TSN’s take

• Scott Cullen’s comprehensive off-season assessment of the Canadiens

• Mathias Brunet weighs in on who stays, who goes

And this harsh comment, on the Hockey News web site, about the departure of BGL:

I think its funny you take the toughest guy in the league and put him in
a Canadiens Jersey and he turns into a sissy just like the rest of the
team! Looks like Andrei Kostitsyn will be the keeping the rivals in line
next season!

Maybe this is the video Bob Gainey watched:

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276 Comments

  1. Chorske says:

    Haha, but what else is there to talk about?

  2. HardHabits says:

    The Habs as a whole were a non-factor against the Flyers. Take away Halak and the Habs are a non-factor in the regular season.

  3. Dethroner says:

    subban isnt going anywhere. he grew up his whole life as a habs fan. it was his biggest dream to get drafted by his favorite team. he’ll be in the running for rookie of the year next year, and did you watch any of his interviews over the playoffs? did you see his maturity level? he’ll be the captain of this team in 5 years.

  4. Just A Guy says:

    We prefer the term “puck management”. For example all the things we managed to accomplish this year without it. Hmm hat may sound more harsh then clever. Oh well.

  5. coachdoug says:

    Lol…Great observation at the opening of your post!

    Sums up last year…The Ying and the Yang…Bi-Polar team most of the year…Love em or leave em…

  6. likehoy says:

    i appreciate everyone’s clairvoyance suggestions to our summer but i don’t know how people can want to blow up this team after it made the ECFand how can anyone want to keep this team given our mediocre 8th place finish in the regular season

    i fully agree with pierre gauthier saying that you can’t blow up the team every year and make major changes. so this means PG is going to work with what he’s got for the most part with a few changes, of which, i cannot precdict

    unfortunately none of us are PG so none of us have access to the other 29 GMs in the league or the 700 players affiliated with the NHL to know where the marbles fall. unless we read eklund. eklund tells all.

  7. Robert L says:

    That’s a hard bargain after a 39 pt year, but yeah, if you’re the agent, that is how you begin the process. It might not be where it ends up.

  8. HardHabits says:

    That only drives home point that the Habs do not play a puck possession game but a puck relinquishing game.

  9. Dethroner says:

    I cant find the article, but kabanov is recently quoted as saying he wasnt going back to russia, period. he said “nhl, ahl, whl, it doesnt matter where i play, i am not going back to russia.” or, well, not word for word, but the quote went exactly along hose lines. after he went to russia to play for the u-18s, the russian coach called him american bubble gum and that was published in the press. he was really embarassed, made to look like a wussy too-good-for-mother-russia type person. he said leaving for russia for the tourney was the “worst mistake of (his) whole life”.

  10. Robert L says:

    I think Gainey knew full well how distracted Plekanec became by those rumours and the one amount paid (2.75) was a show of faith in him. It is likely Pleks that chose the one year term though, seeing as he’s a UFA presently. When TP had his down year, no one ever attributes it to Kovalev going AWOL. He still managed to score 20.

  11. Dethroner says:

    what about this as a scenario?

     

    resign moore

    resign lapierre

    resign pyatt(2-way)

    resign pouliot

    resign darche(2-way)

    resign desharnais(2-way)

    resign trotter(2-way)

     

    sign lombardi

    sign ellis

     

    trade halaks rights and the kostits for penner and a 2nd round pick.

     

    gomez(7.4) gionta(5) cammalerri(6)

    lombardi(2.5) penner(4.25) pouliot(1)

    moore(1.5) pacioretty(800k) pyatt(800k)

    lapierre(1) moen(1.5) white(600k)

     

    engqvist/darche/desharnais

     

     

    markov(5.75) subban(875k)

    gorges(1.3) spacek(3.8)

    gill(2.25) hammerlk(5.5)

    obyrne(800k)

     

    ellis(1.5)

    price(1.5)

     

    55.7….this leaves some space if some of the above signings need a bit more cash and to leave over around 2 mil for signings in case of injury or for a trade deadline pickup.

    then, if we’re not gonna make the playoffs, and unable to sign markov to an extension for the same amount or a bit less, then trade him for a 1st round pick and a prospect to a serious contender. markov has value now, but just as much at the deadline, and we need him this year to mentor subban. at least for this full year. look at what he did for gorges development.

