Update: Bell four-pointer for Habs, Senators

Former Canadien Alex Kovalev hopes to snap a nine-game point-less slump Monday against the Canadiens, who are home to an Ottawa Senators team that’s lost five straight.
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Habs reinforcements in sight: Hickey
Senators’ Kovalev upbeat despite slump: Stubbs

AUDIO: Senators coach Cory Clouston | Alex Kovalev | Daniel Alfredsson

The Ottawa Senators, losers of five straight heading into tonight’s huge game against the Canadiens, held an optional practice Sunday morning at the Bell Centre, and 16 players skated for an hour.

Coach Cory Clouston maintains his team is doing a lot of things right, and it was an upbeat dressing room after practice; no moping despite the team’s current skid. Nick Foligno and former Canadien Alex Kovalev were the last off the ice, having been out for a full 90 minutes until they were asked to leave, hundreds of Casino de Montréal employees and their familiies waiting to enjoy an afternoon of skating on the Habs’ rink.

Senators not skating Sunday: captain Daniel Alfredsson, Jason Spezza, Chris Phillips, Andy Sutton, Milan Michalek, Chris Campoli, Filip Kuba and Erik Karlsson.

The Canadiens had Sunday off. They’ll skate this late this morning in Brossard, while the Senators will skate once more at the Bell Centre.


  1. ooder says:

    i just hope atlanta beats philly tonight…

    this will make it much easier on our habs. 


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  2. showey47 says:

    i think he meant ak not kovy.

  3. naweed235 says:

    what do u mean hopefully? …as far as im concerned i hope he doesnt score anymore till the end of the year…specially not in MTL

  4. hab_skill says:

    Price tomorrow night? Halak’s tired.

  5. ooder says:

    interfernce yes, but nothing more then that.

    it was a hockey play in the sense that it wasn’t anything like what ovechki or cooke pulled recently


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  6. Bob_Sacamano says:

    I just don´t understand why people keep replying to this wum…?

  7. habs_agardiner says:

    Thx Mr. Stubbs

  8. showey47 says:

    I wouldn’t quite call it a hockey play,cammy was skating to the puck and volchenkov t-boned him before he got there. Cammy never played the puck,i doubt it was intent to injure perhaps not even a cheap shot but interference would have been a reasonable call. The injury was fluke,

  9. Dave Stubbs says:

    11 am Brossard, open to the public.

    Dave Stubbs
    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette
    • On Twitter: twitter.com/habsinsideout1

  10. habs_agardiner says:


  11. habs_agardiner says:

    for tomorrows practice is it open to the public. Anyone?

  12. Bugs says:

    Not all of us.

    Sure, some of us would like Tendre Guidoune to suck just so we coulda WON the deal, not content with the TIE one.

    And some of us don’t give a rat’s butt what other teams do as long as OURS finds ways to get better.

    Like it did with the Gui-Poulio deal.

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  13. ooder says:

    no one, it was a hockey play… no intent to injure and it wasn’t a cheap shot either


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  14. Bugs says:

    I’ll go further. Last night’s game was his worst with us. And he still picked up a point.

    I will only start giving credibility to complaints against my boy once he goes TWO games without picking up a point.

    And that’s all I have to say, officer.

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  15. habs001 says:

    chances are another one goal /overtime game vs senators…same wed in buffalo and probably most games rest of the season unless we start scoring on the pp… i am pretty confident our main offensive players will produce as they have all year but the key will be ak46 and to a lesser extent sk74 if they could somehow start producing we would be in good shape…most fans are hoping ak46 and sk74 can become major contributors with the habs but if their stats are the same next year at this time as now we may have to look at trading them.

  16. HardHabits says:


  17. HardHabits says:

    If facts were part of Timo’s rants they wouldn’t be worthy of Timoism.

  18. Bugs says:

    Because from a young age, they saw that you had “golf” written all over you. And you don’t want that goin into hockey. They did what was best for you because they loved you. And I’m sure they still do.

    So what happened?

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  19. HardHabits says:

    To be fair Pouliot’s last few games haven’t been memorable. He’s making a lot of weak plays and doesn’t have the same drive he showed a while back. His produciton has been lacking and he seems a little out of place with Gio and Gomez as of late.

  20. t1tan5 says:

    The Habs who are 7-2-1 in their last 10? The Habs who have gotten 13 out of the last 14 possible points? One game and we suddenly suck again according to you. For anything to be statistically relevant, you need more than just one performance to draw your conclusions on.

  21. HardHabits says:

    I like Pouliot. It would’ve been sweeter had TG not produced but he is producing so his production is not a dead-horse issue. Claiming it is, is more of a white-wash. A proverbial “everybody move along nothing to see over here” pull the wool over the eyes feint. Why isn’t Sergei given any PP time for example? Something tells me he goes to another team and starts popping them in all over the place. But of course nothing to see over here because my boy Poulio is the new drug that replaces the Kovy-habit. It’s a valid moan and groan cuz that’s what we Habs fans do.

  22. Mark C says:

    Having the day off might have something to do with 4 games in 6 days this week. But, lets not let facts get in the way of your mini rants.

  23. Bugs says:

    Invisible. Totally agree.

    He does what he wants out there and no one can stop him. Pickin up pts while everyone’s back is turned.

    Including your own apparently.

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  24. Bugs says:

    Watching our games probably beats watching video of their own.

    “Oh, is that what goaltending looks like? Cool. Oh, and look, a system. Wow, how’s that work? Why don’t we have one of those? Boy, these guys are good! We should play like these guys.”

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  25. Mark C says:

    That is not true. The point a game player adds much more value to the team. Even in only 50 games, his additional .27 PPG will have much greater win/loss impact than the 60 point in 82 games player.

    The replacement player for the point a game player would only need 10 points in 32 games to total the 60 points of 82 games player, e.g. Darche has 9 points in 22 games.    

  26. Bugs says:

    May I see a link where he admits to bein a b*tch, please?


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  27. Da Hema says:

    I see no evidence Latendresse “wasn’t given a chance.” Carbonneau had him on the second line and on power plays! I side with SeriousFan that Gui’s unwillingness (or inability) to commit to the team was the source of the problem. Gui was not exactly a Rhodes scholar. Didn’t Pearn, during a practice, grab Gui by the ear and drag him to the net to show him where he needed to go? I think Gui is a bit of a dumb-dumb, and so we can thank God hockey will pay his bills for the rest of his life rather than Canadian taxpayers.


    “There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge….”

    –Hunter S. Thompson

  28. Bugs says:

    Woops. Shoulda read further. Sorry, Showey.

    Yeah! What Showey said!

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  29. Bugs says:

    Wait til AK gets one. Then we’ll see the difference between him and Gui.

    In his worse moments, Poulio still gets a point.

    If that’s his worse game with us, I guess I’ll take it.

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  30. usversusthem says:

    I noticed Martin was juggling him around the lines a bit last night, so I guess he’s not doing the little things in the coach’s opinion. I can’t say I’ve noticed him as much lately as I did in the early going of his tenure on the GG line. But he’s still put up 8 points in the 9 games since the Olympics, which is not too shabby for someone who needs a kick in the ass. 

  31. Bugs says:

    Bottom line is right. Didn’t work here; it’s workin over there.

    And so far, it’s almost an exact ppg for the both of’em. So what’s the problem? Let’s move on.

    Y’all know how much I loved sayin Tendre Guidoune but I can’t no more. Know why? Cuz I’ve moved on.

    Let’s move on. This horse is so dead. I mean, it’s deader’n’dead. Every time it gets hit, its rotting carcass releases more putrefied gas from its pus-ridden decomposing bowels that stings the nostrils in a manner quite unpleasant. Suggest we stop beatin on it.

    Talent for talent, production for production, my boy Poulio serves the interests of the Montreal Canadien better than Tendre Guidoune did. Ergo: deal made us better. Stamp of approval. Unanimously approved. Passed through the House. Instituted.

    So let’s move on.

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  32. SeriousFan09 says:

    He was the definition of a lazy player in Montreal, name me a 10-game stretch in his career in Montreal where he played well for that entire time? It doesn’t exist. He moaned about how he didn’t get fair treatment after he was traded when in fact he could’ve just shut his mouth and not taken the opportunity to trash the organization that drafted him and gave him his shot at the NHL, he had no respect and whined about how he didn’t get fair treatment, but at the same time said he was phoning his season in because he didn’t think he had a future with Montreal. So he admits he was lazy because he didn’t think he had a real chance of staying in Montreal and at the same time whines how he didn’t get fair treatment while he admits he wasn’t really trying.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  33. SeriousFan09 says:

    Wow, I love the patience in this town, Pouliot isn’t great for a few games and suddenly we were robbed on the Gui trade. If Gui goes back to his old habits next year, are you going to brag we won the trade?

    Gui had plenty of chances, last year when he started off with Saku and Tanguay? Produced **** all the whole time he was with them and there were other times he was with top lines and did nothing. About the only time he reliably produced last year was with TTB/Lapierre for a stretch. He looked great in training camp to start, but then the regular season started up and he was floating like a weather balloon and about as useful as one. Yes he never finished games out with a top line but he looked as bad as Maxwell did if he got shifted with those lines. He didn’t move his feet, his hits amounted to nothing when he should have been hitting, he lost 90% of his board battles and shot very accurately in to every goalie’s chest protector.

    AK gets more patience because he’s a superior talent, hands, speed, strength are all above Gui. He’s produced with top lines, Gui could not. Cammy/AK/Pleks were an elite line together, as was Lang/Kostitsyns last year and Pleks/Kovalev the year before. When has Gui ever put up points while playing with the big players?


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  34. showey47 says:

    but the tortoise only has 36 points

  35. Bugs says:


    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  36. HardHabits says:

    The tortoise wins the race against the hare, the point being a healthy 60 point in 82 games player is better than a 50 points in 50 games player who missed 32 due to injury.

  37. HardHabits says:

    I disagree with your assessment of Lats. Lats only said stuff after he was traded, so what. He wasn’t a cry-baby nor lazy. I think some of the blame has to be put on the coaching staff here for not seeing and using his potential. Lats’ scoring with Minny and that’s the bottom line. Pouliot hasn’t scored as of late and his play is off the past few games. It’s a fair comparison to make.

  38. showey47 says:

    don’t forget about gio,missed 21 games and still has 23 goals.

  39. showey47 says:

    if 22 points in 29 games as a hab is his bad habits i will take them.

  40. SeriousFan09 says:

    No AK and Cammy injuries? AK’d be chasing 30 and Cammy’d be closing at 40 by this time.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  41. G-Man says:

    He was right. We’re forever waiting for AK to get going and Gui wasn’t given a chance. The trade was good for both clubs, but where’s Pouliot lately? Back to his old habits, that’s where.

  42. showey47 says:

    easy to catch up to cammy when he has missed the last 18 games.

  43. SeriousFan09 says:

    He was a lazy, unmotivated crybaby. Moaned to no end about how he didn’t get fair treatment in Montreal, floated through just about every game he played with Montreal this year and 70% of them in all his previous seasons. Never wanted to work hard in Montreal, we got rid of him becuase of it, simple as that. He was a soft player in Montreal and refused to work hard ever.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  44. showey47 says:

    He hasn’t gone more then 2 games without getting a point since he’s been here,he has only gone 2 games without getting a point twice and the first time was his first 2 games as a hab. If he isn’t scoring goals he is still getting assists which means someone else is scoring goals on his line. Benny has 22 points in 29 games as a hab,how is that falling off big time? That line isn’t the problem,we need cammy back to get the pleky line going.

  45. ooder says:

    dear God, 2012 can’t come fast enough.

    that’s ridiculous lol


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  46. usversusthem says:

    Forget Benny, at this rate Lats is gonna finish the season with more goals than Cammy. Hands up everyone who saw that one coming in mid-November. 

  47. hablifting says:

    Can I rent some time on your crystal ball?  This way I’ll know when the habs win their next cup so I can stop wasting my time.

    Thanks in advance.

  48. SeriousFan09 says:

    Gui’s soft between the ears, he can score as much as he likes in Minnesota, that team’s going nowhere and if they ever make the playoffs, he’ll be invisible.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  49. hablifting says:

    The only problem is that Benny has fallen off big time lately.  He looks lost out there.  Someone needs to kick him in the ass.

  50. zozotheclown says:

    Even if he falls behind in the point pace, Pouliot’s arrival revitalized the Gomez line and got them playing the way we needed them to. The contribution of bringing that line back to life is way more important then individual points he might get, because Lats would probably not have gotten that line going, and we need 2 solid scoring lines to play with the top teams in the conference.

  51. ooder says:

    seriously, 26 goals for lats already…

    benny has a lot of pressure on his shoulders lol


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  52. hablifting says:

    Lats scores again 2-1 Minny.  Probably safe to say it’s not a fluke at this point.

    Please Benoit, don’t make the Habs look stupid yet again… :(

  53. WindsorHab-10 says:

    I hope the Habs are more upbeat and show interest in tomorrow’s game. They sure didn’t last night(except Gio,Gomer & Halak).

