Welcome, Summiteers!

The Canadiens would have been out to greet you personally, but they’re in Buffalo.

AK46 will try to spark G&G

• Luc Gélinas on Lars Eller’s big chance

Max Pacioretty thinks he’s a Top Six forward. It doesn’t play well in the room, and Arpon Basu thinks Max-Pac made a big mistake

• Yvon Pedneault on the G&G drought

• Shock waves from Patrick Roy dissing Guy Boucher

Jaro shuts out the Sharks and Garon gets another one

And if you’re downtown late this afternoon, our friend Michael Farber of Sports Illustrated and Yvan Cournoyer of the Hall of Fame will be at Indigo book store, Ste. Catherine and McGill College, at 5 p.m., signing copies of The Hockey Book.

272 Comments

  1. adam76 says:

    This trade will be debated for the next five years.  Might want to get use to it.

  2. mike g says:

    Sooooooo….

    Summit tonight, eh?

    Well, I’ll have you all know that if I’m able to make it, it will be later on in the night. Might even be after the game.

    Don’t you guys dare leave early. If Mike G’s coming to Hurley’s, it ain’t to find himself all alone having been left out to dry. He will be coming there to get crunk and talk some smack with HIO people.

    So see you there, with my Richards jersey!

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  3. Chuck says:

    I say that we should start a “We want Rhino” chant at the game tomorrow night.

     

    Centre Hice: Major blackout hits Montreal

  4. fbkj says:

    unfortunately i cant make it bro… hmmmmmm pretzel

  5. Chuck says:

    Our current goalie has all of those assets, too! (except for that being able to cross the red line bit.)

    Centre Hice: Major blackout hits Montreal

  6. mike g says:

    Hey dude…

    You gonna be at the summit tonight?

    It would be an honour to see who you are, and maybe throw a peanut and/or pretzel at the back of your head…

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  7. fbkj says:

    nah same reason im not going to the game, cant make the summit, too much goin on the next two weeks *sigh*

    going to the tuesday game vs. canucks tho

  8. Hobie Hansen says:

    Ya its too bad things don’t seem to be panning out for O’Byrne. I’m not sure what his contractual status is, don’t feel like looking it up, but maybe he’ll continue to work hard and when we rid ourselves of the troublesome contracts of Hamerlik and especially Spacek, there will be a spot for him as our 5th or 6th defenseman.

  9. punkster says:

    You joining us at Hurley’s after?

  10. HabFarmer says:

    You’re kidding right?  Schultz is not a goon – he’s got the toughness and the edge that the Habs need.  He’s got plenty of upside.  I guess we wouldn’t want that either.

    As for Eller, just give him some time already…… .

     

    A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?

  11. smiler2729 says:

    Yeah whatever. This is just another attempt to elevate Halak to his rightful godliness and shove more knives in Price’s back.

    Knickers? I don’t care about Halak ANYMORE – HE’S GONE – HE WANTED OUT – HE GOT HIS WISH.

  12. Mattyleg says:

    Yeah, it’s dumb. Especially how people only even focus on them when they’re doing well. Fatendresse came to camp overweight and out of shape, and he’s been injured for most of the beginning of the season as a result. Anyone looking at that?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  13. Mattyleg says:

    I wanna see O’Byrne play! Saw him with his playoff beard on a Bell ad last night and it made me nostalgic.

    He worked hard in the off-season, and it’s a shame that he has to be riding the pine.

    I suppose someone has to, but it’d be nice to see him out there, especially now that he has something to really prove.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  14. smiler2729 says:

    He won’t be Jean Beliveau or Guy Lafleur so moronic Hab fans will boo him outta town where he will turn into Mats Sundin with heart on some other team then moronic Hab fans will bitch and whine about how “we” let him go.

    Haven’t you noticed Matt D’Agostini is suddenly a 50 goal scorer and Guillaume Latendresse is Clark Gillies now not mention St. Jaro de Halak, the greatest goalie since Terry Sawchuk.

  15. fbkj says:

    well i have my season tix but a client is going to this game, connection? not so much for other seats…

  16. HabsoluteFan says:

    Halak fell down while taking part in the team’s hardest shot at their skills competition last year.  He has no shot, lacks skating speed because of the bigger equipement he wears and can’t pass the red line at centre ice without getting a penalty.

    Eller has all those assets.  Our current goalie is doing great.  So we won that trade hands down. 

  17. punkster says:

    My one ticket is in section 308, row cc.

    Why, you got a connection?

  18. fbkj says:

    scared? oh noes not t3h scared 🙁

  19. nick says:

    MTL ‘s problem right now isn’t goaltending, its the inability to put the puck in the net.

  20. Natrous says:

    HALAK WAS AN UNSIGNED RFA AT THE TIME, AND NO ONE KNEW WHAT HE WOULD DEMAND FOR A CONTRACT AFTER THAT PLAYOFF RUN WITH THE HABS.

