Waiting begins now for Vegas Golden Knights expansion draft

The protected lists have been submitted by all 30 NHL teams and now the waiting begins before the Vegas Golden Knights announce which players they will pick from the expansion draft Wednesday night to form their team for next season.

The Canadiens traded Nathan Beaulieu to the Buffalo Sabres Saturday in exchange for a third-round draft pick this year (68th overall), which allowed them to list Jordie Benn among the three defencemen they protected.

Here’s the Canadiens complete protected list:

Forwards: Max Pacioretty, Brendan Gallagher, Paul Byron, Phillip Danault, Alex Galchenyuk, Andrew Shaw, Jonathan Drouin.

Defence: Jeff Petry, Shea Weber, Jordie Benn.

Goaltender: Carey Price.

The Vegas team selections will be announced Wednesday night during the NHL Awards ceremony at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.

During a conference call Sunday,  Beaulieu said he’s excited about a fresh start in Buffalo after being selected by the Canadiens in the first round (17th overall) of the 2011 NHL Draft.

“I see a huge opportunity,” the 24-year-old Beaulieu said. “I’m very fortunate that I’m staying close to home and Buffalo has such a young, bright future. Talking to management yesterday, I feel like I’m going to fit right into that process right away. I’m just really refreshed and excited, super happy.”

Beaulieu will have a new mentor in Buffalo in Sabres new head coach Phil Housley, a Hall of Famer who was one of the best offensive defencemen in NHL history and spent the last four seasons coaching the defence in Nashville.

“I’m so excited because the style of play he wants to put forth is going to fit right into my game,” Beaulieu said about Housley during the conference call. “I’ve got a huge opportunity here to really grow my game with a guy who played the game similar to how I would like to play.”

Beaulieu was the second former first-round draft pick Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin traded away in the same week after dealing Mikhail Sergachev — selected ninth overall last year — to the Tampa Bay Lightning on Thursday in exchange for Jonathan Drouin. The Canadiens also gave up a conditional second-round draft pick in 2018 in the Drouin deal, while receiving a conditional sixth-round pick from the Lightning the same year. 

Beaulieu joins a long list of other first-round draft picks no longer with the Canadiens, including David Fischer (2006), Ryan McDonagh (2007), Louis Leblanc (2009) and Jarred Tinordi (2010). Alex Galchenyuk, selected in the first round in 2012 — one year after Beaulieu — could also be on the trade block now.

When asked at his end-of-season news conference in April about the Canadiens’ problems developing players like Beaulieu and Galchenyuk, Bergevin said: “At some point players have to take ownership. So I’m not going to start blaming our people. At some point players have to take ownership, know where their game’s at. You tell players this is what you have to work on … and until young players realize that it is an issue, they need to get better, they never will. So hopefully this year was a message strongly sent on their play and hopefully they can turn around.”

The writing appeared to be on the wall for Beaulieu as far as his future with the Canadiens when he was made a healthy scratch for the team’s final game last season, a Game 6 loss to the New York Rangers in the first round of the playoffs.

“I think that was kind of the cherry on the top of a situation that was kind of over with, I guess,” Beaulieu said during the conference call. “I wasn’t expecting to be put in that situation, and after I was I felt pretty strongly that a move like this was going to be made and was going to be best for me.”

Among the Canadiens forwards not protected for the Vegas expansion draft are Alexander Radulov (who can become an unrestricted free agent on July 1), Daniel Carr, Jacob De La Rose, Brian Flynn, Torrey Mitchell and Charles Hudon. The available defencemen from the Montreal roster include Andrei Markov (who can become an unrestricted free agent on July 1), Alexei Emelin and Brandon Davidson.

Canadiens first-round draft picks

With Sergachev and Beaulieu both gone — and Galchenyuk possibly on his way out of Montreal — here’s a look at the Canadiens’ first-round draft picks since their last Stanley Cup victory in 1993. They haven’t had much success:

2016: Mikhail Sergachev (ninth overall)

2015: Noah Juulsen (26th)

2014: Nikita Scherbak (26th)

2013: Mike McCarron (25th)

2012: Alex Galchenyuk (third)

2011: Nathan Beaulieu (17th)

2010: Jarred Tinordi (22nd)

2009: Louis Leblanc (18th)

2008: None

2007: Ryan McDonagh (12th and Max Pacioretty (22nd)

2006: David Fischer (20th)

2005: Carey Price (fifth)

2004: Kyle Chipchura (18th)

2003: Andrei Kostitsyn (10th)

2002: Chris Higgins (14th)

2001: Mike Komisarek (seventh) and Alexander Perezhogin (25th)

2000: Ron Hainsey (13th) and Marcel Hossa (16th)

1999: None

1998: Éric Chouinard (16th)

1997: Jason Ward (11th)

1996: Matt Higgins (18th)

1995: Terry Ryan (eighth)

1994: Brad Brown (18th)

1993: Saku Koivu (21st)

When asked about the team’s lack of success at the draft during his end-of-season news conference, Bergevin said: “When you pick in the 20s year after year it’s hard to find that piece, that core piece, unless you get very lucky.”

(Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)

• Habs’ Plekanec among available players for expansion draft, by Pat Hickey

• Canadiens deal Beaulieu to Buffalo for third-round pick, by Pat Hickey

• Drouin’s skills and charisma comparable to Lafleur, by Jack Todd

• Habs prospects, Part I: Charlie Lindgren

• Habs prospects, Part II: Charles Hudon

• Habs prospects, Part III: Jacob De La Rose

• Habs prospects, Part IV: Noah Juulsen

• Habs prospects, Part V: Michael McCarron

1,055 Comments

  1. Don Birnam says:

    New thread.
    Carey Chillin’ in Vegas.

  2. Mmmich says:

    Hadn’t they announced that Vegas had to have their roster in by this morning at 10 AM eastern? I seem to remember this.

    Why isn’t anyone over at the league leaking this list to us? Or at least someone with Vegas? Is it too much to expect everyone who knows the list won’t be patient enough to keep a lid on it until tonight? In the age of information, surely someone can tip someone off!

  3. veryhabby says:

    My opinion from what I have seen MB do this off season:

    1) didn’t want to lose a valuable player for nothing so traded Beau

    2)no game changer on our list so MB will just let LV take whoever they will and move on to try to fix the need on our roster

    3)when he said “expect the unexpected”….I think he knew not only the deal that would happen for Beau but I believe MTL has another after LV draft that will be completed. Mckenzie and others, are saying there are other deals that were worked on that are going to be completed after LV draft. I think MB has another one up his sleeve. I will guess its for Chuck. Really hope the return is good cause I may be the only one not at all interested in Leddy. At 26/27 pretty sure he won’t be any better then he is now. And now he is just average. Another Petry? A #4?

    By Thursday afternoon more will make sense.

    Wonder if the presumed trade to NYI includes our 25th pick, as NYI gave up theirs for LV to take Grabs?

  4. Bergevin's Foxhole says:

    What happened to Timo? Did a Vegas fan site draft him? Which fans here would be worth protecting? Hmmm….

  5. SmartDog says:

    Does anyone else think this Hossa “skin disorder” problem is a scam to help the team out of his front loaded contract. I mean, he’s going to miss the whole year? Fishy, fishy, fishy. Why didn’t Bergie learn stuff like that?

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    With Marc Bergevin’s leadership:
    The “C” stands for Cronyism.
    The “H” stands for Hubris.

    • Captain aHab says:

      Of course it is. As I stated below, when that contract was signed, the league already had a problem with the last 4 years looking like retirement years for the purposes of lowering the cap hit. The plan was always for him to “retire” now.

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      Drop da puck already!

    • boing007 says:

      They didn’t want to offend MB’s moral sensibilities.

      Richard R

      • SmartDog says:

        ‘High Horse’ Marc wouldn’t do anything that could be a distraction.
        Except for bad trades and bad suits.

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        With Marc Bergevin’s leadership:
        The “C” stands for Cronyism.
        The “H” stands for Hubris.

    • New says:

      What I want to know is if Kovalchuck comes back to the NHL do the previously forgiven penalties to NJ get re-instated?

      In other words I think the owners, thru the governors, get po’d at the others cheating but, after a year or so of golf and backslapping, they forgive the guys because some other team did something else. Only so much space in the time-out corner of the club.

  6. Don Birnam says:

    Our D was good in the playoffs imo.
    Problem was scoring goals.(Max,Chucky with goose eggs)
    Marc made a move to address this with Drouin.
    Chucky is worth keeping one more year to see if he can get it going.
    Max? Keep him I guess. He did pick a fight with that college boy Vessey.

    • veryhabby says:

      Don, what you are thinking makes sense and is what most of us are thinking.

      But we do have 2 needs…upgrade C and a partner for Weber. Both of these have to be address. With Serg gone, no one is in the wings to take that spot. If we have Weber, no use to not have a partner for him NOW during his best years with us.

      Zero idea how the C will be fixed. If Drouin doesn’t fill it, if Pleks gets picked tonight (doubt it), if Chuck gets traded….no idea how it gets fixed.

  7. ColdComfort says:

    @Ahab. You’ve asked me to remove a post. I will not.

    • Captain aHab says:

      So “Thou shalt slander” is a new commandment?

      I’m not surprised but buddy, if all it takes for you to call someone a religious bigot is that post I made, you need treatment.

      Dunboyne Mike totally got what I was saying. You clearly did not.

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      Drop da puck already!

  8. DipsyDoodler says:

    Based on this: https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    it seems Vegas will be able to hurt a lot of teams, by taking good draft picks and/or prospects.

    We’re fortunate that the worst they did to us is force us to trade Beaulieu at below market value. Can’t quite see them helping us (i.e. taking Plekanec) but there’s not much we can lose now.

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    • DipsyDoodler says:

      And maybe they already helped us by facilitating the Drouin deal.

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    • Captain aHab says:

      You have to wonder though just how much blowback GM GM will get in future years in return for the extortion.