  54. EastCoastJoe says:

    And of course his dad, Troy was drafted by the Habs in ’84.

    “Maybe I’ll play the piano.” – Bob Gainey

  55. Bugs says:

    GA, GPG, PP, PK, SF, SA, all areas affected by coaching systematically improved.

    All the Jack Marty haters? In your FACE!

    Oh yes! All up in your face.

    Thank you.

    That is all.

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  56. Bugs says:

    Watching the American leafs lose was never as much fun as it is now cuz we get to hear the Tortinator go off afterwards.

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  57. Ian Cobb says:

    March 21st—Weekly stats where we place in the
    30 team league.



    Goals Against–198, We are in 14th
    place. Last week we were in 16th place.

    Total Points—–79, We
    are tied with Ottawa in 15th place, Last week we were in 16th place.

    For——-196, We are in 15th place. Last week we were in 10th place.


    production seems to be our weak link lately. Compared to the 30 teams,
    we are right in the middle of them. When Camilarie and MAB get back we
    should boost by a goal a game.

  58. SeriousFan09 says:

    There are still aren’t any free points and the team should compete better against the lower teams. I agree the rivalry for our side seems to have watered down as far as the team is concerned, but they should approach the bottom 3rd of the league like they’re a bunch of hacks that are easily knocked over. the team would own the division already if they had not taken so many low teams for granted this year.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  59. ooder says:

    I agree that it is annoying. But the thing is, the habs haven’t seen the leafs in the playoffs for so long now.

    this rivalry is practically non existant because no one on the habs side really cares about it.

    While the habs have moved on by trying to be succesful in the playoffs, the leafs are still mired in thier “rebuilding” phase and have nothing else to look forward to.


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  60. SeriousFan09 says:

    The complaint is we’ve seen them play with more heart and will against Anaheim and LA, sunbelt squads than we have seen them play against the team they’ve had a rivalry with since the two clubs first competed. Leafs and Habs should be knock down drag out fights with both teams killing themselves to win. Leafs do, Habs don’t and it’s becoming a very annoying pattern, especially considering the Leafs haven’t even see the playoffs since the lockout and are generally a crap team. We should be above .500 with these jokers and it’s becoming irritating.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  61. ooder says:

    btw for those fans that accuse of our team of being “heartless” and not caring about the game…

    please go watch the rangers play…

    a team that has been pretty much healthy all season long, fighting for a playoff spot and put in one of the worst performances i have ever seen


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  62. ooder says:

    and Prospal’s spray on tan


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  63. CaliforniaHabsFan says:

    Huge win for Boston

  64. twilighthours says:

    Really bad reaction by Rask on NYR first goal.  What a poor teammate!

  65. Psycho29 says:

    The Rangers look like all they care about is their big paycheques at the end of the day…

  66. Cookies says:

    Simply because it is more likely to land Gagner than Crosby.

    Who in Montreal wouldn’t think of having Crosby on the team? Or Iginla, Datsyuk, Ovechkin, Malkin, Toews, Doughty, Cammalleri, Markov…??

    Oh wait, we have the last 2 mentioned. Superstar caliber players are great to admire and try to attain.

    Gagner on the other hand, can probably be a surprise pick-up a la… wait for it… (your boy) Pouliot!

  67. Nick_Habs1 says:

    He was a Habs fan growing up….so ya it does make sense.

  68. Born in a Bad Year says:

    Anybody else watching on NBC noticing that in the Crosby Reebok ads with him shooting pucks into a dryer, there is a lot more Habs stuff around than Penguins stuff?


    Subtext anyone? 

  69. mrhabby says:

    cbc…really going all out with the marlies sad , really sad.

  70. Bugs says:

    I hope this huge game for Ottawa serves as a perfect tableau for the huge humiliation they’re about to endure as we whup their butts what good and take those Ontario bastiches for 3 outta 4 pts in 48 hrs.

    …huge game for Ottawer…who they puttin in net, goofy or pluto? do us a favour, why dontcheh.


    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  71. ooder says:

    let’s hope our habs finally beat the senators tomorrow.

    I don’t want to see their losing streak end at the expense of our habs.

    Also, the Rangers have got to be one of the most pathetic teams “fighting” for a playoff spot.


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  72. Bugs says:

    Why not think of Crosby instead?

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  73. Psycho29 says:

    Since when does CBC, our National broadcaster show Toronto Marlies’ games coast to coast?????? They are showing them live this afternoon….

    I just tuned in to see Healy, Hrudey and Freidman interviewing Johnny Bower. Freidman told Bower that hockey fans need to see color pictures of a leaf with the Stanley Cup, not black and white photos like 1967….

  74. Cookies says:

    Anyone ever thought of probably having Sam Gagner as a Canadien??

  75. Bryan says:

    Looks like Cammi will be back for Monday.  Woop!


    The Habs are making me Bi-Polar.

  76. nickster13 says:

    I hope we stomp the sens, the Trashers are catching up and i would like to be ahead of the sens going into the playoffs

  77. Mothstoflame says:

    A little off topic,  But Josh gorges is so good at what he does.  Does anyone else feel he is getting more under appreciated playing on a line with Gill.   I mean,  you would need 2 players to cover gills ass.   And i feel really bad for gorges.  He has been solid and his +/- has showed for seasons.  glad to see its climbing again.  Please send spacek and gill as a package.  Will take anything.  thanks

  78. showey47 says:

    I like gorges but its tough to watch him on our PP,as for gill he has been huge for our PK. I would rather dump spacek then gill.

  79. SeriousFan09 says:

    Let’s hope the real team shows up against the Sens on Monday, if the Laffs can beat them badly I don’t see why we can’t. Hopefully Cammy is back in action, need our premiere goal scorer back in the mix and especially to re-energize Pleks and AK.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  80. wotever says:

    Geez, you’d think the Casino employees and families would be thrilled to have Kovalev and Foligno on the ice with them. 😉

  81. BKAK72 says:

    I find the only thing HABS fans have in common with all fans in CANADA is the distaste for the Ottawa Senators.  Geez even the home fans “boo” the SENS when the HABS or LEAFS are in town.  I’m getting ready for a full blitz attack on that SENS team!

    — I will not apologize for being a delirious HABS fan! —

  82. Bugs says:

    Hate the Sens?

    What did they ever do to us?

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  83. Nick_Habs1 says:

    Will Cammy, MAB and Price playing Monday night? Does anyone know??

  84. Cookies says:

    Cammy and MAB are nearly certain to play.

    Not too aware regarding Price. If I was coach, I’d still play Halak, seeing that Ottawa is currently a playoff team. Price should take on the Panthers.

  85. hab lifer says:

    no actually Cammalleri isn’t supposed to play until at least Wednesday. that’s what JM said.

  86. c.robillard says:

    I don’t think price is gonna play, I mean Halak has been solid as per usual, and this is a really big 4 pointer that is crucial to cementing our place at the big show.

  87. Habscat says:

    Totally agree. Gorges is out of his element on the Powerplay. Spacek is out of his element when he plays hockey. Brutal.


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  88. showey47 says:

    In all fairness to spacek he has been playing the right side this year when he has spent his entire career on the left side. Its not an easy adjustment to make at any level of elite hockey never mind the nhl.

  89. habs001 says:

    i would rather see philly beat atlanta as the thrasher play boston and toronto at home next week…mondayssgame with ottawa will not be as easy as some people think…we can win 3 out of the next 4 but if we lost 3/4 i dont think it would be a huge shock or upset…

  90. badbalance says:

    Yeah, we werent so strong yesterday comming off 4 days off after playing constant games and being on fire during that time. Those 4 days off broke our momentum in my opinion. Hopefully we can get it back against Ottawa.


    BTW, are Cammy and Bergie commin back tomorrow?

  91. slapshot777 says:

    I know Cammy will be back but I never heard anything on Bergeron. I think JM is deciding where to put him.


    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  92. showey47 says:

    jesus, i’ve watched the entire sabres/canes game there is 5 minutes left and i didn’t even know chris lee was officiating. Why can’t he be this stealthy when he does our games?

  93. habs_agardiner says:

    Who goes back down. Darche or Pyatt. I would say Pyatt.

  94. SeriousFan09 says:

    Darche can’t go back down without being exposed to waivers, so Pyatt will get his ticket punched to Hamilton.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  95. homerbowen says:

    OK …….. I just got back to home (Southern Ontario) from a brief vacation. I then read we lost to the Laffs  last night. I am just sick. How can this be? Let the whippings begin.

  96. mrhabby says:

    we gained a point..we have won 13 out of 14 points.

  97. showey47 says:

    waiver exposure or not,darche deserves to be here ahead of pyatt and probably laps also.

  98. HugeHabsFan says:

    Agreed. 110%.

    ……….. “Thank you Cammy for making my day even more amazing!” I STILL BELIEVE. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE.

  99. Ayan_SB says:

    For those who missed Latendresse’s hit on Mayers today. Lats destroys him, and also breaks the penalty box door.


  100. Da Hema says:

    Nice hit. I wished he had done that when he was here rather than ice-sleeping throughout his tenure with the Habs.


    “There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge….”

    –Hunter S. Thompson

  101. oshawahabsfan says:

    Maybe they had an ongoing squabble from their Leafs and Canadiens days. Of course if Gui was playing for us, a hit such as this would not have occurred

  102. HabFanSince72 says:

    Philly already down 2-0 to Atlanta.

    They could well be the team that misses the playoffs. No keeper, and they have a few games left against Pittsburgh and NJ.

  103. WestHab says:

    and Markov is still healthy.

  104. Harani says:

    If Phoeix wins in Dalls and San Jose loses, the Coyotes take 1st place in the Pacific Divison. Totally Impressive. I don’t think Dave Tipett and Ilya Bryzgalov are getting half the credit they deserve for the season they’re having. 

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  105. ManApart says:

    The Phoenix story is the biggest story of the year. I mean this team was God awful and hadn’t made the playoffs in like 5 years. In one year they turn it around and are challenging for the top 3 spots in the NHL? Look at their team, it doesn’t even look playoff calibre on paper. Shows you what chemistry, good coaching and good goaltending can do. Very interested to see how they do in the playoffs, because right now nobody in the world can beat them.

  106. HabsFansince49 says:

    How is it possible logically to have assistant [to the] captain if there is no captain? Much like she is Vice-President of a company that has no president.

  107. SeriousFan09 says:

    Popular Misconception: The A on the player’s jerseys stands for Alternate, not Assistant.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  108. longtimehabsfan says:

    Philly’s goaltending has been awful this weekend. 

  109. ooder says:

    and i don’t think/hope it will get any better


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  110. ManApart says:

    Anyone notice that Kovalev is so bad this year, it’s not even funny. Just brutal. Thank God that he hesitated on BG’s offer. We’d have 2 years of Kovy’s disappearing act and no Gionta. Also, check out Tanguay, that guy is even worse. What a bad trade BG made to get him 2 summers ago. No wonder this team was garbage last year. Kovy, Tanguay, Higgins, AK46, Lats (MTL version), SK74 (party boy version), Price (party boy version, plus the injuries.Gotta feel for Carbo.

  111. Da Hema says:

    I confess the happiest I felt about the Habs in years came when Kovalev did not re-sign with the Canadiens. Lamentably, I used to be happy when the Habs would win the Cup. My expectations have certainly been lowered over the years.


    “There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge….”

    –Hunter S. Thompson

  112. ooder says:

    it’s painful to watch eh…

    when we played tampa i completely forgot that tanguay even played for that team. 

    kovy belongs in mtl though… i am not surprise he is underperforming, considering he didn’t even want to play in ottawa


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  113. badbalance says:

    I still miss Kovy on the PP, he actually made the other team back up and stay in their positions during PP situations, noone would dare charge at Kovy with the hands he has, he can quarterback the PP and was lethal shooting from the right side, and lets not forget, he skates into the enemy territory better than Gomez. And also, most important, Kovy performs during the playoffs and puts up numbers.

    It seems like people have forgot how much of a game breaker Kovy can be any game, he can turn the game around at any moment. Sure he dissapears sometimes, but he’s theres when we need him at key moments. Wasn’t he one of the only players to score against boston in the playoffs. Like 2 out of a total of like the 5 goals we scored in the series against Boston..

  114. Harani says:

    San Jose has to be the ultimate choker team! Down 2-0 to the Oilers in the first.

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  115. longtimehabsfan says:

    Good one going on in Philly.  Flyers throwing everything at the net and being stoned 2-0 after two.  Thrashers playing hard.

