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Montreal police have launched an official investigation into Tuesday night’s violent hit on Habs forward Max Pacioretty.
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bettman has other things on his money grabbing mind today. like stealing more money for himself in phoenix today and blocking another move of the team to winnipeg. the same scumbag who stopped blackberry billionaire balsillie because of balsillies lebanese origins.
bellglobemedia owns tsn – sportsnet is owned by rogers! pot calling the kettle black!
looks like you are changing your stance,
grasping at different matters all together,
changing the original issues at discussion.
you are not worth another breath or post, big L
you are clueless for sure there sharp one.
NHL concluded their investigation by Mike Murphy, bla. bla, bla,
do you not realize , NOBODY contacted Max Pac from the NHL! HOW can you have an investigation, and you do not even to speak to the victim.
The NHL is so stupid, it’s beyond reason,
Bruins uttered repeated threats, Lucic ran a player into the turnbuckle a few days prio to Zdeno doing it.
If you don’t see the multitude of avenues that can be pursued you truly are not very bright
“Tuesday night in Montreal, Chara crossed that line into scumbag territory, he is no better than Trevor Gillies, Matt Cooke, Todd Bertuzzi or Sean Avery…”
Couldn’t agree more Smiler.
“Thank you Cammy for making my day even more amazing!”
I STILL BELIEVE. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE.
Cammalleri: “I almost feel bad for a guy who plays an NHL career without experiencing what it’s like to be a Montreal Canadien”.
Thanks Ian for the Info on the NHL head office.
This has caused me to lose my mind. The reports of hundreds of people calling the police to report a crime seems very sane. Listening to Jeff Marek on Team 1040 in Vancouver last night made me very angry – turning the radio on and off, and on and off to listen to the fool.
My normally poorly written coments and tweets are now more off.
I will be visiting NHL Head Offices next time in Toronto.
Clean it up from the top down, we have to use the courts. Stand up for our youth and society, save a life and make a difference.
Stand up and send your complaints, save a life.!
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mark spetor on sportsnet
“Air Canada, conveniently headquartered in Montreal, is threatening to pull league sponsorship dollars. Political opportunists — who won’t give money for new rinks, but will tell the NHL how to run its business — are dragging the game into the House of Commons”
hey Mark….how convenient that the leagues disciplinarian’s son “conveniently” plays for hr Bruins???? oh but he didn;t make the decision lol …yeah right..he had noooothing to do with it..
Let’s all agree to stop referring to tis as a “hit” …it was not a hit…it was away from the play…it was not a “hit”,
I wonder how long it will be before someone actually does the unthinkable and call out Campbell’s office as Lucic also somehow escaped suspension despite everyone thinking he should have goptten one…Bruins seem to get preferential treatment…we already have an email with Campbell whining to refs? I actually defended him on that but I was questioning myself after the first HAbs/Bruins war, then really questioning myself after Lucic’s crosscheck he got away with last week…..now this? when will someone wiht an audience draw attentuion to this ngelected fact. Everyone is now willing to dismiss the “emotions” and turning a blind eye to very relevant info like the players history with one another, Campbell and his son, etc…..these are all very real factors……factors that are impossible to prove but in any case of law would still be brought into play or at least attempted to.
When you play a physical game you accept some risk as part of the game, but there are clearly some actions that go beyond what is part of the game and could be criminal. This is not debatable (consider intentionally breaking your stick an then taking out someone’s eye). The question is where to draw the line.
One might argue that an action that does not warrant even a one game suspension cannot be said to have crossed the line. But this would leave where that line is in the hands of people making business decisions.
In retrospect it is not surprising that Chara was not suspended. If they decided to suspend him—even for one game— they would be denying that it was “just an acident”. In this case they would have to suspend a star player and the captain of a team for an extended period of time. It is impossible to think that business considerations would not play a role in such a judgement.
RDS confirms Montreal Police have opened an investigation on the Chara hit on Max Pac:
I dont think the goal judge is still behind the net. I saw a feature on RDS either last season or this, and they actually sit higher up somewhere..
the turnbuckle area is a KNOWN HAZARD which has caused signficant injury
Occupational Health and Safety Law is clear.
