Update: Police to investigate Chara hit on Pacioretty

Montreal police have launched an official investigation into Tuesday night’s violent hit on Habs forward Max Pacioretty.

Read more about this here.

Pacioretty a few millimetres from paralysis: Gazette’s Catherine Solyom


  1. observer says:

    bettman has other things on his money grabbing mind today. like stealing more money for himself in phoenix today and blocking another move of the team to winnipeg. the same scumbag who stopped blackberry billionaire balsillie because of balsillies lebanese origins.

  2. observer says:

    bellglobemedia owns tsn – sportsnet is owned by rogers! pot calling the kettle black!

  3. habsruleworld says:

    looks like you are changing your stance,

    grasping at different matters all together,

    changing the original issues at discussion.

    you are not worth another breath or post,  big L

  4. habsruleworld says:

    you are clueless for sure there  sharp one.

    NHL concluded their investigation by Mike Murphy, bla. bla, bla,

    do you not realize , NOBODY contacted Max Pac from the NHL! HOW can you have an investigation, and you do not even to speak to the victim.

    The NHL is so stupid, it’s beyond reason,

    Bruins uttered repeated threats, Lucic ran a player into the turnbuckle a few days prio to Zdeno doing it.

    If you don’t see the multitude of avenues that can be pursued you truly are not very bright

  5. HugeHabsFan says:

    “Tuesday night in Montreal, Chara crossed that line into scumbag territory, he is no better than Trevor Gillies, Matt Cooke, Todd Bertuzzi or Sean Avery…”

    Couldn’t agree more Smiler.


    “Thank you Cammy for making my day even more amazing!”


    Cammalleri: “I almost feel bad for a guy who plays an NHL career without experiencing what it’s like to be a Montreal Canadien”.

  6. Jbird says:

    Thanks Ian for the Info on the NHL head office.

  7. Jbird says:


    This has caused me to lose my mind.  The reports of hundreds of people calling the police to report a crime seems very sane.  Listening to Jeff Marek on Team 1040 in Vancouver last night made me very angry – turning the radio on and off, and on and off to listen to the fool. 

    My normally poorly written coments and tweets are now more off. 

    I will be visiting NHL Head Offices next time in Toronto. 

  8. Ian Cobb says:

    Clean it up from the top down, we have to use the courts. Stand up for our youth and society, save a life and make a difference.

    Stand up and send your complaints, save a life.!

    NHL HEAD OFFICE –Fax# 212-789-2020

    e-mail gbettman@nhl.com

    Tm Horton’s  sponsor—Our youth wear Tim Bit Jerseys. Does Horton’s condone the violence in hockey?

    Head Office
    874 Sinclair Road
    Oakville, ON L6K 2Y1
    Tel: (905) 845-6511
    Fax: (905) 845-0265

  9. krob1000 says:

    mark spetor on sportsnet

    “Air Canada, conveniently headquartered in Montreal, is threatening to pull league sponsorship dollars. Political opportunists — who won’t give money for new rinks, but will tell the NHL how to run its business — are dragging the game into the House of Commons”


    hey Mark….how convenient that the leagues disciplinarian’s son “conveniently” plays for hr Bruins???? oh but he didn;t make the decision lol …yeah right..he had noooothing to do with it..

  10. krob1000 says:

    Let’s all agree to stop referring to tis as a “hit” …it was not a hit…it was away from the play…it was not a “hit”,

    I wonder how long it will be before someone actually does the unthinkable and call out Campbell’s office as Lucic also somehow escaped suspension despite everyone thinking he should have goptten one…Bruins seem to get preferential treatment…we already have an email with Campbell whining to refs? I actually defended him on that but I was questioning myself after the first HAbs/Bruins war, then really questioning myself after Lucic’s crosscheck he got away with last week…..now this? when will someone wiht an audience draw attentuion to this ngelected fact.  Everyone is now willing to dismiss the “emotions” and turning a blind eye to very relevant info like the players history with one another, Campbell and his son, etc…..these are all very real factors……factors that are impossible to prove but in any case of law would still be brought into play or at least attempted to.

  11. aversglay says:

    When you play a physical game you accept some risk as part of the game, but there are clearly some actions that go beyond what is part of the game and could be criminal. This is not debatable (consider intentionally breaking your stick an then taking out someone’s eye). The question is where to draw the line.

    One might argue that an action that does not warrant even a one game suspension cannot be said to have crossed the line. But this would leave where that line is in the hands of people making business decisions.

    In retrospect it is not surprising that Chara was not suspended. If they decided to suspend him—even for one game— they would be denying that it was “just an acident”. In this case they would have to suspend a star player and the captain of a team for an extended period of time. It is impossible to think that business considerations would not play a role in such a judgement.

  12. Tag says:

    RDS confirms Montreal Police have opened an investigation on the Chara hit on Max Pac:




  13. Psycho29 says:

    I dont think the goal judge is still behind the net. I saw a feature on RDS either last season or this, and they actually sit higher up somewhere..

  14. habsruleworld says:

    the turnbuckle area is a KNOWN HAZARD which has caused signficant injury

    Occupational Health and Safety Law is clear.




    NHL HAS NOT! They will be found guilty of this offence, could not be any clearer.



  15. observer says:

    jacobs is bettmans biggest supporter of the owners. he was not going to do anything to the bruins best defenseman in a year they are a contender. END OF STORY.

  16. habsruleworld says:

    the turnbuckle area is a KNOWN HAZARD which has caused signficant injury

    Occupational Health and Safety Law is clear.




    NHL HAS NOT! They will be found guilty of this offence, could not be any clearer.



  17. observer says:

    ontario att-gen mcmurtry went after dino ciccerelli

  18. longtimehabsfan says:

    This is going nowhere.  You need to prove intent or something extremely close to it in criminal law.  In the cases of Bertuzzi or McSorley that’s easy because swinging fists and sticks to a guys head with resulting injury makes intent to injure easy to prove.  In this case the prosecutors have to literally get into Chara’s head.  If this were a traffic accident a civil case for negligence would be more appropriate.  But because it is sport, players are charged with assumming risk to injury that are inherent in the sport.  Ironically, Max Pac would probably have a better civil case against the Habs for negligent design of the rink.

  19. Ian Cobb says:

    The NHL is corrupt, big money involved. The sophisticated boys at the top of the NHL power house are the new type of Mob. Money at all cost is their action of choice.

    Clean it up from the top down, we have to use the courts. Stand up for our youth and society, save a life and make a difference.

    Stand up and send your complaints, save a life.!

    NHL HEAD OFFICE –Fax# 212-789-2020

    e-mail gbettman@nhl.com

    Tm Horton’s  sponsor—Our youth wear Tim Bit Jerseys. Does Horton’s condone the violence in hockey?

    Head Office
    874 Sinclair Road
    Oakville, ON L6K 2Y1
    Tel: (905) 845-6511
    Fax: (905) 845-0265

  20. 123456 says:

    first of all – do not call the police, write a letter but do not tie up the phone lines… that’s just not right.

    second, as muhc as i now hate chara i do not think the police need to be involved… nothing will come of it so why make it into a circus.

    third – i like the idea of corporate sponserships standing up to the NHL… this can make a difference.

    hope max gets better fast and can continue his promising career.

  21. Habsman1970 says:


    That is one of the most pathetic and idiotic things I have heard……………   



  22. observer says:

    280 pound chara was hitting and directing his head, a man WITHOUT the puck into the turnbuckle!

  23. longtimehabsfan says:

    But that has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt [that’s the standard in the U.S. and I’m sure you have a similar one in Canada].  If you cannot get the hockey writers to agree on what they saw how are you going to get a jury to agree?

  24. Bugs says:

    Question: if the popo get involved with this Chara thing, will they not also get involved when he “accidentally” gets his knee taken out on a similar “hockey play” March 24th?

    Think about it. We are usually proud to say that this is the only league that popos itself. Well, we got the SWAT assembled for next game, knowumsayin?

    So let’s leave the beat-walkers and desk jockeys out of it, yeah?

  25. observer says:

    Heard this on a telecast 2 weeks ago is it true? Is the Bell Centre the only NHL arena that still has a goal judge sitting BEHIND each net? Only one of the 30 rinks? Was this another change by Bettman? Like adding a 2nd ref? Or both benches on the same side? You know like basketball does with each of these questions?

  26. Kooch7800 says:

    150% the NHL’s fault.  The police would not be involved in our game if the NHL disciplined appropriately.

    Bettman and his pathetic disipinary team are destroying our game

  27. Rudy says:

    Anyone have contact information for Marketing at Tim Horton’s?

    This is the email for Marketing at Air Canada – denis.vandal@aircanada.ca, I just sent a quick email thanking them for taking a stand.

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  28. blu3chip says:

    I agree that people should not tie up the police phone lines.

    But I like the idea the police and the crown prosecutors are getting involved in this. If the league cannot regulate itself appropriately, the government should be involved and stop any unnecessary violence. The event happened in Montreal, the police has the right to investigate this.

    I too am delighted with Air Canada’s threats, but I’m kinda doubtful if the corporations will really take the actions aside from the talks.

  29. InGaineyWeTrust says:

    While I have no comment regarding the publicity stunts being pulled by several entities, I’m nonetheless glad for them. Their publicity stunts trump the disgusting inaction by the league, and these publicity stunts are going to open up a can of worms that the NHL isn’t going to be able to gently sweep underneath a rug. There -has- to be changes to hitting in this game to ensure player safety, that’s evident to everyone, and the league obviously doesn’t give enough of a shit to do it themselves. I’m glad others are trying to force them to.

  30. Ian Cobb says:

    Sponsor Tim Horton’s will be notified that the children in my city will not be permitted to wear Tim Bit jersey’s any longer. If they condone this type of assault in our game.

    Head Office
    874 Sinclair Road
    Oakville, ON L6K 2Y1
    Tel: (905) 845-6511
    Fax: (905) 845-0265

  31. observer says:

    and bettman’s NHL will be sued bigtime by pacioretty’s lawyers real soon!

  32. matrags says:

    I have written Tim Hortons and would ask everyone to write asking them to take a stand . We the People…

  33. HalifaxHabs says:

    because hockey writers and talknnig heads on TSN have a vested interest in promoting the game. Not that it would ever go to a jury, but if it did, then you’d have people with no obvious connection to the game deciding.

    any reasonable person watching that play can easily see he drove his head into the pole.

    the NHL is a joke

  34. HabFanSince72 says:


    Legal considerations as well. If you admit it was an illegal play you perhaps open yourself up to lawsuits.

  35. smiler2729 says:

    D’ya know what’s real troubling?

    Though I’ve never been a fan of Zdeno Chara, I had to admire his class and sportsmanship on a couple of instances. 

    First, when he threw around then Toronto Maple Leaf Bryan McCabe like a ragdoll in a fight, he could have really pummelled him and chose the high road.

    And second, I forget the poor guy lying beneath him on the ice in another fight incident but Chara actually stopped himself from punching this guy into his next life.

    Tuesday night in Montreal, Chara crossed that line into scumbag territory, he is no better than Trevor Gillies, Matt Cooke, Todd Bertuzzi or Sean Avery…

  36. HabFanSince72 says:

    i do not think the police need to be involved… nothing will come of it so why make it into a circus.

    Because, in the words of George Costanza, “we’re living in a society”.

  37. RGM says:

    But Mike Murphy spent so much time yesterday trying to sweep all of this under the rug. Don’t the police realize the mess they’re going to make?

    Go Habs Go!

  38. frobasher says:

    NHL – “So Zed, did you mean to break his neck and threaten his career?” Zed – “No!” NHL – “Ok, see you tomorrow night”.

    2 questions should have been asked and considered prior to letting him off. “Why didn’t you stop and show concern instead of skating off into the corner?” and “Have you made an attempt to contact Max or the organization to show that you really didn’t mean to hurt him?”

    Is there really an absense of malice here? Dude at least show you have a heart!!

    Because I am a “professional” athlete I am only partially responsable for my actions. I applaud the descision to a criminal investgation where these 2 questions would be asked.

  39. forskis says:

    Wow..Mark Spector of Sportsnet argues that it was Pacioretty’s fault….it was his fault for being a thorn in the side of Chara for three games, it was his fault for going along the boards instead of towards the middle, it was his fault for giving Chara the opporutnity for payback and it was his fault for believing the NHL rulebook was going to protect him.

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  40. habs4ever2894 says:

    With the numerous replays , witnesses and of course the testimony of the victim. A very nice case can be built with the ressources that are available… Also the history between the two players , The score in the game when the hit took place , Iwould love to reprsent Pacioretty if he were to ever sue , I can easily get a jury to agree that the hit was malicious.

  41. HabFanSince72 says:

    So you would actually support someone taking out Chara, gangland style?

    You who is offended by four letter words?


  42. Hobie Hansen says:

    The most important aspect of this story may be the attention being brought to the dangers of hockey today. Not just in the professional leagues, but in junior hockey as well.

    Starting in junior, coaches and general managers look for the biggest and fastest players available for their team. There was a point in time were you’d see the majority of players floating around, waiting for a turnover and then breaking up the ice. Today, every player is circling around the ice like an F-15 fighter jet waiting to attack.

    Just over a decade ago, a guy who was 6’ tall and 195lbs was a sizeable player and now a days that same player is considered small. Guys like Gomez and Wisniewski actually look small out there today.

    And then there’s the equipment!!! The damn stuff is body armor!!! I haven’t played organized hockey in quite sometime, golfer and couch potato now, but when I went to get may skates sharpened earlier in the winter I was astonished with the hockey equipment players wear today. You take a tap from an elbow pad and it stings! Imagine a 6’2” 220lbs guy travelling at 30kms hitting you in the chin with that!

    Somebody is going to get killed if they don’t change the obstruction rules to slow players down, change the equipment, institute way tougher suspensions and promote respect among players.


  43. nick says:

    I’m kinda hoping the NHL suspends / fines Pacioretty for his comments regarding the hit.

    That would be the icing on the cake, and hopefully inspire just enough rage, and resentment towards the NHL that something actually gets done.

  44. matrags says:

    Its time for ,a T party …….. comeon everyone talk get your significant other , your contacts anyone who cares to get involved. Let Bettman know , let the sports sponsors know, that enough is enough ,fill that empty feeling in your stomach , channel your rage into action , take back our game from the money changers … We the People …..

  45. observer says:

    Police/ government should investigate Bettman for his fraudulent practices that continue today in Phoenix this time. A question? Why does anyone think Bettman is an honest man?

  46. matrags says:

    Allright now werestar  talking lets get after Tim HOrtons to take a stand. A great sponsor of minor hockey . We want to hear from them , time to take it out of NHL hands . WE the People …….

  47. habs4ever2894 says:

    I remember when bertuzzi attacked Moore and got suspended the rest of the season and when police got involved i was annoyed and thought that police have no place intervening with what happens on the ice. Today i am glad that police are looking in to the Chara case for one reson and one reason only , The nhl didnt. Im still baffled by people saying the intent was not there , i just dont get it. Chara has got to face some sort of consequnce for his actions and if this is how , so be it.

  48. avatar_58 says:

    You know what gets me? Seeing Phoenix/Jets/Nords news. WHO CARES? You have a goddamn unfinished job here. Everything else is irrelevant. Stop with the money garbage and focus on the health of your players.

  49. lenny says:

    Why has no one and I mean no one from the Habs organization speak up….

    Why can’t we have an owner like Mario who is willing to stand up and be heard, even if it means a fine…

    Patches, the fans the city needs to hear someone say something on the record

    A man almost died for godsakes!

    this angers me more then Chara not beinf suspended…travesty on both fronts

  50. Ton says:

    sure the police will make a mess but when your dealing with a giant industry causing them embarrassment is the worst kind of publicity one wants!!!!!!!!! they deserve it its corrupt, its evident, conflict of interest etc. 

  51. forskis says:

    The fact he blames Pacioretty for the incident is even more enraging.

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  52. HugeHabsFan says:

    I thought the same thing of the fact that he just skated away and showed ZERO concern for Max.  Pathetic.


    “Thank you Cammy for making my day even more amazing!”


    Cammalleri: “I almost feel bad for a guy who plays an NHL career without experiencing what it’s like to be a Montreal Canadien”.

  53. HabsFaith says:

    when a goon league will not police itself, it must be done by an external source.  life is too short and precious to put it in the hands of the rich fat white man.

    an old classmate of mine decided to become a teacher and teach at our old high school… shockingly enough, her mother (the principall) stepped down.  what a concept, eh?

    campbell must be the poster boy for chunky chicken soup

  54. observer says:

    same ball of wax – airhead! jacobs=bettman=phoenix=nords-not, jets-not and MONEY and that is how bettmans co-businessman, jacobs built his team of goons

  55. Ian Cobb says:

    (Bell Canada) is also a sponsor. I do not have a link or name to their head office CEO yet.

