Oh, what a Knight: Cataractes win Memorial Cup

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The Memorial Cup is hoisted by the triumphant Shawinigan Cataractes.
Mathieu Bélanger, Reuters

The long wait is over for the Shawinigan Cataractes. Anton Zlobin scored 17:51 into overtime Sunday, and the Cataractes were crowned MasterCard Memorial Cup champion for the first time in franchise history after a 2-1 victory over the London Knights.

(Scroll down for a nice image of very happy Canadiens prospect Michael Bournival.)

The Cataractes are the only founding franchise still intact from when the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League was formed in 1969, but had never claimed the nation’s top junior hockey prize.

Tinordi, Beaulieu will make sizeable addition to Habs’ blue line: Hickey
Tampa assistants likely candidates in coaching search: Fisher
Habs Hall of Fame new museum on the block: Boone

• STANLEY CUP FINAL:
Devils’ Marty Brodeur crosses paths again with legendary Terry Sawchuk, Kings’ first-ever player: Stubbs

Below: Terry Sawchuk, the first-ever Los Angeles King, in his 1968-69 hockey card. Sawchuk had been traded to Detroit just before this season began.
Courtesy Gerry Chartrand, gerryssportscards.com

Marcel Dionne ready for Kings to be crowned: Johnson, Calgary Herald
DeBoer made believes out of Devils: Arthur, National Post
One man’s view: New Jersey in six: Campbell, The Hockey News

Below: Canadiens prospect Michael Bournival with the Memorial Cup Sunday night.
Mathieu Bélanger, Reuters

157 Comments

  1. commandant says:

    To Sampson12

    If you click on Gally’s name you’ll read the full report, some 400-800 words per player, and yes we love his hands. Some of the best ever seen in a 16/17 year old, we rave about them.

    To Phil

    5 of the first 10 picks are D because I only rate 4 forwards as elite potential guys. But you’ll notice all 4 are gone by pick 6.

  2. ed lopaz says:

    ok here’s my Quebec pick that the Habs can grab in the 4th round.

    Charles Hudon

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=129714

    a very gifted offensive player, I think he would be an excellent pick for the Habs.

    write it down!!

    .

  3. PeterD says:

    Loved the Memorial Cup Tournament…more thilling than the NHL Play-offs for me…must be the Habs prospects involved.

    Couple of thoughts on these prospects…

    Jarod Tinordi could be with the Habs out of camp this year…he is huge, moves well, controls the defensive side in his end and is very responsible defensively…and I think he has some upside to his offense…but the huge piece is his +/- stats.

    Morgan Ellis is or has been the most underrated of the Habs prospects and I just don’t get that. He is a mature, big, tough, smooth skating defenceman with great offensive side to his game…makes a good, accurate first outlet pass from his end, plays top minutes on PK and PP…he may be in Hamilton next season but I think he may get an early call up for injury replacement.

    Nathan Beaulieu skates efortlessy and smoothly which is his best asset…but his defensive aspect of his game leaves a bit to be desired when compared to Tinordi and Ellis…with Beaulieu’s size, skating and offensive flare, I think he should be tryed on the wing as a forward. He could very easily be converted to a power forward which would be a great move at his young age and most helpful to the Habs going forward, especially with the up and coming Defense prospects in the system right now.Either way for Nathan, as a defenseman or as a converted forward, he should be seen as a high end talented player that is still a work in progress and will be a project to get him to the NHL level…may even take two more years in Hamilton to get there unless he makes a huge new commitment to his defensive responsibilities.

    Michael Bournival is a good asset…is doesn’t have huge physical size, but he plays with a big heart and with speed and some ofensive skills…he is responsible at both ends of the rink and will become a good two way player for our 3rd line in a year or two.

  4. ont fan says:

    With all these new guys in management it will be so interesting who they come up with to coach.

  5. EasternOntarioHabsFan says:

    My view on Bournival has completely changed after watching this memorial cup.

    Ellis is a real gem, thumbs up to Timmons for getting him in the fourth round

    Tinordi is a monster, at 20 years old he is bigger and stronger then most NHL players are in their prime, he might see a little bit of the show next season, I can totally picture him rag-dolling Marchand while Jack Edwards is shocked into silence.

  6. Un Canadien errant says:

    On the gym rat discussion at the start of the thread, Ed Lopaz makes the very good point that anyone drafted in the first round is either one or becomes one very quickly by dint of their chosen profession. Yet I agree with commandant that it is an important distinction, a tag which when affixed properly helps to evaluate players.

    A gym rat is someone who you can’t get rid of at the gym, he’s there everyday, sometimes twice a day, and unfailingly is there because he loves the gym. Other players who go because it’s part of their program, or because their coaches tell them to, usually don’t work out with the same dedication and intensity, take days off, etc.

