Well-deserved day off for Habs on Monday

After a super Super Bowl weekend for the Canadiens – with wins over Buffalo and Ottawa – coach Michel Therrien gave his team a well-deserved day off on Monday.

With a 6-2-0 record through the weekend, the Canadiens sat in fourth place in the Eastern Conference standings but were only one point behind the first-place Boston Bruins (6-1-1), who will be the visitors at the Bell Centre on Wednesday night (7:30 p.m., TSN, RDS, TSN 690 Radio).

After eight games last season, the Canadiens had a 1-5-2 record.

After Wednesday’s game, the Canadiens travel to Buffalo to face the Sabres on Thursday night and they play host to the Toronto Maple Leafs on Saturday.

The Canadiens will practice at 11 a.m. Tuesday in Brossard.

If you missed the RDS premiere of the new 24CH docu-reality series, the English version will be shown tonight at 8 p.m. on TSN.

Here are links to some stories to keep you busy as we wait for the puck to drop Wednesday night:

Habs edge Sens for weekend home sweep, by Brenda Branswell

Bergevin puts a human face on Habs, by Jack Todd

Pacioretty quickly bounces back for Habs, by Dave Stubbs

Afternoon delight for Habs’ Price, by Pat Hickey

Senators burned by officials in loss to Canadiens, by Ottawa Citizen

Former NHL ref Kerry Fraser’s TSN blog on goalie interference calls

Thornton, Paille back on the ice for Bruins, by Boston Herald

Man you love to hate: Gary Bettman’s 20 NHL years, by Stu Hackel of Sports Illustrated

Victoria woman battling cancer thanks Roberto Luongo for saving her life, by Vancouver Sun

(Photo by Dario Ayala/The Gazette)

 

 

940 Comments

  1. jhab93 says:

    I think if we win the season series against the bruins(not impossible guys, we’re right behind them) that we win the division. That is a big if tho.

    Thats the way the cookie crumbles

  2. bwoar says:

    Random fandom comment: I hereby propose a ban on the phrase “last time I checked”. Because honestly, the last time y’all checked was f**king never.

    “thoroughbred”

  3. Lafrich says:

    I know it is only 8 games in, but when in the last, oh, 20 seasons have we seen the Habs in 1st place in 5 on 5 for/against:

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?fetchKey=20132ALLSAAAll&sort=goals5On5ForAgainstRatio&viewName=summary

  4. Adam says:

    Can we all just agree that having a logjam of 1st and 2nd line centres is the kind of problem this team has been longing to have for decades?
    I’m THRILLED that we have so much depth that Desharnais and Eller have to compete for ice time.
    When a player inevitably goes down to injury, this is the first time I can remember that the Habs actually have a number of players who can step up, and won’t have to immediately give Travis Moen top 6 minutes while desperately looking for a temporary replacement through a lopsided trade.

  5. HabinBurlington says:

    Shawn Thornton is already back skating, not ruled out for Wednesdays game officially.

    http://bostonherald.com/sports/bruins_nhl/bruins_insider/2013/02/thornton_paille_back_ice

    Bobby Orr weighs in on new Dman for Boston Hamilton.
    http://bostonherald.com/sports/bruins_nhl/boston_bruins/2013/02/no_orr_dinary_rookie

  6. Hobie Hansen says:

    Test….

    Son of a…

  7. Hobie Hansen says:

    Smartdog: If my profile picture bothers you please let me know and I’ll remove it ;-).

    Edit: It hasn’t changed yet…

  8. commandant says:

    Some quality comedy from an Islanders website.

    Subban’s Superbowl Party Rankles Traditionalists.

    http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2013/2/4/3946650/pk-subban-super-bowl-party-don-cherry-pj-stock-satire

    Go Habs Go!
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  9. Seps says:

    Don’t see it happening but just a thought… 4th line for Wednesday Moen-White-Stortini ?

    • Mr. Biter says:

      Now that sounds really good. You should be one of MT’s assistants. Like that energy line. Old Time Hockey.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

    • bwoar says:

      Terrible.
      1) Stortini is not a hockey player, he never was, and is not much a fighter anymore. More like a punching bag.

      2) Beating the Bruins should be done with HOCKEY, like we always do it, not playing their version of the sport and hoping to beat them at a game they’ve been playing for a lot longer.

      “thoroughbred”

    • B says:

      Stortini doubles his goal total for the season in the Dog’s last game, and ends up on the Hab’s 4th line as a reward? One man’s reward is another man’s punishment :)

      –Go Habs Go!–

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      NO Stortini. Apparently, for a while down with the Bulldogs (and maybe it’s still the same), the coach likes to use him and Hagel like JM used to use Darche despite Stortini always taking dumb penalties (probably like White, but twice as bad).

  10. HardHabits says:

    I am honoured that you all consider me a Tanker™.

    All I can say is “It was Noting!”

  11. Hobie Hansen says:

    While we’re on the topic of hoping someone from the Habs knocks out a Bruin; I’d love to see someone deliver a savage beating to Andrew Ference. Something about that guy, besides being a Bruin, bugs me?

    I’d also like to see Fankie “The Bull’ Boullion beat the snot out of Nathan Horton.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Ference should indeed just change his name to Douche. I know that sounds bad, but he has earned such status.

    • homerbowen says:

      Too much “bravado” my friend. We have no one close to match Lecic or Chara plus a few other of their goons. We need to stick to the game, speed and hustle and stay out of the box. We’re dead if we try to play tough guy with these animals.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        Agreed. We shouldn’t go looking for it but the Bruins won’t leave the Habs much of a choice than to drop the gloves on a couple occasions. Thank god Spacek and Hamerlik are gone!

    • CynicalHabsfan says:

      Yeah and I’d love to see dd knock out chara… and I know Tim Thomas isn’t playing, but if we could get Price to whoop him again, I would really enjoy that.

      Seriously let’s just focus on finishing the game with more goals. I think if we do that we have a pretty good shot at winning.

  12. HabinBurlington says:

    Go away for a few hours, get some work done, come back and surprise surprise we got ourselves a DD vs. Eller war! Woohoo, I think today we finally solve it too.

    • Bun E. Laroque says:

      Why exactly can they not coexist?

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I think in due time it will work out. My opinion on the matter is that this Eller vs. Desharnais is just a smoke screen for the fact of the matter, which is actually a Pro Therrien vs. Anti Therrien fight.

        Eller vs. Desharnais is just a cover up.

        • Hobie Hansen says:

          How could anyone be anti-Therrien? The team is 6-2 and looking a million times better than last year.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            It is just my spidey sense tingling that tells me some people still don’t like him as coach and use Eller as the red herring to express it.

            Edit: I must admit Hobie, when MB first announced Therrien I was freaking out inside. I have been very impressed.

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            Well anyone who doesn’t like Therrien can go find another site because they wouldn’t recognize a good coach if it bit them in the ass.

          • Cal says:

            Ummm, Hobie? Good coaches don’t bite people on the butt. They kick them there. ;)

          • Psycho29 says:

            I approve of this comment!

            :-)

          • HabinBurlington says:

            @Psycho, I do find your comments read completely different with your new Avatar.

        • K-hab25 says:

          Actually there are more than a few that fall into that category. I still think some are just really Eller vs DD though.

  13. The Cat says:

    Should be an interesting battle for the division between Ottawa, Boston and Montreal. The injury bug will decide but Id go with Ottawa who are pretty stingy defensive wise, 16 g in 9 games is pretty damn good when you consider they gave up 6 against TB. They were missing some big pieces, and truth be told, deserved a better fate yesterday.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • The Jackal says:

      A battle it will be, but on the subject of the Sens, I don’t think they will be the ones winning the division. They are a good team, but yesterday was not given to us. We deserved to win that game, and we battled hard and won – our D has been solid and Price has too. Yesterday, the same penalty that disallowed a Sens goal gave them a goal as well. The call against Pleks was totally bogus, and even if the call against Silfverberg was questionable, the Sens got a PP goal from a terrible call, and lost a goal from a questionable call, so its not like they were screwed. They had many other opportunities, and this game would have been 3-1, 4-1, had Bourque not hit a post, and had our other good chances gone in. In the end, we were the better team and we came out on top. I think the Habs will surprise people this year, Boston on Wednesday is the real test.

    • K-hab25 says:

      Well if you’re going on just what’s happened this season, the Habs are 6th in GFA and 5th in GAA. We’ve given up 1 more goal than they have, including 5 when Price didn’t play, 12 GA in 7 games Price started. We’re pretty good defensively too.

    • savethepuck says:

      I think maybe you haven’t closely followed the career of Craig Anderson. He has always stood on his head for a while followed by crapping the bed for several games. Very inconsistent, I’m definitely not letting 8 games change my opinion, he’s done this too many times before.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

      • The Cat says:

        Believe it or not I have followed Anderson for a while now, and yes I seen him get absolutely red hot for 3-4 games then crap out, but the sens arent getting pelted like FLA was back then.

        [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  14. dave_ch says:

    if anybody is interested in a pair of tickets to the game saturday, please let me know.. not trying to sell for financial gain. Friend backed out and would rather it go to true fans who couldn’t get tickets.

  15. punkster says:

    Palushaj on waivers.

    ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

  16. B says:

    Kerry Fraser weighs in on the goalie interference:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=415224

    –Go Habs Go!–

  17. Timo says:

    So who the Bruins got that we need to counter –

    – Thornton
    – McQuiad
    – Chara
    – Campbell?

    Habs:

    – Prust
    – Moen
    – White
    – Franky B?

  18. Mattyleg says:

    Bob McKenzie tweets:
    “NYR have traded Mike Rupp to MIN.”

    And the world ceased turning.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  19. Seps says:

    Who would’ve thought we’d be battling for first place in the division on Wednesday. Guess that’s why they play the games. Another thing I find amusing is we must be the only team in the NHL with 3 PP units.

    Also, being born in 1993 let me tell you this is the first exciting Habs team I’ve seen in my lifetime. I don’t have the privilege of some of the older fans on this site who witnessed the glory days. May the dynasty reign again.

  20. B says:

    Earlier post:
    “Desharnais “earned” the opportunity. With five points in his first 15 games with the Habs.”

    Follow-up:
    Eller had 1 point in his first 20 games with the Habs.

    In Eller’s first game with the Habs, he lead all forwards with 14:12 ES TOI and was also given 2:15 of PP TOI.

    In Desharnais’s first game with the Habs, he had 7:46 ES TOI and 0:09 PP TOI.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  21. HardHabits says:

    So is Eller versus Desharnais the new Halak versus Price?

