Tough one tonight

Canadiens defenceman P.K. Subban signs autographs for fans as he enters Rogers Arena for Tuesday’s morning skate.
Stubbs photo

They’re all tough lately.

But the Vancouver Canucks are REALLY good.

And the Canadiens haven’t won in Van since Nov. 30, 2000.

Martin juggles lines

Stubbs on Calgary game

“Classic” did nothing to showcase hockey – Hickey

Réjean Tremblay didn’t like it either

• Arpon Basu on decoding Martin

And thanks to video scout Jarred Friedman for the Sedin Twins playing the Newlywed Game




  1. KenD29 says:

    Are you saying Gomez and AK46 have contributed when the team was having success?

    Both should be watching the rookies from up above tonight.


    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  2. Bugs says:

    Yes, that’s right, THOSE rookie Hab coaches what won it all.

  3. LA Loyalist says:

    Obviously experience is an advantage. But to me the issue is brains. A smart coach will adjust to what he has, not what he wants.

    Why was Pat Burns successful with 3 different teams? Cause he was able to adjust to the players he had.

    JM has some model in his head of what he wants and tries to break the players to it. To me that’s moronic.

    Look at what Lemaire has done in NJ – you can say he’s systemic and rigid. Then how did he get Kovalchuk going? He’s smart, he knows a game breaker when he sees one and adjusted.

    JM adjusts his tie, occasionally, that’s about it.

  4. twocents says:

    Most rational people understand this.

    Mjames’ premise is ridiculous.

  5. HardHabits says:

    If you make it out of the top five you have 10% chance. I don’t like those odds.

  6. Mattyleg says:


    In MY reality, Martin walks into the dressing room in his suit, stands silently and mumbles “we have to play each game one at a time. I’m happy with our development. Injuries have been a problem this season, but I’m confident we can overcome them and get the results we need.”

    The players can’t hear him over the sound of their skates being laced, and he slinks out silently to stand in the hallway and stare at the wall.

    That’s what happens.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  7. TomNickle says:

    It’s no secret that in this market as a coach, you need to be prepared for every single on ice decision you make to be dissected by hundreds of media types and tens of thousands of fans.

  8. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Reality is not something the majority here deal with.  Once again this place is overrun by the trolls and doomsday folk.  When you have to wade thru 100 Observer or Timo or Manapart posts saying how much the team and management sucks, just to read the intelligent thoughtful posts made by real fans of the team it’s pretty bad.

  9. Off-side says:

    Doh!  Then why are the reporters complaining?  Yes, I did find it on You Tube and you are correct.  And, these guys had the decency to sing the Canadian anthem partly in French.

    I retract my ugly insult to the US and now throw these very same nasty insults to the Alberta!  Booooo!  Shame on you Alberta!

  10. observer says:

    when the held the winter classic between 2 american teams they played both national anthems as well!

  11. observer says:

    these were not rental players. all 3 signed through next season. what it was is just salary slashing by dallas $2.6 million off next years payroll. and shero sharp enuff to know whats going on in the league and taking advantage of it. gainey and gauthier are too effing old and out of touch.

  12. Habfan29 says:

    Dreger is a McKenzie wanna be…

  13. Mattyleg says:


    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  14. Jonson says:

    i think they should put AK back on the top line. I really dont see why everyone has been bashing him so much lately. i find he has been working hard, just not get the bounces. and playing with Gomez really doesnt help.  i think playing with pleks and cammy would do him good. and you need some consistency before the playoffs.  lets hope gomez doesnt bring down patches and gionta. cause if he can play better with them it will make this A LOT better. we need more than one good line. dont get me wrong i really like pouliot and desharnais as well. but its a good 3rd line this year. Maybe in a couple of years they will make 2nd line contributions.


    I think montreal will win tonight!

  15. notbigbird says:

    JM would split them up within two shifts.

  16. Jonson says:

    come on they are both great hockey players, i would take one of them on this team, thats for sure


  17. fbkj says:

    you mean like the all star game that just passed and was a huge topic of discussion?

  18. Displaced says:

    I agree.  But I wouldn’t dump all those players.  Some of them are core.  Would you consider it “tanking” if moved some or all of Cammi, Gomez, Markov (no one would pick up him — he’s probably out for this year and a UFA at season’s end), AK, Moen, Pyatt, Spacek (if he’s not hurt), and/or Wiz? 