EMPLOYERS MUST TAKE ACTION TO ADDRESS KNOWN WORKPLACE HAZARDS.
NHL HAS NOT! They will be found guilty of this offence, could not be any clearer.
OPEN YOUR EYES!
jacobs is bettmans biggest supporter of the owners. he was not going to do anything to the bruins best defenseman in a year they are a contender. END OF STORY.
ontario att-gen mcmurtry went after dino ciccerelli
This is going nowhere. You need to prove intent or something extremely close to it in criminal law. In the cases of Bertuzzi or McSorley that’s easy because swinging fists and sticks to a guys head with resulting injury makes intent to injure easy to prove. In this case the prosecutors have to literally get into Chara’s head. If this were a traffic accident a civil case for negligence would be more appropriate. But because it is sport, players are charged with assumming risk to injury that are inherent in the sport. Ironically, Max Pac would probably have a better civil case against the Habs for negligent design of the rink.
The NHL is corrupt, big money involved. The sophisticated boys at the top of the NHL power house are the new type of Mob. Money at all cost is their action of choice.
first of all – do not call the police, write a letter but do not tie up the phone lines… that’s just not right.
second, as muhc as i now hate chara i do not think the police need to be involved… nothing will come of it so why make it into a circus.
third – i like the idea of corporate sponserships standing up to the NHL… this can make a difference.
hope max gets better fast and can continue his promising career.
That is one of the most pathetic and idiotic things I have heard……………
ONCE A HAB, FOREVER A HAB!!!
280 pound chara was hitting and directing his head, a man WITHOUT the puck into the turnbuckle!
But that has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt [that’s the standard in the U.S. and I’m sure you have a similar one in Canada]. If you cannot get the hockey writers to agree on what they saw how are you going to get a jury to agree?
Question: if the popo get involved with this Chara thing, will they not also get involved when he “accidentally” gets his knee taken out on a similar “hockey play” March 24th?
Think about it. We are usually proud to say that this is the only league that popos itself. Well, we got the SWAT assembled for next game, knowumsayin?
So let’s leave the beat-walkers and desk jockeys out of it, yeah?
Heard this on a telecast 2 weeks ago is it true? Is the Bell Centre the only NHL arena that still has a goal judge sitting BEHIND each net? Only one of the 30 rinks? Was this another change by Bettman? Like adding a 2nd ref? Or both benches on the same side? You know like basketball does with each of these questions?
150% the NHL’s fault. The police would not be involved in our game if the NHL disciplined appropriately.
Bettman and his pathetic disipinary team are destroying our game
Anyone have contact information for Marketing at Tim Horton’s?
This is the email for Marketing at Air Canada – firstname.lastname@example.org, I just sent a quick email thanking them for taking a stand.
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I agree that people should not tie up the police phone lines.
But I like the idea the police and the crown prosecutors are getting involved in this. If the league cannot regulate itself appropriately, the government should be involved and stop any unnecessary violence. The event happened in Montreal, the police has the right to investigate this.
I too am delighted with Air Canada’s threats, but I’m kinda doubtful if the corporations will really take the actions aside from the talks.
While I have no comment regarding the publicity stunts being pulled by several entities, I’m nonetheless glad for them. Their publicity stunts trump the disgusting inaction by the league, and these publicity stunts are going to open up a can of worms that the NHL isn’t going to be able to gently sweep underneath a rug. There -has- to be changes to hitting in this game to ensure player safety, that’s evident to everyone, and the league obviously doesn’t give enough of a shit to do it themselves. I’m glad others are trying to force them to.
Sponsor Tim Horton’s will be notified that the children in my city will not be permitted to wear Tim Bit jersey’s any longer. If they condone this type of assault in our game.
and bettman’s NHL will be sued bigtime by pacioretty’s lawyers real soon!
I have written Tim Hortons and would ask everyone to write asking them to take a stand . We the People…
because hockey writers and talknnig heads on TSN have a vested interest in promoting the game. Not that it would ever go to a jury, but if it did, then you’d have people with no obvious connection to the game deciding.
any reasonable person watching that play can easily see he drove his head into the pole.
the NHL is a joke
Legal considerations as well. If you admit it was an illegal play you perhaps open yourself up to lawsuits.