  22. bwoar says:

    Pretty sure that if we just played Eller WITH Deharnais & Cole, and played Max Pac with the kids, we’d get all our best players in the top 9, still have a nasty line 4, and score a lot of goals. Just an experiment. There IS good reason to keep Prust with the Gallys but there’s something to be said for getting all 9 of the TOP 9 scoring guys into the mix.

    That said, I can see why Eller got to the 4th line – he ought to be playing centre, and he should be working on his faceoffs. There’s 4 C’s on this team for 3 spots (given that Prust or White ought to be #4 IMO) so that’s just how it goes until the inevitable (injury) happen.

    But yeah, I’d be just fine with Eller-Desharnais-Cole as a line. I think we have a good problem if we can’t find enough ice for all the good young forwards on the club.

    Imagine if Danny Kristo can manage the jump to the NHL next year……!

    “thoroughbred”

    • Cal says:

      When lines are scoring, you don’t change things for the sake of changing things. Right now, Eller is in a tight spot. The answer is: So what? He is insurance right now and MT is finding him ice time.

      http://calshabsongparodies.weebly.com

      • CynicalHabsfan says:

        Exactly. Eller will get (yet another) chance as soon as someone gets hurt, which might not take that long considering the condensed schedule.
        This is also why Kaberle isn’t going anywhere. If we actually find someone willing to trade for him, how much you wanna bet that we lose two dmen the first week he’s gone and have to play Weber and St. Denis twenty minutes each

    • Seps says:

      I’d agree with you, if we’re in the position where we need a goal but…

      1. If Maxpac did play with the Gally’s they would have to be the teams first line, moving pleky to line 3? Not sure how that would work in the dressing room.

      2. Prust needs to be with the young guys to make sure the other team doesn’t take any liberties on them. Galchenyuk is 18 and has a great future ahead of him, it’s more important he remains protected right now.

      3. Last time I checked (not saying Galchenyuk is Gretz) Semenko was no where near top 6 forwards on that Edmonton team yet he remained with Gretz. Just saying.

  23. Jimmy9Toes says:

    Well lets see. Before the season started, people on here were Bitc*ing about MT and MB. Once the season started people were talking about AG and why he should stay. Then it was all the PK not signed yet crap. Now after 8 games and a 6-2 record people are bitc*ing about LE and DD. If the Habs were 2-6 I, like most people on here would be bitc*ing about it, but they are 6-2 and 1 point out of first in the conference and have a chance to take the conference’s top spot on Wednesday. Personally i would like to see Armstrong in a skybox somewhere and Larry and Prusty switching spots from time to time. I would keep Prusty with the kids for the Bawston game and then move Larry with the kids for the next couple of games to see what he can do with some better linemates.

  24. Hobie Hansen says:

    I heard the Habs were going to sit Lars Ellers, David Desharnias and Raph Diaz and bring Lyle Odelein, Todd Ewen and Chris Nilan out of retirement for Wednesday’s game against Boston. They put a call out to Donald Brashear and Scott Thornton as well and are waiting to hear back.

  25. If trading Eller makes sense, I don’t see how. He’s signed for just $1.3M next year, and is still an RFA after that. He plays in all situations, At his worst, he’s streaky and invisible — but not error-prone. But when he’s on his game, with decent linemates, he’s an exciting player. His 16 goals last year on an abysmal team tied Desharnais, who enjoyed top-line minutes with the same top-line wingers all year — playing consistently with wingers of that quality, Eller may well have upped his assists to match DD’s 44.

    I’m not slagging DD — he’s a hard-working guy with a really good pass and a knack for making plays, and he helps the team win. But Eller is three years younger, faster, bigger, has a good shot and works like crazy. All the love for Eller is a reflection of this, and I just hope he gets the same opportunity DD did to show us what he can do.

    Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

    • Lafleurguy says:

      With Gainey at my side, I would hold off trading in my car (with apologies).

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Works like crazy? I’d say until a recent “kick in the ass”, there is one person that would strongly disagree with that.

      Let’s hope he gets the message. I personally think DD shows more pretty much every game.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • DD surely is a better player right now, and he deserves to be where he is. But he’s had three more years to get there.

        I’m just saying let’s not give up on Eller just yet, or send him off for a 3rd-rounder or a Janne Niinima to blossom into a 2nd-line centre somewhere else. We want to hang onto this kid.

        Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

        • Habsrule1 says:

          I agree. I’d love to see Galchenyuk, DD, and Eller all playing big roles in the next year or 2. That may mean a big trade or moving one or more of them to the wing and keeping them there.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

        • Steeltown Hab says:

          True, people don’t consider that at Eller’s age DD hadn’t even made the NHL yet.

          Eller’s first AHL at 20 years old 57 pts in 70 games
          DD first AHL year at 22 years old 58 pts in 77 games

          Let’s consider the natural development curve.

          ———————————

          Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      You just articulated my position as well.
      Almost feel bad for the kid. He gets 3 points on Saturday and is then promptly moved to the 4th line.

      Almost every day that kid comes into work he ends up finding out he’s on a different line, in a different position with new linemates.

      Must be tough to develop any sort of chemistry or sustain any amount of consistency when you’re moved around as much as he is.

      Lars has to simply remain positive and keep working hard. At some point he will get his opportunity – I just hope it’s with the Habs.

    • K-hab25 says:

      Plekanec has had ONE season with more assists, 45 and only TWO over 60 points, 69 and 70. So now we’re to believe not only is Eller better than DD, but better than Plekanec aswell.

  26. GuyDoon says:

    Good Monday morning everyone!
    First, you have to be happy about the weekend. Two wins agains division teams (even if that disallowed goals was brutal, you have to remember that these things tend to even out anyway, so enjoy it!)
    Second, did anyone else notice that Markov seemed to be labouring a bit?
    Third, last season, the coaches seemed to favour the “I won’t change a winning line-up” approach, specially when they won more that one in a row (albeit rare). It looks like this year, the adjustments are made according to what the coach believes is best for the team. The same applies during the games. The players who are hot are sent over the boards. Imagine that, the coach is coaching! Next up, the Bruins.
    Tell me, who do you think is the Habs greatest rival? Or enjoy beating most! (Flyers, Bruins, Leafs?) I can’t decide between the Bruins and Leafs.

  27. Lafleurguy says:

    Playing “Eller vs. Desharnais” is unneccesary. Prust is versatile and not entrenched at the centre position. I thought it informative to read over Jordan Staal’s career stats. At 24, he’s one year older than Lars and as fans know far more established than the can-he-be Great Dane. Even with the Kid out for 13 months, Staal’s ice time stayed consistently around 20 min. In 6 seasons, two cut short by injury, Staal’s had four 20 goal seasons, topping off at 29. His high for points is 57 (21G).

    I think Eller will produce like J. Staal, and has shown he’s better than Kyle Chipchura, Benoit Pouliot, Turner Stevenson, and I’m-having-trouble-recalling other young Habs power forwards. I believe Eller had that good game subbing for Pax on Desharnais’left side.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  28. frontenac1 says:

    Eller is finally starting to get it IMO. He needed some fire in the belly. Viking Juices. Just because you don’t have the best linemates is no reason to zone out into your own little world. Every shift is about wanting the puck more than the opposition and sacrificing yourself for your linemates whoever they are.I believe the benching earlier helped Lars and the team aheck of a lot. Hope he keeps it going.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      3-pt night unfortunately resulted in a shot centering Moen and Armstrong. Constantly the odd man out, Wouldn’t mind seeing one of Bourque, Pacioretty with the freshman to accommodate Eller in the top 9. Tough to make an argument to break up the Plek line / not feature Pac on a top 2 line though.

      ———————————

      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

      • commandant says:

        Why would you change lines that have worked, to give someone a chance?

        He’ll get his chance, when injuries occur.

        As long as current lines are scoring, you don’t mess with that.

        And a line that scored over 80 goals last season gets to stay together for more than 4 games to try and find chemistry this season. This is common sense.

        Go Habs Go!
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        • Steeltown Hab says:

          I clearly said tough to make an argument. You could argue that line wasn’t scoring, albeit through 4 games. Just saying I’d like to see talent like Eller in the top 9 but I’m understanding of the circumstance.

          We disagree on DD vs Eller debate so be it, but I can admit DD brings something to the table but your analysis is lost on Eller when you’re basing it off stats alone. There’s a diff between actually knowing how to evaluate a players game play and re-iterating stats that don’t paint the entire picture.

          ———————————

          Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

          • K-hab25 says:

            Yup and hopefully one day you learn it.

          • commandant says:

            Okay, you want an analysis of Eller’s game play.

            Here is what I see, a young player who shows flashes of brilliance but is also inconsistent in those flashes.

            Who can be a beast in puck possession one game, great in board battles and controling the play and setting up teammates one night, and then soft on the puck and making bad decisions the next.

            A guy with a good shot, he doesn’t use enough.

            A player who will drive the net, but again doesn’t do so consistently.

            A player who can look great defensively one game, and who looks soft the next.

            When he shows that consistency, he’ll earn his spot in the top 9. He’s slowly getting better, but he’s still not there yet.

            He’ll get his chance with linemates because our top 9 will not stay healthy all season long.

            Go Habs Go!
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          • Steeltown Hab says:

            @commandant

            How is he supposed to sustain consistency pts wise playing with Moen and Armstrong.

            ———————————

            Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

    • helluva habs fan says:

      Agree completely. He’s looked a lot less timid over the last 3-4 games. Saturday was a brilliant performace and I’m not just saying that because of his 3 points. Tough to be bumped to the 4th line, but that’s going to happen on a perfectly healthy team.

      To those arguing that he deserves time with quality linemates, I have to agree. He absolutely deserves it. Problem is no one on the top two lines deserves a demotion.

      If I were the coach, I’d rotate him and Prust between the 3rd and 4th line winger spots. Prust’s presence on the ice offers some protection to the youngsters, but there’s no harm throwing Eller out there for a number of shifts a game. Sacrifice physicality for speed and skill.

  29. Ian Cobb says:

    30 TEAMS we are in 5th place with 12 points.

    DIV GP W L OT P ROW GF GA Diff Home Away S/O L10 Streak
    1
    Chicago CEN 9 7 0 2 16 6 28 20 +8 2-0-0 5-0-2 1-2 7-0-2 Won 1
    2
    San Jose PAC 8 7 0 1 15 5 30 14 +16 5-0-1 2-0-0 2-1 7-0-1 OT 1
    3
    Boston NE 8 6 1 1 13 4 24 19 +5 4-1-0 2-0-1 2-0 6-1-1 Won 1
    4
    Tampa Bay SE 8 6 2 0 12 6 39 21 +18 5-1-0 1-1-0 – 6-2-0 Lost 1
    5
    Montréal NE 8 6 2 0 12 6 26 17 +9 5-1-0 1-1-0 – 6-2-0 Won 2
    6
    St. Louis CEN 8 6 2 0 12 5 31 19 +12 3-0-0 3-2-0 1-0 6-2-0 Lost 1
    7
    Pittsburgh ATL 9 6 3 0 12 5 30 22 +8 1-2-0 5-1-0 1-0 6-3-0 Won 3
    8

  30. Hobie Hansen says:

    Maybe we can send Eller back to St Louis and get real compensation for giving them one of the better goalies in the league? Perron or Stewart would be nice.

