Way to go Als!

Now back to hockey.

• Dave Stubbs feature on the great Vladislav Tretiak

• Red Fisher on the Carey Price – Ryan Miller goaltending duel

• Pierre Ladouceur: Is Price the NHL’s best?

• Pierre Durocher looks ahead to a challenging December

Tomas Plekanec for the Selke

• Canadiens slip to seventh in TSN Power Rankings

Reporters vs. Bloggers

And on a whimsical note, video scout Jarred Friedman found this clip of the Tampa Bay Lightning playing street hockey near the White House

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208 Comments

  1. ctony says:

    oh wait, i have #11:

    (11) Not even Sutter is stupid enough to trade for him

  2. light_n_tasty says:

    It’s because it’s frustrating to see what this team COULD be if it didn’t have the 8-mil Gomez contract weighing it down. We COULD be great if we had, say 8-mil to address our scoring issues.  We COULD be a feared stanley cup contender.  But we’re not.  And Gomez’ contract is the main reason.

  3. ctony says:

    glad you liked it… 

  4. VancouverHab says:

    Yeah, I still don’t get it.

    We’ve come off the best playoff run (and a great one) in two decades, we’re first in our division, in the top five in the league, we have a young almost-superstar goalie, a superstar-to-be young defenseman, Stanley-Cup-winning leadership, & an egoless team.

    And what do the media and some H-I/O commentors do in this halcyon time?

    Bitch and moan and trash Scott Gomez.

    This is not admirable behavior.

  5. Bugs says:

    No one is disagreeing with you that he ain’t bringin it at the moment, Pup. Heck, he’s only got 4 more pts than Eller; we ain’t blind.

    But he brought it when it counted the most and that helped get us further than we’d been in 17 yrs.

    And since we’re stuck with him for at least a coupla years anyways, might as well look on that bright side.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  6. SmartDog says:

    You have your head in the sand.  (I refrain from suggesting it’s someplace darker.)

    I was NOT one of those who EVER suggested trading my favorite player – Plekanec.  I was not one who suggested trading Price.  I am not a knee-jerk bullcrap artist.  I think about what I write (well, mostly).  And how about stopping for a minute and saying “hey Rob, you were right – Gomez really isn’t working out very well is he?”. 

    You (and other people) try to take one word or one little phrase from my posts, lump me in with people who do reactionary things, and call me names or put me down.  Fact is Gomez is a PROBLEM.  And those who say he’s not are out to lunch. The LEAGUE knows he’s a problem.  TSN even while finally praising Montreal has to point out that Gomez is the one major fly in the ointment.

    Go ahead, go on and on about how great Gomez is and how he’s about to catch fire.  Sadly, I’ll still be more right about his talent or lack. 

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  7. patrice brisebois says:

    I would be the greatest bond of all time.

  8. Bugs says:

    Got nothing against Craig. I dig the ugly thug look. But Dalton did the thug thing better. Plus, he was taller and beefier, not to mention classier. That’s just my opinion. Won’t call you goofy for havin yours.

    I’ll admit Eva Green is the bomb. So pretty, it makes your heart ache. And those BOOBS; did you see those boobs? Wow. Thank gosh she did that other movie where she gets completely naked in so you don’t have to kill yourslef imaginin it. (forget what it was called as well as what it was about) Won’t call you goofy for puttin her up there with the other actresses. She did a fine job.

    But where I draw the line is calling Casino Royale a master piece. No, sir, it wasn’t. Not one bit. The first 5 mins were excellent. The intro was very good. But then, right off the bat, a guy RUNNING FOR HIS LIFE using parkour??? I’m out. Completely irrational. A tad insulting too.

    Mads Mikkelson did what he could. Fantastic actor. Best scene of the movie was the torture scene. But then, he’s killed off and there’s no one left. A Bond movie around a TABLE??? Nuh-uh. I want charisma in the leading man. I want political intrigue. I want detective work. I want life-saving gadgets. And I want a ticking-bomb finale I’ve never seen before. None of which the movie had.

    It wasn’t terrible. Certainly better than Moonraker, arguably better than Live and Let Die, and definitely better than the first Casino Royale, but a masterpiece? Oof. No, Berkie. Trust me, I say this with love: let the movie age another few years and dare to compare it then.

    Um, waitaminnit…unless I’m being punked? You sayin that on purpose to rile me up? You punkin me, mate?

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  9. VancouverHab says:

    Best Bond: Daniel Craig. Agreed.

