Today’s lines at practice

The Yannick Weber experiment seems to be on hold.

Practice included a bag skate.

The lines:

AK46 – Tomas Plekanec – Brian Gionta

Travis Moen – Scott Gomez _ Mike Cammalleri

Tom Pyatt – Jeff Halpern – Maxim Lapierre

Benoit Pouliot – Lars Eller – Mathieu Darche

The extra players today are Weber and Dustin Boyd.

• Jacques Martin grumpy during his press briefing. No one suggested he try Sneezy, Dopey, Sleepy, Bashful and Happy on the power play.

• Check out which write-in candidate leads the balloting for All-Star goaltender

• Arpon Basu Tweets: This is first time this season Plekanec has gone 3 games without a point. He was the only player on the team not to have done it yet

Ovie MIA

 

327 Comments

  1. Fred D says:

    Gomez skates for figures.

  2. Patient No More says:

    Good point, however, given there is no sign of improvement over the first 25% of the season, at what point would you suggest taking action is reasonable and viable ?  Supporters of the Habs are showing signs of developing the Toronto “wait until next year” approach to calling for improvements.  It has not worked for Toronto either.  When we tolerate mediocrity we get mediocre teams, and it has been a long time since anyone scheduled a parade down St. Catherines St.

  3. Tyg says:

    You shake your head in disgust. I roll my eyes. And Jacques plays the Hokey Pokey and turns us all around.

     

    I like your line combos. It stands to reason since they are the exact same ones I just posted on your site before I found you over here stealing my thunder! Kidding. But there’s no way Halpern can be worse than Gomez on the 2nd line. I’d be willing to risk it too.

     

    Not sure why Benny – the team’s 5th best scorer – can’t get out of Fidoville. 4th line now? I’d rather see him traded than left there to rot. Gomez on the other hand…

     

    Jacques has gutted the 1st and 3rd lines. They were both producing consistently. Now they’re not. Coincidence? No. Will he put them back then? Probably not. *insert profanity of choice here*

     

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  4. Storm Man says:

    So ex habs are the best at figure skating?

  5. 123456 says:

    europe is an option for gomer as well. the habs are running a business so everyone is fair game

  6. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Patrice would have won, but once he got close to the corner, he skated away from Shae-Lynn.

  7. Komihater says:

    Best lines ive seen so far, good job. Finally someone else thinks to try eller with gomez.

  8. coachdoug says:

    I don’t disagree with your thought about winning…however DD is not near ready, if he ever will be…we need to think big…we already got our quota of small forwards!

    This Gomez trade will haunt the Habs for years to come…even if he really finds a groove at his age all we can expect is average to above average…

    You can’t tie up that much cap in a guy toward the end of his career…that 7 mill would buy a good 3.5 mill center and a 3.5 mill dman…Eastern Conference fire sale will start soon for some teams but we got very little money to buy…

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  9. JD_ says:

    The Loafs are awesome.

    They’d be even more awesome if their perpetual goon show was just bad enough to keep ‘em from taintin’ the overall quality of the post-season offerin’ with their inevitably overhyped first-round presence-cum-four-game-meltdown while, at the same time, good enough to keep the Broonz from further stackin’ the cupboard with cans of goodness.

    Time to toss Wilson on the trash heap and bring in Goldilocks.

  10. SmartDog says:

    TOTALLY LOL

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  11. db says:

    The only way Gomez gets sent down this year is if we get another 1st line center to replace him… where’s that gonna come from?  DD isn’t ready yet and that’s just not fair to him.. 

    Now, next off season I think it’s very possible that the Habs sign Brad Richards and keep Gomer in the minors.. or send him to a team that has a hard time getting to the cap floor.  (for example..)  This year, we’re stuck with him.

  12. SmartDog says:

    Radical. I love it!

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  13. VintageFan says:

    Habs made enough cash with the unexpected playoff run to either move Gomez or do a Redden.  And there’s a dynamic small center in Hamilton to replace him.  Somebody needs to concentrate on winning rather than “organizational correctness”.

  14. VintageFan says:

    It would appear that the converted bingo machine that Carbo used for line-making has fallen into the hands of Coach Jacko & Co. It isn’t a given that they have the collective smarts to update it so don’t be surprised if Higgins or Latendresse appear on the line up card.

    Sigh.  La plus ca change…………..

  15. Bugs says:

    I don’t know if we took our foot off the gas last night as much as Philly put their foot ON it. Those two penalties in the 2nd gave’em all the shots, momentum switched, Philly started to sense it and pounced. Had Lappy completed his hat-trick insteada ringin it off the post, I dunno, mighta been a different game maybe.

    Got no problem with Eller playing frustrated lately. He’s been better. Non-productive, but slightly more dangerous. Until he’s sent down, non-productive slight danger is better than non-productive NO danger, I guess.

    Flyers each thought someone other than themselves was supposed to take care of Soobie. Giroux was just the one left holding the bag.

    Who, who? Who you talkin about? Todd?

    I don’t get all the crap slung at Wilson; I think he’s doing a grrrreat job. Honest. Let the guy coach his guys the way he (as well as the goofs tellin’m what to do) sees fit, I say! I LIKE the leafs I’m lookin at; ain’t gonna bash the coach, man.

    And are you sure about Burke sucking? TSN says he’s one of, if not the, best in the League. Who to believe? And again: I LIKE the leafs I’m lookin at. I think Burke is ALSO doin a fiiine job, a fiiiiiiiine job, I say.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

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  16. ctony says:

    I like it.  What are the PP units?

  17. Mark C says:

    JM is giving Gomez the least amount of ice time in his career since 2003-04. The season is 21 games old, there is no way sending Gomez to the AHL is reasonable and viable option yet.

  18. Kamal Panesar says:

    Well said and I agree 100% with Halpern on the second line.  The guy is averaging just over 13 mins a game and is fourth in team scoring.

    Nuff said.

     


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  19. coachdoug says:

    As much as I am not a fan of Gomez…JM has almost no options with L’Albatross…

    We can’t trade him because of his ridiculous contract…JM has to find a way to get at least average production from Gomez…

    I really hope Gomez can get going because we are stuck like Chuck with Gomer…Putting him on waivers would cost the Habs a fortune and signal a huge defeat to the front office…not going to happen any time soon

    On that note #13 has got to get going as well…will that happen with his current pivot??? It’s a vicious cycle…

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  20. dh says:

    Swap AK and Gionta and make the Gionta line the second line and the PHD line the 3rd.  This way we’re back to our two most productive lines of the year.  Maybe Gionta can fire up Eller.  And Laps deserves a shot – at least as much as Pyatt IMO.

  21. JD_ says:

    * Meh. Go up 2-nil against a proud, albeit in a kinda putrid way, team like the Flyers and then take your foot off the pedal after an intermission when you absolutely know Laviolette is personally rippin’ everyone a new one – it’s hard to miss that deranged, wild man look Pete gets when he’s upset – and you’re pretty much assured you’re goin’ to be outshot 517-2 in the 2nd. Were it not for prevailin’ Habs’ MVP Carey Price – is he really gonna make a HON save every outin’? – the team would have been creamed corn.

    * Much has already been said about the vets last night – …argh…shootin’ pains in my left arm, tightenin’ of the chest…I’m agreein’ with Michel Bergeron…ack…argh… – so no point in belabourin’ it, but on a positive note, I like Lars Eller’s mojo. Yeah, in 27 NHL games he’s got three points and is a -1. The thing with kids, though, is tryin’ to peer into their heads and ponder what could be. The raw-skilled, albeit skinny kid has a bit o’ nastiness lurkin’ beneath the surface that will serve him quite well down the road. You saw it poke its head out when that chubby, overpaid little weasel with the squeaky voice took another of his patented faceoff circle cheapshots. And, no, I don’t really care why Gruyere did it, he just did it, kinda like our very own Tomas Jagr has his reasons for pullin’ the same crap. Eller grabs Danny’s stick and tosses it aside. Unsportsmanlike, indeed, and yet I loved it for what it says about the kid’s mindset. Now, go hit the weight room ‘fore the mean guy on the beach kicks sand in yer face.

    * As anticipated, zip happened to PK last night. I can only think of one missed boardin’ attempt by Richards and that’s about it. If anythin’, I wouldn’t have wanted to be that Giroux dude goin’ for the empty-netter only to get a couple of ribs caved in as he tried to skate by Soobs. If you watched Claude after the game ended, he had one of those “Well, that was certainly wasn’t worth it” painfully doubled-over looks to him.

    * Speakin’ of Price, it says a whole lot that guys who perhaps went a hair overboard criticizin’ him on HI/O have the ballz to mea culpa in the face of his strong performance so far this season, while an intellectual coward of a sports columnist continues to hide by writin’ about anythin’ but hockey, you know, right smack dab in the middle of hockey season. Twerp.

    * Unless I missed it, of course. But I doubt that.

    * Also as expected, Nazem Kadri has been called up to be the Mopey Loafs’ saviour. Despite Kaddy playin’ a good first game with the big team, Loafs head coach Ron Wilson made a point of publicly criticizin’ the soon-to-be-ground-to-a-pulp youngster cuz, you know, coachin’s all about shittin’ on everyone and everythin’. Respondin’ to criticism regardin’ his public comments, Wilson offered up his typical cool-as-a-cucumber thoughts, “Am I allowed to coach anyone, seriously? Like, ‘Oh boy, Nazem should be able to do what he wants and the coach shouldn’t tell him how to play hockey in the NHL. No.’” No word yet on which ACC parking lot was selected for placement of the crucifix.

    * Brian Burke continues to suck.

  22. CHCanadien says:

    Please make JM stop!

  23. krob1000 says:

    It would have been disapoointing if an ExHab didn;t winsicne 5 of the 8 contestants were ex Habs

  24. Les-Habitants says:

    I’ve begun thinking that JM is keeping any young kids away from Gomez…which makes sense, I guess.  He’s in a slump, so he’ll be fighting the puck and you’d rather have veterans there who’ve been in the league for a while playing along side him.  That said, I thought Gomez made some good plays last night – it isn’t his fault that two of his passes went right through the slot without anyone touching them

    I liked the first line of Gio, Plek, and AK. 

    Don’t like Pouliot being broken up from the Halpern line, but they were dreadful last night…blown cover on two of those goals, so the fact that they got broken up isn’t surprising.

    Weber was hesitant and couldn’t keep the puck in at the point – he looked nervous.  I’ve seen him play much better than that before at the NHL level, so he just needs to get his head in the game.

    Eller looked good – again.  I think this kid is going to have a strong career, and I have no issue with him being brought along slowly.

    Final point: Darche is a better forward than Weber.  Maybe have another forward take the point on the PP to fill out the rotation of Spacek, Hammer, and Subban?

  25. coachdoug says:

    lol…The last line is a keeper!

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  26. Patient No More says:

    Other teams have found a solution to their Redden &  Souray problem ie. grossly overpaid / under performing player.  When will Gauthier exercise a similar solution on Gomez ?  For reasons unknown to most, JM continues to provide him with a significant amount of ice time despite poor offensive and spotty defensive contributions.  

  27. avatar_58 says:

    Who did Cammy kill to be stuck with Gomez?

    AK46 / Plek / Cammy
    Pouliot / Halpern / Gionta

    Thank you very much. Halpern in theory is a 3rd liner. Gomez in theory is a top 6. However, as we’ve witnessed, theory doesn’t win games. So fix the lines please.

  28. Kamal Panesar says:

    LOL! Well said!

    I really hope these lines don’t stick for Wednesday night’s game.