  12. 24 Cups says:

    10-4 on that one.

  13. Chorske says:

    OMG, I am trying to find something I don’t disagree with.

    Plus, there’s this logical conundrum: if the Habs are so bad at drafting, how is tanking going to improve our lot?

  14. avatar_58 says:

    Yeah but I *still* think he played through injury. Of all our drafted players Plek is most likely to continue to do better. In my opinion anyway.

  15. SmartDog says:

    Beer.

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    Not signing or trading Pleks = yet another missed opportunity.

  16. Chuck says:

    People also tend to forget the 43 blocked-shot performance that the D posted in front of Halak, or the overall number of shots that they blocked in front of him the entire playoffs. It was indeed NOT all about Halak.

    BTW, folks also forget that there was another Montreal golaie who posted a 53-save performance this season…

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    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  17. Don Carnage says:

    Rick Curren? ( SP )  Says that things are moving along well and he is confident that they can aggree on terms for Plecs and the Habs .

     

    This is from today … news heard over radio

  18. andrewberkshire says:

    Halak was the biggest contributer to the Habs making the playoffs, just edging Plekanec, the biggest contributer in the 1st series, second biggest in the 2nd series, and a non factor against the Flyers. 

  19. ed lopaz says:

    ok – let me put it differently.

    if I was plekanec’s agent, after the 39 point season, I would have recommended that he ask for 3 years term

    at about 3.5 per; similar to what AK, big but saggy Tits got.

    you’re right, of course, everything on this site is speculation.

  20. coachdoug says:

    Robert…you are a smart hockey guy…and you know Gainey was offering up Plek for trades and it leaked…I think Plek would have taken the money…Bob was hedging bets and thought Plek was done…hind sight is always 20/20 though

    Plek is one of the few players Habs have brought up through their system…I think the trade rumor links compounded his confidence loss last year…All players are a crap shoot season to season with a few expensive exceptions!

  21. puck face says:

    thank you and if you consider the wash series , would they have one without the staggering amount of shots that were blocked by gill and co. game seven take away moore’s goal we go to overtime and i think wash would have pulled it off.

  22. coachdoug says:

    Plek was never supposed to be the “answer”…Habs shelled out 7.3 mil for the “answer”…Truth be told Habs never got a number one center they have needed for years…

    I think Plek did not “dissapear” during the playoffs…his performance did decrease…like the rest of the team…And if he is “soft” what about the rest of the team?…AK46 is jelly…I love Gill but at his size he should be knocking guys into next year…Moen is tough but seems to not want to fight anymore…

    If you think Czech players weighing 180lbs are gonna be your tough guys…I think not…to quote the Rock “Know your role…” Plek has a role on the Habs going forward…but we probably can’t keep him now

  23. Robert L says:

    It’s takes two parties to sign a contract of any type – a willing GM and a player in agreement. Since we never know which side wants the one year term, or any other matter, it’s hard to speculate anything in terms of right and wrong. One thing is certain, most often it is the player that dictates the term.

  24. SeriousFan09 says:

    Without the heroic defence played in front of Jaro, it wouldn’t have happened either, nor the clutch play of the team’s new core through the playoffs. Stop undervaluing the team just because you dream that a two-year tank will deliver a Toews and a Doughty rather than a Bouwmeester and Spezza.

    Not every year puts a franchise player in your hands at the 2nd or 3rd overall pick, or even the 1st at times. Two average or weak draft years are two years LOST and a big red flag waving to free agents the team’s falling into an abyss.

