Update: Markov talks yet to begin

• Andrei Markov might be headed into his contract’s final season with the Canadiens without talks having begun on keeping him with the team beyond 2010-11. Radio-Canada’s Jean-François Chaumont has Markov agent Don Meehan saying that Habs GM Pierre Gauthier recently told Meehan that “(Gauthier) wants to wait until the right time” to talk contract.

New Canadien Ian Schultz in conversation with CJAD’s Rick Moffat (audio, no idea the vintage of the interview)

Road-warrior alert: HIO friend Kevin van Steendelaar has put together this excellent guide to ticket sales for Canadiens road games.

• Brian La Rose at habsworld.net on the contract situation of goalie Carey Price.

• Robert Lefebvre with yet another interesting project: A series profiling the Canadiens’ top 25 players under the age of 25.


  1. ooder says:

    i dunno i still think penguins@canadiens game 4 i think it was was the worst.

    it was non call after non call for Cindy and his crew who got away with everything.

    tripping, slashing, interference, roughing you name it


    88 is the new 23

  2. BJT says:

    Yeah I remember that.


    Formerly known as Camel_Larry

  3. WarHero says:

    haha, nice :) lol


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  4. scrowe21 says:

    PK better not have been involved in that trade offer..

    ——–If you play nhl10 for xbox360 add me – scrowe21


    My spinorama shootout goal with Cammy

  5. BJT says:

                                           !!BREAKING NEWS!!



    Formerly known as Camel_Larry

  6. andrewberkshire says:

    I know this is completely off topic, but I was watching the highlights of the series against the Capitals and I can’t help but think if Game 2 in Washington was the absolute worst officiating in the history of the NHL. I don’t want to say it was called in or there was a conspiracy, but the Capitals got away with about 30 blatant calls as they played the worst goaltender interference I’ve ever seen.

  7. Propwash says:

    I’d like to see Lang back.


    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  8. observer says:

    It’s the opposite. It is they who want to learn how he became so skillful.

  9. observer says:

    Bettman wants Kovalchuk in Los Angeles – every deal the Devils present the NHL will be rejected.

  10. BJT says:

    Yeah, they’re with Tyler Seguin (who Subban is repeatedly schooling) in Toronto, with a company called “Biosteel”.


    Formerly known as Camel_Larry

  11. shiram says:

    Thats the biosteel camp, some videos have been posted on youtube if you want to look them up

  12. BJT says:

    Avstin, AK, 2nd round pick for the rights to Ryan? Sounds like a plan.

    AK’s cap hit is 3.2, so that would help Ryan’s contract fit.

    Maybe Hamrlik? Their D sucks.


    Formerly known as Camel_Larry

  13. shiram says:

    its on yahoo sports as well

    edit : the Kovalchuk deal anyways.

  14. observer says:

    just what do you think they would say?

  15. joeybarrie says:

    In truth…ME TOO.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  16. observer says:

    surprise ! surprise! i think 2 seasons ago florida marlins received from mlb $30 million in revenue sharing to help small market teams sign players – the marlins entire payroll that season was under $13 million, loria put the rest in his pocket.

  17. gloveside says:

    I know it’s just a rumour from a not-exactly-reputable site but, has anyone else heard this?



  18. puck face says:

    ha! you pitty the fool.

  19. derfab says:

    Yup. ithink they call it the big apple.

    character is derfab destiny.

  20. derfab says:

    geez, disagreeable.

    character is derfab destiny.

  21. ooder says:

    Gillette is a cheapskate??? Gainey is a cheapskte??

    lol oh nuna u have completly lost it up there in the cold haven’t you.

    The habs have the nicest traning facility by far, paid for by Gillette

    he also took the team and multiplied it’s value.

    He always lets Gainey spend to the cap as well


    88 is the new 23

  22. habinypsi says:

    I saw a article on the Canadiens.com about PK and said he has been training w/Cammy and Gomez this summer. Good to see some of the more vet guys taking him under there wing.

  23. derfab says:

    Yup, he’s always looked like a happy camper to me. I believe horse-hockey is the term.

    Waiting 12 years to decide it’s time to avoid Visa crap doesn’t mean you want to stay. Unless Gauthier opens the vault wide, the next contract he signs could very well qualify him for a U.S. passport too.

    character is derfab destiny.

  24. K-hab25 says:

    Pot Meet Kettle

  25. Mr-T says:

    He would, except that he is afraid of the boogie man.

  26. JD_ says:

    Andrei Markov hasn’t signed.

    In other news, agent Don Meehan notes talks between the Montreal Canadiens and up-and-comin’ prospect William “Silly Billykins” Johnstone are at a standstill. Considered a “sure thing” after not falling down on his skates for a period of five minutes, the three year-old native from Thunder Bay, Ontario is known to work out on the homemade rink in the backyard of the TiddlyWiddlyTots nursery school, also located in Thunder Bay.

    Negotiation sticking points appear to be William’s penchant for pulling hair and eating crayons.

  27. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Haha, there are ALWAYS people complaining! This is why I love Habs Inside/ Out. 

  28. Mikey_39 says:

    Gauthier better not screw up the Markov situation.  I feel like it’s been one screw up after another, and if he messes up something with Markov, I pray that GMolson will can him

  29. slamtherimtim says:

    talk about being a troll , cant you let anyone have an opinion you dont agree with

  30. joeybarrie says:

    Clearly the fact that Price isnt signed and that PG traded Halak. It just goes to show how awful our team is. A bunch of vegan smurfs, who can’t accomplish anything… I mean I think we all know that BECAUSE of our management not wanting to pay two number 1 goalies almost 7 million dollars we will clearly lose MARKOV and end up signing Carl Gunnarsson to replace him… Its not like our management had given us any hope in the last 6 years. Things I would have been looking for to show me that we were doing a good job…

    -Bring in a few excellent players, possibly considered to be or will be ELITE.

    -Fill in the holes of our team and create 2 lines that can score 400 points.

    -Get in some young talent to supplement our drafts, something like maybe 4-5 young guys who can be a top two line player

    -Finish higher in the standings

    -Go further in the playoffs

    -Have a few seperate players who can be in the top 20 in each of Goals, Assists, and Points in the league.


    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  31. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    That is absolutely sickening, but not at all surprising. It has been known for a long time in this city that Jeffrey Loria and David Samson fall under the category of “scum of the Earth”. Absolutely appalling.

  32. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Free agent forward Raffi Torres has signed a one-year, $1 million contract with the Vancouver Canucks.

    – TSN

    Never really liked him personally. He can get 19 goals but he’s VERY inconsistent.

    Aaand the Canucks are now 3.7 M ABOVE cap hit.

  33. joshua94k says:

    Is there any update on Guy Lafleur signing on as Canadiens Ambassador. Let’s see who signs first. Him or Carey Price.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammallerie

  34. andrewberkshire says:

    Gotta love it when people spout absolute horse crap about a player when all evidence points to the contrary.

  35. WarHero says:

    I disagree with your disagreeing about Markov


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  36. Jordio-oh says:

    Yeah you’re right, these two goals were definitely ugly rebound deflection goals.



  37. Mark C says:

    So because he didn’t have 10 goals and 20 point in a playoff series he had to be hurt? His shooting % was higher in the playoffs than the regular season. Two of his goals were shots from the slot and another was a high point shot coming off a rush. He might have been hurt (who isn’t that time of the year) but after watching the below highlights I see no reason to assume he was dealing with any injury that was greatly hindering his game.  Montreal’s D for the most part, played in front of him, giving him more east-west, while taking away north-south. This game plan did frustrate him at times, however it’s nothing new. It’s a maxim that scoring becomes tougher in the playoffs, and the percentage of garbage goals increases. 


  38. puck face says:

    haha! but don’t you have too spend days crunching the most abscure stats before coming to that conclussion? please go back and try again , i have no faith in your selection.

  39. pic1983 says:

    very well said

  40. Chorske says:

    Right. He just got his Canadian citizenship cos it comes with a prize in the box.

    errors are derfab destiny

  41. RGM says:

    Smart on the part of the GM to not enter into discussions about a contract renewal/extension for Markov until we’ve had the opportunity to see what he can do post-injury. An ACL is no small thing to recover from, and the GM is astute to hold off on talks until he and the organization can determine whether he’s lost a step or will be the same All-Star d-man that we’ve come to appreciate so much with the team.

    —————————————– Josh Gorges for Captain!

  42. Chorske says:

    You know Robinson would be #1 on that list

  43. pic1983 says:

    Markov luke warm on staying here? I dont buy that at all.  The guy isnt exactly Mr. Socialite and he just got his canadien citizenship.  He doesnt strike me as the type of who will go wherever he gets top dollar.  As long as we dont dramatically lowball him or alienate him, he stays in MTL.  Obviously, not letting him get to july 1st would help in keeping him here.

  44. puck face says:

    can somebody please confiscate Robert Lefebre’s computer before he goes crazy trying to compile a list of the top 10 habs to play with their socks turned inside out sporting a handle bar moustach while surpressing chronic flatulence. also , let him know it’s ok to leave his basement once in a while.

  45. Mats Naslund says:

    They are ALL comparable in that they all expect to make more than the normal 2nd level contract but have NO bargaining chips to negotiate with except WAITING! The ONLY difference is that Price’s club is the Canadiens – whose fanbase requires constant controversy – real or imagined in order to make it through the work week.

  46. nunacanadien says:

    Ok 3 years going in, Price has not shown he has it.  In fact, he probably is more injured than we know, similar to Markov’s injury, a leg injury for a defense or a goalie is a career ender.  All we have to do is watch Johnson flopping around the ice a few years in, he was supposed to be the answer to Markov not being good enough to save Price.  But these injured players come cheap, and we get a whole slew of them year in and year out.  Its time we stopped this, and actually concentrated on building a team.  Not a cheap rebuild that will bring in fans to fill the Centre.