    Anyone with a drop of hockey knowledge knows that RFAs can be less than easy to sign if they think they deserve more than what they’re being offered. See Kessel, Phil.

  21. sillywalk says:

    Who’s saying anything bad about Price? The discussion is that we got screwed for trading our better (at the time) goaltender, because the grapevine said he would never reach the other guy’s potential. And the goalie whom everyone said was a flash in the pan is still flashing away every time he plays. This does not take anything away from Price this year, so why get your knickers in a twist every time Halak’s name gets mentioned? Thou dost overreactieth too much.

  22. matraque says:

    I’m scared… wonder what will happen with Eller…

    ——

    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  23. fbkj says:

    out of curiosity, where are the HIO seats?

  24. nick says:

    annnd Ian Schultz isn’t even in the NHL yet.

    You really can’t comment on this trade until they both make it to the NHL and hit their groove.

  25. smiler2729 says:

    Garon… 2nd shutout, 4-0-0

    Bonk, Huet… retired and Swiss cheese.

     

    Redundant and pointless.

  26. Exit716 says:

    I think perhaps Logan Couture would have fit the bill for Montreal, had San Jose been in play. First round pick, on an entry level deal….

  27. smiler2729 says:

    No SHITE. I’ve grown to despise Halak now, kinda like dating Pamela Anderson and always hearing about Tommy Lee…

  28. LA Loyalist says:

    Yeah, Halak we couldn’t have got much, Garon sucks, has Price ever had 2 shut outs in a row (he may yet, I’m just saying)

    Poster is right: want Halak? You have to take BoatAnchor(age)nOmez(tm) or no deal. Can you imagine what we could do with that cap space?

    It’s one thing to take a chance on Price over Halak, looks like it’s going to work out, it’s another to not get more for Halak.

    GMs LOVE to trade for potential – he keeps them from being accountable right now and defers judgement day.

    The good news is that in Montreal judgement day comes sooner than in Toronto – it’s a calendar/time zone thing.

    Have a great summit. Wear your Garon Habs jersey!

     

  29. punkster says:

    To all attending the Summit:

    Please bear in mind that HI/O related activities are not to be considered fun. They are strictly for bitching, whining and complaining about our favourite team.

     

    OK, seriously now, does anyone have an extra ticket for the game Saturday, preferably in the HI/O sections? If you do pleasde contact me through the site.

     

  30. smiler2729 says:

    When it comes to Halak, it isn’t discussion or debate, just whining and name calling. LET’S MOVE ON.

  31. fuhgawz says:

    good for Jaro happy for him he has a hell of a team infront of him… but reading about how he is doing is as relevant as how Saku, Higgy, Kovy ect. are doing he is not with the team anymore so how about we stop writing or posting stats/articles about him Habsinsideout Staff. Focus on the team your SUPPOSED to be covering.

    Thanks

  32. Habsrule1 says:

    I wanna play!

    Coke or Pepsi?

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  33. smiler2729 says:

    A 24 team league would be so much better, remember the ’80s? Now THAT was entertaining hockey. My choices for contraction would be the obvious Phoenix, Atlanta, Nashville, Florida but Carolina and Anaheim need to go too.

    Yes, Anaheim, one team in Los Angeles is enough and the Ducks basically are New Jersey West, a small pocket of faithful fans and nothing but a small local appeal.

    Then I’d move the Devils and Lightning to Winnipeg and Quebec City.

    Nice dream. It’ll never happen…

  34. matraque says:

    He was not out of line… He wants to get better… Hamilton will make him better.

    ——

    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  35. matraque says:

    Halak… 3rd shutout.

    Eller… 1pt and -3

    ——

    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  36. punkster says:

    Margarine or butter?

  37. punkster says:

    However people will use it as “proof positive” that JM doesn’t know how to coach young players. So in that regard the story is bang on and pretty well par for the course of what goes on in this city when it comes to the Habs. (And yes, Basu’s overly sensationalized interpretation “sapped of all his confidence” and left a “shell of player” is in keeping with that tradition…way to crank up the retoric Basu)

  38. Mattyleg says:

    Really looking forward to tonight! Should be a good ‘un at the Hurl.

    Kinda tired of the trolls coming out whenever H-l-k does well. Ignore them, they’ll go away when they realize that nobody cares what they think.

    I love the idea of contracting the league, as in, getting rid of some franchises altogether. Good plan!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  39. Habsrule1 says:

    You have no idea what they could have gotten. All I’m saying is that I kinda doubt the Habs didn’t want more, but they took what they felt was the best offer. Also, remember that what they got was cap-friendly with huge potential for the future.

    you have to look at everything, not just what you think should have happened.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  40. Everlasting1 says:

    lmao

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

     Don’t pollute the water.