  116. jimmy shaker says:

    Drum roll please…………..Can’t wait for Michel Lacroix to announce #13 Michael Cammalleri for the starting lineup, and then to also announce him on the habs first goal of the game on the PP from MAB and Andrei Markov, after a little bit of Pierre Houde and eh le but!!!!!!!!……That should just about bring down the house.  First time all year that we will have a full healthy lineup.  So with Cammy and MAB back, pyatt and Laps will get squeezed out.  I just hope JM plays MAB on the D and rotates him in with Hammer and Spacek and Gill, and then allows Cammy, ak46, gio and poully to double shift with Metro and Darche.  That would be ideal!  Let’s see how fast the PP recovers with MAB shooting bombs from the point, and Cammy taking cross ice pass’ from Markov with his patented one knee on the ice one timer.  It’s going to be awesome tomorrow.  Jaro get’s the nod  again, and Carey will go on Wed. vs the sabres.  And I do believe somehow next year that Kovalev will be back with us come trade deadline day for a 3rd rounder.  You could just tell that he wants to be back from his interview today.  Anyhow hope atlanta keeps it up vs philly and we get a chance for 5th spot tomorrow all by our lonesome selves.

    Shake and Bake, I’m done!


  117. HardHabits says:

    You know our expectations will have sunk to an all-time low if the City of Montreal ever riots just for the Habs making the playoffs. I still can’t get over rioting just for winning a round. It’s the proverbial walking to school in the winter uphill barefoot story. Back in my day, we used to riot when the Habs won the Cup.

  118. mr.a. says:

    Question: Wouldn’t the habs’ chances of winning # 25 increase dramatically by benching noskillgill and replacing him with PK?

  119. Harani says:


    “I gotta a feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  120. Kooch7800 says:

    Gill has zero foot speed I will give you that.  BUT he is amazing on the penalty kill and he has experience.  PK is doing well in Hamilton and I think it will only help him in the long run.

    In my opinion Gill has been getting better the 2nd half of this season.

    When we get MAB back and Cammy our powerplay should see some serious life.  Not sure who will sit out for MAB though.

  121. linp says:

    I want Cammy back ASAP but not so much MAB. I still think that we need to change the PP system. Get more point shots and guys in the crease. MAB would help but not decisive.

    If they are going to play MAB, I have the feeling that they’ll sit Darche instead of Laps. Not that I like Laps over Darche.


  122. lavie says:

    Question: have you ever watched any Habs’ game recently?

  123. SeriousFan09 says:

    The Finnish Flash joins the 600 Goals Club, Teemu Selanne makes it 3-0 for Anaheim over Colorado. He is the 19th NHL player to hit the mark, he needs two more to top Jari Kurri’s 601 to score more goals than any Finnish player.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  124. Bryan says:

    Hockeysfuture released an updated ranking of the Canadiens’ prospects… guess who’s #1!



    The Habs are making me Bi-Polar.

  125. SeriousFan09 says:

    Doubt anyone’s shocked about that one.

    Am impressed that Kristo and Leblanc were able to hop up the prospects list, lot of new names on our top 20 I see, with some good reports on them.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  126. showey47 says:

    I was reading that over the weekend,great to see both kristo and leblanc both win rookie of the year in their respective leagues.

  127. HabFanSince72 says:

    Odd to see Pyatt ranked number 15.


  128. jimmy shaker says:

    MAB proves your point exactly…….Markov is a pass first guy not a shoot first guy….hammer couldn’t raise the puck off the ice if his life depended on it, (always gets his shots blocked)  and I think I could shoot harder then him myself. Spacek has been a bust on the PP….has been playing better the second half of the year, just not offensively, and Gorges does not even belong on the ice on the PP, let’s be honest.  So to add to your point of getting more shots from the point and crashing the crease etc, MAB is the only guy out of the above names that is a shoot first guy and loves to hammer it from the point.  So he is the answer to the PP woes, just like he was when he first came aboard in the beginning of the season……and I’m pretty sure that was when the PP started to click and climb up the ranks.  MAB and Cammy will be huge lifts to the PP tomorrow guarentee.  And JM won’t take Darche out of the lineup unless he’s hurt.  How can you take him out…..he’s done everything and more that laps does, plus when Laps was out for the 4 games, I believe we were 4 wins and 0 losses.  So another strike against Lapierre.  I like Laps, but just feel that he is the odd man out tomorrow with Cammy and MAB coming back.


  129. HugeHabsFan says:

    I loved Kovy as much as the next fan – when he was hot.  Problem is, when you’re hot and cold like he is, you’re not dependable. When you’re not dependable, you’re not getting signed for any length of time, with any significant contract.

    If he was consistent – I’d take him in a heart beat.

    ……….. “Thank you Cammy for making my day even more amazing!” I STILL BELIEVE. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE.

  130. smiler2729 says:

    Hal Gill rocks, big guys always appear slow, he’s fantastic on the PK with that wingspan sweeping stick, blocks way more shots than Komisarek did. You just wish he had a mean streak too and bodychecked more but then he’d be caught out of position…

  131. smiler2729 says:

    The rioting is pretty much just idiots who aren’t even hockey fans taking the opportunity to be the low class scum that they are.

  132. HugeHabsFan says:

    I like Laps too, but honestly – if they sit Darche instead of Laps, I’ll be shocked.  And peeved, lol.

    ……….. “Thank you Cammy for making my day even more amazing!” I STILL BELIEVE. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE.

  133. showey47 says:

    He surely didn’t hurt the pens chances of winning the cup being paired with scuderi as a shut down pair.

  134. habs4ever2894 says:

    Atlanta vs Phoenix for the cup…….

  135. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Attendance: 145

    30 Phoenix fans and record setting 45 Thrashers fans. Rest of the tickets were bought by Habs and Leafs fans.

  136. ooder says:

    edmonton 3 – SJ 0

    hahahahhahah… oh man that team is like clockwork


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  137. SeriousFan09 says:

    Actually, their clock is running fast, they’re supposed to this next month.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  138. Harani says:

    Come the end of the season, Ottawa and SanJose seem to be the best bet to choke. What a collapse!

    “I gotta a feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  139. longtimehabsfan says:

    PK baby! PK!  How about a movie titled Waiting for David Fischer?

  140. lavie says:

    One is with Heatley; the other was with Heatley. So, never touch Heatley.

  141. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Wow..and I thought the Sharks would snap their 4 game losing streaking by pounding the Oilers tonight. 3-0 Edmonton after 2.

    And the Thrashers defeat the Flyers tonight as Pavelec stole one for his team after stopping 44 of 45 shots. Habs are getting their 2nd chance to grab the 5th seed on Monday.

    We better not blow this chance…again.

  142. Omit says:

    Is that your new mode of transportation or is your tank at the shop for repairs?

  143. Harani says:

    But Philly would still have a game in hand to make it up. But 5th at least for a day if we win and could fall to 6th at worst!

    “I gotta a feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  144. longtimehabsfan says:

    Remember all those games in hand held by Philly and Ottawa?  Looks like the work load has caught up with each.

  145. HabFanSince72 says:

    In other news the Leafs are only 4 points behind Tampa, NY Isles, and Carolina. Hopefully they move up to get a number 5 pick for Boston.

  146. lavie says:

    Now, three teams all played 72 games with 79 points.

  147. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Yes! Now those teams don’t have any games in hand and they have as many points as the Habs. Showtime baby!

  148. ooder says:

    the funny thing is heatley is the only one that performs in the playoffs or big stages


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  149. lavie says:

    lol. Just tried to find a link between the two teams.

  150. ooder says:

    haha i know what you mean…

    it’s just funny that the only link… is the only one who has results in high pressure situations


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  151. hab lifer says:

    Phoenix did it again! beat Dallas, now 9 wins in a row, and sit in 1st place in  the western conference, provided the sharks lose(currently losing 3-0 to Edmonton in tghe 3rd period).

    yahoo! Coyotes have a great chance to win the cup!

  152. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Coyotes win 9th straight. Just took over San Jose’s spot and now lead the division. They have as many points as Chicago now! HOLY $%#!

  153. BKAK72 says:

    If HABS don’t win CUP my preference is for  COYOTES vs THRASHERS final. 

    — I will not apologize for being a delirious HABS fan! —

  154. wall2bay says:

    Actually no! Gill has been one of our better D-men. The guy I would,t mind seeing PK replacing is Spacek or maybe even Hamrlik. Both guys are getting up there in age and are overpaid considering the mkt.

    Spacek is a turnover machine and has done nowhere near what he was expected to do on the PP. Hammer has been a warrior this season loggin a ton of minutes but he’s overpaid and on the decline.

    Brian Burke = Overrated Loud Mouth POS

  155. Bugs says:

    (heavy Arnold accent)

    Venn I told zem zey could take zose games een hand und shove zem, I didn’t meen for zem to take it leet-terally.

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  156. light_n_tasty says:

    Look out.  With Atlanta’s win, the Habs are only 4 points out of 9th…

  157. Da Hema says:

    What is with the attack on Gill? There are other players on the Habs who are just brutal–Lapierre comes to mind–yet you focus on the player who has helped our penalty killing the most! No one will ever nominate Gill for the Norris trophy, but he is not a liability on the ice such as Lapierre (who, by the way, would be riding in the buses in Hamilton if his name were ThePeter).


    “There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge….”

    –Hunter S. Thompson

  158. jimmy shaker says:

    Did anyone catch on the RDS website that Price has got new white equipment again?  I translated it and if it came out right, it said he was fretting all white equipment….it was the article titled canadiens seeking 3rd place.  I know Price has done better in the white pads throughout his career so let’s hope he can get it going again vs the sabres on Wednesday night….until then, Jaro for the win tomorrow vs the sens with cammy and MAB back in the lineup please!


  159. Flabadagub says:

    Heck yes.

  160. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    With that win, the Habs are also 1 point away from 5th :)

  161. Omit says:

    That’s the spirit.

  162. Harani says:


    If we win tomorrow, we’ll be guaranteed 5th which is not true. It’s true that we’ll be in 5th till Tuesday and then we’ll be down to 6th because the Flyers and Sens play each other and they both have more wins than us.

    “I gotta a feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”




  163. avatar_58 says:

    Good. Honestly I wish he’d go back to the blue mask too – with or without the country theme. It just looked better.

  164. Exit716 says:

    Heatley performs on big stages?


    Is that why he was invisible when the Senators lost to the Ducks?


  165. spoonfullofjelly says:

    I’m not going to lie, last game I thought I saw Price sitting there with white pads on…I might have been hallucinating however….anyone else see this? mind you it was only a quck glimpse….

  166. Say Ash says:

    I wish he’d go back to winning – he can wear Cheevers’ mask for all I care

  167. ooder says:

    22 points in 20 games… playing on a broken ankle.. not to bad..

    i still wouldn’t want him on my team though.. looks like bad luck


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  168. Ayan_SB says:

    He was pretty good for Team Canada.

  169. andrewberkshire says:

    I saw Cory Clouston near the Scotia Bank Theatre downtown and he looked anything but upbeat. He looked nervous and pissed off.

  170. spoonfullofjelly says:

    Look I’m not a big Hal Gill fan, and would haev rathered we not sign him…I think he should receive limited minutes 5-5 on 5, but is a must on the PK….that lie down swing stcik move gimes him like 15 feet of reach…..nice.

  171. spoonfullofjelly says:

    probably had a disagreement with Kovalev.

  172. Nick_Habs1 says:

    Thats what he looks like all the time lol

  173. habs11s says:

    FYI, Atlanta is an uncomfortable 4 points away from us… just saying


    It should make for an interesting last 10 games


    “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

  174. andrewberkshire says:

    Probably! I was surprised how short he is, about my height, and I’m only 5’7″.

  175. ABHabsfan says:

    If the coyotes win the cup, and Bettman goes and presents it to Doan, when he usually congratulates the owner(s), will he congratulate himself or all the other owners in the NHL?

  176. spoonfullofjelly says:

    did you wish him luck tomorrow?

  177. Harani says:

    If we win tomorrow,  we’ll be in 5th till Tuesday and then we’ll be down to 6th because the Flyers and Sens play each other and they both have more wins than us.


    “I gotta a feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  178. Les-Habitants says:

    Word on the street is that both MAB and Cammy might be playing against Ottawa tomorrow, great news.  Help us down the stretch, and hopefully get that powerplay firing again.

  179. SeriousFan09 says:

    Cammy one-timers from the faceoff circle, been missing that for a long time now, if he recharges AK, watch out Ottawa.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  180. andrewberkshire says:

    Not a chance in hell.

  181. HugeHabsFan says:

    Now that IS the spirit!!

    ……….. “Thank you Cammy for making my day even more amazing!” I STILL BELIEVE. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE.

  182. christophor says:

    hopefully that shootout goal will put some life into AK. once he gets his confidence, he get his goals

  183. christophor says:

    the question is, if the yotes make it to the final, will we see a game 7 with 7000 in the stands?

  184. Say Ash says:

    Yup, the sniper and the cannon are back

  185. Bugs says:

    Did you give’m a kiss and ask’m to be our coach?

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  186. christophor says:

    so an all ontario battle tomorrow night and tsn is showing pitt v detroit.

    if the leafs were playing the isles, it would definitely be shown via tsn.

    people in ontario (and canada) have every right to hate canadian sports media.

  187. Ayan_SB says:

    Habs continue to gel

    Jaroslav Halak finished telling a
    group of reporters his work against the Toronto Maple Leafs was not
    quite good enough and then paused.

    “Anyone else?” the Montreal Canadiens goaltender asked.

