Tremblay and Roy haven’t spoken since trade to Colorado

Mario Tremblay isn’t expecting a call from Patrick Roy about a possible assistant-coaching job with the Colorado Avalanche.

“I don’t think so,” Tremblay said with a big laugh on Friday, a day after Roy was named head coach and vice-president of hockey operations for the Avalanche. “I don’t think so.”

Tremblay, as Montreal hockey fans will recall, was head coach of the Canadiens on Dec. 2, 1995, when he left Roy in net for nine goals against before finally pulling him in an 11-1 blowout loss to the Detroit Red Wings. Roy was jeered by the Forum fans at one point following a routine save and when the goaltender eventually left the ice, he blew past Tremblay and told team president Ronald Corey, sitting in his familiar seat behind the bench, that he had played his last game in Montreal.

The rest, as they say, is history and the Canadiens haven’t won a Stanley Cup since, while Roy went on to win two with Colorado after leading Montreal to Cups in 1986 and 1993.

Tremblay and Roy — who spent the last eight years as head coach and part-owner of the junior Quebec Remparts — have not spoken since the future Hall of Famer was traded by former general manager Réjean Houle to Colorado along with Mike Keane in exchange for Andrei Kovalenko, Martin Rucinsky and Jocelyn Thibault.

“We haven’t had a chance to meet, but everything is okay on my side,” Tremblay said. “It’s been a long time and I wish him good luck.

“I’m happy for him,” Tremblay added. “After seven, eight years with the Quebec Remparts, this is the job that he wants to do and he went to Colorado because he was also named VP of hockey operations. So that’s a big challenge for him, but there’s no doubt that Patrick, with his character and his passion … I think he’s going to do a good job in Colorado.

“The other thing I want to say is that he’s going to have to be well surrounded because he cannot do that job by himself. Come on … it’s the NHL, it’s not a junior team now.”

One person who could possibly get a call from Roy is Guy Carbonneau, the last Canadiens captain to hoist the Stanley Cup and a former head coach in Montreal.

“I have no idea,” Carbonneau said Friday afternoon about a possible call from Roy. “I haven’t talked to him … it’s up to him. He’s got control of who he wants to have around him. He’s going to have his reasons like I had when I was a coach here. I knew what I wanted around me and that’s what I got. I don’t know what he wants.”

(Photo by Dave Sidaway/The Gazette)

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Former Habs coaches, teammates speak about Roy, by Stu Cowan

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Former Hab Danis gets tornado scare in Oklahoma, by Ben Raby

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765 Comments

  1. HABZZZ says:

    Mario has gone as far as he can and will never be a Head Coach in the NHL again. He wanted to send a message to Patrick and it blew up in his face. As a fan since the seventies I have watched a lot of the great teams we had and the number one thing they all had was Passion . They hated to lose and Roy was the reason we won the last two cups. So Mario let his ego get in the way of what was best for the team. I see that same player in PK Subban and if they blow it twice they may never get back to the cup again.

  2. frontenac1 says:

    Size and Grit. Saw a movie like that once. There was a Midget and a…..nah,better not.

  3. Bill says:

    @wjc total apology, that last post was for Hab Fan 17, very sorry. Phone issues.

  4. Bill says:

    @wjc: I am tired of your Louis Leblanc comments. There was no one obviously better to take. If he becomes a “third line player at best”, tell me exactly what is wrong with that based on your analysis of the NHL draft?

    For most mid-first-rounders, that is considered a good career.

  5. 5Footer says:

    There seems to be a common theme with the remaining playoff teams…size and grit !!!
    Let’s see what MB and friends decide to do this summer.

  6. Bill says:

    @ebk: actually I guess the Habs have done a good job of staying out of Dodge since 2005, ha. Good move.

  7. Sportfan says:

    NHL 14 cover voting is BS they said Tavares won then it Brodeur vs Bobrovski.

    On a funnier note the Dallas Star Bucks
    http://news.sportslogos.net/2013/05/24/dallas-stars-new-logos-leaked/

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  8. frontenac1 says:

    @burly. No time in the clink? Well done amigo! Same with me last year. Went down to Watertown NY last year with a few Lads for golf. We were asked to leave town and not come back however. Saludos!

