKS-CAMMI-AK, LAps-Moen-BOYD, Eller-Pouliot-Pyatt……and two of Darche, White, Enqvist, Avtstin to fill out the forwards.
He can’t get a bigger contract than $10M/yr.
My ancestors came to Quebec City in 1671. Habs was French, Maroons were the English team. But when Quebec City got its franchise in 1972 it coincided nicely with the political transformation of the province; many Quebecois switched allegiance to the Nordiques (especially young French rebelling versus family / tradition).
There has been a long blackout for Quebecois and hockey in the last 20 years. You talk to a lot of the young French and they really don’t give a crap about Habs or hockey (they prefer skiing and Formula 1).
I agree that a second franchise would indirectly give the Habs a great shot-in-the-arm.
They’ll never come for you, Bugs – you’re a special case.
Maybe, just maybe, this guy Ilya is waitin for the Habs to call’m? Ever thought about that?
Maybe these crazy monetary demands are a FOIL to turn other teams off until he gets an offer from the Habs.
4.5 mil a year for 5 years is all he wants but he wants it in Bleu-Blanc-Rouge money. Easy.
Give his agent a call, ferpetessakes!
Keepin it real, I be chillin as
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Hey, I resent that. I’m still here!
You forgot 4) Or go back to Russia.
As long as they don’t come for me, everything’ll be juuuust fine.
We’ll carry on and be the better for it.
There is no player not named Crosby who could help the Habs more than Quebec getting a hockey team. When the Nordiques left….the spotlight was thrust entirely on the Habs and it has been brutal since …to make it that much worse the Habs traded Roy to the old Nrodiques franchise and he won a cup….yikes. I am not a francophone and do not fully understand the finer details of the the language issues,etc…but from what I have gathered from the froncophones that I know,etc….. Montreal was always considered a bilingual town much like Ottawa but heavier on the French as Ottawa is heavier on the English..Quebec City was French like a town like Hamilton is English. I think that the Nordiques were the team that represented the predominantly French fan base….I think the Habs while still holding onto the fans that they had won over time were a team that the bulk of English Quebecers rooted for as they were more likely to live in Montreal and Montreal had a strong fan base outside of Quebec.
I am not stating this as fact as folks on here will know better than I but this is how it has been explained to me by those I have known who have lived in both Quebec and Montreal and other areas in La Belle Province. Then when the Expos left the Habs became the only show in the province and that intensified things even more ….then just to add insult to injury along came the communications age and the expedited delivery of all news via internet,etc…..essentially the perfect storm to make it all but impossible for a Montreal Canadien to take a dump without everyone knowing it.
I would sign Kovalchuk simply to trade him to a new franchise in Quebec for the pressure relief..screw the cap in that case…I would pay a sixth of the cap just to move us from the microscpe ( HIO excluded of course)
I just read where Kovy is seeking $10M a year for 10 years. That’s why the Kings are giving up on signing him.
Kovalchuk basically has 3 options:
1- Take his $100 Million dollar long-term contract with a bottom-dweller.
2-Take a one year deal with a contender like Marian Hossa did to prove his worth in hopes of getting a bigger deal
3- Taking a long-term front loaded deal with a lower cap with a contender like Marian Hossa did.
I am fairly positive that by the time kovalchuk signs, his deal isnt going to be for $100million or more (unless its a 15 year deal).
haven’t you noticed the relative lack of extreme idiocy the past day or 2?
Go Habs Go!
was just visiting your web site; is the business active?
I’m thinking of writing a screenplay in your honour called “When Pricebots Attack”, or some such thing. Can I count on you to play a supporting role (the lead belong elsewhere)?
I’m curious – what did Scotty say about Halak?
Illiteracy is a tragedy…did you miss the bottom line, or were you just unable to read it??
A rumor is going around that Peladeau’s group has made a bid for the Atlanta Thrashers for a Quebec City transfer.
Tony242 is deep sixed now too?
You do realize that paraphrasing Martin Niemoller’s poem about the Nazis’ systematic stripping of human rights group-by-group in Germany is a pretty good way to draw comparisons, do you not?
Crying over Tony, are we.
Jesus man – lighten up. What’s your problem? You have truly turned over to the dark side. Who is comparing anyone to Nazi’s? Well, I guess Boone compared Philly to them a while back.
thanks Natrous – appreciate your explanation – I know the ship has sailed.
should be interesting to see what Price and Halak actually end up signing for.
I’ve read 1.5 million for Price and 4 million for Halak on this site a few times.
I’ve also read 3 million for Price and 5 million for Halak.
PK is listed as my favorite current Hab as well – very excited to see what he can do next year.
I won’t miss a shift!!
It’s not easy to talk contract with a young, defensive-first dman like Stall (despite the fact that he put up more than a handful of goals last year), but that’s probably what’s going on there.
You don’t want to over-pay for a guy who’s more of a shut-down than a puck mover, but it seems that with Volchenkov and Komisarek, that’s the way things are going for one dimentional D.
While it was possible at one time to keep both goalies (and thus being forced to let Pleks go), that ship has clearly sailed after signing #14 long-term and dealing our more expensive goaltending option to St. Louis.
As for KovyII coming to Montreal, we can all dream – but it doesn’t make it any more realistic. There are only a few teams in the league that have the cap space and payroll to pull off a signing that big, and the Habs are clearly the cap space half of that equation.
Comparing the HIO mods to the Nazis is a bit of a stretch, maybe, no?
Repost for HH…
“THEY CAME FIRST for the Leaf’s fans,
and I didn’t speak up because, well, we all hate the leafs..
THEN THEY CAME for the Trolls,
and I didn’t speak up because trolls piss me off.
THEN THEY CAME for the Timo and Tony,
and I didn’t speak up because I didn’t share their opinions.
THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.”
Not woried about getting banned, HH, just my idea of a joke (kind of like Price as the number one goalie).
Marc Staal is an excellent defenceman – I would take him in a freakin second – actually I like all the Staals, can’t go wrong when you have a Staal on your side. !
you’re right. 🙂
fine. I accept the fantasy excuse.
It’s a 5th of July dream. Lighten up, the puck doesn’t drop until October.
Sather is screwing Marc Staal around the way he screwed Brandon Dubinsky last year:
it doesn’t seem like a good long-term strategy.
Common Ed, it’s fantasy that we could move Hamr, Spacak and AK, just like Habs acquiring Kova is a joke.
I agree. Staal is so much more a player than Kovalchuk. Leader, teamplayer… a franchise at $8 million a year. And a cup winner!
when some us were claiming that the Habs should be keeping both goalies, we were ridiculed here day after day.
“there’s no room – haven’t you ever heard of the Cap – that’s why we have to let go one of our goalies – its
all about the cap…….”
now, there’s a rumour out that Kovalchuk is available, and BOOM!
we can move mountains in a minute and bring on 10 million in salary.
I say no GM should sign this guy. Does he really think he’s worth more than Crosby or Ovechkin? Or even Eric Staal? I say we never see this clown in the NHL again. Go make your big bucks in the K where you have to deal with the mafia breathing down your neck.
See ya Kovalchuk, your selfish play won’t be missed by me.
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