    Team just needs to select better in the 1st round, if Andre Savard had handled the 2000 draft better, we’d have Volchenkov and Kronwall as part of our defensive core! If he was handling the 2003 draft well oops, could’ve put Getzlaf on the roster, 2004 just conservatively add say Wolski and we’ve got a serious upgrade. Flyers didn’t need to tank for strength, Van Riesmdyk was a nobody in the playoffs anyway. DET didn’t need to do it as well.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  25. HardHabits says:

    I’ll agree the team put in the effort and it is a team game but my POV is that Halak was more than just the cornerstone of the Habs success he was hands down neccessary. Without him all those blocked shots are meaningless. Put it this way, if Halak was playing for the Flyers against the Hawks the Flyers would have won the Cup.

    The thing I am saying is that the Habs rely on goaltending to the point that their style of hockey is boring. They are no longer the Flying Frenchmen but the Trapping Tabernackers! I am sick ot it already. I miss firewagon hockey and I only get to see it from the opposition.

  26. andrewberkshire says:

    Agreed completely.

  27. coachdoug says:

    Nail on the head…We could have a had a bargain with Plek and waited for a big fish to trade…Glen Sather is a crazy genius…he must have some mojo powers to dump the ridiculous contracts he creates…Should have come with a “Sucker” T-Shirt and matching baseball cap…

  28. andrewberkshire says:

    We made the playoffs by one point, so saying “without Halak, no playoffs” is meaningless. Without Plekanec; no playoffs. Without Cammalleri; no playoffs. Without Gomez; no playoffs. Without Gionta; no playoffs. Without Gorges; no playoffs. Without Markov for 45 games; no playoffs. Without Hamrlik or Spacek or Moore or Metropolit or anyone on the roster; no playoffs.

    You’re getting tired of my disingenuous comments? Everything you say is a crock of crap. I thought your posts might be readable for awhile when you swore to not bring up tanking for a year, but that lasted all of a week. The Habs suck so bad that they eliminated the two best teams in the Eastern conference AS A TEAM.

  29. sholi2000.com says:

     

    Quinton Howden,

    draft Canadian!!!

    They Call Me Shane

  30. ed lopaz says:

    agree.

    if gainey would have had the faith in plekanec’s 69 point season instead of the 39 point season, he could

    have signed plekanec for 3 years and about 3.5 million per. that would have been outstanding “vision”, and

    I believe plekanec would have signed it coming off that miserable 39 points season.

    also, with plekanec in the fold for 3 years, there is no reason for gainey to trade for gomez and his 7.3 mil.

    good teams sign their “core” players while they are young and cheap, AND while the player is STILL LOOKING

    FOR FINANCIAL SECURITY.

     

     

  31. andrewberkshire says:

    RC, by saying the playoff run WASN’T 100% Halak, I’m not taking anything away from him. However the inane notion that he did it all himself does a complete disservice to the rest of the team. As impressive as the 53 save victory was in game 6 against the Caps, the next game where the team blocked as many shots as Halak saved (41 and 41 I believe) was just as impressive. Cammalleri scored the most goals in a playoff year for a Canadien since Cournoyer. Gill and Gorges were masterful defensively. Moore was clutch as can be with 2 goals in game 7s. Plekanec, Gomez, Moore, Moen, Pyatt and Gionta were unbelievable on the PK. Subban was massive in stepping up in Markov’s absence. Lapierre scored at clutch times late in both series to stave off elimination. It was a team effort, not just Halak.

  32. coachdoug says:

    Joey…That was the Scott Gomez of many years ago on the New Jersey Devils…I got to hang out with John Tortorella last week and he said candidly that Gomez was a good player just not at 7 mill…at 4 mill yes…that’s why the Rangers happily dealt his behemoth contract away…

    Habs would not have been in the post season if not for Plek…our offense was anemic…Gomez got the best guys for most of the season Plek got the revolving door of wingers…

    We are overpaying Gomez by 2 million…maybe 3 million…that my friend may be the difference between the Cup or not…Salary Cap is no joke…

    No one is making Plek a God…but he is one of the few players the Habs scouted, drafted, and developed beyond his predicted potential (third line center)…that is how you win Cups…not through free agency…

    Also Gomez has about 10-11 pro seasons vs 4 for Plek…looks like Plek is on track to match him possibly…

  33. Kooch7800 says:

    He stole the washington series but I don’t think he stole the Pens series.  Gill, Cammy, Jorges, Gionta, Moore all had a great series.  Don’t get me wrong he played well but was not the sole reason we beat the Pens. It was team defense.