    “Best Bond girl in Diana Rigg, for obvious reasons.”  Oh yeah!

    Here’s a classic music video for all us “‘M’ Appeal” devotees: Emma Peel by the Allies.

    (“I’m in love with Emma Peel / Smooth as Ivory / Hard as steel / Emma I’ll be your Steed / I’ll be all you ever need / etc.)

  10. VancouverHab says:

    Ha ha! (I need to change my underwear after laughing over #3)

    I do indeed agree with 1,2,3,4 & 9, and partially with 5 & 6.

    My #3A though, the massive explanation that nobody seems to want to mention, is “we are winning and Gomez is contributing defensively as well as leadershiply (!) and lots of Hab greats past have had longer and worse slumps and weren’t nuked for it.”

    But, yep ”f” it is :–) 

  11. light_n_tasty says:

    d. is what should happen, for sure.  More specifically, he should be waived out of the league, without any problem contracts in return.  The Gomez contract is what is keeping us from being a legitimate cup contender.  We are paying 8-mil to get a superstar stud centre, and instead are getting an 8-mil dud.  Imagine what this team could be capable of if those $8-mil were invested in a legitimate $8-mil forward.  Or even 2 legitimate $4-mil forwards.

     

    e. Is what will happen.

  12. The Teacher says:

    Since when is it smart to flog a dead horse?

  13. punkster says:

    “…on pace for 30 points…”

    If this is what you’re basing your decisions on, Coach, then you have bigger problems. What if Pleks doesn’t reach the 90+ points he’s on pace for? He should be traded. Will Carey get the 16 SOs he’s on pace for? If not, trade him. Is Halpern going to get the 50 points or 20 goals he’s on pace for? No? Trade his sorry butt. Is PK only going to get 4 goals and 35 points he’s on pace for? Back to the Bulldogs until you learn how to bag points consistently.

    “On pace for” doesn’t mean diddly.

    Pull out all your doom and gloom prediction posts at the end of the season and see where you stand.

    (Hey Rob I hope you weren’t one of the guys who wanted Price traded last season? Or Pleks traded a couple of years ago or last year? Or Martin dumped last year?)

    😉 all in good fun SD…all in good fun 😉

     

  14. HOGGIE says:

    no am sure no one has considered that and they shouldn’t

    if you have a guy on the point who can’t shoot the puck then it makes it easy on the d they just dont cover the guy on the point and go man to man with the 4 guys down low pp contained game over

  15. Bugs says:

    The only good thing about the Brosnan Bonds was Brosnan himself.

    Once Tina Turner stopped singin after the boss opening of Goldeneye, the whole series went down the tubes.

    Shoulda hired Tom Clancy (or someone at least familiar with techno-political issues) to write the new stuff.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  16. HOGGIE says:

    a. for sure no doubt about it, he needs to have the fear of god(a.ka  J.M. lol ) put into him he has no urgency in his game at the moment and that has to change. A first line center with only 7 points this far in the year just doesn’t cut it here or anywhere in the league.

  17. andrewberkshire says:

    Gotta say, you’re both nuts. Craig is easily the best actor of all the Bonds. The best Bond by a landslide, and Eva Green holds the same titles as far as bond girls go. Casino Royale was a masterpiece.

  18. SmartDog says:

    You’re not alone.

    But forget even about salary for a minute.  If you have a 2nd line center on pace for 30 points on the year you have a problem.  Whatever they are doing or have done isn’t working.  Bench the guy, let him feel the pain and give him a break to get his mind back to where it needs to be.  Make him hungry.  I guarntee he’ll come back better.  It kills me that they haven’t done that.  Everyone knows I wish he was gone but putting that TOTALLY ASIDE, if he’s here I want them to make him play better. And hand-holding ain’t workin.  He’s a proud guy. Put him in the sandbox and tell him to prove he belongs back on the ice.

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  19. newbrunswick troy says:

     i,m affraid to say>>>>  E

  20. shiram says:

    As i said Dalton had that whole late 80’s early 90’s swagger going for him, he seemed totally care-free, and had a refreshing attitude after British bore-fest Moore.

    I guess Dalton didnt get his fair share, with only 2 movie under his belt.

    About Bond girls, Halle Berry was not great, i am still thankful they didnt do her spinoff as Jinx, but Denise Richards was just too low, and making her a nuclear physicist too… ugh.

