Tinordi spurns Irish for Knights: report

The Toronto Sun reports that Canadiens draft pick Jarred Tinordi is headed to the Ontario Hockey League’s London Knights, after having committed to play for the University of Notre Dame Irish.

• Julie Veilleux’s nice synopsis of the Canadiens’ off-season moves.


  1. Keith says:

    I think Bob Gainey really hit a home run when the Habs got Josh Gorges.He’s one of my fav’s on the team. Very honest player.

  2. Say Ash says:

    Thanks, buddy, I hadn’t seen them yet, although I came across a site that was still selling discounted Lang and Kostopoulous t-shirts for $18 – down from $20!

    Josh Gorges – lives in the Okanagan, plays for the Habs, might even become captain. What a nice life he’s living – apart from the odd puck to the head.


  3. RGM says:

    You mean like this? http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg16/RGM81/Josh%20Gorges%20PC/IMG_7089.jpg They already do!

    Awesome little story about Josh – he really takes his hometown pride seriously and does a lot of work in the community in Kelowna during the summer. As you can see below, he’s got my vote!

    Josh Gorges for Captain!

  4. GuyDoon says:

    Jimmy Bonneau

  5. JasonM says:

    So you mean Stephan Lebeau?

  6. JSP1990 says:

    Yeah I’m with ya on LL becoming more of a scorer. It would be nice to have a big time French-Canadian scorer again huh?

  7. JSP1990 says:

    That is one heck of a cross! lol

  8. observer says:

    Nothing to make of it except a great decision for both players to futher their hockey careers.

  9. ProHabs says:

    He is Mike Richards with more class.

  10. The Cat says:

    How can anyone not like Josh Gorges?


    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  11. habsnyc says:

    That’s a nice thought. Can you prove it?  Top prsepects, or overseas picks or college players don’t always play in the minors.  I’m not sure that more players graduated over the past few seasons than in prior seasons.  looking to the mid-late 90’s many players graduated from fredricton to montreal – asham, bordelau, bouillon, brasher, bure, conroy, rivet, robidas, savage, theodore and tucker all graduated from the AHL to the NHL, in the mid 90’s they mdae the AHL finals twice.  montreal gave up more draft picks over the prior four seasons than they did in the 90’s.  which should mean that the team has fewer raw prospects today than it did 15 years prior.

    It is very subjective to say that there is now a team mentality.  Prospects always want to play for the NHL team. I’m not sure how that changed.  Sure there have been some overseas prospects who did not want to come to the NHL but that is a function of playing style, money and culture.  In terms of the prospects being “top flight,” that’s subjective and the best players are never prospects, they make the team right out of the draft. 

    the “phenonemon” of graduating more players to the NHL each year is also a function of the salary cap.  there are more free agents this season looking for work than any time in the past 20 years. league wide, teams due to salary cap restrictions are forced to use young cheap players because of top heavy salary structures.  every gomez contract or laraque buyout means the team can’t keep a halak or a metropolit becaue there is no money for them. 

    I am totally willing to agree with you, if you can provide some proof to back up your statement. 

  12. punkster says:

    Apparently you forgot something about JT. He’s a cross between The Most Interesting Man in the World and the new Old Spice guy. An everyman’s every man. He takes over where Breeze left off and MAB never started.


  13. Say Ash says:

    I really wanna rock a Gorges t-shirt this year. I hope they stop printing the Pouliot shirts for a few minutes and make some with #26.

  14. Chorske says:

    Haha, as you know, I was just messin’. 😉

    I agree that there is a LOT to like about him, and I do hope he ends up being more of a scorer than a playmaker. We have so many of the latter and so few of the former.

  15. JSP1990 says:

    Lol! Thanks for the responses guys! I love the way the kid sounds, but I don’t plan on callin him the next Gretzky or anything! I do however think the kid looks very promising. Pity I can’t watch Junior games, but you better believe I won’t miss the WJC if he maks it in!

  16. scrowe21 says:

    Right onn.. I would rather have Gorges as the captain, but I dont see him being named captain with only one year left on his contract..expecting it to be gionta.

    ——–If you play nhl10 for xbox360 add me – scrowe21

  17. Chorske says:

    Haha, I almost went full MEH on that one, but John Hodgman would disapprove.