    Well, wondered one latecomer, even if you did lose a shootout to the
    Leafs, how has your team managed to dance well into NHL playoff
    territory after going into the Olympic break barely hanging on to
    eighth place in the Eastern Conference?

    “Teamwork,” Halak said.


  188. christophor says:

    oops. thanks.

    i meant all canadian.

  189. habs11s says:

    TSN needs to support Crosby anyway they can……even if it means snubbing the Habs vs. Sens game


    “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

  190. andrewberkshire says:

    Didn’t even talk to him Bugs, he wasn’t very approachable.

  191. christophor says:

    i would just hate to be an ottawa fan because, well other than the fact that i would be an ottawa fan, i would hate not having anything to watch but 5 games on sportsnet east. theres always rds for the habs.

  192. andrewberkshire says:

    And they were only 5 points back for the last week. Who cares.

  193. Ayan_SB says:

    Not saying Cory Clouston is famous, but you could usually spot a celebrity or a popular athlete at Paramount movie theater, especially during the summer.

  194. CHsam says:

    Whatza matta? CIA got you puzhing too meny penzils?

  195. HardHabits says:

    This is my new ride. It’s the most basic of back to basics ABC rebuilds entitled “Learning How to Build a Team: From Stumbling Blocks to Building Blocks.”

  196. HardHabits says:

    You really don’t know how to read between the lines do you. Everything to you is unerrant truth. It’s an analogy for lowered expectations. Sports rioting is idiotic, in fact all sports hooliganism is, but that’s not the point, which I am sure nobody disputes, it’s that given the gap between Cups from ’79 to ’86, which back then was longer than our current 17 years by comparison, the masses displayed their joy in a spontaneous bachannalia, in ’93 it was just a rehash and pretty much planned, everyone knew it was going to happen, everyone except the police that is, but two years ago to see the same shit happen for a 1st round series win was beyond pathetic.

    It’s not that far removed for all the enthusiasm here for the Habs looking like they’re going to make the playoffs. I wont party for the Habs proper until they win the Cup. Anything short of that is, either in a season or as a goal over the course of a team building process, not going to cut it. I don’t believe the Habs have enough in the tank to make a long playoff run. I also don’t believe any type of a long term build is happening either. My gut instinct tells me that it’s the same old same old make the playoffs for a little  Bell Centre profit and bow out for the links before the 2nd season is over. People should be rioting over that crap.

  197. dpthehabsfan says:

    Team work and Solid Goaltending, he should have answered.

    If there is a perfect goaltender, the game of hockey would never be played again.

  198. MontrealAtheist says:

    Pens-Wings may not involve Canadian teams, but it involves the two Stanley Cup finalists as well as Canada’s golden goal scorer, so TSN should be forgiven for choosing that match instead of the Sens-Habs game.

  199. Bugs says:

    You haff vhat you vant; now giff da people eair!

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  200. nunacanadien says:

    What about the rookies stepping up to the plate when they are called up and then penalized for winning by being sent down?

  201. nunacanadien says:

    What about the rookies stepping up to the plate when they are called up and then penalized for winning by being sent down?

  202. badbalance says:

    The team and the core was good over these years. Gretzky could not lead them in the right direction, a coach changed everything on this team. They were not that bad on paper considering Gretzky was leading them. Look at what Gretzky did to team Canada in 1996…. he would probably make Crosby struggle to get 50 points a season if he were playing on phoenix and getting coached by Gretzky. I mean sure Gretzky was the greatest player of all time, he can’t coach…   

  203. showey47 says:

    Its been more like 9 years but hey, who’s counting. So,you could give kudos to a team that has made the playoffs once in a decade but can’t do it for a team that makes it every year? I don’t get it? Are you going to bitch about the yotes if they lose in the first round like you do when the habs lose? Something tells me no. I also doubt you have any knowledge about their goaltending,chemistry or coaching. Since you have zero knowledge about anything else.

  204. smiler2729 says:

    I thought Bob Probert’s A in Detroit stood for alcoholic… and Darcy Tucker’s A in Toronto stood for a**hole…

  205. SeriousFan09 says:

    Sometimes there are hidden meanings behind a particular A, you are correct sir.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  206. christophor says:

    sorry for two post in such quick succession, but how funny and/or sad would it be for hossa if it was chicago vs pitt in the final and pitt took the cup? or if chicago got knocked out by detroit and detroit went on to win the cup against pitt?

    what are the odds?

  207. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Based on last 2 seasons, 100%.

  208. joeybarrie says:

    Pouliot, Gionta and Cammalleri all close to a 40 goal pace for 82 games.

    Markov, Gomez and Pleks on pace for a 50 assist season for 82 games.

    If AK steps us like we know he can, we will have 2 pretty dangerous lines.

    Moore, Darche, Metro, Moen and SK all do well for 3rd and 4th lines.

    Markov, OByrne

    Hamr, Spacek

    Gorges, PK Subban

    Gill as 7th on PK duty.

    MAB, don’t know exactly where he fits in. I would rather see a 20 goal scorer for the third line, who doesnt just get them on the point as a D on PP.

    I think we are looking pretty good for next season. We will challenge for top ten in the league.


    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  209. HardHabits says:

    Aren’t you forgetting the goaltender(s)? Care to do a little math and add all that up because I have a hard time figuring out how Plex, Gio, Gomez, Hammer, Pouliot, Markov AND one or both of Halak and Price add up to not going over the cap.

    MAB was a + as a D and – as an O.

    MAB, blood type, O negative.

  210. TomNickle says:

    I don’t think Roman makes it through the draft as a Hab Joey.  Somebody will take that salary for a year.  Especially if they can flip him for an asset at the deadline next season.  The tricky part to all of this is priority.  I would rather be short on cash because we overpaid Andrei Markov than short on cash because we overpaid Tomas Plekanec.  I really don’t want to see Andrei Markov put on another jersey in his career.

  211. Harani says:

    Hawks or Caps for me! Now only if they can find some solid goaltending a la Cam Ward circa 2006.

    “I gotta a feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  212. SeriousFan09 says:

    Better the Pens than the Phoenix Parasites.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  213. HabFanSince72 says:

    I’ve only ever known you to really hate one team.

  214. christophor says:

    i posted this below, but do we think phoenix can even fill the stands in a game 7 stanley cup final? joke of a franchise.

  215. SeriousFan09 says:

    If the tickets are 15$ a seat, sure. If the tickets are what it would cost to maintain that franchise? They’d be lucky to get 7000 likely.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  216. Kristopher7 says:

    Um, I hope you know that their 8th win during their current 9 win streak was played at home. It sold out. I can assure you that a stanley cup final in phx would sell out.

  217. Kristopher7 says:

    Wow, you guys are delusional. They’re tied for first in the West and are selling out games at home. Where do you get your info? Maybe LAST YEAR when they were one of the worst teams in the league it was hard to get 7000 into the arena. You know what they say, WIN, AND THEY WILL COME.

  218. SeriousFan09 says:

    They’ve slashed their ticket prices so that people will show up because it’s dirt cheap to go there. If people have to pay the price of what it costs to fill those arenas (Not 25$ a seat!) than they’ll have a much harder time filling the place up. Cheap tickets with free parking and food attached means the Canadiens and all the other earning teams are paying for the Parasites to play.

    I’m not delusional, I observe that the sunbelt strategy has been a disaster and that hockey is the #4 sport in the US and there’s no real link between the desert and hockey besides a general novelty. If it takes Phoenix having a Top 5 NHL team and 25$ lower bowl tickets to get a sellout, I will call it as it is.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  219. HABWARRIOR says:

    God your comments are so stupid.Never nothing good to say.Already predicting an exit fromthe playoffs assuming we make it u say….geeez….are u always that negative towards things in your life.Sad….really really sad….sux 2 b u.

  220. HABWARRIOR says:

    he hates himself too.

  221. habs001 says:

    while next 5 games for atlanta are boston toronto(2) and carolina(2),,,their last 5 are pitts(2) wash (2) and nj…

  222. ooder says:

    team canada broke nabokov lol


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  223. ooder says:

    nevermind… i jsut saw teh replays and the defense of the sharks just left him out to dry.

    1 goal he should have had, while the other was on a breakaway.

    other then that the sharks were crap


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  224. jimhasbeen says:

    how big is this game?!?!

    i think it determines how far we go in the playoffs—

    can the boys raise their game to the next level..

    because after watching the nucks/wings on sat night–it made leafs/habs look like ahl–maybe worse

  225. HUDSONHAB says:

    It’s funny that you mention the AHL, the Marlies beat the Bulldogs in a shootout earlier on Saturday.

    It was an important point not to get but you have to be careful what you wish for, getting 5th might mean getting Brodeur. 6th,Miller. 7th,Sidney. 8th,OV.

    Just be playing well and be ready for what ever comes our way.


  226. SeriousFan09 says:

    PG is going to tell Bettman that we’re going to consider all the revenue-sharing cash we’ve had to waste propping up his crap sunbelt teams as a subtraction off the cap from now on.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  227. dpthehabsfan says:

    Koavalev… Kovalev … Kovalev…

    So much talent …so little desire to win.


  228. SeriousFan09 says:

    He is forever L’Artiste though and I find that a very accurate description. He could paint a masterpiece when he found his inspiration, but would rarely choose to do all he could when commissioned to do lesser works. 


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  229. matmacat says:

    Nah, he’s trying. I think he just can’t harness his abilities. So sometimes he’s on, other times he’s not. And he doesn’t know what he’s doing different. He’s just a streaky player. Live with it.

  230. HABWARRIOR says:

    sure he has talent but talent alon cant get ya 100 points and 40 goals every year.He’s (IMO) a little overrated and has been his whole career.

  231. Bugs says:

    …desire to win…

    Don’t judge another man’s desire to win, DP; you don’t know it. He DID win. Messier says HE was an important part of their run. Messier says it. DP or Messier, DP or Messier, hmmm; I’ll go with Messier.

    But let’s consider the straight dope.

    A) He’s not in Mtl.

    B) He ain’t a spring chicken.

    Always able to overcome one of those handicaps but not both. Give the guy a break. Our greatest offensive star since Lafleur, give the guy a break.

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  232. habsperspective says:

    Habs have no reason to only play 20 minutes tomorrow night.  Sens have taken 4 of 5 from the Habs this season, including both at the Bell.


    They should be drudged, and left for dead, no mercy!

  233. nightmare_49 says:

    …  Marouelli’s last call / by Jim Matheson ……………………….  http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/Marouelli+last+call/2708144/story.html ………………..  Marouelli will be 55 in July and he’s quitting just as Bill McCreary and Kerry Fraser are retiring, none working any playoff games so they can have a date on the calendar to say goodbye.

     Marouelli’s last game will be in Montreal, fitting because one of his first-ever games was there, when he was a linesman in 1982, not a referee.

    In his early days, the legendary New York Islanders coach Al Arbour got so mad at him, his false teeth fell out.

    “I went over to the bench to face the man, and he started to say ‘Jesus Christ,’ and as he’s saying it, the spit comes out of his mouth and lands on my face. Then his teeth flew out. He caught them just before they fell. I said to Al, ‘If you’re going to be spitting at me, I can’t be talking to you.’ “

  234. Kristopher7 says:



    The stu grimson fight that goes with this article, if anyone is interested.

  235. G-Man says:

    He’s a LOT overrrated.

  236. Bugs says:


    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  237. Bugs says:


    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  238. habzfan2003 says:

    God love dem Hotlanta Thrashers :)

  239. Kristopher7 says:

    I also love how Ottawa and Philly stink as of late 😀

  240. Bugs says:

    And god bless’em too. Every one.

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  241. Kristopher7 says:

    PHX, streak: won 9. Unreal.

  242. Bugs says:

    Good thing we don’t have to think about them for another month.

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  243. HabFanSince72 says:

    What’s up with AK46? No goals, no shots on goal, nothing.

  244. SeriousFan09 says:

    Got the GWG against the Oilers in SO and was the only Canadiens player to score against TO in our last shootout, he’s coming back along and Cammy is going to get him going full steam.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  245. HabFanSince72 says:

    Shootout goals are fine but in regulation he has been dire. No shots on goal in the last two games.

  246. HabFanSince72 says:

    Check out Joe Thornton’s play on the first Oiler goal:


    He gest stripped of the puck at centre, and just stops skating. In fact he slowly glides back to the bench while the Edmonton player streaks towards goal.



  247. HABWARRIOR says:

    dude he’ll come around,and pplus his bro is producing…soon both will be.

  248. Bugs says:

    There it is! The case-cracker!

    This ONE play totally encapsulates Joe Thornton’s entire contribution to the NHL.

    Completely useless on a hockey club, Joe Thornton.

    Thanks, Sincey.

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  249. Bugs says:

    What’s with all the jam in your doughnut this morning, Sincey?

    You know AK. We know AK. Everybody knows AK. And we ALL agree that’s once AK gets ONE goal, THAT’S when we see “what’s up with AK.”

    C’mon, now. Don’t start stuff afore we even get our bathrobes on.