  9. HabinBurlington says:

    Here is a better highlight from Rob Ford’s long legacy in Toronto as Mayor.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj8haZzvaE8

  10. HabinBurlington says:

    When is a player considered a bust, or perhaps when is a first round pick considered a bust?

    Kyle Chipchura was drafted 19th overall by the Habs in 2004. Only 15 of the 30 players drafted in the first round have played more games than Chipchura.

    Only 7 players from round 2, 4 from round 3, 4 from round 4, 3 from 5th round, 2 from the 6th, 3 from the 7th, 1 from 8th and 3 from 9th.

    So out of the 291 players drafted, only 42 have played more games. I am not trying to say he met his expectations but sometimes the term of a player being considered a bust is thrown a little too loosely.

    • Cal says:

      He made it to the NHL. Chipchura wasn’t a bust. His achilles heel tendon has held him back or he would have been a great 3rd line center for the Habs.
      Critics love saying that so and so stank, but they made it to the NHL. Even if it’s for a cup of coffee, which I am sure most of us would trade a left nut for that opportunity.

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …throw in My right one too

      • mark-ID says:

        Speaking of achilles tendon injuries, Karlsson wasn’t at all the same player as he was pre-injury. At times he was Ottawa’s worst defenceman. One has to wonder if he will struggle to regain form after that type of injury….much like Chipchura.

        “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

      • Chris says:

        We can’t know what he would have or would not have been were it not for the Achilles injury. Skating was always the knock on Chipchura, even before the injury.

        Teemu Selanne is another guy who severed his Achilles tendon. It takes a while to recover (about a year), which helps explain Karlsson’s rust this year. Chipchura NEVER recovered, or recovered almost all the way to a player that simply wasn’t who people thought he would be.

        Chipchura was drafted as high as he was because of his defensive game and his leadership. But he was projected to be a project even when he was drafted, and he never panned out the way you hope a 1st round pick would.

        For me, Chipchura was a bust as was most of his draft. 2004 was a crappy draft, only beaten in suckitude in recent memory by the 2005 draft. 2005 was saved by Crosby and Kopitar, while 2004 had two very good players at the top (Ovechkin and Malkin) and a bunch of more ordinary players.

    • Habfan17 says:

      LeBlanc is starting to remind me of Chipchura

      Habfan17

      • Cal says:

        I hope you get a high ankle sprain and find out how long it takes to come back from it. Habilis, too. ffs.

        • Habfan10912 says:

          I don’t wish ill health to anyone Cal but in all fairness LeBlanc was not off to a good start prior to the ankle sprain. The good news is he did appear to be playing much better towards the end of the Bulldog season. Jury is still out.

          • Cal says:

            I get tired of posters who have no empathy towards injuries. Leblanc is a 3rd line checking type. He’s not Crosby or Malkin.
            When he plays a lot better this fall the comments will stop.

          • commandant says:

            Leblanc had a horrible season… injuries, bad luck, and poor play all played a factor.

            Sometimes a guy has a bad season. heck pretty much the entire habs team (with 3-4 exceptions) were bad in 2011-12.

            Hopefully Leblanc bounces back, in fact i think he will.

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        • Habfan17 says:

          I have played with broken bones in my foot, that was not what I was getting at. They were both character guys and it is taking LeBlanc a while, sprain notwithstanding. It is taking him a while to make it, just like Chipchura. It is starting to look like he will be a 3rd line player at best!

          Habfan17

  11. Habitant in Surrey says:

    Mike Helka: Habs appoint Churla, Director Amateur Scouting ?

    …what about Timmons ?

    http://starsblog.dallasnews.com/2013/05/scout-shane-churla-moves-from-stars-to-montreal-canadiens.html/

  12. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Shane Churla ?

  13. Just throwing this out there? How about Moen – White – Ian Schultz as a 4th line next season? Is Schultzeee ready to be called up for next season? He could provide some toughness and help Prust in fighting department.

    Galchenyuk – Plekanec – Gionta

    Pacioretty – Desharnais – Bourque

    Prust – Eller – Gallagher

    • Cal says:

      Schultz’s skating had him in the ECHL, a long way from the NHL. Habs need a heavyweight to back up White and Prust. We all know Moen isn’t it. Frankly, I’d try to get Byfuglien without emptying the Dman pipeline coming in from Hamilton.

      http://calshabsongparodies.weebly.com

      • ebk says:

        little confused, by heavyweight, you mean fighter?