    Same goes for a rink rat. Some guys love hockey and everything about it. They’ll be at every practice, won’t ever miss a game, will join a couple of pickup teams or play drop-in when they can, as opposed to the guys who like hockey but take every day off that they’re entitled to, and sometimes miss a game or practice because they ‘need to study’ or ‘couldn’t get a sitter’.

    Going back to the gym rat moniker, we can apply it to P.K. Subban and Mike Cammalleri, but not to guys like Ian Schultz and Ryan White and Guillaume Latendresse and Olivier Archambault. The two former players have their quirks and flaws, but have never been accused of not showing up to camp in shape or sucking wind in the third period.

    Guillaume Latendresse was heavily scouted and was promised to a bright future, but physical conditioning was always a problem for him. It’s something that can easily be addressed, yet he chose to ignore this until possibly last summer. There’s no telling how much his career has been set back due to poor physical fitness.

    Ryan White and Ian Schultz were both guys who had good junior careers, both with the Calgary Hitmen incidentally, but who both carried too much weight and would need to shed that to make an impression in the pro game. Ryan White was described as having a ‘bad body’ but playing well despite it, with good hockey sense. He fell to the third round in the draft, past guys who were ranked lower than him by Central Scouting like Ben Maxwell and Milan Lucic. I still wonder if his unimpressive physique, on full display at the draft Combine, made him fall a round or so. Once he had to make the jump to the AHL he understood what he needed to do and was a pleasant surprise two seasons ago with his energy and reckless style.

    Ian Schultz is the guy who was destined to be known as the ‘throw-in’ in the Jaro Halak-Lars Eller trade, a guy who was out of his league in the AHL. Conditioning was the main issue with him, as SeriousFan used to note. Last summer however, he showed up to camp in decent shape, having shed a few pounds and being a little bit stronger, and had a good season. He was singled out by Clément Jodoin, the Bulldogs head coach, as being the most improved player along with Joonas Nattinen.

    Olivier Archambault is one of those high-risk, high-reward draft picks, although spending a fourth rounder on him was not a steep cost. He has great skill and scoring talent, but worth ethic and fitness are two question marks among many. Apparently he did nothing to address these issues this season and he again underwhelmed. He needs to wake up and pattern his habits after players like David Desharnais and Martin St. Louis, guys who look like middleweight wrestlers.

    So when I read that a player like Alex Galchenyuk is a gym rat, that’s a checkmark in the plus column for me. This is not to say that other players who currently don’t spend the same amount of time in the gym will not ever do so, but since past behaviour is the best indicator of future behaviour, I say Mr. Galchenyuk is a step or two ahead of others in this department. A hockey player who is a gym rat/rink rat is definitely a good thing.

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    In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • commandant says:

      The two guys who are always the first on the ice at practice and the last off it are PK Subban and Tomas Plekanec.

      PK’s improvement from when he was drafted to where he is today, is near unprecedented. His growth as a player from a defesnive liability to the guy who plays 25+ minutes a night against the other team’s best line and was +9 while doing so on a 28th place club is astounding.

      Plekanec was touted in the AHL as a future 3rd liner for the Habs. A good defensive player whose offence was questionned. In fact at the start of the 07-08 season Pleks was on the third line and Grabovski was on the 2nd. Pleks would evolve to the point where he now has a 69 and 70 pt season under his belt. And has led the team in scoring 2 of the last 3 years. Yes, he’s not the elite 1st liner some wish he was, but I think all Habs fans can agree he has exceeded expectations.

      For that reason, if I hear of a kid like them, who you can’t keep off the ice, and you can’t keep out of the gym. A kid with the dedication of Galchenyuk, to go along with the obvious skill he possesses today. That kid is my pick. That dedication can only help his game.

      Go Habs Go!
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      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I was reading scouting reports on Tomas Plekanec on Hockey’s Future the other day. With their new look, there’s a glitch that posts articles from 1999 on the front of the Canadiens page. It did show that he was a hard-working two-way player, but his size would probably limit him in the NHL, and they did give him a third-line ceiling. Great when a prospect overachieves. And I do like the fact that Mr. Galchenyuk is a gym rat.

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        In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  7. Ali says:

    Guess which head coach had Scott Mellanby as his captain in Atlanta?

  8. Timo says:

    Some one enlighten me please – what does a director of player personnel do?

    • mdp2011 says:

      What I said below.

      He will be in charge of player development. Trevor Timmons had dual role, head of Amateur scouting and player delovepment.

    • ZepFan2 says:

      “The Director of Player Personnel is a management position within a sports organization whose main job is to support the athletes on the team. Depending on the level of team–amateur, college or professional–the director’s job may be to help teach, train and care for the players. This may also involve negotiating contracts, or in the case of college athletics, school commitment agreements. He also helps in player trades and acquisitions, including being directly involved in recruiting or scouting new players for a team.”