    Look at the difference in the Philly series.  Team D was bad and so was the Goals against

  34. GrimJim says:

    FYI – we traded our 2011 second round pick for Moore. We still have our 2010 second rounder.

  35. Kooch7800 says:

    Man, I can’t believe a year later we are talking about Plek’s getting possibly 5 to 6 million a season one season after he SUCKED! It is crazy how much difference a year makes.  If he leaves (which I am sure he will) I really feel sorry for the team that will shell out that much for such a soft player.  He was absolutely insignificant in the playoffs.  If you want that kind of cash you have to perform.

    We will miss his offence but he is not the answer for the habs going further.  He dissapears in big games and that is not what you want.  He should go play for the Sharks

  36. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I disagree about Kabanov.

    If DET lands him (and DET develops players well, the Habs could learn from them)…imagine the goals he will pot receiving feeds from Datsyuk. I would not give up on that kid. It is a pick with a HIGH risk yes, but the rewards could be incredible. I still say take Kirill if he is available (unless there is a BIG, MEAN center with some skill).

  37. Chorske says:

    Now THIS I agree with.

  38. RiverviewCanadien says:

    We may not agree on everything HH, but we certainly do on the Halak debate. People tend to forget that 53 save victory he had in the playoffs.

    Jaro was BRILLIANT this season at every level he played, Regular Season, Olympics, Playoffs. Does he have things to work on, yup, but he is only 25 yrs old and getting into his prime. Sick.

  39. 24 Cups says:

    GJ – I am dead set against drafting any more Russians after all the crap we have gone through the past few years.  However, it’s pretty damn difficult to pass on a top 10 prospect when you are selecting 27th.  Mike Boone’s cocktail glass weighs more than Burmistrov but this guy has a real great skill set.  The fact he plays in the OHL means something, as well. You would also have to see what other guys were left just before your turn comes up. 

    We traded our 2nd round pick for Moore.  Kabanov reminds me of  Macaulay Culkin so it might be best for some other team to take the chance.  

  40. ManApart says:

    Who cares about their career numbers. You want Tanguay, he has good career numbers? it’s what they have done here and will do that matters. By last season, Pleks had quite a bit better year than Gomez, at less than half the price. That says it all and then some. In the playoffs where Pleks got all the heat, Gomez was only marginally better on offence (with significantly more PP time) and not nearly as good on defense. it was pretty much a wash overall. So Pleks is about the same player as Gomez, yet has and will make much less money. Just one example of why experts have pointed to Canadiens mismanagement over the years, for their lack of success.

  41. HardHabits says:

    I am getting tired of people (ANDREW B. you’re guilty of this too) saying that the Habs playoff run wasn’t 100% Halak. Get real people. Since Steve Penny the Habs have been relying on goaltending to win. This has got change and fast. Another reason why I promote tanking as ONE of the steps required to build a winner. Without which the Habs will never have another Guy Lafluer. Heck they wont even get another Stephane Richer if they don’t get their drafting heads out their a$$es.

  42. Chorske says:

    Hey, don’t get me wrong, we were snakebit. And as I say above, the team surprised everyone by killing giants (while clearing a path to the Finals for what I continue to believe is a pretty so-so Flyers team), especially with Markov gone. But that’s the problem- remove Markov, remove one Top Three guy (because I really don’t think we have a Top Six), and our lack of depth becomes apparent. By the Flyers series, the Habs were still valiant but running on adrenalin fumes- and it showed

    BTW- don’t count me among the 100% Halak types 😉 . I’m more likely to credit dudes like Gill and Gorges, who were nothing short of heroic. I still think the biggest leap forward was psychological- the guys realized they can win as long as everyone is committed and on the same page. The big challenge now is making that attitude hold over 82+ games– and adding some depth so we’re not running on fumes by April every year.