    Stand up and save the lives of our youth and clean up our game and the corruption in the NHL.

  56. Habsman1970 says:

    Please……  I hate seeing Pac’s out as much as everyone else, and also thing Chara should have gotten something, but this is bogus.  And to “open my eyes”, I think you may want to do so as I am sure you would be the same person saying it was bogus if it was Licic on the ground after being laid out by Cammy…  


    Get a life



  57. HabFanSince72 says:

    I don’t know if they will speak up, but they are right not to speak officially while it is still an emotional issue.

    Nonetheless, if they never address it I will be disappointed.



  58. HabFanSince72 says:

    Well, he said he was disappointed he couldn’t finish the game.


  59. J.J. of Turku says:

    I was wondering… Should the NHL be the target for the lawsuit too? I mean that the desicion they made to “allow” this kind of actions is a very questionable. If the management says it’s ok to do something illegal, they should be the ones to answer it too… 

    First thing that pops in to my mind about the lawsuits is the possibility to start a “Neverendingstory” of lawsuits after lawsuits in every game… (Sorry for my poor english, but I’m still too pissed to find better words and write more correctly)

    Anyways, I feel it was ridiculous and cowardly done job by the NHL. Even the news-sites in Finland don’t tolerate it.

  60. Jbird says:

    LOL – it’s Tim Horton’s – I’m using my business voice – Glenn Hollis is the Head of Advertising.  I only got thught to his admin assistant named Lynn.  Left a message.

    Like your thinking on this Ian. 

  61. Habsman1970 says:

    Better yet, I haven’t heard you pushing for an investigation for the hit to Sid’s head or for the police to do something with Cooke…  Oh, yeah, forgot, that doesn’t affect the Habs so is not worth it….. 



  62. Bugs says:

    Not at all. (“gangland style”??? exaggerate much, mate?) I would never support that.

    All I’m sayin is “accidents” happen. Like the other night for example. And if one should happen next time on a “hockey play”, how can you lay blame?

  63. Habsman1970 says:

    actually, we may be on the same page here after all.. It’s MONTREAL’s fault for this and an investigation should not be taken towards Chara as it’s the team’s responsibility for this….  


    And for not being worth another post, you have been the idiot writing back to me so take it easy there d##khead. 



  64. observer says:

    yes they are up in the press box area above the ice and probably why it takes spo long for the red light to come on as they seem to wait until they see one of the TWO refs POINT into the net. BUT if say the other ref blocked from view by the players or bad angle loses sight of the FREE puck he blows his whistle. but i asked what the announcer said- he dsaid montreal is only rink that still has goal judge behind the net? all these above moves made by the 5 rfoot dwarf bettman who grew up on new york or brooklyn streets. he has no clue about anything but money. especially hockey or basketballl either where he was not tall enough to be able to use the grownups toilets.

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  66. BruinsFan91 says:

    First time a Montreal player gets a double minor for high sticking and cuts someones face Im calling the police for assault with a deadly weapon. And my spelling is just fine.

  67. Habs4Lyfe says:

    Habs 4 Lyfe



    GeorgesLaraque After hearing from Max Pacioretty that Chara was holding him down and Max couldn’t get out of the way, it changes everything, bad ruling!


    MaxPac told BGL that Chara was holding him down…way to get both sides of the story Mike Murphy…



  68. SPATS says:



    It’s all here from a different angle. At 1:24 on this clip    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zq7b6QhVdA&feature=aso   you’ll see the hit from Carey’s pont of view. Very obvious Chara knew where they were on the ice, and who he was engaged with. Even the NESN Bruins commentators acknowledge Chara was in the wrong to finish this check. To say that their history was not a part of this is simply ridiculous. Watch and listen to the NESN guys describe Chara as he’s 3rd man in and hunting for Pacioretty in this video at 1:27     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQFX3WaX0Ek  His intention was to get revenge but he’d have to wait another couple of weeks…  you can’t claim it was unfortunate. You meant to do what you did Chara.

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  71. PuckHead72 says:

    I forget…did the Quebec prosecutor open an investigation when Pacioretty took 15 strides and crushed Marc Eaton from behind into the boards? I must have missed that one. I’m sure it happened though. I forget all the whining coming from Montreal about player safety when it happened…oh wait, there was none. How do you say hypocrite in French? Anyone?…Anyone?

  72. adesbarats says:

    If the NHL had suspended Chara I doubt this investigation would have happened. But when the NHL fails to take effective action, this is what happens. People, organizations, groups start standing up, taking notice and saying “ok, we’ll do something”. I’m glad they are investigating. I doubt it will go anywhere but it will at least make someone like Chara think twice next time. That is what I was hoping for through a suspension and that is why the NHL really dropped the ball on this..

  73. Geoff F says:

    Back to my original comment winning in the playoffs is ALL THAT MATTERS.

    How’s the change working for you over the last 100 years? Head shots down? Nope?
    Injuries declining? Nope?
    Respect up? Nope

    Yes everyone will aim to be faster and more skilled than the Habs or Red Wings etc… and those that can’t compete on pure skill will need to become more….TRUCULENT to compensate or push them over the top. The mindset hasn’t changed since the broadstreet bullies and it doesn’t look like change is happening now either.

    At the rate it’s going it’s going to take eons and they’ll call it evolution. Either way, i wont be around to see it sadly!

  74. bigdave says:




    Send it to the guy who wrote the NHL!




    “The Allo Police Media – a collection of bitter ex-coaches, players and wannabees whose collective lack of success accounts for their present positions in Sports’ equivalent of the Jerry Springer Show”

  75. habfan53 says:

    Of course he thinks we are that stupid. He thinks that we don’t notice these injuries don’t happen in the playoffs (unless Pronger is involved).

  76. habfan53 says:

    No They would have to wait then not renew. As for Bettman “barely registering the complaint” does that suprise you . Air Canada in a CANADIAN sponsor yes I know they are international but the are a Canadian company.

    Remember Bettman became commionner on February 1st in just over 3years (39 months) Canada lost the Jets and Norniques. If he had fought as hard for either team as he is for Phoenix the league would be better off.

  77. shiram says:

    That’s saying something for mister neanderthal.

  78. Rush says:

    News of the police investigation made Drudge –





    Wishing you Godspeed in your recovery, Max Pac…  

  79. Chuck says:


    So what he’s saying is that even though it’s his job to know who he’s lining up against, that he didn’t know that Patches was on the ice. Sounds like he’s trying to deflect criticism against him that the hit was premeditated. And of course, if it WASN’T premeditated, why would he try to defend it in such a way?

  80. Miltie01 says:

    You didn’t think he was going to say “Ya, I knew it was him and when I got my chance I creamed him “……Did you ?

  81. habfan53 says:

    The problem is that Air Canada paid “naming fees” for the Centre it has nothing to do with sponsoring the team it has to do with sponsoring the the location.

    Air Canada does not sponsor all the events at the ACC like concerts, Ice Shows and circuses 

  82. Ayan_SB says:

    “It was the face-off, and we tried to set up a play, and basically the puck went to the other side, and we were racing for the puck,” Chara said. “I had no idea he was on the ice. I had no idea it was him.”


  83. shiram says:

    True enough.

    But it’s not like they can sever the contract now. I have no clue on how long it runs either.

    What’s most annoying is that the nhl barely regestired this complaint from one of their major sponsor, showing basically no care for their opinion.

  84. habs-hampton says:

    Does Bettman really think people are that stupid?

    “Bettman said most concussions and head injuries this year have been from accidents or players falling — rather than as the result of hits.”

    Yeah, falling into stantions, rock hard elbow and shoulder pads, plexiglass and kevlar sticks.

  85. habfan53 says:

    Frank it is VERY easy you wait till you’re contract runs out and do not renew. Because of economics this has been happening on the PGA Tour (where Air Canada used to sponsor an event) .

  86. HabFanSince72 says:

    Bettman is a businessman first and last

    Just like Al Capone.

  87. mrhabby says:

    iam not much of a fan of Michael Farber of SI..but he makes a good point saying the NHL should be the moral compass.. its looks like the NHL missed the boat big time on this incident.

  88. Miltie01 says:

    When the players decide to not do it for fear of injuring their fellow player the coach will have no choice in the matter. If players start coming out and saying I refused to maim someone so now I am being sat by the coach and other players back him up the coach will change his tune.

  89. SmartDog says:

    Newsflash: Bettman Provides Final Proof his Head IS Up His Ass!

  90. Captain aHab says:

    I have seen the emailing campaigning website and have seen how it works. Does somebody have a letter we could use as a form letter for people to send to NHL sponsors? I will work on it tonight and then post the link. It won’t be from Habsinsideout, unless they want us to do it. I’ll find another name for the group.

  91. shiram says:

    He is most likely just posturing as he knows the sponsorship deal cannot be broken just like that. Still it shows a very stubborn attitude.

  92. habfan53 says:

    “Bettman says the league can find other carriers if Air Canada doesn’t want the NHL’s business.”

    I wonder if these are the same people that were lining up to buy the Coyotes back when they dismissed Balsillie.

  93. Geoff F says:

    Well the vast majority play cleanly. A few others do not and it seems to be specific teams/organizations and mindsets. Not individual players. Since Teams hire goons with the express intent to use them.

    Players know who butters the bread so if a coach asks you to make a statement, you make the statement.

  94. Trisomy 21 says:

    Don’t get your hopes up

  95. Trisomy 21 says:

    That put a smile on my face, I’d quite enjoy that. But I think the reprecussions would be huge. The organization would lose respect from others, you know betman would get upset and there would be more action taken, like how he over reacted to datsyuk skipping the all-star game.

    Worth it? I don’t know, depends how angry bettman would get, because i could see him blowing his top off maybe banning us from the post season that year.

    But imagine all the brooms fans who paid for a ticket to see the puck drop? nice

  96. habfan53 says:

    I understand they are sold out but look at the losses they would incur if no beer was sold, no hot dogs and no sweaters bought .

    In the words of Howard Beale (Network) tell the Canadiens and the NHL that “I’m mad as hell and I’m not gong to take it any more”

  97. Miltie01 says:

    The league is the fans, the teams and the players, not some corporate office in NY.

    In the end though what happens on the ice is in the hands of the players themselves. Some group of players have to start the ball rolling and show what is acceptable and what is not. Then the rest will follow. 

  98. Geoff F says:

    Agreed! I think you got the spirit and intent of what i was trying to say.

  99. canadiens26 says:

    Buttman is ruining OUR game. I hope many more sponsors threaten to pull out. 

  100. DD says:

    Yeah. Let’s see how brave he is when McDonald’s, Pepsi, Tim Horton’s, etc starts threatening to pull the plug after they start hearing from disgusted fans. The sooner they get rid of this smug, little parasite, evil garden gnome, the better off the league will be.


    We can only hope that there is a ground swell and that the power of the people will pervail in this situation.

  101. Trisomy 21 says:

    The Habs consistently sell out their games, if every one of us on the forums started to boycott, they’d still sell out. We are powerless, the window for supplimentry discipline has passed and nothing will come from the charges (how could they possibly find intent from video?). All we can do is hope for pacioretty’s return to the game. And yes changes would be nice but evidently this injury was not enough

  102. Geoff F says:

    I certainly agree with you.  But at the same time when you make a polarizing statement not everyone is going to be happy (that’s kind of the point).  If i were at the game i would feel ripped off but i would demand a refund from the BRUINS organization and probably get it in a scenario like that.

    However that’s not here or there….you are right that Habs fans would be upset and in addition they would probably be in danger from Bruins fan retaliation.

    So while in theory it would be cool to see, i know it wouldn’t happen for a number of the reasons that have been mentioned among many others (particularly legal in nature)

  103. Miltie01 says:

    When you have a problem you do not act like a coward and not show up, you face it head on. All it would accomplish is the media saying that we are too wimpy to play with the big boys and Boston would be vindicated saying their way is the right way…….not what I want to see in my lifetime.

  104. habfan53 says:

    No not 5 or 10 minutes you want to send a message stay away for the whole game and that means TV also!!!

  105. habfan53 says:

    I was not referring to yours in particular Since yesterday there have been numerous calls on the site and others to take to the streets. I like you fear that some will do just that if for no other reason than to think it would be fun.

    I am just grateful that the Bruins are not back in Montreal this year (barring the playoffs)

  106. Chuck says:

    at 12:42 on March 10, 2011, EST.

    Commissioner Gary Bettman says Pacioretty hit horrific but part of the game

    The Canadian Press

    WASHINGTON – NHL commissioner Gary Bettman says Max Pacioretty’s injury is horrific, but it’s part of the game.

    Speaking after a U.S. congressional panel discussion about encouraging American kids to get into hockey, Bettman said most concussions and head injuries this year have been from accidents or players falling — rather than as the result of hits.

    As for Air Canada threatening to pull its sponsorship over such injuries, Bettman says the league can find other carriers if Air Canada doesn’t want the NHL’s business.

    Montreal forward Pacioretty was hospitalized with a severe concussion and fractured vertebra after slamming into a stanchion holding the glass at the Bell Centre on a hit by Bruins captain Zdeno Chara.

    The NHL subsequently elected not to suspend Chara.


  107. Mr. Habs says:

    It wouldn’t be too funny for the Habs fans in attendance!

  108. Black Snake Moen says:

    I also sent this to the media department and got the same response, nonetheless…


    To Whom It May Concern;


    I am writing to you in response to Air Canada’s possible withdrawal as one of the NHL top sponsors.  I must commend Air Canada for these actions, and can say with certainty that many individuals who have been following this story are also very pleased with the leadership the company is exuding.  Violent and reckless behaviour cannot go without reprehension, and by refusing to punish careless acts, intentional or not, the NHL is only condoning these exploits.  This game that we as Canadians, and now many fellow Americans and others all over the world love and care deeply for is being abducted by those who refuse to act while reform is desperately needed.  By choosing NOT to suspend Zdeno Chara for his malicious check on Max Pacioretty, intentional or not, the league is saying to the fans that the game has become admittedly too violent and thus uncontrollable.  The NHL is now a sport where it’s possible an individual could perish while playing within the set of the current rules and conditions, and that there is NOTHING they can do about it.  This apathetic attitude towards easily correctable incidents is disgusting and appalling.  What kind of message is this sending to hockey parents and their young children who watched this terrible event play out, that NOTHING can be done to prevent this, and therefore no punishment is warranted?  Max Pacioretty’s parents were in attendance as he lay motionless on the ice for over 7 minutes.  This is a parents worst nightmare, holding your breath in front of over 21,000 people while wondering if your son is still alive.  The NHL’s refusal to act has severely contradicted public interest; that of their fans as well as respected media.  At this moment, a twenty-two year old lay in a hospital bed with broken vertebrae, and while the on-ice officials deemed this incident vicious enough to hand Mr. Chara a match penalty, the league sees no grounds as to punish an individual who may have accidentally ended a young man’s career.  This corrupt behaviour of an organization that is supposed to set an example as how to make this game safer for future generations will not be tolerated.  I urge Air Canada to continue with this motion, and to put pressure on the NHL to act responsibly.  The true fans of this league greatly appreciate an airline with so much influence taking a stand and demanding change, as it displays to the people that Air Canada’s interests on the matter exist in the embodiment of it’s valued clientele.  Once again, I fully endorse such a commendable attitude, and only hope that as an industry leader, Air Canada’s moral compass can help guide its peers to come to the same conclusions about sponsoring the NHL.


    Konrad J. Commisso


    get your opinions out there people, the BIGGEST fuck you to the league would be this whole advertising thing, the money.  It would have that scum Bettman tossing and turning at all hours of the night.  It’s brilliant

  109. Geoff F says:

    What does the league need?  I think the league needs a wake up call and if that one isn’t a wake up call, i’m not sure what is. 

    I don’t give a rat’s ass about what the league needs, i want Max Pacioretty not to be ALMOST DEAD.  I want people to sit up and take notice that the league’s incompetence is contributing to endangering players lives.   What is the “LEAGUE” anyway?  The league is Teams like the Habs/Leafs/Rangers etc… who make up the lions share of the profits etc…

    Will Patches overcome his hit?????  Not so sure and for his and his family’s sake i hope to god he does!

  110. Julie H says:

    Just wanna point out the slight irony of Air Canada threatening to pull their sponsership of the NHL:

    What will the Maple Laughs arena be called if this threat becomes a reality?