  31. Mr. Biter says:

    Going on a bit of a limb but White will play Vs. Broons. Will Eller or Armstrong sit. probably Eller as he’s not suited for a 4th line center espically vs. Broons. I can forsee the two of them rotating and Eller playing on a higher line due to injury and then White full time on 4th line. All the whining on this site when we had to play against the Broons “Energy Line” and White makes our 4th line and “energy line” and Eller does not. Eller is overall a better player than White but both have different roles with the Habs and both are needed.

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

    • Timo says:

      I think Eller playing wing would be an upgrade over Armstrong, who to date, hasn’t done anything to deserve any kind of ice time.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      Armstrong should sit. Eller can role with White and Moen. Take the odd shift with the 3rd line with Prust taking the odd shit with the 4th, Eller can also be used on PP and PK. Also gives us another Center in the arsenal which never hurts, especially considering the way guys are being thrown out of the circle left n right.

      ———————————

      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

  32. mdp2011 says:

    I can’t believe how some posters want to diminish what DD has accomplshed in his career. DD has never been handed anything in his career, he’s earned everything that he has. Also, the same people who keep bashing DD, keep making excuse after excuse for why Eller hasn’t succeeded yet in the NHL, it really boggles the mind.

    • HardHabits says:

      I had concerns that maybe he had peaked last season and was headed for decline. His last few games have allayed these concerns. He’s stepped up his play, is winning battles, is winning key face-offs and is contributing on the scoreboard. Can’t ask for more.

      It’s better to score by committee and the Habs so far have the scoring spread out over 3 lines with goals and assists coming from the back end as well.

    • Mr. Biter says:

      Gomez’s is gone so now the new whipping boys are Kabs (big contract) and DD for being small.Funny about the love for Eller (who I do like) cuse last year many posters wanted to be rid of him.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

  33. commandant says:

    2010-11 season…. David Desharnais….. most common linemates (as a part of the 5 man unit) from Behindthenet.ca

    1) Benoit Pouliot
    2) PK Subban
    3) Ryan White
    4) Roman Hamrlik
    5) James Wisniewski

    To believe he was playing with Pacioretty at that time is selective memory and not seen in the stats, which show a line of

    Pouliot – Desharnais – White

    Go Habs Go!
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    • commandant says:

      Same season, most common linemates for Pacioretty

      Gionta, Gomez, Hamrlik, subban, Wiz

      Go Habs Go!
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      • K-hab25 says:

        Yup, that’s how I remember it. Not surprising Pacioretty is at his most productive playing with playmaking centers. Also not surprising playmaking centers are productive playing with Pacioretty. :-)

    • mdp2011 says:

      yes, but don’t you know that Eller has never been given the chance to play with Pouliot and White. If he did, he would had 90 points last year.

    • shiram says:

      Can’t you all just agree to disagree? It’s just going round in circles.
      We’ve got talented centers, and Therrien will do whatever the Eff he wants with them… good or bad, reasonable or not.
      It’s disconcerting to see such turmoil when the team is winning and just about every player is playing well.
      I’ll just conclude by saying Eller should get more PK time, it’s one place where we know he does well.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      To suggest DD hasn’t got an opportunity to play with better talent than Eller (from the C position) is a little foolish. Don’t want to knock DD, I’m a fan of his and can appreciate his contributions. Just not sure I think we should be sold on him as the uncontested piece at C for the future behind Galchenyuk.

      A perfect example is how Eller has a 3-pt night, arguably the best fwd vs Buffalo than gets the demotion to the 4th line. I’m not suggesting putting DD there by any means but just shows when he is producing it’s not like he’s being given a chance to run with it.

      Elliot Friedman said on HNIC that MB told him when he took over the GM job that he received an overwhelming amount of calls from GMs around the league asking about Ellers availability. I think that tells you something when people in hockey notice this guy from an extremely limited role. Just hoping he gets a fair shot with the club.

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      • commandant says:

        DD clearly earned his spot on the first line. 60 points is hard to argue with.

        The argument was that he got an opportunity with better third liners than Eller got in 2010-11. Thats simply not true.

        DD had 22 points in 44 games (a 40 point pace or better than anything Eller’s ever done) playing with Pouliot and White. Not exactly the best linemates in the world.

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        • Steeltown Hab says:

          Okay well if you’re speaking to 2010-2011 season specifically wouldn’t something to consider be that it was Eller’s rookie year, while DD (rookie as well) was 24 years old and a lot further in the natural progression of a pro hockey player?

          Eller also just his 2nd year removed from Sweden playing on bigger ice his whole life. Desharnais at Ellers age NOW hadn’t even made the NHL yet.

          All I’m suggesting is that to consider DD to have a better future or to be a more important piece for this org. long term based on a couple years is pretty premature.

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  34. Bardya says:

    I’m against any trade atm, but if we must, then it should be Gionta.

  35. Propwash says:

    Paloosh is on waivers.

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  36. SmartDog says:

    ONE LAST CATHARTIC RELEASE OF ANGST….
    I am VERY impressed with the good calls both MB and MT have been making. Getting rid of the right guys, sitting the right guys (cough-Kaberle-cough), making changes based on – GASP! – performance!!! Bringing in Prust and keeping the kids up together giving us a REAL third line that has energy AND can score.

    There is no question that Bergevin and Therrien and the rest of the coaching staff are to be credited with the decisions they’ve made so far. They are sound. They make sense. And they are producing results. But why are we so socked?

    After Gauthier and Martin how many of us are wondering – is it so hard for guys supposedly at the top of their profession to make good decisions at that level? Or did Martin and Gauthier just make it look like Maggie the Monkey could have done a better job picking players to trade for and who to put on the ice when you need a goal with 2 minutes left?

    My hat is off to Brian Wilde for being the sportscaster most likely to call a load of crap, a load of crap. On the radio this week-end he was still referring (with venom) to Gauthier as the worst GM in 100+ years of Habs hockey. I love it. Not because it’s “mean” but because it’s true. The goat – the man behind the Scott Gomez for Ryan McDonagh trade as head of pro scouting, who also brought in Kaberle (for god knows what reason) was HORRIBLE.

    And on that note what I also want to know is – where are all those people who on this forum were saying things like “are you the GM of a hockey team?” as if you had to be a PAID expert to see that Gauthier was crapping the bed (and then hiding under the sheets). Or that Martin was hurting the team by not benching Gomez or other under-performing veterans. If anything Gauthier and Martin are proof that rising to the top of their profession is by no means proof of ability. It’s just a job.

    Okay, I’m done. But I don’t want to forget what a clownfest it was here last year. Or what that looks like. It only makes me feel better about where we are now. Like Patches, the team seems to heal quickly.

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    • HabFanSince72 says:

      What nonsense. Gauthier was GM for one year. And we don’t know who was the main driving force behind the Gomez trade but Gainey has to take the responsibility for that one.

      In any case, obviously Reggie Houle was the worst ever.

      Not saying the Goat did a good job, but it’s fairly clear that he held sports reporters in contempt and this is why they hate him (see Todd’s Monday morning bile explosion in today’s Gazette.)


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • SmartDog says:

        If you think communication has no role in the effectiveness of a GM…. I have no argument except to say I disagree 100%.

        And Houle may be as bad, but on a pro-rated basis for time int eh chair, I’d wager Gauthier wins.

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    • powdered toastmann says:

      + 1000000000000000000000000000 (to intelli-bowser’s comments)

      Goat was the worst bar none. (Houle a distant 2nd)

      Aside from being an obvious failure re performance in his role as GM, his total failure to address obvious deficiencies as well as puzzling actions/inactions elicited (big-time) ridicule directed at/embarassment for this once proud organization.

    • Cal says:

      Houle was the absolute worst ever. Roy traded with captain Keane for crap. Leclair and Desjardins to Philly for Dr. Crap. (I still don’t understand that one. Trading a Dman who scored a hat trick in the Cup Final and a winger who scored 2 OT Cup Final goals. What idiocy!)

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  37. Say Ash says:

    *** ATTENTION DEVS ***
    I got this message when visiting HIO this morning:

    “Google Chrome has blocked access to this page on http://www.hockeyinsideout.com.
    Content from cmi.netseer.com, a known malware distributor, has been inserted into this web page. Visiting this page now is very likely to infect your computer with malware.”

  38. shiram says:

    “Last year was a fluke,” captain Brian Gionta said after Sunday’s 2-1 win over Ottawa at the Bell Centre. “We knew we were better than that.”
    Caught this bit in Jack Todd’s piece, and it’s one I fully agree with.
    The team last season was better than what their finish indicated, and the team’s current success cannot be all awarded to the new coaching staff.

    • Hamayoune says:

      If your point is that the current edition of the team is very similar to last year’s, then the most significant variable that has changed is the coaching staff (and management). In that case, yes a great deal of the early success can be awarded to the coaching staff

      • powdered toastmann says:

        Agree…along with improved health of some players.

      • shiram says:

        They are doing a bang up job, and I did not mean it to be a slight against Therrien and his assistant, the lot of of them making a good impression on me so far, even if I did not like the Therrien hiring at the time.
        Habs would not be off to such a good start if it did not have the players they have, and the roster stayed fairly similar from last season.

  39. Loonie says:

    Desharnais “earned” the opportunity.

    With five points in his first 15 games with the Habs.

    • commandant says:

      And that is relevant?

      60 points last season, and you want to give Eller his spot as an experiment, cause he’s never had wingers like that.

      With no actual evidence of any chemistry with said linemates?

      Its a 48 game season, you don’t break up what works, for maybes…. its a sprint to the finish and an attempt to make it to the playoffs… not a time to experiment to see what Eller can do.

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      • Kooch7800 says:

        further to your point DD produced on the third line and that is when the management really started to take notice.

        Eller will get his shot…we are 8 games in to the season with the new regime.

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Loonie says:

        Below you said somebody’s fallen in love with the idea of what Eller “could be”.

        I think it’s you who’s fallen in love with the idea of what you don’t think Eller is.

        In a third line role he had stretches of elite offensive production with Travis Moen and Andrei Kostitsyn. But that doesn’t merit a look in a more offensive role? What does then Ben?