  41. Mark C says:

    Here’s a good read on the recent history of goalie trades.

    http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2010/11/1/1779550/goaltender-trade-value

  42. adam76 says:

    Ya – stop bring up hockey discusions / debates.  Lets just all agree that Youpee is the best mascot in the history of sports.

  43. lenny says:

    Im just saying that Halaks’ value was much higher then what we got in return. Eller will be good, but a staight up trade seems very lopsided…at the very least we should have gotten a pick and be able to lump Halak with an overpaid player (Spacek, Hammer, Gomez) to shed some salary.

  44. Mark C says:

    He’s wrong, Martin gave Max-Pac more ice time than Carbo did. This is the NHL, if you coach a competitive team you must limit rookie mistakes, especial ones that are often repeated. Montreal has made the last two playoffs by a combined point and tie breaker. Teams in this situation cannot afford to play players like O’Byrne, who makes the same mistakes every other game. I don’t like MAB, but he had 12 goals and 30 more points than O’Byrne did last year, he can make mistakes because he adds offensive.

  45. Chuck says:

    Have fun in Montreal tonight, everyone! I’m looking forward to being at the game in Buffalo, then hitting the road early to meet up with you tomorrow!

    Safe travels, and Go Habs Go!

    Centre Hice: Major blackout hits Montreal

  46. Exit716 says:

    It’s like Gauthier decided to trade Halak and then asked Gainey for a contact, Gainey gave him Doug Armstrong’s number and that was that. Sort of like hawking your wedding ring at the pawn shop because you’re in a rush and don’t have any options.

  47. Matthew says:

    Basu refers to the “city’s No.1 English sports radio station” in reference to Pacioretty’s comments. Talk about sensationalizing the situation… The Team 990 is the only English sports station and has ratings that are almost always last or 2nd to last in the anglo market.

    By his own admission Pacioretty felt his confidence was “down a bit and got even worse” last season and is happy to be gaining it back now. Basu’s interpretation has Max basically saying that he was “sapped of all his confidence” and left a “shell of player”.

    This whole thing is being totally blown out of proportion and it’s because of this kind of sensationalistic nonsensical reporting. It really is no wonder that a lot of free agents don’t want to play here.

    That being said, Go Habs Go! Should be a four point weekend

  48. Castor says:

    I know he’s trying AK tonight but remember how great Gio, Gomez and Cammy were last year? Everyone was saying we only had that one line because AK wasn’t producing. Now that he is do you guys think JM should try

    Cammy-Gomer-Gio

    AK-Pleky-Eller/Pouliot?

    what do you guys think?

  49. Castor says:

    SERIOUSLY MAN. So sick of this.

  50. notbigbird says:

    Voldemort?

  51. smiler2729 says:

    Chlamydia or gonorrhea?

  52. adam76 says:

    I agree 100%.  To get an AHLer and a goon was foolish.  We could have gotten more.

     

  53. smiler2729 says:

    Beatles or Stones?

    Apples or oranges?

    Big Mac or Whopper?

    Will people QUIT bringing this CRAP up??? What the hell has Price done this year to STILL warrant this?? Halak wanted a trade (twice he asked), the salary cap situation was tight AND VOILA – he’s in St. Louis, Price didn’t trade him.

    I prefer the Stones by the way.

  54. avatar_58 says:

    Frankly I agree with him though. Martin always does this – he benches the young guns for mistakes yet baffles us all by allow others – MAB comes to mind – to make as many as they like and see top minutes.

    Obyrne flips it over the glass? NO MORE ICE TIME. MAB gives it away and leads to a goal? Oh here’s a shift right after. Oops another goal, quick put him out again!

  55. lenny says:

    Dagostini or Gomez

  56. habsguy says:

    Oh ya, I’m sure PG was offered Backes and Oshie but said no,  we don’t want that much…just give us Eller and we’ll be happy!!!!…

  57. lenny says:

    Halak or Price?

  58. smiler2729 says:

    He-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named – CLASSIC!! LOL!!!

  59. smiler2729 says:

    Why all the whining about what the Habs got in return for St.Jaro? If they had gotten Backes, Perron Boyes or Oshie, the whine would still be there. The fact that Halak wanted to be traded hasn’t sunk into any of the whiners, has it? Also, there’s also the little matter of the salary cap… but it’s more fun to whine and cry about Gauthier and Halak.

    TSN just reported Eller being on the G&G line…

  60. Harani says:

    Here is a great article by Arpon Basu outlining the points why what Max Pacioretty did was out of line.

    “It must be love!”

  61. dh says:

    I wonder where everyone gets this information that we got the most for Halak that we could? 