  47. Mats Naslund says:

    Give me a break – every reasonable hockey mind involved with the Canadiens has publicly said that the negotiations are fine and that everyone expects to have the situation resolved… but that is not good enough for the wing-nut, irrational, overly simplistic “fans” of this team who need to spread their poison throughout this club any time there is a young player who doesn’t turn into Guy Lafleur.


    If Price “wanted out” wouldn’t he have said ANYTHING to that effect? 



  48. StevieRay says:

    I’m a looooong way from being 23 .. but I agree … why would he want to play for us ..with all the BS  and the Halak worshippers !!!!

    The fact that we’re close to the lowest scoring team in the league and consistently get outshot 2 -1 as well as the Euros on D playing better in front on Halak ….       nufff said ! 

  49. WarHero says:

    Steve Downie re-ups in Tampa.



    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  50. derfab says:

    Disagree on Markov. I think he is luke warm about staying here and the Habs know it. I do think your call for a solid vet to lead and fill in is dead on though.

    character is derfab destiny.

  51. habfan01 says:

    And on a completely unrelated note. Yahoo Sports has an article about David Samson and Jeffrey Loria deceiving the public about their finances to get taxpayers to pay for their new baseball stadium

  52. nunacanadien says:

    Come on now, grow up, it seems that the Price fans are around the same age as Price, spoiled brats who want the world given to them on a silver platter.  Well grow up, learn to live with what you created.  Granted some of it was because of that cheap skate Gillette and his emphasis on finding a way to pay for his Liverpool soccer team, and selling cheap Habs junket crap, if Gillette really believed in Hockey, we would not have gotten what we got for so cheap for so long.  Gainey is a cheapskate, which is why he was hired by that other cheapskate Gillette.  Its time we got real hockey managers in, not some concert promoter/GM.

  53. Omit says:

    And, then again, maybe not.

  54. derfab says:

    3 or 4 at best, starting with Ryan, can be considered comparable. The others are guys with one foot in the door.

    character is derfab destiny.

  55. cautiousoptimist says:

    Probably Gauthier just wants to make sure Markov’s latest injury doesn’t have lasting effects before they talk dollars and long-term contracts.  That’s not crazy.

    The more I look at our team, the more I think we need one or two cheap, dependable injury replacements at forward.  And damn, I would have loved to pick up Raffi Torres for the $1M Vancouver just paid.  For the same money, I’d pick up one of these guys too (probably doable since they’re still available at the end of August):

    • Bill Guerin: 21 goals last year, scores clutch goals, leads by example, and would take a barrage of bullets for his teammates.  he can also fill Pouliot’s shoes if the young gun goes bust or gets hurt.
    • Robert Lang, if he’s healthy: Had a lower-body injury that ended his season, but the guys is still a horse.  I don’t care how old he is — he was good for 0.5 PPG last year (perfect for 3rd-line duty) and is great cheap insurance to have if one of our top thee centres get hurt.
    • Evgeny Artyukhin: he’s a great thing for a team to have: a tough guy who isn’t a defensive liability.  He knows he doesn’t have to score — he just has to eat up minutes when needed and enforce the law.  He was a respectable -4 on a lousy team where Bogosian was -18.

    Am I missing anyone?

    1. http://www.flickeringpictures.com – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  56. Psycho29 says:

    Robert Dirk or Murray Baron?

  57. Psycho29 says:

    Mushroom Omlette???  :-)

  58. observer says:

    Maybe Price wants out – end of story! Maybe he thought for sure the Habs would keep Halak and trade him away? Maybe he is furious with Gainey/Gauthier for putting him through this knowing full well if he plays for the Habs this season again as soon as he makes a bad play or even if it’s not his fault as a goal is scored on him, he knows the fans here are waiting to jump on him?

  59. Mats Naslund says:

    Everyone should go read that short piece by HabsWorld. People jump to ridiculous conclusions about Price’s situation.. The article clearly shows that he is among a group of 10 similar players (now that Hornqvist has signed) who are all under 23, have no arbitration rights and are coming off of their entry contracts. He is not holding out. We all complain that big names don’t want the pressure, and then we freak out about rumours and media created problems. 

  60. Dave Stubbs says:

    I’ll be back into hockey soon enough, Chuck. More of those features to come.

    For me, the NASCAR race in Montreal this weekend comes first — feature coming tomorrow on Patrice Brisebois now being the driver/owner of a Canadian Tire Series team; see him race on TSN and RDS Sunday at 11:45 am ET — then a few days off before Habs rookie camp begins, the team’s golf tournament, then the main camp.

    Dave Stubbs
    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette
    • On Twitter: twitter.com/habsinsideout1

  61. derfab says:

    In short, Price. Though you also have to consider that those 2 would have to be replaced by comparable pros not presently on the roster.

    character is derfab destiny.

  62. derfab says:

    With the PP and puck posession time the caps had (complete domination) he should have had doublethose totals. The goals he did manage to get were a-typically of the ugly, rebound, hit a leg kind.
    His jump (first 2 strides)was clearly compromised and he was frustrated by the inability to beat slower players to the puck, only successful when it dawned on the neanderthal that he would have to crash the net to get anywhere.

    character is derfab destiny.

  63. punkster says:



  64. Mark C says:

    Ovechkin had 5 goals and 10 points in those 7 games, what do you mean he was clearly injuried and a pylon could have played D on him?

  65. Malreg says:

    Both Hamrlik and AK’s contracts are up at the end of this year, so why would they have to be traded to make room to sign Markov to an extension, which would only take effect next year?


  66. Xtrahabsfan says:

    That not what we do here in B.C.! …LOL

  67. Chuck says:

    Hey Dave, how about another of your phenomenal write-ups on a too-forgotten Hab? It’s always great to see what ex-players are up to nowadays. Surely there’s a number or two in your little black book.  :)

  68. derfab says:

    OK. I’ll bite. Gauthier , if he has balls and a brain (not sure what the Halak trade proves there) may be thinking deal to clear up space to sign his 2 franchise guys.

    Any one of Hamrlik, Spacek or AK would not hurt much (though Hamr is still a very good d-man), would take the pressure off and also make it much easier to make Pricey and Marki velly, velly HAAAPPPY.


    By the way, those commentators who argued that Spacek was great during the playoffs had to be watching Gorges and didn’t notice that a pylon was often enough to bother Ovie, who clearly (groin injury) had no jump to get himself open. Hamrlik and Gill were even better on Crosby and Malkin.

    Though he has an excuse after being moved to the right D side, Spacek was brought in as a puck moving shooter and, in that respect at least, has to be considered a disappointment.

    character is derfab destiny.

  69. Chuck says:

    A little early to hit the sauce and pharmaceuticals, isn’t it? Is your last name Boone?  :)

  70. Dave Stubbs says:

    S-L-O-W   N-E-W-S   M-O-N-T-H

    Dave Stubbs
    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette
    • On Twitter: twitter.com/habsinsideout1

  71. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Carey Price will sign after his Ransom demands are met but if he don’t I can’t wait for his followings too blame the Fans and the Tax’s and the Language and the team and the weather and the………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

  72. redgorf says:

    Markov has had back to back injuries so its fair to evaluate how the rehab has restored his ability and agility, some players loose noticable capabilities after such injuries.

  73. Danno says:

    S-L-O-W   N-E-W-S   D-A-Y


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  74. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I would not worry about this. He will be signed during this season, if not, the Habs organization is crazy.

  75. Curtoph says:

    Probably just wants to wait till he’s healthy again

  76. WarHero says:

    I like Brian’s article as well and the fact that he points out what we have been saying here for ages about the amount of unsigned RFA’s.


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  77. WarHero says:

    He won’t, but the effects of injury could impact the term and amount. Makes sense to wait.


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  78. avatar_58 says:

    If Gauthier loses Markov…

  79. Number31 says:

    I seem to recall a similar premature fretting over Plekanec last season and that resolved itself nicely. If Markov is like Pleks (and he kind of already proved that by signing the contract he’s currently on when he did at that price) I wouldn’t worry so much about it…


    Oooo looking at that RFA list, would be awesome if the Habs could sneak Bergfors out of Atlanta. Trading him was a big mistake on the Devils part, I don’t care WHO they got in return.

  80. avatar_58 says:

    No I agree with that logic, I’m just saying he better not lose the guy. The way the agent is talking it sounds like they are dissapointed in not hearing from him.

  81. WarHero says:

    Good point! I’d like to hear Markov’s take on it.


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  82. G-Man says:

    Caring what an agent thinks is like caring what a tapeworm thinks. They’re both just parasites, so who gives a rat’s a$$?

  83. nunacanadien says:

    This sounds like when Koivu and Kovalev did not have their calls returned by the siamese twins Gauthier and Gainey.

  84. showey47 says:

    Wrong as usual koivu was leaving regardless and kovalev had an offer on the table but waited to long to gainey took gionta. You think the sens want to see #27 in their lineup again this year? Not a chance.

  85. habstrinifan says:

    Smartest thing Gainey did. Or did he really luck into it. Some say Gainey tried to get Kovalev back and Kovalev didnt respond to a contract offer in time. Some say Gainey worked it so Kovalev wouldnt want to sign. Whatever!

    This one time we were darn lucky. And wasnt it a shame to see habs fans, who are supposed to have inherited a legacy built by a galaxy of true immortals, organise a march in protest of losing Kovalev.


  86. StevieRay says:

    Torres just signed with the Canucks .. 1 year  @ 1 million …a drop of 1.75 million  from last year .

  87. habs03 says:

    Resigning Markov is going to be very easy imo. He wants to stay here, we want him here, end of story. I think P.G. just wants to wait and see what he wants to do to our D next year. I think Markov is going to get pretty the same contract that he is on now, 3 years ago had his big chance to clear the bank but he showed that he isn’t only about the money, so I don’t think he’ll be looking for a big raise. Hamrlik is most likely gone so we need a top 4 D-man to replace him, and as if Gill, I’m hoping O’B progess enough to be able to replace him on our 3rd pairing with Gorges.

  88. nunacanadien says:

    I guess Markov is wondering if Gauthier will sign a real goalie, instead of being blamed yet again for a dismal Carey Price year like he Carey had in 08-09. 