  43. ManApart says:

    Putting the word “brilliant” and  ‘Gainey” in the same sentence is the funniest thing I ever saw.

  44. RiverviewCanadien says:

    If Kabanov is around when they pick, I would take him. IMO he is one of the best HIGH risk drafts. Attitude wise, he could be a mess, but I know when he first came here to Moncton, he was awesome to watch. Such skill and vision. Yes he needs to put on weight, but 6″3, right-hand shot, sick hands, fast, just gain 20+ lbs…and teach him to play defensively, give him minutes but remind him who the boss is from the start, and you probably have a winning combination.

  45. ABHabsfan says:

    I completely agree HH. Most Russians seem to want to go directly to the NHL and not pay their dues and learn a little hockey in the A. If a team wants send a guy to the farm he bolts and says he won’t play. Sound familiar? All teams should be very wary of these prospects IMO, especially with all the money the KHL seems to have to throw around. Every time the price of oil goes up, they offer more money to NHL stars already under contract.

  46. ed lopaz says:

    I don’t think we should sign any player that considers the KHL as a realistic alternative.

    its bad business when there are many other hockey players who will not use the KHL as leverage in their

    negotiations.

  47. ed lopaz says:

    in the KHL I hope.

  48. Exit716 says:

    35 points?

     

  49. HardHabits says:

    You’re right. It was 110% Halak.

    How can you even consider to take yourself seriously if you don’t admit that this team went as far as they did because of Halak. Without him Cammy doesn’t have 13 goals. I am getting sick of all of your disingenious comments and propositions.

    Get real!!

    Put it this way. No Halak on the team no playoffs, regardless of the last  game against Toronto, which everyone seems to blame on Halak’s wordly play. The problem with the Habs since Steve Penny is that they REQUIRE a goaltender to save their collectvie bacon. This got exacerbated with Patrick Roy and this tendancy to build crappy teams around a super-human goaltender only got more enabling from BG’s selection of Carey Price.

    I can’t stand this rope-a-dope-no-hope hockey anymore.

    THE HABS SUCK AND WILL CONTINUE TO SUCK UNTIL THEY START DRAFTING OFFENSIVE STARS.

  50. Chorske says:

    YEAH! EUROS are the KISS OF DEATH! just look at Detroit, Western juggernaut and perennial contender

    pfff. unbelievable

  51. ed lopaz says:

    respectfully disagree Joey.

    if gainey “believed” in plekanec, last summer was THE TIME TO SIGN HIM LONG TERM.

    in my opinion, if you “believe” in a player, why not sign him after he has a down season.

    the player is likely to sign for far less money, and plekanec would have been happy to take the security of a

    3 or 4 year term.

    in fact, one could debate that by trading for gomez + signing plekanec to 1 year only, gainey was showing

    that he did NOT BELIEVE in plekanec.

    by bringing in Gomez at 7.3 mil, gainey KNEW that he would not have the money to sign plekanec at 5 or 6

    million per.

    that’s the way i see it, any way.

  52. Qais says:

    Ak46 is on his last year of contract. See him pot 35. MARK MY WORDS!

    Halakinator.

  53. avatar_58 says:

    I need you address to come beat you down. Subban goes NOWHERE

  54. HardHabits says:

    Unless they are of the Ovechkin or Malkin category, Russians should be ONLY picked in the late rounds.

    Stanley Cup teams are 75-85% North American. That’s where the Habs should be picking.

    Too many Euros means early tee times.

  55. pic1983 says:

    He’s playing here now so I dont see why he is such a risk.  Filatov went back to russia with columbus’ blessing, but to be honest, his case is columbus’ fault for drafting a highly offensive player to play for an extremely, although now fired, defensive coach. 

