Tinordi spurns Irish for Knights: report

The Toronto Sun reports that Canadiens draft pick Jarred Tinordi is headed to the Ontario Hockey League’s London Knights, after having committed to play for the University of Notre Dame Irish.

• Julie Veilleux’s nice synopsis of the Canadiens’ off-season moves.

580 Comments

  1. Mark C says:

    Thanks for pulling that all together B.

  2. Psycho29 says:

    Oh my God you just don’t give up do you?????

    LOL…Actually I agree 100%

    Give me last year’s team and the prospects of this year’s team over the underachiever’s of a few years ago before the Gainey purge….

  3. Tighthead says:

    Hockey wise it makes sense, I get that.  I just don’t like junior teams poaching.  I know there is no rule against it, I just don’t like seeing it.  Once a kid plays one game of junior, the NCAA doors are closed, so asking a kid to turn his back on that just seems offside to me.

    I know that major junior hockey is a much cleaner operation than it was in the old days.

  4. andrewberkshire says:

    Habs were interested in him, but not at the price he was asking.

  5. Chorske says:

    Can someone remind me if the Habs were one of the teams interested in Eric Belanger?

  6. likehoy says:

    baha, unicorninsideout…nice one

     

  7. mbplekfan says:

    How can I not be optimistic?

    We traded a surplus #1 goalie for Plekanec, Eller and Schultz.

    We drafted someone over 5 ’10.

    We have a budding allstar joining the blue line corps.

    We have 1/2 the teams salary cap coming up for renewal.

    We have our centremen locked up for a few years and chemistry is starting to form.

    It’s great to be looking towards the future instead of plugging holes with veterans on the downside of their careers.

  8. observer says:

    Looks to me like Gauthier’s fingerprints are all over both Leblanc and Tinordi suddenly changing their NCAA hockey plans and deciding that Canadian Major Junior A is the best way to learn the game. As a person who has knocked many of Gauthier’s past moves these are 2 great decisions, especially so as so many of Habs top draft picks in recent years from US colleges never attained the talent level envisioned for them.

  9. Chorske says:

    Agree 100%.

  10. likehoy says:

    i’d wish…want to see the team in action already!

  11. GuyDoon says:

    I’m pretty sure they just resigned him this summer.

  12. RS says:

    The Habs got Boyd in the Skost trade, but he is really the replacement for Metro. He’s a younger version of Metro, a decent forth line centre. He is not going to be an impact player. And no he is not particularly big or nasty.

    Sergei is much more talented and was sometimes an impact player, unfortunately the impact was as often negative as positive.

  13. K-hab25 says:

    It happens all the time in baseball and use to in basketball, before the age rule change. Guys commit to schools and then change there minds and go pro frequently. Theres nothing the schools can do about it, nor should there be. They’re not slaves, the schools don’t own them. If you were going to college and decided one day you didn’t want to anymore, that is your right.

  14. B says:

    I didn’t mean to offend you. My comment was directed at the thread of discussion and not you alone.

    I just think that prospects are all fine and good, but until they actually become valuable NHLers, they are only prospects. A lot can happen between being a good looking prospect and actually becoming a valuable player on the Habs. It is fun to follow the development of prospects, but how many of those prospects mentioned above will actually end up as valuable Habs? Will they be a lot better than those they might end up replacing? Will they make Montreal a better team than they are now? I am just not so sure about that. So while I too enjoy following the prospects and see a lot of potential in some, I am not going to get “very excited” about them until some of them become productive Habs (and I hope they improve the team). It is far from a sure thing that those prospects listed will soon transform Montreal into an NHL powerhouse. More likely they will continue to be about the same level of team overall.

  15. likehoy says:

    thanks for clearing that up!

  16. RS says:

    Wasn’t tin man Pierre Turgeon’s nickname?

  17. RS says:

    I don’t think Jimmy Bonneau has been in the Habs system for a couple years. There is Andrew Conboy in Hamilton. Neither one has an NHL career in front of them.

