Update: Markov talks yet to begin

• Andrei Markov might be headed into his contract’s final season with the Canadiens without talks having begun on keeping him with the team beyond 2010-11. Radio-Canada’s Jean-François Chaumont has Markov agent Don Meehan saying that Habs GM Pierre Gauthier recently told Meehan that “(Gauthier) wants to wait until the right time” to talk contract.

New Canadien Ian Schultz in conversation with CJAD’s Rick Moffat (audio, no idea the vintage of the interview)

Road-warrior alert: HIO friend Kevin van Steendelaar has put together this excellent guide to ticket sales for Canadiens road games.

• Brian La Rose at habsworld.net on the contract situation of goalie Carey Price.

• Robert Lefebvre with yet another interesting project: A series profiling the Canadiens’ top 25 players under the age of 25.

414 Comments

  1. habstrinifan says:

    I read the article. Nice use of statistics (age especially) to make the argument. But it is contradictory in logic. He states that most of the RFA’s are seeking long term contracts and are holding out from signing one yr contracts because it would encourgae GM’s to only give one year contracts. 

    Price, from all reports, is seeking a one year contract and eschewing a 3yr or longer contract being offered by the club.

    As my college professor used to say “do not invalidate the conclusions of your thesis in the conclusion of your thesis” 

  2. derfab says:

    Disagree on Markov. I think he is luke warm about staying here and the Habs know it. I do think your call for a solid vet to lead and fill in is dead on though.

    character is derfab destiny.

  3. habfan01 says:

    And on a completely unrelated note. Yahoo Sports has an article about David Samson and Jeffrey Loria deceiving the public about their finances to get taxpayers to pay for their new baseball stadium

  4. showey47 says:

    Why do yo say that? We have all had fun at your expense for years.

  5. nunacanadien says:

    Come on now, grow up, it seems that the Price fans are around the same age as Price, spoiled brats who want the world given to them on a silver platter.  Well grow up, learn to live with what you created.  Granted some of it was because of that cheap skate Gillette and his emphasis on finding a way to pay for his Liverpool soccer team, and selling cheap Habs junket crap, if Gillette really believed in Hockey, we would not have gotten what we got for so cheap for so long.  Gainey is a cheapskate, which is why he was hired by that other cheapskate Gillette.  Its time we got real hockey managers in, not some concert promoter/GM.

  6. Omit says:

    And, then again, maybe not.

  7. derfab says:

    3 or 4 at best, starting with Ryan, can be considered comparable. The others are guys with one foot in the door.

    character is derfab destiny.

  8. cautiousoptimist says:

    Probably Gauthier just wants to make sure Markov’s latest injury doesn’t have lasting effects before they talk dollars and long-term contracts.  That’s not crazy.

    The more I look at our team, the more I think we need one or two cheap, dependable injury replacements at forward.  And damn, I would have loved to pick up Raffi Torres for the $1M Vancouver just paid.  For the same money, I’d pick up one of these guys too (probably doable since they’re still available at the end of August):

    • Bill Guerin: 21 goals last year, scores clutch goals, leads by example, and would take a barrage of bullets for his teammates.  he can also fill Pouliot’s shoes if the young gun goes bust or gets hurt.
    • Robert Lang, if he’s healthy: Had a lower-body injury that ended his season, but the guys is still a horse.  I don’t care how old he is — he was good for 0.5 PPG last year (perfect for 3rd-line duty) and is great cheap insurance to have if one of our top thee centres get hurt.
    • Evgeny Artyukhin: he’s a great thing for a team to have: a tough guy who isn’t a defensive liability.  He knows he doesn’t have to score — he just has to eat up minutes when needed and enforce the law.  He was a respectable -4 on a lousy team where Bogosian was -18.

    Am I missing anyone?

    1. http://www.flickeringpictures.com – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  9. Psycho29 says:

    Robert Dirk or Murray Baron?

  10. Psycho29 says:

    Mushroom Omlette???  :-)

  11. observer says:

    Maybe Price wants out – end of story! Maybe he thought for sure the Habs would keep Halak and trade him away? Maybe he is furious with Gainey/Gauthier for putting him through this knowing full well if he plays for the Habs this season again as soon as he makes a bad play or even if it’s not his fault as a goal is scored on him, he knows the fans here are waiting to jump on him?

  12. Mats Naslund says:

    Everyone should go read that short piece by HabsWorld. People jump to ridiculous conclusions about Price’s situation.. The article clearly shows that he is among a group of 10 similar players (now that Hornqvist has signed) who are all under 23, have no arbitration rights and are coming off of their entry contracts. He is not holding out. We all complain that big names don’t want the pressure, and then we freak out about rumours and media created problems. 

  13. Dave Stubbs says:

    I’ll be back into hockey soon enough, Chuck. More of those features to come.