      Director of player development:

      “Youth, minor league and professional sports teams have become increasingly concerned with the personal well being of their players since the 1980s. Increased competition in youth leagues, the financial struggles of minor league players and the media scrutiny on pro players has led to the creation of player development departments. The director of player development is tasked with helping athletes handle their finances, develop careers after sports and deal with the media. Your career in player development can flourish when you become immersed in the nuances of your particular sport.”

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      “Bring it on home, Bring it on home to you…” – Plant/Page

      Bring it on Home

      • PeterD says:

        Thanks for this Zep…sounds like we could have used this type of guy/influence over the past few years to help our new prospects get integrated into the Montreal life style…I’m thinking of the Kostisyns, early Price, Higgins…and a few others that seemed to get lost in their immaturity and the instant celebrity of being a Hab in the big city…
        Hope Scott M. has a positive influence with our large influx of youth coming to Hamiltion or Montreal next season.

  9. NightRyder says:

    When will Hartley be named as HC?

    If Mellanby is in, what happens to Timmins?

  10. naweed235 says:

    Scott Melonby as the Director of player personnel…. Confirmed

  11. Kimberly2u says:

    They just appointed Scott Mellanby direcotor of player personnel

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      What does a director of player personnel do and who was ours before?


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • Ali says:

        sounds better than assistant to the assistant gm?

      • mdp2011 says:

        He will be in charge of player development. Trevor Timmons had dual role, head of Amateur scouting and player delovepment.

      • shiram says:

        I think it was one of Timmins many hats.

        Need a new Head Coach? Why not Bykov?

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        My take is that the director of player personnel is in charge of all the players in the Canadiens’ system. Junior, NCAA, Europe, and the AHL players. This is a hockey/human resources position.

        I think this is a vital link in player development. Some guys will just naturally end up in the NHL, but some will need to be pointed in the right direction and be offered all kinds of support. I think of two guys who I’ve touched on today, Olivier Archambault and Ian Schultz. These guys need to be coached up and put on programs and have constant encouragement and coaching.

        Another guy who I think needs this support is Alex Avtsin, who seems like a kid who came over to North America and put in a pro league too soon. He should probably have spent a year in junior. Anyway, after two disappointing seasons, there needs to be some focus on him and an attempt to harness all that raw talent and get it going in the right direction.

        A story that staggered me, having a bit of a HR background, was one told by Ryan McDonagh, who when he was asked if he saw the trade to the Rangers coming, answered that he didn’t expect it at all. In fact, he continued, he was a couple days away from attending the Canadiens’ development camp, and was looking forward to it to find out what the team had in mind for him, since, in his words, “I hadn’t heard anything from them in a long while.” This story boggled my mind, and is why I’ve been very receptive to the idea of a bigger front office with lots of talented staff and defined priorities for each. If we had that kind of front office instead of a very small centralized hierarchy with tight control on all aspects of hockey operations, like Bob Gainey and Pierre Gauthier ran, the Ryan McDonagh story would never have happened as such. Heck, maybe there would have been a strong voice in place that would have advocated against trading away the kid, would have seen him as much more than just disposable trade bait.

        So Scott Mellanby joins the team as Director of Player Personnel, great.

        Now, let’s get some former Habs in the front office in junior roles to learn the ropes and prepare a succession plan.

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        In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • ZepFan2 says:

      Yup, they sure did.

      Mellanby hired by Habs

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      “Bring it on home, Bring it on home to you…” – Plant/Page

      Bring it on Home

  12. punkster says:

    Just tossin’ this out there. Nice to see Robert L. posts today. One of the most knowledgeable and informed individuals on this site. Reminds me of Joe Friday. “Just the facts, ma’am”.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  13. HabFanSince72 says:

    Larry Brooks vying to remain Tortorella’s least favourite journalist:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/stumbling_block_ghJCH3yDtzy5VdDh374qbO

    Can’t say he’s wrong. The Rangers were the dullest team in the playoffs. They needed 7 games each time to defeat two fairly poor teams.


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  14. Mattyleg says:

    Who would name their team after an eye condition?

    Very strange…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      The Saskatoon Styes.

      The Moose Jaw Myopes.

      Not quite an eye condition but related:

      The Sault Sainte Marie Cyclops.


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • JohnBellyful says:

      The Peoria Pinkeye (1956 – 1973) in the International Hockey League.

    • Cal says:

      Edgar Allen Poe. He would have. I have it on good authority.