  18. Mark C says:

     The notion of having a unidimensional tough guy cluttering up our cap space.

    Exactly, using a line-up spot or two on a one-dimensional tough guy for the sake of having an intimation presence is an utterly waste. It’s all about having a few tough guys who can fight and log minutes, think Neil, Lucic, Ott, Clarkson, players of that ilk. Even if Montreal doesn’t have a player like that in the line-up yet, wasting a spot on a one-dimensional fighter still does not out-weigh the cost of carrying that player over someone who can play.   

  19. Psycho29 says:

    Why? What team are we trading him to???

  20. Ian Cobb says:

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  21. OldGrover says:

    I see this all over the place – this is probably the single biggest misconception about the CBA.  The contract you sign has nothing to do with whether or not you need to sign waivers.  The only thing that determines that is a combination of your age / number of years in NHL / number of games you’ve played in the NHL.   One way vs two way only influences whether they have to pay you NHL numbers in the AHL.

  22. Chorske says:

    TORRID JABRONE?

    Do you mean nickname– or porn name?!

    For the record, my porn name is Smokey Marcil.

  23. Chorske says:

    …on the bench

  24. Storm Man says:

    Is it Oct 6th today?

  25. Chorske says:

    To be fair to Mark C (nice stats mark!), you DID say in your original post: who is going to drop them? Hence his emphasis on fighting.

    I should think the Laraque experiment would have turned us all off the notion of having a unidimensional tough guy cluttering up our cap space. The key is overall toughness, and in that regard, I don’t think we do too badly. Plus: some big guys are coming up the pipe. Big guys with jam, or sand, or grit, or whatever. So count me not worried.

  26. lenny says:

    Well, it’s beging to look like Auld may start the season

  27. B says:

    I don’t know that the quoted scouts actually requested anonymity, not a big deal. Again, I hope Hunter’s very positive quotes are the most accurate. It would be great to have a D prospect with his size who is a strong skater and gifted offensively. Even if his offensive upside does not pan out, a big, tough, stay at home D man is always a useful asset in the NHL.

    I became curious and did some searching:

    http://www1.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/jarred_tinordi
    Very solid defensively and tough. Skating is fine. He probably does not have the puck skills to be a two-way defender at the NHL level, however.

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospectdetail.htm?dpid=2574&tab=scr
    NHL Central Scouting’s Jack Barzee
    “He skates very well for a big guy. He has an excellent shot from the point. He’s a pretty smart player. The head’s there, the hands are there, the shot’s there, the skating ability is there. He’s got a real, real cannon for a shot.”  
    U.S. Under-18 head coach Kurt Kleinendorst
    “For Jarred to be at his best, he just needs to be steady. He’s very intelligent, keeps himself in good position and is capable of making the first pass. And that should and probably always will be the foundation of what will bring out the most in his game.”

    Scouting Report

    The Good – Tinordi is a towering presence on the ice. He is a physical stay-at-home defenseman that could become a top-four defenseman if he develops his game. He skates well for a big man and has been blessed with some very good mobility that allows him to make some athletic plays.

    He is a natural born leader, which is evident by him being the captain of the USNTDP U-18 team this season and the U-17 team the second half of last season. His leadership will help him develop into an everyday NHL player.

    The Bad – Tinordi has very limited offensive skills and he won’t be much of a point producer when he makes it to the NHL. He has a decent shot from the point but he is more of a defensive defenseman.

    He plays with great intensity but it sometimes gets the best of him. He needs to learn to keep his emotions in check and avoid taking dumb penalties. He plays a physical game but he sometimes puts himself out of position to make a check. He needs to learn when to play physical and when he needs to stay in position.

    http://thehockeywriters.com/the-hockey-spy%E2%80%99s-2010-nhl-entry-draft-prospect-profile-%E2%80%93-jarred-tinordi/