        Desharnais’ elevation to a top six role is relevant in discussing the comparison between him and Eller because Desharnais not only had better circumstances in his third line role which he by the way made no better use of than Eller has, but it’s relevant for the determination of where this team goes in the future. If it’s to continue being selective in its determination of meriting opportunities then we’ll never have an extended look at Eller in an offensive role and won’t be able to make an accurate determination about what his potential is.

        Easy for you to say that his ceiling is 60 points but you’ll have to forgive me for finding that funny. You said it as if were a statement of fact.

        If Eller is playing better than Desharnais, and it’s been damn close, Eller should get the opportunity to become a better player by being put in a role that will allow him to prove that he can. Of course, if he doesn’t play better than Desharnais he shouldn’t get the chance.

        Last season there was no argument to be had. This season there is.

        • commandant says:

          So after 8 games, in which we are 6-2-0. In which DD scored two goals on Saturday, and in which DD scored again on Sunday (and Cole scored the other with DD and Max on the ice, but assisted by the D). We should break up lines and try experiments?

          Eller can sit and wait for his opportunity.

          An opportunity will come. There will be an injury in the top 9 at some point. When he gets that chance it will be up to him to seize the opportunity as DD did last year.

          But you don’t break something up thats working just for an experiment.

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          • Loonie says:

            Right. Don’t break up something that’s working. So don’t send a player who scored three points in his second game with skill around him to the fourth line.

            Glad we agree.

          • commandant says:

            We break up something that worked for 75 or so games last season, in order to use something that worked for 1 game out of 3 that it was tried.

            Is this really what you just argued Loonie?

            I thought you were above such an obvious strawman.

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          • Loonie says:

            If it isn’t working this year. And it wasn’t without Pacioretty, then yes, you break it up.

            If this team is truly to be about accountability and earning chances for larger roles, why are we holding players back when they do what’s asked of them?

      • Hamayoune says:

        Good point. Don’t change a recipe that is working (that line is back on fire).

        As for Eller, I cannot see him earning a top 2 line job with Habs. Our best bet, is to give him a chance elsewhere and get something valuable in return. Niederreiter anyone? (This is only fun speculation)

        • helluva habs fan says:

          Agree and disagree. I wouldn’t break up that top trio. Too much chemistry between Patch and DD. Despite a slow start, things seem to be improving.

          But they cannot give up on Eller yet. Too much talent and potential there. He has enough offensive skill that, when one of our top 6 goes down, he can fill in and we shouldn’t miss a beat. It’s gotta be tough for him, but he’s the victim of a perfectly healthy lineup. That ain’t gonna last, folks. I think he’s improved in every game this year and definately deserves an opportunity.

          My suggestion for the time being is to give him some shifts with the kid line. Not all game because I like the idea of Prust the Protector, but Eller has the speed and skill to keep up with the kids. They could be VERY dangerous.

    • K-hab25 says:

      Cole and Pacioretty weren’t exactly lighting the world on fire. As a matter fact Cole struggled playing with the great Plekanec and goal scorer Cammalleri. Wait, goal scorer Cammalleri struggled too and so did Kostitsyn and Bourque, all with Plekanec. Imagine that, wingers struggling to be productive playing with Plekanec.

      • Loonie says:

        I’m talking about Desharnais’ first 15 games as a Hab. Cole wasn’t even here.

        This is relevant when comparing the opportunities Eller and Desharnais have had to prove their value to the club and seize larger roles.

        Desharnais was given patience and talented linemates. Two things Eller’s never been given on a basis that could be considered even close to consistent.

        • K-hab25 says:

          Who were his talented linemates? Plekanec got Cammalleri and Kostitsyn, Gomez got Gionta and Pacioretty. Who were these talented linemates?

          • commandant says:

            He got 22 points in 43 games, and K-hab is right, who was he playing with?

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          • Loonie says:

            Desharnais had Pacioretty too. Pacioretty started with Gomez and Gionta and was put with Desharnais shortly after he was called up.

            Then Pouliot went back on a line with Gomez and Gionta.

          • Ozmodiar says:

            DD played mostly with Pouliot + White/Moen/Darche/Pyatt.

            /score one for team Desharnais ;)

          • K-hab25 says:

            I think you’re misremembering Tom, Pacioretty played on the Gomez line almost his entire time that year, until Chara almost killed him.

      • SmartDog says:

        Who didn’t struggle under Martin?

        The fact that DD and Patches had been coached together by someone else (in Hamilton) probably helped them. But all in all, the fact that DD was able to do what he did last year is a credit to him regardless.

        But don’t go crapping on Plekanec. No true Habs fan who understands the game would do that.

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        • K-hab25 says:

          Look I think Plekanec is the best defensive player on the team, throw in 20 goals and 30 assists and you have a very valuable player. I’m just tired of the winger argument for him and Eller. The facts are both are capable of beautiful passes, but neither is a playmaker. I just like to show that Plekanec, who’s definitely better than Eller is at this point is, has had up and down seasons despite his wingers or coach. His infamous little girl comment happened before Martin coached here. I’m just tired of the same excuses for Plekanec when he’s not playing well, his wingers, is now being used as a reason why Eller is better than DD.

      • Ozmodiar says:

        Cole hardly played with Pleks. :)

        Others might struggle a bit playing in a role where they’re asked to do more than score.

        • K-hab25 says:

          Yup he did hardly play with him, because he was struggling. Then they paired him DD and Pacioretty, no more struggling. I guess Pacioretty is just that much better than Cammalleri, or DD is a better playmaker than Plekanec.

          • Ozmodiar says:

            Cole was struggling like he was this year….without a great sample size. :)

            BTW… Cole played more with Max+Pleks than Cammy+Pleks. Your logic assumes Pleks and Cammy are a package deal.

          • K-hab25 says:

            Actually he didn’t play well with Plekanec despite who the other winger was. Which proves my point, Plekanec is not a playmaker and DD is. Guys like Cole and Pacioretty play better with playmaking centers like DD, or even Gomez.

    • Phil C says:

      Montreal was a much more depleted lineup last year, so DD was lucky in that sense. The same opportunity was given to Eller incidentally, but DD outplayed him for the job last year too.

      DD played himself onto the top line last year. To say anything else would be revisionist history. He wasn’t even on the 1st wave of the PP when he was put on a line with Cole and Pacioretty. Once they started producing, they got more opportunities.

      Cole had his most productive season ever playing with DD. Coincidence, or cause and effect? I think Cole needs a centre who can get him the puck with speed, and no one on the Habs can do that better than DD. Once Cole gets it going again, DD will produce even more.

      Eller will get his chance this year as well. With a shortened season, there will be more injuries in the top six. In the meantime, he should take a page from DD’s book and earn the coach’s trust so that when the opportunity comes he can seize it.

    • B says:

      Earlier post:
      “Desharnais “earned” the opportunity. With five points in his first 15 games with the Habs.”

      Follow-up:
      Eller had 1 point in his first 20 games with the Habs.

      In Eller’s first game with the Habs, he lead all forwards with 14:12 ES TOI and was also given 2:15 of PP TOI.

      In Desharnais’s first game with the Habs, he had 7:46 ES TOI and 0:09 PP TOI.

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  40. habsfan0 says:

    Boston,Buffalo,Toronto.
    The game I’m least optimistic about is against the Sabres.
    On the road,2nd game of a back to back,and it’s highly unlikely Buffalo will continue to suck as badly as they have been recently.

  41. lavie says:

    24CH the English version of the series debuts tonight at 8pm et on TSN:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=415212

  42. shiram says:

    With the team running well, possible injuries and the need for some depth at forward, depth with skills, I don’t see a reason to trade any of the Habs key centers.
    It just does not make sense right now.
    Also, if Eller is the Habs players most requested in a trade, it has to show he has some worth.

    • B says:

      I see no reason to start shipping out the teams depth players (fwds or D) unless a trade presents itself that clearly improves the team (which is always worth doing). Stuff happens and the team has some decent depth right now.

      –Go Habs Go!–

    • Kooch7800 says:

      There is no need for the habs to make any major trades this early unless it is for Weber or Kabrele that really don’t fit in any more and when you have St Denis or Tinordi that can be called up on the back end they can be moved.

      There will be injuries this season with this brutal schedule

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  43. Ian Cobb says:

    My weekly 3 stats report on where we are positioned in this 30 team league, compared to the previous week.

    Total points—-12, in 5th place.. Last week 6 for 7th place.

    Goals for——-26, in 10th place.. Last week 13 for 17th place.

    Goals against-17, in 3rd place.. Last week 7 for 1st place.

  44. Chuck says:

    Down below, Gerald mentioned the late, great Roger Doucet. What’s better than a rousing interpretation of our national anthem by Roger? Follow it up with a welcome from the great Danny Gallivan and a beating of the Laffs in the playoffs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTJw2lYgXOA

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  45. HardHabits says:

    Re-posted from the other thread:

    Some interesting statistical evidence:

    – Gallagher leads the team with a +6 (the current league leader is +8).
    – Galchenyuk is 2nd with a +5.
    – Bouillon leads the D with a +4.
    – Galchenyuk and Gallagher are in the top 5 in scoring for rookies this season.

    – Diaz and Markov lead the team with 8 points each (only two D men have more points in the league, 3 others are tied at 8).
    – Galchenyuk and Plekanec are in 2nd and have 7 points each.

    – Markov and Plekanec lead with 4 goals apiece.
    – Desharnais, Bourque and Gallagher have 3.

    – Price is 4th over-all in GAA and Sv%. Ottawa’s Anderson is 1st in both categories.

    – The Habs are 6th in goals for per game and 5th in goals against per game.
    – They have the 9th best PK% and are 14th over-all for PP%.

    The Habs are a better 5 on 5 team than they have been in quite a long while. They are currently among the elite in the NHL without having to too heavily rely on special teams, however elite goaltending has been a significant factor. They are top 10 in 3 important categories and are getting top 5 goaltending. The Habs have many lethal scoring options, including a very decent PP, with scoring coming from the back end as well as spread out across three forward lines. The 4th line is as crash and bang as they come, are defensively responsible and are capable of popping in a few goals here and there. With Subban in the line-up, Diaz and Emelin playing like seasoned veterans, Markov pulling a Selanne, Gorges leading the league in blocked shots, and Bouillion rejuvenated, the Habs have 6 solid D, add to that 4 lines ready to roll, and the Habs appear to be a complete NHL team, the only marginally weak part being the back-up goalie. If Budaj can have a split or better over 6-8 games there is a very good chance the Habs finish in the top 10 over-all. They’d have to keep up their current excellence to do that and that’s why they play the games.

    1/6th of the season has been played. 5/6th left to see where the cards fall. It’s been exciting so far.

  46. Loonie says:

    Funny the word meritocracy isn’t being thrown around like a hot potato today like it has for the last couple of weeks.