    • 24moreCups says:

      “The name “Cataractes” often confuses English-speaking hockey fans. The name literally translates as “Cataracts” meaning “Waterfalls”; the team is named for Shawinigan Falls, a prominent waterfall in the city, even though they do not have a waterfall on their uniform. A Quebec Senior Hockey League team operated in the city as the Shawinigan Falls Cataracts (1945–53) and the Shawinigan Cataracts (1954–58). It won the playoffs in the 1954–55 season.”

  15. jedimyrmidon says:

    So the Toronto Marlies are in the Calder Cup finals, I believe. Does this mean the Leafs will have an influx of good prospects over the next few years? Or is it all pretty meaningless?

    Looking at the 2007 Bulldogs roster, I see AK, SK, Price and Grabovski on there along with a number of other NHLers though none who have had an impact at the NHL level as much as Price and AK (to a lesser extent).

    • naweed235 says:

      Even though they remain rumours, at this point you have no choice but believe there is some credibility to it with all these different sources confirming it…
      So how do people feel about Hartley as our next coach?
      I for for one am quiete indifferent to it… He never impressed me but then again, I don’t think there was a better candidate out there right now with all the circumstances surrounding a MTL coaching job…
      I think it’s a case of this is as good as it gets for now…. deal with it

      • Actually, no one has confirmed anything at all. Blogs writing about it (Hockey Buzz, the Hockey Writers,etc) have no credibility whatsoever, they are just repeating what has been insinuated by the press. No sources have been named in any reports and all that has been noted is that three coaches are believed to have interviewed for the job. The Crawford item I mentioned below is the same. I has little credibility behind it. I heard it last week, and apparently now it has been noted in a Steve Simmons column. Rumours are just that, and don’t amount tomuch.

    • Habilis says:

      Hockeybuzz also has Hartley being named as coach. They put it at E4 which is one step below being confirmed… http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Rumor-Bob-Hartley-Looks-Like-the-New-Canadiens-Head-Coache4/1/44637

  16. From Boone’s article on the Habs’ Hall of Fame, the player erroneously placed on Mario Tremblay’s rookie card was Gord McTavish. He played 4 seasons with Nova Scotia Voyageurs. Here’s a different shot of him from a photo session a year or two later.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Canadiens-Gord-Mctavish-1970s-Photo-/260701715710

  17. Take this with a grain of salt perhaps. Marc Crawford is married to a Sauve girl from Cornwall. Her sister is the wife of an old friend of mine. I haven’t spoken to either, but the family visits here every summer. There’s a story making the rounds at the moment that Marc is taking a French course, intensely brushing up on his use of the language. He’s likely doing that JUST IN CASE he gets the job.

  18. BJ says:

    Somebody asked below what “Cataractes” means. It means “Waterfalls”. If my memory serves me correctly back in the 50’s in the Quebec Hockey League the team was called Shawinigan-Falls Cataracts. They were a Montreal Canadiens farm team. I remember cuttings from a french weekend supplement called La Patrie that had various Quebec teams as well as Habs players on a full page and on a weekly basis.

  19. HabinBurlington says:

    I think the success of Peter DeBoer shows that todays NHL doesn’t require the head coach to have 10 or 15 years of NHL experience or that he has to have coached a Stanley Cup Winning team.

    Instead it shows that a good young coach who knows the game well and knows how to communicate with his team can be very succesful. I realize Gerrard Gallant didn’t have success at the Memorical Cup this year, but he has been a very successful coach in the CHL for a number of years now. He also NHL experience as Head and Asst. Coach, granted they were poor teams (Islanders and Columbus) but surely he would have learned great lessons from that.

    I would be happy to see someone like Gerrard given the opportunity.
    Seeing a retread like Carbo, Therrien, Hartley or Crawford does not interest me.

    Gallant since retiring as a player has done nothing but work hard at becoming the best coach he can be. When one door closed he moved and found something else and continued to ply his trade. He has not sat on a TSN panel waiting for someone to call him. Given his track record as a player and now his record as a Coach he would make a strong coach I believe.

    • shiram says:

      Yeah put me on the no retreads bandwagon too.

      To Pleks or not to Pleks, that is the question.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      DeBoer might be the exception and not the rule. It seems that many successful coaches have more success the second time around. I am terrified of a rookie hire. Its just such ab important hire I can’t see MB hiring someone with no experience. Hartley seems to be the best of the bunch imho.

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    • Gerry H says:

      DeBoer isn’t a rookie, though. He coached Florida for two seasons, hired by none other than Jacques Martin.

      I’m happy to see his success. Talon gave him nothing to work with in the 2010/11 season and, after the job he did in 09/10, he should have had a shot with the dramatically revamped team Florida iced this past season. Looks good on Talon, if you ask me.