  18. Chorske says:

    Whoo eee! Where have YOU been? We’ve been working on this question for DAYS now. We’re looking at a future captain, top-soring-net-crashing-power-forward-with-soft-hands-and-a-killer-mean-streak, game changing, cup hoisting, wonderkid who is also going to cure cancer, end world hunger, solve the middle eastern crisis, and in his spare time he’s going to invent a time machine and go back and prevent the Lennon, Kennedy, and Gandhi assassinations.

    Or, as I prefer to put it, we’re looking at a kid in his first season in the Q. 😉

  19. D Alcorn says:

    Had an opportunity to chat briefly with Josh Gorges about an hour ago – his off-season home is in Kelowna and he was out to support the city’s bid for the 2015 Canada Winter Games.  

    I asked him if he will be the next Captain of the Habs (bit of a loaded question) and he responded with a combo of humility and professionalism, saying that he is focused on working hard to be 100% ready for training camp.  I also asked if he pays attention to sports media, including HIO : yes to the former, because he is a sports fan, and no to the latter (not a bad thing given some of the negative nonsense that passes thru here).  Anyhow, for those of you who support # 26, I took the liberty of telling him he has lots of support at HIO, where he is seen as a hard worker, and wished him well for 2010-2011.

    One of his former high school teachers here is a friend who commented last winter that Josh is a ‘quality’ individual who used to show up for class when his status as a Rocket could have justified otherwise.  He is headed back to Montreal in a few weeks – good for the Habs, and good for their fans.  Just passing this along …

    ALWAYS Habs –
    D Mex

  20. punkster says:

    Oh no, now I don’t know what to make of this. I’m so confused! (curls up into a ball a whimpers in the corner)


  21. Chorske says:

    The biggest upside of the exchange is that now, hopefully, we get to meet the real Andrei Kostitsyn.

    Seriously, those brothers. They were like the anti-Sedins: horrible for each other.

    Another upside: a dude to boo heartily on an otherwise likeable Nashville team.

  22. SeriousFan09 says:

    I wouldn’t say power forward, he plays with grit from scouting reports but he doesn’t look to demolish the opposition, seems more of a playmaker with a scoring touch.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  23. scrowe21 says:


    ——–If you play nhl10 for xbox360 add me – scrowe21

  24. JSP1990 says:

    So what kind of player are we lookin at with Louis Leblanc? I mean like a playmaker or a Power Forward?

  25. HabFanSince72 says:

    Nielsen wasn’t good enough a player and not good enough of a goon. If you’re going to be a one dimensional thug you’d better be a Boogaard-category thug.

  26. habinypsi says:

    You must be happy with Boyd taking 17.

  27. DCos says:

    1. Beginning

    2. No

    Whining, sniveling, complaining, negative “fans” annoy me. BG, PG and CP bashers….take a hike!

  28. Chorske says:

    Thanks Andrew!

  29. likehoy says:

    source? i don’t remember hearing the habs were interested…i just heard that belanger was interested in the habs.

  30. Top Corner says:

    True , iam pumped to see Schultz as well , thanks guys….was wondering about that guy….damm

  31. Mark C says:

    Thanks for pulling that all together B.

  32. Psycho29 says:

    Oh my God you just don’t give up do you?????

    LOL…Actually I agree 100%

    Give me last year’s team and the prospects of this year’s team over the underachiever’s of a few years ago before the Gainey purge….

  33. Tighthead says:

    Hockey wise it makes sense, I get that.  I just don’t like junior teams poaching.  I know there is no rule against it, I just don’t like seeing it.  Once a kid plays one game of junior, the NCAA doors are closed, so asking a kid to turn his back on that just seems offside to me.

    I know that major junior hockey is a much cleaner operation than it was in the old days.

  34. andrewberkshire says:

    Habs were interested in him, but not at the price he was asking.

  35. Chorske says:

    Can someone remind me if the Habs were one of the teams interested in Eric Belanger?

  36. likehoy says:

    baha, unicorninsideout…nice one


  37. mbplekfan says:

    How can I not be optimistic?

    We traded a surplus #1 goalie for Plekanec, Eller and Schultz.

    We drafted someone over 5 ’10.

    We have a budding allstar joining the blue line corps.