     


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  29. HardHabits says:

    Cammalleri – Plekanec – Gionta (speed kills line)

    Pouliot – Halpern – Darche (PhD line)

    Kostitsyn – Eller – Lapierre (the in the system line)

    Moen – Gomez – Pyatt (our shutdown trio)

  30. Kamal Panesar says:

    Wow, terrible.  Gomez is STILL on the second line?  UN-feaking-believable.  How long is this guy’s rope?  Put Halpern on the second and throw Pouliot back up there too…oh, and reuinte the top line.

    AK-Plek-Cammy

    Pouliot-Halpern-Gionta

    Moen-Gomez-Lapierre

     

    It is time to stop screwing around.  Gomez is not getting it done and needs to be moved off of the top two lines, at least for a few games.  He’ll likely have an easier time creating offense while playing on the third line since he won’t have to play against top defenders.

    I shake my heaed in disgust.

     


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  31. SmartDog says:

    Lines at practice are often lines in games. I’m not pulling my hair out thanks, but I am confused and still can’t get why he’s broken up PHD and why Pouliot is now on the 4the line while Gomez is still on the 2nd.

    But seriously Serious.  If you’re going to follow me around just to ride me, I’m going to start thinking you have a crush on me.  Why not just skip me? 

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  32. fuhgawz says:

    here are my lines

    Line 1 NO GOMMER

    Line 2 NO GOMMER

    Line 3 NO GOMMER

    Line 4 NO GOMMER

  33. shiram says:

    I dont understand the reasoning behind those line…

  34. Castor says:

    I completely agree! Unfortunately I don’t think JM is listening.

  35. samTHEman says:

    Here are my lines.

    Kostitsyn – Plekanec – Cammalleri

    Pouliot – Gomez – Gionta

    Moen – Eller – Lapierre

    White – Halpern – Moen

    Darche Pyatt

     

     

  36. Bugs says:

    No more foolin around, y’all.

    Poolio/Gio-Pleky-Cammy

    Andrei-Halpie-Gio/Poolio

    Moen-Gomie-Lappy

    Eller/Weber-Darche-Pyatt

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

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  37. SmartDog says:

    WTF?

    “Thanks for the goals last game Max.  Let’s drop you down a line…. and Pouliot, you have too many points for a guy with your ice time.  4th ilne for you.  Halpern, we’re going to keep you away from Pouliot. That was too threatening to our 2nd line.  Gomez, keep up the good work!  You stay 2nd line center. If anyone needs me I’ll be in my office, ironing my hair”

    Makes total sense.  Not.

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  38. joshua94k says:

    Ex Habs wins Battle of the Blades.

    Eight weeks after making his figure skating debut, Valeri Bure and partner Ekaterina Gordeeva beat out fellow ex-Hab Patrice Brisebois (with Shae-Lynn Bourne) for the show’s crystal trophy. Their triumph earned the duo $100,000 to be split among their chosen Canadian charities: Compassion Canada (Bure) and Cardiac Kids (Gordeeva).

    http://www.examiner.com/montreal-canadiens-in-montreal/ex-hab-wins-battle-of-the-blades

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  39. RS says:

    AK46-Plek-Cammi (put our #1 line back together)

    Eller-Gomez-Gionta

    P-H-D (they were working well together)

    Moen-Lapierre-Pyatt (or Moen-Boyd-Laps)

  40. JF says:

    I think JM should reunite the line of Plekanec, Cammalleri, and Kostitsyn.  None of those guys have done as well with new linemates as they did with each other.  Then give Gomez, Gionta, and Pouliot a few games together, now that Plekanec has gotten Gionta going.  If after a few games, Gomez is doing no better, demote him to the fourth line and put Eller between Gionta and Pouliot.  Stop putting Moen on a top line; he doesn’t belong there. 

  41. SeriousFan09 says:

    Pulling hair out over lineup at practice.

    Makes total sense. Not.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  42. fuhgawz says:

    i agree with bugs Poo Poo to the top 6 send Gommer to the 4th or press box.

  43. sidhu says:

    Who does he have to bribe to get into the TOP SIX, let alone top three.

    He did well with Gomez and Gio last season, but apparently he has to play 3rd minutes even though Gomez and Gio are struggling themselves.

    Makes no sense.

  44. Thomas says:

    I know Eller hasn’t produced many points as of yet, but he has consistently been a solid reliable player out there on the ice.  He has good ability to carry the puck up ice, and is finding open sticks alot…I personally don’t think he will blossom on the 3rd or 4th line as a checking forward.  He has good skills, I just wish JM would give him a regular chance up front, by that i mean more that 1 or 2 shifts a game.   That being said this is how I would like to see the lines:

    AK46 – Tomas Plekanec – Brian Gionta—Fine wih me, maybe sub in Cammy for Gio

    Eller – Scott Gomez _
    Mike Cammalleri—Either Gio or Cammy here on the right

    Tom Pyatt – Jeff Halpern – Moen–I know Moen is a lefty, but could add some body to this line

    Benoit
    Pouliot -Lapierre – Mathieu Darche–Lappy an Benny could work well together

    I don’t want it to sound like i’m criticizing JM, I do not totally agree with all his line juggling, but I think he’s doing a great job overall.

    GO HABS GO!!!!!

  45. Bugs says:

    Who the heck does my boy Poolio have to MURDER to get on the 1st line playing 29 minutes a game up in this joint?

    Cuz this is gettin ridi-goddang-culous. 4th line? 11 mins a game? Did he pee in the punch? What the heck?

    The num5 drafted Kid was relegated cuz he was being outplayed. So WHO’S outplaying the num4 draft that HE’S being relegated? The kid might not be bringing the impact the Kid is but he’s certainly bringin some friggin GAME, man, ever since the start’o'the season and a heck of a lot more than others I don’t need to mention and STILL producin even when cast in the swamp, so how ’bout tossin the poor bastich a bone, ferpetessakes? If we gave the Kid the tools to succeed, why can’t we do the same for buddy drafted ahead of’m, knowumsayin?

    Cuz this 4th line biness is just some old BULLspit, man. Bullspit.

    Hmmph!

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

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  46. sidhu says:

    Moen does not belong on that line, no offense to him.  He’s a checker, not a scorer.  We need another top 6 forward, or give Benny his spot back.

    We also need to reduce Hammer and Spaceman’s minutes.  PG should work the phones for a D-man.

  47. Rusty says:

    Rusty Stubb

    JM is doing the same bad mistake with Weber as Carbo did with Streit, playing him out of position. If Weber is successful in the AHL as a D man then this is his position. Just what does one expect when playing him as a 4-line forward? That he will become a Lafleur? Weber is basically done because the club didn’t know how to develop him. Send him back to La Suisse. Eller needs linemates!!! Pouliot is a good start, but it’s time to simply downgrade Gomez and swap him and Eller on the depth chart.
    Playing Price vs. Nashville last week was a bad move by JM. Does he think that Price will play 79 games and be fresh for the playoffs?

  48. Instant Karma says:

    Breaking up the only 2 lines that have worked all season for 4 lines that do nothing. Brilliant!

  49. RS says:

    Dressing 7 D and only 11 forwards just doesn’t make sense.

    If Markov was in the line-up playing 25-30 minutes a game, the Habs could, in theory, afford to have Weber dressed as the 6th D and play only a modest amount, including powerplay time. But that would still mean Picard and somebody else sits. And there are no other candidates to sit. It wouldn’t fly.

    Without Markov, the Habs have to share the icetime among 6 D. And right now Weber certainly isn’t ready to break into our top 6 (or 7 counting Markov) and take a regular shift.

    Bottom line: Weber should be playing in Hamilton and working on his defensive play. If the Habs want a 7th D to have around for an emergency situation, call up Alex Henry or find some veteran guy to sit in the pressbox.

  50. fuhgawz says:

    Gommer should be traded to the KHL for the rights to some kid in the Ukraine who has yet to learn how to skate.  He has NO value to us or the rest of the NHL earning what he is. 

  51. fuhgawz says:

    send Weber back down and leave him there to rot in the AHL or trade his useless ass to some sucker like NYI for a 7th round pick if you can ever get that for him

  52. HabFarmer says:

    That’s assuming that Wilson can actually tell Kadri how to play hockey in the NHL – you know, like he actually knows. 

     

    A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?

  53. Mark C says:

    Gomez gets at least the season to try and turn it around, for these reasons: 1) there are no good in house replacement, little DD isn’t much of an option, 2) what can Montreal what with the cap savings within a season? Not much, 3) odds are Gomez will turn it around at some point.

  54. jimmy shaker says:

    A team that stacked should be illegal!

    Shaker

  55. fuhgawz says:

    i bought out Hammer, Spach, Traded Gommer,Markov,  Gio, Cammy, Signed Kovy II obtained Hedman, Hall, Filitov, Doughty, Signed Mcrilrath (sp?) , and got Johnson from St lou, Stamkos– traded away 3 of my next 1st rounders as well

    so i have

    Kovy Plecks Stamkos

    Akost Eller Filitov(sp?)

    Pouliot Laps Hall

    Patches Pyatt Plushi (sp)

    PK Doughty

    Hedman Johnson

    Josh Mcilrath  

     

  56. Habs Fan says:

    I thought that Price wasn’t even on the ballot? Did they change their minds?

  57. Drew42 says:

    I really dont get why everybody is making SUCH a big deal about the lines with comments like “oh you got 2 goals max lets drop you a line” and such… did it occur to anybody that perhaps;

    1) Just because Boone listed the lines in this order that it corresponds to how much ice time each line will get.

    2) Eller and Poopoo with Darch might be an interesting line to watch and might get more ice time than Gomez’s line (maybe with Cammy flipping spots during the game with Darche)

    3) Pyatt-Halpern-Lap might end up being a good shut down line with some scoring

    last but not least…

    4) CHILL OUT! :P

     

    That is all.

  58. rocketsglare says:

    Not bad. But, knowing JM, by next week those same lines would be changed. It seems that JM hasn’t meet

    a line he didn’t like. Go figure.

     

    Go Habs Go!

  59. Chuck says:

    He’s not on the ballot. They’re all write-in votes.

    Centre Hice: puttin’ on the foil

  60. D Alcorn says:

    OK, now this idea just might have some legs.  I seem to recall Kovalev and others having their butts nailed to the bench in the past.  

    This said, I am loathe to jump on all of this anti-Gomez sentiment.  The Habs knew all about his contract when they agreed to take it on.  Fact of the matter is that it just should not be necessary to have to spend so much time pondering external motivators, such as benching etc, for a veteran like him.  

    Note that I used the word veteran and not ‘ pro ‘ :  IF (and it’s an important IF) he is as non-chalant as many on here claim, it would certainly undermine any notion of professionalism on his part, and certainly professionalism as we have known it in past with this organisation.  Of course, the reality of opening this can of worms is that the notion of true sports professionalism is increasingly rare no matter where you look these days.  

    ALWAYS Habs -
    D Mex

  61. Habs Fan says:

    Thanks, I didn’t know that was possible to do. I appreciate your response. And go Pricey, impressive. I just hope the results aren’t similar to what happened two years ago.

  62. JSP1990 says:

    I wish we could find a way to get Marc Savard out of Boston and put Gomer in Europe or somethin…..

  63. sholi2000.com says:

    Carey Price 71199, he’s kicking ass on the ice and on the leader boards.

    Who will make it 71200 votes?

    The race is on!

    They Call Me Shane

  64. sholi2000.com says:

    I just added 4 more.

    They Call Me Shane

  65. Danno says:

    Does Albania have a hockey team?