      • Habsolutely says:

        LOL!!!! What looks good on Talon? the amazing success of Kevin Dineen??? New GM’s like to make their own mark by choosing their own coaches. It’s a pretty common thing in the NHL. Saying it “looks good on Talon” is patently absurd considering he is widely considered as one of the best minds in the game at the moment.

  20. blu_blanc_rouge says:

    Anyone know if Boulieou is eligable for junior next season?

  21. joeybarrie says:

    Only acceptable move from MB. Hire Clement Jodoin as head coach.
    MB can then hire the new coaching prospect for his first year in the AHL, new coach of the Hamilton Bulldogs, MR SCOTT GOMEZ.
    relegating him to the AHL takes away his cap hit. And a genius GM is born….

  22. FanCritic says:

    A good coach will be the success to the Habs future, we have lots of very good talent coming up it would be a shame to see them underachieve…

  23. shiram says:

    So what does HIO think of the 2 Tampa Bay assistant, any chance they get a sniff of the HC job in MTL?
    I’ve read the piece, and they certainly are no Bykov…

    To Pleks or not to Pleks, that is the question.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      It is interesting and it seems to fit the pattern of Bergevin’s thought process in that he is open minded to look anywhere to find the best person for the job.

      Despite me knowing little to nothing about these guys, I really like that he is looking virtually everywhere to find the best coach possible.

  24. bellcentre hotdog says:

    Love the fact that Terry Sawchuck is wearing a golf shirt under his uniform.

    One of the benefits of being a King back in the day: golf anytime.

  25. habsavvy says:

    so what’s the difference between Bob Hartley and Jacques Martin?
    aside from the fact that Hartley shows, don’t they both preach a defensive style?

    • Cal says:

      Have you watched the playoffs? The 2 best defensive teams are in the final. LA has allowed only 22 goals in 14 games for a 1.57 GAA while NJ has allowed 38 for a 2.00 GAA.
      We all want a better balance between D and scoring.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        They don’t play a passive defensive style, is his point.


        Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

        • Cal says:

          Passive, schmassive. It takes great D to create offense in transition. EVERY team plays within a defensive system. This rose coloured version of “firewagon” hockey that every wants won’t work for a winning team. The Oilers have been playing that “offense-first” style with their kids. They’ve sucked for 4 years.

      • The Dude says:

        All the approaching and into finals teams have MONSTER DEFENSE!

  26. habfan53 says:

    I asked on last nights thread If anyone can remember a team having both captains of the Memorial Cup Final on their prospect list?

    Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

  27. JohnBellyful says:

    MONTREAL – Bob Hartley, considered by many the leading candidate to become the next coach of the Montreal Canadiens, is no longer in the running.
    A disastrous third round interview has disqualified him from further consideration, say sources close to the selection process.
    “It was terrible,” said one insider who filmed the interview. “Hartley reacted badly to having his palm buzzed when he shook hands with (Canadiens general manager Marc) Bergevin, getting sprayed with water from a flower in the GM’s lapel, and being embarrassed when he sat on a whoopee cushion at the beginning of the interview.”
    He also failed to come up with the punch lines to several hoary jokes, including why did the chicken cross the road. Hartley’s response, “What the $%$#^$ has that got to do with anything?” failed to draw a smile from Bergevin, another source said.
    The former Colorado Avalanche coach, who led the team to a Stanley Cup victory in 2001, also appeared to be offended when Bergevin affected a Scottish accent for much of the 90-minute interview and kept calling him “Boob”.
    The session ended badly when Hartley failed to employ the classic Three Stooges defensive hand block when Bergevin playfully poked him in the eyes.
    Still, Hartley left on better terms than Patrick Roy, who pulled a knife when the GM attempted the same gambit to test the Hab legend’s humour quotient.
    “Some will say Bergevin’s interviewing style is a bizarre way to choose a coach but it makes perfect sense,” said a confidante of the novice general manager. “Marc is looking for a guy with elan, aplomb and bonhomie because he’ll need all three to handle the stress of leading the Canadiens back to respectability. Having a sense of humour is essential, otherwise he’ll go crazy.”
    Source number four said Bergevin, a well-known prankster, is counting on his choice of coach to disarm the team’s critics with wit, particularly during the often fractious conferences that follow a loss, when the team’s play comes under intense scrutiny – which it will happen often while the Canadiens rebuild.
    “Don’t be surprised to see the next coach spray the reporters with seltzer and honk a horn after every answer just to keep the mood light,” he said.
    More than one source said Marc Crawford greatly improved his chances of being hired by maintaining a calm composure and a high wattage smile throughout his third round interview, even when Steve Moore was invited in to ask a few questions about his coaching philosophy.
    But Crawford is by no means a cinch to replace Randy Cunneyworth as there are several other legitimate candidates still in the race: Bergevin’s junior hockey coach, high school gym teacher, fitness trainer, financial adviser, tailor and hair stylist.