  89. Chuck says:

    Really? Was Markov “blamed” for Price’s phenomenal pre-All Star run that he had that season?

  90. Omit says:


    After reading several of your posts, I have come to this obvious conclusion.

    They are utter nunsense!

  91. punkster says:

    Just waiting for the League of Extraordinary Doom and Gloomers (LEDGers™) to wake up, log in and freak out over this Markov non-issue. I never make hockey predictions but HI/O predictions, fer sur. This single article will drive the comment count over 400 today.



  92. Chuck says:

    Just wait until those same LEDGers figure out that talks aren’t underway with Cammi, Gionta or Georges, either.

  93. JIMVINNY says:

    Oh, Chuck.  You know rational thought isn’t popular around here.  Why would you set yourself up to get flamed like that?  :)

  94. Chuck says:

    I’m a glutton for punishment.  :)

  95. habs4eternity says:

    Price has never been an allstar, never will be.

    he’s nothing more than a glorified overhyped minor leaguer.

    the year he was named an allstar- just a matter of hab fans being overzealous with  the ballot boxes.

    hell, hab fans would do anything to get a hab in, no matter how bad he is!

  96. Chuck says:

    I’d suggest that you go look up Price’s record leading up to the All-Star game, THEN try to make your case for him not being an All-Star.

  97. nunacanadien says:

    The allstars are really meant to be for pro hockey players who showed merit the year before, hence, they are all stars.  In this case we should have voted for Huet, but heck, we were all sold a bill of goods by Gainey and the rest is history.  Price is a washed up AHL goalie who injured his ankle and has never recovered from that injury.

  98. nunacanadien says:

    I recall Price fans blaming Markov only too soon, and this year oddly enough the same posters who defend Price, also crap on Markov for not stopping those shots on Price.  And now we have the alternate story of the Euros playing for Halak, but oddly enough from which European country is Gill from?  Or for that matter, Gorges, or Subban?  Or Cammy or Gionta?

  99. Chuck says:

    Uh, the All-Star balloting is to reflect the current season, not the previous one.

  100. nunacanadien says:

    We were also voting on the great season shown that year by Kovalev, Koivu, Huet, Markov, Souray, and of course the great promise of Price in winning with the Bulldogs the year before.  We all knew Price was hurt and we all hoped he would show us the same skill he showed in winning with the Bulldogs.  But those floaters started going in, and the rest is history as they say.  Sure Price should not wear all the blame, but he sure let those sure wins slip away, time after time, after time, and even last year when he was supposed to be perfectly healthy, yet a repeat of that time after the Allstars….

  101. nunacanadien says:

    A quick search of former posts all but illustrate, Price fans are oblivous to facts.  Just go back to habsinsideout and even Red Fisher questioned Price’s play, and pointed to hockey wives even.  Just google hockey wives and voila! Price’s name comes up.  Even hockey wives, as Red Fisher pointed out, questioned Gainey’s continued use of Price.

  102. K-hab25 says:

    16-4-4__2.42__.920 Notice the 4 losses in regulation, in 24 games. Ohh and he was 21 years old, not 24. He won’t be that old till next year.

  103. Chuck says:

    Hockey wives? Really? You’re making the argument that hockey wives are in a better position to evaluate player talent?

  104. Chuck says:

    You’re not making any sense. Come back after you formulate a coherent thought.

  105. K-hab25 says:

    He’s The Vinergar Troll, Chuck. Housewives are very important to his existence.

  106. Chuck says:

    Vinegar. The poor man’s hot sauce.

  107. ZepFan2 says:

    Just google hockey wives and voila! Price’s name comes up…

    No it doesn’t.


    Fyi, you don’t have to “go back” to habsinsideout, you’re already here.

    You really are a nuttercanadien!


    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  108. punkster says:

    It’s a conspiracy I tell you. A CONSPIRACY!


  109. drivefor25 says:

    You are so right! It’s a CONSPIRACY cooked up by the INCOMPETANTS.


    Fan since ’71

  110. kempie says:

    I have a question regarding RFAs. As I understand it, teams are expected or compelled somehow to offer an RFA a modest raise (5% or something). So let’s say, for example, a team has a player who makes, oh let’s say $3.25M. The team feels that he is worth maybe $2M at present. What are the teams options? If the rest of the league agrees that the player is overpaid, he’s not going to get an offer sheet. I don’t believe the team can offer less than what he’s making already. So now what? The team may have a better use for his salary but is there any way to move an RFA’s salary off the books without a trade, buyout or AHL assignment? Not naming player names or anything.

  111. likehoy says:

    well you can offer a different deal altogether, such as 3 years 2.5 million per year…instead of 1 year 3.5…

    choose to walkaway from it…or go to arbitration.

    but i’m not sure you can’t just not give the 5% raise.

    – I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  112. habinypsi says:

    Hawks forward J.Skille took a pay cut from 1.25 mill to 600,000 so he could have a better chance at being on the team.


  113. habs03 says:

    The best example is Dustin Boyd, he was a RFA with Nashville and his qauilfying offer would have been around 800K if they offered him one but they choice not to, and thats why he was a UFA on July 1st. Good thing because we signed him for only about 500K.

  114. mike g says:

    Is it just me, or is this the crappiest time of year for sports?

    There’s no hockey, just a bunch of ruuumors surrounding Kovalchuk and his 70 year deals with the Devil. I hear the NHL refused his 17 year deal not because of the huge decrease in salary in the last 6 years, but because he’d agreed that if he retired before the 17 years expired, he would work at one of the hot-dog stands in the Prudential Center. The NHL didn’t like that idea, and wanted Ilya to work at the Devils team store if he retired earlier. After weeks of trying to convince him, Ilya still wanted to make hot dogs because he argued that North America needs a taste of Russian hot dogs. The NHL refused, so no contract.

    And now the biggest news surrounding other sports are this:

    – Which NFL players cant complete a simple drill because they’re 412 lbs. overweight.

    – Which NFL players are tweeting before games and getting fined 25k for it.

    – Which 64 year old qb is un-retiring for the 9th time to play another season, and not win the Super Bowl. Then he keeps on saying he’s returning because he wants to win, and not because he will make 20 mill playing this year. I believe him, he’s always been honest with us, right? I mean, he never said he was gonna retire 4 times and then broke his words, right?….anyways…

    – Which team is gonna finish 1st in the AL East; Yanks or Rays. That’s the only thing still interesting now, every other spot is either locked up or it’s a fight between 2 teams. No big races this year…

    – In the NBA, well nothing worth noting because nobody on this site cares enough. But incase anyone’s wondering, Lebron’s took his talents down to South Beach.

    And that’s about it. This year we were blessed with the worst UFA crop in years, and it will always be remembered for that. It was the most boring July 1st that I can remember, especially when TSN was talking about the Leafs signing Armstrong for 3 hours. He deserves some tv coverage, but 3 hours just showed us how boring the day was.

    Please hockey, come back. Wow, I’m so bored.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  115. Storm Man says:

    NFL starts in 2 weeks :).

  116. derfab says:

    Call me Canadian if you insist, but while I used to play and follow baseballand football quite closely into the eighties, I can no longer stomach most pro sports besides hockey. Too many brutish, stupid egomaniacs on roids.

    character is derfab destiny.

  117. LA Loyalist says:

    Leafs signed George Armstrong?


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  118. kempie says:

    Come on, it was just a forward-looking hypothetical situation. I didn’t say it was a certain player. 

    BTW, hypothetically, he might be worth more like 2.5

  119. andrewberkshire says:

    If he has a good season, I’d be happy with having him back at the same salary, but if he struggles with consistency again we might have to just let him go.

    As per your actual question, I have no clue what the options are.

  120. kempie says:

    He never makes the decision easy so I’ll bet he has a great year. Contract year, “The Distraction” gone, team had a nice run. My feeling is that, since he’s such a slow starter, injuries are his nemesis. If he doesn’t start showing it until almost Christmas, an injury means another long wait to get him going again. If he stays healthy (and maybe starts camp in July) I’m sure the guy can put up numbers worth $3.25M.

  121. habinypsi says:

    The NHL has released the tv schedule for the season.

  122. RGM says:

    16 Habs games on TSN, not too bad. Granted, my official participation in Canadian bilingualism means I’ll have RDS for all 82, of course!

    —————————————– Josh Gorges for Captain!

  123. kempie says:

    This is what I was hoping was possible. If the team can offer a different, lesser salary deal then that seems fair.

  124. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Drats, I was kind of hoping we’d sign Torres, but suspected that he’d end up in Toronto for sure – he’s one of the few potential 2nd liners available and that team is desperate for anything above a 3rd liner, plus he played junior in the GTA.

    I guess he looked at offers from Vancouver and Toronto, then looked at Vancouver’s record and Toronto’s record, and went with Vancouver :)

  125. mbplekfan says:

    Torres has shown little ability to handle second line duty. He is a fringe third liner who has flashes of scoring. Mostly a good solid journeyman and we dont need one of those right now.

  126. mike g says:


    He’s a decent player, but nothing special. For 1 mill though, if he scores 19-20 goals like he did last year, it’s good. But he won’t get the icetime that he was getting in CLB in order for him to score that many. Plus the Sedins and Kessler will log big minutes and PP time.



    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  127. SeriousFan09 says:

    Torres is a 2nd liner if your team is crap generally. He’s a 3rd liner on an actual team.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  128. SeriousFan09 says:

    So nothing new has happened so it’s the same old stuff on Habs I/O. Price is immature and is our doom, we should’ve signed another 3rd liner someone else did and ManApart was generous enough to show up and once again tell us why we’re all stupid for believing the Habs can do well.

    Yesterday it was Shiloh, today it’s ManApart, before them it was Adam and Xtra. Did they organize a schedule to spread the negativity in the off-season?


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  129. mike g says:

    You forgot to mention a few things about HIO over the past few monts…

    – PG is a clown and has never won anything.

    – Stevie Y is Jesus himself, and automatically the best GM in NHL history.