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  250. SeriousFan09 says:

    It is Joe Thornton, this the guy who thinks that clutch play has something to do with how NASCAR racers drive.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  251. Bugs says:

    We’re past the trade deadline, Cloudy. They’re on the club til July 1st.

    Pay attention, would you?


    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

  252. TomNickle says:

    It’s hard not to look ahead to the end of the season and the electricity that is Habs, Playoff Hockey.  It doesn’t matter if you’re a cynic, pessimist, optimist or even a troll.  Everyone knows that once you get to the tournament, anybody can win Lord Stanley’s Cup.

  253. sholi2000.com says:

    Martin screwed it up.  Carey should have been in nets Saturday night.  They have to go with Halak for these important games because Halak is the number one guy.  It kills me to say that as I’m a huge Price fan, but like I said Martin screwed it up.  Now the Sens are due for a win and if they start Price and we lose then the whole it’s all Price’s fault will start again.

    Halak all the way.  Go big or go home.

    They call me Shane

  254. sholi2000.com says:

    The Sens are due to break out. 

    Not looking forward to tonight.

    Hopefully with a full healthy Canadiens lineup we can pound these losers back tot he stone age.

    They call me Shane

  255. habbyone says:

    Wow. I knew you would come around. Price will be a #1 someday.

  256. TomNickle says:

    The thing is that the team didn’t play well Saturday night, and that’s not Halak’s fault, which is the same reason Carey Price got pulled in Anaheim.  So, you can be sure that Price plays tonight and you can be sure that if there’s a lackluster effort from the team, a loss will be Price’s fault.  The players can’t just throw their support behind one guy, whether it be Price or Halak, they need to be accountable to their teammates for their play and not let the goaltender in net dictate their game.

  257. SLONCOLD says:

    which team shows up tonight? the one that can win 6 in a row or the one that can’t beat the leafs lol

    The powerplay needs some work and if they can’t fix it, i fear the habs might struggle down the stretch.

  258. SLONCOLD says:

    gotta say i was surprised not to see price on saturday.

  259. joeybarrie says:

    Having MAB and Camma in there will help ALOT.

    Even if they don’t do the scoring. They add a deadly shot (on the point and a one timer) that the PK has to keep in check. This usually leaves a hole for us to take advantage of. This is why our PP has been so effective. Many tools that work.

    Since MAB has been out, no point shot. The PK takes advantage of having to cover less.

    I have also noticed the teams have been pressing us from before we can settle, and we have been unusually bad at setting up inside the zone.


    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  260. notbigbird says:

    I was playing with Chrome (Google Browser) on the weekend. There’s a great extension for Google Translate that would come in handy for some of us uni-language types on this site. There’s a button which automatically translates a page from French to English. In fact, it seemed to do it without even clicking after a time or two. Great stuff. I looked for a similar Firefox extension but couldn’t find the like. I liked Chrome but will revert to Firefox for now because I like where its tabs are located and the fact that it remembers your preferred viewing size for a page. But I think Chrome is a definite contender. IE, I won’t even talk about.

  261. SLONCOLD says:

    dude, seriously he gave up 2 goals……………

  262. TomNickle says:

    Ok.  On the weekend you came after me for saying Halak hasn’t been playing well and now I’m coming after you a bit.  You say that you’re a goaltender, right?  Well, as a goaltender you should know that just because you only give up one or two goals in a game doesn’t mean that your game is good or where you want it to be.  It’s about quality shots, and when you’re letting in goals from the top of the circle at the boards with no screen, you aren’t playing well.  When you’re so deep in your net that shooters can pick a far side corner from 40 feet, you’re too deep in your net.  When rebounds are consistently bouncing 5 feet directly in front of you, instead of into the corner or up in the air, you aren’t playing well.  If you are a goaltender(and I believe you are) you would have to agree with that.  And if you’re watching Halak, you’re seeing these things.

  263. notbigbird says:

    I’ll be happy enough to have MAB back as long as he just plays the PP. I have no faith in him anywhere else. Someday, maybe we’ll get a point man who isn’t a liability elsewhere.

  264. smiley4 says:


    I was at the Keg on York Street in Toronto Friday afternoon with a couple buddies. We were waiting for a 4th

    friend who was a no show. Anyways 2 guys come up to us and ask if the two seats were available. My buddy says no(anti-Habs fan from Beaconsfield) as we were waiting for our friend. Anyways I said to one friend that the guy looks like Roman Hamrlik. It was Hamrlik and Tom Pyatt. They were drinking Stella Artois’. Hope they didn’t have too much because the team played Saturday night as if hungover.

    IMO if we finish 6th we probably play Buffalo which I think is a good match-up. If we finish 7th looks like we play either NJ or Pittsburgh-I don’t want to face either. Obviously 8th place gets us Washington.

    Your thoughts?

  265. smiley4 says:

    Oh and by the way I offered the seats to both and said I would stand if our friend showed. Hammer said

    I was living in the wrong city being a Habs fan but I said there were thousands of Habs fans in Toronto.

  266. nunacanadien says:

    Nope, cause then if Price lost we’d say JM screwed us up and guaranteed a bad playoff spot just to make Gauthier happy by playing Price. 

  267. nunacanadien says:

    Not with the way he plays for the Habs.  Nope, Price needs a big team to win, oh wait he had the Olympics and he crumbled there too…..

  268. jimhasbeen says:

    thats so cool! 

    seems like an odd couple–hammer and pyzy

    although hammer looks like he knows how to put the beers away.

    i’m all for a mon-pit first round!  the other teams are too scary in the first round.

    i think pit is most ripe in the first before the really get settled in.

    plus we beat them in 97! right? 

  269. smiley4 says:

    Yes an odd pairing. I did not recognize Pyatt so I looked him up on Saturday and realized it was him.

    Odd couple indeed.

  270. Iceberg84 says:

    Funny stuff from the Canadiens website. I think their writers need to update their articles before posting them online. This article was posted yesterday: http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=522125&navid=DL|MTL|home

    Some highlights:

    The troops from the nation’s capital have everything to lose in this key
    match-up, leading the Canadiens in the standings by a mere six points.

    That’s funny because I thought we were tied in the standings.

    With just xx points separating the two teams in the standings, the
    Sabres and Habs still have two games of their six-game series this
    season left to play.

    Unless I’m mistaken this last line is some kind of quadratic equation problem. Solve for x everybody!

  271. joeybarrie says:

    Agreed, his minus 11 doesnt make up for his 10 goals.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  272. ed lopaz says:

    in my opinion, halak will get the start again tonight. its the biggest game of the week and it would seem quite odd to give that game to price.

    eventhough the winning streak has been stopped, our position in the playoffs has not yet been secured.

    as I said last week, it should take both (the end of the streak and the playoff spot secured) for us to change goalies.

    of course, that’s only my gut feel – and the coach will have to go with his gut feeling on this.

  273. joeybarrie says:

    Im not sure I understand what you are saying here. No suprise….  Is there a secret Olympics I am not aware of where Price played as a Goalie for Team Canada???

    I know he has a Gold and Silver in World Juniors and U-18 Championships…  Dont remember seeing him play in the last Olympics.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  274. TomNickle says:

    I think a better 5 on 5 effort and executing when they get their chances might be a better focal point than who the goaltender is.  Some guys need to figure out that you can’t take a night off just because you played well two nights ago.  And some guys need to figure out how to make an impact when they aren’t scoring(Andrei Kostitsyn).  

    With all of that said this would be the perfect game to get Cammalleri back into the lineup.  A shot of life.

  275. joeybarrie says:

    I thought JM would start Price on Saturday. No there will be no suprise if he starts either.  Technically based on what he has said is win and your in, so Price gets the nod.  If he is going with Halak (who didn’t play great) on Sat then there will be alot to say about who we are going with till the end of the season.


    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  276. TomNickle says:

    I’m not a huge fan of his but I don’t think you’ll catch me calling him an idiot.  He’s actually a very intelligent man.  If anything, his tendency is to be too much of a thinker and is certainly not ignorant or stupid.

  277. jimmy shaker says:

    Halak tonight for sure, stamp it!  Along with Cammy and MAB making their returns as well……..therefore squeezing out Pyatt and Laps.   Price will play wed vs the sabres with his new white equipment. 


  278. Jordio-oh says:

    ahhh, i work literally a 2 minute walk from that Keg. Perhaps i should hang out there more often when the habs are in town to increase my chances of sharing a few imports with Hamrlik, ha.

  279. TomNickle says:

    I’m not very happy that it’s going to have taken this long to get him back into the net Joey.  The way he played against Boston and San Jose after the Olympic break looked a heck of a lot like the guy we saw two years ago.  And that makes him a difference maker and makes our team dangerous.

  280. SLONCOLD says:

    what does great mean for you? a shutout every night?

  281. TomNickle says:

    To those who attacked me when I said last week that Halak has been deep in his net and not playing with confidence.  Did you see Phil Kessel’s goal?

  282. hab lifer says:

    announced Halak is in tonight.

  283. habs11s says:

    I agree with you on that goal, i thought the exact same thing


    Halak is not a big goalie  so he needs to be farther out of his net for the shots from the point


    “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

  284. TomNickle says:

    Read below

  285. hab lifer says:

    Latendresse still scoring, now with 26 goals. Pouliot not scoring , still with 16 goals. just another screw up by Gainey, in a long list of his screw ups!

    let’s hope Gauthier is better, tho I think he’s actually worse.

  286. TomNickle says:

    Fair enough but I think with the injuries the team has sustained this season you would have to admit that the Coaching Staff has done a terrific job.

  287. Say Ash says:

    Kovalev asked to get off the Bell Centre ice – he misses it pretty bad, eh?

  288. jimmy shaker says:

    Ya, it was a goal scorers goal…..he took the cross ice  pass from  kulemin and as Jaro was coming across the crease, kessel shot it back against Jaro and found the top shelf where grandma keeps the cookies.  For me that’s a great shot from a sniper who knows how to snipe.  I don’t think you can argue with 6 wins and OT loss in his last 7 starts.  That doesn’t reflect a lack of confidence in my book.  Jaro will be solid again tonight and then give way to Carey to keep the momentum going vs the sabres. 


  289. ed lopaz says:

    deep in the net – possibly – but there are 3guys in the world who score on that play

    1) ovechkin

    2) kovalchuk

    3) kessel

    its the unbelievably quick release, the speed of the shot, and the ability to pick the blocker corner while moving away towards the glove hand.

    3 guys have that kind of snap / wrist shot – and NONE of the experts I’ve heard have blamed Halak – NONE.



  290. TomNickle says:

    That’s out of line on a number of levels.  First, Latendresse didn’t know what the word effort meant on 9 out of every 10 nights in Montreal and nobody in the Western conference knows him.  Second, Pouliot’s career has been injury riddled and he’s gone 3 games without scoring?  You’re blaming Bob Gainey for Guillame Latendresse having success.  You aren’t saying he’s a failure in your statement.  He got rid of a player who didn’t want to be here and brought in a player who embraces the pressure and has played his best hockey in a short time here, while injured.

  291. ed lopaz says:

    that’s ridiculous comment – gainey made mistakes – that trade is not one of them

  292. wd40 says:

    Poll time!  With 10 games remaining in this 2009-10 campaign… 


  293. TomNickle says:

    Are you telling me that it’s ok to excuse an unscreened shot from the boards, at the top of the circle, because it’s Ovechkin, Kovalchuk or Kessel?  How would you have felt if that was a series clinching goal Ed?  Better yet, how would you have felt if that were Carey Price giving up that goal in a series clinching win for a rival team in the East?

  294. TomNickle says:

    Ok, so not only was Jaro too deep in his net, he shuffled too far across his crease.  You guys can’t just chalk it up to Kessel.  It was an unscreened shot from the point, on the boards.  Would you call it a good goal if it were Price?  

    Not only that, but that goal is a true indication of how Halak’s been playing lately, not an indication of Kessel’s goal scoring prowess.  

  295. HabFanSince72 says:

    The biggest difference between Halak and Price, is that Halak doesn’t give up bad goals. Price has lapses in concentration at the worst moments.



  296. Jordio-oh says:

    what a foolish thing to say. Pouliot has 3 goals, 5 assists, +5 in 9 games since the olympic break. Few in here have said he’s been invisible or disappointing lately.

    This need to put lofty expectations on certain players for whatever reason or compare trades that have already been completed and are currently benefitting us is both stupid and pointless.

  297. jimmy shaker says:

    So when does a goal scored not become the goalies fault and just a great play or great shot by the opposing player?  Is every goal that a player scores automatically the result of the goalie playing it wrong or doing something he shouldn’t have?  Sometimes the player just needs to be congratulated for making the play and the shot. 


  298. Izzy says:

    brain dead comment

  299. Psycho29 says:

    HI/O Member for 2 days……say no more….Your “_bleu_blanc_rouge_” is showing….

  300. habs03 says:

    I guess its a learning curve, anyhow Halak in tonight team 990.