        The only way Byfuglien would be considered a heavyweight is when he stepped on the scale

    • Whatever says:

      Schultz is an RFA that will be looking for another team this coming year, or another type of employment.

    • The Juice says:

      Torres please…

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      “To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high!”

    • RobertAlanFord says:

      There’s a lot of guys who can beef up the 3rd and 4th lines on July 5th. Bergevin went after Torres at the deadline so you know he’s going in that direction. Clarkson from NJ, Torres is also UFA, Bickell from CHI, there’s a bunch of them and that’s without most teams exercising their two buyout options this year as well. Trust me, size is coming and Schultz is out of their league…..literally.

      Schultz, unfortunately, is a dud and probably won’t have his contract renewed by the Canadiens or Bulldogs. He didn’t even make the Bulldogs last year and instead had stints in the ECHL with Utah, Wheeling and San Fran.

      @BBRhockey
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  14. Lafleurguy says:

    It was right after the World Junior Ice Hockey Championships that Seth Jones was placed in the no.1 ranking, and Drouin moved up. No shame for an 18 year old to look ordinary against some opposition who are 19, but Mackinnon was not a standout.

    The all-stars were John Gibson, G; Jacob Trouba, D; Jake McCabe, D;
    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, F; Filip Forsberg, F; and John Gaudreau, F.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  15. CHicoHab says:

    Anyone know when Pitt/Bos starts? Thanks

  16. SmartDog says:

    Hey guys! I just had a peak at the HIO story idea list.

    Here’s some of it…
    1. Story about the anniversary of… something.
    2. Story about some guy who used to be a Hab doing… something.
    3. Story about a guy saying… something about a former hab.
    4. Story about HIO guys agreeing about Habs direction.
    5. Story about HIO guys disagreeing about Habs direction.
    6. Feel-good story about Marc Bergevin and how tough his management team is.
    7. Story about Bettman/Don Cherry/Shanahan or someone else everyone hates.
    8. Story about the Bruins just to stir up sh$t.

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    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  17. Bill says:

    ebk, without getting into the Price thing, that is indeed one ugly list. They should scout the WHL better or stay the hell out of Dodge.

    • ebk says:

      @Bill it is isn’t it. Three lugs from the Seattle Thunderbirds who couldn’t skate a lick and somehow they picked them.

      Saw Matt Higgins play quite a bit and I almost puked when the Habs picked him. Wouldn’t have wanted him on a ball hockey team.

  18. Habfan17 says:

    DD needs to be moved to left wing now to see if he can play there. Put him on the 2nd line with Eller and Bourque at right wing. Galchenyuk needs to play centre to improve his facoff skills and learn. Keep him at 3rd line centre with Prust and Gallagher.
    Have Patches play with Pleks and Gionta., although I would rather they trade Gionta, that probably won’t happen. Pleks did okay with Gionta on his wing, and the smurfs are now spread out on 3 lines. Galchenyuk and Gallagher get one more year to develop without facing the other team’s top lines.

    Habfan17

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      DD needs to be moved off the team or to Hamilton so we have Plekanec-Eller-Galchekyuk as our top three centermen. No room for him on the wing as we’ve already got a couple smaller players there.

      • Habfan17 says:

        I agree, but after signing DD, I think we are stuck with him at least for one more season. Next best thing, move him to the wing now, unless Bergevin can package him for a real 2nd line left wing.

        Habfan17

      • Maritime Ron says:

        If he ever got through waivers, I don’t believe Mr. Molson would be happy paying DD $3.5M salary to play in Hamilton. He would earn the same salary in Hamilton as Montreal.

        I may be wrong and if I am, please let me know, but the new 2013 CBA says even if DD was sent down, his Cap Hit would be what it is less $900,000 – in other words $2.6M playing in Hamilton. That change was made to stop the ‘burying’

        • mark-ID says:

          This is true, the cap hit would stay on teams salary cap. Unless he was a distraction to the team, there would be no point to send him to Hamilton.