D’ya know what’s real troubling?
Though I’ve never been a fan of Zdeno Chara, I had to admire his class and sportsmanship on a couple of instances.
First, when he threw around then Toronto Maple Leaf Bryan McCabe like a ragdoll in a fight, he could have really pummelled him and chose the high road.
And second, I forget the poor guy lying beneath him on the ice in another fight incident but Chara actually stopped himself from punching this guy into his next life.
Tuesday night in Montreal, Chara crossed that line into scumbag territory, he is no better than Trevor Gillies, Matt Cooke, Todd Bertuzzi or Sean Avery…
i do not think the police need to be involved… nothing will come of it so why make it into a circus.
Because, in the words of George Costanza, “we’re living in a society”.
But Mike Murphy spent so much time yesterday trying to sweep all of this under the rug. Don’t the police realize the mess they’re going to make?
Go Habs Go!
NHL – “So Zed, did you mean to break his neck and threaten his career?” Zed – “No!” NHL – “Ok, see you tomorrow night”.
2 questions should have been asked and considered prior to letting him off. “Why didn’t you stop and show concern instead of skating off into the corner?” and “Have you made an attempt to contact Max or the organization to show that you really didn’t mean to hurt him?”
Is there really an absense of malice here? Dude at least show you have a heart!!
Because I am a “professional” athlete I am only partially responsable for my actions. I applaud the descision to a criminal investgation where these 2 questions would be asked.
Wow..Mark Spector of Sportsnet argues that it was Pacioretty’s fault….it was his fault for being a thorn in the side of Chara for three games, it was his fault for going along the boards instead of towards the middle, it was his fault for giving Chara the opporutnity for payback and it was his fault for believing the NHL rulebook was going to protect him.
“I am guilty of using elipses…”
With the numerous replays , witnesses and of course the testimony of the victim. A very nice case can be built with the ressources that are available… Also the history between the two players , The score in the game when the hit took place , Iwould love to reprsent Pacioretty if he were to ever sue , I can easily get a jury to agree that the hit was malicious.
So you would actually support someone taking out Chara, gangland style?
You who is offended by four letter words?
The most important aspect of this story may be the attention being brought to the dangers of hockey today. Not just in the professional leagues, but in junior hockey as well.
Starting in junior, coaches and general managers look for the biggest and fastest players available for their team. There was a point in time were you’d see the majority of players floating around, waiting for a turnover and then breaking up the ice. Today, every player is circling around the ice like an F-15 fighter jet waiting to attack.
Just over a decade ago, a guy who was 6’ tall and 195lbs was a sizeable player and now a days that same player is considered small. Guys like Gomez and Wisniewski actually look small out there today.
And then there’s the equipment!!! The damn stuff is body armor!!! I haven’t played organized hockey in quite sometime, golfer and couch potato now, but when I went to get may skates sharpened earlier in the winter I was astonished with the hockey equipment players wear today. You take a tap from an elbow pad and it stings! Imagine a 6’2” 220lbs guy travelling at 30kms hitting you in the chin with that!
Somebody is going to get killed if they don’t change the obstruction rules to slow players down, change the equipment, institute way tougher suspensions and promote respect among players.
SOMEBODY IS GOING TO DIE!!!
I’m kinda hoping the NHL suspends / fines Pacioretty for his comments regarding the hit.
That would be the icing on the cake, and hopefully inspire just enough rage, and resentment towards the NHL that something actually gets done.
Its time for ,a T party …….. comeon everyone talk get your significant other , your contacts anyone who cares to get involved. Let Bettman know , let the sports sponsors know, that enough is enough ,fill that empty feeling in your stomach , channel your rage into action , take back our game from the money changers … We the People …..
Police/ government should investigate Bettman for his fraudulent practices that continue today in Phoenix this time. A question? Why does anyone think Bettman is an honest man?
Allright now werestar talking lets get after Tim HOrtons to take a stand. A great sponsor of minor hockey . We want to hear from them , time to take it out of NHL hands . WE the People …….