    Price is doing great and, again this year, we don’t seem to be having problems in nets but I think that they could have reached a better deal for one of the goalies if they’d have waited a bit.

  62. Habfan29 says:

    agree 100%

  63. sillywalk says:

    And Price was proven? He hasn’t yet had a total of a very good season, but apparently Halak would have to have 10 before anyone would give him the benefit of the doubt concerning his ability. He may yet flop, but could he really flop harder than Price did for 2 years running?

  64. Mark C says:

    Or it’s a sign of a young player having the self-realization that he left school too early, and got off the proper development tract due to Montreal’s needs. I think a lot of people are reading way too much into Max-Pac’s comments, let’s apply Occam’s razor – maybe Max-Pac feels he needs the development of a full year in the AHL to be able to realize his full potential as an NHL player. Let’s not forget, he turns 22 later this month.   

  65. avatar_58 says:

    Thomas is also near perfect and I’ll be DAMNED if I admit the guy’s a good goalie. He’s just having a good start.

  66. Habsrule1 says:

    A few have seemed a bit too excited about Halak’s start. Anyone notice that Garon has to so’s in a row?

    I think it would have been nice to get more, but the fact is, Halak wasn’t proven yet. after a total of 1 very good season, we could not get a lot more than we did for him. I’m pretty sure Gauthier didn’t take the first offer on the table, as many of you seem to think he did.

    As far as G&G, i like the idea of putting AK46 with them. the way he’s been playing may really spark them….and talk about an opportunity for Eller! I really hope he runs with it!

    2for2 this weekend…WE CAN DO EET!

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  67. Maksimir says:

    Just great – two former Habs goalies get shut outs last night… Garon and He-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named

  68. The Cat says:

    I dont see it as a young player letting his emotions get the best of him, I see it as a player who sees that by looking at the contracts in place in the top 6 that hes not going to get a chance to earn a spot, and that instead of being called up theyre putting Eller (a guy with less NHL experience), so hence he wants to be traded.

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  69. Psycho29 says:

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    The victim apparently drowned due to excessive beer consumption. He was wearing black fishnet stockings, a red garter belt, high heeled red shoes and a Leafs hockey jersey. 

      
    The police removed the Leafs hockey jersey— to spare his family any unnecessary embarrassment.

    See you guys at the summit on Saturday!

     

  70. CP31 says:

    I just picked the Habs over the Sabres tonight in my elimination pool. It’ll be that much more interesting when I’m watching them LIVE tonight from the HSBC, especially with the shake up in the lines.

    The Habs have lost the last 2 times I’ve been there, so I’m hoping tonight is the night the pull off a win!!

    FEARLESS PREDICTION: Habs win 4-2; GIO gets 2 tonight, Cammy gets 1 and CP has a good road game!

    GO HABS GO!!!

     

    FROM SAKU TO GIO, SAME STATURE AND JUST AS MUCH HEART!! GREAT DECISION!!

  71. avatar_58 says:

    I started a new season and those two are my best scorers 😮

  72. avatar_58 says:

    All this fuss over Roy saying he doesn’t like trap-like hockey. What’s the problem? I don’t like it either – do you enjoy Buffalo and New Jersey games? I sure as hell don’t.

    Boucher isn’t some evil super villain we can’t blast. The man has yet to win anything worthwhile and until he does he’s fair game.

  73. Hobie Hansen says:

    A tough decision had to be made and I don’t mind Gauthier deciding to keep the younger Price over Halak. However, receiving Eller in return instead of a Backes, Perron, Boyes or Oshie seems like a ripoff to me? Isn’t a number one goaltender worth a proven front-line player? I understand we also received Schultz, who might turn out to be a solid third line contributor with some leadership quality, but Gauthier definitely fell short.

    I am happy to see Martin is following my advice tonight and grouping the six players together (including Eller and Kostitsyn) that I believe should have made up the top two lines to start the season. We’ll see what Eller can do playing with Plekanec and Cammalleri! The last thing the coach has to do is put that third line of MoenHalpernLapierre together and I’ll be a happy camper. I believe a 3rd line that like that could be among the best in the league and as well score a number of goals. Throw some 4th line out there for a couple minutes a period with Boyd, Pouliot, Darche or Pyatt on it to rest the other lines and all will be good.

     

    Oh and a quick comment on Pacioretty, even though I’ve been keeping my fingers crossed and hoping he’d click as a top six power forward, you have to accept Martin’s judgment. I doubt the Canadiens will read too much into his comments and let it affect his progress as a Hab. I’m sure they’ll look at the situation as a young player letting his emotions get the best of him.  

  74. Johnny_D says:

    Don’t worry, my NHL2011 G&G were also in a slump, they got out of it 😉

  75. Danno says:

    All the best and safe travel to all the Summiteers!

    I’m sure you will enjoy a memorable weekend. Cheers!

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”


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