          “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

  19. ebk says:

    Habs 1st Round WHL picks since 1974. Ouch!
    2005 Carey Price
    2004 Kyle Chipchura
    1996 Matt Higgins
    1995 Terry Ryan
    1992 David Wilkie
    1991 Brent Bilodeau
    1990 Turner Stevenson
    1989 Lindsey Vallis
    1986 Mark Pederson
    1985 Jose Charbonneau
    1983 Alfie Turcotte
    1980 Doug Wickenheiser
    1975 Robin Sadler
    1974 Cam Connor

  20. wjc says:

    Houle has a wide-eyed boyishness about him that makes him the frequent target of GOOD NATURED abuse. Robinson looks up.

    “Hey Reggie,” he shouts, “that was a helluva play ya made last night.”

    Houle goes silent; we begin to laugh.

    “Yup,” Robinson continues slowly drawing out each word, ” not often you see a guy on a breakaway put it in the crowd,” There are screams of laughter.

    Lapointe snaps down his newspaper. ” Don’t let it bother ya, Reggie,” he says sympathetically, “No harm done.” Surprised, we all look up, “The goalie just woulda stopped ya anyway, “he says, and we all laugh harder.

    This is a quote from the book by Ken Dryden….the game.

    Please note the phrase ” GOOD NATURED ABUSE”….reference, with emphasis on ‘good natured’.

    Later…..Houle and Lambert make plans for lunch at a pub across the street, They ask the rest of us to go, and today many join them.

    Excerpts from the Dryden book “the game.

    A poster tried to say that Dryden was attacking Houle. However it was all in good spirit of a winning dressing room. Trying to say houle was hated and ridiculed.

    wjc

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Nice post wjc. I read “The Game” three times, twice for inspiration. Dryden didn’t throw anyone under the bus. Dryden intended a very public life through various careers, and had nothing to gain from putting down people like Sean Avery did for example. Almost certainly, Dryden would have pre-screened his material with his former teammates. The harshest put-down of someone in his book was when he recounted how Guy Lapointe (Pointu) went hyper on the team bus trying to get everyone to look at the guy picking his nose in the car beside.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • bwoar says:

      Your posts about _The Game_ have been spot on, wjc.

      “thoroughbred”

  21. Todays - Topic says:

    Gotta pick up tough Guys that can score like the Boston Bruins. One reason they’re going to the 3rd round of the playoffs and don’t be surprise if they win it all.

  22. HabinBurlington says:

    13 Years ago today, we lost the greatest player our franchise ever had.

    R.I.P. Rocket.

    • The Juice says:

      Amen!

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      “To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high!”

  23. Un Canadien errant says:

    Sean McIndoe’s (@DownGoesBrown) Grab Bag is always full of goodies.

    eg: Tie Domi anagrams into Me Idiot

    http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/63107/nhl-grab-bag-the-many-faces-of-bryan-murray

  24. frontenac1 says:

    Viva Gomez!Viva Tequila! Viva La Revolucion!

  25. HabinBurlington says:

    For those worried about the Habs size and girt per se, I have to believe that hiring a former player like Shane Churla who was a very physical gritty forward shows that there are people within the Habs organization who will recognize the need for physicality.

    Scott Mellanby is also in the inner circle with MB, he too was a very gritty hard nosed player. I don’t believe that Churla will scout only grit, but he will be able to help recognize players who provide the mentality to play hockey in the tough areas.

  26. Mattyleg says:

    Habs have just announced Shane Churla Chief Amateur Scout.

    With his 2,301 career PIMs, sounds like the Habs just got bigger and meaner.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  27. Old Bald Bird says:

    I think I read some questions about this earlier. Maybe this will help.

    Bob McKenzie ‏: If I’m not mistaken, compliance buyout window opens 48 hours after Cup final is over and closes before July 5 free agency begins.

  28. Un Canadien errant says:

    Adrian Dater on who the Avalanche should pick with their #1 overall selection.

    http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2013/05/26/avalanche-brass-job-just-got-a-lot-tougher-trying-to-decide-on-a-no-1-nhl-pick/13702/

    ***SPOILER ALERT: Like us, he’s not sure.***

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    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  29. von says:

    Ugh, Mario Tremblay.