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      Drop da puck already!

    • New says:

      So much of that stuff is collated rumours – one guy starts it and it takes on a life of it’s own.

      To look at the rumour mill Vegas is out there to solve every team’s cap issues. Got a player under-performing for the contract or hurt (Grakovski a prime example) then Vegas will take him, activate the sucker, and eat the dollars to reach the cap floor. Not likely.

      Vegas is out to help Vegas not the other teams.

      As for the Habs, think DSP. Sekac for DSP, DSP for Matteau. Net effect for all three teams – nothing. Montreal isn’t going to do something that doesn’t make sense. Even if HIO screams when Sekac leaves then screams again when DSP leaves.

      Maybe by July 1st we’ll have an idea what is ongoing.

    • Don Birnam says:

      Marc was lucky to get a 3rd for Nate amigo.
      Rumours are Talon was shopping Marchessault and couldnt even get that.

      • veryhabby says:

        For all the talk and all the “we don’t want to lose anyone for nothing” talk prior to the list being submitted….only MTL bit on it.

        Saying “thanks, we’ll take Drouin”. And “maybe we just got screwed out of better value for Beau”. No other team did anything. Which is surprising. All talk no action, just seems weird.

        I guess many thought they could get better deals with LV? And maybe they were wrong. As many teams tried but couldn’t agree with what LV was asking. Bet ya some GMs wished they had pulled some pre list trades.

      • New says:

        You gotta figure a team can protect at most 11 of it’s 23 man roster. About half. You take Marchessault (30 goals suddenly and all) and what are you going to do with him? Like if you’re Edmonton do you drop Letestu to protect this thing called Marchessault?

        The question with Beaulieu was and is how come he’s only worth a third as a 6 or 7 D here so you protect Benn, yet to Buffalo he is one of the three D they protect?

        This is like betting sports, all things may not be as they seem. Otherwise the industry wouldn’t exist.

  9. Captain aHab says:

    Would you do Beauvillier and Ryan Pulock for Galchenyuk? We would probably prefer Barzal/Pulock but I doubt we would get him.

    I still wonder just how bad MB wants to get rid of Galchenyuk. And I would prefer getting 2 young assets back instead of one d-man, albeit a good one.

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    Drop da puck already!

    • krob1000 says:

      NO….this team needs players who will contribute right now….Beauvillier can be the future piece but if trading Galchenyuk you need a youngish yet key piece right now

      • Captain aHab says:

        I agree but this is why I ask how badly MB wants to get rid of Galchenyuk. He might prefer getting 2 pieces back but other teams might not be willing right now.

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        Drop da puck already!

      • Dust says:

        ID rather Barzal than Beauvillier.

        If we could get Leddy and Barzal for Chucky I’d be all for it.

        • krob1000 says:

          I would like MB to take this opportunity to stockpile as much Franco talent as possible so we never see the likes of the DD (who I liked BTW) overuse and Danault overuse last year….restore the identity of the Franchise for foreseeable future and right now it can be done. With Drouin, Danault blossoming, Marchessault available and potential Beauvillier deal? could be very good for the Franchise, the culture and for those guys to have a group to share the weight of the burden together…and they can all score which team needs!! win, win, win

        • Captain aHab says:

          I don’t think we would get Leddy and Beauvillier so I doubt we could get Barzal instead. Would you do Barzal and Pulock?

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          Drop da puck already!

          • Dust says:

            I’m not sure. Don’t know enough about Poluck. I recognize the name but don’t know much about him

  10. mrhabby says:

    When does all this drama unfold today. is there a time?

  11. HabinBurlington says:

    Have always liked Hossa and was amazed how strong on the puck he was regardless of his age. Wish him well with his health, but this is just yet another example of how teams usually find a way out from big long term contracts to older players.

    We obviously don’t know if Hossa is done long term, but at his age it could be really difficult to come back to the NHL after a year away.

    To me another example why you can roll the dice on longer term deals for a guy like Radulov.

    • Don Birnam says:

      Hola Burly!
      Vegas Baby!
      Mini summit?
      A round of golf,Hockey Game, and Walkabout of Epic proportions.
      Saludos Amigo!

    • chilli says:

      I’d rather roll the dice on the most competitive player on our team than play it safe and have players like DD for 4 and Shaw for 6.
      If we are going to have a player for 6 years, make it Rads.

    • veryhabby says:

      Not to be rude on a guy who has a health issue

      But anyone else find it funny timming? He lived with it for all these years. But now that his contract goes to $1M salary for the next 4 yrs and Chicago has cap issues….he can no longer play?

      Hossa was one of the last front loaded extra long contracts handed out before the strike stopped them from happening again. Wouldn’t be surprised if Hossa always planned to “retire” this year. With

      LTIR, he can retire, get paid, and no cap hit for Chicago?

      • SmartDog says:

        I don’t think it’s rude at all to speculate on this. Looks 100% fishy to me.

        ————————————-
        With Marc Bergevin’s leadership:
        The “C” stands for Cronyism.
        The “H” stands for Hubris.