    — “A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants.” –

    • HabinBurlington says:

      LOL, sounds about right, thanks for the update John.

    • habsfan0 says:

      Will the Habs’ new head coach need a sense of humour?

      Soitanly!

      NYUK! NYUK! NYUK!

    • wildwilly says:

      Ah… So it starts. Give the GM a 2-week honeymoon before turning him into a clown. It seems some Canadiens followers are bent on tearing down everything so quickly that nothing will ever grow again.

      You are not funny. Don’t quit your day job (if you have one).

      While I find the true writers of this blog (e.g. Mr. Boone and Mr. Hickey), there are too many people like you who waste space with nonsense.

      • Zorro1 says:

        William Connors…any relation to Chuck Connors..aka “The Rifleman”?

        Because you do shoot from the hip..

      • punkster says:

        Yes, I agree. It’s an absolute travesty that anyone with a sense of humour would post here. Blogs are not meant for humour, they’re meant for vitriolic, unfounded, scathing attacks on others from the safety of our basements.

        Rise up all ye subterranean keyboard smashers and screen spitters. Rise up, I say, and throw off the shackles of common decency, sensitivity and Pythonesque humour. Take to the streets, man the battlements, pass the ammunition and prepare for the struggle against humour!

        “A Joke is a very serious thing”
        – Winston Churchill

        ***Subbang Baby!!!***

      • JohnBellyful says:

        1. Bergevin has a reputation for being a prankster.
        2. Why would I be bent on tearing down a team I’ve followed faithfully for more than 40 years? Bearing witness to the Canadiens winning the Cup is so much more fun.
        3. Okay, I’m not funny. You can’t blame a guy for trying. Perhaps you will furnish samples of what you consider humourous (I assume they will not be hockey related because, God forbid, one should make fun of a sport you hold sacred (granted, that’s an assumption on my part, and I apologize; one should never do that about posters to this site)
        4. “Don’t quit your day job (if you have one).” Why wouldn’t I have a day job? Ohhh, I get it, you were trying — no, not trying — you were being funny. I am learning at the knee of the master. Highly original and to the point.
        5. “While I find the true writers of this blog (e.g. Mr. Boone and Mr. Hickey) …” I find them too. Which isn’t hard. Just go to http://www.hockeyinsideout.com.
        6. “… there are too many people like you who waste space with nonsense.”
        There’s something to be said for wasting space with nonsense, if only to provide variety in a forum dominated by well-reasoned arguments put forward by posters such as yourself. The drivel that I, and apparently many others, submit makes contributions from the vast majority appear that much more authoritative.
        It’s a service I’m willing to continue, and your post tells me it’s needed more than ever.
        EDIT: Geez, that sounded kinda stuffy. What I need is a little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down my pants.
        Ooooooh!

        • Habfan10912 says:

          For what its worth JB, I think you’re very funny. In addition, am quite fond of your post. Please keep them coming.

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          @Punkster. I think you’re funny too.

          • JohnBellyful says:

            Thanks, Habfan ‘Call Me Jim’ 10912. I appreciate your kind words. I write these posts because I enjoy a laugh — a form of self-gratification — and I hope others do, too. Enjoy a laugh (not the self-gratification; not that there’s anything wrong with that).
            Yeah, I’ll keep the posts coming, Jim. Cuz I don’t know any better.

          • DrunkenKeith says:

            I enjoyed your post, as well. Keep up the good work.

        • John Bellyful…Being a serious Habs fan for over 40 years I find it a breath of fresh air to read your comments..I find it harder each passing year without a true contender to read some of the garbage that is posted on here so i find no offense at all in your comments just lightning the load us true hab fans carry

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          John, you shouldn’t have dignified his reply with your own. Don’t worry, we got your back.

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          In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

          http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

          • JohnBellyful says:

            Thanks, UCE. Always welcome the support for what I try to do — bring a little merriment into the world of Hab fandom. I haven’t the breadth of knowledge to offer the same thoughtful pieces that you and others contribute to this space, which add so much to everyone’s understanding of the issues surrounding the team. They are much appreciated. I’m always amazed at the many insights to be found at HIO, which is why I visit the site on a regular basis. To become informed, but also to be entertained.

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            I think you got me confused with Chris or Tom Nickle. But thanks anyway.

            I love the humour too, one of the big reasons I come here, as well as for the learning. I’m much more informed as to how bad the Canadiens were last season.

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            In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

            http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

        • boing007 says:

          Keep up the good work, Bellyful.

          Richard R
          Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • HardHabits says:

        Hi PrimeTime.