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    “Obviously it would be great, but they don’t really hang conference titles in this rink. They raise Stanley Cup banners.” – Carey Price

    • The Juice says:

      There went the franchise…

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      “To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high!”

  30. Timo says:

    Seeing that picture of Mario Trembley is like looking at the 6-1 score from the last game – just as painful.

  31. frontenac1 says:

    Pick up Gillies and Brennan. They are a bit crazy but Mike could make them “better people”. Or,they might hurt him. Ya never know.

    • Timo says:

      There is nothing wrong with dressing them up only for games against Bruins, Senators, Leafs and Penguins.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        Agreed. If the Habs can’t find a 10 minute a game tough guy, there’s really no issue dressing a goon who plays five mins a game for 30 or 40 regular season games on the 4th line.

        Unless you’re one of those guys who don’t mind not having an enforcer and watching the Habs have their lunch fed to them when 6 or 7 regular season games get out of control.

  32. Habitoban says:

    In case this link hasn’t been posted. Pearls from Don Cherry on Rob Ford and on the state of the Toronto media.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHzCoUZG2Js

  33. Timo says:

    @SteverenO – what could have been if Eller got as much power play time as DD from the beginning.

  34. Un Canadien errant says:

    Katie Baker agrees with me (of course she does, she’s a smart girl) that Brad Richards shouldn’t get bought out this summer, the Rangers should wait until 2014 to make that call.

    She also references George Costanza’s tenure in the Yankees’ front office when discussing Colorado GM’s diminishing job description.

    Great stuff.

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9308901/the-new-york-rangers-brad-richards-john-tortorella-round-2-nhl-playoffs/

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    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Timo says:

      Is she cute?

    • Cal says:

      The Richards signing was a clusterf— right from the beginning. Brad never merited anywhere close to the amount of signing bonus or term. I knew it was the “stupidest signing since Redden and Gomez” for Sather.
      Sather and Torts should both be canned.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Torts is hinting that he predicted combining Marian Gaborik and Brad Richards wouldn’t work.

        Anyway, Richards’s playmaking ability would make him the perfect fit alongside winger Marian Gaborik, the logic went, though the reality was not quite so straightforward. “It didn’t look good at all,” Rangers coach John Tortorella later reflected about the experiment. “It was so well-chronicled: ‘When Brad Richards gets here, him and Gabby are going to play …’ I wasn’t sure. I’ve seen it so many times; it looks great on paper, and usually it doesn’t work.”

        I remember an exhaustive piece on Glen Sather, how he’d railed against teams raiding his Oilers with huge free agent offers, and how when he got the Rangers and suddenly had money to spend, he went and did the exact same thing, giving nonsensical contract to Chris Drury and Bobby Holik and others too painful to mention. Anyway, he defended himself, saying he preferred working through the draft, but implied that the New York market and the Dolan family demands stars, that there isn’t the patience to develop your own. Anyway, I wonder if John Tortorella is doing the same thing, distancing himself from the situation, saying it’s not his fault.

    • ebk says:

      if Richards get’s bought out, he’d have it made. Considering the money people think a player like Clarkson is going to get, Richards will get a good pay day if he’s available.

    • The Juice says:

      If Richards gets bought out, Sather’s gotta go…

      Ditto for Bryz and Holmgren…

      How many $100 million mistakes are these guys allowed to make…sheesh

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  35. Kooch7800 says:

    For the first pick in the draft I think I would actually pick Jonathan Drouin. I know it sounds odd but this kid see’s the ice so well and is such a gifted play maker as well as a shooter

    McKinnon is a sniper.

    I know most won’t agree. All of the top 5 players this year are going to be keepers

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      Yep, don’t think you can go wrong with any of them. I think it really depends on which team is picking. The Avs need D more than forwards, so think Jones is pretty much a lock to go first.

      • Kooch7800 says:

        I agree. Jones will log a lot of minutes for them in a couple of years and I think he will be really effective D man. He didn’t have a bad memorial cup but I thought he was really good in the world jr tourney.

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  36. commandant says:

    Another Power Forward Prospect at #46, with Hudson Fasching of the USNTDP

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/05/27/hudson-fasching-2013-nhl-draft-player-profile-46/

    Go Habs Go!
    Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.
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    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Always appreciate these commandant.