  47. Lafleurguy says:

    14 respondents to Smart Dog’s poll. Gotta be a record!
    votes for highest (current) value to the team, head-to-head
    Pleks – 11.5
    Pax – 1
    Prust – 0.5
    DD – 0
    Abstain- 1

  48. rhino514 says:

    Did anyone notice the save by Price, I believe it was on alfredson but i could be wrong, he literally turned around when he was almost lying on the ice and managed to dive to the far post…i tried to see the video of this save but it is the one link that doens´t work, strange, Anyone have a link to that save?

  49. HabFanSince72 says:

    The Eller-love is something to behold. It’s like some of you believe the goal of the Canadiens organization is to provide fertile ground for the blooming of Lars Eller.

    Trade or bench David Desharnais to give Lars Eller a chance.

    Break up the surprisingly good Prust-G-G line to give Eller his chance.

    Trade Plekanec to give Eller his chance.

    Are you all his girlfriend?


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • krob1000 says:

      I just don;t see the offesnvie difference between Dd and Eller..and I do see the ohter facets of the game all being advantage Eller now and down the road(which are IMO are more important). Eller will be able to be matched agaisnt any line down the orad..and still be a scoring threat a la Plekanec. A guy like that behiund a center like Galchenyuk can be very good…fortunately the team has a Plekanec for now…but heaven help the HAbs if he goes down to injury….unless Eller is around…and when Pleks loses a step.
      Pleks is somewhat polarizing on here as well but to me is the best all round player on the HAbs and has been since Markov first hit his run of injuries…and now Markov is looking good but time has talken aits toll and I give that crown to Pleks hands down right now as Habs best player (goalies not counted)

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        That Eller has potential is undeniable, but DD is just better right now.


        Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • Cal says:

        Having one too many centers is a good problem to have. Eller is insurance, in a way.

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      • commandant says:

        I think you’ve fallen in love with the idea of what Eller could be, and not the reality of what Eller actually is.

        Could he play Plekanec’s role? Could he score 60 points like Desharnais did last year?

        Sure he COULD… in time, with more development, and assuming he reaches 100% of his ceiling with no setbacks (something very rare, reaching 100% of your potential).

        But the reality is this… right now, he hasn’t proved his offence is better than Eller. He hasn’t proved his defence is as good as Plekanec, and he hasn’t proven to be more valuable than the three guys ahead of him.

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        • Loonie says:

          I suppose if you were to ignore what he’s done with skilled linemates and completely disregarded his defensive ability and production all of that would be true.

          You seem to be the champion of the Desharnais had to earn his way to the top crowd.

          Funny thing is that when Desharnais was with this team in a third line role that top 9 was significantly better than the top 9 at any point when Eller was in the same role.

          Desharnais had the benefit of skilled linemates when he was this team’s third line centreman. They’ve both made the most of their opportunities. But Eller brings better defense.

          You want a true comparison? Let’s see what Desharnais’ like with White and Armstrong if his play calls for a temporary demotion(it already has but the trigger wasn’t pulled).

          The notion that Desharnais had to slug it up a mountain in minus fifty degree weather in his grandfather’s pajamas is convenient for the purposes of justifying the lack of opportunity for Eller.

          Just so happens that Desharnais was in fact surrounded by skilled players at the time he was evaluated for a larger role with the team and that Eller hasn’t had that luxury.

          So comparing their developmental circumstances is again foolish. And because of that saying Eller would have to peak in order to match Desharnais’ season from a year ago is also foolish. We have a small idea of what Eller’s capable of offensively in a similar role. And the signs are great.

          • commandant says:

            These are all COULDs

            There has never been long term production, even when Kostitsyn was on his line for long periods of time.

            He’s been inconsistent at best, and thats not a bad thing, its the story of many 22 year old NHLers to be inconsistent.

            But really nothing he has done justifies replacing a guy who got 60 points last season, just for the sake of “well maybe if we gave Eller the same opportunity, he’d get the same points”

            The world isn’t about Maybes… its about what are you doing right here, right now. And there is no reason to break up the team’s most successful line from last season at this point in time for a mere experiment.

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          • Loonie says:

            No these aren’t coulds Ben. This is realistic. The kid gets his second game with two skilled players and scores three points.

            Next game? Fourth line centreman.

            Now there’s a meritocracy for ya.

    • K-hab25 says:

      Well replacing DD is really more about DD than Eller, some just really don’t believe in him, I definitely do, but some don’t.

      Plekanec is more of an age and contract thing. When it looked like we were going to be bad for awhile, the thinking was trade him for a top young prospect or high pick. I actually agreed with this, but only if we were rebuilding. Again not really an Eller based decision, just a smart one for a rebuilding team.

      With the kid line I personally believe that is the perfect landing spot for Eller, while Prust joins his 4th line mates. Really not a big believer in the “kids” needing a babysitter. I liked Prust on that line because he’s defensively responsible, not to protect the children. Eller is just as good defensively and plays more of a skill game like Galchenyuk. I really think those two could be really good together. Throw in the little engine that could and we might really have something special.

  50. frontenac1 says:

    Left the Fronts game after the 2nd to Go to the Saloon to watch the Habs game.Glad we did,Fronts lost 5-2 to Sting.Their 11th loss in a row. Same old sh*t. The Saloon never plays the sound for games ,always music. I like that.It works best, unless you’re blind. Bob Cole only works after a couple of Single Malts and a Rocket. Saludos!

  51. Phil C says:

    If the Habs are to pick up a physical defenseman at the deadline, it would probably have to be a pending UFA, otherwise the price would likely be too high.

    So how about Ryan O’Byrne? He is a UFA this summer, he is a known commodity, and anyone who would steal a purse for his teammate should fit in well with Therrien. ;-)

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      We already have 8 defencemen, do we really need another? Who would you take out?

      • Phil C says:

        I think Weber or Kaberle are redundant on this team. Either or.

        • Ghosts of the Forum says:

          Neither of them play though…who would you take out of the starting 6? Or just do it a game by game basis? Put OB in for the Bruins, etc. Still, would be hard to take out Diaz or Frankie at this point. And Emelin hits like a truck, need him for those games. Gorges, Markov and Subby are untouchables in my books…

    • powdered toastmann says:

      Interesting idea. Always had a soft spot for OB. We have seen you-tube evidence of him backing team mates after his trade as we had see him back team mates in Montreal (when given the opportunity to do so).

      My only “live view” of a Habs game was OB’s own goal game (a couple/few of years ago…a Mon. nighter against the Isles…go figure). Shameful how a large % of the crowd were merciless in their derision directed @ a young rookie struggling to make it during the Gong Show year(s) in Montreal)

      I’m sure he’s “filled in” his tall frame since his rookie days with the Habs. Always wondered about his “nasty level” though. (too nice a guy?)

        • powdered toastmann says:

          Yup…thats what I said.

          • Phil C says:

            As an example of nasty, I didn’t make myself clear. But he is not nasty like Pronger, if that’s what you mean. He did have 180 hits last year including this one on Chara: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJmlt0I8gRg

          • powdered toastmann says:

            thanks…I’m @ work (“Content blocked by my organization”)…will check it at home.

            Like I say…interesting idea. I remember the (Hab) organization seeming to mis-use him while he was here (could have kept him paired with a good mentor like Gill (but I don’t believe hal Gill was with us then). I think this resulted in him having confidence issues as a young d’man.

            I haven’t seen him play since (except on you-tube videos) but if he’s not backing off when presented with an opportunity to hit Chara, maybe he’s progressed in his player development, confidence, and physical development)

  52. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Michel Therrien was on Tout le monde en parle on Saturday night…they asked him to sum up each player in one word. I got most of them, but couldn’t translate some. Definitely understood Subban’s though….very interesting.

    http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/tout_le_monde_en_parle/saison9/

    • habstrinifan says:

      Thanks for the link! Can someone please listen and ‘translate’ as directly as possible… Thank you!
      I tried to listen but too fast for me. Why did the ‘interesting’ adjective come up above?

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        For Subban he answered “Challenge”.

        It’s pretty clear he doesn’t like PK but thankfully PK is the bigger man.


        Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

        • K-hab25 says:

          I look at as him saying it’s a challenge he’s taking on to get PK to reach his full potential, an elite #1 defenseman. I swear people can’t say anything about PK, without everyone flipping out.

      • Ghosts of the Forum says:

        The ones I remember (watched it last night):

        Markov – General
        Plekanec – Intelligent
        Gionta – Leader
        Subban — Challenge

        There were a few others that I understood, but can’t remember now. From the ones I understood, all were complimentary, with the exception of Subban’s.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      The only weird answer is when he burst out laughing at the mention of Tomas Kaberle.

      So you can’t low five because that excludes the other players, but you can burst out laughing at the mention of Kaberle’s name?


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  53. krob1000 says:

    Anyone else get concerned with Elliot Friedman segment re Eller before the game on the weekend. He mentioned that Bergevin said the player he got the most calls on was Lars Eller followed by Rene Bourque. Bergevin apparently responded that he wanted to see Eller in action for himself…..this is very interesting givent he logjam at center. First of all he clarifies that Eller is very desirable around the league and his talent mustbe legit or else eh would not be the most sought after Canadiens commodity.

    What concerns me though is Therrien’s use of Eller….the combination of Therrien’s reluctancy to use Eller (even after a great performance)…makes me wonder if those calls may get too tempting and Eller may be dealt. I think it would be a msitkae as many of you know but the possibility got a lot more believable after Friedmans comemnts and perhaps I missed it but I have seen very little activity on here about it….DD/Eller is a major theme on this site …Friedman says he spoke to BErgevin about Eller and ist semes to have been swept under the rug….myself…concerned… very concerned.
    IF they are going to deal him I sure hope it is late next season after giving him a good opportunity and taking advantage of his very afordable contract given I believe he can step in and fill in adequately in DD’s spot or replace a winger if another goes down to injury….gonna be tough on the pro Eller crowd …

    • Timo says:

      Maybe we’ll get Halak back.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      The thing about Friedmans comments though, is we don’t get alot of context about how or why the comments were made. It was interesting to hear, but am not sure what to make of it. Is it possible MB is indeed looking to trade Eller and has Friedman mention this in order to send out a trial balloon? Who knows, I like Eller alot and right now it is tough to find a spot for him, somehow I get the impression or feeling he will get his chance be it injury or otherwise.

      • krob1000 says:

        As I understood it the context was pretty clear…who other teams were interested in . He said Eller got the most calls followed by Bourque. To me that is pretty hard evidence that they must at least from the outside have been perceived to be available and also that pro scouts found them both desirable. We are now seeing that Bourque has another gear and last year was not his normal self which is nice to see. The Eller situation is alot more concerning…his upside and lack of opportunity are very frustrating. PLeks won;t be around forver and I don’t think Desharnais can play behind Galchenyuk and be the two way guy that will be needed…Eller can be that guy. Eller can kill penalties, play a shutdown role,etc…in the futur if he played ona long with a responsible and relialbe wingers (ie Gionta type) he could be a 60 -70 point guy and be a minute eating matchup guy like PLeks.
        Dd is all offense and Galchenyuk will make that reduntant down the road…or so I see it.