  12. krob1000 says:

    Any chance in hell Habs get Staal and Marchessault out of this?!?! and move Emelin and Pleks?? Sounds like vegas will end up with Staal….

    • 24 Cups says:

      Latest rumour has Vegas taking Hauda from Minnesota.

    • mrhabby says:

      Martin LeMay reported last night. Pleks to Vegas and Bergy was throwing in Davidson as a thank you to Vegas.

      • veryhabby says:

        was that a wish?

        nothing gets leaked from MTL, and with all the reliable insiders never bringing up MTL as a team talking deal with LV….I don’t believe at all anything, other then losing Hudon, will happen for the Habs tonight.

        LV has been asking a lot for deals to be made, MB doesn’t seem like a guy who stays in bidding wars.

  13. krob1000 says:

    Mckenzie thinks Marchessault will be dealt in secondary deal? hmmm
    That would replace Chucky goals on paper and add more to a potential Franco stockpile….could very well lead to Chuck for Leddy and Beauvillier deal Wilde alluded to. Marchessault is also extremely cheap for one year…same amount of time Habs potentially have PLeks for and Hudon on two way deal??

    Question is though how much salary can Habs shed…if truth to the Davidson/Emelin to Vegas still leaves Pleks on books…does that leave room to sign Rad still and fit Leddy under cap if truth to that deal?

    • adamkennelly says:

      I was thinking that Marchessault would be coming our way but….why not just trade Beaulieu for him…

      going to be a fun few days – ending with July 1st

      hope the Habs manage to shed some salary and make the team younger if not better…give the kids a chance.

      • Phil C says:

        Florida would then have to protect Beaulieu. Not many teams could afford to make a deal before the expansion draft. The Habs did well to get Drouin.

    • Paz says:

      Leddy is THE key piece on that Islanders blue line. He’s not the same value he was with the Hawks. He’s so much more to the Islanders. Coming off his best season, 11 goals, 35 assists, and one of the top point producers on the team.

      Galchenyuk does not get you Leddy one for one, forget about them throwing in a 20 year old who is established in the NHL already.

      That rumour is total crap.

      • Phil C says:

        Maybe not one-for-one. But where else will the Islanders find a young sniper to entice Tavares to sign? They need to do something so it will cost them. I really hope they don’t just dump Galchenyuk, they really need to get value back.

        • Loop_G says:

          James Neal and Marchessault as mentioned above, could both be had from Vegas without the Isles giving up an important current player. Tavares wants current success so the Isles could send a couple picks and prospects for either of those guys to add some offense.

      • krob1000 says:

        I disagree…NYI are deep on blueline and while LEddy is very good he is NOT a number one dman on a strong NHL team. he could play beside a Weber and be a great piece…but IMO Chcuky has more potential to be a number 1 center than Leddy ever does of being a number 1 dman on a good team

        • HabinBurlington says:

          With you on this krob. Upside for Chucky at 23 is still greater than Leddy at 26. Not to take anything away from how good Leddy is, but Galchenyuk is still a very valuable asset (hopefully to the Habs).

      • Captain aHab says:

        I don’t believe the Leddy rumour either. Or it will be a one for one, which I don’t like. Do the Isles have a top D prospect? I could see Galchenyuk for Beauvillier and that prospect if MB really wants to get rid of him.

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        Drop da puck already!

    • Phil C says:

      They have $19M left for 6 roster spots. Let’s assume 3 of them will be under a $1M depth/young guys like McCarron, Jerabek, etc. That leaves $16M to sign Galchenyuk, Radulov, and Markov. A bit tight for that, they’ll have to shed salary. If they can’t sign Radulov, they have lots of space.

      https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canadiens

  14. PONCH says:

    Blackhawks’ Hossa will miss 2017-18 season due to skin disorder

    Hmmm. Wonder if they could use a young talented winger.

    Strike while they are weak?

    Galchenyk and our first for Animisov (sp) a top 4 d and their first

    Just throwing it out there for discussion

    To be a Hockey Fan is to be a Habs Fan

  15. krob1000 says:

    OK so everyone says Nate has no value and is only worth a 3rd
    BUT …everyone says he would have been taken by Vegas if unprotected
    BUT PLekanec is unprotected and is said to be worth a 1st or 2nd to Vegas at the deadline, Hudon and DLR are valued and unprotected and are worth more than a 3rd given they are both NHL ready and cheap….
    So…..is Nate really only worth a 3rd or is there more to come out about that deal? Weird deal for sure…..

    Is it possible Habs could have traded Nate to Buffalo for a 3rd as a “holding fee” like at a tow yard? Then pay something else to get him out? or is there another piece we will get back from them after expansion draft?

    • Dust says:

      he was only worth a 3rd. So far he is a guy who hasn’t lived up to his potential and there are rumours of off ice issues.
      He may be one of these players that never put it all together and this is as good as it gets. He may end up being that 2/3 dman everyone hoped for.
      AS a rival Gm would you want to give up more than a high 3rd round pick for that?