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  66. SeriousFan09 says:

    Puck Daddy digging up some dirt on HNIC and the whole Theme fiasco.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  67. JSP1990 says:

    He would fit in in Sweden!

  68. nick says:

    I was expecting Auld to be #2 in goalie votes. What the hell people?!

  69. SeriousFan09 says:

    Don’t forget to give some write-ins to Tommy Jagr folks.

    Voting Subban to the ASG as well and for cryin’ out loud, someone give Shea Weber a vote, he is way better than Seabrook, Letang, Martin, Byfuglien, Timmonen and Green.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  70. TheDagger says:

    Just wondering… what do people think about Gomez?…

  71. J_P says:

    did you guys really have to link that Ovie MIA thing? Just a little rub in the faces of all the poor suckers like myself who drafted him first overall in their hockey pools lol

  72. J_P says:

    I agree.  Can we just go back to Pleks/Ak46/Cammy and Gomez/gionta/pouliot please? Maybe even leave them together for a good 10-15 game stretch at least?

    That would be nice… 

     

  73. J_P says:

    is that a legit stat? Wow, if it is, thats unbelieveable.  Dont show that to Ian though. 

  74. Chorske says:

    Love Moen, but he has no business being on a second line. I’d I’m not gonna join the make-a-dealers at the quarter point of the season, but the continued suckage by Gomez (and Cammalleri hasn’t exactly lit the hizzie on fire either) could probably be addressed by giving him more than one option.

    It might be worth thinking about potential aquisitions who could play that role. People not named Guerin.

  75. HardHabits says:

    I posted this earlier and I am going to post it again with an explanation.

    My line combos:

    1) Cammalleri – Plekanec – Gionta

    This line should give opposing teams fits. Two goal scorers and one of the best centres in the league that can pop them in as well. This is a veteran line  with speed and skill. Yes they’re small(ish) but they go to the dirty areas and all three of them can pass and shoot. Would be one of the best lines in the league IMO.

    2) Pouliot – Halpern – Darche

    That’s right. This is my 2nd line. Halpern wins face-offs and  Pouliot and Darche crash and bang. They create energy and score goals. Great hard working chemistry.

    3) Kostitsyn – Eller – Lapierre

    I put AK with Eller and Laps because they can all skate and crash and bang. Eller will score points with this trio.

    4) Moen – Gomez – Pyatt

    None of these guys are  goal scorers so this would be a shut down line. As Gomez is in a funk this will allow him to play his defensive game. Let him score on the counter if possible. The bottom line (no pun intended) is that this line can be put out against the other team’s top forwards and close the door on them. This way the other lines will have more room to score.

  76. 24moreCups says:

    Am I the only one who doesn’t really want Price to play in the All Star game?

    I mean I think he deserves it and it’s nice to show that earned a spot playing in it.

    But I’d rather him just rest up during the All Star game.

  77. joeybarrie says:

    This is not a very good indicator of a trend. Mostly because when Cammi plays less than 18 minutes we are undefeated… When PK plays less than 18 minutes we have only 1 loss… We are undefeated when Gionta plays less than 18 minutes…

    In 5 of 7 loses PK averaged 22 minutes or more. Compared to 3 of 13 wins.

    In 4 of 7 loses Gionta averaged more than 20 minutes. Compared to 3 of 13 wins.

    In 4 of 7 loses Cammi averaged more than 20 minutes. Compared to 4 of 13 wins.

    In 6 of 7 loses Pleks averaged more than 20 minutes. Compared to 7 of 13 wins.

    In the end you put out your better players when you are losing… So they get more ice time.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  78. joeybarrie says:

    HONESTLY…….. Its like they WANT history to repeat itself…. STAY AWAY FROM THE USELESS ALL STAR GAME. I want the Stanley Cup. I don’t care if Price gets a 1 period shut out at the ALL STAR game…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  79. shiram says:

    Well at least JM is pissed off too, if you read the ckac blurb.

    What i’d like to see is Gomez face the press, we have not heard one peep out of him. Now he probably wouldnt have mucn to say, but at least that would show some accountability, and maybe kick start him??

    bah who knows at this point!

  80. Drew42 says:

    All that this really shows is we win more often when we roll 4 lines and dont just keep dumping the same 1-2 tired lines out there… I dont know about most of you guys but thats usually how the good teams win games… its what you always want to be able to do… roll 4 lines… look what happend to the Sens when they had that 1 line in the playoffs… look what happend to the Caps last year, and to the Pens as well…

  81. db says:

    Seriously, what a waste of a weekend.. it’s not for the fans, it’s so the NHL brass can pat themselves on the back and get some money from sponsors.

    I still think it would be kinda cool to have Price and Halak play the same period :p

  82. ha_bs 24 says:

    I have to agree with you that is a great lineup for the Habs to win with.

     

     

     

    P.S. LETS GO HABS

  83. Mikey_39 says:

    Duno about line number 4.  Last night Moen and Gomez were brutal together! They were barely ever out of their own zone.  I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything more pathetic.  Honestly at this point, I think it’s time to sit Gomez.  20 games in…I think he’s exhausted all the patience possible

  84. secretdragonfly says:

    Apologies if this has already been posted, I’ve been out of the loop all day,  but Latendresse out for possibly 3 months with 2 surgeries

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=342541

  85. Mikey_39 says:

    Moen…Lapierre…Pyatt…Darche…I don’t see how we are 20 games in and we’re still using 4th line pluggers on our second line.  

  86. ShangaDoo says:

    Love the 3rd line…has it ever been done?

    “They say you can’t buy experience,and it’s really true.” -Carey Price

  87. dre1744 says:

    I hope he don’t play either……..     So quit stuffing the ballot boxes!!!!!!!!!! 

  88. ShangaDoo says:

    I think he’s from Alaska…

    “They say you can’t buy experience,and it’s really true.” -Carey Price

  89. adamkennelly says:

    am I the only one who hopes PG makes some moves in the near future.  To me its glaringly obvious what this team is lacking – go out and address it.  If we go all season with no moves and have the trade deadline come and go AGAIN with no activity I’m going to lose it.  Its obvious the team is fairly well poised but has some glaring holes..take our team and add in

    - some top six size

    - some bottom six jam and toughess

    - some more physicality on the back end

    - a PP point shot.

     

    I don’t care if we go to Hammertown to try to get it – but don’t sit still and do nothing.

  90. adamkennelly says:

    double post

  91. db says:

    I’ve never bought out a player… I cant believe I got Stamkos for Gomez and a first lol 

    This is my weakest team of the 3 seasons Ive played but my minors are stacked and the big guys are locked up long term :p And 8 mil in cap space

     

    Hall – Stamkos – Hossa

    Doan – Pleks – Byfuglien

    Pouliot – Zajac – Artyukhin

    Pacioretty – Eller – Klingberg (drafted rookie)

    Boyd

    minors: Kabanov, Nugent Hopkins, couturier….

    Myers – Doughty

    Markov – PK

    Hickey – Fowler

    Pietrangelo

    Sedlacek as goalie… a rookie draftee.

     

    And a bunch of great rookies in the system… its tough to build a team for the long term.  Stamkos, PK, Doughty and Pleks have new 8 year deals lol   I like the off season more than playing the games hehehe

    sigh.. back to reality…

  92. ShangaDoo says:

    Hey, would you mind providing a bit of a translation…please?

     

    “They say you can’t buy experience,and it’s really true.” -Carey Price

  93. punkster says:

    Totally irrelevant stat.

  94. SmartDog says:

    Yeah it would be good to hear from him.   All this stuff about him being a veteran and a leader… pfffttt… you think he’d know he needs to face the music.

     

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  95. punkster says:

    Wait…where’s Breeze?

  96. punkster says:

    Easy isn’t it. Playing GM from your office chair. It’s a no brainer really. I don’t know why he didn’t think of this earlier.

  97. punkster says:

    Accountability? What does that have to do with playing hockey? How would “being accountable” lift his game? Just what do you think accountability means?

  98. punkster says:

    Face the music? What does music have to do with being a hockey player? Are you suggesting that this “facing the music” would elevate his game in some way> How?

  99. jimmy shaker says:

    I think Patch and Desharnais need a look see with the big club to address the lack of scoring issues up front and then sign MAB for the struggling PP.  There that was easy.

    SHaker

  100. jimmy shaker says:

    ditto for me!

    Shaker

  101. joeybarrie says:

    See I disagree. Only with the way these numbers come up. When we are beating a team 3-0 we play more even lines. When we are winning we give the better players a rest. It only makes sense that over the course of a season the better players play less in wins. Check out how many minutes each player has when we are down by one… I bet the better ones have most of the time.

    Its a function of how the game develops…. If we take more penalties, Pleks will have higher numbers. If we get more PP opportunities then Gomez will have more ice time. When we are playing tougher teams Moen will have more ice time. When we are playing faster teams PK will have more ice time…

    I don’t think its dumping the same old tired lines, I think its when we are winning JM doesnt shorten the bench, when we arent winning JM does.

    Remember, when your argue rolling 4 lines is the key to success, dont compare how we beat the Caps to add to your argument, we rolled 3 lines vs the Caps, and players like Metro and Darche got 6 minutes per game…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  102. andrewberkshire says:

    If anyone is interested, I just posted my first blog for Habs EOTP at SB Nation. Gomez just a scapegoat?

  103. SeriousFan09 says:

    MAB won’t be ready for weeks and he’s going to cost us an ES goal for each PP goal we get with him. Pacioretty needs his AHL year to develop (I know that’s a very confusing word around here sometimes) and Desharnais doesn’t have the strength or skating to do the job.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  104. andrewberkshire says:

    In theory it sounds very good. If focusing on the defensive side of the puck allows Gomez to break out of his funk, I’m all for it. And I like the idea of giving Eller a skilled linemate to work with.

  105. SeriousFan09 says:

    I agree, Gomez isn’t being scapegoated, when’s the last time he put a goal on a guy’s stick two or three times in a game? For a premiere playmaker he’s just not making it happen.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  106. SmartDog says:

    Think about it. Gomez is normally quick to jump in front of a camera.  But not lately.  

    Wouldn’t you like to hear what HE says about what’s going on?  Remember Pleks and the “little girl” comment?  When I heard that I thought “this guy is seriously acknowledging he’s in a funk and that he’s going to get himself out of it”.  I’d like to see what Gomez says. ESPECIALLY since he seems to take nothing seriously. I would be that most people would.

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  107. patrice brisebois says:

    If you don’t want to enjoy eating christmas dinner through a tube you better get my glorious hair and outlet pass extrordinaire in that lineup.

  108. SmartDog says:

    What are you just posting the same questions over and over? 

    Accountability is involved in any demanding performance area.

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  109. db says:

    I think the most telling thing for me when it comes to Gomez came from an interview.  When asked how it feels to play his 800th game… he answered something along the lines of:

    ” Its not a big deal… I was more looking forward to the 400 game mark, you know, when the pension kicks in. “

    Those comments from him drive me crazy… I wish him the best, but sometimes it looks like he doesnt care where his game is.

  110. jimmy shaker says:

    MAB is skating and should be able to return to the ice with a team if signed by early next week……Patch has been scoring and really coming into his own this year and I liked his attitude from that interview a couple of weeks ago.  I think he would be a good fit with Gomez and Gionta, but if not Patch getting called up, I’d like to see Desharnais given a chance.  He’s done well this year and even in the playoffs last year for the dogs.  Give Gomez a rest  for a game or two, kick start his arce hopefully and let Desharnais a kick at the can in his place.  Something has to be done with our second line centre….either help him out with a big/fast winger who can score or sit him to see if he can shake loose the cobwebs from his head.