    ♪Your cares and troubles are gone. There’ll be no more from now on. From now on happy days are here again, the skies above are so clear again. So let’s sing a song of cheer again. Happy times, happy nights, happy days are here again♪

  111. frobasher says:

    If you are referring to my post regarding a “Richard type Riot” I was not saying let’s have one… I was saying if nothing is done to calm people down then I fear that is something that can happen.


  112. mudar says:

    I think boycott is the best solution… Maybe boycott just the first period, the first 10min… first 5min !!!

    This would send a strong message that something has to be done about this kind of hockey.

  113. Geoff F says:

    Won what?  The game by default.  Never left feeling gratified from winning a game by default.  The only games that matter at that point are the ones in the playoffs.  THAT’S WHERE THE STATEMENT GET’S MADE.

    Not an otherwise meaningless game that will result in fans demanding refunds of the Bruins etc…

  114. Miltie01 says:

    They will be smiling from ear to ear because they will have won.

  115. drivefor25 says:

    I found some contact info for some key NHL corporate sponsors:

    ScotiaBank Fax 416-866-3750  E-mail: email@scotiabank.ca

    Bell Canada Corporate Communications Fax: 514-766-5735 E-mail bcecomms@bce.ca

    McDonald’s Canada Fax 416-446-3932

    Honda Canada http://www.hdrinc.com/contact-us

    Canadian Tire Customer Relations  Phone 1-800-387-8803 (English) , 1-800-565-3356 (French)

    Canadian Tire Head Office: 416-446-3932

    Other NHL corporate sponsors include  LG, Kraft, Compuware, Cisco, BudLight, Starwood, Reebok, Geico, Pepsi, VISA, Verizon Wireless, Energizer, Bridgestone, Ticketmaster, Sirius.

    Hope this helps.


    Fan since ’71




  116. Geoff F says:

    Could you imagine the look of disbelief on the faces of the coach and players on the Bruins bench?  Just thinking about it gives me goosebumps. 


  117. DD says:

    Know your Senior Vice President and Director of Hockey Operations, Colon Campbell



  118. RetroMikey says:


    Check out goon hockey over the years, it will never change.


    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  119. Miltie01 says:

    And give up the chance to win again despite their goonery…..never !!!

    Montreal has a responsability to the game to go there and beat them playing hockey.

    We have done this all through out our storied past, and we must do it again.

  120. jennifer1984 says:

    that’s a great idea!

  121. StevieRay says:

    Just faxed the NHL office . The faxed contained the FoX sports story ” NHL dropped the ball on the Chara Hit ”
    It’s a good story that adds credance to the fact that Chara should of been suspended based on the series of events between the 2 which began on January 8

  122. Habitall says:

    Feel free to leverage. I just sent this to Air Canada’s media centre (media@aircanada.ca, but  now I got a message back stating this may not be the right forum. I will resend to investor relations, hoping to get some kind of acknowledgment.

    To Whom It May Concern:

    I’m writing to commend Air Canada on its threat to withdraw its sponsorship of the National Hockey League, should the NHL persist in its outrageous mishandling of head injuries. The NHL has tolerated to the point of fostering an environment of goonery the likes of which is turning a glorious sport based on speed and skill into something more akin to a blood sport one would expect to find in a Roman colisseum. Any sport that protects the most violent of its players at the expense of its most talented (like Sidney Crosby) is not worth continuing to support, either as a fan or a sponsor.

    Like many hockey fans, I have watched the video replay of the savage hit by Zdeno Chara on Max Pacioretty, one which left Mr. Pacioretty unconscious, and which could have left him paralyzed — and which now threatens his burgeoning career. Given league disciplinarian Mike Murphy’s refusal to grant any sort of suspension for this act of violence, I am heartened that a company with substantial ties to the NHL is doing the right thing, and seeking to use whatever clout it has in order for the league to get the message.

    I write the above as a long-suffering shareholder in Air Canada, who will now do whatever it takes to hold on to his shares, as an act of solidarity with a company that is doing the right thing.

    Your Truly


  123. jennifer1984 says:

    you said it before no?



    also i like the comment posted above.

    go to the game, start it and leave. or dont even do the faceoff, just sit on the bench and refuse to get up.


    we’ve heard some Habs players are absolutely livid and between them all they make enough money to cover the $500,000 fine.

    hell if i had the money, i’d even cover it

  124. Habanero Gomez says:

    Bettman is a businessman first and last. He has no hockey acumen and does what he is supposed to do. Run the “business” of the NHL.

    The problem is Bettmen has left the operations of the NHL to a group of “executives” who are nothing more than a bunch of neanderthals…. Oh, sorry, ex hockey players who are throw backs to the “good ol days” when bench clearing brawls and vigilante justice was the name of the game in the NHL… These guys are out of touch with reality… Boys, the 70’s are over, get over it… We live in the age of Facebook and Twitter…

    Bettmen needs to bring in some young execs with fresh ideas and a much better grasp of what it is like to play in the NHL “NOW”, not 20 years ago…. Sure, he give Brendan Shanahan a job on the “competition” committee… Maybe Shanahan and others like him need to be given a broader opportunity to “run” the game…

    Now back to the business of hockey… Bettman, Campbell and the rest of the meatheads that make up the NHL brainstrust…

    Here is a proposal for you;

    If a player injures a player from another team due to something they did on the ice, whether intentional or not. Then make the offending team pick up the Cap hit for the duration of a players absence. So for example, the Boston Goons would take a cap hit for Chara’s (P.O.S.) action on Tuesday night. And the Canadians get cap space…


    Boston would pick up the medical/insurance bill


    Instead of fining the player, apply a “Cap fine”… This would be applied to the team’s Cap for the year…


    The only way the NHL and owners will do anything about the violence in the game, is if it impacts their bottom line…. If a team is going to have Cap issues because of one of its player’s conduct on the ice… maybe, we finally would be able to rid the league of trash such as Matt Cooke and Avery…


    The league, by not suspending Chara, and by saying “it was a hockey hit gone bad”…By this reasoning what they are aslo saying is that if Max Pacioretty, God forbid, had been killed by Chara on Tuesday night, would have simply been a case of a “hockey hit gone bad”…

    A high sticking penalty is called whether there was intent or not. A player has to be in control of his stick while on the ice…

    Whether Chara intenially wanted to break the poor kid’s neck or not. Or whether Chara knew where he was on the ice at the time, or whether Chara had no prior suspensions, IS IRRELEVANT, Chara lost control of his “emotions” and his “desire” to get back at Pacioretty….

    The NHL’s statement is true in their eyes…. But what it really should read is “in hockey there is payback, and someday somewhere down the line a player will be assaulted or maybe even one of his teammates… In this case, the assault got out of control”… — the NHL…




  125. joeybarrie says:

    Exactly what you did….. Send an email to every sponsor. AND KEEP DOING IT.



    I love the ideas of showing our support for AC. Buying their stock, or at least SAYING we will buy the stock in an email to the company. SAME EMAIL TO THE OTHERS SHOWING OUR SUPPORT FOR AC.

    Itll work.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  126. Geoff F says:

    I just read the following that someone (not me) posted in the comments of one of the story links about Patches here on HIO. I was thinking of some sort of action the players could do to show their dissaproval, but i really like this one. What do you all think?

    If Montreal has no chance by the 24th to pass Boston for 1st place in the north east and they are safe for a playoff spot, I say go to Boston, go to center ice take the 1st faceoff and then leave the game. Imagine that, all the fans go to the rink and you leave the ice!! Now that’s a statement! The rule book states you lose the game 6-0 and you’re fined $500,000, but wouldn’t that be a kick in the A$% to the NHL.

  127. joeybarrie says:

    Canadiens have a GREEN logo on a red shirt. I SAY EVERYONE GOING TO THE GAME WEARS GREEN. St Pat’s day coming up, headlines all around. NOTHING BUT GREEN. Green hats, green shirts, even bring in green socks and toss them on the ice.




    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  128. V says:

    I don’t have time/energy for too much protest on this whole situation, but have been trying to think of small actions I can take to retaliate against the league without significantly impacting the Canadiens. 

    I have already written Air Canada to acknowledge their public stand. Have also decided not to attend any games in cities other than Montreal (like I was starting to do)… the Habs need my support less than those pitiful franchises need my attendance (until the league gets this right, wouldn’t it be great to see those Hab fans that regularly fill the coffers in empty Florida/Georgia rinks (supporting the NHL southern US strategy) just stay away).

    I won’t be visiting the NHL website again – don’t want my visits to increase what they can charge advertisers and obviously won’t be buying any merchandise. The Habs don’t need the revenue as much as the league does.

    I am not under any illusions that these very small gestures will have much impact on their own. But right now things like this are about all I can do… does anyone have other ideas like these? I am open to other ideas that impact the league without having a sizeable impact on the Canadiens.

  129. Captain aHab says:

    A friend of mine will send me the address of a website from which form letters can be automatically sent by signatories to specific people. Once I have it, I will try to set something up to allow people to send a form letter to NHL sponsors.

  130. frobasher says:

    If nothing is done to calm people down I will hate to imagine what can happen in the first home game if the Bruins and Habs meet in the playoffs. I can foresee a “Richard Riot” level incident or worse. Imagine diehard Bruin and habs fans in the stands.

    The league needs to consider this possibility.

  131. Fansincebirth says:

    Riddle me this….

    IF the QPP follow through with the investigation and the courts (?) find Chara criminally negligent, couldn’t there be an arrest warrant waiting for him the next time he crosses the border?

    Welcome to the new NHL – NASCAR on Ice

  132. LA Loyalist says:

    The NHL ruling on Chara made the LA Times Sports section today, but just as a wire p/up. I fear this is not going to p/up any traction.

    The way they held the hearing before noon the morning after, proved the NHL had no intention of getting this right, just to bury it.

    As someone posted, they don’t want another Moore train wreck. So we need to keep the pressure on, any hockey fan friends you have in other cities loop them in, keep it top-of-mind. 

  133. Timo says:

    I would pay $500 to see that happen.

  134. Ayan_SB says:

    U.S. Senator John Kerry will be on Gary Bettman’s radio show today.

    Kerry, as many will remember, is also known for being an outspoken Vietnam War veteran.

    During his testimony on the war, he also came to be known for this famous quote, one which unfortunately may soon apply to hockey.

    Kerry said: How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?

  135. habfan53 says:

    I have stayed out of the debate long enough. I can’t believe some of the comments coming out of what is “supposed” to be the most knowledgeble fans in hockey.

    Lets have a “Richard type Riot” two other GREAT suggestions were to throw batteries or bricks at Chara when he returns real winners.

    You want to make a statement   DON’T GO  boycott a game,  stay home  .

    After watching a piece on “Off the Record” last night Michael Landsberg was talking to a manufacturer of pads that cover the stachions that reduce concussions by 99%  as opposed to the ones used in the NHL that only reduce them by 37%. These were shown to the individual teams AND the NHL their comment we’ll get back to you.

    Chara though not blameless is not the only one that should be appologizing to Max.

    AND where is the NHLPA in all this  NOT ONE WORD from the grand pubba me Fehr. Had Chara been suspended they would have cried foul but Pacioretti is a member of the union as well who is protecting him??


  136. Geoff F says:

    True, but Lucic, Thornton, Chara etc….could all decide to goon it up again and take out another of our players too.

    Something to think about but as far as statements go…that would be beautiful.

    I could just picture everyone just skate towards the exit and leave the ice and not come back. THAT WOULD BE PRICELESS. I bet Chara wouldn’t feel so big after a show like that!

  137. Miltie01 says:

    It is exactly the opposite of what the league needs right now………someone needs to show how the game is to be played. It has traditionally been us, and that tradition must continue. let them goon it up, we have overcome before, we will again.

  138. Miltie01 says:

    Writing emails, having lawsuits, throwing stuff at players……..none of this will change a damned thing !!!

    The only people who can or will change things are the players themselves. Instead try this….every time you see a player do something stupid, write and email him !!! Write and email his teamates. Tell them how you feel about what they are doing to the game. And do this to all players, including Habs. Hold them accountable. Refuse their autograph because the speared another player. Send them your jersey because they hit another player from behind. They will get the hint and the game will change. Or is it revenge you want ?


    The only other way to force chanfe I can figure is make them play a season in equipment from the 1940’s.

    I would bet change would come after the first 5 games…….

  139. Trisomy 21 says:

    There have been other cases around the league where they’re renamed the stadium they play in.

  140. Geoff F says:

    But they do show up, they just don’t play the game!  Was patches a coward???  No he wasn’t and look where he is.

    Based on your theory would you play chicken with a Semi in your Smart car?  Don’t be a coward now….

    Spin it any way you want the numbers speak for themselves Habs are 4 & 1 i believe agains the Bruins…not much more to say about it….The Bruins have been dominated so one game is not going to make a difference.  I believe they call that picking your battles wisely!

    In any event i understand what you are saying and get your points but i guess i’m going to respectfully disagree with your stance on it.

  141. habsgirl74 says:

    i think the posotive of Chara not being suspended is how many people are now finally tired of this happening including sponsers and the justice system, maybe something will be done now

  142. Miltie01 says:

    We keep going, we keep winning(especially if we meet in the playoffs), then teams will build their teams to compete with us, not to outgoon the bruins….this is how it works, been working that way for 100 years now.

    This is how you effect change.

  143. SmartDog says:

    Right you are.  McDonalds, Tims, etc. have a lot more in common with Air Canada than they do with Gary Bettman. 

  144. Jordio-oh says:

    The ACC would change its name to the Pension Plan Palace.

  145. mrhabby says:

    the cash cow.

  146. habs-hampton says:

    If a 34 year old NHL player doesn’t know who is on the ice, then he’s even stupider than he looks.

  147. shiram says:

    I may not be surprised, but i am very annoyed that we are being bullied out of our national sport…

  148. Habfan29 says:

    This attitude of the League defies explanation, Bettman is just pissing on all sponsors. What a twit NHL Governors need to replace this man at once, He might make money but the ofther Fiasco’s are just to much to overlook, Phoenix, Atlanta etc. The guys on the Disciplinary comitte were goons when they played so how can they make objective decisions now…..I hope more sponsors tell the NHL to clena up its act. This is going to come to a head and it is not going to be pretty…

  149. Nahlsy says:

    I’m sure all sponsors (current and future) enjoy hearing how little they mean to the NHL’s tyrant and how valuable their support (and cash) is to them.

  150. Mark C says:

    Nope, but using blatant lies to protect himself while Max is lying in a hospital bed is pathetic and sickening.

    Or do you believe Chara, that he had no idea who is check was, or that he couldn’t figure out who the player was as he skated 25 plus feet towards him?

  151. Geoff F says:

    That’s just ridiculous! Unfortunately since we all live in the real world that’s not going to happen. There are players everywhere just waiting to come up and take your place if you aren’t getting the job done. It has always been the case and will always remain the case.

    Nobody is irreplaceable. You don’t do what you are asked to do you will politely be asked to sit the next one out. Love to see you try and prove something like that in court. Then after that gets thrown out for lack of proof you can then try to find work elsewhere with that little puppy hanging over your head.

    Can anyone say Georges Laracque. Maybe Tek Savvy is hiring other goons who refuse to fight!

  152. Black Snake Moen says:

    thanks, cheers

  153. habs-hampton says:

    Oh, and I’m not talking about this one incident. I’m talking about Richards on Booth, Cooke on Savard, Bertuzzi on Moore (who’s suspension was a joke, byt the way), etc., etc.

    And I’m also talking about the one next week, where a guy will elbow a guy into unconciousness and get a 2 game suspension, while the victim (who wasn’t aware of where he was on the ice) tries to remember his kids names.

  154. habs-hampton says:

    It has nothing to do with “people in Quebec are as crazy…” (and I’m not from Quebec). It’s all about posturing, just like with the Bertuzzi and McSorley incidents.

    The message in all of these jurisdictions is to the NHL. Clean up your mess, or we’ll clean it up for you.

    No charges will ever be laid, but it certainly raises the profile and awareness of what a mess the NHL is in dealing with incidents like this.

  155. BruinsFan91 says:

    Ya know, Im one of the few Bruins fans who, if the NHL had suspended Chara I wouldnt have blinked for a second, cause while I dont think there was intent at ALL to do what this turned into I could see a suspension to avoid it happening again.

    That being said, for a call, and then ACTUAL response from the Montreal Police to actually play this smoke and mirrors game of “He needs to be prosecuted” is rediculous and clearly people in Quebec are as crazy as i think.

    Im sorry the rest of Canada has to deal with you

  156. SlovakHab says:

    And we are sorry the rest of USA has to deal with you.

  157. Rush says:

    Nothing like generalizing, huh troll –

    [And no, I don’t live in Quebec…]

    Speaking of, after you learn how to spell [unless you think that that would be “rediculous”] why don’t you engage in an uncharacteristic moment of humility for a yankee and spend some time trying to figure out why the rest of America – and, indeed, the world – can’t stand you guys.