      • Phil C says:

        For an NHL ready player? He’s worth at least a 2nd in a better market. A 2nd pick is 60% chance of not even playing 100 games. Beaulieu is NHL ready, it’s just a question of where he’ll end in your depth chart, so that’s better than a 2nd rounder.

        Don’t you think we traded him at the worst possible time in terms of market value? Unless there is a deal in place, like KRob suggests…

      • krob1000 says:

        in bottom pairing minutes he put up 28 pts as a dman…our Number one center put up 40…..kid did just fine…issue with Nate is when he screws up he screws up magnificently

        • Dust says:

          That is the issue with him. His consistency. Is he a 3rd pairing guy or is he more?
          How much was he asking for in a contract? Does he want 1-2 mil or does he want 3-4mil? I don’t know? It looks like the habs don’t think he will be more than a 3rd pairing guy though.

          Phil
          I agree not the right time to trade him. Maybe could have got more after the expansion draft. To me it makes me think maybe the off ice issues are real. Again i don’t know but they felt they needed to trade him as soon as they could.

    • Cal says:

      Pleks on the trade market at his cap hit isn’t worth it. The Habs will likely watch him walk away or trade him on March 1st for peanuts.
      The Beaulieu trade is another example of how well the Habs develop their youth. They worry more about after hours stuff instead of winning. They worry more about how a player celebrates scoring a goal instead of winning. They worry more about how player behavior is perceived instead of winning.
      No wonder the team focuses on the past. The present is painful to watch.

      • Coach K says:

        Hard to argue with you.

        If Nate had little value it’s on management.

        Poor coaching/deployment and development could have easily led to the alleged bad attitude.

        -Adversity Does Not Build Character…it Reveals it-
        (James Lane Allen)

        • krob1000 says:

          I don’t doubt Nate contributed too…..but as I posted other day there is a pattern of us on here complaining about players who are underused, not being developed and then later their value is destroyed and they are moved out of town for peanuts. If there are issues why not put player in position to succeed….build up value and if not a fit move them when you get something of value.

          • Paz says:

            Why not manage effectively? Yes. That would seem to be a glaring weakness here.

          • Dust says:

            people tend to overvalue players though. Sekac and Diaz were prime examples of that. They both went to other teams and people were like watch now that they are with better coached/managed teams Sekac will be a top 6 player and Diaz a top 4 D. Both players went on to nothing.

          • krob1000 says:

            And Ghetto has done well, Sergei K went and led his team in scoring, Ryder went on to have a career year and win a cup, Mcdonagh turned into a stud,etc…plenty of examples the other way too…. Sekac rumoured attitude issues though, same as Sergei K…those two are exactly what I am talking about above…guys whose on ice play passed the eye test but apparently issues were not necessarily related to hockey.

          • Captain aHab says:

            Dust, your point would indicate to me that we have more of a drafting and player evaluation problem than a development problem.

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            Drop da puck already!

        • Dust says:

          Good point Captain.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      I agree the math doesn’t add up.

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    • Loop_G says:

      He is only worth a third. MB would have been in touch with every team offering him for a second, and would have unloaded him further away than buffalo if he could have. N8 has a lot of potential but too often looks like an AHL call-up. I would not be surprised if N8 was looking for 3-4 million on a new contract, and the Habs simply could not afford that and still have room for more important additions.

  16. The ice ghost says:

    Does this Vegas deal strike anyone else as rife with potential for sleaze?

    I thought McPhee had a great reputation? Not just on him.

    God I hate Gary Bettman. The league should be contracting, not expanding. 🙁

    • Habfan10912 says:

      There was a time when I thought we’d never ever ever see a major sports franchise in Vegas. Now we’ll see both an NHL and NFL team based there.

      The money in that City certainly could influence their franchises.

  17. Thomas Le Fan says:

    So … I’m mighty curious. Is there and over/under? How soon until Golden Knights become simply Knights? Yawn.

    It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. – Mark Twain

  18. 24 Cups says:

    Here’s the latest rumours concerning Vegas expansion draft trades.

    http://www.tsn.ca/off-season-watch-what-deals-did-vegas-make-1.784919

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      “TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie reports the Vegas Golden Knights may have made as many as 12 or more trades”

      1. Why not just call him TSN Reporter Bob McKenzie.

      2. As many as 12… or more!

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  19. chilli says:

    I didn’t realize Hossa scored 26 as a 38 year old.
    I’ll take Radu for 6 please.
    Don’t care if he can’t skate in year 6. At that time Price will be done, Weber with be using walker, Gallagher will be a player/coach in Swritzerland and Shaw will be hosting the Just For Laughs.

    Let’s get a great 4 years out of Rads and have some fun.

  20. Cal says:

    As we all wait to see what McPhee has pulled off, it’s time to revisit The Day the NHL and Its Fans Stood Still.

  21. AndyF says:

    Just a question for you cap-wizards out there…

    What cap benefit does Hossa’s medical retirement provide the Hawks?