    Shaker

  111. punkster says:

    Good article Andrew. Impressive that you did not use the salary whine or accuse him of the various nefarious things we’ve seen thrown around on HI/O. No leaning on the dreaded word “accountability”, no quoting the sillt 18 minutes playing time stat, no demanding he be hauled on the carpet and given a good talking, a good spanking, a flogging or whatever. The guy is in a slump. A long, frustrating, costly slump. His history says he’ll come out of it. I for one am not too worried.

  112. SeriousFan09 says:

    It’s still an ES goal against for every PP goal for and that’s no good, he can’t work the PK either. Pacioretty doesn’t even have 20GP in the AHL this year and half of his goals came from one really great weekend he just had. Pacioretty will be good for the team, in a year or as a playoff call-up, we didn’t yank Subban out of the minors the second we needed a patchwork solution and the results show. You develop your players at the proper rate and don’t use them as band-aids for your problems.

    If anyone’s getting a 2nd-line spot ahead of Gomez it’s Eller anyway.

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  113. adamkennelly says:

    didn’t say it was easy- said the missing pieces were obvious.  its actually quite difficult in this day and age- which is why PG gets paid the big bucks and I only get paid the semi big bucks to sit here and comment.  actually I wasn’t even playing GM, since I didn’t mention how to go about getting the pieces we are missing – more of a coach – if I were the coach this is what I would tell PG I needed to have a better chance of winning now and more importantly in the playoffs.

     

     

  114. punkster says:

    Spoken like a true corporate slave, SD. ;) (Sorry, I was once one of those and the word today just sends shivers down my spine. It means nothing but gives those in charge the impression they can get the most out of people. Yep, hold them accountable and they’ll work harder/faster/smarter. Wrong. Accountability is just another word for blame).

    My point is that accountablity, and whether he “accepts” it or not, has nothing to do with his game or how he can improve it. He’s in a slump. Holding him accountable will not bring him out of that slump. Playing him on the 4th line might. Sending him to Hamilton might. Benching him might. But having him admit accountability will do diddly.

  115. GrimJim says:

    Wasn’t “he doesn’t seem to take it seriously…” the same criticism that was leveled against Price last year? Maybe the fact that Gomez is not shoving his face in front of a camera at every possible moment a sign that he recognizes he is in a slump and it’s not the time for his jovial manner. And while you may have respected Pleks for his candor, how often did you see him roasted with that comment for the next year. I don’t see what Gomez has to gain from facing the media except some fleeting PR. I’d rather he work his way out of the funk first.

    What would you be if you were attached to another object by an incline-plan wrapped helically around an axis?

  116. punkster says:

    OK. To that I agree, we need some pieces to complete this puzzle of a team. It’s not as easy as identifying the problem then snapping fingers and it fixes itself. But yes, we need the big forward and the young/large D man. Thing is those types don’t grow on trees and they certainly come at a cost, if available. We’re still a year or two from being a true top flight team because of those missing pieces and we won’t fill them in the coming few months unless we luck out or overpay. And I don’t want to morgage the future just to scratch a presnt itch.

  117. jimmy shaker says:

    Anyway, we’ll just agree to disagree on the MAB issue……On Patch, your right, leave him down there for the year and he’ll be better for it.  I’d love if JM would give Eller a shot, but with all his line juggling he’s done, I can’t believe he hasn’t come up with Eller moving up.  He played there for what, maybe 2 games this year?  I really think JM needs to stop with the line juggling and let the boys stay together, good or bad for at least 5 games and see what comes of it.

    A.Kosty/Pleks/Cammy

    Eller/Gomez/Gionta

    Pouliot/Halpern/Darche

    Moen/Laps/Pyatt

    I’d like this lineup, but since JM is all about juggling lines I wouldn’t be against bringing Desharnais to see what he could do, and let Gomer watch from the presser for a game or two.  I think Desharnais could do some things out there, and is better than your suggesting.

    Shaker

  118. Chorske says:

    Jam! Sand! Sandpaper! Size! Grit! Sizesizesize gritgritgrt grit JAM JAM JAM!!

  119. punkster says:

    I was responding in a similar vein to GrimJim below so I’ll just shorten it by saying I could care less what a player says to the media. They all use pat phrases and standard responses. I do care about the slump Gomez is in right now but I don’t think, given his history, it will last. (I’m just trying to counter all the anti-G stuff floating in the pool here today ;)

  120. andrewberkshire says:

    I’m a little worried because I think it’s the worst slump of his career, but I still think he’s a good hockey player. The 18 minute thing that went around last night is ridiculous. I’m guessing that every second line center in the NHL has more ice-time in 1 goal losses than in wins, because the team is trying to tie the game.

  121. andrewberkshire says:

    Agreed, the excuses have run out.

  122. SmartDog says:

    Me a corporate slave!?  HAHAHAHAHA

    I’ve worked for myself all my life.  Except for when I was in grad school, then traveling, then doing freelance journalism, then … jeez I forget. I’m the eopposite of corporate. I’d die in an office.

    I’d put money that accountability si a word that every single Hab would agree is important.

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  123. Duracell3 says:

    Saying Pouliot can crash and bang is a bit of a joke, but he can score when given the puck.

  124. HardHabits says:

    ??? He often leads the team with hits.

  125. habguy says:

    we need to trade AK. he’s a waste.

    in any case I don’t see the habs resigning him. I think this offseason, (will so many players at the end of their contract) will be an interesting 1.

    I can see at least 3 Dman changes, 5 forward changes. and a  backup goalie added.

  126. VancouverHab says:

    Surely that is humour — typical Gomez humour at that.

    My two bits is….that the problem is not with Gomez but with certain fans, media, & H-I/O commentors.

    Most players have slumps. Indeed, players have really bad entire seasons, and come back the next season as strong or stronger than ever. The problem here is that fans isolate one player and focus their negativity on him. Whom Gomez is reminding me of this year (mutatis mutandis) is Mike Keane. Coaches liked him and teammates liked him, but he was the locus of almost all fan negativity. 

    Pleks, Gio, Cammi & AK are not producing. And maybe Gomez is producing even less than them. But a Gomez will always have lower numbers when his supporting cast is not scoring. And it is just an error in fact to say that Gomez is not making good plays (he is) and not working (his effort to create and draw a penalty from nothing last night was magnificent.)

    He actively drew a bigger opponent into a conflict, did just enough aggressiveness himself to goad the opponent with himself getting penalised, and then took a punch in the best William-Riker-as-Klingon-Second-in-Command manner. That this was not only ignored but even mocked here at h-I/O is proof-positive that the Gomez negativity is in the hearts of the attackers, not the in-common-with-his-teammates production.

    Look at the big picture, gentlemen. You will be the happier and less neurotic for it.

  127. JD_ says:

    Well balanced read, Andrew.

    This is by no means an indictment of Gomer, in particular, cause a good number of well-compensated guys on the team aren’t bringin’ it, at the moment. Gomer is, however, worth a look.

    The notion that punishin’ or humiliatin’ a guy who’s been in the league for over a decade is somehow a solution, or will ostensibly wake him to somethin’ he already well realizes, is lamentable. Pure, clinical projection, far as I can tell.

    Yeah, if Gomer were doggin’ it, a trip out to the woodshed would be in order, but I’m not witness to a behavioural issue.

    This is a production issue that has arisen despite a sustained effort and suggests there’s somethin’ not quite right upstairs. I have personally witnessed guys succumb to the pressure of, for lack of a better term, outlier compensation. Regardless of how they actually perform, they are forever under a self-perpetuatin’ umbrella of guilt, and, more often than not, eventually give up. I’m not sayin’ that this is necessarily the case with Gomer, cause I’ve yet to see any openly despondent behaviour, but his often deflective personality suggests his defense mechanisms have been dialled up to 11.

    JM was good ‘n’ pissed at the Brossard press conference today. In fact, his behaviour was downright RonWilsony which, although not necessarily a good thing, seein’ as Wilson is an effin’ douchebag, it was comfortin’ to know Jacques isn’t actually an android. There were obviously questions surroundin’ Gomer’s production and my sense of JM’s view is that if the effort is continued, the results will come.

    It’s the obvious, pat answer, but also reflects the reality on the ground.

    What I’d like to see from Gomer is a return to that feistiness that made me loathe him as a Ranger. Although the physical effort is there, there’s somethin’ lackin’ on the intensity front. He’s much more engaged when he has a hate on and is therefore more effective. As it stands, he seems less aware of the layout of the ice surface when he’s movin’, which he does relatively quickly and which therefore requires he be relatively more alert.

    Maybe a punch in the face?

    Cheers.

  128. punkster says:

    So just so it doesn’t appear like I’m grasping at straws here but are you actually suggesting that a) Gomez is trying, b) if he keeps trying things will start to click and c) maybe a bit more spice in his oatmeal so he’ll recapture some of that old spunk he’s missing? Whoa, radical dude.

  129. LA Loyalist says:

    The big picture is that Gomez looks great between the blue lines. Sadly, that’s not where it counts.

    Otherwise he sucks. If he sucked for $3 M we could say oh well, but when he sucks for $7 or $8 million, money we need to get a tough scoring forward or two who are not midgets, then we can’t just say “oh well”, then, can we?

    We cannot improve this team without somehow dumping his sorry ass and contract. I don’t know how that’s possible, because we are not deep enough yet at any position to be able to entice someone to take him. 

    P.S. I really liked Mike Keane. I’d take him (in his time) over Gomez in a heartbeat because he left it all on the ice every night. That’s all we’re asking.

     

  130. JD_ says:

    If by spice in his oatmeal, you mean lidproppin’ dexies in his Gatorade, then we’re totally on the same page.

    To-tal-ly.

  131. LA Loyalist says:

    why am I questioning you questioning his questions over and over ? :) 

    No one is holding Nomez accountable and it wouldn’t matter if they did.

    He’s done, baked, poached, fried, toasted basted and barbecued. We paid too much for too long and his contract is going to keep this team chasing its tail for another two years. It’s sad, because with Price finally getting it going and PK coming on things were starting to get interesting.

    Sad.

     

  132. habs365 says:

    wow, kostitsyn from 1st line down to 3rd line what a coach you’d make

  133. rocketsglare says:

    Great read, Andrew.

     

    Go Habs Go!

     

  134. Chorske says:

    Blow up a team that was first in the east last week.

    Einstein.

  135. joeybarrie says:

    I dont know……. Halak’s play lately is going to ensure he sits the bench if he makes the team at all….. :P

    The :P means im kidding, so please dont go crazy on me.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  136. rocketsglare says:

    I guess JM is trying to restart Kostitsyn by uniting him again with Plekanec and why is Pouliot on the 4th

    line? He should be on the Gomez line or at least back with Halpern. This constant juggling act could be the

    bane of this team. How can you build continuity or consistency in your lines if they are being constantly re-

    formed from one week to another? It has to impact the offensive game.

    Perhaps it’s time to look beyond the juggling of lines and begin to contemplate new pieces that can actual-

    ly play their assigned roles. I mean you either trade or call up players who can perform for you. That simple.

    We have several players on this current roster who have so far underperformed and need to understand that

    their are consequences to their underperformance. I hope management is prepared to make changes to help

    this team, because we have a golden opportunity to make this season even more special, given the great start

    by this team. We will see.

     

    Go Habs Go!

     

  137. joshua94k says:

    Pop Quiz! Which player on the Montreal Canadiens has a better faceoff percentage than Jason Spezza, Joe Thornton, Sidney Crosby and Pavel Datsyuk? Which current Habs forward has as many blocked shots as Mike Richards? Which Canadiens’ player has a better shooting percentage than Stamkos and Ovechkin?