    I just got a flashback of “i thought Christmas only came once a year” and ugh…

  21. Bugs says:

    Really? Cuz “The Living Daylights” is my favourite. Great story, great baddies, the greatest stunts and super-cool soundtrack. But “Goldfinger” had the best baddie as well as the best evil plan, sooo…could go either way, I guess.

    Oddly enough, the finest written Bond was Lazenby’s, imo. Also superb soundtrack. Best Bond girl in Diana Rigg, for obvious reasons, not to mention she was the only real “actress” in the bunch. Gosh bless Carey Lowell and Halle Berry and everything, but they’re no Diana Riggs, knowumsayin?

    I liked Dalton best cuz he LOOKED like a stone cold murderer but still behaved with panache. That guy didn’t screw around. “I help people with problems.”

    “Problem solver?”

    “More like a problem eliminator.”

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  22. Danno says:

    Okay, not all. But many.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  23. SmartDog says:

    I don’t hate Gomez either.  But if was contributing even just as well as last year we’d have a real 2nd line.  But even WITHOUT talking about salary, anyone who can’t see that our 2nd line and our 2nd line center is the weakest part of our team is blind. 

    It’s a problem that needs a solution.  Rivet benched, Ovechkin benched, but not Gomez…. doesn’t make sense that Gomez is not feeling serious heat. The hand-holding approach is not working.  Bench the guy, let him fight his way back. 

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  24. shiram says:

    I do like Timothy, but he might have been stuck with some lesser quality movies.

    As for Craig, i’m not sure but i think his contract is for only one more Bond, and while he is a good actor, the newer movies have so little to do with the classic James Bond idea… its weird.

    That said, Ian Flemming wrote James Bond somewhat as an embellished version of himself, and Craig is so far from that, Dalton was too flashy a sign of his time I’d say.

     

  25. andrewberkshire says:

    Gallagher should be able to step right into the spot vacated by Jordan Eberle.

  26. Storm Man says:

    That is a very bold statement. All Montrealers have the Rouge et Or close to the heart???. I don’t care much for CIS football into NCAA football myself. I think you should ask someone from McGill, Concordia and the Universite de Montreal see what they have to say on the topic.  

  27. habs365 says:

    I don’t hate Gomez..so far he hasn’t proven he’s a top six player or Eller, however Eller has lots of time to mature..I would go with Pouliot-Halpern-Cammalleri..I think they would make a very good second line..I maybe wrong but it’s worth a try…….

  28. lavie says:

    Gomez-Pleky-AK46 line will be made as the final hope.

  29. andrewberkshire says:

    If Gomez isn’t producing in the next 5 or so games, Eller should replace him temporarily. Unquestionably.

  30. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    Yeah, you musta missed where he threw our coach under the bus (who by the way is looking like the best coach in the league thus far) and had the audacity to say hes a top 6 NHL forward when hes looked like crap on ice everytime hes played here. Pointless squabble aside, if we could swing for Parisé and Max was part of the deal, could you honestly say you wouldn’t go for it? Markov is done and if he doesnt re-sign for under 4 mil its time to let go. Parisé is top notch. We will have the cap space. Bring him to the land where his fathers’ died! (Sorry, awful play on an American anthem song seeing he’s half French half American. Myself also being American).

    The Hockey God will remain for 6 more years…

  31. Bugs says:

    Daniel Craig is the new James Bond.

    Not totally sold on the guy just yet… He’s good, I like’m, but…aw, I dunno, not fersure yet.

    Timothy Dalton was just so KICK-azz, you know? A bad mother.

    THAT was the James Bond Ian Fleming wrote about.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  32. Max_a_million says:

    He is signed for so long, and at that high level of cost finding ways for him to be more productive are the best alternatives.  This requires careful thoughtful skilled management. 

    **aside** I do think a lot of fans try to transfer their frustration with his lack of production into the locker room, which as far as I can see is the furthest thing from the truth.  He has a great personality that meshes well in the locker room.  His teammates love him.  Doing something bad to him like burying him in the minors would be classless and harmful.  Something a team like Toronto or the Rangers would do. 

    (a) he is working hard, not sure how pride would matter in this. 

    (b) I think you could cut his time, and change his role without making it an outright demotion.  “Scottie we want you to work with Pyatt and Moen to make them more offensive, and have more scoring lines …”

    (c) Seems like they are already having Cammelleri play as more of a playmaker with him right now, so he is less of center already. 

    (d) If the right trade for a struggling character player with issues arises than I could see that.  It’s not a likely scenario, but if something happens just right it would make sense. 