      About this guy, you’ve certainly piqued my interest, a big scoring winger that compares somewhat to Andrew Ladd? Sign him up.

  37. Mick says:

    4 years with ” Little David”
    Can Bergevin do any worse?

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      How about by taking on three with Gomer?

    • commandant says:

      3.5 million is still a cheap cap number for a guy who provides 2nd/3rd line scoring in the 45-55 point range. Look around the league at what other UFA centres have got in recent years. Grabovski, Connolly, Leino, plus what other forwards like Cole, Laich, etc… are getting.

      DD is a fill in, a stop gap til Galchenyuk is ready to play centre, at which point DD becomes a LW or is traded.

      We’ve kept the asset in house instead of letting it walk on the UFA market with 0 return. (after next season).

      Go Habs Go!
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      • ebk says:

        you will never convince the crowd that thinks DD sucks that he belongs in the league. I’ll give you credit for trying.

      • Habfan17 says:

        DD needs to be moved to left wing now to see if he can play there. Put him on the 2nd line with Eller and Bourque at right wing. Galchenyuk needs to play centre to improve his facoff skills and learn. Keep him at 3rd line centre with Prust and Gallagher.
        Have Patches play with Pleks and Gionta., although I would rather they trade Gionta, that probably won’t happen. Pleks did okay with Gionta on his wing, and the smurfs are now spread out on 3 lines. Galchenyuk and Gallagher get one more year to develop without facing the other team’s top lines.

        Habfan17

      • The Juice says:

        I’m with you Commander.

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        “To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high!”

  38. Chris says:

    We’ve seen crazy lines in the CHL in the past. Often, one of the guys is the straw and the other guys are the benefactors.

    This year, it was the Frk-MacKinnon-Drouin trio.

    Jonathan Drouin – 49 GP, 41 G, 105 PTS, 32 PIM
    Martin Frk – 56 GP, 35 G, 84 PTS, 84 PIM
    Nathan MacKinnon – 44 GP, 32 G, 75 PTS, 45 PIM

    Look back at London’s dominant 2007 team (who were still not good enough to even make the Memorial Cup, due to the Plymouth Whalers):

    Patrick Kane – 58 GP, 62 G, 145 PTS, 52 PIM
    Sergei Kostitsyn – 59 GP, 40 G, 131 PTS, 76 PIM
    Sam Gagner – 53 GP, 35 G, 118 PTS, 36 PIM

    Or London’s 2005 Memorial Cup winners, possibly the best junior team of the past 20 years (at least back to the early 1990’s Kamloops Blazers of Darcy Tucker, Jarome Iginla, etc.):

    Corey Perry – 60 GP, 47 G, 130 PTS, 117 PIM
    Dylan Hunter – 67 GP, 31 G, 104 PTS, 64 PIM
    Rob Schremp 62 GP, 41 G, 90 PTS, 54 PIM

    From that 2005 team, Hunter was never expected to do much and Schremp was an NHL bust. In 2007, everybody knew that Kane was going to make it, but Gagner and Kostitsyn haven’t been quite the stars that their junior numbers or performance would have suggested. Good players, but not great players.

    I think most people are writing off Frk from this year’s Halifax trio, but only time will tell who, if any, of these guys become great NHL players. What we can all agree on is that that had to go down as one of the better CHL lines in recent memory, and they were a joy to watch.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I think Sam Gagner will actually continue to get better. This year he played really well with 38 points in 48 games which per game is his best season. Lets see if it continues though.

      It just goes to show how much guess work goes into the draft. You really never know what you are going to get.

      Sergei Kostsitsyn had 15 points this year. To me I would classify him as a bust even though he was drafted in the 7th round. He is a head case

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Guy Lafleur, André Savard and Michel Brière. The latter two had 50 and 51 goals in 1970-71, Guy’s draft year. Guy potted 130.

      • Chris says:

        Different eras.

        How about this one:

        Mario Lemieux – 70 GP, 133 G, 282 PTS, 97 PIM
        Jacques Goyette – 62 GP, 76 G, 170 PTS, 66 PIM
        Francois Sills – 70 GP, 56 G, 130 PTS, 39 PIM

        The Q was just a ridiculous scoring league up until the 1990’s, so it is hard to put some of those scoring numbers in perspective.