    Answer: Jeff Halpern

    GM Gauthier should win a GM of the year award if there ever was one. An amazing acquisition for only $600,000. Perhaps Scott Gomez can gift him some of his salary this Christmas. See the excellent article below.

    http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=2276

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  138. Hobie Hansen says:

    AK46-Plekanec-Cammalleri

    Gionta-Gomez-Iginla

    Pouliot-Eller-Lapierre

    Moen-Halpern-Parros

  139. Storm Man says:

    That is one nice looking Habs Xbox 360 team.

  140. Danno says:

     

     

    AK46 – Tomas Plekanec – Brian Gionta

    Travis Moen – Lars Eller – Mike Cammalleri

    Tom Pyatt – Jeff Halpern – Mathieu Darche

    Benoit Pouliot – Scott Gomez – Maxim Lapierre

    Yannick Weber and Dustin Boyd

     

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  141. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    Don’t know if this has been posted already, but Carey is the leading vote-getter for goalies in the All-Star game, despite not being on the ballot. Bobrovsky is in second place, also as a write-in.

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=544313&navid=DL|NHL|home

  142. Timo says:

    Argh… can we not have Habs in the all star bore fest please? It only negatively affects them. Just take a few days off… go to strippers, go for a skate with kids or… stripper. Whatever the routine is.

  143. JoeC says:

    WHY THE HELL IS MOEN STILL DOING ON THE LIKE WITH GOMEZ, you wanna start up Gomez? how bout you give him 2 wingers that have a bit of offensive upside.

    WHY is JM this stupid?? WHY?>

  144. Timo says:

    You want to see a good looking xbox team? Here…

     

    MAB – MAB – MAB

    MAB – MAB – MAB

    MAB – MAB – MAB

    MAB – MAB – MAB

     

    MAB – MAB

    MAB – MAB

    MAB – MAB

     

    MAB

  145. badbalance says:

    Maybe benching Gomez for a short road trip wouldn’t be a bad idea for both us and him.

  146. badbalance says:

    I’m worried about Price being ruined again by the All-Star game. Can’t let him feel like an All-Star yet.

  147. badbalance says:

    Boyd is gone.

  148. Mike says:

    You wanna talk nhl 11 lol

    Gaborik- Plekanec – Nash

    AK46  -  Eller -  Malone

    Pouliot – Halpern – Lisin

    Darche – Pyatt- Lapierre

    All it cost me was Gomez+Cammy+Gionta+Weber+D.D. +Picard+ a first

     

  149. Captain aHab says:

    Because Pouliot, despite playing great, took one penalty. So off with his head because of course we have a surplus of performing forwards right now. But let’s leave the Ghost of Gomez on the second line and give him lots of PP time….

  150. joshua94k says:

    It could be Price vs Halak at the All-Star Game. This will certainly hype up the game. Better than Crosby vs. Ovechkin.

     

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  151. Danno says:

    I thought he cleared waivers and thus is still with the team.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  152. TripleX says:

    Habs record this year when Gomez has 18+ minutes?

    1-6

    Habs record this year when Gomez has less than 18 minutes?

    12-0-1

    Why is Gomez on a top line getting major ice time?

     

     

    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  153. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    I agree. That’s exactly what Carey needs – more time with strippers. Please excuse me for a second while I make a phone call.

    “Allo police?”

  154. Danno says:

    Can I cast an un-vote for Price? I don’t want him to play in that meaningless game and risk injury or a slump caused by being put out there for target practice like the last time he went.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  155. Danno says:

    Or they could go out and see some strippers.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  156. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    Yes, I grant you permission to un-vote. If anyone gives you a problem, you just show them this post.

  157. Danno says:

    He splits his salary 50-50 with JM?

     

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  158. habs365 says:

    tell me those lines are just practice lines…why don’t jm put (cammy,pleks,kostitsyn) together and leave it that way…try (pouliot,halpern,gionta) for his 2nd line…(darche,gomez,lapierre) for his 3rd line…(moen,eller,pyatt) for his 4th line

    he should know by now…kostitsyn works well with pleks and cammy is the bonus guy…the same with pouliot and halpern gionta the bonus guy…I don’t think you can beat that

    the 3rd line and 4th line look good…you can experiment with moen and darche…see how it works…say what you may…if jm keeps fooling with the lines…losses are coming and so are (pittsburgh,new york rangers and boston) pouliot and halpern should be with gionta, they earned the right and work well together…gotta leave it at that….

  159. HabFarmer says:

    Penner is sucking gas right now.  And if you think Gomer is nonchalant, than you haven’t watched Penner skate aimlessly around the ice for an entire period.  We see a lot of him out here in the snowy West.  The one thing the guy’s got is size, but that don’t count for much when he’s skating in sand.

     

    A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?

  160. Storm Man says:

    Not sure on what to do when dealing Gomez.

  161. ctony says:

    My eyes are playing tricks on me.  I thought it said Gomez, MaxPac and Webber for Whitney and Mikhiv.  You made two good points.  We are going to have to sweeten any deal to give away Gomez and JM is not a MaxPac fan.  Webber is a decent throw-in.  Not much chance to play with Montreal as a D-man. I’m just excited about getting back Whitney.  

     

    If we were going to trade for a $4m defenseman, I would like Kaberle or Weisnewski.  The Leafs are desperate to move him and the Isles must be looking to shake things up.  Either could be a triggerman for the PP and make about the same as Whitney.

     

  162. Storm Man says:

    Gomez MaxPac and Weber for Whitney and Pitlick would be the deal I would try. I would like a few Dmen with the 4 mil doller price tag but we are trying to deal Gomez.

  163. Storm Man says:

    Edmonton does have a owner with money to burn. Just need to add the right mix in a trade and I think Edmonton could bite.

  164. ctony says:

    Can you think of a Gomez/Penner deal.  I know I keep mentioning it, but I’m getting a little obsessed.  Say Gomez, a second, and Schultz (good Alberta kid) for Penners and a lesser prospect??

     

  165. punkster says:

    Nice intro post there Alexander. Enjoy the madness that is HI/O and remember when you go into the corners here, go in elbows first ;)

  166. newbrunswick troy says:

    Exactly…and if a player gets yappy…is refered to as disrespectful and “somebodys gonna get him”

    bottom line is this league has basicaly  no union to teach all the players unity….so we have instead 600  individuals who play be there own conduct!!!

  167. SeriousFan09 says:

    Picard and Subban are featured in the Top 10 Hits of the Week on NHL.com, both for hits in the NSH game and Carey was 8th on the saves of the week.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  168. larisalapointe says:

    Perspective, how refreshing. Just got off TSN’s site. These ppl have given up on the Leafs I think. Everything is about Carey Price and the Habs. 3rd in their power rankings and not a word about Gomez – Ahhhh. NHL.com as well (sorry can’t link anything as my rich-text doesn’t work and everything I post on HIO comes out in a clump) Everybody thinks we are doing great except us. I’m liking all the compliments our team and our goalie is getting from everyone. It’s been decades since we’ve had a team like this. And yes, there is always room for improvement but I’ll leave that to PG to figure out.

  169. SeriousFan09 says:

    Bob Mackenzie commenting about how inappropriate it was for Kovy 2, Ovie and Semin to have a chuckle right near the coach’s scrum. I think it’s very inappropriate to call Bruce Boudreau a coach myself.

    They shouldn’t have done that really, but perhaps they all realised the futility of winning a championship with their current situations and couldn’t help but laugh.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  170. punkster says:

    Compliments? About this team? These people must be tracked down and their complimentary comments expunged from the record.

    ;)

  171. CanadienBoy says:

    Okay the laffs need a center we need puck moving D , easy Gomez for Kaberle . Why not ?

  172. Bill J says:

    LOL – Yeah Burke will jump for joy at that offer.

    I bet you anything (having grown to know Burke over the years)

    negotiations to get Kaberle START with PK Subban. <Click goes PG’s phone>

  173. Patient No More says:

    …because the laffs will still need a center..

  174. novahab says:

    Well maybe the Stars would trade Richards to the Habs for Gomez if the Habs gave a little extra. After all Gomez being American the Stars could be interested. Richards could be out next Kirk Muller and with Pleks would be a hell of a one two punch. One can only dream.

  175. likehoy says:

    I think the whole situation is plain stupid..

    if players want to chill, they can chill.

    I know they’re professionals and should respect their organizations and teammates, but they’re not unlike normal people who enjoy friendly competition and to enjoy a laugh and not think about the game.

    - Gomez is holding down the suck button

  176. Jeff says:

    OMG, haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

  177. likehoy says:

    3 years ago I turned down any deal that had to do with the struggling and overpaid brad richards

    but I would take that trade today for 2 reasons…1) gomez sucks, 2) UFA at the end of the year

    - Gomez is holding down the suck button

  178. Jeff says:

    You can keep PK Smartmouth…according to most veteran NHL opponents.

  179. avatar_58 says:

    http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1400234/eller-o.gif

     

    I loved it. Eller doesn’t take sh*t from anyone

  180. Jeff says:

    If it were not for the stellar play of The Princess, the Habs would be in serious trouble aka Devils trouble.

    The Cap hit from some of the non-players are crippling for this smallish limited talent mid-pack team. Dreaming of potential trades in technicolour….nada to offer! nada to spend!

    Be honest, without the STELLAR play of Carey, oh well its a waste of time..

    BTW, Saturdays’s game was well played and could have gone another way. Series tied 1-1

    The 2 goals given to LaPussy were scored by  1. Philly defenceman  2. By Boucher being Boucher (admit it

  181. showey47 says:

    I don’t really see the big deal. It happens after every football game where players from both teams walk around the field and shoot the shit with each other. You see it happen during baseball games where some guy who gets a hit and then has a chuckle with the guy playing first base. It happens after soccer games also. I think its way overblown. 

  182. Bill J says:

    Hey Jeff..

     

    Must break your heart that PK is ahead of ALL Leaf players in All-Star Voting as a WRITE IN eh ?

    Or how about how PK has almost as many votes as that “veteran” Mike Richards.

    Take your veterans and enjoy the basement Jeffy boy.

    As long as OTHER teams Hate PK – works for the Habs. ;)

     

     

  183. larisalapointe says:

    You’re just pissed your Leafs are not in the limelight…get a life, a Hab’s fan’s life.

  184. Jeff says:

    If my memory serves me correctly, you losers voted for almost all of your Habnots recently, including the dastardly Komi and Kovie….say it isn’t so………….

  185. Jeff says:

    A typical non response from a very nervous Habnot fan. The reckoning is coming & soon…..

  186. SeriousFan09 says:

    Dude, don’t feed Leaf trolls.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  187. LA Loyalist says:

    that’s hilarious. But they need someone to (theoretically) get Kessel the puck. Secondly Burkee dislikes Kaberlet as a Euro.

    And the dollars are roughly equivalent – I’m not sure how much time is left on K’s contract. We’d probably have to throw in a Canadian grinder – have we got any of those?

    I’d do the deal in a second as it covers our butts with Markov out and Kabs would be thrilled to have some players who can actually receive his passes.

     

    “I coach hard work” Pat Burns

  188. saskhabfan says:

    Don’t waste your time. Take a look at the pathetic loser you are responding too. Looks like the kind of guy who hangs around school yards with bags of candy. He says he’s from california but he’s actually from timmins ontario.

     

     

    http://www.classmates.com/directory/public/memberprofile/list.htm?regId=8678388039

     

     

    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  189. saskhabfan says:

    I think the leafs should move komi to #1 center,he makes great passes.