    – We should trade Markov because 2 freak injuries have now apparently made him the most fragile player ever, even though he had never missed time in the 8 previous years.

    – We only won 24 games in regulation last year

    – Brett Favre and Lebron James

    – Everyone became a lawyer for a day and commented on Lafleur’s situation.


    There are many more, but I’m fed up…


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  130. Everlasting1 says:

    It’s called self honesty.


    Don’t pollute the water.

  131. GrimJim says:

    So in Toronto he’d be 1st line?

  132. habs4eternity says:

    1st liner on habs also. remember we;’re stuck with Gomer at 7.5 mil at a production of 12 goals/season. vomit vomit vomit.

  133. TorontoHabsFan says:

    I agree, that’s why I called him a potential 2nd liner. And yes, on the Leafs he’d be slotted on the 1st line easy :)


    I dunno, he seemed like a decent option for Montreal. I guess it all boils down to what our 3rd line is going to be – a somewhat more offensive 4th line or a training ground for more offensive young players, something like Eller-Pacioretty-and a grinder (like Lapierre or Moen).

    I’d prefer the latter…I never was all that hot on the Top 6/Bottom 6 divide – remember how great that 3rd line of Kostitsyn-Lang-Kostitsyn was before the doomed Barber Pole Game?

  134. LA Loyalist says:

    thank you. I’m glad I’m not the only one who can do math around here ($625,000 per goal).

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  135. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Bang on, after all, as EVERYBODY knows, goals are the only statistic recorded in hockey.

    *goes over to nhl.com to check*

    ummm….what are these “assist” things they keep talking about?


  136. Mark C says:

    Actually that poster didn’t get Gomez’ contract right, his cap hit is not $7.5M. Hey, you’re still the only one who can do math here!

    Also, Gomez was not traded for because of his goal scoring, he’s a playmaker. Saying Gomez is overpaid, or using goals as a benchmark for him, is like saying Gill is overpaid because he isn’t scoring goals.

    Everyone knows Gomez is overpaid, but if you feel the need to consistently point this out at least use relevant stats, such as points or assists.


  137. Mark C says:

    Only Thornton, Lidstrom, and Alfredson have more assists since 1999-2000.

  138. LA Loyalist says:

    Point taken, I will do my own research and compare him against playmaker guys (from our era) That will be interesting.

    The most important math about Habs is how many goals do they have to score before everyone gets free chicken wings at that bar… forgive me not remembering the name. is that promotion still on?

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  139. Mark C says:

    5 or more goals, believe its La Cage who give out the wings.

  140. Duracell3 says:

    And Gomez makes more than all of them, ROFL

  141. RGM says:

    Also up to another 25 on CBC depending on region, I suppose.

    —————————————– Josh Gorges for Captain!

  142. avatar_58 says:

    Funny how low those numbers are isn’t it? Should be 82 if you ask me…..all in HD and english. Bloody leafs.

  143. Rob says:

    CBC basically doesn’t air games outside of Saturday nights, with a few exceptions throughout the year, so no team (including the Leafs) gets the majority of their schedule covered by them.  In saying that, it appears that the Habs are the team CBC has hitched it’s horse to this year…at least after taking a quick glance at the CBC sched.  So i wouldn’t be too hard on CBC.  

  144. Storm Man says:

    Due to overwhelming response. I will be doing other 20 team ESPN fantasty hockey league. The first one filled up in one day. If you want to make sure you get a spot this time email me, so I can email you the infor before I post it on here, so that way you will have a spot and  others who joined the first league can join this one also. 

  145. habsfreak13 says:

    If we joined the first league, can we join this one as well? I’m usually in 3-4 leagues…

  146. nightmare_49 says:

    3:00pm, via Rich Hammond of LA Kings Insider,

    The Kings have reached an agreement with defenseman Willie Mitchell for a two-year contract worth $3.5 million per year.

  147. mike g says:

    That’s a nice deal for both sides…

    Not too much money, and 2 years is a decent contract for a player with concussion issues. If they pair him up with Drew or J-Johson, very nice. He’ll stay at home and allow the other d-man to rush the puck up.

    I still think LA is one forward away from being a serious contender though. Unless Ryan Smyth stays healthy AND Justin Willams wakes up, they won’t make the Finals.

    But, they’re headed for a Cup in the next 3-5 years. And Bernier will lift it, not Quick.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  148. habs001 says:

    i believe if price was playing for another team and had the same stats and hockey history as he has now and we picked him up most posters would be so excited getting a young  23 old goalie with potential..many of  the price bashers now would be excited to get price…at 23 it is way too early to write price off..because of many reasons this team beyond the playoff run was very average during the season …

  149. G-Man says:

    What is this obssession with defending Price? Look, he’s been designated “Mr. Potential” already. A goalie with a sub 500 record and a .910 save pctge. would be a questionable acquisition, kind of like where he is right now in his career. He’s been given the #1 role. Frankly, I don’t think he can handle it. However, I would still like it an awful lot if he proves me wrong. I think his biggest problems are tracking the puck and keeping focused. 2010/11 will make or break him in Montreal.

  150. Rob says:

    looks like the Habs are back in the forefront on CBC

  151. Say Ash says:

    I count:

    Montreal 29
    Toronto 24
    Ottawa 18
    Vancouver 14
    Edmonton 14
    Calgary 14

  152. LA Loyalist says:

    Cheer up!

    Only 30-some days to live ammo!


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  153. Rob says:

    self honesty?  you sure?  I think you may have this concept mixed up with “self importance”

  154. Everlasting1 says:

    Self importance? You must be a politician. If you’re optimistic and feeling ‘positive’ going into this season, that’s also being self honest.



    Don’t pollute the water.

  155. Rob says:

    yes but self honesty is also tied greatly to humility and modesty….something the people who were being referred to above show little of.  It has nothing to do with convincing everyone else that what you believe to be true is the ONLY truth.  Hence, self importance

  156. Everlasting1 says:

    Because all the true fans show humility and modesty in great abundance? lol. Please. I speak out on management’s inedequacies in a truthful fashion and get mobbed by the usual lot.

    ”We don’t see things as they are..but as we are” – Anais Nin


    Don’t pollute the water.

  157. Rob says:

    in fairness…you speak out on what you PERCEIVE to be managements inadequacies.  While i have no doubt that your belief is truthful, it does not make what you say truthful.  That will not be known for quite some time yet.  That being said, I think it’s probably unfair for people to “mob” anyone for their opinions. Perhaps, though, it is the way you present those opinions that causes such a reaction.  Maybe a more modest approach such as:

    In my opinion, management has made a number of mistakes in recent times and I fear for what it could mean to our club.  I hope that I am wrong, but truthfully I can’t see how that can be the case.  I just don’t understand a lot of the moves that they have made.

    I think, that anytime you preface your thoughts by recognizing that they merely represent your own personal opinion, you do not give attackers a leg to stand on.  If you insist on being righteous in your posts, however (and i’m not saying you have been…merely stating if), then i think it’s quite reasonable to expect that they will rub certain people the wrong way, and they will respond in kind.  Either way…i’m sure you will ultimately do and post whatever and however you want.  

  158. Everlasting1 says:

    The truth speaks for itself. History has a way of showing that.

    There are individuals ‘vibrating at different frequencies’ on both sides of any argument. One side is not better than the other in that respect. Clearly, age doesn’t equate to wisdom/maturity either.



    Don’t pollute the water.

  159. Rob says:

    100% with you on the lack of correlation between age and wisdom or maturity

  160. avatar_58 says:

    You know what really grinds my gears? Here in hamilton using shaw I *still* can’t get RDS HD yet I *still* pay extra for the “privellage” of RDS SD (and a bunch of french channels I don’t want).

    Why am I even paying for cable? I don’t get what I want yet get charged out the anus for this stuff. I just want hockey in HD (every game, not just a few). I’m not even complaining about the french, just the quality. Nonsense.


  161. Malreg says:

    You might as well hook up your computer or laptop to a TV, and stream it for free.  Quality isn’t the greatest, but it’s better then paying for standard definition.

  162. nightmare_49 says:

       Whats Going on with Bieksa ?

       from Jason Botchford of the Vancouver Province,



  163. Say Ash says:

    Willie Mitchell is a King

  164. LA Loyalist says:

    Is anyone else bummed that Murray Wilson won’t be on CJAD anymore? I listened to the games online and liked his sardonic commentary and I’ve not seen any comments on it (or perhaps missed them).

    Thoughts on a dull August day?


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  165. Sith says:

    Another article on Price’s contract? Ridiculous.

  166. Foppa says:

    I think this is a hude loss for CJAD. He was the main reason I would listen to the games on the radio rather then watch them on CBC. He always gave credit to players who didn’t always get credit and he would be honest if them team or certain players weren’t doing their job. He will be missed.

    To bad he couldn’t to some commetating on CBC instead of Bob Cole or Glen Healy

  167. JD_ says:

    * TSN Sportscentre anchors Darren Dutchyshen and Jennifer Hedger will be joining their RDS Sports 30 counterparts, Chantal Machabee and Marc Labrecque, in Wakefield, Qubec tomorrow as part of the Kraft Celebration Tour. The Tour, which recognizes grassroots sports in local communities, will see both programs aired live on location. Although hopes are runnin’ very, very, very high, no official word yet on plans for Jennifer and Chantal to engage in a friendly, giggle-filled wrestlin’ match followed by an extended makeout session durin’ the broadcast.

    * Rumour has Roberto Luongo steppin’ down and handin’ the ‘Nucks captaincy over to Henrik Sedin. No truth, however, to the rumour the “Joe Thornton of Netminders” will also be handin’ playoff goaltendin’ duties over to the 2010 Hart Trophy winner.

    * Unbelievably, the Shane Doan-Denis Coderre countersuits continue to wind their way through the courts. This all harks back to the alleged 2005 on-ice verbal incident involvin’ NHL linesman Michel Cormier and Doan’s selection to Team Canada in 2006, followin’ which the Ottawa MP figured he had himself an issue to exploit. Whatever the outcome, one thing remains certain: Coderre will forever remain an attention-starved fata$$.