    • on2ndthought says:

      Friedman has the details:
      If he were to retire now, the Blackhawks would be hit with what are called “cap recapture” penalties — $3.675 million off their club’s cap number from next season until 2020-21. For a team already facing a crunch, that’s a massive blow.

    • Cal says:

      About $2.675 mil difference. There’s a “cap recapture” clause if Hossa retires because he volunteers to. If there is a medical condition, they can “Pronger” him (LTIR) and only take a $1mil cap hit in lieu of $3.675 mil.
      Edit: too slow. *sigh*

    • Captain aHab says:

      Funny how the very first year his salary is slated to drop to $1M, this skin condition becomes intolerable.

      This. League. Is. A. Joke.

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      Drop da puck already!

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I can’t argue with your cynicism aHab, I always wondered how the Hossa contract would play out long term.

        • Captain aHab says:

          When it was signed the league already had an issue with these last 4 years being likely retirement years for the sole purpose of reducing the cap hit.

          I am simply AMAZED that the disease becomes far worse now. /Cynicism

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          Drop da puck already!

  22. Slack says:

    A closer look at the new Habs jersey

    No drastic changes, which is a good thing, and I’m digging that motto stirched into the inside of the collar.

    Most of the new Adidas jerseys are ugly as sin, IMO

  23. HabinBurlington says:

    Agree with the posters who feel term is the biggest stumbling block related to signing Radulov. However, I would think it is very likely or possible that he may want to finish his career in the KHL, especially after winning a Cup or two in Montreal over the next few years. He could well pull a Datsyuk and leave a couple years of the NHL contract here in North America while he plays in the KHL.

  24. 24 Cups says:

    Pierre Lebrun on @TSN690: “Emelin and Davidson are the two names I’ve heard connected most to Vegas.”
    6:22 PM – 20 Jun 2017

    Prearranged deals aside, in theory, Vegas could open the season with the following D:
    Dumba
    Methot
    Enstrom
    Manson
    Dotchin
    van Riemsdyk
    Stone (assuming they can sign him)

    Take Weber out of the equation and you have a Vegas D that would be on par with Montreal’s.

    • Cal says:

      For me, it’s why all those “don’t take this player” deals are stupid. If your team likes the player that much, why isn’t he on your “protected” list?
      It’s also why NM and NT clauses should never be included in a deal with a player. It always bites the team in ass, like it’s done with the Sens and the Wlid.

      • DipsyDoodler says:

        OK I’ll give it a shot.

        If you have more players you want to keep than you can protect?

        —–

        • Cal says:

          Then it’s tough luck for your team. All the owners agreed to this. Losing your 11th best for $16.6mil is a good deal.
          If your GM can’t protect all the players he likes, tough.
          Paying $500 mil for a franchise should mean you get to pick up some decent players.

          • Habfan10912 says:

            I agree with Cal here. It kind of reeks of subverting the rules but if I’m Vegas I’d take full advantage of it.

          • Phil C says:

            It’s not that big of a deal. Think of it as trading the player back to a team for a different bunch of assets from that team of equal or greater value. Depending on a team’s depth chart, keeping a player they can’t replace is worth giving up more assets in an area where they are deep, or for futures.

  25. 24 Cups says:

    I can’t say that I really like Vegas’ jerseys. When this generation looks back on their youth, they will regret the excessive use of the colour grey as well as their simplistic fascination with tattoos.

  26. habswarrior says:

    It should be an interesting evening once the list comes out. If Bergie is making a side deal I hope that he can get Eric Staal from Vegas. Not sure if Fucale and a couple of 2nd round picks would do it.

  27. Mavid says:

    108

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    Weed Wacker – and Flamethrower Grandma Smurf

  28. haloracer18 says:

    Habs management made the same decision Tampa made when they let Drouin go. They chose to keep Benn due to the expansion draft, over Beaulieu. Not too difficult to figure that out. Beaulieu would have been taken easily. Now it looks like it’s going to be Carr.
    He was outplayed by Benn, so that’s the decision and it’s a good one. What is tough to accept is the 3rd round pick in return. Buffalo was really cheap and it looks bad on their GM for trading unfairly. A 2nd round pick would have been more appropriate, or 2 third rounders or 3 later round picks. Who is their GM, dirty dirty dirty.

  29. BigBanana says:

    With these players, Radulov included, they should easily make the playoffs, for the next 3 years.

    Pactioretty may be 7 mil, that is a raise of 2.5 mil.
    Price gets 9 (I do not think it will be more than that) that is 2.5 mil.
    Rads or any free agent gets 6 mil. (that is what they paid last year)

    Pleks and Markov will be gone or retired, so money is just being transferred around. If anything, Marc has done well with cap management.

    But for me, this may be a fast line up, but they are small. A few injuries and they are back to being at the bottom. Size matters…

    • CHesterfield says:

      Nope. Since Cole, captain Max did so 5x 30plus goals. That and captain, dude is plus player on PK since shite on. He is Damphuis traded or keeps. The world! Something useful c!

  30. Forum Dog says:

    Bwoar, Dipsy, D-Mex:

    You guys talking about Petry > Nate, management not having anything to do with it, it’s only the player.