    We have 1/2 the teams salary cap coming up for renewal.

    We have our centremen locked up for a few years and chemistry is starting to form.

    It’s great to be looking towards the future instead of plugging holes with veterans on the downside of their careers.

  38. observer says:

    Looks to me like Gauthier’s fingerprints are all over both Leblanc and Tinordi suddenly changing their NCAA hockey plans and deciding that Canadian Major Junior A is the best way to learn the game. As a person who has knocked many of Gauthier’s past moves these are 2 great decisions, especially so as so many of Habs top draft picks in recent years from US colleges never attained the talent level envisioned for them.

  39. Chorske says:

    Agree 100%.

  40. likehoy says:

    i’d wish…want to see the team in action already!

  41. GuyDoon says:

    I’m pretty sure they just resigned him this summer.

  42. RS says:

    The Habs got Boyd in the Skost trade, but he is really the replacement for Metro. He’s a younger version of Metro, a decent forth line centre. He is not going to be an impact player. And no he is not particularly big or nasty.

    Sergei is much more talented and was sometimes an impact player, unfortunately the impact was as often negative as positive.

  43. K-hab25 says:

    It happens all the time in baseball and use to in basketball, before the age rule change. Guys commit to schools and then change there minds and go pro frequently. Theres nothing the schools can do about it, nor should there be. They’re not slaves, the schools don’t own them. If you were going to college and decided one day you didn’t want to anymore, that is your right.

  44. B says:

    I didn’t mean to offend you. My comment was directed at the thread of discussion and not you alone.

    I just think that prospects are all fine and good, but until they actually become valuable NHLers, they are only prospects. A lot can happen between being a good looking prospect and actually becoming a valuable player on the Habs. It is fun to follow the development of prospects, but how many of those prospects mentioned above will actually end up as valuable Habs? Will they be a lot better than those they might end up replacing? Will they make Montreal a better team than they are now? I am just not so sure about that. So while I too enjoy following the prospects and see a lot of potential in some, I am not going to get “very excited” about them until some of them become productive Habs (and I hope they improve the team). It is far from a sure thing that those prospects listed will soon transform Montreal into an NHL powerhouse. More likely they will continue to be about the same level of team overall.

  45. likehoy says:

    thanks for clearing that up!

  46. RS says:

    Wasn’t tin man Pierre Turgeon’s nickname?

  47. RS says:

    I don’t think Jimmy Bonneau has been in the Habs system for a couple years. There is Andrew Conboy in Hamilton. Neither one has an NHL career in front of them.

  48. Mark C says:

     The notion of having a unidimensional tough guy cluttering up our cap space.

    Exactly, using a line-up spot or two on a one-dimensional tough guy for the sake of having an intimation presence is an utterly waste. It’s all about having a few tough guys who can fight and log minutes, think Neil, Lucic, Ott, Clarkson, players of that ilk. Even if Montreal doesn’t have a player like that in the line-up yet, wasting a spot on a one-dimensional fighter still does not out-weigh the cost of carrying that player over someone who can play.   

  49. Psycho29 says:

    Why? What team are we trading him to???

  50. Ian Cobb says:

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  51. OldGrover says:

    I see this all over the place – this is probably the single biggest misconception about the CBA.  The contract you sign has nothing to do with whether or not you need to sign waivers.  The only thing that determines that is a combination of your age / number of years in NHL / number of games you’ve played in the NHL.   One way vs two way only influences whether they have to pay you NHL numbers in the AHL.

  52. Chorske says:


    Do you mean nickname– or porn name?!

    For the record, my porn name is Smokey Marcil.

  53. Chorske says:

    …on the bench

  54. Storm Man says:

    Is it Oct 6th today?

  55. Chorske says:

    To be fair to Mark C (nice stats mark!), you DID say in your original post: who is going to drop them? Hence his emphasis on fighting.

    I should think the Laraque experiment would have turned us all off the notion of having a unidimensional tough guy cluttering up our cap space. The key is overall toughness, and in that regard, I don’t think we do too badly. Plus: some big guys are coming up the pipe. Big guys with jam, or sand, or grit, or whatever. So count me not worried.

