Update: Markov talks yet to begin

• Andrei Markov might be headed into his contract’s final season with the Canadiens without talks having begun on keeping him with the team beyond 2010-11. Radio-Canada’s Jean-François Chaumont has Markov agent Don Meehan saying that Habs GM Pierre Gauthier recently told Meehan that “(Gauthier) wants to wait until the right time” to talk contract.

New Canadien Ian Schultz in conversation with CJAD’s Rick Moffat (audio, no idea the vintage of the interview)

Road-warrior alert: HIO friend Kevin van Steendelaar has put together this excellent guide to ticket sales for Canadiens road games.

• Brian La Rose at habsworld.net on the contract situation of goalie Carey Price.

• Robert Lefebvre with yet another interesting project: A series profiling the Canadiens’ top 25 players under the age of 25.

414 Comments

  1. ooder says:

    i dunno i still think penguins@canadiens game 4 i think it was was the worst.

    it was non call after non call for Cindy and his crew who got away with everything.

    tripping, slashing, interference, roughing you name it

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    88 is the new 23

  2. BJT says:

    Yeah I remember that.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry

  3. WarHero says:

    haha, nice 🙂 lol

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  4. scrowe21 says:

    PK better not have been involved in that trade offer..

    ——–If you play nhl10 for xbox360 add me – scrowe21

    http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/24279250

    My spinorama shootout goal with Cammy

  5. BJT says:

                                           !!BREAKING NEWS!!

    DAVE STUBBS HAS A NEW PICTURE!!!!

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry

  6. andrewberkshire says:

    I know this is completely off topic, but I was watching the highlights of the series against the Capitals and I can’t help but think if Game 2 in Washington was the absolute worst officiating in the history of the NHL. I don’t want to say it was called in or there was a conspiracy, but the Capitals got away with about 30 blatant calls as they played the worst goaltender interference I’ve ever seen.

  7. Propwash says:

    I’d like to see Lang back.

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  8. observer says:

    It’s the opposite. It is they who want to learn how he became so skillful.

  9. observer says:

    Bettman wants Kovalchuk in Los Angeles – every deal the Devils present the NHL will be rejected.

  10. BJT says:

    Yeah, they’re with Tyler Seguin (who Subban is repeatedly schooling) in Toronto, with a company called “Biosteel”.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry

  11. shiram says:

    Thats the biosteel camp, some videos have been posted on youtube if you want to look them up

  12. BJT says:

    Avstin, AK, 2nd round pick for the rights to Ryan? Sounds like a plan.

    AK’s cap hit is 3.2, so that would help Ryan’s contract fit.

    Maybe Hamrlik? Their D sucks.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry

  13. shiram says:

    its on yahoo sports as well

    edit : the Kovalchuk deal anyways.

  14. observer says:

    just what do you think they would say?

  15. joeybarrie says:

    In truth…ME TOO.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  16. observer says:

    surprise ! surprise! i think 2 seasons ago florida marlins received from mlb $30 million in revenue sharing to help small market teams sign players – the marlins entire payroll that season was under $13 million, loria put the rest in his pocket.

  17. gloveside says:

    I know it’s just a rumour from a not-exactly-reputable site but, has anyone else heard this?

     

    http://hockeyfuzz.ca/rumors/2010/08/25/wednesday-morning-rumors/

  18. puck face says:

    ha! you pitty the fool.

  19. derfab says:

    Yup. ithink they call it the big apple.

    character is derfab destiny.

  20. derfab says:

    geez, disagreeable.

    character is derfab destiny.

  21. ooder says:

    Gillette is a cheapskate??? Gainey is a cheapskte??

    lol oh nuna u have completly lost it up there in the cold haven’t you.

    The habs have the nicest traning facility by far, paid for by Gillette

    he also took the team and multiplied it’s value.

    He always lets Gainey spend to the cap as well

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    88 is the new 23

  22. habinypsi says:

    I saw a article on the Canadiens.com about PK and said he has been training w/Cammy and Gomez this summer. Good to see some of the more vet guys taking him under there wing.

  23. derfab says:

    Yup, he’s always looked like a happy camper to me. I believe horse-hockey is the term.

    Waiting 12 years to decide it’s time to avoid Visa crap doesn’t mean you want to stay. Unless Gauthier opens the vault wide, the next contract he signs could very well qualify him for a U.S. passport too.

    character is derfab destiny.

  24. K-hab25 says:

    Pot Meet Kettle

  25. Mr-T says:

    He would, except that he is afraid of the boogie man.