  56. GrimJim says:

    Off topic but here’s a hypothetical for the commentariat:

    TSN reports that top 10 prospect Alex Burmistrov is losing ground with GMs because they think he’s a risk to bolt back to Russia. So if he is available at the 27th pick, should the Habs take a chance? If he drops to the second round is he worth the risk then?

    As Boone says, discuss…

  57. joeybarrie says:

    Tomas Plekanec……278 career points in the NHL

    Scott Gomez………..732 career points in the NHL

    Gomez is only 3 years older than Pleks.

    Gomez has a Stanley Cup.

    Gomez has an average of 73 points a season, Pleks has 55…

    Let’s not make Pleks out to be a GOD just yet. He has had 2 good seasons with us. We have also seen what he can do when he disappears. If anyone pays him 5.5 million then its even more of an overaid salary than Gomez’…

    Last season… Pleks 39 and minus 9….Gomez 58 minus 2… Pleks even played more games…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  58. crabvader says:

    McIlrath kicked Petrovic’s ass.

  59. crabvader says:

    100% agreed.

  60. GrimJim says:

    I agree with your last statement up to a point. During the regular season it should be okay for a young player to learn from his mistakes but during the conference final, when we are having trouble scoring and therefore  need even tighter d, is a time you need to minimize unnecessary risks. And before you bring you MAB, yes he was a defensive liability but in compensation he had an offensive potential that OB didn’t have, and if your game plan is to minimize unnecessary risks you go with either veterans who have learned what is a poor risk or youth with a elevated talent level that far more greatly compensates for the potential mistakes. Personally I don’t think you will see O’Byrne continue in the doghouse next season unless he pulls an SKost.

  61. joeybarrie says:

    What are you talking about? Bob was BRILLIANT with his Pleks deal… You should get your facts straight. First off Pleks was making 1.4 and 1.8 million for two season after he had a season of 47 points. His first season he looked great putting in 69 points, however he had a MISERABLE season and only hit 39 pointsand was a minus 9. Bob signed him to a 2.75 million one year contract so he could show what he could do. NO ONE ELSE WOULD HAVE GIVEN ALMOST 3 MILLION FOR LESS THAN 40 POINTS…

    If Pleks signs with us, it will be mostly because this franchise believed in him when he was down…

    Pleks had an average of 59 points in two seasons, how much exactly should we have given him. By the way there were ALOT of people here saying Bob was an idiot to have given him anything and he was yet another wasted player. Now he is the number 1 free agent this year, and BOB IS STILL AN IDIOT???? Lets get friken real.

    AK had a better second season than Pleks did and he was only 23-24… Its too bad he is lazy and he has already gotten the biggest contract he will ever see…

     

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  62. GrimJim says:

    Martin played O’Byrne regularly alongside Markov during the regular season. It was during the playoffs when Martin decided that one mistake by anyone under age 25 not named PK was intolerable. I’m guessing that come the start of the year O’Byrne will be back to being a regular

  63. Exit716 says:

    Andrei Kostistyn had one good season and netted a three year deal from Gainey.

    Plekanec wasn’t afforded the same respect and now he’ll walk. Awesome job Bob.

  64. Just A Guy says:

    I heard that Hamrlik, of all people, has a NTC according to the first website that would support my claims http://www.nhlscap.com/no_trade.htm aparently he has a list of 6 teams he would accept a trade to.

  65. Mikey_39 says:

    If MArtin doesn’t give Obyrne a chance he’s an idiot.  Our biggest problem is that we don’t have enough of our own drafted players on the team.  Because we’re not developping them properly.  That’s why we go and overpay for UFA and that’s why we are constantly a mediocre team.  The youth is key to winning.  Obyrne has sooo much potential but he needs to be allowed to go out there make mistakes and learn without fearing that it could be his last shift

  66. TorontoHabsFan says:

    The only part I was even remotely serious about was the return of Koivu. I just have this…feeling that it’s not as crazy as it sounds. I also think that Plekanec would be insane not to test the FA market when he’s pretty much the only 1st line C out there (not named Marleau). Also, while I realize this is heretical to state – I’m really not all that convinced that Plekanec has turned that corner in his career and is a legitimate and consistent producer (his 2nd half was far less impressive than his 1st). Basically he’s likely to get 1st line money and I’m not sure it would be justified.