    • Loonie says:

      I think if Therrien really liked Eller we’d be seeing him with Galchenyuk and Gallagher during home games at the very least.

      The kids don’t need protection at home with last change.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        I suspect Eller will end up with them.


        Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • AllHailTheFlower says:

        Hmmm, not so sure about that, and I would point to the Buffalo game as evidence. Toward the end of the game, Ott lined up against Gallagher at centre ice and immediately started giving the kid to the gears, in what I assume was a misguided attempt to goad Gally into a fight. But a whistle from the ref allowed Prust to switch off with Gally, with the end result being a stern warning issued to Ott (and all other teams) that such malfeasance will not be tolerated!

        • Loonie says:

          My point there is that Therrien controls who they see at home. He didn’t hesitate to put the kids on the ice with Ott because he has Prust with them. At home, he could have Eller with Galchenyuk and Gallagher and dictate who they line up against.

      • Timo says:

        Maybe Therrien is “personally developing” Eller… you know, kind like he does with Subban.

    • Phil C says:

      Whether or not you trade Eller or any other centre probably comes down to whether or not you think this team can compete for the Cup. Eller gives this team some much needed depth up front, so unless the return is amazing, I agree that we should keep him and sort out the logjam in the off-season.

      I’m not even sure what this team needs at this point for a Cup run. A big physical defenseman would be nice as a 7th guy, but that could be had for cheaper than Eller at the deadline.

    • habsnyc says:

      Eller has another year at $1.5million and will still be an RFA. He is incredibly affordable given prior season and possible upside. If he learns to win faceoffs or score from the dirty areas, he will be worth three times his current salary. Montreal wants him to play more of a shutdown game, which may be difficult for a finesse guy. He has the skill that if he creates off the forecheck, he can get a lot of unassisted goals. Historically, Montreal had plenty of great forwards who did not get to be scorers during their first five seasons with the team.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

  54. Hobie Hansen says:

    So now that the team is 100% healthy again the logjam at center has become apparent. How do Desharnais and Eller co-exist together?

    Eller doesn’t belong on the 4th line for a couple reasons. One, he deserves more ice time and secondly, that line with White at center was pretty good and they created a lot of energy. There’s a lot less banging and crashing with White removed.

    Something has to give. Either Desharnais or Eller should be traded. I’d rather Desharnais moved and Eller slide in between Cole and Pacioretty but I think the teams willing to trade with Montreal would also prefer Eller over Desharnias.

    Injuries do happen, as Habs Fans are well aware of. But when the team is 100% healthy there isn’t enough room for Eller and Desharnais.

    Not the worst problem in the world to have…

    • krob1000 says:

      I just posted about that….but the cool thing and what I am hoping re Eller is that his ability to play wing or center (despite clearly being a better center)….combined with the fact that both Bourque and Cole can play either wing…gives the team some flexibility in case of an injury. I sure hope they keep Eller and do not fall to temptation with the interest around the league…his contract is very affordable.

    • ed lopaz says:

      I am a big Eller supporter.

      but I have backed Desharnais on this site many times as well. Desharnais deserves all the success he gets because virtually no one believed in him his entire career.

      Desharnais has proven he can produce with the big boys for an entire season. That gives him the decided edge over Eller.

      Eller lost his job to Prust when Therrien created the “Prust4kids” line. (I can not take credit for that, I read it here, and it is an actually organization – prust4kids.ca)

      That’s Eller’s best spot on the team; 3rd line center.

      However, now that Chucky is obviously so talented, I think even he has passed Eller as the 3rd line center as well.

      So Eller will have to be patient.

      He signed for 2 years at 1.35 for this year and next, and then he becomes a RFA – so Eller needs to do the job they ask him to do, wait for his opportunity, and then play the best he can.

      When a team is winning, you just keep your nose clean, keep the lineup out there, and keep pounding out the wins.

      • Loonie says:

        It would be a minor miracle if he’s(Eller) still a Hab for the start of next season……just my opinion.

        • ed lopaz says:

          I agree with that prediction. desharnais emerged only last season, and now Galchenyuk is up there as well.

          I think we could get a ton for Plekanec, personally.

          But I have to concede as you did below that as long as the team keeps winning, Plekanec stays.

          • krob1000 says:

            Plekanec should be the role model and groom Eller IMO….Eller has the skillset to be a bigger version of Plekanec…and guys like that are hard to come by.

    • rhino514 says:

      They can play him with on the wing with the kids for some games.
      they could even flipflop him from that line to DDs line with Max Pac, just maybe for one game, just to see what happens.
      There will be injuries and they will find spots.
      Worry about it after the season.

  55. HabinBurlington says:

    Does anyone know who that kid was that butchered the anthem before the Ottawa game? Do the Habs have contests where people off the street can win the right to do the anthem?

    I really missed Roger Doucet yesterday.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIBw6q2Xkh0

    • Habfan10912 says:

      The young lady did a marvelous job on Saturday’s game. Felt bad for the young man. I’m sure he was nervous as all get out.

      Edit: This is posted on the Hab’s website.
      How can I sign-up to sing the national anthems at Canadiens home games?

      Please send a sample of your best performances on CD or video, your resumé as well as a picture of yourself to the Game Presentation department, at this address: 1260 de la Gauchetière str. west, Montreal, QC, H3B 5E8.

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      • secretdragonfly says:

        Well, that would explain it – I had to mute both the weekend performances and said thank god we’re playing Ottawa so we don’t have to listen to him butcher the American anthem. That could have created a diplomatic crisis for sure. I miss Charles Prevost-Linton.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      LOL, yeah I felt bad. The girl from the day before was OK but not great either ;-).

    • Chuck says:

      Hehe… I was thinking the EXACT same thing during the anthem. I said to my wife, “I feel for the kid… he’s shaking like a leaf. If Beyonce can lip-synch before the inauguration, surely they could do if for an amateur before a hockey game. I miss Roger Doucet.”

      ___________________________________________________
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    • WindsorHab-10 says:

      Felt bad for the kid.

    • AllHailTheFlower says:

      Yeah, the poor kid had a rough go of it for sure. But while some might like to see Roger Doucet resurrected, I have absolutely no problem with Monsieur Charles Prevost-Linton. At least he sings the anthems as they were meant to be, instead of embellishing them with “personal interpretations.”

  56. habs-hampton says:

    I know Ottawa is still upset by the dis-allowed goal yesterday, and rightly so. But I am still is disbelief on the Boarding call on Gorges. They won’t bring in no-touch icing, so now you have to fight for the puck without actually touching the other player?? I’m confused.

    • Chuck says:

      Never mind that their goal came on a powerplay from that ridiculous goaltender interference call against Plekanec.

      It all evens out in the end.

      ___________________________________________________
      Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.

    • WindsorHab-10 says:

      Inconsistency is my biggest problem with the NHL. Disallowed the Ottawa goal but allowed a similar one by Matt Cooke in the Pens/Caps game.

  57. Dr.Rex says:

    I have been one of the biggest Kaberle critics on this board but now that he is in the press box as #7 and probably wont play too often he doesn’t seem so bad. But I also believe a team will be willing to trade for him as the deadline approaches with only one more year left on that crazy contract. Considering at the deadline everyone’s value is inflated big time then maybe we could land a NHL caliber player for him. But right now what type of player would benefit the team most?
    a) A backup goalie
    b) Another 4th line grinder
    c) Another tougher 6/7 d man
    d) Prospect
    e) draft pick

    • Loonie says:

      Definitely a good question. I think that any injury to Gorges, Emelin or Bouillon would really hurt the team’s ability to play the style they want to in the defensive zone.

      So if I were going to trade for anybody it would be the rugged defenseman. Ideally the player would be on a two way contract so they could be sent back to Hamilton when the man they’re replacing is healthy.

      Somebody who could take Bouillon’s spot next year and doesn’t force Bergevin to rush Tinordi into full-time NHL action.

      I’d have my eye on a guy like Keith Aulie or Dylan Olsen.

      Having said that I’d have St. Denis in the lineup before Kaberle or Weber so I’m probably not the right guy to be responding.

    • rhino514 says:

      No team will take Kaberle´s contract.
      If the habs can trade him for free just to get the cap space they should do it. heck, even throw in some long shot prospect.

  58. habsnyc says:

    Many players and members of the organization deserve credit for Montreal’s quick start. Last week, I noticed that in their first six games, their game winning goals came on the powerplay and the losing goal in their losses came on the penalty kill. This week, I noticed that they are leading the NHL in even strength ratio of goals for to goals against. They are playing the best 5 on 5 hockey in the league. Interestingly, the four players with the best plus minus on the team: the two rookies, Bouillon and Prust were not with the team last year. It is early and these stats will normalize, but these results are very encouraging. The team should have a lot of confidence when they face some of stronger teams in the conference such as Pittsburgh, Boston and Tampa.

    Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Good post. Indeed the 5 on 5 play has improved a lot from last season. For me the ability to get the puck and move it out of our own end has been a big reason for this. Remember last season when we were caught chasing the puck around in our own end for long stretches at a time?

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      • habsnyc says:

        I can’t prove it, but I agree that they have shown better composure on the ice. Maybe someone has stats on how much time the puck is in the offensive vs. defensive zone during the game. It is hard to read a lot into the games so far. As someone pointed out, they have had a favorable schedule.

        Whereas last season, there were so many things wrong with the team, this season they have a full roster of players on the same page. I hate projecting too far ahead based on a small sample, but if this team continues to execute, they could continue to move up the standings for a few years. I like this team much more than the 07-08 version. That team won the division for the first time since 92 and lead the league in scoring for the first time since 80, but everyone on that team (but Price) was at their peak. This team could be even better next year.

        Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

  59. sevenman says:

    Not sure if this has been posted already, but 24CH premieres on TSN tonight

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=415212

  60. Sportfan says:

    Its funny how a guy like DD wasn’t scoring or getting points at the beginning and people were worried last year was a fluke etc etc and now look he has 5 points haha

    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

  61. commandant says:

    Washington has been a Capital Disappointment.
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/02/04/a-capital-disappointment/

    Also our new writer (Sportfan on H I/O) is here with a piece on ticket prices. Welcome Nikolai.
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/02/04/outrageous-nhl-ticket-price/

    Go Habs Go!
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  62. habs001 says:

    Habs will have had 8/11 games at home after sat so its good they have taken care of this advantage so far…last year they struggled at home….May be early but Armstrong just does not look athletic and mobile enough to be an effective penalty killer..