I remember when bertuzzi attacked Moore and got suspended the rest of the season and when police got involved i was annoyed and thought that police have no place intervening with what happens on the ice. Today i am glad that police are looking in to the Chara case for one reson and one reason only , The nhl didnt. Im still baffled by people saying the intent was not there , i just dont get it. Chara has got to face some sort of consequnce for his actions and if this is how , so be it.
You know what gets me? Seeing Phoenix/Jets/Nords news. WHO CARES? You have a goddamn unfinished job here. Everything else is irrelevant. Stop with the money garbage and focus on the health of your players.
Why has no one and I mean no one from the Habs organization speak up….
Why can’t we have an owner like Mario who is willing to stand up and be heard, even if it means a fine…
Patches, the fans the city needs to hear someone say something on the record
A man almost died for godsakes!
this angers me more then Chara not beinf suspended…travesty on both fronts
sure the police will make a mess but when your dealing with a giant industry causing them embarrassment is the worst kind of publicity one wants!!!!!!!!! they deserve it its corrupt, its evident, conflict of interest etc.
The fact he blames Pacioretty for the incident is even more enraging.
I thought the same thing of the fact that he just skated away and showed ZERO concern for Max. Pathetic.
when a goon league will not police itself, it must be done by an external source. life is too short and precious to put it in the hands of the rich fat white man.
an old classmate of mine decided to become a teacher and teach at our old high school… shockingly enough, her mother (the principall) stepped down. what a concept, eh?
campbell must be the poster boy for chunky chicken soup
same ball of wax – airhead! jacobs=bettman=phoenix=nords-not, jets-not and MONEY and that is how bettmans co-businessman, jacobs built his team of goons
(Bell Canada) is also a sponsor. I do not have a link or name to their head office CEO yet.
Stand up and save the lives of our youth and clean up our game and the corruption in the NHL.
Please…… I hate seeing Pac’s out as much as everyone else, and also thing Chara should have gotten something, but this is bogus. And to “open my eyes”, I think you may want to do so as I am sure you would be the same person saying it was bogus if it was Licic on the ground after being laid out by Cammy…
Get a life
I don’t know if they will speak up, but they are right not to speak officially while it is still an emotional issue.
Nonetheless, if they never address it I will be disappointed.
Well, he said he was disappointed he couldn’t finish the game.
I was wondering… Should the NHL be the target for the lawsuit too? I mean that the desicion they made to “allow” this kind of actions is a very questionable. If the management says it’s ok to do something illegal, they should be the ones to answer it too…
First thing that pops in to my mind about the lawsuits is the possibility to start a “Neverendingstory” of lawsuits after lawsuits in every game… (Sorry for my poor english, but I’m still too pissed to find better words and write more correctly)
Anyways, I feel it was ridiculous and cowardly done job by the NHL. Even the news-sites in Finland don’t tolerate it.
LOL – it’s Tim Horton’s – I’m using my business voice – Glenn Hollis is the Head of Advertising. I only got thught to his admin assistant named Lynn. Left a message.
Like your thinking on this Ian.
Better yet, I haven’t heard you pushing for an investigation for the hit to Sid’s head or for the police to do something with Cooke… Oh, yeah, forgot, that doesn’t affect the Habs so is not worth it…..
Not at all. (“gangland style”??? exaggerate much, mate?) I would never support that.
All I’m sayin is “accidents” happen. Like the other night for example. And if one should happen next time on a “hockey play”, how can you lay blame?
actually, we may be on the same page here after all.. It’s MONTREAL’s fault for this and an investigation should not be taken towards Chara as it’s the team’s responsibility for this….
And for not being worth another post, you have been the idiot writing back to me so take it easy there d##khead.
yes they are up in the press box area above the ice and probably why it takes spo long for the red light to come on as they seem to wait until they see one of the TWO refs POINT into the net. BUT if say the other ref blocked from view by the players or bad angle loses sight of the FREE puck he blows his whistle. but i asked what the announcer said- he dsaid montreal is only rink that still has goal judge behind the net? all these above moves made by the 5 rfoot dwarf bettman who grew up on new york or brooklyn streets. he has no clue about anything but money. especially hockey or basketballl either where he was not tall enough to be able to use the grownups toilets.
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