  56. lenny says:

    Well, it’s beging to look like Auld may start the season

  57. B says:

    I don’t know that the quoted scouts actually requested anonymity, not a big deal. Again, I hope Hunter’s very positive quotes are the most accurate. It would be great to have a D prospect with his size who is a strong skater and gifted offensively. Even if his offensive upside does not pan out, a big, tough, stay at home D man is always a useful asset in the NHL.

    I became curious and did some searching:

    Very solid defensively and tough. Skating is fine. He probably does not have the puck skills to be a two-way defender at the NHL level, however.

    NHL Central Scouting’s Jack Barzee
    “He skates very well for a big guy. He has an excellent shot from the point. He’s a pretty smart player. The head’s there, the hands are there, the shot’s there, the skating ability is there. He’s got a real, real cannon for a shot.”  
    U.S. Under-18 head coach Kurt Kleinendorst
    “For Jarred to be at his best, he just needs to be steady. He’s very intelligent, keeps himself in good position and is capable of making the first pass. And that should and probably always will be the foundation of what will bring out the most in his game.”

    Scouting Report

    The Good – Tinordi is a towering presence on the ice. He is a physical stay-at-home defenseman that could become a top-four defenseman if he develops his game. He skates well for a big man and has been blessed with some very good mobility that allows him to make some athletic plays.

    He is a natural born leader, which is evident by him being the captain of the USNTDP U-18 team this season and the U-17 team the second half of last season. His leadership will help him develop into an everyday NHL player.

    The Bad – Tinordi has very limited offensive skills and he won’t be much of a point producer when he makes it to the NHL. He has a decent shot from the point but he is more of a defensive defenseman.

    He plays with great intensity but it sometimes gets the best of him. He needs to learn to keep his emotions in check and avoid taking dumb penalties. He plays a physical game but he sometimes puts himself out of position to make a check. He needs to learn when to play physical and when he needs to stay in position.


    ETA = 4 years
    Risk-Reward Analysis: Risk = 1/5 Reward = 4/5
    NHL Potential: Shutdown Physical Defenseman
    * Intimidating size and reach
    * Solid defense
    * Toughness and grit
    * Good skater
    * Makes accurate first passes out of his own zone
    * Leadership
    * Physicality and plays with an edge
    * Hockey intelligence
    Flaws/Aspects He Needs To Work On:
    * Puck-handling skills
    * Speed
    * Continue to train to add strength and mass to his impressive frame


    Tinordi has all the intangibles that would excite any scout. He’s huge and has great leadership abilities as he is wearing the “C”. Tinordi also seemed aware on the ice and has good hockey sense….defensively. Offensively, Tinordi struggled on the point as well. In addition to the blocked shots, Tinordi clearly does not have the agility that his fellow defenseman have. Tinordi is an awkward skater without good balance and footwork. He will need to improve upon his skating and puck skills when he’s at Notre Dame. He’s clearly a project that if he works out, will be a force on an NHL blueline. There is just a lot of work to be done.


    Red Line Report 2010 Draft Guide on Tinordi:

    “Massive stay-at-home rearguard with excellent character, bloodlines, and leadership. Dependable, shutdown defender, always thinks defense-first, and his crease coverage is among the best of this class – colossal frame and nasty disposition form an impenetrable barrier between opponents and his goalie. Readily protects teammates and will drop the gloves. Reads and reacts to plays well at the defensive end. Effectively closes his man off to the wall and staples him there. Only has one gear, but shows functional mobility for a big man. Uses long stick/reach to break up lots of passes. Settles things down when team gets in trouble in its own end. Difficult to beat in 1-on-1 situations down low in puck battles or off the rush.”

  58. Chorske says:

    Out! OUT!

    There is no room on HIO for this kind of optimism!!

    Better keep that positivity under wraps or some poster is going to tell you to go blog on unicornsinsideout.com…


    PS I agree.

  59. Robert L says:

    Nielson never signed an NHL or two way contract, therefore his current status is that of an AHL free agent.


  60. habstrinifan says:

    Judge Judy never said you cannot be held liable for a verbal contract. Nor has she said all verbal contracts are binding. She has made the distinction on her show before on which type of verbal contracts are valid and which are not. There is a legal term, which I cannot think of now, which she used to identify the latter. I may be mistaken, but if I am recalling correctly, one of the more interesting and certainly “good to know” examples of a ‘non valid’ verbal contract is that involving a sub-lease agreement. A landlord, even if party to the verbal contract, cannot go after a sub-lessee but of course can go after the original lessee.