  63. Timo says:

    I am always against these guys getting a day off. So they won a couple of games – big whoop.

    Argh… I feel like I am going to be cranky all day today. Maybe I will lay off the keyboard for a bit.

  64. SteverenO says:

    Nice to see Therrien coming to his senses and using more of Diaz on the penalty kill and less of Boullion. I guess he , or one if his assistants, finally did their job and looked at the stats of the two players from from last year.

    This give me a lot of confidence in the coaching staff. The ability to adjust and make changes to the ice time allotment is the biggest impact a coach can have on the teams success. Last year, regardless of how inept the PP, the coaches refused to make the necessary changes.

    Things like playing Hal Gill, and Scott Gomez (the team rarely scored while they were was on the ice) when the team was trailing late in the third period ) was mind boggling.

    It seems, so far, that Therrien is much more aware of the abilities of his players, and way superior when it games to in-game decisions.

    A few statistical tid bits woorth mentioning…….

    Kudos to Emelin who has been on the ice for only two even strength Goals against in 135 minutes of ice time.. All the more notable because his regular defence partner Markov has been on for 4 even strength goals against in 128 minutes of ice time.

    Since we are talking Defence, how about the line of Galchenyuk Gallagher an Prust.

    Gallagher and Prust has been on for only one goal against in 66, and 71 minutes respectively of of even strength play. Galchenyuk has been on for 2 GA in 83 minutes.

    How long will Max Patch keep his shutout string alive? He’s currently at 48 minutes and counting without a single goal allowed while he is on the ice. (even strength).

    regards,

    Steve O.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      I think those years of being paid to watch and have on opinion on the Habs (on RDS) has paid off.

      After watching the Habs last year he knew this teams strengths and weaknesses as well as individual players’ strengths and weaknesses.

  65. SmartDog says:

    5 QUESTIONS:
    1. If it’s a contest between White and Eller for regular 4th line center role, who would you pick?
    2. Everyone seems surprised at our 6 and 2 start. If you consider that we’ve essentially added FIVE strong players – Markov and Gionta (both missing from most games last year) and then Gallagher, Galchenyuk, and Prust – shouldn’t we be in the position we’re in now?
    3. Which of these players would it hurt most to lose to a long term injury: Plekanec, Patches, Desharnais, Prust.
    4. If MB were to be thinking about a player to add for a playoff run, what should he be looking around for?
    5. How do we beat Boston on Wednesday?
    SD

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    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      1. Eller with White moved to wing
      2. Hard to say, but happy with the strong play, even if we had a couple more losses, the progress and style of play is key.
      3. Plekanec
      4. Big Burly Defenceman
      5. Out skate them and outsmart them.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      1) Situational, based on their play and the opponent.
      2) Agreed, if I went best-case scenario I thought this team would be much better than last season, plus factor in Carey Price who’s taken it up another notch. I was just pessimistic, while thinking I was being realistic.
      3) Tomas Plekanec. Easy. He’s the #1 centre.
      4) Broken record: Shane O’Brien.
      5) Same as always, skate and exploit the cement-footed Charas and McQuaigs, be mentally tough and disciplined, make them pay on the powerplay.

    • Sportfan says:

      1. Eller for the center
      2. Of course we should be playing this well, its a new team with excitement, speed and hardworking guys who want to win
      3. I think losing plek or Prust would really hurt the team
      4. Maybe another D-man, but since its early its a wait and see
      5. close game 3-2 win for us, a lot of hits, chriping etc. They just need to focus on the game and ignore the Bruins trying to pull their usual BS
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    • commandant says:

      1) Eller, with White moving to wing and rotating with Armstrong.

      2) 6-2 is still a 750 winning percentage… even with players added, no one could have predicted that. Also I’d say six strong players, as Bouillion may not be loved, but he’s playing his role well.

      3) Plekanec does so much for the team at both ends of the ice.

      4) As well as Bouillion’s played, a big and physical defenceman to take his spot. However, this wouldn’t be an immediate thing, I’d wait to see if injuries hit first. I might be content to stand pat on this team if no injuries.

      5) Score more goals than they do.

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    • lavie says:

      1. Eller
      2. They are part of the difference.
      3. Plekanec
      4. Hal Gill type who can skate and handle puck well.
      5. Speed, skill, fore-checking, plus Emelin and Subban.

    • Rugger says:

      1. Toughest question you’ve ever asked – both have + and – but for 4th line I would have to go with White. Eller has more value in higher lines when the injuries come.
      2. Yes
      3. Plek
      4. depends upon injuries between now and then
      5. Play Habs hockey and pp them to death (I do not beleive the refs are really in Jacobs pocket)

    • Habfan10912 says:

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    • Cal says:

      1. Depends. If coach expects lots of fighting and cheap play: White. If it is the opposite: Eller.
      2. No- if HIO regulars remember back two weeks, the Habs were DOOOMED!
      3. Pleks. He’s still the best of that bunch.
      4. Emelin II- :)
      5. Lots of speed and capitalizing on all the penalties. Containing Bergeron, Lucic, Horton and Marchand. Perhaps, even a Chara decapitation.

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    • Marc10 says:

      5 ANSWERS:
      1. If it’s a contest … Eller on skill. But he shouldn’t be on the 4th line.
      2. Yes. Pricey deserves it.
      3. Pleky
      4. A big, bad D
      5. By scoring more goals than they do. LOL

    • Luke says:

      1. White or Eller for regular 4th line center role?

      White as a 4th liner. Hopefully a better role is found for Eller that suits his skillset better.

      2. Everyone seems surprised at our 6 and 2 start.

      They were woeful last season. This start is a surprise. contributions of BG & AG were unexpected.

      3. Which of these players … Plekanec, Patches, Desharnais, Prust.

      Plekanec. His game is much more complete than the others, and would be harder to replace if he was injuered.

      4. What should he be looking around for?

      Someone who can absolutely crush in the faceoff circle.

      5. How do we beat Boston on Wednesday?

      Headshots!

    • Habfan10912 says:

      1. Eller
      2. I thought and still think we will be in the hunt for a 7,8,9,10 finish. Early returns look like it will be closer to the 6.
      3. Patches
      4. A big stay at home Dman.
      5. Have a good night on special teams.

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    • habsnyc says:

      Eller
      Well, they are ahead of the NYR and Flyers who have great teams on paper, so I have to give credit to the players and coaches for making the team gel so quickly.
      I don’t want to wish injury on anyone.
      MB should not add anyone, unless LL forces his way onto the roster.
      Beat Boston with a combination of great goaltending, physical play and a couple lucky goals on crazy bounces to deflate the Bruins.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      1. Eller on the 4th line is a luxury, so Eller (AINEC).
      2. Still surprised
      3. Pleks. Again, not close.
      4. 4th line face-off specialist who’s an upgrade over Nokie. Eller can play on the wing with the kids. Almost picked depth on D, but Therrien loves his Boullion.
      5. PP success

    • K-hab25 says:

      1- Neither, drop Prust down and play Eller on the kid line as a winger.

      2- Yup, we were not as bad a team as we played like last year and with the addition of an entire line, plus maturation of Diaz and Emelin, we definitely should be a play-off team again.

      3- Pacioretty, look how much better that top line is with him playing. That said, Plekanec is a close second, don’t think Eller is ready enough to play that role yet.

      4- A big stay at home defenseman, as good as Cube has looked, I’d prefer a big stay at home defenseman, who can throw’em when needed.

      5- We just gotta play our speed game and not try to out physical, the more physical team.

    • HabsPEI31 says:

      1) White. As much as I like Eller, he’s not suited for 4th line duty;
      2) It’s more a surprise at how quickly the players have taken to MT’s system. I always thought there was potential in the team. It was just in massive disarray last year;
      3) Pleks, hands down;
      4) Right now – hard to tell. Team is playing well, and I’ve never been big on selling picks or prospects for that one guy who is essentially a playoff rental. Give me a Neidermeyer or Arnott of younger days, then I’d consider it.
      5) Play the way we’ve been playing, minus some of the penalties we’ve taken.
      “Only a goalie can appreciate what a goalie goes through.” – Jacques Plante

  66. bleedhabs81 says:

    Anyone watch the CBC feed on Saturday?

    I love Bob Coles voice and his excitement, but he has lost it.

    “Subban carries the puck up”…. you mean #73, the really little white guy???

    Good on Cole for not seeing the skin colour of a man.

    • Cal says:

      He should be retired for about 10 years now.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I was in a bar on Saturday and so the sound wasn’t clear. I watched the start of Sunday at home and was so put off by Cole’s blunders and the grunts of Gary Galley that I chose to go back to said bar where I knew I wouldn’t have to hear the detailed mistakes.

      He had his day, but he still has his Leaf Bias which results in anti-Montreal. For that I can forgive, but mixing up Boullion with Diaz, with his confusion as to what interference now is…. it was just too much.

    • Strummer says:

      I’m not here to defend Cole – he’s past it and it’s too easy to dump on him at this point.

      How do you tell what colour a helemeted hockey player is if his face is not visible?

      If he mixes up the names what difference does it make what colour player the names belong to?

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      • HabinBurlington says:

        It’s called numbers on the jerseys, he used to be able to read them.

        • Strummer says:

          I agree he can’t read numbers or remember names fast enough to keep up with the play. Quite often he’ll not even identify a player.

          My problem is with the ” the really little white guy???” remark.
          what’s skin colour got to do with it?
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          • HabinBurlington says:

            IMO Cole has issues with age and something he likes to drink. That CBC can’t recognize it, is of no surprise however.

          • bleedhabs81 says:

            You had a problem with that? Really? Did you think I was being racist?

            Man, you are way to uptight. I just thought it was a funny contrast, you know, since their height and their complexions are completely different.

            You may not be able too, but I can spot PK pretty easily because he is the only black man on the team (yes, Boullion is half Hatian, I know). This is not me being racist. Just me being observant. Maybe my little TV has a sharper contrast ratio then yours, sharper blacks (is that racist too? Damn TV manufacturers!!!)… i dunno.

            I thought it was funny. I laughed. You can scowl and go as PC as you want.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I don’t think it’s being used in a racist way, just that the skin colour would be another way to identify/differentiate a player, aside from jersey number, skating style, position, linemate, etc. Which all would come into play with another announcer who wasn’t so obviously past his prime, or ignorant of the makeup of the teams for which he’s calling games.

        • bleedhabs81 says:

          Thank you UCE. That was exactly what I meant.

          He carried the puck from our blue line to their blue line.

          Maybe from his vantage point, Cole couldn’t see his face… he must be sitting behind Carey Price.