    * Carey Price hasn’t signed. In other news, “Actor Jason Priestley joins push to save bears protecting B.C. grow-op”. See, the way the peckin’ order works is A-list stars get the high-profile stuff like disease, famine, and natural disasters, whereas D-listers get the scraps like, say, bears protectin’ grow-ops. Doreen McCrindle, the woman behind the push to protect the bears, “said she’s received hundreds offers of donations to pay for feeding stations or other solutions for the bears, described by police as lazy and well fed, including $1,300 from Priestley.” Interestin’ number that $1,300. Kinda makes one wonder if the Beverly Hills 90210 stash has finally been blown.

    * Gary Bettman opinin’ on the NHL’s participation at the 2014 Olympic winter games in Sochi, Russia, “Ultimately, when we focus on, at the right time, the decision-making process and what the issues are and how the IOC and the IIHF are prepared to address those issues, the Board will reason together and make an informed decision and we’ll see where we go from there.” C’mon, people, how can you not love this guy? Yeah, sure, I think’d be awesome if he just came out and told both the IOC and IIHF to “cough up the f*****’ money” but this is almost as entertainin’.

  168. The Cat says:

    I really dont like Glen Healy, he has no charisma, it cant be that hard to find someone better to replace him.


    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  169. SeriousFan09 says:

    How about a sock puppet?


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  170. mike g says:


    Finally. Too bad for the guy himself, hope he found another job.

    But from Habs fans pov’s, it should be a positive. He used to put me to sleep with his dull and slow voice. My friends and I used to make fun of him all the time. We switched over to the french feed on CKAC and never looked back. Those french dudes are so exciting and even the color commentator is exciting, Danny Dube.

    So to answer ur question, I’m happy. Maybe I’ll listen in English again and not fall asleep.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  171. likehoy says:

    who is replacing him?

    – I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  172. CBrady12 says:

    I completely agree…it was more boring than listening to baseball…honestly though, the problem wasnt Wilson, its the other guy doing play by play…he spends 75 % of the time yapping about sponsors and other useless crap instead of calling the game…you should hear his play by play for als games…makes me wanna blow my brains out!!!


  173. mike g says:

    Geln Healy is a bum.

    Him and Ray Ferraro are the 2 most annoying announcers on tv. Ray just sounds like he hates everyone, and repeats the same garbage over and over. Glen Healy is just clueless of whats actually goin on in the game, he always references his super non-HOF career, and usually chooses one player to pick on all night long.

    If I could vote to have 2 guys off tv, it would be them.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  174. SeriousFan09 says:

    Over Pierre Mcguire? Wow.



    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  175. CBrady12 says:


  176. mike g says:

    That’s Rick Moffat…

    Ya, ur right. He’s not the best, but wtv. It was Wilson who annoyed me more.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  177. SLONCOLD says:

    how about him interupting the play by play to scream “YESSSSS” or “OHHH NOOOO” lol way too much of a homer kinda thing…

  178. mike g says:

    Pierre would be in my top 5, but not before those 2….

    Glen Healy is a piece of junk, that’s why TSN canned his behind. There’s nothing more annoying that a know-it-all like Glen Healy running his mouth off on star players like Ovechkin and co, calling them out all the time. I remember once when TSN did a Caps-Leafs game, Healy was going on about how Ovi has no heart and will never lead the Caps to a Cup. He kept showing clips of Ovi at the blueline looking for passes, and skating slowly back to the bench for line changes.

    In the end, I think the Caps won 5-1 or 7-1 and Ovi had 2 goals + 1 assist. Like seriosuly, if he wanted to pick on any player that night he could have chosen so many other guys. But no, he went to chose Ovi who was the 1st star of the game instead of any Leafs player who obviously didn’t show up for that game.

    And also, during our series with the Pens this year he was so annoying. During game 2 he said we wouldn’t even win one game in the series, because the Habs don’t skate fast enough when we enter the ice before each period.

    In the end, we won game 2 and won the series.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  179. RGM says:

    I like this post.

    Josh Gorges for Captain!

  180. yathehabsrule says:

    I got an email from Rick Moffat a week or so ago. They were going through some final candidates to replace Murray Wilson, who stepped down to have more time with his family.



    Ya! The Habs Rule! now on Twitter!

  181. yathehabsrule says:

    Yeah just a tad, but when you heard an “Oh no, you knew something severley wrong happened.


    Ya! The Habs Rule! now on Twitter!

  182. mike g says:


    That’s another thing I can’t stand; homers.

    One area that I will always give credit to RDS for is their ability to make the otrher team sound better than they actually are. They’ll always compliment the other teams players, and when the opposition score a goal on the Habs they’ll actually have some life in them. Most home station feeds don’t do that, they’ll hardly even make a sound when a goal is scored by the other team.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  183. otter649 says:

    Chris Nilan said on Team 990 he would like the job as he is looking to relocate back in Montreal…….

  184. yathehabsrule says:

    Sponsors are out of CJAD’s control so they have to get them in there.

    If you are at the summit this year, you can express you’re concers about Rick’s “useless crap” to him.


    Ya! The Habs Rule! now on Twitter!

  185. mike g says:

    I like ur stick.

    J’aime ton baton.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  186. andrewberkshire says:

    I remember that last thing so well. He said before like every game that the Habs came out too business like and weren’t loose, whereas the Pens were loose and energetic. Who won that series again?

  187. The Cat says:



    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  188. The Cat says:

    Yeah I agree, he tries too hard to make a big impact. He really annoys me.


    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  189. mike g says:


    But the idiot didn’t realize that the Pens’ entrance to the ice was about 5 feet wide, and the tiny entrance the Habs had to enter the ice was barely 2 feet wide. So unless ur Brian Gionta, you gotta turn sideways to enter the ice if ur a visiting player. That explains why the Pens were able to run and jump onto the surface, while we had to basically inch our way past the door…

    But I guess that’s too hard for Healy to figure out, huh? Ya, his hate for the Habs and love for the Leafs showed a little too much on that one.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  190. mike g says:



    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  191. SeriousFan09 says:

    If you feel you were slighted by the Habs at some time in the last 40 years, CBC will hire you.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  192. cautiousoptimist says:


    1. http://www.flickeringpictures.com – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  193. LA Loyalist says:

    I believe Wilson and his wife have horses near Ottawa. 


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  194. LA Loyalist says:



    Jamie Storr Goalie School

    Visit Website

    Pro Camp 2010 – July 19th-23rd

    Main Camp 2010 – July 26th-30th – Group 1

    Main Camp 2010 – July 26th-30th – Group 2

    Visit the website for more information and details.





  195. LA Loyalist says:

    sorry for blowing up formatting.

  196. Ian Cobb says:

    My application is still on the table. I kind of liked both their styles, and they know the game well. But if I get the call , watch the ratings go through the roof, , or floor,!

  197. SeriousFan09 says:

    Randy Jones signs with Tampa Bay, plan the parade.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  198. The Cat says:

    Come on you got to admit, theyre trying to put the best team they can at least.


    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  199. The Cat says:

    How embarassing… hey everybody look: a poor formater! lol


    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  200. JIMVINNY says:

    So do we get to pick on you for messing up the spelling in your insult? 


    Just kidding, of course.

  201. LA Loyalist says:

    I cut and pasted for which I profoundly apologize. An ill-constructed joke.

    I just got so excited (reason being we lost our small gear store (at Toyota Center here in LA, Kings practice rink) and it is being replaced with Jamie Storr goalie school) at the idea of the joke.

    The funniest thing about the rink, which is really nice, 1 NHL pad, 1 Olympic pad, is there are like only 2 banners, one of which is from the 93 cup final, of course, and also seeing habs jerseys and interesting Canadian jerseys. I saw a kid in a Tim Horton’s jersey which for some reason cracks me up.

    The gear store used to be way bigger, but apparently Luc Robitaille needed an office, and it went downhill from there.

    Anyway, I will try and control myself and remember that half of a joke is, like pizza, in the delivery. :)





    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  202. Mark C says:

    This is a garbage post! This is absolute garbage! Gutless post!  


  203. Mark C says:

    Well, Steve Downie needed a running mate, right?

  204. The Cat says:

    Yes of course, all in good fun. Im no new age ruffian and the idea of mocking someone for formatting seemed so ridiculous and funny, the end goal was for LA loyalist to be sweating bullets next times he formats something :)


    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  205. LA Loyalist says:

    what’s great about your post is that it’s impossible to tell what is real and what is made up. that, amigo, is art of a high order.

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  206. Exit716 says:

    Excellent. I hope the team provides him with a complimentary Speedo.


  207. Clay4bc says:

    I’m a big fan of Murray…I’m sad he’s leaving, but happy that he stepped down instead of being forced out. I hope he enjoys his retirement…although to me, what he did calling the Habs games was too fun to be called a job!


    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

    — George Orwell —

  208. StephS says:

    Does anyone know when Zone De Match will be back online?

    I need to find a way to watch the games if its going to be a while.

    I was thinking on using Gamecenter Live but that doesn’t seem to be working for me.

  209. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    hey, as long as he wasn’t one of our coaching or playing prospects I’m happy as a clam.  bout time Tama started dealing with teams other than les glorieux.

  210. Chuck says:

    “At least” is right. :)

  211. Chuck says:

    Randy Jones, the “cowboy” in the Village People?! Plan the parade is right… and deck it out with rainbows!

  212. CBrady12 says:

    Thanks for explaining to me how sponsors work. Hey you know what? RDS has sponsors too yet somehow during their broadcast they don’t mention the sponsors while the play is going on. Unfortunately I wont be at the “Summit” but if I was I most definitely would express my concern…since his bad play by play has led me to tune over to the other station where I listen to THEIR sponsors…kidding…what do you want? I dont like the guys play by play…No need to be a smarta$$ about it.