    For me, the NASCAR race in Montreal this weekend comes first — feature coming tomorrow on Patrice Brisebois now being the driver/owner of a Canadian Tire Series team; see him race on TSN and RDS Sunday at 11:45 am ET — then a few days off before Habs rookie camp begins, the team’s golf tournament, then the main camp.

    Dave Stubbs
    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette
    • On Twitter: twitter.com/habsinsideout1

  14. derfab says:

    In short, Price. Though you also have to consider that those 2 would have to be replaced by comparable pros not presently on the roster.

    character is derfab destiny.

  15. derfab says:

    With the PP and puck posession time the caps had (complete domination) he should have had doublethose totals. The goals he did manage to get were a-typically of the ugly, rebound, hit a leg kind.
    His jump (first 2 strides)was clearly compromised and he was frustrated by the inability to beat slower players to the puck, only successful when it dawned on the neanderthal that he would have to crash the net to get anywhere.

    character is derfab destiny.

  16. punkster says:

    Lola?

    FREE TIMO!

  17. Mark C says:

    Ovechkin had 5 goals and 10 points in those 7 games, what do you mean he was clearly injuried and a pylon could have played D on him?

  18. Malreg says:

    Both Hamrlik and AK’s contracts are up at the end of this year, so why would they have to be traded to make room to sign Markov to an extension, which would only take effect next year?

     

  19. Xtrahabsfan says:

    That not what we do here in B.C.! …LOL

  20. Chuck says:

    Hey Dave, how about another of your phenomenal write-ups on a too-forgotten Hab? It’s always great to see what ex-players are up to nowadays. Surely there’s a number or two in your little black book.  :)

  21. derfab says:

    OK. I’ll bite. Gauthier , if he has balls and a brain (not sure what the Halak trade proves there) may be thinking deal to clear up space to sign his 2 franchise guys.

    Any one of Hamrlik, Spacek or AK would not hurt much (though Hamr is still a very good d-man), would take the pressure off and also make it much easier to make Pricey and Marki velly, velly HAAAPPPY.

     

    By the way, those commentators who argued that Spacek was great during the playoffs had to be watching Gorges and didn’t notice that a pylon was often enough to bother Ovie, who clearly (groin injury) had no jump to get himself open. Hamrlik and Gill were even better on Crosby and Malkin.

    Though he has an excuse after being moved to the right D side, Spacek was brought in as a puck moving shooter and, in that respect at least, has to be considered a disappointment.

    character is derfab destiny.

  22. Chuck says:

    A little early to hit the sauce and pharmaceuticals, isn’t it? Is your last name Boone?  :)

  23. Dave Stubbs says:

    S-L-O-W   N-E-W-S   M-O-N-T-H

    Dave Stubbs
    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette
    • On Twitter: twitter.com/habsinsideout1

  24. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Carey Price will sign after his Ransom demands are met but if he don’t I can’t wait for his followings too blame the Fans and the Tax’s and the Language and the team and the weather and the………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

  25. redgorf says:

    Markov has had back to back injuries so its fair to evaluate how the rehab has restored his ability and agility, some players loose noticable capabilities after such injuries.

  26. LA Loyalist says:

    1. Eller is NOT a VEGAN – you read it here first. It is true that the Danish don’t put tops on their sandwiches, which I admit is worrisome, but if you look at the bread/meat ratio on any decent smoked meat sandwich the difference probably isn’t all that much, I think he’ll be able to adjust. If he can also find the net…

    2. I’m not allowed to talk about Smurfs(tm)

    3. See 2.

    4. Price, Markov and WillyWinky need to be signed. If we sign WillyWinky do we still want Kovalchuk?

     

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  27. Danno says:

    S-L-O-W   N-E-W-S   D-A-Y

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  28. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I would not worry about this. He will be signed during this season, if not, the Habs organization is crazy.

  29. shiram says:

    That really does not gel with the source material though… time will tell.

  30. andrewberkshire says:

    According to the director they are in fact modernized zombies.

  31. LA Loyalist says:

    Plus he has an inappropriate relationship with Shania Twain which could prove distracting. Like we need that.

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  32. LA Loyalist says:

    I promised HIO to not bag on Price until November 1st, but man, that is hilarious.

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  33. Dave Stubbs says:

    OK, Bugs: Hell’s Angels, the 1930 masterpiece produced by Howard Hughes focusing on the lives of World War I combat pilots. Got it on DVD. It’s brilliant.

    Dave Stubbs
    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette
    • On Twitter: twitter.com/habsinsideout1

  34. Muckbringer says:

    28DL didnt have zombies.  

  35. Rob says:

    My absolute favorite “continuing story of survival horror”!  So glad they’re making it into a TV series.  Let’s hope it does the comic justice.

  36. Everlasting1 says:

    The ‘horror’ genre is not what it used to be. You can only hope for great remakes of old classics. Bugs, don’t know if you’ve seen the remake of The Hills Have Eyes. That was a good facelift! Scary, creepy too.