     

     

    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  190. Jeff says:

    How’s Tommy Sssssssssssssssssss.  still upset that I actually bring some reality to this site?

    You are soooo predictable, and completely wrong 99.999% of the time.

    Have you seen past your beer belly recently?  

  191. HabFanSince72 says:

    Dear H I/O commentariat

    Not all of you. Just the ones who don’t know the meaning of the word “supporter”.

    You who wonder how Jack Martin can be so dumb when all he needs to do is to read Habs Inside Out to get some pointers, why he plays Moen on the 2nd line, why he plays Pyatt instead of A.N.Other, why he doesn’t bench Gomez or demote him to Hamilton (!), why he calls up Yannick Webber instead or Andrew Conboy (!!!) etc … You who wondered how Gauthier could be so stupid to give Price $2.5M per year (!) and who wonder how he could be so incredibly wrong about everything, from trading SK74 to not signing Dominic Moore, to not eating meat (OK you might have a point there).

    We’re in 4th (deleted) place in the entire (deleted) league. One point behind Detroit. We have the best GAA in the league despite having no all-stars on defence (look at our D on paper -  I mean just look at them). Despite not having our best player. Despite not having an Ovechkin or a Stamkos or a Kane because we never tanked to get the 1st pick.

    We could be Calgary. Or Ottawa. Or Toronto for God’s sake.

     

     

     

  192. Jeff says:

    Komi has more points than Gomey at half the cap hit ???

    That Grabbo trade is looking real good right now, how did the Habs make out on that one?

    He did make a nice pass to Cammi though, something that $7 mil Gomer has trouble at…sometimes.

      

  193. habs001 says:

    based on the roster, we have to realize we can juggle the lines all over the place but the teams scoring will be about the same as last year (23rd overall)…too many forwards that are not goal scorers or are too streaky and are not consistent…the way to win is great goaltending,stellar d play and a1 pk…we have well over 100 games to know that this group of forwards are not goal scorers..we have very few natural goal scorers on this team…what we need is maybe another mobile d man and a tough forward…we should add to where we are strong…there is very little sollution out there to solve are lack of scoring forwards,,,that will have to wait another 2years at least when some of the prospects we have seem to have scoring abilities…if we do well in the playoffs it will be because we win many 2-1 and 3-2 games…

  194. CBrady12 says:

    Bob McKenzie has at least 3 habs prospects in his list of WJC hopefuls for team Canada…Louis Leblanc, Brandon Ghallagher and Michael Bournival

  195. mbplekfan says:

    I guess you could enlighten us as to why Yannick Weber was called up. Other than showcasing him for a future trade is there a purpose to this call-up? His play in Hamilton is sub-par.  He scores on the power play and allows goals 5 on 5. He isnt strong, doesnt skate well, and is physically incapable of competing in the NHL.

    This Weber thing is really strange.

  196. Jeff says:

    A very good post, most posters insist on bichin all the time….idiotic.

    Habs are in very good shape at the 1/4 point, chill out…..

    HOWEVER, without the stellar play of Carey Price………well that’s another story.

  197. HabFanSince72 says:

    3 years ago I turned down any deal that had to do with the struggling and overpaid brad richards

     

    You know if I was going to decide whether or not to accept  imaginary offers I’d probably come up with something more interesting, like the entire Brazil women’s beach volley ball team or Microsoft stock in 1980.

     

  198. Bill J says:

    99% agree.

    I’m begining to think Markov is no longer “our best player”

    He is “among” our best players. IMO.

     

     

  199. HabFanSince72 says:

    YW was called up because without Marky our pp is in trouble, and YW is the top pp point man in the AHL.

    I hope this helps.

     

     

  200. HabFanSince72 says:

    Fair enough.

  201. larisalapointe says:

    Saskhabfan, normally I don’t feed the trolls but sometimes they help us get messages out. He’s a known Leaf troll and probably a sad guy but sometimes it’s hard to differentiate between guys like him and Habs fans. The point of my original comment was everyone considers our team one of the “hot” teams and I’m trying to enjoy that and if guys like Jeff show up, you know the team we love is doing something right! No?

  202. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I wish I still had the post where I made the 10/11 season MTL stats predictions, because I had Gomez pegged for 70-75 pts this year. Took into account he would miss a few games, so pretty much PPG avg.

    Do I want to take a mulligan on that prediction or any others? Not yet.

    But I would love to see Scott take a lesser role for a few games, give Eller a chance to play consistently with ‘skilled’ linemates, I use that term in context (lets face it, the top 6 MUST be your best forwards). This might light a fire under Scott’s ass, get him in to gear, and also allows Eller to gain more experience, give the coaches a show and let ‘em know what they have to work with.

    Ok in the end, I only have an opinion based on the broadcast of the games, and interviews. All I can say from the hip is that JM et staff know this team. The organization has been making the right moves to date. The team sits at the top of their division, 4th overall in the league (as of seconds ago), and the season is 1/4 done. EDIT: and had the Habs won last night, they would have been 2nd overall with a game in hand on 1st overall.

    Mulligan, nah, not yet. I feel the next shot is going to be right down the middle.

  203. Bill J says:

    I get it, for you the concept is quite hard to understand.

    BUT – normal fans of a Hockey team, they vote for their favorite players…. & the players from their favorite team.

    All your proving is the Habs have the most fans in the league.

    ;)

  204. Bill J says:

    It’s only feeding when you post something they can make a valid counter point to.

    But I’m done – I’ve said my piece to the fool who chooses to hang out on a Habs blog who is clearly NOT a Habs fan.

  205. CBrady12 says:

     we have 4 guys who easily averages 20 goals per season, gio, plekanec, cammi and kostitsyn. Pouliot had 17 last year and is on pace for 20…halpern is on pace for 19 but probably wont make it…no we dont have one amazing 40 to 50 goal scorer but we have a decent balance of scoring…we just need one more legt top 6 winger

  206. Da Hema says:

    That is great. Eller has an edge to his play.

    ————————

    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  207. mbplekfan says:

    Weber is a one trick pony in a lesser league. Im reasonably certain that loading up PK’s cannon for two minutes isnt going to wear him out.

    The team is significantly weakened by having Weber on the roster. A big shot from the point cant make up for his shortcomings in all other areas.

  208. habs001 says:

    the stats you state are correct but those stats are only good enough to put us in the 20 to 24th goal scoring in the nhl…we been in this range for over 100 games

  209. habs365 says:

    anyone that has ever played hockey knows the first two lines has to be your best six forwards

    the top three on the first line….. cammy, pleks, kostitsyn

    your next top three on the second line….. pouliot, halpern, gionta

    than pick the bottom six for 3rd and 4th line….. I would say

    Darche, gomez, lapierre

    moen, eller, pyatt

    if they can’t win with those lines….gonna be a long 60 plus games….and only one injury so far….don’t want to think about it.

  210. rocketsglare says:

    The Habs will be facing in the Kings a team that can skate, score, and play D. They also have solid

    goaltending. They will need to be disciplined, patient, and opportunistic against the Kings who are

    one of the better western teams. This will likely be a high tempo game, given both team’s ability to

    move the puck on the rush. It will definitely be an exciting game to watch. Here’s to the beginning

    of a new winning streak.

     

    Go Habs Go!

  211. SmartDog says:

    A good optimistic post. 

    Even I can take a few thoughtful ones like that now and then. :)

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  212. HardHabits says:

    Not always the case. Problem is Habs don’t have 6 top six forwards. What they do have though are two very good lines. This is better, and yes AK is on the 3rd line.

    Cammalleri – Plekanec – Gionta

    Pouliot – Halpern – Darche

    Kostitsyn – Eller – Lapierre

    Moen – Gomez – Pyatt

    1st line speaks for itself. 2nd line has already has proven itself. Putting AK with Eller gives him a  talented winger. Moen – Gomez – Pyatt are not  scoring so putting them in a shut down role seems more apt.

  213. SmartDog says:

    Gomez is holding down the suck button. 

    Love it.

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  214. SmartDog says:

    Don’t you know that on HIO you’re only allowed to dream if you’re dreaming about Gomez becoming a superhero and going on a tear to threaten to win the scoring race. 

    ——-

    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  215. D Alcorn says:

     

    So, you’ve polled ” most veteran NHL opponents ” have you ?

    OK then, let’s have a quick look at the Loafs roster and see what we find …

    - Ron Smartmouth is the Head Coach (for now), and

    - Brian Bigmouth is the GM and * bonus * #1 Hockey Man of the Decade Candidate in Boston, Mass.

    Most knowledgeable hockey observers recognize that, even in his rookie year, PK Subban has all the tools required to back up the chat.  And that his potential is significant.  If you think Don Cherry qualifies as a member of this group, get out of 90210 – fast !  

    PK is from the Toronto area but would never fit on that roster.  Why ?  Well, he’s a winner.  And as we can see above, the trend in TO leans more toward big-mouth whiners more committed to the time-honoured Loaf tradition of losing.

    IMHO of course :-)

    ALWAYS Habs -
    D Mex

  216. TomNickle says:

    I guess that depends on who you consider your six best forwards to be and what you value in a hockey player.  Steven Stamkos isn’t likely to win the cup this year.  Know what I mean?

  217. Bill J says:

    Hey even Gretzky was traded ;)

    But you are likely correct… Stamkos will wait at least one more season…

  218. mbplekfan says:

    You cant put Gomez on the fourth line. It causes too many problems. The rest of the veterans will never stand for it. Gionta, Gill, Hamrlik, Spacek, Halpern…You cant humiliate a player like Gomez and expect it to go well.

    Then you have the embarassment to the mgmt. Bob Gainey still has a role with this club and Gauthier was his asst when they traded for Gomez. Putting him on the fourth line is not going to help you out with the owners.

     

  219. lafortune says:

    Well, allow myself to introduce….myself.

    I’ve been a long time reader ~2yrs+ (Im almost more a fan of this site than the habs themselves, its a real social plethora of characters, many with better grammer and many with wittier witts than the rest of us, and for that I must say thank you. I not only get to satisfy my cravings for all knowledge habs related, but I get to bear witness to perhaps one of the best undocumented Soap Operas ever.) :)

    Whew, too many brackets for one post.

    I like scratch that, Love the Canadiens. I have been a fan since birth (Thanks dad!) and I had the fortunate opportunity to see a few games at the Forum when I was still in Novice. It was an unbelievable experience, they tied the Islanders 3-3… As years went on I remember being entertained and disappointed both at the same time. I was convinced at one points (circa the Habs vs. Bruins in the playoffs of 2009) where I was convinced the NHL was rigged similarly to a reality television show, just because Mr. “Best Hair and Bucket ever Kovalev” was more of a movie star to me, as a Quebecer and Montrealer, than anything I had really ever seen before. He was plastered and postered EVERYWHERE. I had to know more about this machine they called Les Canadiens. I have been educating myself since, obsessed with every aspect of the game. I try to really stay on top of Stats, Cap Info, Prospect and other auxiliaries, to improve my vision of the sport, league and our team! Mostly just from reading, and observing..

    I’m glad to be making this decision to perhaps join in on this spirited conversation! I hope my stay is welcomed here! I bring youthful optimism (I’m 22), and myself having played somewhat competetively for 10 years of my life, have a pure love for the game. It’s hard for me to see the wrong in any aspect of the game. Don’t get me wrong, I love the feeling of winning. But like any other cultural or artistic undertaking (Its a sport!!) , the thing I love most is just relaxing and enjoying it. No Hating is perfect.