        Here is the 1973-74 Sorel Black Hawks top line:

        Pierre Larouche – 67 GP, 94 G, 251 PTS, 55 PIM
        Michel Deziel – 69 GP, 92 G, 227 PTS, 69 PIM
        Jacques Cossette – 68 GP, 97 G, 214 PTS, 214 PIM.

        THREE guys on the same line each had over 90 goals and over 200 points. That is just silliness.

  39. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Think the Memorial Cup has made it clear that it’s a crap shoot between the top 3 prospects. “Choosing the best player” won’t really apply as they are all the best in their respective roles…so it depends much more on what a team needs.

    Guessing Colorado goes with Jones as they need D and are already fairly deep and young down the middle.

    That said, if the Habs were picking No. 1, who would you take?

    I think I’d go off the charts and take Barkov. 6’4 centre. Yes please.

  40. John Frodo says:

    The new Molson era is a huge improvement in terms of player development. In recent history it seemed it was a Darwinian challenge. Now people are actually trying to improve prospects. Still the best NHL teams have three 21st century tools that have not gained traction with the current brain trust. Mr Molson demand these upgrades immediately.

    1)Shooting/passing robots. I would take it a step farther and create ice surfaces incorporating this tech.

    2) A pro figure skater coach. Chucky and Louis need stroke work.

    3) Computer games that speed up hockey sense and decision making.

  41. mrhabby says:

    Looks like Fonzie stays with the Rangers.

  42. arcosenate says:

    So, Lecavalier’s name has been mentioned as a possible amnesty buyout. Any takers/suckers here?

    Would he even sign with Montreal?

    Is it possible for a team to use a buyout and then re-sign the player for less? What doe the CBA say about that?

    • mark-ID says:

      If we could sign Vinny for 3mil for 3years or something like that, I would love to see him with us instead of Desharnais.

      “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

      • Kooch7800 says:

        Vinny still gets hurt a lot though.

        Sadly though, DD had just as many goals as vinny…Vinny had 4 more assists though

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

        • Todays - Topic says:

          Kooch7800 – So we’re talking injury prone – Some guy didn’t understand what that meant yesterday and I didn’t bother to try and explain it.

          Waste of time making a comment to some on this site.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      A player bought out with the Amnesty Buy-Out cannot be re-signed by the same team for 1 full year.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I’d take Vincent on my team after a buyout, in a heartbeat. He’s still a point per game player, or almost, extremely fit and dedicated to his conditioning, works hard on the ice, he can play special teams. If his cap hit is bearable, it’s a no-brainer.

      Last season he was having a good year, and again was unlucky, sprained his ankle, and slowed down the rest of the year.

  43. wjc says:

    Let me give a little insight into the NHL of the past:

    How Bowman screwed himself.

    Montreal went to Detriot and for some reason Bowman was pissed off. Can’t remember why?

    When he came to Montreal that Saturday night he was out for blood.
    Detriot poured it on and never let up and ‘Roy’ got lit up good for 9 goals. Fans started razing him and when he was finally pulled, he went to Corey who was sitting right behind the Canadiens bench and you know the rest.

    Roy was traded out of the eastern division to an old rival now in Colorado. When Colorado got Roy it was the piece they needed and won the ‘Stanley cup’ a few months later.

    They beat Detriot in 6 games. Detriot would have won that series if not for Roy. A motivated Roy wanted to shove it down Scotty’s throat and he did. Costing Scotty the cup.

    Colorado went on to defeat Florida 4 straight.

    That is how Scotty screwed himself out of another cup. Boo hoo for Scotty. If he had not come into Montreal with revenge on his mind, Corey would have probably had no excuse to run Roy out of town.

    History is interesting……..ya think.

    Maybe Montreal was thinking the same thing, a way of getting back at Bowman for embarrassing them at home.
    wjc

    • von says:

      Nice conspiracy theory. I prefer the historical version though where Tremblay/Corey went down as buffoons who set the organization back 10+ years.

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      “Obviously it would be great, but they don’t really hang conference titles in this rink. They raise Stanley Cup banners.” – Carey Price


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