  26. JD_ says:

    Andrei Markov hasn’t signed.

    In other news, agent Don Meehan notes talks between the Montreal Canadiens and up-and-comin’ prospect William “Silly Billykins” Johnstone are at a standstill. Considered a “sure thing” after not falling down on his skates for a period of five minutes, the three year-old native from Thunder Bay, Ontario is known to work out on the homemade rink in the backyard of the TiddlyWiddlyTots nursery school, also located in Thunder Bay.

    Negotiation sticking points appear to be William’s penchant for pulling hair and eating crayons.

  27. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Haha, there are ALWAYS people complaining! This is why I love Habs Inside/ Out. 

  28. Mikey_39 says:

    Gauthier better not screw up the Markov situation.  I feel like it’s been one screw up after another, and if he messes up something with Markov, I pray that GMolson will can him

  29. slamtherimtim says:

    talk about being a troll , cant you let anyone have an opinion you dont agree with

  30. joeybarrie says:

    Clearly the fact that Price isnt signed and that PG traded Halak. It just goes to show how awful our team is. A bunch of vegan smurfs, who can’t accomplish anything… I mean I think we all know that BECAUSE of our management not wanting to pay two number 1 goalies almost 7 million dollars we will clearly lose MARKOV and end up signing Carl Gunnarsson to replace him… Its not like our management had given us any hope in the last 6 years. Things I would have been looking for to show me that we were doing a good job…

    -Bring in a few excellent players, possibly considered to be or will be ELITE.

    -Fill in the holes of our team and create 2 lines that can score 400 points.

    -Get in some young talent to supplement our drafts, something like maybe 4-5 young guys who can be a top two line player

    -Finish higher in the standings

    -Go further in the playoffs

    -Have a few seperate players who can be in the top 20 in each of Goals, Assists, and Points in the league.

                WAIT, WHAT? YOU SAY WE DID ALL THIS IN THE LAST 5 YEARS??? WHAT ARE WE COMPLAINING ABOUT THEN???

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  31. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    That is absolutely sickening, but not at all surprising. It has been known for a long time in this city that Jeffrey Loria and David Samson fall under the category of “scum of the Earth”. Absolutely appalling.

  32. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Free agent forward Raffi Torres has signed a one-year, $1 million contract with the Vancouver Canucks.

    – TSN

    Never really liked him personally. He can get 19 goals but he’s VERY inconsistent.

    Aaand the Canucks are now 3.7 M ABOVE cap hit.

  33. joshua94k says:

    Is there any update on Guy Lafleur signing on as Canadiens Ambassador. Let’s see who signs first. Him or Carey Price.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammallerie

  34. andrewberkshire says:

    Gotta love it when people spout absolute horse crap about a player when all evidence points to the contrary.

  35. WarHero says:

    I disagree with your disagreeing about Markov

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    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  36. Jordio-oh says:

    Yeah you’re right, these two goals were definitely ugly rebound deflection goals.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxKnOh59khQ&feature=related

     

  37. Mark C says:

    So because he didn’t have 10 goals and 20 point in a playoff series he had to be hurt? His shooting % was higher in the playoffs than the regular season. Two of his goals were shots from the slot and another was a high point shot coming off a rush. He might have been hurt (who isn’t that time of the year) but after watching the below highlights I see no reason to assume he was dealing with any injury that was greatly hindering his game.  Montreal’s D for the most part, played in front of him, giving him more east-west, while taking away north-south. This game plan did frustrate him at times, however it’s nothing new. It’s a maxim that scoring becomes tougher in the playoffs, and the percentage of garbage goals increases. 

    http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlp=8471214He

  38. puck face says:

    haha! but don’t you have too spend days crunching the most abscure stats before coming to that conclussion? please go back and try again , i have no faith in your selection.

  39. pic1983 says:

    very well said

  40. Chorske says:

    Right. He just got his Canadian citizenship cos it comes with a prize in the box.

    errors are derfab destiny

  41. RGM says:

    Smart on the part of the GM to not enter into discussions about a contract renewal/extension for Markov until we’ve had the opportunity to see what he can do post-injury. An ACL is no small thing to recover from, and the GM is astute to hold off on talks until he and the organization can determine whether he’s lost a step or will be the same All-Star d-man that we’ve come to appreciate so much with the team.

    —————————————– Josh Gorges for Captain!