    Love,

    Your newest Member
    Alexander

    p.s my grandma’s last name was/is Lafortune. Hence the name! :)

     

  220. dancevon says:

    Love your lines man! I would definitely have to agree with ya on your line selection!

  221. SeriousFan09 says:

    Welcome, always nice to have another passionate fan around.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  222. port elgin says:

    Well Lafortune, this site does not need your positive attitude. Unless you can name at least 2 overpaid bums on the Habs and give 2 names of people that should be fired every post then don’t bother.

  223. HardHabits says:

    I beg to differ. Gomez himself has already stated that he is a team player. That his stats are meaningless as long as the team is winning. That 4th line I would put out against the opponent’s top line as a shut down line. You seem to forget Bob Gainey’s role when he was a Hab.

  224. Bugs says:

    Always nice to welcome new folk.

    Right, let’s get you started, Alex, shall we?: You’re totally wrong and you don’t know what you’re talkin about. Have you ever even WATCHED a game? Thank gosh YOU’RE not the GM.

    Please enjoy your time with us, mate!

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  225. JD_ says:

    Welcome, Alex.

    Your exuberance is duly noted.

    Keep yer head up and wits about you. Stay the course. A thousand points of light.

    The “Love” thing is a hair creepy.

    Cheers.

  226. lafortune says:

    Thanks for the warm welcome guys!

    I’ll refrain from making any posts of significance until I figure out how this “blog” thing works, and until I can nail down some sort of jargon to incorporate into my posts. This is my first blogging experience. Be gentle.

    Alexander.

  227. andrewberkshire says:

    Gomez is struggling, and he’s many things, but I agree with you. I don’t think he’s a primadonna. In fact the biggest asset of Gomez that I see on this team is that he’s an excellent guy in the room, and the team loves him. I think he would be frustrated to be demoted for a bit, but understand it and not cause a fuss.

  228. HardHabits says:

    So does Auld play Friday?

  229. andrewberkshire says:

    Sorry, but have you been watching him? He’s certainly not a revelation, but he’s also playing a position he’s not used to. He’s gotten very little time on the PP in two games, and at even strength he’s had several good chances, and he’s been winning battles along the boards. I’ve seen nothing from Weber to complain about in this callup.

  230. andrewberkshire says:

    I hope so HH. Just so Price can take a breather.

  231. Chuck says:

    Take away stellar goaltending from any team’s equation, an they’re on the outside looking in.

    Centre Hice: puttin’ on the foil

  232. Cookies says:

    How I despise dirty plays like that.

  233. Chuck says:

    I’d take Microsoft, because after that panned out I’d have enough money to buy the entire Brazillian women’s beach volleyball team.

    Centre Hice: puttin’ on the foil

  234. Chuck says:

    I still can’t figure out how a slash to a guy’s junk isn’t a penalty.

    Centre Hice: puttin’ on the foil

  235. Watsatheo says:

    Couple of gifs I’ve recently made some may enjoy:

    Eller/Briere incident edit: http://i55.tinypic.com/353d28p.gif

    Subban/Cherry/Richards on respect: http://i51.tinypic.com/2j3qjrd.gif 

     

    (non edited originals:http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1400234/eller-o.gif and http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5900/chellimpg.gif)

  236. HabsTrueBlue says:

    Take away most team’s MVP (right now Price is the Habs MVP) and that team will most likely be on the outside looking in.

  237. Clay4bc says:

    As nice as this sounds, it is merely a pipe-dream. The sole reason that the Stars want to (possibly) get rid of Richards is to shed salary, and they don’t want to re-sign him. Taking on 3 more years of the Gomez contract (*sigh*) is out of the question here, especially since Richards is a UFA after this season.

    Unless the Stars hire Mile Milbury as GM – then all bets are off…

    __________________________

    I had some hockey taglines, but I don’t know where the puck I put them.

  238. Bill says:

    Overpaid Bums = Gomez and Hamrlik, who should fired = Martin and Gomez, obvi. Do I still get to post?

  239. andrewberkshire says:

    It’s actually not quite as much of a pipe dream as you might think, since Gomez’s salary goes down to 5.5 and 4.5 million in the last two years of the contract, the cap hit could allow the Stars to hit the cap floor while shedding salary, and keeping a fairly competitive roster.

  240. VancouverHab says:

    Welcome, lafortune: felicitous name, by the way! Lokking forward to your posts.

     

     

  241. VancouverHab says:

    Thats funny — that’s exactly what I think of Gomez! It’s why I like him so much. (& we both agree, I think, that when he is on is game he’s a massive contributor: like last year’s playoffs.)

  242. VancouverHab says:

    HFS72–that’s a brilliant post. Wish I’d have made it! A classic.

  243. VancouverHab says:

    True of many teams.

  244. Da Hema says:

    Creative and funny!

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  245. Johnny_D says:

    Guys, go easy on Jeff.  What if he’s also a Cubs fan? We could send him over the edge by leafing at his Laffs.

    It’s OK Jeff, let it out. Don’t keep it inside, it’s bad for you…

  246. HabsFansince49 says:

    Excellent blog! I like Andrew Berkshire’s analysis of the Gomez situation. Just a question: if the Leafs can bench “superstar” Phil Kessel for a period, why can’t Mr. martin bench or demote Gomez? 

    I don’t pretend to be an expert; just a die-hard Habs fan passing my opinion

  247. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Anyone know if Danny Kristo is still eligible for the US team?

  248. JohnBellyful says:

     

    This just in from Heuters …

    MONTREAL – Hab coach Jacques Martin says the constant harping of critics drove him to seek help for depression but even then he couldn’t escape criticism.

    “I called Suicide Prevention. They tried to talk me into it,” Martin said today at a press conference called hastily to announce the team’s latest line combinations. When he revealed his new No. 1 line – Lars Eller, Tom Pyatt and Yannick Weber, none of whom has scored this season – reporters peppered him with questions about how his sanity was holding up.

    Not well, Martin admitted, revealing he’s been troubled with dark moods since he was young.
    “My parents sent me to a child psychiatrist. The kid didn’t help me at all,” Martin said. “When I was a kid, all I knew was rejection. Even my boomerang never came back!”
    Family life got so bad that when he told his mother he was going to run away from home, she replied, “On your mark.”

    Martin said that when he became coach of the Ottawa Senators, he relied on counselling to keep depression at bay and it worked for awhile until Patrick Lalime signed on with the team.

    He tried a new form of therapy by agreeing to coach the Florida Panthers and the diminished expectations gave him freedom to explore the full range of his psyche. Martin emerged a new man and put his stamp on the club, which missed the playoffs three straight seasons.
    Martin said being chosen to coach the Montreal Canadiens was a dream come true and when the team advanced all the way to the Eastern Conference finals, he figured he had left his emotional baggage behind for good.

    The Habs’ quick start this season gave him reason to feel upbeat. But instead he’s getting beat up in the press, on talk shows and on websites over his line juggling. Even joggers have joined bloggers in letting him know how unhappy they are.

    “Last week my tie caught on fire, and some guy tried to put it out with an axe,” Martin said, tugging at his tie and glancing back and forth around the room for possible assailants.

    Martin made it clear that he intends to stick with the new lines – Gomez has been relegated to making pre-game end-to-end rushes – until the second intermission, when he’s scheduled another press conference.

     

    “A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants.”

  249. Mattyleg says:

    …and that’s right, he’s here all week, ladies and gentlemen, from 6 to 6:12 every night here in the Piano Lounge.

    Please enjoy the cocktail sausages, and don’t forget to tip your waitress!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  250. Danno says:

    So…..

    How’s that write-in All-Star vote campaign for Scott Gomez going?

     

    This just in. Jacques Martin launches his modeling career.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  251. Bob Dobbs says:

    Is it technically possible to put Gomez in the minors? If so, do you think the management will ever have the guts to do it?

  252. The M says:

    they’ll do it when they sign Brad Richards this offseason

  253. Josh says:

    How is Moen still in the top 6? lol..

     

    It’s like Carbo’s love for the Koivu, Ryder, and Higgins line but worse because Higgins was at least a 20 goal scorer.

  254. BJT says:

    Hey guys. I was wondering, could one of you stats people look up some of the more offensive players stats under JM with previous teams? It’d be interesting to see what sort of numbers people like Alfie & Heater put up with JM & “the system”.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry..
    ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  255. andrewberkshire says:

    Heatley never played for Jacques Martin. And Spezza only played for him as a rookie. It also has to be kept in mind that JM only coached Ottawa before the lockout, so the numbers for star players were a bit weaker.

    Hossa put up 75, 66 and 80 points for JM in his last 3 seasons. 32, 31 and 45 goals respectively. +38 over that time.

    Alfredsson put up 70, 71 and 78 points. 24, 37 and 27 goals respectively. +29 over that time.

    Havlat put up 49, 50, and 59 points in his first 3 seasons in the NHL under JM. 19, 21 and 24 goals. +21 over that time.

  256. The M says:

    I hope the Habs waive Gomez. Not now, but after the season, unless they find a way to acquire Brad Richards, then waive Gomez during this season…

     

  257. Mike Boone says:

    How about Forget the PhotoShopping, Dennis?

  258. andrewberkshire says:

    Martin also got 60, 59, 70 and 54 point seasons out of Radek Bonk.

  259. Duracell3 says:

    If I remember correctl the Sens were one of the highest scoring teams in the NHL under Martin, could be wrong though.

  260. andrewberkshire says:

    You are correct.

  261. adam76 says:

    When is this franchise going to realize that Eller is not ready for the NHL?  His development is being held back – he needs minutes, something he can only get in Hamilton.

  262. JSP1990 says:

    He looked pretty darn ready last night. The kid needs a winger and more minutes up here and he deserves the way Gomez has played as of late.

  263. twocents says:

    I actually think the organization has made a deliberate change to how they bring young players along. This sort of thing,  playing less minutes and on third or forth lines, with very little offensive expectation seems like a deliberate stage. Honing the defensive game before asking more of them. I think this is what is happening with Pouliot too. There is long history to this type of approach and I am happy to see patience become part of the mentality of this organization again. There is a bridge step between excelling in the A, to playing regular minutes in the NHL. Taking time with this step will create the type of players who are well-rounded and have long careers. It is in direct opposition to the approach taken with Pacioretty and D’Agostini. 

  264. Mattyleg says:

    When are people going to stop asking rhetorical questions??

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  265. olematelot says:

    Have you even watched him play, he’s more than ready, I’d love to see him with 2 top wingers

  266. JSP1990 says:

    I was eatting pork chops and clicked that Mr. Boone. Suddenly not so hungry anymore.

  267. JSP1990 says:

    I really do think Gomer will come out of this slump. But what happens if he doesn’t? Loan him to Europe? Waiver wire? And if so, who takes his place?

  268. habguy says:

    it’s a career slump.

  269. LA Loyalist says:

    Youpi.

     

     

  270. HNS says:

    Now that they are knocking down the Spectrum in Philthydelphia, where will Philly fans go to the bathroom???

  271. habzfan2003 says:

    When will the Markov news be released? Didn’t he meet with his Dr. earlier?

  272. Maksimir says:

    Yeah! Whither Markov?

  273. SeriousFan09 says:

    We’re waiting on the doctor’s evaluation that is happening today, I’ll post the moment I get anything from a reliable source.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  274. HabFanSince72 says:

    GO HABS GO!

  275. savethepuck says:

    Shaking up lines too much.  Let some people get some chemistry with each other.

  276. Maksimir says:

    I like that setup – glad to see Darche back in.