  61. SeriousFan09 says:

    I don’t think Nielsen was traded, they just let him walk. They signed another guy, Bonneau for HAM who pretty much does the same thing, plus they acquired Schultz who can actually skate.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  62. Top Corner says:

    OK , i had someone on here correct me when i said that we had a tough guy in Eric Nielson with the bulldogs…..and that he was traded away…..i CAN NOT find anything about this so called trade online…..if anyone cares enough to send me a link confirming this,  it would be appreciated !!  The guy is a cannonball….. i remember last pre-season vs. Ottawa , he fought 3 times before getting ejected…and did well vs. chris niel too…..hope he’s still an option. If not , here’s hoping Schultz will fill the void. 



  63. SeriousFan09 says:

    At 6’6″ and already weighing in at 215, it is probably safe to say he will have a punishing check when he uses it against the opposition. The key is for him to have good passing skills as well so he can effectively clear the puck and get it to the forwards so the team can work the transition game. There are plenty of giant defencemen who can hit, but the ones that effectively send the puck up the ice are more valuable. I’d love for him to give out devastating hits, but if the team is trapped in their own end because he can’t handle the puck than it’s an issue.

    Komisarek had a weak pass and it led to Markov putting on extra work and wasted time as Komi always passed to him to get things going. if Tinordi can make that pass on his own, it’s good for the team.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  64. Morenz7 says:

    Youtube footage from dev camp shows a good skater for a kid that size. With time and development, I think he’ll be as good as Komi in that department.

    Puckhandling? Not so much. He’ll want to concentrate on good first passes and controlling it along the boards.

  65. mbplekfan says:

    I remember the wasteland of the Canadiens farm system. No top end players, spectacular flame outs, few if any depth players available…

    Now we have a system that is graduating players to the NHL every year. We have top flight prospects in our system and a team mentality starting to take hold through our development camps.

    Our prospects want to play for the Habs and feel like part of the organization. Subban will be the premiere graduate this year, White might also make it.

    Carle and Weber are very close.

    Pacioretty and Schultz will be knocking on the door pretty soon.

    All in all a much improved situation over 15 years ago.

  66. habstrinifan says:

    When you look at our collection of D men ( with the big team and prospects) I want him to get raves for his last BIG HIT rather than his strong first pass.

  67. WarHero says:



    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  68. mrhabby says:

    lol…its in my own words..lol

  69. puck face says:

    i think stating that a kid has work to do before he can makes the pros is kind of obvious. his father had a strong work ethic and that’s usually passed down from father to son so i’d be surprised if he doesn’t make the nhl but i just wish he was like a foot taller and maybe 300-350 pounds of pure muscle and it would be nice if he found time to become a chess master while simultaneously reading ‘the art of war’ until he knows it by heart. he should also work in a soup kitchen once a week to balance out his meaness on the ice and while he’s there learn to speak french from the homeless to the point where he masters the language and writes poetry about all things Quebec. i think i’ve covered the little things he needs to do before habs fans consider him a decent hockey player.

  70. TomNickle says:

    Verbal contracts can be binding but what legal action would the University of Notre Dame take against an 18 year old kid who decided to go a different route?

    What are they going to go after, his lunch money?


  71. Mark C says:

    My read is this, his skate is good considering all factors, such age, size, level of play etc. but, he will need to improve it if he hopes to become a great NHL player. This is true of all prospects, or at least 99% of them need to improve their skating. Stick handling and puck skills sound like this greatest weakness, thankfully this can be improved.

  72. adamkennelly says:

    fighting no but but being able to respond to physical play yes – Minn had John Scott and Boogie on their team last year – didn’t not fight cause they had no fighters – but cause these guys had no takers.  Minny lost Boogie and Scott and replaced them with Staubitz and Nystrom.  Most teams in this league understand the need to have players who can be physical and hold oppoenents accountable for physical play.  Habs are in the vast minority not having anyone in their projectd opening day line-up who fits that role.  Habs have small skilled guys and zero players who can hold opponents accountable.  Push over team to play and its going to be a problem.  I think before the end of the year – something will be done. 

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