    • turnonthejets says:

      Ugh…he’s so so bad. The game has passed him by long ago. It’s time to take him off the air.

      • bleedhabs81 says:

        I still like Bob Cole… you just can trust any of the facts or explanations after the whistles.

        Like when he had a hard time figuring out the Goal was waved off. I caught that immediately.

    • sprague cleghorn says:

      The other classic moment came when he threw to commercial by saying… “The Canadiens hang onto this big lead… (LONG, LONG PAUSE) Don’t they?”

    • Luke says:

      I have typically harped on Bob for years about getting names wrong & missing the obvious reasons for whistles, but it was never really *THAT* bad. I thought this weekend was kind of sad in a way. I felt like he was out there, alone, for the world to see he just doesn’t have it anymore… Yah. Not sure how to describe it… I felt sad for Bob.

  67. Sportfan says:

    I don’t know whats going on with the refs this season, I could be wrong but I feel they haven’t been calling the best of games lately and not just in Montreal, or Canada its even been in the States. Has the League noticed this or are the refs just that rusty that they are giving them time to adjust? Or is it because of the addition of new rules again they are just having such a hard time making a call?

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  68. 24 Cups says:

    It appears that the debate over which of the top five draft picks will come Montreal’s way this summer may be a moot point. The team is now officially in the hunt for a playoff spot.

    Penalty calls and fighting in general are up all around the league. It now appears that injuries and special teams may decide the fate of many teams. BTW, the Habs dodged a major bullet yesterday when the ref disallowed an obvious Ottawa goal. I find it interesting that in a two ref format, there appear to be many calls made by an official who is out of position to the play.

    I just noticed that Montreal plays 14 games in 26 nights during the month of February. Looking at the schedule, I wonder if the 7th and 18th/19th might be two dates to give Budaj a few games to spell off Price. Some people questioned MT’s rotation this week but it’s hard to argue with the end result. I also expect Budaj to bounce back. After all, the guy hasn’t played in 10 months.

    Looks like I’m going to have to eat some crow on the Bouillon signing. I figured it was just a trip down nostalgia lane. A cautionary note to MB. If you are going to re-sign Bouillon, make sure it is for only one year. It will be a +35 contract plus the fact Tinordi should be able to step into the role by the 2014-15 season.

    The search for a 4th line centre continues. Eller and White are a study in contrasts in terms of playing styles. It seems a waste to utilize Eller in this role while White still is a work in progress. One of these guys is going to have to play wing if they are both going to be part of the team moving forward. Of course they are great insurance once the injuries come our way. Same goes for Kaberle.

    It’s way too early to be looking ahead to next season but I will anyway. The team you see right now is basically the team you will see next year. Leblanc may step into Armstrong’s role and spare parts like Budaj and Weber may move on. The only contract of consequence that will have to be negotiated would be DD’s. Cap space should not be an issue if the team buys out Kaberle. The only auditions will be for bench warming positions.

    • Loonie says:

      There’s a lot of season left Steve. I wouldn’t necessarily be taking it to the bank that everyone of importance will be back.

    • bleedhabs81 says:

      Can they buy out Kaberle? I thought the Gomez buyout counted for this upcoming buyout amnesty period.

      Don’t they have to wait until next summer??

      • Strummer says:

        They are allowed 2 for the amnesty .
        Buyouts normally happen at the end of the season.
        They can Buyout Kaberle or whoever they want at that time.

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  69. Un Canadien errant says:

    Regarding the “borderline” penalties that “interrupt the flow of the game”, put me down as not caring one bit. We complain when the refs put away the whistles in the third period, against the Bruins, during the playoffs, …. Call the penalties, we’ll benefit and the Bruins or other pugnacious and bellicose teams with gritty tough defencemen will suffer, and we’ll benefit. The teams and players will adjust in a few more games and we’ll benefit from less hooking and slashing. We’re already seeing it with players hesitating now to ‘finish their checks’ (obstruct their opponent) when the puck carrier has chipped the puck past them and is attempting to skate around/past them.

    As for the inconsistent calls, so much of that problem would be alleviated with video refs. Take a ref off the ice, put him in a video room with a couple of assistants, allow him to stop the play when necessary, and for the on-ice official to consult with him, determine that some penalties are ‘personal fouls’ as in football and carry an automatic two-minutes but some are judgment calls and don’t get reviewed, yet are reviewable when goals are scored and when coaches challenge. Easy. Done.

    It won’t be perfect, but now 90% more of the questionable calls will be right, and the game will be 95% faster and more enjoyable.

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    • ed lopaz says:

      I believe the ref’s union would be opposed to this. I happen to agree with your solution.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        This would have to be negotiated with the Union, but the benefits would be easy to sell to them. Once a ref gets long in the tooth, he can transition to the video booth and use his knowledge for another decade or so. Everybody wins.

  70. Loonie says:

    It certainly gives me a chuckle that the loss from yesterday is being blamed on the officials from the Senators side.

    Weak goaltender interference call? Yeah, it sure was.

    It wasn’t much weaker than the call on Plekanec for interfering with Anderson. The call which of course lead to Ottawa’s first goal.

    Also something to note is that Price was interfered with previously on the play without a call. And that play should have drawn one.

    • secretdragonfly says:

      Not to mention an instance of too many men on the ice and a blatant boarding on Bouillon that weren’t called and that Ottawa has conveniently forgotten about. If you’re going to b*tch about bad calls, at least be consistent.

  71. Lafleurguy says:

    Abridged version of a sagacious post from the last thread:
    MB should trade for a physical defenseman who can fight.

    • ed lopaz says:

      a physical defenceman who can fight would take Bouillon right out of the lineup.

      Bergevin and Therrien decided that Bouillon is sufficiently physical to play that role on the back end.

      He also can and will fight – very well, by the way.

      He also has a very reasonable Cap hit, and is extremely loyal to the new coach who was his old coach 18 years ago in the QMJHL.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Abridged version of answer to query from the last thread:
      Shane O’Brien from Colorado.

  72. ed lopaz says:

    the goalie interference call on Ottawa that disallowed their 2nd goal was a phantom call, was it not?

    I could see no contact whatsoever on the play.

    Furthermore, the ref called the Ottawa player for a penalty which used to be the ref’s discretion in these cases.

    This was a game changing call that disallowed a goal.

    If this would have been called against the Habs, under the same circumstances, we would be freaking out around here.

    If the refs have been told by the league to call goalie interference under these circumstances then the rule no longer makes sense.

    If the ref blew the call according to the rules then the ref should be seriously reprimanded.

    Am I missing something here?

    • Lafleurguy says:

      We didn’t outplay Ottawa. Price was outstanding. Ottawa fans must still be screaming.

    • Loonie says:

      Terrible call.

      It was also terrible to not call one previously on the play when interference actually happened.

      It was also terrible that Plekanec was called for interference on the dive of the season by Anderson.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I think the ref kind of wanted to blow the whistle on that contact a few seconds earlier, but didn’t have the nerve, and then did on the later contact by the same player, thinking that’s two in a row. Watching it on video, he probably now wishes he’d blown the play dead on the original bump which merited a call.

        Generally, once the players get used to the new interpretation, and stop “crashing the net” to “score goals in the dirty areas”, this will become a less controversial topic, and we’ll enjoy a better show.

    • Cal says:

      You didn’t miss a thing. That should not have been called. Yet, the refs blew the Pleks call in the first minute, so it is a case of tit for tat.
      The reffing this season has been nothing short of incompetent with gusts of ineptitude.

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    • tophab says:

      they made the same call on us in the first 24 seconds it all worked out even.

  73. BJ says:

    I guess first….I mean second.

  74. Un Canadien errant says:

    The only fly in the ointment with Max’s quick return to active duty is that I’d dropped him from my fantasy hockey team, thinking I’d pick him back up in a couple of weeks when he got closer to being ready to go. Someone snatched him back up when he had his first skate, and even then I thought the guy had jumped the gun. Amazing, and disappointing.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      You will eventually learn to never doubt Wolverine again UCe. :)

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I know. I blew it. I was seriously fooled, thinking he’d need the full period to recover, and even then a couple weeks after that to get back up to game speed. Also, I didn’t know they could do appendectomies with a laparoscopy nowadays, I thought they still chainsawed you open to get it out.

        I blame the person who made the original prognosis of four to five weeks recovery. Seriously bad intel.

  75. Phil C says:

    With Fistric there, they seem to no longer need him.

  76. Propwash says:

    Bulldogs could use the help though.

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  77. B says:

    I believe that he was injured before the CBA settled. Now that he is ready to return, he has to be moved from a temp AHL contract to a 2 way NHL deal which means he must clear waivers before being assigned to Hamilton again (as had to be done with Blunden and St.Denis I believe it was earlier). Something like that.

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  78. commandant says:

    Its not re-entry waivers.

    He could not be placed on waivers while injured.

    Now he is not injured

    He still must clear waivers to join the bulldogs. (send down waivers).

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  79. 24 Cups says:

    The Habs had to use cap space for him while he was hurt. Now they clear out space by having him go back to the AHL or he might get claimed which is fine by me. This guy was never going to make the Habs, especially seeing the glut of players and prospects we now have on RW.

  80. K-hab25 says:

    I remember watching him with Pacioretty at Michigan, kid looked good then. He certainly has hit a wall in his development.

  81. Bun E. Laroque says:

    Thornton bears no physical resemblance to Wolverine, unlike Max.

  82. The Jackal says:

    Stupid Bruins fans have no idea what they are talking about.

  83. jedimyrmidon says:

    A perversion of the true Wolverine, Max Pacioretty! Leave it up to the Bruins to corrupt something.

  84. jmsheehy19 says:

    Very cool being able to watch them through the PS3. Didn’t know about that.

  85. Strummer says:

    was it the $8.25 million Staal or the $4 million Staal

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  86. MikeHabs says:

    i like when ex-habs do well, i just hate it when its players that we probably shouldn’t of got rid of.

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  87. B says:

    Souray with the winner.

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  88. MikeHabs says:

    Lol he may know what it is like to play in the league and be in the dressing room but man, he was out of line and Stubbsy is with the guys all the time where he takes in info on and off the record.

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  89. nunacanadien says:

    The problem was Montreal was chocked full of tiny tykes, so how could a small midget like Sakku fare well when the rest of the team is being pummeled to the ice and no one protecting the poor man from bullies. At least now we have some real good quality almost tough guys to stand up for the team. It used to be sad to watch Sakku with a lot of heart and speed and skill, being pushed aside so easily without being defended. At least every now and then Gionta manages to get a shot in now at least with Therrien’s flying 4 formation….versus the lack of direction under Carbo and his constant line changes. You can only change the tiny tykes of the past so often.

  90. habs12 says:

    peckham for weber


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