    [HINT: Loud, boorish, pushy, self-involved, ill-mannered, not to mention – as you demonstrate so beautifully above – just not that bright…  All in all, not a terribly alluring combination of characteristics…] 


    Now, go back to Charlestown – where I suppose it could be said that the police have “better” things to do, and when not dodging bullets, why don’t you pass the time by counting the Bruins’ Stanley Cups.

    Oh wait, that won’t take any time at all…


    : –    )

  158. BruinsFan91 says:

    Ya know, Im one of the few Bruins fans who, if the NHL had suspended Chara I wouldnt have blinked for a second, cause while I dont think there was intent at ALL to do what this turned into I could see a suspension to avoid it happening again.

    That being said, for a call, and then ACTUAL response from the Montreal Police to actually play this smoke and mirrors game of “He needs to be prosecuted” is rediculous and clearly people in Quebec are as crazy as i think.

    Im sorry the rest of Canada has to deal with you

  159. Nahlsy says:

    Solidarity with the Islanders. The Islanders have been on the short end of Campbell’s reign of terror stick as well. Their players have had their heads targeted all year (such as Comeau) and when it’s happened, any penalties that were actually assessed (like Letang’s) were later removed so he wouldn’t be suspended. The NHL didn’t notice their heads being taken off until the Islanders had the audacity to start defending themselves and then the league cracked down on… you guessed it… the Islanders. Islanders fans have watched the Chara assault and are outraged that the NHL is allowing him to get away with it now as well. I’ve heard from several Islanders fans on one or two comment boards that they were going to try to boo Chara out of the building (which happens to be Boston’s next road game). I think it’s time fans of teams such as the Habs and the Isles started banding together on stuff like this and not allow the league to sweep it under the rug. Hopefully the Islanders fans do just that and send the message to the league by booing Chara off the ice for something that happened as far away from their building as the puck was away from Chara’s “rubbing his man off of it”.

  160. Will Longlade says:

    Boy, Bettman’s smugness and arrogance says it all. I hope some keen entrepreneur out there siezes the opportunity and makes a bold move onto the NHL’s turf. That will temper that arrogance pretty darn quick!  

  161. rbby_habs says:

    Is this a joke???  This is so stupid if the police are really going to investigate this.   This is an NHL matter, and should be dealt with by the NHL. 

    Chara should have been suspended a couple of games, (NHL dropped the ball BIG TIME on this one) and the next steps should be the league proactively looking into this in more detail to ensure these types of injuries never again. 


  162. Buster says:

    Letter I wrote to Tim Hortons,  and I am working on one for Mcdonalds.  If we make enough noise, something has to change. 


    To whom it may concern,

    Air Canada announced yesterday it is threatening to withdraw it’s sponsorship from the NHL due to the increase in head shots and the NHL not wanting to change the rules for the safety of the players.

    Tens of thousands of kids play and watch hockey, you are a family restaurant with programs geared towards kids (timbits hockey) and I am sure you do not want to be associated with the kind of “legal violence” that we have seen lately without the appropriate punishment being handed out to discourage these acts.

    It seems the NHL is encouraging this type of behavior,which can ONLY result in a player losing his life on the ice, as was almost the case for Max Pacioretty for the Montreal Canadiens on tuesday night. While the NHL had an opportunity to set an example (one of many they’ve had in past couple of years) ,instead it chose to do nothing to reprimand the aggressor.

    Will Tim Hortons be taking any steps such as Air Canada did in order for the NHL to change the rules in order to protect players lives and preserve the integrity of the game.








    Whooooaa baby!!! WHAT is goin’ on in Pennsylvania!!?

  163. Bill H says:

    This whole incident is very disturbing.  Photos that have surfaced in this thread have erased any ambiguity in my mind.  Intent does not enter into it.  Chara was acting recklessly, dangerously, and negligently.  The NHL is a bad joke.  With the police and sponsors entering into this, there is hope that change can happen.  I encourage all to support a boycott of NHL sponsors that do not speak out against this.


  164. Rudy says:

    The only think Buttman can’t control is the law.

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  165. Jordio-oh says:

    Consider it therapy for those who are ranting on message boards. Just to let out one’s frustration and vent it on a public forum can make one feel better. If it bums you out, don’t come here.

    Its similar to twitter. Get it out in the air, relieve yourself. I don’t think Chara will face any time of criminal charges but if i were to come on and talk about it, it may help me deal with my agression and frustration instead of taking it out on my friends and family and people who are important to me.


  166. shiram says:

    I can understand where you come from, I just posted below, and debated beforehand if it was worth it. But I feel bad about this situation, and to post allows me to exterioze a bit of that emotion.

    I just have a hard time bringing myself to talk about general hockey stuff, it seems so unimportant.

    I wanted to say though, I continue to admire and respect David Desharnais for what he does, last game you could see him going into the corners and behind the nets, and Chara would bowl over, like a ragdoll, and it barely slowed him down. The kid has balls of brass and he is an inspiration. Our team looked great and we we’re firing on all cylinders while the Bruins looked like they had too much Beans before the game…

    Still feels like hockey is not the same anymore though.

  167. boris420 says:

    Dude if we don’t do anything now you will only have to witness it over and over again. I was disgusted at the thought that I might have just witnessed a man die! People like you need to stop turning the other way and ignoring the issue! If your neighbour throws a brick at your head once a week chances are you’re going to do something about it, not ignore the issue!

  168. Mattyleg says:

    I’ve kept pretty quiet recently.

    I don’t like negative hysteria. I find it unsettling. People are unhappy, but it seems at times like the asylum gate’s been left open. I don’t see the point in discussing this any further, really. Everyone saw what happened, and they drew their own conclusions. There is nothing that can be said that can change people’s minds, so we have to move on.

    That doesn’t mean ‘forget’, but it does mean getting back to the business of winning hockey games, making the playoffs and winning the Cup.

    For me, hockey’s an escape, a place where I can indulge myself and forget about the stresses and responsibilities of ‘real life’ for a little while. Unfortunately, this whole thing has made my ‘escape’ worse than those other things. The police are involved now, and nothing will come of it. Like every other time, they have to be seen to do something, but nothing will happen

    I want to get back to hockey. I want to get back to banter.

    I want to get away from hatin’.

    It bums me out.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  169. observer says:

    like it or not it will affect this team the rest of the way. habs worst problem since gainey/gauthier took over was size up front of top line players FINALLY we had not ONE but 2 young guys eller and padcioretty and this is the best team in years. now nthe best big forward o0f the habs is gone. this will be an issue the rest of the way and will be discussed.

  170. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    Not so, Fat Bob defended the incident and Chara. Probably uneasy because he should be ashamed that he ended up getting the interview with Max. Max probably didn’t even know of Bob’s idiotic position prior.

  171. lavie says:

    The scary scene will definitely make all Hockey parents think twice.

  172. Ayan_SB says:

    Have you guys watched Bob McKenzie’s segment regarding his conversation with Max-Pac? Am I the only one who noticed that he looked uneasy and unlike himself?

    Well, Bob wrote a book a few years ago, Hockey Dad: Confessions of a (Crazy) Hockey Parent, and he has two sons: Michael, then 22-year-old playing NCAA hockey on scholarship, and Shawn, then 19, whose competitive minor hockey life was cut short at age 14 because of multiple concussions.

    I’m guessing this terrible incident hits close to home for Bob.

  173. JonoPEI says:

    oops.  This was supposed to be a reply to a comment below



  174. Strabo says:

    Dress in Black because we are mourning the death of the NHL yesterday.I know this to be true because if someone had been alive yesterday they would have done their job and suspended Chara


    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

  175. jennifer1984 says:

    or the fact that it hit home for him.

    had a younger son who had his hockey career cut short at 14 because of concussions

  176. jennifer1984 says:

    i signed one on twitter.

    but someone should REALLY start one. I vote Ian! he’s passionate and i think he can get it done. start one on behalf of habsinsideout

  177. Timo says:

    Too bad the game is in Beantown

  178. canadiens26 says:

    That is a great idea. My idea came from the fact that the NHL is only worried about money and I thought that a boycott in a large market would get the point across. I do agree that a 21,000+ fan protest would do the trick too.

  179. Black Snake Moen says:

    and of course HIO’s joke of a site won’t let me edit it for some reason

  180. LA Loyalist says:

    Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.

    Yeah it’s a pain to set up a brokerage account if you don’t have one, BUT – let’s each go our and buy even 10 shares of Air Canada to show solidarity. For your kid, whatever. Vote with our $.

    I used to own some Big Rock beer stock back in the 90’s, I think it was trading for like $5 and never moved much, but it was kind of fun because I drank their beer (sorry Molsons, but no comparison).

    The ultimate would be to sell some Molson shares, use the money to buy A/C, and then send Molsons photo copies of the paperwork.

    Trust me, that would get their attention. Post if any of you guys do this.

  181. Miltie01 says:

    The hit was defenitely vengeful in intent, Chara has wanted to pay the kid back since the Jan. 8 game. I don’t think, unlike most, that he had any intent to half kill the kid. I do think he wanted payback on the shove in overtime. That is where the league dropped the ball when they said there was not intent.

    With all the talk in the media by the Bruins players, the running of certain players and the goon tactics of Julien behind the bench it was quite obvious wasn’t it ?


    As I said, he didn’t mean to hurt him like that….but man. he definately meant to get him.

  182. canadiens26 says:

    I don’t have time due to school work or else I’d be all over this. This website: http://www.gopetition.com/ lets people start petitions.


    Someone go to town on this!!

  183. joeybarrie says:

    SEATS ARE SOLD. Nothing happens but a few articles and news headlines. Plus no one want to miss a game.


    The players show up for us, and we should be there for them.

    Manchester United’s fans wore green and gold till the club is sold. We can do something similar.

    BLACK AND TAN TILL CHARA GETS A BAN……. OK lame, but something like that.

    SOMEONE from a media outlet can get the word to 21,000 fans singing “WERE NOT GONNA TAKE IT”

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  184. Miltie01 says:

    The problem is they changed the rules of the game to open it up, get rid of the so called dead puck era. While some of the changes were great and have had a very positive effect on the game there have also been unintended consequences, bad ones. They are refusing to back track on the changes for fear of returning to the dead puck era(not likely to happen) and are putting in even more rules, causing more unintended consequences.

    The game has also changed when it comes to equipment, coaching and development and just the size and condition of the athletes themselves. We need leadership to come from the league offices and from the players themselves, we don’t need interference from the outside authoritires.

    By the way, when you win 24 cups and dominate the league for decades at a time you get flack….ie the richard incident……..we are still paying for being too damn good back then.

  185. canadiens26 says:

    As fans, the biggest thing we could do would be to boycott the next game in Montreal. Imagine 21,273 empty seats in the NHL’s third largest hockey market? That would probably go a long way.

  186. habs365 says:

    A 22 year old hockey player of the montreal canadiens a team which every player in the NHL if it wasn’t for tax reasons would love to play for is lieing or was in a hospital bed not knowing what the outcome of a visious hit that could have been avoided if one dummy player from the Boston Bruins had a Brain and used it. I viewed the video and newspaper many times and it was clearly intent. you don’t check a player into the boards and ride him down the boards pushing his head toward the stands and hold it there till his head comes in contact with a post holding the partition between the players benches and than say you were just completing your check. if he wasn’t a big goon dummy he would have admitted the truth by saying he doesn’t particularity like max-pac and he wanted to make him pay and that’s exactly what happened. if Bettman or Campbell can’t see that they should have no part of the NHL if it was their son and it had a-been a Montreal Canadiens player who did that, he’d be gone maybe for the season. I hope the police get involved and Dummy gets maxium time behind bars…….

  187. JonoPEI says:

    This article made me feel almost as sick as the hit did.  How he can blame Max for going into a dangerous spot and blame him for getting his head ridden into a post and have no blame on Chara is so beyond what I would expect a normal human to be able to think. 

    I have written a letter to Sportsnet about Spector and I will no longer be watching or reading their site til I am satisfied they have decided he is a tool. 




  188. J.J. of Turku says:

    How about Viagra? :) 

    Bad joke, but I just had to say it…

  189. Habitall says:

    Good on Air Canada for threatening to withdraw its NHL sponsorship over the hit (see http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hockey/2011/03/09/17558366.html). I think their statement struck the right note, and it’s the only way to make the NHL feel it — right in the pocketbook. Only thing Bettman & Co. understand.

    If you’re looking for a good speculative play, AC.B is trading for $2.63 a share, with analysts expecting it would rise to over $4 at one point this year. Right now the stock is suffering from a pending labour dispute and projected losses due to rising fuel prices. Anyway, I’ve taken a bath on this in the past few months, but I’m loth to sell it now that the company has taken a strong stand. Gotta admire that.

  190. CBrady12 says:


    I agree but 3rd largest? who is second?

  191. observer says:

    Is there one more Habs/Bruins game this season? OR as standings are today Habs are going to meet the Bruins in the first round and WITHOUT one of their best players Pacioretty playing while Boston laughs. You think the riot when Habs knocked them off in round one a couple of years back will be a ZILLION TIMES worse if Habs lose their last playoff game to this team who BETTMAN just bolstered by allowing Chara to play for Jacobs team!

  192. Timo says:

    It would be great if someone from HIO staff took it upon themselves to collect a list of email addresses for ALL NHL sponsors and let folks know. While I am not great at writing I will just copy your email K and send it with my name on it :) (hope there are no copy rights attached)



  193. joeybarrie says:


    At first I was unfazed when the NHL didn’t nothing. I expected it. SADLY.

    Then I started thinking more and more reading articles from the press. Montreal’s saying he deserved 10 games plus. Boston’s saying he deserved nothing.

    Three things jump out at me.

    FIRST: The last game between the Habs and Bruins had more than 180 penalty minutes, and let’s call a spade a spade, BOSTON instigated. The league’s disciplinarian made a point of being at the next game in person.

    SECOND: During the game, after the Habs were winning by an amount that pretty much gave them the game, a retaliation move by Chara put a players life in jeopardy. A needless move, that came after the play.

    THIRD: Anytime a hit is done after the puck is gone, there can be absolutely NO DOUBT that leads itself to intent. Thats the actual definiton for retaliation in fact, because there is no OTHER reason to hit the player. THE PUCK IS GONE… It wasn’t an accidental high stick that caught an eye… Maybe he didn’t want Pacs to go to the hospital, but thats the reason we have penalties and disciplinarians, because someone can absolutely die out there.

    FOURTH: I have heard ALOT of talk about hits to the head, and other such dangerous life threatening situations in professional hockey. This season more than any other that I can recall.

    ALL THESE THINGS TO CONSIDER, and the NHL does absolutely nothing to address any of it. They in fact make the situation worse by creating an environment where players are looking for revenge, fans looking for vigilante justice and the media stirring it all up to sell their articles. They allow a player to turn around and blame the victim creating even more anymosity and chaos.

    Say someone from the Habs decide to go at Chara and push him head first into something. How do you think the league will react? Then that player will get the book thrown at him, and AGAIN, creating a situation where thing are left unfair, and unsettled.

    AND WORST OF ALL IN MY MIND, is that the NHL is sitting there and directly saying that being careless and stupid is something they are willing to accept, and in fact encouraging it. Its ok if you stab someone with your skate, as long as you didn’t mean to. Its ok to guide a player into a wall or metal turnbuckle, cause if you didn’t mean to do it, then your just stupid and careless, but not penalized. They do not want the best and brighest professional athletes out there, they simply want ones who are too dumb to realize that under any circumstances you don’t purposefully try to make a player pay for something as trivial as a little push. To be honest in my mind Chara should be put in jail for 30 days based on his level on intelligence for trying to blame MaxPac for something he did, while a guys future is still in question. To me this is on the same lines of drinking and driving. Maybe when your drunk you aren’t in the frame of mind to make a good decision, but your the idiot who put yourself in the situation in the first place, KNOWING what will happen if you get caught.

    I am left HOPING Chara is personally affected by this to the point where it hurts his own game, and I am left feeling as if I want him to suffer in some fashion. That isn’t right, and in my opinion it was up to the League to make sure that it didn’t happen.

    I really feel now like the League has failed in this respect, and I sincerely hope that some media outlets in Montreal get the fans to support some sort of action against them. I say we figure out EVERY SINGLE high ranking League official’s email and phone numbers and stop calling the Police here and focus that on the league. I would go as far as to boycott any league wide fuctions like the ALLSTAR GAMES and all the fans support it gets, any kind of fan voting for awards, and anything else we can think of. I just would absolutely NOT stop buying tickets to the Habs games, cause they need all the support we can give them.