  213. saskhabfan says:

    The leaf commentators are afraid to bash their own team because they don’t want to be “al strachaned”. Tsn and sportsnet are both leaf loving sports media and are both run in toronto. Its essentially a war between the 2 for ratings among viewers. Both are doing whatever hey can to cater to the leaf fan base. If one of the two sports channels starts bashing the leafs for any extended period of time,the viewers will leave the one and go to the other. I guess thats the beauty of rds,good or bad you only have the one real option. When things go bad in montreal the media calls,a turd exactly what it is,a turd.But in toronto when things go bad both tsn and sportsnet cover the turd with sprinkles and call it a candy apple in fear of losing ratings to the rival station.


    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  214. yathehabsrule says:

    Yes they do.


    Ya! The Habs Rule! now on Twitter!

  215. yathehabsrule says:

    Sergio Momesso was on hand for a lot of the psot-game segments during the playoffs, so he could be in the running.


    Ya! The Habs Rule! now on Twitter!

  216. Propwash says:

    TSN2 has the gold medal olympic hockey game on right now.


    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  217. yathehabsrule says:

    “RDS has sponsors too yet somehow during their broadcast they don’t mention the sponsors while the play is going on.”

    Yeah and there’s a lot of visual ads there though, right? How else are radio stations supposed to do ads?





    Ya! The Habs Rule! now on Twitter!

  218. SeriousFan09 says:

    Donald Fehr is the head of the NHLPA. Bettman Versus Fehr, this has lockout written all over it and Montreal’s going to get that unique sensation of having ben stabbed in the back by Fehr again.

    Nothing like making sure the game is grown and promoted by having two lockouts inside of 10 years.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  219. JD_ says:

    Just saw it. Looks like Fehr’s mandate is on an interim basis, effectively to negotiate the next CBA. Then he’ll be handed a big, fat cheque and be on his merry way.

    Unfortunately, as far as the NHLPA is concerned, it’s an absolute necessity that a competent, hard-a$$ed individual comes on board. Since the departure of Goodenow, the players’ union has had ineffective, bordering on incompetent management and Bettman has exploited this weakness to mold things to the owners’ liking. If I was in the players’ position, Fehr is the kind of guy I’d be looking for.

    As a fan of the game, it’s tough news. If Fehr has a short-term mandate, things could very easily get ugly – i.e., it will be of little concern what kind of rubble he leaves behind, he has a job to do and will do it with an eye on being “successful” – in particular with the NHL now in a position to enforce a hard cap on salaries.

    Enjoy the next two seasons for all they’re worth.

    And hope that common sense prevails.

  220. habs03 says:

    Say what you want about Gomez, this guys is nothing but pure old school, while I hate his cap hit, the guy plays the game the right way.



  221. db says:

    i know the quality isnt always the best but http://atdhe.net is generally very reliable… in english and french

  222. Malreg says:

    Oh man, great memory…  Had my whole family over watching it, it was dead quiet with 1 minute left, my 8 year old brother starts to sing “Na na na goodbye” and the WHOLE room yells at him before the third “na” even escapes his mouth.  Then boom, the Americans tie it…

    We then kicked all of the women out of the room for overtime- not a time to have my 17 year old niece ask me what off-side is…

  223. likehoy says:

    just reading robert L’s piece on the 25 under 25…a scout mentions that palushaj has lead feet…i don’t think that’s true cause he was one of the smoothest skater, if not the smoothest, at the development camp.

    – I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  224. joeybarrie says:

    OK….. I am all set for the season to begin. Just finished installing my brand new 50 inch LED. MAN I cant wait for Cammalleri’s head to be as big as mine when i watch it………. I’m sorry to those who are negative about our season…GOD LOVES ME AND WILL MAKE SURE I SEE AS MANY HABS HOCKEY GAMES AS POSSIBLE THIS SEASON. Which means were going to the FINALS…


    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  225. RJB says:

    Canada just won gold in mens hockey again on TSN2…Hockey season please start!!

  226. OneTimer says:

    Champs, all. Can’t wait to see them in action!

  227. SensFanSpezza says:

    Ya, that’s the problem with most of Robert L’s stuff.  He doesn’t see much himself, so he just compiles a bunch of info from other sources.  He doesn’t know if it’s right or wrong.  He’s OK when he’s talking historical stuff that can’t be argued, but on present day stuff he’s pretty weak.  I saw Palushaj play a bunch last year, and he’s a fine skater.

  228. badbalance says:

    What people fail to see is, how good of a two way player Gomez really is..

  229. andrewberkshire says:

    You mean like every other GM in the league?

  230. D Alcorn says:

    <<  This guy thinks HE’s the Champ.


    ALWAYS Habs –
    D Mex

  231. SensFanSpezza says:

    Oooh.  Sarcasm.  Very good.

  232. cautiousoptimist says:

    Don’t worry, we have nothing to Fehr but Fehr itself.

    1. http://www.flickeringpictures.com – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  233. likehoy says:

    well i wasn’t ragging robert L himself…just the source he took it from, i disagree with him.

    – I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  234. observer says:

    Boring news! No NFL in 2011 and now no NHL the year after. CSNPhilly.com reported, “Fehr garnered a reputation as an uncompromising negotiator during his 26 years in charge of the baseball union. He oversaw five labour contracts for the players and was in charge during a seven-plus month strike in 1994-95 that forced the cancellation of the World Series. The current CBA, which has already been extended, expires on September 15, 2012.”

  235. Propwash says:

    Yeah, to me, Canada came alive during the olympics. It was a great feeling.


    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  236. Mr-T says:

    It is just one peril that you expose as a leverage or use as a threat in the negotiating of any collective bargaining process. It is a deceptive pretense used by either side as a ultimatum on one or more binding issue, that can not be resolved to the point where they are so far apart that any further dialogue at that time would be unproductive.

    At this point they usually send in other team member’s who try to solve the less intricate problems. The last thing either side would want to occur is a lockout and to be the one who was the cause of it in the public’s opinion. Especially since it is well known what happened in conjuction to the previous lockout. They are fully aware of the more severe ramifications and the consequential effects if it was to occur again.

    Fehr is a very tough and resilient negotiator and can not be manhandled by the league. Although it would not be in everyone’s best interest if there was animosity between the two groups. Fehr acts on behave of the players and does not make arbitrary decisions. Despite all the rhetoric in these type of proceedings, I would think that neither side would even want to contemplate another possible lockout. Any upside to a lockout would be incremental but the downside could have a profound affect on the NHL and the fans.




    Support Carey Price          “Hypocrisy is not a virtue”

  237. SeriousFan09 says:

    Excepting Glen Sather of course.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  238. Mr-T says:

    WOW…You almost had me believing it there for a minute.                           


    Support Carey Price        “Hypocrisy is not a virtue”                          

  239. VancouverHab says:

    Hendrik Sedin: 30 years old, ZERO Stanley Cups, ONE-Way player

    Scott Gomez: 31 years old, TWO Stanley Cups, TWO-Way player.

    $1.2 mil for the two Cups? Sounds like a bargain to me.

  240. Duracell3 says:

    No one complains about that, he’s a very good centre, and maybe the smoothest skater through the neutral zone I’ve ever seen, it’s just he isn’t $1.2mil better than Henrik Sedin.

  241. Bugs says:

    Who scored the winner?

    Questionable but unactionable, it’s

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  242. Mark says:

    I did. Backhand shelf. I’m just that awesome.

  243. Bugs says:

    Waitaminnit…do you get a refund on that thing if the season goes to hell?

    Sweet deal! Where is this place? I’m goin, baby.

    Questionable but unactionable, it’s

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  244. observer says:

    Only means bad news for the fans – end of story!

  245. Duracell3 says:

    I saw Wilson as the exact opposite. Of course he loves the Canadiens, all he has is as a result of playing with them, but he was just as critical of the players, and understood how much better other teams were as anyone.

  246. Bugs says:

    I love your sig, mate.

    It’s like saying “I support oxygen as our Number 1 breathable air!”

    What are the alternatives, exactly? I love it.

    Questionable but unactionable, it’s

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  247. Bugs says:


    Hot DOG!

    Questionable but unactionable, it’s

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  248. Bugs says:


    …shoulda kept the first word as “fear’ though…

    But friggin nice anyway.

    Questionable but unactionable, it’s

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  249. Bugs says:

    Sadly agree.

    Questionable but unactionable, it’s

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  250. Bugs says:


    y’s a total clow


    Go bac

    k to your RO

    M drive, goofb


    Questionable but unactionable, it’s

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  251. The Cat says:

    You dont believe that, do you?

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  252. HardHabits says:

    That Robert L. article is only about the top 11 – 25. Where are the top 10?

  253. HFX-HabFan says:

    I’m pretty sure he’s only doing five at a time- each new post will have five more.

  254. DD says:

    My favourite Glen Healy memory; A few years back, when the leafs were looking for a new GM, Healy threw his hat in the ring as a potential candidate. I remember Healy’s cohorts during a broadcast spouting little suck up lines to him, trying to ingratiate themselves on the new skipper good ship lollipop. The funniest part was when Healy started commenting on the current leaf power brokers lack of skill in recognising their top talent. Wade Belak was his main case and point. After Healy was done, you would have thought Belak was the second coming of Gretzky with Cam Neely’s toughness thrown in for good measure. Now, I always thought Belak was a dead ringer for the banjo kid in Deliverance, but super star? I think Healy is still bitter that they didn’t put him at the helm and as for Belak, well I’ve heard that Deliverance Two is in the works. “You got a purty mouth, Wade”

  255. Curtoph says:

    Oxygen is only a percentage of the air you breath, so your analogy sucks! You can breathe any type of gas… :) Seeing as air is made up of almost 80% nitrogen, and only 20% of oxygen.

  256. StevieRay says:

    ” Molson ” World Hockey Summit ??? Whta’s that all about . I did a quick ” google” of the participants .. no one fro the Canadiens let alone the ” Molsons “… I also notice such renowed North Amercian Hockey minds such as ” Glenn Healy ” .. is among the chosen . but no ” Bob Cole” … ????  Also Brian Burke …

    pitiful ….

  257. Ian Cobb says:



    I have mailed
    out all the Summit game tickets today.