      • ZepFan2 says:

        Your whole post was a waste of time. Maybe you should get a sense of humour.

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        Bring it on Home

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      A note for any Anglos planning to use Mr. Bergevin’s interview techniques: the Three Stooges’ eye-poke block technique is a very culturally-specific manoeuvre. While Americans and English Canadian kids were brought up on a steady diet of the Stooges, I to this day have never seen one of their films, cinephile that I am. I remember my friend at John at Concordia telling the story of how he tried the eye-poke move on his girlfriend, but her hands were so small she needed to put up both her hands to block his freakishly long fingers. He completely lost me with it, I didn’t understand why he’d want to poke her eyes, why she would block it that way instead of shielding her eyes or turning away or whatever, or who these Three Stooges were. Completely bewildered by the whole thing.

      So if you attempt this technique on an applicant from a culture which is not steeped in Three Stooges lore, don’t be surprised if you end up with medical bills and personal injury lawsuits.

      As far as the Canadiens head coach candidates and how they fare in this complicated interview process, I suggest the lucky lobster gambit, as demonstrated by the Kids in the Hall below.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_2_YqwcWAI

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      In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  28. petefleet says:

    Time to make room for some young talent with a fresh, new head coach behind the bench. Lots of youth in the pipeline for years to come. HC should be someone who can mold and shape good, young talent. I’d start the process with getting rid of the following:
    Scott Gomez
    Nokia
    Ryan White
    Campoli
    Kaberle
    Weber
    Budaj

    I know alot of you are going disagree with White being on the list, but I like Staubitz in that role better. I like his game a little better.

    Other youth in the mix who probably didn’t get a fair shake last year with JM and RC in terms of ice time and usage would include:
    LL
    Engqvist
    Palushaj
    Geoffrion
    Eller

    Blunden and and Darche will have their hands full at camp this year. Work ethic might not be enough under the new regime.

    Should be an exciting start to the new season.

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    “It just goes to show how difficult predictions are, especially ones made about the future.”

    RGM
    ***Habs Forever***

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I liked the way Staubitz showed he could actually play an energy role without having to scrap in the last few games. White on the other hand I think has better hockey sense.

      I don’ t think Geoffrion will ever be a real factor and I think LL should be a full season in the AHL to develop. LL could play in the NHL but I think could benefit more by building his confidence up by playing top minutes in the AHL. Blunden in my opinion should be gone if you keep Staubitz. Yes, he can skate fast and hit but has no hands around the net similar to staubitz but Staubitz can defend his teammates if needed. Enqvist I am not sure fits. he plays well in the NHL but in my opinion is not physical enough to play on the 4th line. It isn’t his skill set. With Eller, Pleks and DD there is no room for Enqvist. We need a strong face off guy. Paulishaj played better in the AHL this year than in the past but still doesn’t really do much with his albiet limited ice time in the big show. The time is running out for him as well

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      • petefleet says:

        I think all the guys mentioned could be left in the AHL for another year. It won’t hurt their development. I think back to Max and the way he was handled early on in his career. Left to JM, he would have ruined him on the 3rd or 4th line and he would not have developed into a 1st line power forward. I believe that may happen to Engqvist, who is not a 3rd liner but plays that role in MTL. Palushaj is pretty much the same story. Not everyone can be a Carboneau who scored in bunches at the jr level only to become a Selke trophy winner in the NHL.
        I like Blunden and Staubitz over White. White seems to always have something to prove when he;’s on the ice, maybe cause he’s only 5’11”.
        I like Geoffrion for his size and his pedigree. Another year in AHL might make a Max out of him, the scouts liked him in the past.

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        “It just goes to show how difficult predictions are, especially ones made about the future.”

        RGM
        ***Habs Forever***

      • The Dude says:

        The new Habs will need the best of the best ….losing is for losers. Big athlete’s who can score and play with an EDGE,JUST LIKE L.A.’S TEAM!

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Ryan White isn’t just a scrapper. He had a good career in junior as a two-way centre who could put up points, hit and fight. Two seasons ago he was a pleasant surprise in this role for the Canadiens. Last season was kind of by his injuries, and when he came back I feared that he was fighting too much, that he should concentrate more on hockey. With the proper coaching and direction, he can return to a role that is more productive and more suited for him than taking on Erik Gudbranson.

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      In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  29. HabinBurlington says:

    I was impressed with the steady play of Ellis and Bournival. I fear Bournival may not have that goal scoring nose for the net like Gallagher, but could become a quality two way player 3rd/4th line center for the team.

    As many have stated, with Ellis, Tinordi, Bealieu appearing ready to make jump to AHL, along with Pateryn, Dietz and couple others also on the way we will suddenly have a wealth of young players in Hamilton preparing for pro hockey.