    Trust me, 1 million plus calls emails and such to anything attached to the league will do ALOT. INCLUDING League sponsors. ANYONE that has advertising in the NHL should be also facing the same repercussions.


    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  194. matraque says:

    Dreger (sp?) is an NHL puppet.  Clearly showed this morning on team990


    Canadien en 5! Never go Full Retard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  195. Captain aHab says:

    (Sorry this was for the poster below)

    Then why is Air Canada threatening to pull out?


  196. RGM says:

    March 24th.

    Go Habs Go!

  197. canadiens26 says:

    Last time I checked it was the Rangers than the Leafs then us. I could be wrong.

  198. adam76 says:

    Wow – I have been reading some of the NESN boards.  I use to think Toronto fans were the slowest  – looking like the Bs are worse.

  199. Chuck says:

    It would be interesting to find video from the past two games with the Bruins, when they were still in the game, where Chara had an opportunity to take liberties with Pach, but didn’t because it would likely draw a penalty and  opu the Bruins at a disadvantage.

    Such a situation would go a long way in showing whether or not Tuesday night’s hit was vengeful in its intent.

  200. Chuck says:

    Not everyone can afford to go to Harvard, I guess.

  201. BJ says:

    What about a petition where we send the marketing department of each of the sponsors a long list of individuals that would boycott their product (with the exception of Air Canada as the had the guts to step forward) unless they step forward as Air Canada did and denounce the NHL. I would take it a step further and ask for the immediate resignation of at least Bettman, Campbell and Murphy. I’m sure we could contact fan blogs of other teams such as Pittsburgh, Detroit and other teams that have had similar vicious head injuries. Does anyone know how to get this started?

  202. Mr. Biter says:

    Good one.

  203. BJ says:

    I posted this down below but the blogs are coming in so fast its getting burried:


    For those who, like myself, would like to tell NHL sponsors about your issues with how the NHL handled this, here’s the page with their marketing partners:


    I’ve also seen ads for Jeep and Dove products


    What about a petition where we send the marketing department of each of the sponsors a long list of individuals that would boycott their product (with the exception of Air Canada as the had the guts to step forward) unless they step forward as Air Canada did and denounce the NHL. I would take it a step further and ask for the immediate resignation of at least Bettman, Campbell and Murphy. I’m sure we could contact fan blogs of other teams such as Pittsburgh, Detroit and other teams that have had similar vicious head injuries. Does anyone know how to get this started?

  204. RGM says:


    Go Habs Go!

  205. Miltie01 says:

    All you will accomplish is to tell them they should keep on advertising and marketing with the NHL because folks will be seeing their ads. The only recourse is to stop watching, going to games etc. etc.

    They won’t advertise with a company with no exposure. The incident has given more exposure than they could have ever imagined !!!

  206. Admiral_Adama says:

    Further proof Darren Dreger from TSN is a tool:  His opening line in the infamous Dreger Report states that Canadiens fans are in an uproar over chara ruling.  Last time I checked, the sentiment was LEAGUE-WIDE.  Tool.

  207. Mr. Habs says:

    If the Habs were owned by Mobsters, Chara would be snuffed by now!

  208. Black Snake Moen says:

    I’m so proud of Habs Nation right now….we are the best fans in the world, look at how our push to end this bullshit has begun to turn this around…Charlie Sheen would say we are “winning”

    I sent an e-mail to Air Canada, and will do so to the NHL’s other sponsors….


    To Whom It May Concern;


    I am writing to you in response to Air Canada’s possible withdrawal as one of the NHL top sponsors.  I must commend Air Canada for these actions, and can say with certainty that many individuals who have been following this story are also very pleased with the leadership the company is exuding.  Violent and reckless behaviour cannot go without reprehension, and by refusing to punish careless acts, intentional or not, the NHL is only condoning these exploits.  This game that we as Canadians, and now many fellow Americans and others all over the world love and care deeply for is being abducted by those who refuse to act while reform is desperately needed.  By choosing NOT to suspend Zdeno Chara for his malicious check on Max Pacioretty, intentional or not, the league is saying to the fans that the game has become admittedly too violent and thus uncontrollable.  The NHL is now a sport where it’s possible an individual could perish while playing within the set of the current rules and conditions, and that there is NOTHING they can do about it.  This apathetic attitude towards easily correctable incidents is disgusting and appalling.  What kind of message is this sending to hockey parents and their young children who watched this terrible event play out, that NOTHING can be done to prevent this, and therefore no punishment is warranted?  Max Pacioretty’s parents were in attendance as he lay motionless on the ice for over 7 minutes.  This is a parents worst nightmare, holding your breath in front of over 21,000 people while wondering if your son is still alive.  The NHL’s refusal to act has severely contradicted public interest; that or their fans as well as respected media.  At this moment, a twenty-two year old lay in a hospital bed with broken vertebrae, and while the on-ice officials deemed this incident vicious enough to hand Mr. Chara a match penalty, the league sees no grounds as to punish an individual who may have accidentally ended a young man’s career.  This corrupt behaviour of an organization that is supposed to set an example as to how to make this game safer for future generations will not be tolerated.  I urge Air Canada to continue with this motion, and to put pressure on the NHL to act responsibly.  The true fans of this league greatly appreciate an airline with so much influence taking a stand and demanding change, as it displays to the people that Air Canada’s interests on the matter exist in the embodiment of it’s valued clientele.  Once again, I fully endorse such a commendable attitude, and only hope that as an industry leader, Air Canada’s moral compass can help guide its peers to come to the same conclusions about sponsoring the NHL. 




    Konrad J. Commisso

  209. rocketsglare says:

    The NHL’s failure to discipline Chara for his reckless and dangerous act which was clearly deliberate has invited

     a possible criminal investigation. I applaud the DCPP for their call to have the incident investigated. The NHL

    will simply never learn.

    Go Habs Go!



  210. dh says:

    Maybe it was too much guilt due to his report before the interview.

  211. Mr. Biter says:

    Firstly lets hope that Max Pac will be able to play hockey next year and has a compleate recovery but back injuries espically spine injuries can be career ending (Steve Moore) so lets hope his family gets the same lawyer Moore got or if there’a a Habs loving Law Firm out there to do it “pro bono) get the co#ksucker Chara.

    Excellent piece of dropping the ball by the NHL on Fox Sports re: NHL (do a google Fox Sports) 

    Kuddos to White for going after the Bruin who went low on PK. He better be up here to stay.

    Last time I’m going to mention that I predicted that this wouls happenbut in my wildest dreams such a disgusting dirty hit even from a Bruin.

    We now have the “Beatdown in Beantown” and the ” Attack on Pac” and the NHL has done nothing to look after our players so management must do something to defend our skill players before the Bruin game to see this never happens again. Yes as I have mentioned before Bring up Jimmy Bonneau and if some “knuckle duster” goes on waivers pick him up also. Yes they may not be able to play in the playoffs but no more attacks on our skill players during the season. Also the last game in Boston unless we really need the 2 points everybody go after Chara and Lucic all game long and bring them to their knees. And if CC is warching so what. He watched the “attack on Pac” and did nothing. What a Wuz. 

  212. Captain aHab says:

    For those who, like myself, would like to tell NHL sponsors about your issues with how the NHL handled this, here’s the page with their marketing partners:


    I’ve also seen ads for Jeep and Dove products

  213. Coach K says:

    How about this… a tractor trailer attempts to pass a smaller compact vehicle but runs out of room when it cuts back into the lane and runs the compact car into a rock cut…

    Does it matter that the tractor trailer is “bigger and heavier” than the compact car?  Does it matter that things are happening so fast?

    Is that driver not held accountable for his actions and the consequences regardless of whether or not he “intended” to cause harm?

    Intent is imaterial.  It’s all about mindest and resulting behaviours which lead to the act and (sadly) the entirely predicatble consequence.  The very mindset that causes what Chara stated as an “unfortunate” consequnce. 

    I don’t care that that Chara didn’t “intend” to hurt him.  That doesn’t matter. What matters is that the league contiunes to accept and even endorse that mindset/reckess behaviour.  Even when it leads to dire consequences.  The message is clear… It’s just fine as long as its a “hockey play”.

    This is about changing human behaviour and mindsets.

    If you want to change negative behaviour you must have a consequence for that behaviour that is so severe that people won’t even entertain the thought of commiting the act.  The fact that there is no negative consequence in this case for the player who committed the act means that the undesirable behaviour won’t be discouraged and implies that it’s perfectly acceptable to do whatever you want to an opponent. 

    The NHL must act decisively.  It has to work immediately to change the mindset/behaviour of coaches and players alike so that the act that leads to the consequence doesn’t happen in the first place. 

    NHL had a duty to its players first and the millions of fans (particularly hockey loving kids) to do the right thing and set the bar high.  Instead it sh!t the bed completely.

    Their silence is nothing short of unconcionable!!

  214. bigjack says:

    Apologies if this has been mentioned, but what was with Bob McKenzie’s report on Patches last night?

    Not so much the content, but rather, it looked like Bob was not able to talk properly. It reminded me of someone who is about to have a stroke and is losing the capacity to speak. What gives?

  215. BJ says:

    Yes simply because that intimidation factor would now be reversed. And Clarence Campbell has been pushing flowers up for decades.

  216. V says:

    It’s a shame that the NHL’s inability to develop an acceptable standard and rules that effectively govern on-ice conduct as it relates to head injuries has led to external bodies – sponsors and potentially the courts – to intervene.

    But if that what it takes, so be it. Something needs to drag the NHL – no doubt kicking and screeming – into the 21st century.

    Elite teams cannot police themselves. Because the stakes/rewards are so high, there will always be certain players who will push the rules to their absolute limits. The league must set reasonable boundaries that accomodate this.

    Am I the only one, or is there something in the league’s dismissal of this incident that smacks of Colin Campbell and the Richard incident?

  217. 100HABS says:

    Max said yesterday that he doesn’t want this to happen again. As the NHL did nothing (sic), the other way to discourage players from doing it again is to bring Chara to court. Apparently, it is rare for players to go to court unless the victim brings him. We should encourage Max to charge him, in order to at least cause That *^%%$ Chara a lot of grief and lawyer fees.

    That might help discourage others.

    If you agree, use the Habs contact page for Max:


  218. avatar_58 says:

    Bleh. I’m done discussing this. It just upsets me. Get well soon Max, it’s a shame this has become political and about “who’s right” rather than protecting future players. Whatever.

  219. BJ says:

    Habsfansince72 has it right about the NHL mafia. Its time for a regime change. I would even like to bring the NHL Head Office back to where it belongs in Montreal. Hopefully enough pressure is exerted via the sponsors to take the low life imbeciles out of the regime and perhaps pass the hockey side of it back to intelligent players, that is not the player with the Campbell type mentality with an IQ of his son’s sweater number.

  220. RGM says:

    Does anybody have the mailing address for the League’s Toronto office? I found this for the NYC.
    1251 Ave Of The Americas # 47
    New York, NY 10020
    Phone: (212) 789-2000
    Fax: (212) 789-2020

    Go Habs Go!

  221. Miltie01 says:

    The head office was once in Montreal….and we were hammered even harder back then by the league so no one could say they were biased. Do you really want those days to return ?

  222. Say Ash says:

    Kostitsyn could make it happen, but I didn’t say nothin’

  223. joeybarrie says:

    I just posted it above, and I am sure im not the only one to think this.

    CALL EVERY LEAGUE SPONSOR. EMAIL EVERY FIGURE HEAD IN EVERY COMPANY INCLUDING THE NHL TO SHOW ITS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Make sure they KNOW we are not buying their products in response the their support of the NHL.


    GO TO NHL.COM and any ad that sponsors the NHL, write email saying we will not buy these products based on their non action to the current state of unacceptable injuries in the NHL. WE WILL NOT SUPPORT PRODUCTS THAT ENCOURAGE THIS.


    We can do somethings excellent, and rioting is unfortunately one of them, but if we focus the same idea into positive actions, we will be the talk the league well past playoff time.



    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  224. Clutch10 says:

    Listening to  Tony Marinaro today give it to a boston fan was great.  The fan told Tony that the habs would go after Chara next game. Tony said “No we’re going to go there and take to points to win the game because we want to win the cup”. “I Don’t think you guys even care about winning a cup.” “Taking Max out was your stanley cup, congratulations”.

  225. Gindan69 says:

    Dreger knows that if he barks about the NHL, his access will be cutoff. No more juicy bits from Burkie means no more Dreger report.

  226. Black Snake Moen says:

    giver, althought I’ve already found a few  little grammar mistakes and what not…damn

  227. jennifer1984 says:

    i second that.

    and also what if no one bought a beer next game? seriously!  with the Molsons owning and their beer, sure would help.

    we know that the Molsons are clearly on Patches side but could you think of a stand that could make along with certain colours and chants! it would be awesome.

    also i vote red and tan because black is too bostony for me

  228. Julie H says:

    IF ONLY! Next season, or in the Playoffs people should have signs and war paints and prepared chants.

    ♪Your cares and troubles are gone. There’ll be no more from now on. From now on happy days are here again, the skies above are so clear again. So let’s sing a song of cheer again. Happy times, happy nights, happy days are here again♪

  229. Fansincebirth says:

    Well said….

    Welcome to the new NHL – NASCAR on Ice

  230. RGM says:

    Thank you, it’s in the mail now. :)

    Go Habs Go!

  231. boris420 says:
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  232. RGM says:

    Sorry, try the second one.

    Go Habs Go!

  233. shiram says:

    Patches would probably want the team to go on and keep winning. I stole my last avatar from HFboards, but this new one is just as good.

    Do it for Patches!

  234. Mattyleg says:

    I know how you feel, Shiram.

    I was watching bits of games yesterday in the pub and kept feeling queasy and disinterested.

    I think we just have to work through it.

    And you’re right about DD! What a sparkplug!! Reminds me of Theoren Fleury!

    (a young, not drunk/coked-up Fleury)

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  235. observer says:

    Cicarelli in Ontario     ———- 

    He did not particularly deserve the distinction, but last week Dino Ciccarelli became the first NHL player to go to jail for an on-ice assault. Dozens of NHLers, past and present, have committed barbarities as grave or graver than the one for which Ciccarelli was imprisoned last week. But none of them ever “did time.”

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1067721/index.htm#ixzz1GENibbNU

  236. shiram says:

    From what we heard from Chara, it would seem unlikely he’d plead guilty. If an attorney advises him he might change his position. Those actions on their own might not amount to much, but all of them added might put some pressure on the nhl.

  237. Miltie01 says:

    There are ways to deal with things that are beneficial to all involved. You can bet that the so called NOTHING statement said all it needed too. You can also bet that there is a more verbiose statement being made to league right now……these things should never be made available for public consumption.

    Pierre is just not contributing to the public sideshow, and more people need to follow his lead.

  238. observer says:

    We all read Gauthier’s nothing statement yesterday. BUT on Team 990 this am they said one of the French-language sportswriters said he “saw Gauthier right after the game and he never saw him as furious.”

  239. Mattyleg says:

    Sorry man, but complaining on a fan-forum isn’t ‘doing anything’.

    ..and you don’t know anything about me, so who are ‘people like me’?

    Did I say ignore the issue? Not at all. Nobody is throwing a brick at my head. Nor yours. Your analogy makes no sense in the context of what happened. Nothing happened to you. Nor me.

    But I like how you’ve made this incident about you: “I was disgusted at the thought that I might have just witnessed a man die!” So this is really about what you are willing to watch, more than anything else.

    I understand now.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  240. Miltie01 says:

    This has been going on in hockey for 100 years now…….just what do you think you or any other fan are going to do about it ? This will change only if the players themselves decide to change it…….until then, enjoy the game.

  241. Habfan4lfe says:

    Yeah it’s very sad. It was deliberate and at least my friends who are not habs fans also agree the NHL made a huge mistake on this one. Everyone I know thinks it was deliberate intention to injure. I’ve not run into 1 crazy person just saying, well it’s a game and things like this happen. Total BS. These guys know the ice and Chara bloody well knew the glass began there. I hope they do press charges on Chara. He’s a real dunce. To sit and lie after the fact saying he wasn’t trying to hurt him. What a shallow person he is. Shallow and stupid.

  242. showey47 says:

    As much as i would love to see something come from this i personally feel the montreal police are just doing this to say “hey,we tried but there is nothing we can do” in reponse to probably thousands of phone calls they recieved from pissed off fans. 