    ETA = 4 years
    Risk-Reward Analysis: Risk = 1/5 Reward = 4/5
    NHL Potential: Shutdown Physical Defenseman
    Strengths:
    * Intimidating size and reach
    * Solid defense
    * Toughness and grit
    * Good skater
    * Makes accurate first passes out of his own zone
    * Leadership
    * Physicality and plays with an edge
    * Hockey intelligence
    Flaws/Aspects He Needs To Work On:
    * Puck-handling skills
    * Speed
    * Continue to train to add strength and mass to his impressive frame

    http://www.thescoutingreport.org/usntdp-u18-2010-draft-prospects/

    Tinordi has all the intangibles that would excite any scout. He’s huge and has great leadership abilities as he is wearing the “C”. Tinordi also seemed aware on the ice and has good hockey sense….defensively. Offensively, Tinordi struggled on the point as well. In addition to the blocked shots, Tinordi clearly does not have the agility that his fellow defenseman have. Tinordi is an awkward skater without good balance and footwork. He will need to improve upon his skating and puck skills when he’s at Notre Dame. He’s clearly a project that if he works out, will be a force on an NHL blueline. There is just a lot of work to be done.

    http://www.und.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/062510aaa.html

    Red Line Report 2010 Draft Guide on Tinordi:

    “Massive stay-at-home rearguard with excellent character, bloodlines, and leadership. Dependable, shutdown defender, always thinks defense-first, and his crease coverage is among the best of this class – colossal frame and nasty disposition form an impenetrable barrier between opponents and his goalie. Readily protects teammates and will drop the gloves. Reads and reacts to plays well at the defensive end. Effectively closes his man off to the wall and staples him there. Only has one gear, but shows functional mobility for a big man. Uses long stick/reach to break up lots of passes. Settles things down when team gets in trouble in its own end. Difficult to beat in 1-on-1 situations down low in puck battles or off the rush.”

  28. Chorske says:

    Out! OUT!

    There is no room on HIO for this kind of optimism!!

    Better keep that positivity under wraps or some poster is going to tell you to go blog on unicornsinsideout.com…

    ;)

    PS I agree.

  29. Robert L says:

    Nielson never signed an NHL or two way contract, therefore his current status is that of an AHL free agent.

    http://forums.habsworld.net/index.php?showtopic=21996

  30. habstrinifan says:

    Judge Judy never said you cannot be held liable for a verbal contract. Nor has she said all verbal contracts are binding. She has made the distinction on her show before on which type of verbal contracts are valid and which are not. There is a legal term, which I cannot think of now, which she used to identify the latter. I may be mistaken, but if I am recalling correctly, one of the more interesting and certainly “good to know” examples of a ‘non valid’ verbal contract is that involving a sub-lease agreement. A landlord, even if party to the verbal contract, cannot go after a sub-lessee but of course can go after the original lessee.

  31. SeriousFan09 says:

    I don’t think Nielsen was traded, they just let him walk. They signed another guy, Bonneau for HAM who pretty much does the same thing, plus they acquired Schultz who can actually skate.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  32. Top Corner says:

    OK , i had someone on here correct me when i said that we had a tough guy in Eric Nielson with the bulldogs…..and that he was traded away…..i CAN NOT find anything about this so called trade online…..if anyone cares enough to send me a link confirming this,  it would be appreciated !!  The guy is a cannonball….. i remember last pre-season vs. Ottawa , he fought 3 times before getting ejected…and did well vs. chris niel too…..hope he’s still an option. If not , here’s hoping Schultz will fill the void. 

     

     

  33. SeriousFan09 says:

    At 6’6″ and already weighing in at 215, it is probably safe to say he will have a punishing check when he uses it against the opposition. The key is for him to have good passing skills as well so he can effectively clear the puck and get it to the forwards so the team can work the transition game. There are plenty of giant defencemen who can hit, but the ones that effectively send the puck up the ice are more valuable. I’d love for him to give out devastating hits, but if the team is trapped in their own end because he can’t handle the puck than it’s an issue.

    Komisarek had a weak pass and it led to Markov putting on extra work and wasted time as Komi always passed to him to get things going. if Tinordi can make that pass on his own, it’s good for the team.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/


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