  277. Timo says:

    What happened? No Weber?! Oh no… I though he was excellent, bordering on brilliant. All the offense and most importantly PP goals he generated. Yeah, it was not clear from the start that Weber as a forward would be a bust.

  278. StevieRay says:

    That’s better partnar.. you must of found your wallet and got some Java and a biscuit into you !!

  279. HabFanSince72 says:

    When the Toronto media refer to Habs fans sucking by not supporting their team, etc … they’re talking about you.

  280. smiler2729 says:

    Yannick Weber is and always will be an AHLer. Him being up is a waste of a spot which could be for Carle, Nash or Pacioretty

  281. JD_ says:

    Damn it angers me when you make a whole lot of sense, $0.02.

  282. twocents says:

    I’ll try to keep my posts to a minimum then, JD.

    We don’t want you to have to take time off due to stress.

  283. JD_ says:

    Ok, thanks then, although time off is not really a pressin’ issue for me.

  284. twocents says:

    I meant time off from the site, JD_.

  285. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I still like my lines better…

    AK46/Pouliot-Pleks-Gionta
    Pouliot/AK46-Eller-Camms
    Darche-Gomez-Lapierre
    Moen-Halpern-Pyatt

    I don’t understand Moen on the 2nd line, as he has been there for a while now…WTF!

  286. fuhgawz says:

    weber = useless

    don’t miss him in the line up at all he is a career AHL player at best as far as i can tell he has no drive to play with the big boys.  an impact player he is not nor ever will be. 

  287. SLONCOLD says:

    how can you judge this after like 2 games lol does gomez have more drive?

  288. terrygain says:

    I wish Martin would switch Moen and Pouliot. Otherwise, it looks good. 

  289. jimmy shaker says:

    Switch Eller for Moen and everything will be fine……and go out and get MAB while your at it PG!

    Shaker

  290. SLONCOLD says:

    i can see it now..

    option 1:

    ” that hack tony was wrong and an idiot and here is the real report…”

    optionn 2:

    ” that hack tony was lucky and guessed and here is the official report… “

    :-p

  291. HFX-HabFan says:

    Stubbs? Is that you?

  292. SeriousFan09 says:

    Why give him credit for one of his stupid guesses at all? He once used his pharmacist for an evaluation of Markov’s back problem from February of last season.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  293. light_n_tasty says:

    What, the Gazette isn’t flying you down to Washington to inverview the Dr. personally?

  294. SLONCOLD says:

    well, i think you have to remember he is a reporter/entertainer so some times he’s going to joke about a few things. I still think he gets some decent stories and guests and has reliable sources. Sure he’ll be wrong about some things but the same can be said about any other analyst/reporter as well.

  295. SeriousFan09 says:

    I meant to write in everyone is still waiting and I’d post something when I got something directly off the Habs site or their Twitter but I’m writing like 3 different things right now and my writing perspectives got crossed. Happens more often than I’d like really. Hence the typos in Habs Future this month.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  296. fuhgawz says:

    2 games? Has Weber ever had an impact when he has been called up? Nope !

    as for Gommer … shoot him for all i care but with his contract we can not even afford the bullet to do so.

  297. RS says:

    Well, he’s now played 10 regular season NHL games over three seasons and played 3 playoff games for the Habs two years ago. So that makes 13, but who’s counting?

    Teams shouldn’t give up on 22 year olds that have shown they can be good offensive defencemen in the OHL and AHL. No guarantee that he will be an NHLer, but he is still a decent prospect.

  298. Bugs says:

    Gomie for V4?

    (gulp)

    Well, you KNOW they would take it…I’m just sayi…what? No? I mean, not even if…no? Yeah, but…n-no?

    Awww, whatever…

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  299. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    By “they”, I’m hoping you mean the Lightning, right?

  300. habs-hampton says:

    I’d do it in a second!

  301. db says:

    Hehe  so the coaches are using the excuse that eventually players are going to have to play together blablabla its a long season blablabla…. but really, aren’t we “in the business of winning hockey games”? 

    I’ve never played pro… or amateur, but I think I would get a lil frustrated in finding out I’m playing with new linemates every game… where’s the trust? 

    Of course, I haven’t been able to follow much hockey this year, so I’m not sure if other teams juggle as much as we do… haven’t heard from Boucher fans in a while, you guys still around?

  302. habs-hampton says:

    Gotta wonder?  Did Halak and the rest of the Habbies ruin Ovie?  He hasn’t been the same since last spring. Maybe he wakes up at night and sees Spacek and Hammer and Gorges and Gill hiding in his closet and Jaro is under the bed??  Hee Hee.

    I’m sure its temporary, but…

  303. Ton says:

    Here’s a question; could we not make a deal with a team to take Gomer in a trade like the rangers did with us. Very little in return ex. 3rd round pick for his salary and maybe we pay some of it!!!!

  304. ctony says:

    In 2006, NJ had to give SJ a first round pick to take Malakov off their hands.  Granted, Lou had to get under the cap, but still.  Plus, the only teams with real cap room for Gomez (Atl, NYI, Col, Edm, StL, Nsh, TB, Car, Phx, Fla, and Dal)  don’t have owners who would pay that much for players – let alone Gomez.  

  305. joeybarrie says:

    So here we are again, picking on everyone favorite whipping boy (well this months favorite anyway)…. It’s ok, cause I remember when it was Price. I remember when it was Gill, and I remember when it was MAB. Most of the players on the team will have their chance. ANY coach after ANY loss…

    So how often are we wrong about players and their talent?  Well to be honest…OFTEN. Just to start:

    Komisarek, Ryder, Price, Latendresse, Pouliot, Gill, Moore, Darche, Metropolit, S. Kostitsyn, Gorges, D’Agostini, Halak, Souray, Laraque, etc, etc….

    Try to remember people excel at certain times, people slump at certain times, and people do well with certain players and people do poorly with certain players.

    Remember PK has had 2 points in 11 games. Cammi went 14 games scoring only 1 goal. Pleks has ZERO points in his last 3 games. So does AK, and has 4 points in his last 12 games. Gio has zero points in his last 3 games too, and started the season with 3 points in 13 games.

    In the end we are a good team. We are 4th in the league. We haven’t gotten ALOT from our veterans in terms of production, Pleks and AK are the only ones playing to their contracts. We have some guys playing beyond their contracts. All that matters is that the Habs can beat ANY team ANY given night.

    Far cry from what some of the posters in here said the team would be doing.

    Lastly, you know when you use terms like ALBATROSS you mean that this player is bringing the team DOWN. When the team is playing above expectations, maybe you should reconsider your view and opinion.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  306. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Hey come on! None of that, glass half full stuff, this is HI/O!

  307. ctony says:

    The Habs can beat ANY team ANY given night, when Price averages a SV% around .948.  At which point, we could call up the Bulldogs to play in front of him, let me coach the team and accomplish that.  We need a coach who can adapt to different teams, find and stick with line combinations that work and determine a roster that scores more consistently than our highest paid players.  

    or – is that too much to ask?

  308. RJB says:

    Habs need to go full Breezer 

    “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
    - Bilbo Baggins

  309. SeriousFan09 says:

    Nothing like trading an underperforming car for one that’s falling apart and the lease is twice as long.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  310. Storm Man says:

    You would take on 7.7 mil for 7 years with a player made of glass? I will have a double of what you are drinking.

  311. habs-hampton says:

    I meant I’d do it in a second if I was TB.

  312. Storm Man says:

    The GM in Tampa maybe new but I dont think he is high.

  313. Storm Man says:

    I guess Gomez is this years whipping boy, You would think with all this banter is was April 2011. Take a drink go do some christmas shopping. Wow who is next Cammy? 

  314. Timo says:

    He’s been a bum in too many games too.Who else you got?

  315. joshua94k says:

    Jacques Martin is one lucky guy. Whenever he is stumped, all he has to do is log onto Habs Inside Out for coaching ideas. Toe Blake and Scotty were stuck with just radio talk shows.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  316. ctony says:

     

    Great, Jacques is changing his lines — again.  Yawn.  It’s
    same top 6 group we had last year, playing the same JM system — counter
    attack and rely on incredible and unsustainable goaltending (thanks MathMan for
    the statistical point of view).

     

    Show of hands, other than Plex (who had an uncharacteristically
    off night last night) who would you rely on to score when we need a
    goal????  Yeah, that’s what I
    thought.  And, it speaks volumes about our
    top 6 and their lack of consistent scoring. 

     

    This season we average .91 goals per game in losses and 3.33
    goals per game in wins.  Last year in the
    playoffs, we averaged 1.5 goals per game in losses and 3.5 goals per game in
    wins.  Dear god, we’re actually
    backsliding here. Which means we are even more reliant on Carey to stand on his
    head to win us games. 

     

    MathMan’s full post about Carey was that we CAN win games when
    Carey has a sub .900 SV%.  Let’s go to
    the videotape.  Nope.  These are the five games where Price had a
    pedestrian sub .900 SV%,

     

    .875 lost to Toronto 3-2, add your own commentary here 8-9-3

    .842 beat Ottawa 3-0
    when they were struggling, 10-10-1

    .850 lost 3-0 to New Jersey, 6-13-2

    .857 beat the
    Islanders 5-3, one of the worst teams in recent history, 4-12-4

    .875 lost 3-0 to Columbus, good and underrated team, 13-6

     

    That’s 2-3 in five games against teams ranked: 5, 21, 24, 29, and 30 (average rank 21.8).  Forgiving the loss to number five ranked, Columbus,
    we went 1-3 against some pretty bad teams when Carey’s SV% was sub .900.  Oh oh. 
    Not much hope against top teams when our goaltending isn’t lights out.

     

    On the other hand, Carey’s record in games when his SV% is
    above .900 is: 10-4-1 with a GET THIS, 1.74 GAA, .948 SV% four shut outs.  Totally out of control – and, likely
    unsustainable.  The average rank of teams
    we played in those 15 games, 16.1. 
    Proving, again, that we only win when he stands on his head. 

     

    Of course, that’s not surprising when you consider that, we only won one playoff game last year when
    Halak had a SV% under .943
    (Halak had .919 in 4-3 win over
    Pittsburgh). 

     

    The cast of characters is the same.  And, looking at the data, it’s difficult to
    find any empirical evidence supporting the notion that Martin has radically
    changed they play, so… I can’t see how we can expect different results (over
    the long haul) doing the same thing over and over with the same people.

     

     

  317. Mark C says:

    No one wins much when their goalie has a sub .900 SV%, last season Ryan Miller won 4 of his 41 wins with a sub .900%, Tuukka Rask only won one such game. While this is an interesting stat, I have a hard time see its importance or any correlation to how Martin has the team playing.

  318. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    Wouldn’t Price’s SV% be 1.00 in the 3-0 win against Ottawa? Pretty sure when you shut the other team out, you stopped every puck.

  319. Storm Man says:

    Price was called a bum on here by many last year also. G-love will be fine just needs to find his game. I just look at his contract as a gift from santa. The team is doing well let’s not just toss one player under the bus.

  320. Storm Man says:

    The coach under the bus could be fun times.

  321. Bugs says:

    Yep.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  322. ctony says:

    Good point, sub .900 would be worse than 30 other goalies.  When we lose, Price has a lousy SV% and we average under 1 goal – suggesting a pattern.  Those seem to be the games where we can’t cross the offensive blue line with speed, then dump it in, change lines, fail to forecheck and end up getting hemmed in our zone for long stretches.  It’s a miserable strategy that JM falls into (although, IMO less this often year than last).  I’d like to see JM change strategies (or lines) during those games to find a different way to win. 

     

     


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