  42. Chorske says:

    You know Robinson would be #1 on that list

  43. pic1983 says:

    Markov luke warm on staying here? I dont buy that at all.  The guy isnt exactly Mr. Socialite and he just got his canadien citizenship.  He doesnt strike me as the type of who will go wherever he gets top dollar.  As long as we dont dramatically lowball him or alienate him, he stays in MTL.  Obviously, not letting him get to july 1st would help in keeping him here.

  44. puck face says:

    can somebody please confiscate Robert Lefebre’s computer before he goes crazy trying to compile a list of the top 10 habs to play with their socks turned inside out sporting a handle bar moustach while surpressing chronic flatulence. also , let him know it’s ok to leave his basement once in a while.

  45. Mats Naslund says:

    They are ALL comparable in that they all expect to make more than the normal 2nd level contract but have NO bargaining chips to negotiate with except WAITING! The ONLY difference is that Price’s club is the Canadiens – whose fanbase requires constant controversy – real or imagined in order to make it through the work week.

  46. nunacanadien says:

    Ok 3 years going in, Price has not shown he has it.  In fact, he probably is more injured than we know, similar to Markov’s injury, a leg injury for a defense or a goalie is a career ender.  All we have to do is watch Johnson flopping around the ice a few years in, he was supposed to be the answer to Markov not being good enough to save Price.  But these injured players come cheap, and we get a whole slew of them year in and year out.  Its time we stopped this, and actually concentrated on building a team.  Not a cheap rebuild that will bring in fans to fill the Centre.

  47. Mats Naslund says:

    Give me a break – every reasonable hockey mind involved with the Canadiens has publicly said that the negotiations are fine and that everyone expects to have the situation resolved… but that is not good enough for the wing-nut, irrational, overly simplistic “fans” of this team who need to spread their poison throughout this club any time there is a young player who doesn’t turn into Guy Lafleur.

     

    If Price “wanted out” wouldn’t he have said ANYTHING to that effect? 

     

     

  48. StevieRay says:

    I’m a looooong way from being 23 .. but I agree … why would he want to play for us ..with all the BS  and the Halak worshippers !!!!

    The fact that we’re close to the lowest scoring team in the league and consistently get outshot 2 -1 as well as the Euros on D playing better in front on Halak ….       nufff said ! 

  49. WarHero says:

    Steve Downie re-ups in Tampa.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=331602

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  50. derfab says:

    Disagree on Markov. I think he is luke warm about staying here and the Habs know it. I do think your call for a solid vet to lead and fill in is dead on though.

    character is derfab destiny.

  51. habfan01 says:

    And on a completely unrelated note. Yahoo Sports has an article about David Samson and Jeffrey Loria deceiving the public about their finances to get taxpayers to pay for their new baseball stadium

  52. nunacanadien says:

    Come on now, grow up, it seems that the Price fans are around the same age as Price, spoiled brats who want the world given to them on a silver platter.  Well grow up, learn to live with what you created.  Granted some of it was because of that cheap skate Gillette and his emphasis on finding a way to pay for his Liverpool soccer team, and selling cheap Habs junket crap, if Gillette really believed in Hockey, we would not have gotten what we got for so cheap for so long.  Gainey is a cheapskate, which is why he was hired by that other cheapskate Gillette.  Its time we got real hockey managers in, not some concert promoter/GM.

  53. Omit says:

    And, then again, maybe not.

  54. derfab says:

    3 or 4 at best, starting with Ryan, can be considered comparable. The others are guys with one foot in the door.

    character is derfab destiny.

  55. cautiousoptimist says:

    Probably Gauthier just wants to make sure Markov’s latest injury doesn’t have lasting effects before they talk dollars and long-term contracts.  That’s not crazy.

    The more I look at our team, the more I think we need one or two cheap, dependable injury replacements at forward.  And damn, I would have loved to pick up Raffi Torres for the $1M Vancouver just paid.  For the same money, I’d pick up one of these guys too (probably doable since they’re still available at the end of August):

    • Bill Guerin: 21 goals last year, scores clutch goals, leads by example, and would take a barrage of bullets for his teammates.  he can also fill Pouliot’s shoes if the young gun goes bust or gets hurt.
    • Robert Lang, if he’s healthy: Had a lower-body injury that ended his season, but the guys is still a horse.  I don’t care how old he is — he was good for 0.5 PPG last year (perfect for 3rd-line duty) and is great cheap insurance to have if one of our top thee centres get hurt.
    • Evgeny Artyukhin: he’s a great thing for a team to have: a tough guy who isn’t a defensive liability.  He knows he doesn’t have to score — he just has to eat up minutes when needed and enforce the law.  He was a respectable -4 on a lousy team where Bogosian was -18.