  301. ed lopaz says:

    no – the quality of the shot, on the rush, was elite NHL level. he put it blacker side, right under the cross board with great velocity, while skating at great speed – that’s ovechkin and kovalchuk territory.

    look – I watched the game, listened to a lot of commentary on the game, and NO ONE I have heard other than you blames Halak – it was a very talented play. Period.

    series clincher, or carey price in the net – none of that changes the quality of the shot.

    there are instances when the shooter deserves some credit.

    kessel happens to have an elite snap shot – well known around the league – and when he puts it in that specific spot, its very tough to stop.


  302. TomNickle says:

    You just said that one of our goaltenders doesn’t give up bad goals.  EVERY goalie gives up bad goals.  What bad moment did Price have a lapse of concentration in?  It’s stupid comments like that which put a good goalie on a pedestal that he shouldn’t be on.

  303. SLONCOLD says:

    well i will tell you this, the game looks different from a goalies perspective. Goalies have to constantly cheat to take away plays. If you constantly stay out of the blue paint, players will try to bank shots of your defenders, go off the back boards or try to find a backdoor play. If you challenge a shooter too much you can potentially open up the plays i mentioned and then have no chance at stopping them.

    If your defence collapses on you on a regular basis, a goalie has a tendency to play deep in his net ( watch price , same thing). Some times i would like to see halak challenge a shooter more in certain situations. But i thought he kept the habs in the game on saturday and played well.

    If Martin keeps playing halak despite his flaws in games,  it must make you wonder what price isn’t doing right in practise.



  304. habs11s says:

    I’ll admit that it was a good shot but Halak was clearly out of position on it too…


    “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

  305. ed lopaz says:

    what “BOARDS” are you taking about? he cut across into the middle of the ice, the best shooting area

    what “BOARDS”?

  306. mike g says:

    Simple Jack’s Not So Simple Questions“:

    1- Which organization will get sh*t on the most for not upgrading their situation in goal, after the playoffs? (WSH, PHI, CHI, OTT)

    2- Do you think that switching back from red pads to white ones will help Carey Price? (Remember when Fleury ditched the yellow ones, his play improved alot. A psychologist had told him white pads were the best for a goaltender, because it blends in better with the ice and doesn’t attract the eyes of the shooter as much.)

    3- Are you glad there are some great playoff races for the fianl spots, and oddly enough the teams fighting for them are playing vs eachother? Or, would you rather the spots be filled, so you can start planning strategies for your playoff pools?

    4- Who should sit when MAB and Cammy come back?

    5- Will the Habs pull of a regulation win tonight, or will it be a dumb 3 point game?

    Thank youuu

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  307. SeriousFan09 says:

    Halak doesn’t give up bad goals? Every legendary goalie who ever played has given up bad goals, it’s a fact of life and it’s a silly statement to make, Patrick Roy and Ken Dryden allowed more than one stinker in their time.

    He has given them up less often this season certainly compared to Price, but he has also allowed bad goals at the wrong time as well. We lost in OT to Ottawa in one of our outings because Halak has a very poor ability to handle a clean breakaway. He’s great in the shootouts usually, but his ability to handle a shooter on the breakaway is less than impressive.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  308. SeriousFan09 says:

    Very true, Latendresse had no heart for this team and Pouliot has generally shown a willingness to play in each game for Montreal, even when he hasn’t had goals he has gotten assists.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  309. Habfan29 says:

    I saw Kessels goal and I am a goalie for 38 years and there was nothing wrong with the way Halak played it. Halak was going one way and kessel shot back against the grain, very difficult stop to make even coming out of the net, he was at the top of the crease no problem, that is a timing goal from a pure goal scorer and a great shot. These types of goals happen all the time. I really find it absurd that all these posters that trash on Halak or Price have never strapped on a piar of pads in their lives!!! I would love to see that, they would be talking differently…..

  310. HabFanSince72 says:



    My language may have been somewhat un-nuanced but I think anyone would understand.

    Of course every goalie gives up bad goals. What I meant is Halak tends to not to give up   bad goals, compared to  Price who has a tendency to do so.

    The lapse in concentration that lets the other team tie the game or take the lead in the 3rd period, or win in OT is becoming a Price specialty.



  311. SaskieHabFan says:

    Wow really…. deep in his net? It was a cross ice pass and a shot top corner on the side Halak was sliding from, it was just a great shot. Halak let in 2 goals…. whats with the hatred on Halak? (he did win 6 in a row!!!)

  312. HabFanSince72 says:

    Wow, there are some concrete thinkers here today.


  313. ed lopaz says:


    here’s the goal – kessel shoots from the middle of the ice – halak is moving off his post because the pass  has come off the boards to kessel in the middle.

    kessel’s shot was from the PRIMETIME shooting area, uncontested by the d.

  314. TomNickle says:

    Michael Ryder, Marion Gaborik, Jeff Carter, Alexander Semin, Stephen Stamkos, Dany Heatley and Jarome Iginla all have shots and releases just as quick as those 3 you mention Ed.

    And you know just as well as I do that if it were Price in net for that goal he would’ve been crucified for it.  It was a bad goal.  Goalie deep in his net, shuffles too far cross crease and gets beat because he wasn’t anticipating the play.  If he’s even a foot higher in his net that puck doesn’t go in.  You disagree with my point about his depth which is valid and chalk it up to a good shooter.  This is the kind of crap that I’m talking about.  Halak is good, not great, not bad, he’s good.  And his play since the Olympics has been mediocre, not bad, not good.  He isn’t a saviour, he isn’t a scapegoat, he’s a good goaltender who isn’t playing his best right now.  And that was a bad goal.

  315. SLONCOLD says:

    soemthing to add is that he’s getting tons of ice time too, that kinda helps as well. it’s a shame we could get the same production out of him here but benny has been good for the team.

  316. Alain T says:

    CKAC just reported that CAMMY and MAB are not playing tonight.




  317. christophor says:

    boy, you’re like his lawyer.

    good research.

  318. SeriousFan09 says:

    1. Chicago, they knew they had an issue bigger than anyone going into the season with Huet/Niemi and did nothing to remedy it. Washington had promise in Varlamov after his mostly stunning performance in 08-09, Emery had past success in Ottawa for a deep playoff run and looked good for them to start, Pascal Leclaire did have a question mark over him but his 9-shutout season in Colombus did have good promise.

    2. Who knows? Price has had his best success in white pads but I think for him it was psychological when he chose red because how poor he had done with them last season, so he wanted to try and excise his demons and prove the colour of his pads didn’t matter. Goalies are a very superstitious bunch.

    3. It makes it more interesting certainly, sort of gets boring if nearly all the playoff seeding is determined with 10 games still left in the schedule. More teams playing desperate, bottom teams looking to play spoiler, more last-second brilliance.

    4. Pyatt to Hamilton with Cammalleri back, Lapierre sits in favour of MAB for a 1-game experiment and see what we get on the PP.

    5. Regulation, they’ve been getting better at those lately and Ottawa is self-destructing.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  319. TomNickle says:

    Well if you’re a goalie than you know that he was too deep.  I’m not saying it wasn’t a good shot.  I’m saying Halak wasn’t out far enough and that’s the only reason that puck got by him.  I suppose every goalie’s point of view is different since my former junior A goaltender friend who I watched the game with thought it was a bad goal and agreed with me that Halak didn’t challenge enough.

  320. SLONCOLD says:

    lol i used to use white pads, it did shit for me lol so i went for more colorful ones.

    what helped fleury was the evolution of crosby and malkin

  321. mike g says:

    Before I prove you wrong, I want you all to know I love this team and both of it’s goaltenders. I don’t have a preference for one of them….

    But, seriously WTF are you saying. The shootout loss vs Toronto was in part thanks to Jaro. He didn’t make one save WHEN IT MATTERED, and crutial points were on the line. We all make fun of the Leafs and say they’re an AHL team. Well, Kessel hit the crossbar, Mitchell and Kulemin (FAR FROM GREAT NHL PLAYERS) scored oh Halak.

    3 shots, 0 saves.

    I still love him tho….

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  322. TomNickle says:

    Which goalie has been playing better since the Olympics?

  323. jimmy shaker says:

    Tommy my boy, I think you have it all wrong…….and yes if Price were beaten by kessel on that play, I would say great play by Kessel.  First, it was a shot from the top of the faceoff circle, nowhere even close to the boards or the point/blueline.  Kulemin made the pass through sergei and found Kessel, who had a little bit of a step on Hammer, hammer tried to get in the way but the shot got in between hammer’s stick and body.  It was a good solid snap shot that found the corner and was placed perfectly.  I think you might be wrong in your view of the whole play.  And for goalies, those are pretty difficult saves to make that are going against all your momentum as your moving laterally one way and then have to all of a sudden cut back against all that momentum to try and make a save. And to your last point, what are you talking about?  Take away the edmonton game, which Jaro battled and got the 2 points anyway, and he’s been solid.  His numbers are proof of that, but the only numbers that matter are the W and the 2 points and Jaro has done that all year, and for the last 7 starts specifically.  Finally, Kessel has been hot of late as well, he was brought in to TO to score and that’s what he does.  His line with bozak and kulemin have been hot the last 5 games, and that is why toronto is on there 5 game winning streak.  He has scored in all of those games and scored in the shootout vs brodeur the game before the habs.  So when a sniper is hot, look out!  And he made a great play on his goal, end of story.  So your points/comments don’t add up my friend, they are way off, and not giving credit where credit is due in my opinion.


  324. hab lifer says:

    habs will lose without them. ZERO OFFENCE.

  325. habs11s says:

    1) Chicago- Huet and Nemi are HUGE question marks in net and expectations are through the roof, especially in Chi-town where the fans literally pack the arena to watch the Hawks play

    2) I think he need to go back to the pads he wore when he broke into the league, maybe it will help him regain some confidence and maybe a little magic going back to the old pads

    3) It’s interesting to see it go down to the wire… especially in the West, DET is bringing it on- hard to believe they were the big red machine who destroyed the west not too long ago….

    4) pyatt and darche/laps (its a tough one for me to decide)

    5) 5-4 for the Habs tn, Cammi gets 2 goals in his return

    Btw… Coyotes have won 9 straight games, first in their division and are tied with Chicago for the lead in the West.. absolutely unreal


    “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

  326. SLONCOLD says:

    technicaly kessel mised the net lol cross bar isn’t a shot :-p

  327. jimmy shaker says:

    Wow, can’t and don’t want to respond to that logic!


  328. smiley4 says:

    My office is 100 yards away(King/York) and I live 10 minutes away(Queen/Beverley).

  329. christophor says:

    agreed. i might get backlash from this but i think fleury is in part a case of a team making a goalie. his good stats are team stats and his more goalie-centered stats aren’t so great

  330. TomNickle says:

    If you’ve been watching that logic is 100% truth.

  331. smiley4 says:

    Anybody else nervous about Atlanta sweeping Philly this weekend. I was hoping for a split. I would rather

    solidify a playoff spot first before moving up to 5th or 6th spot. Atlanta has a killer last 5 games of the schedule though-last 5 games are with Pitt/Wasj/NJ.

  332. jimmy shaker says:

    That’s shite……tonight would have been the perfect opportunity to get them into the lineup!  If the doctors gave them both the green light, what is JM doing.  He said he doesn’t like to break up the chemistry of a winning team, and we didn’t win on Saturday, so get them in there and see what they can do.  Very upset….but Jaro will get it done for us.  SO are we waiting till wed or thurs or sat.  Give us something JM


  333. Tobiass says:

    Oh, your definately in contention for this weeks “biggest douche” award. Keep it up bud!

  334. jimmy shaker says:

    Wrong again Tommy, wrong again!


  335. TomNickle says:

    Shaker, if I say the team is playing well through the winning streak where am I not giving credit.  Halak saw 30 shots twice in those 6 games and the Habs gave up under 6 scoring chances in all but Edmonton.  You don’t just take away a game because it doesn’t suit your opinion Shaker.  I could argue that Price is better because of the first year and a half he played in the league was unbelievable.  I don’t remove games from a player’s resume to make my point stronger or skew statistics.  Price has had one bad period since the Olympics, do you think the coaching staff doesn’t take it into consideration?

    It was a bad goal and Halak’s play hasn’t been that of confidence and he has been deep in his net.  

  336. Top Corner says:

    Good , let em rest , we just went 6-0-1 without them and there’s no need to rush them back vs. a team like the SenaBores…..Cammy will unleash the fury in due time.  Lets get 2pts. in reg. and watch them melt away. Go senz go…..home!

  337. SLONCOLD says:

    lol he can’t go back to the old velocity 2 pads he used to wear. he has to stick with his vaughn 7700 limited edition. the pad was made for him and he also has a contract with vaughn i believe.


  338. TomNickle says:

    How could Kessel or Kulemin made a backdoor play a banked shot from the top of the circle Slon?  Seriously, read what you’re saying to me.  If you’re making the case that Halak doesn’t want to get into the habit of challenging too much ok, but that’s a play where a Peewee goalie knows to challenge, am I right?

    Like I said so many times last week.  Halak’s in because the team is better in front of him than they are Price.

  339. Top Corner says:

    Its Sppppezza (In the lisp of Murray) using a new account again…..Jason get back to practice foo !