  243. lavie says:

    Patrice Cormier pleaded guilty to a charge of assault causing bodily harm and received an unconditional discharge

    Jonathan Roy, who pleaded guilty to an assault charge in 2009 after pounding rival goalie Bobby Nadeau

  244. Timo says:

    Probably, but it’s better than nothing. It increases the negative attantion to the NHL which will hopefully result in some changes. Nothing will undo the incident… but lots can be done from something like this happening in the future. Chara behind bars would still be a pretty sweet outocome, however unrealistic.

  245. J Haul says:

    I really thought, with the eyes of the world watching, this would be the case where the NHL finally stepped in and did the right thing. Good on the sponsors, officials, players and fans that have been stepping up to bat. Don’t let these NHL scumbags off the hook.

  246. Propwash says:

    It’s physic’s fault!

  247. bwoar says:

    Just giving the league the show it wants.  Reckless endangerment of players lives is the new normal for 2011.  Might as well make it part of the fun – the NHL is always trying to find new ways to get fans involved in the game.

  248. bwoar says:

    It’s a hockey play, with the unfortunate result that a piano fell from the rafters and crushed a player.  It happened on the ice, so it’s perfectly legal.  When the GMs meet in the summer we’ll look into whether we ought to suspend that piano from another part of the roof, but it’s there for the fans.  Unfortunately this was very unfortunate and a player was unfortunately killed by the piano.  An accidental hockey piano.

  249. bwoar says:

    The point is to injure Zdeno Chara, not look like good citizens.  Jesus, get with the program!

    I’m just instigating, don’t do anything if you don’t want to.

    Remember, heavy objects are worth points retribution points.  It’s not figuire skating, it’s hockey after all.  A man’s game.  A Tough Game.  We used to hurls beers at players in the box in Winnipeg.  I’m sure in Montreal we can work up to cinder blocks pretty quickly.

  250. DearyLeary says:

    Hey, we didn’t mean to hurt anyone, we were just throwing heavy objects in their general direction.  There’s no malicious intent.

  251. Miltie01 says:

    Bruin’s fans would be so proud of this statement.

  252. Bradlo says:

    That sounds productive… use nuclear weapons against nuclear weapons. Nobody wins in that situation. We look just as bad as Chara


    What about the high road- do what we can do stay behind Max and let the boos fall heavily on Chara for the rest of his career. Maybe even encourage other sponsors to follow behind Air Canada’s lead.

  253. smiler2729 says:

    About as productive as trashing Ste-Catherine st. after a playoff victory, some people’s children eh.

    Next time Chara’s on Bell Centre ice will most likely be next season if not this spring’s playoffs.

    Best revenge? Keep beating these idiots on the scoreboard.

  254. Mr. Habs says:

    I would love to see the look on Chara’s face in The Kingston Pen when BIG BUBBA comes up behind him as he drops the soap in the shower …. PRICELESS

  255. Gindan69 says:

    The police will investigate. Unlike the NHL, they will get the background surrounding the incident and interview the victim, witnesses and if they can to him, chara. Then when the report is complete they will send it to the crown prosecuter’s office with or without an opinion to prosecute. Then the crown prosecuter’s office will decide to press charges or not. If they do, the next time chara lands in canada, he will be taken into custodey, officially booked and the released on bail, hearing pending.

  256. Chuck says:

    I doubt that there’s any intent (there’s that word again!) for any police investigation to find him criminally guilty. But what it will do is put pressure on the NHL to get their own house in order when policing themselves.

  257. Propwash says:

    So, what happens if the Montreal police find him guilty?

  258. Captain aHab says:

    I doubt they will because I doubt that Pax will go along with it.

  259. SeriousFan09 says:

    Prospect Update:

    RW Brendan Gallagher: Van Giants star Brendan Gallagher continues to make great progress from head hit Saturday. Rode bike Wednesday, symptom free. This is from Elliott Pap who covers junior hockey in Vancouver.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  260. 100HABS says:

    I wonder what Cherry’s take on this is….

  261. HABZ24 says:

    what an outrage. don cherry may as well be the nhl commish. chara sould miss the rest of the season and playoffs.intent or not chara was there chara directed max  into the buckle, chara is guilty, chara should pay, oh no he says uh no i didnt mean to and just like that he gets off. the league protects its star players because fans pay to see them play period.oh ya dont foget commish campbells son gregory plays for boston, surprise surprise no suspension, gimme a friggin break.i was an old time hockey guy believing keep hockey the way it was but because of this ive changed my views.fighting and head shots should be banned from hockey all together.does someone actually need to die on the ice before a major change happens?  ps: someone should start an online petition to fire campbell and murphy now!!

  262. habs365 says:

    I hope you’re not saying Chara is a star player..He’s a Dummy on skates

  263. blu3chip says:

    I thought he came from a Russian zoo.

  264. lavie says:

    My goal is to send Chara back to his country, Slovak. I don’t want to see him in NHL.

  265. J.J. of Turku says:

    Libya would be better.

  266. observer says:

    you can bet your life bettman advised” them what their ruling would be for his friend and co-businessman bruins owner and like-wise thief jacobs best defenseman in a year they were a serious contender.

  267. Kooch7800 says:

    Never happen.  He would have to fire them.  That is what should happen though

  268. Morenz7 says:

    Can Bettman overrule Murphy on Chara’s sentence? You wonder whether he’s alarmed at where this headed. Sponsors getting pissed. Cops getting involved. Saying it’s all Montreal tribalism is easy enough, but he’s the one who goes around saying the NHL should be left to police itself. ..

  269. dh says:

    Well some of the players, including Pacioretti have been speaking.  I would not be surprised to see them fined.  Even JM said something after the game.

  270. dh says:

    Given the choice between no kids and dead kids…


  271. Mr. Habs says:


  272. observer says:

    chara?lucheech? thsts exactly how they live and grew up in slobovia or if they parents got out of there into bc with their mocky values. ever see the 4th movie of hannibal lecter – hannibal’s rising?

  273. rated_R says:

    Do you know if theres an image or clip? 

  274. Le Jadester says:

    Nice analogy HFS72.

    Where do you think the IIHF and the IOC stand with respect to the NHL ?


    Habs, OLE !

  275. Miltie01 says:

    Not at all, but involve those institutions with the game and there will be no kids on the ice


  276. Graves says:

    Geez, I guess Spector thinks chicks who wear low-cut dresses deserve to get raped too.

    Edit: Also, by his logic Steve Moore deserved it when Bertuzzi ended his career. And following that, Chara will deserve it if someone caves in his face with a two-handed chop. What the hell is wrong with this idiot?

  277. Miltie01 says:

    If we have the authorities and poloticians police our game very shortly we would have no game at all.

  278. SeriousFan09 says:

    Don’t give that hack the satisfaction of a page hit folks!


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  279. SeriousFan09 says:

    Even if they did send your luggage to the wrong place once or twice, what’s more concerning, temporarily unavailable underoos or a guy nearly getting killed on the ice?


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  280. Ayan_SB says:

    This isn’t surprising news. I think we can agree that all organizations (especially in sports) should be able to police themselves to a certain degree. However, the NHL has now clearly shown that they incapable of doing so. When you fail to both protect your players and punish those responsible, then why shouldn’t law enforcement step into it?

    The NHL’s definition of justice and its system is terribly twisted.

    A judge, also happens to be the jury, who only listens to the suspect’s point of view while ignoring that of the victim.

    Look, I don’t expect the NHL to be a reflection of actual society (in society, we don’t casually settle our disputes with fistfights), but I expect them to at least adopt certain societal rules (proper punishment).

  281. HabFanSince72 says:

    Careful. These guys (fans and players) are animals.


  282. Bash says:

    If it had been PK on any Bruins player what suspension would have been handed out?


    “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

  283. SmartDog says:

    That picture is horrifying.

    And you can tell by the way Patches feet are off the ice that Chara is holding him bent over the boards while he rams his head.  How can the league say he didn’t target the head when CHARAS HAND IS ON HIS HEAD!!!!!

    Holy crap. Didn’t notice this before.  The NHL is really really really stupid.

  284. krob1000 says:

    this is the part that bugged me…it was an odd way to write the article too….if he had started with his last paragraphs and ended with his other stuff it may have been a little better received…he aslo spend 80 percent pof the time blaming Pacioretty and only briefly then states his feeling on it…just poor judgement

    “Air Canada, conveniently headquartered in Montreal, is threatening to pull league sponsorship dollars. Political opportunists — who won’t give money for new rinks, but will tell the NHL how to run its business — are dragging the game into the House of Commons”


    hey Mark….how convenient that the leagues disciplinarian’s son “conveniently” plays for hr Bruins???? oh but he didn;t make the decision lol …yeah right..he had noooothing to do with it..

  285. SmartDog says:

    Maybe in his tribe that’s a sign of remorse.

  286. StALbertHabsFan says:

    Let Molsons know they should get in there and make things happen or you’ll stop purchasing their products:


  287. StALbertHabsFan says:

    Let Molsons know they should get in there and make things happen or you’ll stop purchasing their products:


  288. Chuck says:

    They’ve never lost my luggage, either.  :)

  289. smiler2729 says:

    Oh man, you’re right on.

    I feel so conflicted over this (the non-suspension for a murder attempt), my gut is wrenched cuz I love this game, I’m 46, I’ve been playing it since I could stand up, I still play twice a week. I also love the NHL, the Habs and its place in Canadiana culture, man, this game is US.

    To see the f***ing baby brains that run this league make a mockery of us, the fans, makes me almost want to never watch NHL hockey again.

    The irony of this is, I switched shifts with someone at work so I could watch Tuesday’s game, I had a couple of buddies over and for the first time on a school night even, I let my six year old hockey crazy son stay up past his 8pm bedtime to watch his Habs against a classic rival. 

    I wanted him to experience a real hockey fan moment – watching a great game with intense storylines with good buddies. He fell asleep before the incident and I won’t let him watch any TSN replays of it.

    Let him love hockey like a kid can, he’ll be let down soon enough by the NHL.

  290. rated_R says:

    Dont forget that slashed laid on Pac during a powerplay in 8-6 game. Look at the way he holds onto his stick and swings it. Not normal

  291. fuhgawz says:

    just gave this pic to some of my co-workers who did not think Chara was in the wrong. Totally changed their minds now. Intent or not does it matter? Chara is a P. O. S

  292. habsruleworld says:

    Spector is brilliant, he just helped the cause tremendously!


    you see, an established writer has just painted the perfect scene depicting premeditated criminal assault.


    if a writer seems to understand that it’s completely logical for Chara to have chosen to injure Max pac, how can the NHL say that their was no intent?


    Spector knew exactly what he was doing when he wrote this piece in this way

  293. Les-Habitants says:

    Most people will dismiss the police investigation, and I doubt anything will come of it.

    What impresses me more, and what might actually lead to some change, is Air Canada threatening to pull their sponsorship.  Money talks, and thank god someone is finally doing something about this.  The game is so good, but crap like this doesn’t belong in it.

  294. wd40 says:

    I wonder if he had to pay for the long-distance call, or if he got to expense it? 

  295. Rudy says:

    Might I suggest “Hockey Play Statement”, or something instead of spoof? I think it will get more views and get serious interest

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  296. Bugs says:

    I just read it and…I don’t see what’s wrong. I think he’s absolutely hright. He’s not absolving Chara for his dirty hit, he’s merely suggesting that the Pac-Man ALSO knew the stanchion was coming as well as being very much aware that Chara wanted a form of payback, either thought he’d get by or thought he’d make it out alive.

    That he was wrong on both counts doesn’t diminish the illegality of Chara’s hit in Spector’s opinion nor the joke that was the resulting disciplinary action.

    Did I misread?

  297. Miltie01 says:

    If there is anything worse than the NHL’s lack of response to this issue it is the equal and opposite reaction to it.

    Common sense has to prevail somewhere does it not ?

  298. SmartDog says:

    EVen the Boston Globe AND the Toronoto Globe & Mail (quote below) are seeing this clearly:

    “This time it has to do with punishing the guilty party even if he is a star player and a major part of Boston’s playoff-bound Bruins. What Zdeno Chara did to the Montreal Canadiens’ Max Pacioretty calls for a suspension, a serious one, something in the Trevor Gillies range. Call it nine games, 10 games, you get the picture.”

    The way the NHL is treating this it’s as if a skate cut someone’s artery in a scrum.  But what if a guy had kicked someone and the skate cut the artery?  Would that be a millions times different?  You betcha.

    Folks, there IS a VERY bright side to the league’s total failure to respond appropriately.  The league’s core intention which is to protect revenues, favoured teams and players, and NOT the health of the players is 100% clear to EVERYONE here.  This is gonna change things… watch and see. 

    And god bless Air Canada.  Man, I NEVER thought I’d say that.  But props to you AC.


  299. wd40 says:

    ohhh… right.  

    I guess we’ll be watching him at next year’s All-Star game in the ‘Push the Dummy’s head into the stanchion without malicious intent’ skills competition. 

  300. SmartDog says:

    I hear they might refuse to serve him coffee next time.

    Oooooooooo… I bet he’s worried. 

    Best thing would be if he gets arrested and convicted.  Best thing for him, the NHL, everyone. 

    The league is a f-n joke.   And now everyone knows it.

  301. Corio says:

    Tony from TEAM990 said that Lucic gestured and stuck out his tongue to fans after the game where Patches was hurt, wow, classy.

  302. BoomBoom says:

    I can’t remember ever being this upset or angry over a sport incident in my life. I am disillusioned with my favorite sport. I saw a young man come within millimetres of losing his life or paralysis and will likely have had a promising career snuffed out. I wish MaxPAc the best and hopes he gets well to lead a normal life and after that the rest os just gravy. Ideally I wish for nothing less than for him to come back and pick up where he left off before his injury. I hope and pray that it happens not only as Habs fan but as a human being.

    That being said, I welcome the investigation by police, why not. If the NHL is going to stand by and do nothng, then let’s have the authorities do something. I am disgusted with the NHL. Campbell and Murphy are incompetent and stupid and should be fired. I am also disgusted with all the talking heads that say he was just finishing a check…no Chara wanted to hurt MaxPac. I’ve seen the Bruins get away with so much this year that I am now convinced Campbell is protecting his little boy.

    Finally, first the time I want the Habs to get revenge. We beat the Bruins on the ice but they keep getting with thuggery and criminal acts. I want the Habs to sign the 2 biggest goons for the Quebec senior pro who’s only role on March 24th is to injure as many Bruins as possible. Forget the 2 pts, play to hurt just like the Bruins.

    Chara, I would not care if this guy gets hurt one of these days and never plays in the NHL again. The player that paralyszes this a–hole, I’ll raise a toast in his honor…I wish him nothing but the sh*t he desreves.

    Julien: Also nothing but the sh*t he deserves, man is parasite (a fat and ugly one).

    Campbell: May you see your son lying there unconscious on the ice after a similar hit. Then you’ll know how MaxPac’s parents feel. Also I wish you get fired, you are a joke.

    Bruins: a curse on your franchise and may you never win or come close to winning the cup for the next 100 yrs and instead wallow in mediorcity and play-off humiliation.

    To Rejean Tremblay, Boobby Dollas, PJ Stock, Martine Gaillard, and the rest of the dolts that said it was a clean hit,  F__k You! If it was clean Max Pac would be getting ready to face Halak tonight, and not sitting in a hosipital bad.


  303. Jbird says:

    I really be need someone on the CBC, or TSN just to be impartial on this.  Really.  What am I going to be able to watch??  I’ve been mad before, but this is different.



  304. craz11 says:

    I’ve posted this before, but I’m going to post it again as it’s relevant.

    Exhibit A: From Jan 8, 2011 match. Establishes the motive for Chara’s premeditated action. Best view @ 2:39.


    Exhibit B: From Feb 9, 2011 match. Once the scrum starts Chara goes right at Pacioretty, despite the fact he’s already engaged with another player. In essence, double teaming him.


    I think this establishes motive, and a prior attempt to single-out and injure Pacioretty. With intent established, this becomes no different than the Bertuzzi case, which resulted in a conviction. 

    To put things into a Quebec perspective, this makes the Cormier/Tam hit pale in comparison as those players did not have the prior history that Chara/Pacioretty do.

    This really does belong in the courts based on precedent.

  305. smiler2729 says:

    This incident is not ever going away. It will be a benchmark for changes in the league much as Bill Masterton’s on-ice death in ’68. 

    The fact that, a day after the NHL refused to handle its own’s issues, the government, the law and big business are stepping into the ring is a real punch in the head to all these NHL media morons blaming Pacioretty and absolving Chara.

    This almost feels like there will be justice after all.

    Hey, aren’t the Habs playing Steve Penney II’s team tonight?

  306. HabsAndNothingElse says:

    No he won’t. Why because he has no previous “suspension record.”

    Well NHL if you never suspend him he will never have a record.