    Am I missing anyone?

    1. http://www.flickeringpictures.com – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  56. Psycho29 says:

    Robert Dirk or Murray Baron?

  57. Psycho29 says:

    Mushroom Omlette???  🙂

  58. observer says:

    Maybe Price wants out – end of story! Maybe he thought for sure the Habs would keep Halak and trade him away? Maybe he is furious with Gainey/Gauthier for putting him through this knowing full well if he plays for the Habs this season again as soon as he makes a bad play or even if it’s not his fault as a goal is scored on him, he knows the fans here are waiting to jump on him?

  59. Mats Naslund says:

    Everyone should go read that short piece by HabsWorld. People jump to ridiculous conclusions about Price’s situation.. The article clearly shows that he is among a group of 10 similar players (now that Hornqvist has signed) who are all under 23, have no arbitration rights and are coming off of their entry contracts. He is not holding out. We all complain that big names don’t want the pressure, and then we freak out about rumours and media created problems. 

  60. Dave Stubbs says:

    I’ll be back into hockey soon enough, Chuck. More of those features to come.

    For me, the NASCAR race in Montreal this weekend comes first — feature coming tomorrow on Patrice Brisebois now being the driver/owner of a Canadian Tire Series team; see him race on TSN and RDS Sunday at 11:45 am ET — then a few days off before Habs rookie camp begins, the team’s golf tournament, then the main camp.

    Dave Stubbs
    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette
    • On Twitter: twitter.com/habsinsideout1

  61. derfab says:

    In short, Price. Though you also have to consider that those 2 would have to be replaced by comparable pros not presently on the roster.

    character is derfab destiny.

  62. derfab says:

    With the PP and puck posession time the caps had (complete domination) he should have had doublethose totals. The goals he did manage to get were a-typically of the ugly, rebound, hit a leg kind.
    His jump (first 2 strides)was clearly compromised and he was frustrated by the inability to beat slower players to the puck, only successful when it dawned on the neanderthal that he would have to crash the net to get anywhere.

    character is derfab destiny.

  63. punkster says:

    Lola?

    FREE TIMO!

  64. Mark C says:

    Ovechkin had 5 goals and 10 points in those 7 games, what do you mean he was clearly injuried and a pylon could have played D on him?

  65. Malreg says:

    Both Hamrlik and AK’s contracts are up at the end of this year, so why would they have to be traded to make room to sign Markov to an extension, which would only take effect next year?

     

  66. Xtrahabsfan says:

    That not what we do here in B.C.! …LOL

  67. Chuck says:

    Hey Dave, how about another of your phenomenal write-ups on a too-forgotten Hab? It’s always great to see what ex-players are up to nowadays. Surely there’s a number or two in your little black book.  🙂

  68. derfab says:

    OK. I’ll bite. Gauthier , if he has balls and a brain (not sure what the Halak trade proves there) may be thinking deal to clear up space to sign his 2 franchise guys.

    Any one of Hamrlik, Spacek or AK would not hurt much (though Hamr is still a very good d-man), would take the pressure off and also make it much easier to make Pricey and Marki velly, velly HAAAPPPY.

     

    By the way, those commentators who argued that Spacek was great during the playoffs had to be watching Gorges and didn’t notice that a pylon was often enough to bother Ovie, who clearly (groin injury) had no jump to get himself open. Hamrlik and Gill were even better on Crosby and Malkin.

    Though he has an excuse after being moved to the right D side, Spacek was brought in as a puck moving shooter and, in that respect at least, has to be considered a disappointment.

    character is derfab destiny.

  69. Chuck says:

    A little early to hit the sauce and pharmaceuticals, isn’t it? Is your last name Boone?  🙂

  70. Dave Stubbs says:

    S-L-O-W   N-E-W-S   M-O-N-T-H

    Dave Stubbs
    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette
    • On Twitter: twitter.com/habsinsideout1

  71. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Carey Price will sign after his Ransom demands are met but if he don’t I can’t wait for his followings too blame the Fans and the Tax’s and the Language and the team and the weather and the………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

  72. redgorf says:

    Markov has had back to back injuries so its fair to evaluate how the rehab has restored his ability and agility, some players loose noticable capabilities after such injuries.

  73. Danno says:

    S-L-O-W   N-E-W-S   D-A-Y

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  74. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I would not worry about this. He will be signed during this season, if not, the Habs organization is crazy.


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