    Whose leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  19. TomNickle says:

    I honestly had no idea he was their assistant for that long.  Just further proof that it doesn’t work.

    Can’t go from being the guy who gives hugs to the guy giving the interviews.


  20. Mattyleg says:

    John Tortorella’s ‘attack-attack-attack’ style would be popular here.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  21. TomNickle says:

    He’s a different case, I believe he was the coach of the AHL affiliate of New Jersey’s.

  22. TomNickle says:

    You’re failing to take into account all of the intracacies that go with coaching a 20 person group of men.  You have to be a great judge of character and be able to understand what each person cares about, what motivates them, what they play for, how they react to criticisms and on top of all of that, you have to know how to make them come together as a team.  You have to be incredibly disciplined.  What I mean by that is that you have to think about every single thing you say in such a way that you’re pondering what each individual reaction would be to a single comment.  You have to assess each player and determine a role for them within your team and then when you deal with injuries you must assess which player you’ve hardly ever watched at all is the best fit to fill that role in the injured players absence.

    Coaching isn’t just x’s and o’s and ra ra ra’s.  He’ll be a good coach, but it won’t be as the head coach of this team anytime soon.

  23. wmarcello says:

    Great hit. 🙂 Cooke had his head down, and at worst the hit was borderline high. Refs made the right call, 2 for charging. Completely worth it though.

  24. HardHabits says:

    Since there isn’t much to cheer for these days I thought maybe people would like to see Bradley demolish Matt Cooke.


    Getting into the play-offs by the skin of your teeth and getting your ass kicked in 1st round is not my idea of building a championship team. – Brian Burke

  25. HardHabits says:

    In the last 10 years the Red Wings and Devils won the Cup twice. Every other team that won in that span was either an expansion team or a team that tanked in recent it’s history.

    2009-10 – Chicago Blackhawks (tanked)
    2008-09 – Pittsburgh Penguins (tanked)
    2007-08 – Detroit Red Wings (tanked in the 80’s)
    2006-07 – Anaheim Ducks (expansion)
    2005-06 – Carolina Hurricanes (tanked)
    2003-04 – Tampa Bay Lightning (expansion)
    2002-03 – New Jersey Devils (expansion team that tanked in the 80’s)
    2001-02 – Detroit Red Wings (tanked in the 80’s)
    2000-01 – Colorado Avalanche (tanked)
    1999-00 – New Jersey Devils (expansion team that tanked in the 80’s)


    Getting into the play-offs by the skin of your teeth and getting your ass kicked in 1st round is not my idea of building a championship team. – Brian Burke

  26. Habfan29 says:

    Just heard Darrin Dreger on Team 990 saying that the leafs will most likely land John Michel lyles by the end of the day…

  27. SmartDog says:

    I love this TSN headline:


    Shouldn’t that really be in the advertisements?  I mean, the Laffs don’t have to pay to have TSN get the word out for them??  Must be nice!

  28. observer says:

    and dreger says gauthier will probably do nothing!

  29. Habfan29 says:

    If I were Gauthier I would do nothing as well, what do we have that anyone could possibly want. Hemsky in Edmonton is going to go at a premium. If we want to make a splash then we would have to give up a Roster play, such as Subban, Pleky, patches etc and as I fan I do not want to so Gauthier to make a trade for the sake of making a trade just so that we can make the playoffs and maybe get by a first round, no rentals. the only move I would make would be in the off season, Ship Martin upstairs, make Muller the coach and bury Gomez in the minors if we cannot unload him for a bucket of pucks or a case of gatorade…

  30. fbkj says:

    this is positive news, thanks observer, usually you just post negative quips, this new happy version of you is refreshing

  31. Habfan29 says:

    What we seem to forget that this team is a direct refelction of their coach, they play uninspired hockey and just look at their coach behind the bench never says a thing and his facial expression never changes, but his ears twitch. After those 2 penalties in Calgary should have been up on the bench screaming at the refs, even if they were deserved penalties, he needs to show emotion this will fire up the team, but he does not, and the team follows suit.

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