    Petry at 24 was 108 games in, had 30 points and was a -19. Three years later, with another 208 games, 51 points and -50, MTL signs him for 6 years and $33M.

    Nate Beaulieu, at 24, was 228 games in, had 60 points, and was a +19. Habs have control, but they trade him for a 3rd rounder and everyone maligns him for his poor character. And the scratch in the playoffs was surprising to pretty much everybody, no? Maybe not. I was surprised though. I could give two shits about Davidson. He already makes more than Beaulieu and is another throwaway from another team. He will be nothing for this organization, just like Nesterov.

    You build a team with young guys that you develop and let lead. Yet this management team seems focused on grabbing other teams castoffs and making them the core. I ask myself why. IMO, Beaulieu was equally as good as Petry last year, is 5 years younger, and makes 1/5 of what Petry makes. Why trade him for something only slightly better than nothing? Was N8 really as terrible as you make him out to be? Is there no more ceiling there? I think Buffalo got a good deal. If he is as bad as you seem to think, they are out nothing. If he develops as steadily as I think he may, a legit 2nd pairing guy for a third rounder is a gravy.

    • Steven Finn says:

      It was a well known fact to everyone that Beaulieu was on the market. It’s called supply and demand. If another team would have valued Nate more than Buffalo they would offered more than their 3rd round pick.
      They didn’t. End of story…..

      • BigBanana says:

        I truly believe there were off ice issues with Nate. I would have liked him more time on the 1st line, and agree that you build with the guys you draft.

      • BigBanana says:

        I truly believe there were off ice issues with Nate. I would have liked him to be on the 1st line, and agree that you build with the guys you draft.

        Even if he is on the 2nd pair. Its Buffalo, they aren’t going anywhere. Not many playoff teams had a Nate on them, overall playoff teams have better players.

        • Steven Finn says:

          I agree that good teams build with their top draft picks.
          Habs need to improve their drafting or developing, or both there’s no doubt about it.

          But regardless of how Beaulieu was acquired the rest of the league and their scouting staffs didn’t value Nathan to be worth more than a 3rd round pick……

      • Forum Dog says:

        Most teams did not have room to protect a Beaulieu. MTL and Buffalo did. MTL chose not too and sold him for a 3rd. Buffalo saw an opportunity to acquire a potential keeper for a song. Time will tell, but there certainly were not 30 teams capable or interested in bidding for Beaulieu.

        Habs:

        Weber
        Petry
        Benn

        Sabres:

        Ristolainen
        McCabe
        Beaulieu

        For another year, Habs keepers may be better. Beyond that, I think it goes to Sabres.

    • CHesterfield says:

      Bah! Not endow world or something judgement on gm. Message, ridiculous to team… ‘not winning’ how ’bout we take your job dumb ex d? Team is fine sorry. I do not think team likes #27. What are you gonna do!?

    • D Mex says:

      Huh ?
      Don’t recall comparing Petry and Beaulieu,
      or posting any comment this year about Petry.

      Comments about Beaulieu’s brain-gas ?
      Right here / pleased he’s gone.
      Unfortunate he wasn’t packaged with Pacioretty.

    • Coach K says:

      Agree totally FD.

      He must have really pi$$ed off management or his new coach because he was already superior to Petry and Benn in every way.

      If there was any truth to the alleged “character” issues it’s up to management and his coach to work with the kid and “coach” him through it as he matures.

      Sometimes the player refuses to learn. Fair enough. But to give up that early on someone who will be an NHL 3/4 defenceman is just a waste of talent and speaks to a certain laziness on the part of management; who seem to be abdicating their responsibility to teach.

      Not enough patience. Take the easy way out and get rid of him instead. No wonder they can’t develop any talent in this organnization!

      -Adversity Does Not Build Character…it Reveals it-
      (James Lane Allen)

      • Cal says:

        I think Beaulieu decided to tell them to shove it. There is no meritocracy on the Habs. If you are a younger player, you’re supposed to eat the bs they shovel you as far as ice time and pairings go, even if you are better than the players who are “ahead” of you.

  31. Le Revenant says:

    “He’s a good player…”

    “They’re all good players…”

    Jim Benning, while being interviewed by James Duthie on the coming Entry Draft.

    ———————————————————————–
    Liberate Alex Galchenyuk, CH’s Great Middle Hope! Occupy Claude Julien’s office!

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  32. DipsyDoodler says:

    Come on! Why are you worried about Radulov’s term? These are the lines for next year.

    Drouin-Galchenyuk-Lehkonen

    Pacioretty-Danault-Radulov

    Gallagher-Plekanec-Byron

    Shaw-Mitchell-McCarron

    If you don’t look forward to that lineup you probably put pineapple on pizza and think the Leafs are looking good for a cup run next year.

    —–

    • Le Revenant says:

      I look at our Top 6 centres and I want to throw up.

      The Leafs are a young and exciting team that are fun to watch. If they make the playoffs, I wouldn’t mind at all. If they unload that insect Nazem Kadri, and the thug Leo Komarov, I’d have no problem at all liking that team.