    * – I think they cut his time gradually.  Nothing much happens unless they lose more than they win.  In a couple of years PG will trade him. 

  33. StevieRay says:

    There’re not missing much then are they ?

  34. forskis says:

    All of it is really no big deal…the complaining just adds fuel to the Hab-haters who think that Habs’ fans are the whiniest in the League.

    First, it is just Cherry’s opinion…it is not as if they did a survey of the players in the League about PK….it is just like his segments about improving equipment to reduce injury, it is just his opinion, a lot of it, even though it makes sense has not been implemented.  He has also harped on Crosby for all his ref complaining…

    And leave Bob Cole alone…have you ever considered that the easy save, really WAS an easy save, like a shot from the outside perimeter?  The Leafs and Habs were bashed constantly the past few years about taking a lot of perimeter shots with no traffic.  We all think here that the Habs take too many easy, traffic-free shots.

    As for the Dallas highlights…it could just be an analysis of what they did right against Dallas vs. what they did wrong against Ottawa.  Also, Kadri has had only 7 NHL games to date…it is way too early to call him a disappointment, besides he is a center with 4 assists in 7 games, not bad for a rookie.

    To echo below…it is what it is…the team is doing well…who cares what others say about it as long as they continue to play well.  Look at the Flyers, everyone agrees that they are a bunch of nimrods, but everyone agrees that they are amongst the deepest in the League.

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  35. habs365 says:

    we’re getting there but it’s a ways off yet..for now I wouldn’t plan a parade route..gotta find a couple more steady scores..than the parade maybe on…….

  36. G-Man says:

    Listen to the game on radio and PVR it into synch.

  37. G-Man says:

    SD will write out another 5 question post.

  38. TomNickle says:

    I wouldn’t scratch him but I think taking away powerplay time and offensive zone faceoffs are viable options.

    He looks to me like Benny did late last year, lacking confidence.  I’m very thankful that his mistakes don’t translate into goals for the opposition.  And he’ll probably see his regular ice time ongoing for that simple reason.

  39. shiram says:

    I think thats because they dont see him!

  40. ctony says:

    This one is for you VancouverHab…

     

    I choose, (f) absolute status quo because…

     

    (1)  making changes = panicking

    (2)  coaches and management never make mistakes so
    don’t doubt them

    (3)  we are winning right now and doing
    something with gomez would be like changing your underwear while you’re on a
    goal scoring streak or shaving during the playoffs, bad mojo

    (4)  he’s a veteran guy and deserves respect

    (5)  it doesn’t matter how much he makes he’s a
    good team guy

    (6)  he’s the only reason we got gionta and cammi
    to sign

    (7)  we never did things like that to l’artiste
    (oh, wait)

    (8)  he’s a leader and leaders don’t take
    secondary roles (sure, gainey played on the third line, but that was a long
    time ago)

    (9)  His multi-year downturn is due to end soooooon,
    we promise

    (10) we don’t
    have anyone in the organization and no cap room to find someone who can put up
    more than 7 points.

     

  41. HabFanSince72 says:

    Exactly. So this trade helps the Leafs and hurts the Bruins.

    As far as the Flyers are concerned, only a meteorite would do justice to that franchise.

  42. StevieRay says:

    e …. you gotta play him .. we’re into him for 7 -8 mil a year . I can’t see him coming out of the funk he’s in though

    The fans are cutting him a lot more slack than they did Carey last year !

  43. Danno says:

    Well they may not be so close geographically, but they are close to the heart of all Montrealers that’s for sure. Want to bet both teams get invited along with the Als for a special pre-game celebration at the Bell Centre? Both will be proudly hoisting their hardware no doubt.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  44. Everlasting1 says:

    For a contact sport that promotes and encourages fighting, and which fans want to see, nobody (other than Subban fans) cares what Cherry opines about.

    How about a letter to CBC/Cherry about their fixation/support for the military, and their occupation of countries like Afghanistan which we have no business being involved in?

     

      

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  45. aemarchand11 says:

    It all depends on the coaching philosophy, if they are looking for an offensive powerhouse then Bournival and Gallagher could both make it. But if they are looking to play the 2-way, hard nose hockey we have grown a custom to then Gallagher may not fit the bill.