  30. Thomas Le Fan says:

    I enjoyed watching our young prospects in the Memorial Cup series. Bournival, Ellis, Tinordi and Beaulieu all look pretty good and that bodes well for the future.
    Cataractes? What does their name have to do with their logo? I guess, like a hurricane, a waterfall doesn’t look like much on a jersey.

  31. jon514 says:

    Can’t wait to see Tinordi at 240 pounds (in a few years) toss Lucic around like his name was Komisarek.

  32. hoffska says:

    For what its worth Eklud is saying that Bob Hartley will be the next coach for the Habs. If thats true I for one think its a solid choice.

    • sampson12 says:

      LOL. Has he ever been right? Serious question though.

      But even if he has, anyone could get one right for every 1000 wrong.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Yes. When he reposts something he read on tsn.ca he’s usually right.


        Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • Scotty says:

      I guess he read the 24 Heures newspaper on the metro this morning

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I had been worried Hartley may be leading candidate for the job. THe good news with Eklund, once he prints his stupid rumours you immediately know that his prediction will not occur.

      Thanks EK, I didn’t want Hartley as our coach. ;-)

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Welcome back Gerald. Ive heard others report Hartley is the one. I am so sorry to do this but what is the issue with him? Would rank him above Crawfird, Roy, and Carbo although Carbo would be a close second.

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    • Newf_Habster says:

      Eklund is nothing but a fraudster. He is making you so gullible like dodo birds to fall into his craps. It is pissing me off more and more every time you mention his name.

  33. Lafleurguy says:

    Nice to see Bournival, and Tomas recently as well sport the “C.”

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  34. Cal says:

    The #9 ranked Devils go against the #13 ranked Kings for the Cup.
    It really must be the end of the world! ;)

    So much for a top 5 finish in the National Parity League giving the team a “better” shot at winning it all.

    • HardHabits says:

      If NJ wins (9th over-all) it will still be a top 10 team winning, which would place them in the exception to the top 5 rule category, along with the 1994 Devils, 2008 Penguins and 2011 Bruins. If LA wins it will be an anomaly.

      If in the next 5 years teams finishing 11th or worse win the Cup then a new rule will be written.

      But keep trying to suggest that one isolated incident is a trend.

  35. jon514 says:

    Really surprised Ellis was not mentioned here.

    Morgan Ellis, a 4th round pick, out-shone both Tinordi and Beaulieu in the Memorial cup with 1 goal, 4 assists and +3 in 6 games.

    • Strummer says:

      Not to mention that cross-check to the throat last week against the Saint John player.

      The guy plays with an edge- gottta love it.

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    • Mats Naslund says:

      He had a great tourney – no doubt.. but I don’t see how he out-shined Tinordi. Both were excellent. Tinordi is a beast. Maybe if you didn’t expect anything from Ellis then you would be surprised, but either way Montreal has 3 of the best defensive prospects in the tournament. Not a bad situation.

  36. commandant says:

    No Prospect profile today. Instead I bring you a mock draft.

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2012/05/28/the-last-word-nhl-mock-draft-1st-round/

    Go Habs Go!
    Visit Your NHL Draft Headquarters
    http://lastwordonsports.com/category/lastwordblog/nhldraft/

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Good morning. Thanks for sharing your post. Not a draftnik but id be happy with this. Was originally scared off about the knee but I’m even more positive about the description of him being a “gym rat”. Some say he may end up being the best player in the draft. Perhaps that’s why the Leafs like him as well. Thank again.

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    • ed lopaz says:

      I would bet everyone in the first 2 rounds could easily be described as a Gym Rat – and if there is any player in the 210 chosen who is not a Gym Rat at draft day, he becomes one very, very quickly.

      today’s hockey player works off ice training as hard or even harder than on ice training.

      finally, if I’m Columbus I take Galchenyuk and not Murray.

      if they don’t get more offence they will never win.

      Chaput will be an excellent 2nd line center, but its Galchenyuk who has that 80-90 point upside

    • sampson12 says:

      Maybe it has been mentioned too many times already, but I’m surprised you didn’t mention Gally’s hands. From what I’ve seen and read, he’s got the deadliest mitts in the draft.

    • Phil C says:

      Good choices. In a previous discussion you stated that teams should tend to use their 1st round pick on a forward because good forward talent is harder to find in later rounds whereas good defensemen can be found in later rounds, yet 5 of your top 10 picks are defensemen. Is this mock draft your prediction on the draft outcome, or who you think each team SHOULD take?

      I tend to agree with the best player available philosophy, so I like your to ten.

  37. Marc10 says:

    Very stoked to see future Habs playing prominent roles in this year’s tournament.

    That was a gutsy effort from the home side. They put that month off to good use and earned it big time. Congrats Cats!


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