  340. habsguy says:

    HUH……I guess you can’t stay up late enough to watch them !!!!

  341. hab lifer says:

    but you win that one.

  342. SLONCOLD says:

    i wasn’t speakin about the kessel goal in my previous post but more as in a general play/positioning.

    The problem with the kessel goal was not so much about how deep he was but that he overlside to the left opening up the corner. But i mean i wouldn’t call it a horrible goal.

  343. SLONCOLD says:

    lol u just like to stir shiat up

  344. pic1983 says:

    I think more experience and maturity also helped fleury a little bit.

  345. TomNickle says:

    Too many people for this debate which is why I’m summing up what I have to say on this in one post and then I’m done with this debate.

    First of all, I’m on the fence about which goalie to keep.  I felt bad when Halak didn’t get a second crack at Phili two years ago and I feel bad for Price now that the team is playing better in front of Halak and he can’t sniff the net.  But this is my opinion.

    1. Price has been better since the Olympics.  That doesn’t mean he should be starting, but he should be seeing action.  Two teams have to go the rest of the way with only 2 or 3 losses and we would have to tank to miss the playoffs.  Where’s the harm in getting Price into the net?  What happens if Halak gets hurt or plays poorly in the playoffs and Price is rusty because he hasn’t seen game action in a month?

    2. Halak is lacking confidence and has been since the Olympics.  Halak carried this team on his back for 3 months and put them in position to make a run.  But, since the Olympics his play has not been good, it’s been mediocre.  I don’t want to hear about a winning streak as a reason for an argument to that statement because the winning streak is not a measure of how a goalie is playing, it’s a measure of team success.  The team has only allowed 30 shots twice in the 6 game winning streak and my argument is that Halak has been deep in his net and letting out BAD rebounds, and a lot of them.  And for those of you saying that I’m the only one saying that, several posters on here have agreed, as has Murray Wilson.  

    3. Regardless of how the season ends, I want the team to keep both goaltenders because right now there’s no indication of which one will be better.  Price wore down after his long stretch of success.  Who’s to say Halak won’t?  He’s never had this much of a workload before and it appears to be taking a toll on him.  I hope that I’m wrong about that but it appears to be happening.  

    Neither Price or Halak are great right now.  Neither are bad right now.  They are both good goalies with a team that plays differently depending on which one is in net.  

  346. SeriousFan09 says:

    Are you Kessel’s, or Halak’s agent? There are more than 3 players in the world who can make that shot, I’ve seen enough games this season to know that. Massive exaggeration, Tom below lists a few other guys who can do it and there’s a few more he didn’t even mention as well.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  347. Say Ash says:

    If they lose because the PP went 0 for 6 you will think differently. And “no need to rush them back”? What? Everyone’s gotten a false sense of security following our streak. All it’s gotten us is four points out of 9th!

  348. jimmy shaker says:

    Yes, let’s please keep this as your last post on the topic…….because you are wayyyyyy off in your anaylsis and opinion.



  349. TomNickle says:

    Good Morning Jack!  How was your weekend?

    1- Chicago-they’ve been preaching Cup or bust to their fans with a huge marketing campaign.  They’re going to lose important players soon too.  Washington needs more than a better goalie to compete for the Cup.

    2- I think Price has been fine since the Olympics.  Boston and San Jose games were the best games either goaltender have played for us all year.

    3- Nothing more exciting and heartbreaking than seeing a playoff spot decided by a shootout on the last day of the season.

    4- Bergeron shouldn’t be in the lineup and Pyatt should go back to Hamilton when Cammy’s ready for a return.

    5- I think the road team usually comes out on top in this rivalry if I’m not mistaken.  The more desperate team will win.  I’ll say that.

  350. mike g says:


    And that’s the always honest and truthful opinion of TOM…

    which explains why I most often agree with him. Good stuff buddy.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  351. TomNickle says:

    Good argument.  Well thought out, planned and communicated!

  352. jimmy shaker says:

    So for Halak to play with confidence, he needs to face 40+ shots night in and night out, with 10-15 quality scoring chances against him and come out with the win letting in only 1 goal for him to have confidence?  Why can’t he just be solid when called upon (which he has been).  The team has been playing better in both ends of the ice, which has made his job that much easier. I’m happy he doesn’t have to stand on his head and steal wins right now.  Shouldn’t you feel the same?  He and the team are doing there jobs and doing them well right now.  I’m just shaking my head at how you think he’s not playing confidentally now or since the break?  Sure Price has played well since the break too, but with the ducks game and Jaro coming in to get that win, that was enough for JM to give the ball to Jaro, and rightly deserved.  Price is still going to get his shot, and I think wed vs the sabres will be his shot to show that he can still contribute and help this team win.


  353. SeriousFan09 says:

    Good points, not that most people will like reading this but a good analysis. Halak’s workload does seem to be catching up to him, I have talked about it for months, people told me to shut up and he’ll be fine but they didn’t consider that maybe, his lack of playing lots of games might hurt him. Not playing over 40 games in the last 5 years has not left him well prepared to handle his workload this year.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  354. Clay4bc says:

    But then again, tom, why bother to think out and plan an argument to someone like you, who loves Price to the point of absurdity, and has his mind already made up, not to be swayed by even the most rational of arguments. What you wrote is laughable to the point of absurdity, really.
    But for the sake of argument, here is a well thought out one…
    – Halak has gone 6-0-1 in his last 7 games – seems very confident and not tired to me…

    – Halak has an overall record of 23 W, 10 L 2 OTL this season. Over slightly less than the course of a full season, his record projects to 46 W, 20 L, and 4 OTL in just 70 games…factor in the 82 game season, and he is on pace to take the team over the 100 point mark. To sum up – he is having a great season.

    – Price, on the other hand, has a record of 13-19-4. In case you haven’t noticed, that’s not a great season, Tom – nor is it even a good one. Make all of the excuses and silly rationalizations you wish, but it is clear who the better goalie is on this team, and his name is Jaroslav Halak.

    Good enough, Tom? Of course not, because you don’t want to hear real arguments, but only that which suits your already made up mind.

    Don’t argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.

  355. jimmy shaker says:

    As I pointed out on our back and forth below…..your opinions and rants just don’t add up!  I’ll just end with that, because we obviously don’t see eye to eye.  I think your a little bit biased to Price which is fine.  I’m a little bit more biased to Jaro myself.  I think Jaro will be solid tonight vs the sens and am excited to see price wed, to see how he responds.  I’ll be here after the game tonight to discuss Jaro’s play and the goals that he allows with 100% honesty.  Let’s rant after the game, hopefully a win will help us see eye to eye a little bit more.


  356. TomNickle says:

    Well I’m not ranting, if I were ranting I’d be commenting on foolish fans who see Halak’s play as Vezina quality.  I did that Saturday!

    What doesn’t add up in my argument?  Where am I inconsistent or incoherent in what I’m saying Shaker?  I’m not biased towards Price to be honest.  I don’t think Montreal ever should’ve drafted a goalie as high as him because of 

    1. The immediate pressure.

    2. Quebec is a goaltender factory and our scouting department should have an edge on the rest of the league when it comes to finding talent at that position late in drafts.

  357. ed lopaz says:

    tom – i like the way you do business – first you get the argument going by asking if anyone saw the kessel goal “scored from the boards” as you put it – then you get the last word.

    well – like boone told me last week – not quite the end of the story

    price has been better since the olympics? – well obviously not in the eyes of the coach or any of the experts following the team.

    there are a lot of people in this town tom who know their hockey – you being one of them – but NONE of the experts has said publicly (on rds, tsn, am 990, gazette, habs inside out) that Price has been playing better since the olympics – you are ENTIRELY ALONE in that opinion.

    many have said that halk was tired after the olympics – I know for a fact that this was true – because I have some inside info on this. but lacking confidence?

    your interpretation that halak lacks “confidence” is totally a subjective opinion – its baseless – your opinion as fan is not quite the way to judge a professional goalie’s confidence.

    halak’s play during the winning streak was not great- but it was good enough to win

    there are guys in the booth, guys with video machines who work for the habs, who are reviewing and studying EVERY SAVE and EVERY GOAL

    there is a reason why Halak has been chosen to play during this critical stretch of games – and like last year – he has been in the net when the canadiens have won down the stretch.

    no question on number 3 – the team WILL keep both goalies – unless one of them refuse to play on a 2 goalie team.

    Grant Fuhr won a ton of games with a great edmonton team in the 80’s. his numbers were average at best. he was a winner – and that’s what goalies are paid to do – they are paid to win.


  358. TomNickle says:

    Ed.  I’m not looking for the last word.  I could care less because I’m firm on my opinion as you are.  And I’m not the only one saying this.  Murray Wilson, you know, a player.  Not an overpaid, over-hyped agenda riddled media type, agrees with that analysis.  It’s fine that we disagree Ed.  Go ahead and post your rebuttal and I won’t.  Just know that Halak being in the net doesn’t mean he’s been better.  If Price were pulled as a result of his own play it would’ve happened mid period.  Not at the intermission.  And Halak IS in the net because of the team’s play in front of him, not his own.

  359. TheIndian says:

    I agree Halak has been playing too many games and Price needs to be in game shape but he is still winning..and his GAA average in last 6 game has been close to 2, which in my opinion is very good…People keep pointing out that Price has played better than Halak since Olympics, I am sorry but 2 games and one period is not enough to come to come to that conclusion.  I am not going to defend and take sides of any goalies but before this loss against Laffs, only loss post olympics came when Price was in nets….it is not about which goalie is better at this point, it is about which goalie is able to get us a W but yes I will be glad to see Price in nets in Buffalo or against Florida on Thursday.

  360. jimmy shaker says:

    The confidence issue?  How can you say he’s not playing confidently?  Like I posted below…..Jaro has been pretty much solid all year long.  During the olympics I thought he was solid and post olympics he’s done the same.  The team as a whole has played better defensively in front of Jaro, limiting chances and shots, but also the forwards and team as a whole have been playing primarily in the attacking zone during the post olympic streak.  The team and jaro’s best defense is to keep the puck 180ft in the opposite direction.  I’m happy we’ve finally tightened up defensively and that Jaro doesn’t have to make 40+ saves a night and come up with miraculous game saving saves.  So, again the whole confidence issue just doesn’t add up for me!  By no means do I think Jaro will be in line for the vezina, but he has been one of if not our top player all year long, am I  right?


  361. TomNickle says:

    Confident goalies not name Lundqvist don’t stay deep in their net.  Other than that, I would say Andrei Markov is our team MVP hands down.  More than 10 games over .500 with him in the lineup.  Where were we with him out?

  362. Clay4bc says:

    We re also more than 10 games over .500 with Halak in the nets, so your point is either mute, or says the same about Halak. Which is it?

    Don’t argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.

  363. Top Corner says:

    I shouldnt have said no NEED to rush them back….If they can play , get em in , iam one the biggest Cammy supporters out there and its killing me as a fan not seeing him out there :( I know just as much as anyone that a streak doesnt mean were golden till playoffs…..but “all its gotten us is 4 pts out of 9th”  WHAT!?!?!?!?Would you rather they  had gone 2-5-0…4 pts out of 9th is better than 6 pts behind 8th (DAMMIT…ive gone cross eyed).  The fact is they DID win 6 straight , we love it , and Cammy/MAB coming back tonight is NOT DIRE ! And as reported NOT HAPPENING. GO HABS GO 

    As for the PP , it flat out stunk Saturday night….but somethings been going right without some key players cause there still 2nd in the NHL and 1st on the road on the PP.  Can’t and will not apologize if iam happy ,a bit of an optimist,  and trying to think of the good things about a great team , just how i roll     I need to save my anger for laffs fans, bRuins fans , philly fans, and tonight…Sensz fans…..suk it spezza!!!

  364. ed lopaz says:

    I don’t think I ever said that Halak was better than price.

    I appreciate your point that the team play has been the difference.

    murray wilson makes his living as a member of media today – same as any of the other media clowns out there.

    here’s where we disagree, however, you send out shots about halak’s play – his rebound control, his confidence, etc etc and yet the team keeps going back to him game after game why?

    why do the habs keep playing halak? that’s my question to you Tom.

    with that – I have to leave and go try and make a living – salut – enjoy the game!!

  365. TomNickle says:

    Clay, go find that rock you crawled out from.  What rationalizing did I do.  You attack my point of view on a broad scale without singling out one of my points and rebutting them.  You can’t project a players stats in half of a season and say they would double.  If that’s the case Andrei Kostitsyn would project for 90 goals and 220 points after 20 games each season.  Anyone can look at stats and make an argument.  Yeah, any idiot can do that.  People that know the game can analyze the play of the team and it’s players objectively without making up fantasy numbers to support their arguments.  Do you realize that amongst your spewing of 23 wins you didn’t make a single point that was a counter argument to anything I said.  I never once said Halak wasn’t having a good season, I said his play since the Olympics has been mediocre.  I hope you aren’t grading papers as a teach because it appears that reading isn’t one of your strong suits. 