    Don,t lose them or misplace
    them or forget them like some people did last year.

    Your seat tickets are not in your name, so if you lose them, trouble!!

    Let me know on the Summit page when you get them please. 

    USA Summit goers, allow 10 to 12 days or so to receive them.






    Nov. 5th, We are watching the Habs vs  Sabers game at Hurley’s Pub
    1225 Crescent St.  on big screen around 6pm. Name tags will be given out.

     SAT. morning, Breakfast will be at Chez Coras 1240 Drummond St. at 8:30am

    at 10;30 Bell Center tour and Habs Hall of Fame tour. The “Rockets”
    granddaughter Cathrine Richard is putting on the tour for us this year.


    at 2:45 Pregame meal and The Children’s Foundation Raffle at The Baton
    Rouge Rest. 1050 Mountain St.

    Don’t forget to bring along something to
    contribute to the raffle please.


    Across the street at 7pm our Habs take on Kovalev and the Ottawa Senator’s


    game celebration. We have the second floor of Hurley’s Pub reserved for
    us. And like every year our Gazette leaders will be there to celibrate with us.

    A password will be given to you at the pregame meal to by pass any
    line up and entry to our HIO celebration room.

     SUNDAY farewell breakfast to be announced.

     See you all in Montreal,!! And don’t forget to list your events on the Summit page that you are attending.


  258. Ian Cobb says:

    I was wondering about that, thanks.

  259. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Ok now stand next too that beauty tv and tell me if your taller than Cammi……..

  260. Dr-Watson says:

    Other renowned hockey “minds” invited to speak are Tony, Adam, Volcano62, Nunacanadien and Xtrahabsfan.

  261. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Why can’t Price come out and say something like this Ryan statement.

  262. RGM says:

    While the leadership & presence of Gomez is valuable, I tend to think of such intangibles as being unmeasureable by money. Goals, assists, and an Art Ross Trophy – those equal dollars to me. The Gomez deal is not a good one, that’s pretty much a universally accepted premise, and I think we’ve all said or nodded our heads a few times at the idea that if the deal was only for $4M-$4.5M nobody would hold Gomez to such lofty expectations.

    —————————————– Josh Gorges for Captain!

  263. Danno says:

    Carey Price still not signed.

    In other news, this shocking revelation.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  264. JIMVINNY says:

    That’s ridiculous.  Why should he have to make a statement to tell us something his agent already has?  Let the kid enjoy his summer.

  265. Jordio-oh says:

    Why should he? To put the minds at ease of people who have nothing better to do than worry about if or when Price will sign?

    Besides, there has been trade speculation surrounding Bobby Ryan and not Carey Price. Quit trying to compare different situations just for the sake of stirring the Price pot.

  266. HabFab says:

    “Questionable but unactionable, it’s”


    Not sure about that one Bugsy, and you so articulate!!

  267. gmd says:

    Because no matter what he said people would jump all over him.  I’ve never seen such a hate on for a player as what I read on here.

  268. volcano62 says:

    Let the kid enjoy his summer? Whatever…..

    Go Habs Go!

  269. Dr-Watson says:

    Well you still have to look up to Cammalleri being that you are 8″ shorter then him.

  270. adam76 says:

    Agree – god knows he deserves a break form all that hard work and success last season.

  271. JIMVINNY says:

    Just shut the f*ck up if you’re going to be an idiot.  Your whining is unbelievably childish and annoying.

  272. RiverviewCanadien says:

    If you read on here, people are always bringing up the comparison of Price with all the other unsigned RFAs. I was just pointing out that Ryan actually said something. And I am not stirring the pot, I am entitled to make a comment, just like you, n’est pas?

    I was just asking why he has been so silent about the situation. He is, of course, the “Franchise”. There is a lot riding on this kid for the Canadiens.

    To put the minds at ease of people who have nothing better to do than worry about if or when Price will sign?

    IF Price does not sign, the team is in trouble. What is the contingency plan? Do you know?

  273. adam76 says:

    Whining about whining – interesting.

    Don’t like my posts, don’t read them.

  274. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I agree, there is an awful lot of unfounded hate for the kid, but I do not hate him nor do I encourage the bashing of any player, well maybe Pronger 😉

  275. RiverviewCanadien says:

    calling someone an idiot and childish while telling them to shut the f*ck up. Nice….

  276. derfab says:

    Bieber. Just when my faith in humanity begins to reaffirm itself, another teen twit is put forward as something to celebrate.  If he were my kid I’d yank him off the stage and send him back to school.

    character is derfab destiny.

  277. nunacanadien says:

    We it seems are being told to wait a year for Ramo.  So unless Price shines, this year is toast.

  278. Storm Man says:

    I think you would just spend his money.

  279. Psycho29 says:

    Hopefully they all took the same flight

  280. Storm Man says:

    I think you still talking about Price after you posted that you would give it a rest is more interesting. Guess you lied.

  281. volcano62 says:

    Is that you Price? You mad Price?



    Go Habs Go!

  282. volcano62 says:

    LOLLLLL Go Habs Go!

  283. derfab says:

    Price for Ryan straight up, anyday. Though Anaheim would be stupid to take it. Not counting the highly talented keepers in Europe, there are still 6 or 7 decent nhl goalies now available and there probably always will be.


    character is derfab destiny.

  284. Storm Man says:

    We can only wish.

  285. Jordio-oh says:

    You’re definitely entitled to your own opinion.

    And you are correct about people mentioning Ryan still being an RFA, just like Carey. But I still maintain the reason Ryan came out and spoke is because of the trade speculation, and not just because he’s an RFA. Gagner and Cogliano also haven’t signed, but that doesn’t mean they need to go to TSN and tell them they want to remain Oilers, and Carey doesn’t have to do that with the habs.

    And he will sign. The deal will get done. The professionals who run this blog and who know more about how things work on the inside than we do have already predicted it will happen.

    And if for whatever reason he doesn’t sign (which i hate even lending weight to) I’ll be more concerned about that than being wrong on here.

  286. habstrinifan says:

    I bet if you were a Duck’s fan you would feel a little more optimistic to hear Ryan’s statement. He did not give any cliche answer. He stated that he really wanted to stay in Anaheim and that he hopes everything is going to work out.

    All Price has said, that I know of, “well I am an RFA”.

    He has given s no indication that he acknowledges his status now in Mtl and is looking forward to the challenge.



  287. StephS says:

    Ill give it a shot – thanks.

  288. Mr-T says:

    As you very well deserve from the keen insight and intellectual prowess that you have so eloquently bestowed to this forum.



    Support Carey Price         “Hypocrisy is not a virtue”

  289. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I think mostly everyone would agree with that, heck I would even throw in a Pouliot or a Kostitsyn…and you are right, there seems to still be some talented goalies available.

  290. Chorske says:

    I really don’t see what one has to do with the other. Completely different scenarios.

    Also, Price’s agent hinted that Price wanted term… which is the same thing as saying he wants to be a Canadien. Right?

  291. Chorske says:

    You’re right except for the enjoying his summer part. I’m hoping he’s spending a lot of time thinking back on how he lost his job, and planning concrete ways to keep it this time round.

  292. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Jennifer or Chantal?

  293. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I highlighted below that some posters have been throwing out the comparisons of all the remaining top-talent RFAs. I agree they are completely different scenarios which further cements my point that people should NOT be comparing the two, Ryan has come out and made a statement, whereas Price has not.

    I thought what his agent hinted at was Price wanted a 1 or 2 year deal (which contradicts your last statement), where the organization wanted him for term (upwards of 5 years).

  294. mike g says:

    Name your decade team…

    So yest I was bored as heck, and wound up finding an article that someone wrote on his choices of the NHL’s all-decade team. He chose 1 C, 1 RW, 1 LW, 2 D, and 1 G. The time period was from the year 2000-2010, of course. Since I wasn’t too crazy with his selections, I’ll make my own and so will you guys since there’s nothing else to do.

    Mike G’s all-decade team:

    LW- Alex Ovechkin

    C- Joe Sackic

    RW- Jarome Iginla

    D- Nik Lidstrom

    D- Scott Neidermayer

    G- Marty Brodeur

    There are some tough choices there, but these were overall the most productive at their position imo. Guys like Jagr at RW, Crosby at C, and Kovalchuk at LW could have been included, but I’d put them on the 2nd team because of certain stats. Iggy’s been one of the most consistent scorers and took his team to the Cup finals, which is why I took him over Jagr who’s best days were in the 90’s. I took Sakic over Crosby because he played 9 years instead of 5 and was always clutch. And finally I chose Ovi over Kovalchuk because Alex has been the most entertaining player of the decade, and has turned the Caps into contenders for the past few years, something Kovalchuk wasn’t able to do in ATL.

    So, what is your all-decade team?



    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  295. derfab says:

    Wishful thinking on my part. I have nothing against any player personally. I don’t know any. I just think that picking and building around Price, as a player, is a mistake and that if we can get a decent return for him we should jump. He may very well turn out to be a great goaler, but there are 9th round picks and guys out of nowhere that also can do the job. Hell, at this point, Theodore is every bit as valuable.

    character is derfab destiny.

  296. Tag says:

    Hello all, new poster here. Looking forward to participating to the discussion!

    While I agree that Price shouldn’t HAVE to make any sort of statement, the reality is he likely should have in my opinion. Why? Precisely because there’s alot of hate directed his way. Whether that hate is “justified” or not is kind of irrelevant in my opinion. The fact is, there is a huge contigent of Habs fans that do not like him, for reasons we all know. If I’m Price’s agent, I know this and I advise him to come out and say the right things to the fanbase. The fans need to see Price saying these things not his agent.

    He has everything to gain by doing so and nothing to lose, assuming he wants to remain a Hab longterm.

    Even if he doesn’t want to remain a Hab, he has no choice in the short term anyway so why not make his stay as pleasant as possible in the interim?


  297. Storm Man says:

    Mike take a look at your email. I like your team but have to Have Crosby at centre.

  298. mike g says:

    I just checked them..

    When will you post the pool on HIO?