    ——————– Habs Hockey Nothing Else Matters –CH–

  307. jennifer1984 says:

    there are quite a few on stubhub.


    i hope montreal fans take over the arena! all wearing #67. and don’t buy anything IN td gardens. no beer, no food!

  308. smiler2729 says:

    Zdeno Chara is now a dirty player, Mark Spector is now an idiot.

    Some guys’ true colours have been showing themselves lately eh?

  309. Bugs says:

    Greg Louganis?

    I dunno; what the hell? Too many people on that list; spreadin the hate out thin, no? They’ll hardly feel it. Suggest you focus all of your hateful attention on one target at a time, break him/her, move on to the next.

  310. Ian Cobb says:


    Evolution of the NHL 2011 72 dpi.jpgEvolution of

    Sorry this did not work, I will try something else.


  311. HabsAndNothingElse says:

    already emailed him asking him to say his speech infront of the bell centre instead of writing an article like this 3000km away.
    Habs Hockey
    Nothing Else Matters

  312. rated_R says:

    wowwwwwwwwwwwww the first three paragraphs was enough for me. What an asshole

  313. SmartDog says:

    Was going to post this myself.  Chara is absolutely THAT KIND of player.  He just doesn’t get a lot of chance to punch out people’s lights because everyone runs away… but you see it in lots of players.  He’s a dirty m-f- and I thought that before this week.


  314. StALbertHabsFan says:

    The NHL only understands money, I think? (Southern US teams are no evidence of this). So with Molsons sponshorship of the NHL, let Molsons know that this Pacioretty/Chara incident is unacceptable. I sent a message to Molsons telling them that unless they pressure the NHL to change I will not be purchasing their products. Here’s the link:


  315. smiler2729 says:

    Chara is now a dirty player.

  316. nick says:

    So did a bunch of preists before getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

  317. habs4ever2894 says:

    Everyone there was on my shit list before the events that occured except for Bob mackenzie who dissapointed me on this one. You should add mark spector of sportsnet to that list as well. 

  318. rated_R says:

    On my shit list:

    Matthew Barnaby, Glenn Healy, Bob Mackenzie, Darren Dreger, LeBrun, NESN + VS members, Jeff Marek, Scott Burnside, Steve Simmonds, Damien Cox.

    Anyone else?

  319. lavie says:

    Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo all had clean records before being sent to jail.

  320. HabsAndNothingElse says:

    Umm mark spector???? Read the article he wrote from the beach in tampa florida.


    ——————– Habs Hockey Nothing Else Matters –CH–

  321. forskis says:

    I read it earlier…angered me to no end…

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  322. HabFanSince72 says:

    Another thing that really makes me mad is how every news story pro or con repeats the same meme: “Chara is not a dirty player”.

    They need to stop spreading that lie.

    How many times have we seen this guy jump on players at the end of games? Not just against the Habs (although I remember several incidents). He did it the playoffs against another team too (and once again got away scot free despite insitgating in the last 5 minutes).

    Only last month he concussed Mikhail Grabovsky with a vicious hit.

    He has rage issues, and this isn’t a joke.

    He is that kind of guy and the Bruins are that kind of team.



  323. Mr. Habs says:

    I’m trying to get a ticket to the March 24 game in Puketown. I want a seat right behind the Broons bench. If I succeed, I will be the 6’5″ – 240 lb Habs Fan wearing his red Habs Jersey holding a Big Extra Large Can of WOOP ASS for Chara.

  324. habsfan_61 says:

    i urge all hioers to read spectors column at sportsnet.ca. and get your shovels ready after reading it.

  325. forskis says:

    I cannot stand Mark Spector…he blames Pacioretty for the entire event…going as far as stating that if Chara should have known about the stanchion, Pacioretty should have as well…the problem is that Pacioretty had no reason to believe that Chara was going to force his head into it, which to me, is a reasonable expectation.  Spector also states that Pacioretty was also wrong to believe that the rulebook was going to protect him…WTF???  If the rulebook isn’t supposed to protect the players, then what the heck is it for?

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  326. MikeMcLaren says:

    But the PLAYERS are only interested in protecting their own revenue (their salary).  That’s a huge problem here, too.  Their own union, the NHLPA, is always there to make sure that the player behaving badly has his bank account protected.  How often do they represent and protect the victim in these situations?

    I just don’t know what this changes.  The mentality of the players is the same as the league here.  Mandatory visors?  They don’t want those, either.  Oh no.  Try and implement something in the name of player safety and you get objections from the player union.  GMs almost always have to protect the players from themselves!

    And it’s not working.


  327. Graves says:

    Don’t be silly, Pacioretty clearly jumped into the partition. That’s what the Habs do man, they’re all a bunch of divers!


  328. HabFanSince72 says:

    I’ve argued before that the NHL is a  mafia.

    • The omerta that prevents people from speaking out (Gauthier reminds me of a guy who just had his restaurant burned down by the mob and refuses to tell police anything).
    • The widespread acceptance that it is part of the game to “send a message” through intimidation. (Only other institution that does this is the mob).
    • The acceptance of “policing yourself” (the IRA was famous for this – they’d kneecap catholics if they ever went to the police for anything).
    • The acceptance of the “enforcer” player – which 99% of players want in the league.

    But here’s another parallel.

    The suspensions to Sean Avery and James Wisniewski.

    The mafia is also noted for its sexual prudery. “Shooting a guy who had it coming is one thing, but insult my sister/mother/ the virgin mary and I’ll kill you”. How anyone can think a blowjob gesture deserves punishment and a violent hit doesn’t is beyond me.

  329. marshx says:

    yea watch the videos again, with the replay that is more from the far end of the ice, you clearly see the play starting out harmless with an interfence call obviously. As Max and Chara get closer to the turnbuckle, Chara actually extends him arms to “finish” his check and we all know what happens next, it also shows that Chara seems to CLEARLY see the turnbuckle getting closer.

  330. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’ve never stabbed anyone, but I’m pretty sure the police would not be very understanding of that if I did it. I’m pretty sure the judge would not just ask for my opinion on the matter either, they might ask the person I stabbed how they feel about the whole thing. I wouldn’t also likely get special consideration if a video tape existed of the incident and it was shown I was not maniaclly laughing with each thrust of the knife.

    But the NHL maintains it’s sub-kangaroo court system to dole out justice. Ask the offenders, never the victims and then use magic powers to determine intent.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  331. G-Man says:

    And do you prefer dead kids on the ice?

  332. jwarren11 says:

    The inaction of the NHL is very troublesome.  The hit on Max was sickening. I give him and his family my best wishes. Other than his health my biggest worry is the precedent that will be set from the NHL not acting here. Not only in the NHL but further down the line in minor hockey as well. Hockey is a culture that is largely effected actions on and off the ice by the NHL.  I know a lot of great kids who play minor hockey, but I know some bad ones as well, it is a great fear to me that kids will feel this an OK play to make since according the NHL it was  a “Hockey Play”. I also feel hitting is introduced way to early in the game, some kids can barely skate, still using their stick as a balancing tool when hitting is introduced, but that is a different issue. I have always wanted my kids to play in the NHL. . .after this I am not so sure.

    I think action from sponsors around the league would be one of the best ways to get the leagues attention. Maybe if the start losing a few million from sponsors someone in the front office will start to act accordingly. 


  333. forskis says:

    It annoys me to no end…a dirty player BECOMES dirty with that first act…you do not just come into the league as a designated dirty player…just because he did nothing dirty before does not mean that THIS isn’t dirty NOW…look at PK Subban, the League thinks he is a dirty player and he hasn’t even done anything remotely heinous nor even played a full NHL season!

    Chara may not have been dirty BEFORE…but he is dirty NOW.

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  334. wd40 says:

    All i have to say is Chara better watch his fricken self!  The next time he does anything dirty like this he’s definately going to maybe get a very terse phone call from the NHL. 

  335. Jdub1985 says:

    This is the picture that could CONVICT Chara and possibly lead to the firings of Murphy and Campbell.


    Sponsors of the NHL have threatened to leave the sport. This is a BIG deal.

  336. Jordio-oh says:

    Spector is a hack.

  337. Chuck says:

    Send that to Pacioretty’s lawyer!

  338. marshx says:

    60 games ? lol joking. 


    But yes, I have to think it would a totally different situation. I hate reading all these comments on various sites saying that if it had been the other way around there wouldn’t be such a big deal being made.

  339. dh says:

    The part about Chara’s hand on Max’s head seems to be left out of every interview except Max’s.  Chara may not have been trying to break his neck but he was certainly trying to push him into the stanchion.  Hard to see how that could be unintentional.

  340. mjames says:

    I have seen the replay of the HIT several times. As much as I try I cannot understand how the league and these so called experts/analysts have adopted the position they have. How do they explain away or ignore the fact that Chara’s hand was on the back of Pac’s head when he hit the stanchion.  Whether he intended to have his hand there or not is irrelevant. The fact is he did it was partly responsible for the devastation.


    I commend Pac for standing up for himself and expressing what most objective rationale people feel. It is disappointing that Habs management has not come out and said anything publicly. I know they are probably expressing their displeasure privately but that serves no point. Their displeasure should be publicly expressed so the league cannot hide and ignore it. Hiding this displeasure privately just allows Bettmann a way out.  If they really have the players’ interest at heart they should come and publicly denounced the league’s ineptitude. Molson, PG and others such as Lemieux should come out and take issue with the league.   



  341. bwoar says:

    Throw bricks and heavy objects at the player until he either leaves the ice or the game is called.

    If the league won’t do anything about Chara, fans in Montreal should.  Don’t let him off, use mob justice to teach Chara and the NHL a lesson.  What’s the harm?  Who really cares anymore?  Certainly not the league.  Might as well give them the circus show they’re looking for – by throwing every missile possible at Zeno Chara.

  342. habs4ever2894 says:

    Next time Zdeno Chara skates out on to bell centre ice whether it be this years playoffs or next season , us fans must do something to get the NHL’s attention:

    Question: What should habs fans at the bell centre do to be heard next time Chara is in the bell centre?

  343. Admiral_Adama says:

    Throw D-size batteries.  Works for Philadelphia in both baseball and hockey.

  344. J.J. of Turku says:

    What is that BS about Chara being so tall, that it’s hard for him to check the other player without accidentally hitting him? Did he grow up this big over one night and was this his first game as a tall player??? 

  345. Kooch7800 says:

    His elbow was above his shoulders

  346. Kooch7800 says:

    His elbow was above his shoulders

  347. mjames says:

    Can you just imagine if it was Subban who laid out the hit. He might have been banned for life and I am being serious.



  348. Habfan4lfe says:

    This planet is populated with a lot of idiots. There was nothing fair in that hit. It was intent to injure for damn sure. There isn’t one ounce of truth to say it was “just an accident”. There is a little history behind these two and Chara took it a little too much over the limit. These guys know the ice like the back of their hand. It is clearly obvious he pushed Pacioretty’s head beyond the boards and he then clearly did not even look back. He KNEW what happened, no doubt in my mind. I think for a hit like that, intentional as it was, he should be gone the rest of the season. I don’t care if he’s escaped justice for 13 years. It’s just further proof the NHL is out to lunch. Chara is a dirty player and 99% of his hits involve his arms/elbows in peoples heads against the glass. He was dirty like that on Ottawa and he went to a team that employs cheap tactics so he could flourish playing hockey the way he was. Never liked Chara and at this point I am just totally disgusted with him. And I’d tell that to his face. The NHL is even more sick allowing it to go on and treating people like idiots saying there was no malicious intent.

  349. J_P says:

    I remember witnessing the zednik hit, however, this was very different.  With Zednik, I knew he was hurt, but I never thought he was dead.  For a few minutes, watching paccioretty lay face down and motionless on the ice, after one of the most horrifying collisions I have ever seen in hockey, I actually thought the kid was dead.  I was genuinely disturbed in the idea that I almost saw a player killed, due to a reckless and completely intentional act of violence by an opposing player, while watching a SPORT. 

    I am even more disturbed to see the lack of human compassion displayed by pundits.  To see that their hatred for the habs is greater than their sense of human compassion.  To even suggest that this horrifying sight is only a big deal because it is a player of the “Montreal Canadiens”.  For some to suggest that this is paccioretty’s fault and that it was a simple “hockey play” leaves me even more speechless. 

    What makes me angry is the fact that if it was Travis Moen doing this to Gregory Campbell, and if it was Campbell laying motionless on the ice, you better believe there would have been a suspension, and most likely a VERY VERY severe one at that. 

  350. smiler2729 says:

    That was attempted murder!

    Imagine if Pacioretty was killed… how would the NHL spin that?? Chara’d be up on manslaughter charges, right? So why isn’t he up on attempt charges??

    Yes, players know the risks on the ice and there are rules but when the line between the game and reality are blurred like this, something has to be done.  And the NHL refuses to so we have what we have this morning, the law, the government and big business stepping in.

    I’m so pissed at the NHL, man, so disappointed and embarrassed. 

  351. Chuck says:

    The only thing in sport that I’ve witnessed in real time that was more disturbing than the Chara hit was the opening game of the 1996 baseball season when umpire John McSherry had a heart attack and died on the field in Cincinnati.


  352. Julie H says:

    Thanks for posting his address. Here is my email to him:

    Good morning Mr. Vandal,

    I want to take a second to congratulate you for your putting pressure on the NHL in a way that fans, players and coaches will never be able to.

    You are threatening to remove something that they value deeply and will not be able to function without. I hope other companies follow your fine example.

    Thanks again,

    Julie in Montréal

  353. HalifaxHabs says:

    I just emailed Air Canada’s spokesman to thank him & his company for taking action. It’s rare to see such corporate responsibility. You might want to do the same, so they know they did the right thing.


  354. Julie H says:

    Thanks for the great idea Ian, here’s my letter:

    Mr. Bettman:

    I’ve heard it said that ‘almost’ only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. I guess we the fans are supposed to understand that that is the logic the NHL disciplinarians employ when they ‘almost’ dole out discipline. Almost.

    So because Chara only ‘almost’ killed Max Pacioretty but did not actually succeed he does not have to face any sort of punishment. Max was ‘almost’ paralyzed but again, because Chara didn’t succeed in causing full paralysis: he (Chara) gets off with a slap on the wrist, not even, while Max is stuck in a hospital bed and will most probably be out for the rest of the season.

    The puck was not even in the same postal code at this particularly horrifying moment, having skittered 60 feet ahead of the play into the Montreal offensive zone with about 16 seconds left in the second period! Yet somehow it is the fault of the glass, the stanchion and the ice surface. Does that not sound completely nonsensical to you? You are blaming inanimate objects for the affliction the befell Pacioretty at the hands of one vengeful Zdeno Chara.

    The NHL as a whole needs a reality check. All of you had a chance today to set the bar high for dangerous hits because let’s face it: we learned nothing from the Bertuzzi incident. Forget intent, forget the aftermath, forget how Chara felt when he woke up yesterday morning. Deal with the issue at hand: the hit itself was dangerous and dangerous hits by proxy should result in discipline from the league.

    At this point, it seems like it would ‘almost’ take a death on the ice for you ‘intelligent’ gentlemen to get the message through your thick skulls. If this behavior continues and continues to go unpunished, players won’t want to play out of fear that they too might end up like Max. Or ‘almost’ like Max. I hope you understand that the blood that stains your hands will never come off no matter how many times you wash them and how much fantastic soap you use.

    Like your hands, the NHL will never be able to shed all of the blood collected over the years from its ‘image.’

    Good day,

    Julie H

    ♪Your cares and troubles are gone. There’ll be no more from now on. From now on happy days are here again, the skies above are so clear again. So let’s sing a song of cheer again. Happy times, happy nights, happy days are here again♪

  355. matrags says:

    Yessss now I feel better , lets go after them full bore , let the fight for sanity begin .

  356. Chuck says:

    Here’s the one that I sent, Ian.

    Dear Mr. Bettman,

    In its ruling, the NHL described the Chara/Pacioretty incident as a “hockey play”, essentially washing their hands in the matter as if to say, “hey… stuff happens.” That simply isn’t good enough. Over 50 players this season have been in the injury list due to concussions. The league’s marquee player hasn’t played since the first day of the year due to a blatant hit to the head; another un-suspended ‘hockey play’. On Tuesday night, they came literally within inches of having a player die on the ice, in front of a stunned live audience, including Pacioretty’s parents. By refusing to address the issue, they’ve created an environment where players are ultimately not responsible for their actions, and eventually, it’s going to kill someone. With the most violent example of a head being targeted this season, the NHL missed a huge opportunity to say, “Enough is enough.”