    I agree that it is Leblanc’s spot to lose, he had a great summer camp and has made a great transition from College to the Q. (Transition meaning more games, travel, pressure etc…)

    Go Habs Go!
    2010-2011

  46. habs365 says:

    They have a good group as far as defense goes, probably the best in the league but if cammalleri thinks they can win a cup with just good defense..he’s in for a rude awakening..they only have 2 or 3 steady scores..mostly the first line..never win a cup like that..look no further than chicago last year..70% offence that’s the main reason they won..the Habs have already proven they’re not a come from behind team..when they get the first goal..they usually win…….

  47. aemarchand11 says:

    When ones tax dollars are being allocated to this TV show, they have every right to complain about it. Much like people who vote complain about the government.

    Go Habs Go!
    2010-2011

  48. SmartDog says:

    ONE QUESTION (actuallly two):

    If Gomez doesn’t show signs of being an improved player within the next handful of games, which do you think SHOULD HAPPEN?:

    a. Sit him to wake up his pride.

    b. Replace him with Eller or Halpern on the 2nd line and moved down.

    c. JM should try him on the wing.

    d. Something drastic (i.e. traded for another problem player, sent to Hamilton)

    e. None of the above. Gomez is a veteran and as long as the team is winning it doesn’t matter.

    Which WILL happen?

    SD

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  49. mbplekfan says:

    Quit whining. It is what it is.

    Grapes is Grapes and HNIC is a TV show.

  50. joshua94k says:

    On Saturday night, CBC Leafs propaganda was at its worst. It is obvious Leafs fans McLean, Cherry, Cole were not in a good mood, especially after Leafs Nation is on the verge of missing the play-offs again.

    After the Leafs lost to struggling Senators, Cherry and McLean show highlight of the Leafs last win against Dallas, several night earlier ! They show show a token highlight of the Senators win that night and hardly praise them for their victory.

    Then obviously upset that the Leafs have no good prospect in sight, that Kadri is a disappointment ( no goals in seven games), Cherry vents his frusturation on Subban.

    When Subban played in the play-offs last season Cherry said “His name is Parnell Karl Subban”. Now he says “PK whatever his name is”. He says that he is becoming the most disliked player in the league. Cherry is upset that Subban is disrespectul to Sidney Crosby when thay played earlier this season. Perhaps Subban was upset at the constant whining to the referees. McLean just nods like a puppet to Cherry’s tirade.

    Cherry is upset that Subban is disrespectful to Richards. Perhaps Subban was defending Kostitsyn who is not a fighter. McLean just nods like a puppet.

    Cherry is upset with Subban after he says something to Tyler Myers, but Myers gave Subban a cheap shot boarding hit. McLean just nods like a puppet.

    This is disgraceful. Our tax dollars are being paid by biased and unfair coverage. They are being ‘disrespectful’ to a rookie on national TV. They are trying to make him look like a Sean Avery or Claude Lemieux which is unfair to a player who never instigates fights, never takes cheap shots or illegal hits, who plays the game hard but fair. The fact that oppenents have a hard time getting by him is what makes him unlikeable. 

    How much more do we have to hear Bob Cole say “and the goalie makes another easy save”, after every third shot by the Canadiens, 

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  51. SmartDog says:

    Yeah, and my fire is still going but it doesn’t mean I shouldn’t throw another log on. 

    Your post is childish and hardly deserves a response.

    Just because we’re winning doesn’t mean Gomez isn’t a problem.  Good leadership doesn’t ignore problems and even better – is proactive. If you don’t see Gomez’s terrible stats/performance as a problem that can drag the team down then you are blind and short-sighted.

    More to the point: the team WILL do one of the things we are suggesting soon if he does not pick it up.  Mark my words.

    You can go back to your playstation now.

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  52. ctony says:

    This isn’t a Gomez thing, it’s a second line thing.  Like it or not, we are going to need a second line, preferably one that can score consistently (to take a little pressure off the top line, fewer shutouts when teams shutdown the top guys, etc.).  

    So, it’s up to management to come up something.  For JM it means re-starting Gomez or finding someone in the current organization to centre the second line.  For PG it may mean changing the roster.  All the experts claim there are no trades because no teams have cap room.  With Markov out, we have lots of cap room.  We could pick up a power forward, PP defenseman, a slick centre, or whatever we want.  Teams with high priced guys need to move players, we have room and a decent farm system.

    We can do all that and keep Gomez around.  Leaders come in all forms these days – Luongo as Captain in net (unheard of), Rivet healthy scratch for five games (unusual), Ethan Moreau on the fourth line in Edmonton, hell Bob Gainey was a third line player on the Habs while he was our C —- leaders play the role their teams needs.

     

     


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