    I could handle Gomez, Koivu, Moore, Lapierre as our Centres :)

  67. 24 Cups says:

    M – I figured Subban would be a good fit with Spacek so that Spacke cold play his natural side and Subban would get the benefit of being with a veteran player.  I have serious doubts as to whether or not Martin will give O’Byrne top four minutes, especially alongside our best Dman with all the time he is on the ice.  We also still need to bring in a guy with some size who can clear the front of the net and kick ass once in awhile. 

    I would let Hamrlik go for nothing if there are any takers.  It was always a stretch to give him a four year deal.  He has done a decent job for us over the years but he’s in decline and we need his cap space.

  68. Chuck says:

    “Backward-mapping” is a must if you’re to be a decent GM. Gainey used that strategy to some success. Essentially, your “Plan X” becomes your top priority, because it’s the minimum threshold in which you’d consider your moves a success. Once you guarantee those, then you can build backwards with your Plan D, Plan C, etc.

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  69. Just A Guy says:

    That was my point, though be it an inferred one.850k+10% is 935k so the 1 mill offer sheet would be an example of how the Habs would need to offer him more then that, though nothing too outrageous as I don’t think he has the negotiating power Tom demonstrated that Halak would have. 1.5 mil seems to fit the bill, maybe a bit more I guess if the team is serious about keepiing him long term which I think they should be. I suppose the problem is, god my head is spinning again, if a team like San Jose offers Price a reasonable contract, so they are in essence making a play for a high 1st round pick and trading it for their almost garaunteed low end 1st round pick.

  70. Just A Guy says:

    I would agree with you except on the long term deal for either goalie, but my head is begining to spin, so I hope you don’t mind if I just leave it at that. I just finished looking at UFA goalies that could maybe take the load off of Price if Halak gets traded and thought about looking at Ellis’, Biron’s, etc. stats and gave up.

    So what do you think about Andrei Kostitsyn? Just kidding! Thanks for the discussion. I am suprised nobody else chimed in on a debate that seems to be so heated.

  71. 24 Cups says:

    THF – I’m not sure if you were joking but I seriously doubt the Pens are going to trade one of the top four forwards in the league for Subban and MaxPac.  Right now, it’s not even certain if Pacioretty is ever going to be a top six forward.

    The Chicago deal makes no sense as they would land up with three goalies and not improve their cap situation in any way.  Besides, AK46 couldn’t tie up Sharp’s skates.

    The Habs can never bring Koivu back.  Gainey closed that door and Gauthier can’t ever open it again.

    EDIT: I thought you were joking around but I wasn’t sure!

  72. Mikey_39 says:

    As far as I’m concerned Subban is an untouchable.  I don’t remember the last time we had one of our own drafted players be so excitting.  Our d is looking pretty good now that we have

    Markov-Obyrne

    Subban-Hammer

    Gorges-Gill

    Spacek-Weber

  73. TorontoHabsFan says:

    While my post most assuredly was in jest, it certainly would not be a short-term fix – Malkin is signed for the next 5 years and Sharp is signed for the next two.

     

    But really, who wouldn’t like this team?

    Cammalleri-Malkin-Pouliot

    Sharp-Gomez-Gionta

    Moen-Koivu-Dupuis

    Darche-Lapierre-Moore

     

    Markov-O’B

    Hjarmallson-Spacek

    Gill-Gorges

     

    Price

    Desjardins

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    But again I was absolutely being silly :)

  74. Mikey_39 says:

    I wouldn’t mind bringing over Selanne+Koivu.  Selanne said he’d only go back to the ducks if they weren’t going to be in reconstruction mode, because he wants to win.  Montreal made a solid playoff run. We were missing a few key players to challenge for the cup.  I think we could get both for 4.5-5 mil combined


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