    Chara not being a thug or having a history of disciplinary action against him is a moot point. All that matters is that in THIS instance, he broke the rules, by interfering with Pacioretty’s progress up the ice… and in doing so, put another player’s head at risk of injury. The video and photographic evidence is there for everyone to see: Chara’s left arm, during contact with Pacioretty, is in a position that ensures that Pacioretty’s head will make contact with the post.

    Chara’s intent should not be in question here. Whether or not he meant to injure Pacioretty is besides the point. Example: using the NHL’s own rules, if one player high-sticks another, intentional or not, he’s penalized. The referee doesn’t need to consider whether or not the player in question has a history of high sticking, or that he intended to use it to hit another player above the shoulders. If you want to translate that to a court of law, consider this: if because of my actions I break the rules of the road and drive my car through a red light, injuring another person in the process, would my excuse of “I didn’t mean to do it, and I’ve never done this sort of thing before” keep me from facing charges?

    “Because he’s never done it before” should never be part of an excuse for NOT handing out a suspension. Whether or not a suspension is handed out should be based solely on the play in question. The player’s disciplinary history should be considered only when determining the LENGTH of the suspension.  

    Blaming the design of the NHL rink is also missing the point. Every arena in the league has posts next to the players’ benched to hold up the plexiglass. Through the hundreds of NHL games in a season, players skate by those posts literally thousands of times, and yet in the vast, vast majority of games, no player comes even close to being injured. That doesn’t mean to say that the NHL standard for rink design couldn’t be improved to help reduce the severity of injuries; the iron bars that held the nets in place were long ago changed to lessen the possibility of a player getting hurt should they make contact with it at speed. That still doesn’t mean that a player is excused from knowing his surroundings and playing in a manner that wouldn’t jeopardize the health of an opponent.

    Air Canada has come out to say that they’re not happy with the direction of the game. I’d suspect that there are also other major NHL sponsors, especially those that are involved with sponsoring kids’ hockey, that feel the same. It’s a shame that they have to speak up on an issue that the league continues to ignore.

    In the sport of baseball, the Commissioner can invoke a ruling “for the good of the game”. That hockey’s Commissioner remains silent on the subject speaks volumes about his priorities in developing the sport.

    This is so much bigger than just whether or not Zdeno Chara should have been suspended for his role in Max Pacioretty’s injury. The league is at a crossroads. Sitting a star player for a lengthy amount of time would have gone a long way in telling their players–and even more importantly, their fans–that the safety of their players, both current and future, are a top priority.

    Yours truly,

    Chuck Lewis, a concerned fan of hockey

  357. Ian Cobb says:

    People can fight for right. Keep the letters and fax’s and phone calls coming into the Police, Politicians and the NHL. Do not let them sweep it under the rug until things quiet down, keep the pressure on. We the people can save lives and can force the league to put respect back into the game. Our society’s demands action now.!



    Ya.! that stanchion bar bent on its own. It jumped right out and hit him.

    The players association has to take over this league, from top to bottom, or we will be watching hockey in the oxygen.  (sick) (ultimate fighting)

    How many want their children or grand children to watch or play this kind of hockey. Stand up and make some noise. Call a cop and press charges.


    Stand up and send your complaints, save a life.!

    NHL HEAD OFFICE –Fax# 212-789-2020

    e-mail gbettman@nhl.com

  358. DearyLeary says:

    This is my letter to the Commish, feel free to steal/plagiarize ‘whatever’.

    When the hit first happened I was up in arms, I slept on it, and I eventually decided that a small suspension would be warranted, and while I wouldn’t like it I would live with it. When news broke that there would be no supplementary discipline only one word came to mind: obscenity. 

    It was obscene to the Montreal crowd: the most devoted fan base the NHL has. People who excite players, both home, and opposing (as was evidenced in a recent player poll that named the Bell Center the best place to play a hockey game). We live the sport, it encompasses daily life for the fans. To say that this is just a hockey play is insufficient, and unacceptable. 

    It was obscene to the season that Max Pacioretty was enjoying: a player who had redeemed himself in the franchise, working his way back up to the big club and having a major impact on the play of his team. To say that the time he will miss (maybe an entire season’s worth, maybe more) is irrelevant in your judiciary system is an insult to the player. Who had done nothing to deserve the injury he sustained, nor the disrespect the NHL has for his worth.

    It is obscene to the players in the league. To say that safety is paramount, and that the NHL is taking head shots seriously, when it obviously cares little for ‘the product’. When the game is reduced to a glorified version of Slapshot, and people cheer. When the NHL.com website puts up a section covering last night’s action called ‘rough stuff’ and shamelessly, and sickeningly puts up a clip of Pacioretty being severely injured, it not only shows an acceptance of violence, but a celebration of it. 

    Maybe most of all it is obscene to the integrity of the sport you and your ilk claim to promote. The injury in question happened as a result of a punishable offence: interference. When a serious injury is sustained due to an illegal play (and Mike Murphy made no attempt to disregard the illegality of the initial incident) there has to be a response not only from the referees (who made the appropriate call) but from the league. Everyone was trying to ascertain the intent of the play, when in fact intent is not needed to suspend in this case. Reckless behaviour is every bit as dangerous, if not more so at times, as malicious behaviour. The inherent unpredictability of reckless actions is the very reason that recklessness is punished, both in every day life, and as it should be in sport. 

    The area of the rink must be taken into account as well. We don’t see punishment doled out for hits from behind in open ice very often, but once a player is close to the boards it is universally regarded as a heinous penalty. Why do we discount the area that this penalty took place? As if this is somehow a different offence? 

    In plain English: a player committed a punishable offence (interference), and the player on the receiving end was injured severely. There must be a response, no matter how small.

    As a result I am disgusted in the game that I love so dearly. The irreverence with which you, and your staff, have treated this sport and its players has gone too far. For the first time in my life I am seriously considering giving up on this sport. Shame on you, and your cohorts, for lacking the integrity to make even a token gesture to the fans of Montreal, and Max Pacioretty

  359. jennifer1984 says:

    once again, save yourself from reading the comments on in.

    some people disgust me. but had it been their son/friend/etc they’d  be screaming bloody murder.

  360. fbkj says:

    tsn has gotten wind


    this is not going away and i couldnt be happier

  361. NightRyder says:

    Yup. Not throwing things on the ice to endanger anyone’s safety, not booing the national anthem.

    Just a simple, classy and massive show of support for Pacioretty and disdain for the NHL.

  362. habs4ever2894 says:

    That would be awesome!

  363. jennifer1984 says:

    so say i have a gun and shoot someone…..but i didnt mean to. so no punishment because there was no intent?


    i have a couple drinks and drive and kill someone, didn’t mean to kill anyone, just wanted to go home. no punishment? hardly.


    or my friend who was killed when someone ran a stop sign and crossed a busy highway? well she was lucky because she was only charged with “failing to stop”, while my friend lay there dead. everything forever changed.
    but she’s 18 and will have to live with that forever.


    just because you dont mean to do something doesn’t mean you didn’t do something wrong.



    my boyfriend watched the video of Max and Chara, one look he said “that was dirty” and “holy crap he could have killed someone” he said if he had watched it with me in real time he would have thought Patches was dead.
    he’s not a big hockey fan either.


    it will be awhile before anyone STOPS talking about it, as it should be. keep it in the news, keep the pressure on.

  364. habs4ever2894 says:

    I recomend every person going to the game bring one egg and and as the bruins come on the ice the eggs rain down: It would be a beautiful way to send a message to the league , Chara and all of the people who beleve the hit was clean.

  365. NightRyder says:

    It would never, ever happen. But I would love to see every single Montreal fan, just before the opening faceoff in that particular game, get up en masse and leave their seats for a period.

    Every news highlight would show all the empty seats and Count Chocula might actually pay attention.



  366. HalifaxHabs says:

    I recommend a simultaneous brick throwing.

  367. habs4ever2894 says:

    Next time Zdeno Chara skates out on to bell centre ice whether it be this years playoffs or next season , us fans must do something to get the NHL’s attention:

    Question: What should habs fans at the bell centre do to be heard next time Chara is in the bell centre?

  368. JIMVINNY says:

    I can’t even go on a lot of the other hockey sites I frequent, because of the comments being made by other readers.  “It’s a hockey play” “legal hit” “puck was right there” “Chara’s not that type of player” are the types of comments that are making me so angry I want to scream.  

    There is no doubt in my mind that if the players and teams involved were different, if this was, say, Steve Macintyre of the Oilers hitting Nik Backstrom of the Caps in the game last night, Steve Macintyre would be banned for life and facing criminal and civil repercussions.  And every hockey fan out there would be vilifying what Macintyre had done.  

    Instead, the Habs are pussies, wimps, cowards, Chara says that Max shouldn’t have jumped into the stanchion, and the NHL washes their hands of it, saying gross negligence causing life-threatening injury is nothing more than a hockey play gone bad.

  369. lavie says:

    MPs Warn NHL Over Devastating Hockey Hit

    The Montreal Canadiens’ Max Pacioretty suffered a concussion and fractured vertebra after being leveled by the Bruins’ Zdeno Chara.

    Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff is going to have his hands full in the next little while, but he took time out of bashing the Conservatives Wednesday to send a warning to the NHL. He said that if the league doesn’t take action to protect its players from concussions, Parliament might have to intervene. His comments came the day after Max Pacioretty was left with potentially career-ending head and spinal injuries as a result of a hit from 6’ 9 defenceman Zdeno Chara. The NHL decided Wednesday not to punish Chara for the hit because officials felt it was unintentional, a decision that Pacioretty told reporters he was “disgusted” by. Montreal police have been flooded with calls to investigate the incident.



  370. forskis says:

    I just dislike the fact that Spector puts all the blame on Pacioretty…

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  371. HabsAndNothingElse says:

    These idiots just make you more pissed off.

    http://twitter.com/ESPN_Burnside  http://twitter.com/Sportsnetspec

    These guys are so fkin stupid I just wish these guys said this to us fans just outside the bell centre.

    ——————– Habs Hockey Nothing Else Matters –CH–

  372. krob1000 says:

    Like the poster below I too have long respected Chara..he often takes the high road….he has chosen many times not to pummel guys he could have, he normally does not completely paste guys like Gionta either, he had opportunities to run Koivu but never did despite Koivu always running at him full tilt…..last game was different…Inoticed it early….he had zero respect for Gionta which had struck me as odd….then he pasted Desharnais…..he was out for blood…all game.  Now on one hand he was withihis rights in those instances as they were celan and he is just a monster at 6’9″ …his history does show a conscious..very much so…but in this game…he was not himself….he wwent haywire after the so call “shove”and had to be restrained several times from going after Pacioretty…not for a couple of seconds either..he was fired up. The fact eh ahd zero remorse, zero respect fro guys like Gio the whole game…..he was in a diff’t frame of mind that the big fella usually his…he was the furthest thing from classy that night……

  373. Timo says:

    I think we can all expect that even if policy investigation is launched nothing will come from it. However, if it makes that neardenthal Chara sweat and nervous and look over his shoulder next time he steps his humongous bunion laden feet in Mtl, it’s already worth it.

  374. StevieRay says:

    Fox Sports Hockey headline .. ” NHL dropped the ball on the Chara Hit “

  375. HabFanSince72 says:

    It’s the ‘Z’.

    Zinedine Zidane’s famous rage issues have been attributed to his name starting with the letter Z.

    Z kids are always  last on every list.

    They know it doesn’t mean anything but psychologically they can’t ehlp feel it as a slight.

    The rage builds and builds, and turns them into  angry adults.

    Society can’t change the alphabet. And if parents just stopped naming their kids ‘Z’ then the ‘Y’ kids would suffer.



  376. 123456 says:

    i’d like to see this letter

  377. Rudy says:

    Here is the email addresws of the guy at Air Canada who sent the letter. Please commend him and the company for taking a stand:


    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  378. habsruleworld says:



    AIR CANADA Sent letters to all Canadian NHL Teams and to the nhl Buttman, saying they are considering pulling all of their sponsorship due to the hit and inaction related to Max Pac.


    Huge news! Buttman and Co look like the idiots that they are, something big needs to happen, it is not about hockey anymore, HABS kill the bruins with skill and speed and great game,


    Bruins have resorted to dirty play, and all out criminal acts to to win

  379. HalifaxHabs says:

    Exactly, if the NHL suspended him for the rest of the season + playoffs, then I wouldn’t want the cops involved… but obviously the NHL is a complete and total joke, so it’s going to take outside pressure from sponsors/governments.

    I hope they charge him and it screws up his travel status in Canada.

  380. Caballero says:

    I agree. The worst thing is to do nothing when there is an injustice like this. I can’t believe certain people can’t connect the dots on this one and see an intent to injure.

  381. Chuck says:

    Chara’s intent isn’t even the biggest issue here. The NHL has encouraged an environment where it’s essentially acceptable for a player to be lying in a hospital bed with a broken neck. That needs to change.

  382. HabFanSince72 says:


    Hopefully they also go after the enablers: Claude Julien, Gary Bettman, Colin Campbell.

    Let’s not forget Chara is just an animal. It’s the zoo keepers who are most responsible.


  383. yves_on_habs says:

    Well, in one way I’m not surprised.

    Although the NHL mentioned nothing about it and many NHL experts say nothing about it… some players talked openly about the rivalry… the chirping…. “getting them back”… and even using words like “running them”….

    Why should we expect the NHL to be seperate from the law? If I spoke with some of the dialect I’ve heard (Tony Marino played some of the clips)…. I would be investigated if I injured someone after all that talk.

    Authorities investigate people’s comments all the time to get a picture of just what may have built up to a certain point (assault, murder..etc).

    NHL didn’t even speak to Max Pacioretty. Can’t really call what they did an investigation. And they have little legal authority.

    Why should NHL not adhere to same laws?

    It’s a valid question. That’s why the authorities just may consider looking into it….. nothing at all was done in reaction to the violent hit…. except a second by second explanation of the event by Murphy. 

    It makes no sense to allow reckless hits that may eventually result in death, in a sport meant to encourage compitition and sportsman ship.

    – Yves –

  384. habsfaninboston says:

    A glimmer of hope at justice.

    Great news!

  385. Rudy says:

    This will make Habs fans look pathetic, but I don’t care, somebody needs to stand up.

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  386. yves_on_habs says:

    Who cares what people say. Some people have no class anyways.

    Maybe it’s what the NHL needs to start taking all the reckless hits seriously, instead of brushing them off.

    – Yves –

  387. forskis says:

    I am not sure about this….granted they did the same with Bertuzzi and McSorley…funny how no one blasts those teams for having the cops involved….people are going to say that the Habs and theeir fans are a bunch of babies for having the cops involved….but keep the cops out of it, the circus that is the NHL is bad enough already.

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  388. fbkj says:

    thats basically the gist

    the nhl dropped the ball due to special interests, time for some adults to take over

  389. avatar_58 says:

    Hmm. Not sure I agree, but you know what? If the NHL won’t deter players from boneheaded moves then why not?

  390. Habs64 says:

    Awesome news!

  391. smiler2729 says:

    Well written and unfortunately, I bet, Gary never reads it…

  392. shiram says:

    Very well said, and I appreciate the time you took to voice what many of us are thinking.

  393. Kooch7800 says:

    They did send it to the league. Was on the news this morning.  Good on them

  394. habs63 says:

    if google translate did its job correctly. RDS is reporting there will be an investigation.

  395. shiram says:

    I can only hope that Max recovers and can one day be 100% healthy, as he was before  a reckless move threatened his life. He has shown us already how extremely tough he is, and his responsiveness so early is encouraging.

    I have not been able to force myself to watch the hit again, and it is painful everytime I see the pictures.

    This incident made me lost all respect for most of the Bruins organization, the way they we’re pumping up the match, calling names, insulting and full of spite. And their comments after the match, or they way they acted in the third.

    I know I have no control over this, but I love the Habs, and I wish they would never have to face such a team again.

    Rivalry is something, but when someone gets so seriously injured and the best they can come up is that it was either the metal post’s fault, or Max’s fault, well what’s the point of even playing them?? I mean they we’re tying to get the Habs to fight in the third, even though everyone had all their spirits drained out of them.

    Truly a classless organization, and the NHL is not showing any more class or respect.

    I love hockey and it is so sad to see what it is reduced to. This is Canada’s game and it is a travesty to see it’s fate decided by money grubbing ***-hats.

  396. DD says:

    BTW Did anyone get any kind of response from the e-mails they sent to that smug little parasite? Even a form letter? I’m still waiting for mine.


    I didn’t think so. 

  397. DD says:

    Thanks for the article, it’s nice to have a bit of levity, after what has transpired the last couple of days.


    Btw I sent this to Bettman;


     Hey Gary,

    You sure you don’t have a pen name, because this seems to be the direction you’re leading the greatest sport in the world?

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