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  37. Everlasting1 says:

    Do you now?

     

     

    Don’t pollute the water.

  38. ManApart says:

    Insightful comment as per usual.

  39. nunacanadien says:

    I guess we are not going to win this year, I am resolved to that.  If we are going to watch the Habs go to hell in a handbasket, let’s at least make it exciting.  Send Subban away to some team where he can like Kaberle destroy his career, sure.  And for what?  Ryan?  Sure the guy scores every few games, we are overpaying Gionta and Gomez to do that now, sure lets add another expensive salary cap hit that gets us what, low scoring games where we lose 2 to 1?  Typical Carey Price game.  Lead the game 1 nothing until 16 minutes into the period and watch two floaters go in with little time to make up for the loss.

  40. nunacanadien says:

    They are both losers, and we saw that.  Any young man who has the loyal support of fans and behaves like that, shame on that young man.  Fans see what they want to see, and game after game, we’ve seen clean breakaways result in floater scores, which is Price’s Achilles Heel.

  41. ManApart says:

    True, but It’s a universal thing, if we have a great player, he’ll get away with the same things.

  42. ManApart says:

    Berkshire does talk out of his ass a lot, but in this case he’s dead on. The other guy is saying Markov doesn’t really want to be here. That is a complete fabrication from his delusional mind, with absolutely no evidence, hard or circumstantial, whatsoever. He deserved what AB said to him, for talking stupid.

  43. Storm Man says:

    Click on to my name on here in blue…… After that hit contact and you can send me a email. The league is full 20 teams, I think more people wanted to join so I will do other one based on how many want to join.

  44. andrewberkshire says:

    This I can agree with. However it’s a stupid system.

  45. ManApart says:

    LOL, sensitive are we? Let me rephrase, Crosby is great, Price is not great. Crosby gets benefits, Price doesn’t. Happy ?

  46. andrewberkshire says:

    Opposite? Really? The absolute opposite… Get a life.

  47. ManApart says:

    Ya but Crosby is a great player, Price the opposite. Like it or not, it buys players slack.

  48. zozotheclown says:

    Looks cool, its too bad they’re not using the 28 days later style zombies though, that is, zombies that run, over the slow walky kind in the trailer.

  49. ManApart says:

    Ignorance is bliss eh JB? I’m going to have a lot of fun with you this season. Unfortuneately, I don’t think you will.

  50. andrewberkshire says:

    Remember when Crosby broke his stick off the net by Halak and then threw it in the corner? And no unsportsmanlike call, not even any news reports on it. And PRICE gets called immature…

  51. ManApart says:

    Not sure what you are talking about. Avstin is not close at all.

  52. ManApart says:

    Keep dreaming. Ryan is one of the top young power forwards in the game. It would take Subban to get Ryan. Nobody wants our garbage for a future perenial all star.

  53. punkster says:

    This kid’s got a future.The hair pulling is a sure sign of his willingness to mix it up. The crayon eating will serve him well during those long, drunken nights on St Laurent where anything could, and most likely will, be ingested. I classify him a solid 8B as long as he adds 180 lbs.

    FREE TIMO!

  54. nunacanadien says:

    But aww, remember in Florida when Gainey was asked if he would spend big money, we always seem to see these small contracts in Montreal in comparison to other teams who pay big money to attract stars.  Instead Gainey signs these contracts, overpays mediocre players, and has nothing left over to pay for real talent.  Sure Bob doesn’t mind spending retirement salaries to washed up veterans, and overpay young talent, and then get ripped off by someone like Gomez.

  55. punkster says:

    And yet…and yet…we beat ‘em both, fair and square. That’s just one of the many things that made those series so special. I know the Halaktites site the goalie as the only reason but the dogged determination of the entire team, their ability to take the punishment, the amazing shot blocking, the timely scoring and yes, the goaltending, helped make these series among the most memorable we’ve seen from this team in years. Good times indeed.

    FREE TIMO!

  56. mbplekfan says:

    An RFA has two options. Sign the contract offered, or dont sign the contract offered.

    By not signing the contract RFA’s are fooled by their agents into thinking they are accomplishing something. The GM’s created the system, have informally outlawed offer sheets and are just sitting back refusing to negotiate against themselves.

    In order to pay off the ridiculous deals offered to UFA’s, the GMs need to keep their RFA costs way down.

    All contracts will be signed in due time and the RFA’s will go back to work.

    Today’s NHL is about paying your dues and funding the Souray’s and Huet’s of the league.

  57. mike g says:

    Yo Storm…

    How do I send you my e-mail without posting it here, so that u can send me the invite for the pool?

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  58. Chorske says:

    Stats shmats! My day job is stats. When I come to HIO, I prefer to pull data from my a**.

    ;)

    Oh and: Mike Keane.

  59. shiram says:

    The comic book its based on is pretty good, none of that superhero spandex stuff.
    I am looking forward to the tv series.


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