    And the only reason I’m going in the personal direction with you is because you found it necessary to attack me when all you had to do was say you disagree because you sure as hell didn’t make a counter point.

  366. TomNickle says:

    The team is playing better in front of him than they are in front of Price Ed.  That’s the point and I’ve made it several times.

  367. TomNickle says:

    With the majority of his starts coming with Markov in the lineup, but that’s not the point.

    If you could interpret what you read you would’ve seen that my point is that the Habs play better with Halak in net.  


  368. jimmy shaker says:

    So let’s just focus on the last 7 games for arguement sakes about Jaro.  In the 6 games he’s won and the 1 that he lost in a shootout, you’re saying that he’s been stuck deep in his net therefore having no confidence and that most of the goals that he’s given up over that 7 game period were his fault from being stuck deep in his net?  Is that basically your arguement?


  369. Clay4bc says:

    The last refuge of the mentally inferior – resulting to personal insults. I rebutted your points very well, my mentally deficient friend – perhaps you need someone more intelligent than you to explain the finer points…but as I wrote in my post, you have already made your mind up, and refuse to listen to reason. Insult all you want, but the mere fact that you have to resort to those base tactics signify louder than any voice possibly could that you have already lost the argument.

    Just suck it up and admit you were wrong already – because no matter what you think or feel, Halak is the better goalie by far.


    Don’t argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.

  370. TomNickle says:

    I can’t remember the circumstance behind every goal during the streak so no I won’t say that Shaker.  I’m saying that since the Olympics, he’s been playing deep in his net and his rebound control has been off.  That to me, indicates a lack of confidence.

    However, he is our starting goalie because of the way in which the team plays in front of him.  Aside from Saturday night, they’d been playing very good hockey in front of him which has hidden what’s going on with him.  I hope it changes because it’s clear the team is only interested in playing good hockey when he’s in net.

  371. sholi2000.com says:

    You lost me there.

    They call me Shane

  372. SLONCOLD says:

    nah those things didn’t help :-p

  373. TomNickle says:

    Insults are the refuge of the mentally inferior.  So when you said “why bother to think out and plan an argument with someone like you” and saying that what I wrote was laughable and then calling me short sighted, those weren’t insults?  I’m confused Clay.  No wait, I got it.

    When insulting me you either forgot your “the last refuge of the mentally inferior-resulting to personal insults“.  I’m fairly certain that you meant to say resorting but I’m sure a teacher of your quality wouldn’t make a mistake like that.  You did nothing but put words in my mouth and misinterpret my entire post.  I said that Halak’s play has been mediocre since the OLYMPICS and you decided that I meant the entire season.  You attributed a team record over the course of a winning streak to a goalie’s confidence, how deep in his net he is and how tired he feels when the truth of the matter is that an average goalie would’ve produced the same result.  Do you know how I know that Clay?  Because Halak was average over the course of the winning streak, not the season, the winning streak.

    So just to recap, you’re a hypocrite who insults people instead of making an argument, your argument isn’t applicable to the point that you’re trying to argue and you pass the buck on responsibility in saying that I started with personal insults when your first post was nothing but an attack instead of insightful argument.  

  374. Clay4bc says:

    Again, and please read slowly…

    Halak is 6-0-1 since the olympics with a GAA of about 2.  That is not mediocre. That is stellar. And proof that he has been playing well since the Olympics, I might add. Those are not the numbers of a goalie who “lacks confidence”, as you so charmingly suggest. Applicable enough for you?

    So, just to recap, you are a blow-hard/moron who can’t see the forest for the trees. Nice chatting with you!


    Don’t argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.

  375. SLONCOLD says:

    1. since price is playing better than halak, i doubt he’ll be rusty.

    2. murray wilson is a price fanboy lol

    3. very subjective. playing poorly isn’t a sign of you being tired. sometimes u just have an off period.


    My question to you is if you were to keep the 2 goalies what would you pay each one of them.

  376. TomNickle says:

    If you believe that you can measure a goaltender’s worth in wins.  I suppose you would think that Chris Osgood is one of the best goaltenders of all time.

    You are a hypocrite who wouldn’t know hockey if it bit him in his self righteous ass.  I apologize to those here who are offended by this and would like everyone to get along.  I’m sorry for engaging this troll when he came looking for a fight.  I promise I won’t give this child the time of day again.

  377. TomNickle says:

    Fair enough on #3 but #1 and #2 are obvious sarcasm.  Funny nonetheless.

    I wouldn’t pay elite starter money to either one because neither one has proven that they can handle a full season with success.

    One year $3 million deals to both.

  378. Clay4bc says:

    Yes Tom – everyone who holds an opinion (however factually based it may be) other than yourself is a “troll”. The one you should be apologizing to is yourself, because it is you whom you have embarrased by your innane comments and your childish petulance when your opinion is contradicted.


    Don’t argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.

  379. TomNickle says:

    I’ve had respectful conversation with everyone else Clay.  What does that say about you?  You attacked me, I responded.  You called me mentally inferior for the very thing you did in inciting conversation with me.  I’m willing to discuss things with people who are respectful, you aren’t.  You are a childish, hypocrite who shouldn’t be teaching children because of your lack of tolerance for others opinions and your inability to understand a persons point while attacking the person and not treating them with any respect.

    They call that little man syndrome.


  380. Clay4bc says:

    Right, that’s exactly what you have. Stop belittling yourself with the attacks. I rebutted your point very well. You were defeated in a battle of evidence. You are now bitter. Go cry if you want, but I have been reading your crap here for too long not to call you out on it. But I am truly sorry that Price is not better than Halak, if that makes you feel better.


    Don’t argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.

  381. SaskieHabFan says:

    Argument for #1 & 2:

    Halak games played after Olympics 6 3/4, 178 shots, 164 saved with a .92134 SV Percentage (We won’t include wins because in your opinion it is not a measure of success for goaltenders…..)

    Price games played after Olympics 2 1/4, 75 shots, 68 saved with a .9066 SV Percentage (Pulled from the Anaheim game)

    By comparison, Ryan miller after the Olympics 9 games played, 253 shots, 233 saved with a .92095 SV Percentage.

    I don’t know where you are getting your “mediocre” play for Halak from or, his lack of confidence….. And for point number 3…. Miller played 9 games, Halak 7 (lets just give him that Anaheim game) it seems Halak has been handling the workload so far…..

    Numbers don’t lie. Looking forward to a reply because these are solid stats not an “in your opinion, bad rebounds and “deep in the net analysis”



  382. SLONCOLD says:

    it’s nice to joke around during the heavily heated debates:-p

    6 million on goaltending. that’s gonna be a tough one. obviously some salary will have to be moved especially if they keep plekz. It kinda just sucks paying someone 3M to sit for half the year though. it iwll be very interesting.

    now lets say a team says alright we’ll make an offer of 3.9M to one of them which means we would get a 1st and a 3rd round draft pick, would u match the contract and to what term would u match. I believe u have to match the entire offer salary and years. The other interesting thing is when they say we get a 1st rounder is there any consideration into the draft postion of the player gettign the offer sheet? because i know i wouldn’t mind giving up a 27th overall pick for a guy like price but if i were teh habs it would suck to replace him with a  late 1st round pick.

  383. TomNickle says:

    What’s with the Miller comparison?

    I’ve never said that Halak’s numbers aren’t good since the break.  His play is worse than it was prior to the Olympics in my opinion and has only been mediocre.  Further to that I’ve been saying that the team is winning because of the 5 on 5 play of the guys up front.  I don’t think you’ll find an argument from anyone that Price would have won or done an equal job in the 6 game winning streak.  The play of the team certainly would’ve been different though. 

    My point about Halak’s play is that I’m seeing a goaltender playing deep in his net and not challenging shooters like he was prior to the Olympics.  That’s all.  I’m not saying bad numbers, bad stats, I’m not even seeing bad play.  Just a goalie sitting very deep in his net, letting out many more rebounds than normal.  This whole thing took off from that point.

    Price’s numbers may not be better but in my opinion he’s playing better hockey.  He had more scoring chances against him in the games against Boston and San Jose than Halak’s had in 7 games.

  384. jimmy shaker says:

    I agree that the team plays better in front of Halak, but I feel because of Halak’s pretty much consistant performances and confidence in his ability to ultimately get the job done (winning): it has rubbed off to the team playing better and having confidence in him as well.  Whenever Price is in the net, the bounces haven’t really gone his way which hurts price and the team in front of him……but in the end Price has to somehow come up with a performance that the guys can rally around.  Sure in front of eachother and the media the boys say price is fine and we play the same way in front of both goalies and we have all the confidence in the world in both tenders, but the product on the ice shows otherwise to any truly die hard hab fan.  What I’m saying is that Price somehow has to fight past that karma or label of untimely or soft goals and really put some Bruin/Sabre type (beginning of the year performances) back to back to back to get the guys confidence in him back.  He has to lead by his performance and allow the boys not to squeeze their sticks extra hard or be afraid to pinch or take a chance because they don’t want Carey to get scored on.  The only way Carey can do this is to do it on his own.  The boys may leave Carey out to dry from time to time, but those are the chances that he needs to stand on his head…ala Jaro when he was winning games with 45+save perfromances early in the year.  Carey got the chance vs the sharks where he played solid but came up with a loss……JM went to him again vs the ducks, where he let in 3 goals.  Yes the defense let him down and should have done better in front of him, but those are the exact times I’m talking about that Carey has to stand up strong and give the vibe of “bring it on, ain’t nothing going to get by me”  The boys have the confidence in Jaro and he is backing it up with the wins and timely saves.  Sure I would like Jaro to play like Miller and challenge every shooter all the time, but that’s not his game, can he come out more, yes….and I think he will do that tonight as this is as big a game as ever.  But your confidence thing still seems a little bit just opinion based and not actual fact.  He probably is overflowing with confidence given JM going to him time and time again.  JM giving me the ball, and the team rattling off 13 of 14 points in my starts would be enough for me if I was Jaro.


  385. TomNickle says:

    I don’t think anyone will offer sheet them.  In two years PG is scheduled to have more than $25 million in cap space.  Payback is a you know what.  That said, if somebody offer sheets one of them I think you match it and trade one of them.  If we didn’t have Desjardins I wouldn’t do that though.

  386. TomNickle says:

    That’s fair but I think if the San Jose game didn’t give them confidence in him, nothing will.  In my opinion that was the best either goalie had played all year.

  387. TomNickle says:

    You are a very immature little boy with reality issues.

    Bed time for you.

  388. jimmy shaker says:

    Hard to argue with all the 45+ save stealing game wins that Jaro has had this year.  But I believe that could have been Carey’s best game, but still that bad bounce got him and came up empty.  It did spark a bit of confidence and that was why he got the next start vs the ducks, and it didn’t go well.  Carey needs performance after performance after performance after performance to get his season and the way the team plays in front of him turned around.  1 game will not do it.  A big statement would be a shutout which carey has yet to get this year.  That would help out huge with the teams and his confidence overall.  Hopefully wednesday we can see this.


  389. TomNickle says:

    If he gets the start 😉

  390. jimmy shaker says:

    I’m 100% sure that JM will give Carey the start!…I think Carey getting the start, his new white equipment, Cammy and MAB hopefully finally back and the chance to either keep the sabres on the horizon or to conceed the northeast division title will be all the motivating factors Carey will need for a big performance vs the sabres and miller.  Plus I hate lindy ruff and rick jeanneret.


  391. wotever says:

    SENATOR Jacques Demers?

    First of all that automatically makes him a fan of a certain Kanata team, and second of all, I’d rather he was doing his taxpayer-funded job.


  392. SaskieHabFan says:

    Miller (and Bryzgalov) is the best goalie in the NHL right now, I used his numbers after the Olympics as a comparison to Halak’s to see how the Slovak compares, and if what you say is true about him playing deep in his net or Price playing better hockey then how are his numbers better? Luck? If him sitting deep in the net was true wouldn’t he have a worse GAA, SV %? 

    Price had more scoring chances in him in the Boston/SJ game than Halak in 7 games?…….. You might want to research that.

    My point is how can you say as a fan (not a goaltender coach), that Halak isn’t playing good since his team plays better with him in net (13/14 points) and his numbers are outstanding and comparable to top goaltenders in the league?


  393. petefleet says:

    I’m not sure what your watching but it isn’t the same Habs I’m watching.  The Halak I’ve seen is anything but lacking confidence.  As for Price, how on earth can you say he’s been better since the olympic break, he hasn’t played!!!  And better than what? 

    You’re post is long but ridiculous.

    Go Habs Go

  394. Bugs says:

    No, no, no, that’s not what we mean by Artiste.

    It’s like the diva you sometimes can’t get out of the dressing room. The prima donna who wants dragonfruit jam with his rye bagel and not raspberry.

    If you give’m the jam, he’ll give you your masterpiece.

    But again, he’s not in Mtl. We shouldn’t relate how he plays in a passionless market where he’s not venerated in any way, to how he was with us.

    I think that’s very unfair, imo.

    Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

    L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson’s Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Habsbros Flannel-weaving Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/

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