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  299. habstrinifan says:

    Welcome aboard! Sound PR advice.

  300. Storm Man says:

    Friday. It gives time for the others to get spots in the league that missed out last time. You can posted it also on here  Friday if you want.

  301. ZepFan2 says:

    I’d much prefer he put the past behind him and concentrate on his future.


    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  302. observer says:

    Pouliot and Darche for Ryan. Rumors are Gauthier refused to part with his big June signings.

  303. derfab says:

    Solid picks. Best 2 D in the last 15 years. But just to make trouble I’ll take Nash over Ovie and (because Joe started to fade in 2004) Vinny at centre!

    character is derfab destiny.

  304. Storm Man says:

    Who was this number 14 player that we signed? That was BIG.

  305. observer says:

    Tag —  Hello all, new poster here — H.L. Mencken said, “whenever they call themselves a “new poster” they are NEVER a “new poster.”

  306. punkster says:



  307. mike g says:

    Vinny over Joe???!!!!!

    Speaking of fading, where has Vinny been in the past 2 years?! lol…At least Sakic didn’t rack up points in the past 2 years cuz he wasn’t playing, but Vinny’s playing and doing diddly squat.

    Anyways, personal choice I guess. But I’d take Sacik, Thornton, and Crosby over Vinny for the decade. Alot of people don’t realize how many point Thornton has accumulated over the past 10 years.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  308. sprague cleghorn says:

    Welcome.  Keep you head up.

  309. habaddict_andy says:

    For a second I thought I posted something without realizing it.  Are we gonna share the avatar?  Can’t blame you liking the jersey.

  310. mrhabby says:

    so we have Auld playing 60 games. who backs him up????

  311. habaddict_andy says:

    By the way, it seems you have an account for the past 6 WEEKS.

  312. Tag says:

    H.L. Mencken also said:

    “I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense.”

  313. Tag says:

    Hi Andy,


    Yes, I’ve had an account for a while, I’m a long time reader, but have never participated in the discussion before.



  314. Tag says:

    I actually had some trouble changing the avatar – my apologies for using the same one as you, I can find another Markov avatar.


    More Markov is never a bad thing.


    EDIT: Avatar changed.

  315. fuhgawz says:

    LW — Kovalev    C — Crosby   RW — Kovalchuk

    D — Pronger      D — Lidstrom    G — Brodeur         


    Kovy with Sid would mean 100’s of goals for Kovalchuk

    Pronger i hate the man but he is/was one of the best shut down guys ever Lidstrom no brainer

    Brodeur record speaks for itself — but if this was from the 90’s onward it would have been ROY


  316. punkster says:

    I can think of many reasons. For example, why should he make any attempt to placate the nattering nannies on HI/O or the hand-wringing crowd in some media outlets? Are these people important hockey people to be catered to or are they simply worry warts with nothing better to do than stir up non-existent controversy to hear themselves talk, garner blog hits or sell papers? Perspective: you’re negotiating or working on a promotion or new salary offer at work and the people you disuss this with are who? It’s his frackin’ life, his frackin’ contract.

    Hey, while we’re at it let’s drag Halak into this discussion. My theory is the reason he hasn’t made any announcements yet is because he’s still ticked that Jaro walks and gets $3.75M but he stays and gets less. It’s Jaro’s fault!


  317. Bugs says:

    Articulation doesn’t imply reason, mate.

    Questionable but unactionable, it’s

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  318. VancouverHab says:

    May be, may be not. But Hendrik Sedin is less worthy is my point here.

  319. Mark C says:

    Started to fade in 2004? He had a 87 and a 100 point seasons after 2004. But then again you have Nash over Ovie.

  320. cautiousoptimist says:

    Hard to argue with any of those, but I’ll take a stab at it.  Assuming we’re talking about guys when they were at their peaks within the last 10 years, I might pick:

    LW: Ovechkin

    C: Malkin (only because it’s a more interesting choice than Crosby)

    RW: Iginla (but only because he’s more physical than Selanne)

    D: Pronger (we may hate his guts, but he’s bloody fantastic)

    D: Chara (ditto)

    G: Hasek (.922 career save percentage — the best since they started keeping track)

    1. http://www.flickeringpictures.com – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  321. Bugs says:

    I know; I looked it up…but I admit, with minimal effort seeing the time. Went with a gas we all know and love. Cut corners.

    Analogy…mistep, not failed…

    Aw hell, you got the point anyway! 

    Questionable but unactionable, it’s

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  322. cautiousoptimist says:

    If we had Halak I’d agree, and I’d toss in someone like Weber to get the deal done, but then we’d end up with Auld backing up either Theodore, Sanford, Toskala or Emery.  Yuck.

    1. http://www.flickeringpictures.com – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  323. HardHabits says:

    Difference is he’s on his 1st account. Have many of yours have been banned?

  324. HardHabits says:

    Source? Clue: It’s very stinky and makes trumpet sounds.

  325. avatar_58 says:

    I’ve never seen someone hate on their own team’s players. Most fans I meet will praise even the crappiest player because he wears their crest. How come some hab fans fail to do the same?

    Don’t give me this “higher standards” nonsense – if he wears the CH then he gets cheered. It’s a team, not an individual. It’s ok to say “so and so isn’t doing so good” but the downright hatred for Price is mind boggling.

    I mean I didn’t like aebischer but I sure as hell cheered when he made a save and won games.

  326. nunacanadien says:

    At least Sedin crashes the net, Gomez rarely does, and its probably related to size and speed, one is younger than the other perhaps, or just skating style and how they carry the puck in probably has a lot to do with it.

  327. saskhabfan says:

    Sorry,you have mistaken hockey summit for a closed door dutch rudder convention. Other special guests include retromikey,clay and manashart.

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  328. saskhabfan says:

    Cammy’s an nhl star and your just some loser whining loser.


    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  329. adam76 says:

    What a piece of work is a man, how noble in reason, how
    infinite in faculties, in form and moving how express and
    admirable, in action how like an angel, in apprehension how like
    a god! the beauty of the world, the paragon of animals—and yet,
    to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me—
    nor woman neither, though by your smiling you seem to say so.

  330. Mr-T says:


  331. Mr-T says:




    Support Carey Price         “Hypocrisy is not a virtue”         

  332. LA Loyalist says:

    this is the dumbest question in the world, but just in case… would our docs be checking Price’s eye sight regularly? 

    I was a goalie a million years ago and no way could I see long shots now like I could in my 20’s.

    I know it sounds dumb but Price’s flaws are so inexplicable I was just wondering if there were a physical explanation beyond the apparent concentration problems.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  333. Say Ash says:

    I’m no doctor but I believe he suffers from occasional cerebral flatulence.

  334. ZepFan2 says:

    What are his flaws? I’d like to know.


    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  335. Say Ash says:

    Not much, except for listening a little too much to Rollie Melanson, who should screw up Luongo next.

  336. LA Loyalist says:

    long soft floaters, for one – that’s an inability to track visually against a variable background

    pretty obvious gaps in concentration

    inability to kick it up a gear when a game is on the line.

    the guy has talent, but he has software issues that hopefully maturity will fix. I was just wondering if there were something physical that was so simple that it was overlooked.

    Gilles Villeneuve used to do exercises to improve his peripheral vision, just for an example. Maybe he’s been over-coached and is thinking too much and just needs to freaking relax and enjoy playing the game.

    I don’t know, it’s just damn frustrating watching the guy. Hopefully this will be the year.

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  337. ZepFan2 says:

    Oh I know. I was hoping he’d mention the weak glove hand.


    Oops, wrong one. 😉


    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  338. ZepFan2 says:

    Long floaters?

    Like this…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07lKf2LLgCI


    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  339. LA Loyalist says:

    well, I know you’re being facetious but ‘weak glove hand’ could be several things or a combination thereof in no particular order:

    a) reflexes

    b) hand-eye coordination

    c) visual tracking

    d) concentration

    I don’t think someone with a genuine weak glove hand gets to the NHL, so back to my original point. What about his goalie coach? I haven’t really followed that.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  340. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Why is it you people have to always drag Halak into this Price talk? Can’t you just come up with something in defense of Price all by himself instead of dragging out the short comings of another player (which EVERY player in the NHL goes through at some point).

    I am so sick of the yahoos that just can’t come up with something other than a comparison to something Halak did. Obviously Price is not that good in your eyes if you cannot defend him in any other fashion.

    Why not find a clip where Price HAS tracked the puck VERY well?

    Like this save Beauty Save, now that is called reflexes and tracking the puck.

  341. SLONCOLD says:

    dude u so hate halak lol

  342. ZepFan2 says:

    Actually, I don’t and never have.

    But to act like Price is the first goalie to let in a floater or a bad goal… puhleeeese.

    I could find a Roy one that’s probably worse than either Halak or Price.


    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  343. ZepFan2 says:

    (which EVERY player in the NHL goes through at some point)…

    That was my point.

    Halak seems to be the goalie du jour around here. Hence the dragging in.


    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  344. ZepFan2 says:

    I agree, the goalie coach is the best place to start.

    Now to be fair…http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/202030/Price_Zones_medium.jpg


    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  345. Mr-T says:

    Price has recently been seen by an opthamologist and optometrist. He has been prescribed the same identical pair of glasses that Bubble’s from the Trailer Park Boys wears and here you thought the “question” was dumb.

  346. LA Loyalist says:

    I’m going to the Ducks/Kings final pre-season game 9/28 I’ll shoot you guys a report (and how Koivu and Selanne look, of course).


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  347. RGM says:

    Regionally, yes. We’ll see how well this translates for all of us on Saturday nights. Will they get the national exposure while the Leafs get relegated to the GTA and parts of Ontario, or will it be Quebec-only for Montreal?

    Josh Gorges for Captain!

  348. Clay4bc says:

    Remember that CBC sports fired their top guy this summer…looks like the new boss in more in touch with reality…


    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

    — George Orwell —

  349. Storm Man says:

    Yes, I just want the ones that missed out the last time to have spots and after any who joined the first one can join also.

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