      Claims that I would put pineapple and pizza together are fighting words.

      • Steven Finn says:

        Oh, a closet leaf fan eh?

        That’s probably why you hold a grudge against me.
        Afraid I was going to rough up your boy Wendy Clark or crash your favourite goaler Allan Bester?
        Boy oh boy I sure enjoyed playing against those bums. It was a sure win. There was no one on that team that scared me and I even scored a couple goals against that sad sack of an organization…….

        • CHesterfield says:

          Bah! Rockin the boat of west coast guy against TO not fun to watch?! Smells of excess. Mid pack, mediocre predictions… SF here we go!Q!

    • BigBanana says:

      Unfortunately…we’re back to being small.
      I do not like pineapple, and the leafs wont make the playoffs

    • Forum Dog says:

      Pineapple on pizza is good; Galchenyuk, Radulov and Drouin all under long-term contract is pretty much a pipe-dream; and while the Leafs are probably not contending next year, they may be closer to MTL than people want to think.

  33. Le Revenant says:

    1) Alex Radulov had a lot of incentive to be a model citizen and great teammate on his ‘prove-it’ one-year contract. Much of that incentive will be removed if we sign him long-term.

    2) He will be 31 when the season starts. We’re not buying five or six seasons of last season’s Radu, we’re investing in an asset whose value is depreciating every year.

    https://hockey-graphs.com/2017/03/23/a-new-look-at-aging-curves-for-nhl-skaters-part-1/

    Investing in Alex is to ignore science and experience and hope that he’s an exceptional case. Jaromir Jagr is still playing at 45, and also, uh, Gordie Howe, so Radu will have an even better season next year, right?

    3) Much of the reasoning, at least by the bloggers and fans, that mitigated Alex’s party-boy reputation and argued that Marc Bergevin was taking a ‘beau risque’ was the fact that he’s now married with a child, that he’d grown up and was now a different person, a changed man.

    Well, the marriage didn’t last that long. His wife returned to Russia in January, and they’re now officially divorced.

    ———————————————————————–
    Liberate Alex Galchenyuk, CH’s Great Middle Hope! Occupy Claude Julien’s office!

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  34. Lord Stanley of Surrey says:

    Wake Me up when We land Malkin.

    ___________________________________________________________________________________
    FREE TIMO!!! …Michael (Timo) had his negative tongue-in-cheek shtick in HIO, but He never was profane and should never have been banned from HIO. If there is any discretion and fair-mindness within the powers that be behind the scenes of HIO, TIMO’s ban should be rescinded immediately. Thank you.

  35. DipsyDoodler says:

    Le Rev: there is no aunt or dog whisperer.

    The original insider was poster Paz, whose neighbor’s son briefly dated Geoff Molson’s dog walker’s yoga teacher. (I hope I have it right.) Good people, by the way. All of them.

    Remember the time he broke the news that Molson prefers the team to qualify for the playoffs?

    —–

  36. piter says:

    Vegas Golden Showers.
    It’s too easy not to.

  37. PK says:

    I would be very happy if Vegas took Pleks or Emelin.
    Throw in an enticement like Davidson or two tickets to Cirque du Soleil; anything to dump the financial albatrosses that MB is fond of collecting.

    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    “Une équipe de hockey sur glace de l’île de Mont-Royal va gagner la Coupe de Lord Stanley à 24 reprises dans le 20e siècle et trois fois au cours du 21e siècle.”

    – Nostradamus, 1552

  38. smiler2729 says:

    VGK, ugly uniforms, stupid place for a team, Bettman is an idiot

    _______________________________________
    Leafs blow…
    Jack Edwards is a clam…
    Gary Bettman is a bobblehead…
    Tomas Plekanec, since 2008, “I played like a little girl out there”

  39. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Reading all the possibilities for what might happen with the Habs and they all make sense…nothing is going to surprise me.

    At this point all that counts is that they don’t sign Rads.

    • chilli says:

      I’m guessing you think that because of the perceived term Radu is asking for?
      I get it. But what are we waiting for, we don’t have prospects coming up.
      So he sucks his last 2 years. We will be rebuilding then anyway.

      Without Rads, we are THE most boring team in the NHL and I’d rather have Radu, Drouin, and Chucky moving the puck around then Shaw, Gallagher, Danault and Max banging it off each others shin pads.

      Would you take him for 5?

      Either way, we are not winning the cup with our center position (said the same thing last year after the PK trade), so I’d like to have a fun team to watch.

      • Phil C says:

        I’d go 4 easily, 5 if that’s what it took. His style of play is not dependant on blazing speed, and he doesn’t seem to have as many miles on him compared to other guys his age. They only play 50 games over there instead of 80. Even at a 5 year contract, at the end he would be about the same age as Vrbata, Burrows, Williams, Joel Ward.

  40. Captain aHab says:

    If Pleks is the guy picked, I wonder if MB will be looking for a C or if he’ll go with Drouin and Danault as #1 and #2.

    —————-
    Drop da puck already!


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