Timmins gets contract extension

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At least one member of the Canadiens’ Old Guard will be around for a while.
Trevor Timmins, the team’s director of procurement and player development, has had his contract extended.
The Canadiens also have announced the hiring of Donald Audette, who will scout Quebec for the team, and Mark Mowers, who has joined the pro scouting department.

Timmins, 44, is beginning his 12th season with the Canadiens. He runs the club’s amateur scouting department and is the architect of  the Canadiens’ recent success at the draft table.

Timmins came to the Canadiens from Ottawa. During his 10 years with the Senators, Timmins rose from the scouting department to become the team’s director of hockey operations.

Timmins has a phys ed degree and an MBA from Queen’s University. He also has a master’s in sports administration from the University of Ottawa.

Donald Audette, who’s 43, played 14 seasons with six NHL teams. During his three seasons with the Canadiens, Audette played under head coach Michel Therrien.

Audette is general manager of the Collège Esther-Blondin Midget AAA team. He is a frequent guest on L’Antichambre and proud father of Daniel Audette, who starred for the midget team and was the Q’s first overall draft choice, going to the league’s new Sherbrooke franchise.

Mowers, 38, played 278 NHL games with four teams. He has also played professionally in Switzerland and Sweden.

Mowers was most recently a between-periods analyst on NESN’s telecasts of Boston Bruins games.

Here’s the official release from the Canadiens on the news:

MONTRÉAL (August 17, 2012) – Montreal Canadiens Executive vice president and general manager, Marc Bergevin announced today the contract extension of Trevor Timmins as director of amateur scouting. Terms of the agreement were not disclosed. The Club also announced the appointment of Donald Audette as amateur scout in Quebec, as well as Mark Mowers as professional scout (Eastern Conference).“The Montreal Canadiens organization is very proud of the work that Trevor Timmins has done in terms of player scouting and development over his time with the team, and we are very happy to count on his services for years to come. We agree with Trevor and his group on the necessity of adding an amateur scout in Quebec, and we are pleased to welcome Donald Audette, who will now occupy this position for the team. Donald has vast experience to lend to the position, both from his NHL/Canadiens playing days and from his time in a management role in the Midget AAA circuit, where he added to his knowledge and skills through his involvement with Hockey Québec and Hockey Canada ” said Montreal Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin.

Trevor Timmins, who completed in 2011-12 his 11th season with the Canadiens, is responsible for overseeing and directing the Canadiens’ amateur scouting system, including the annual NHL Entry Draft and amateur free-agent recruitment. Under his guidance the Canadiens have drafted, among others, Alexei Emelin, Max Pacioretty, Carey Price, P.K. Subban, Yannick Weber and Ryan White. A native of Almonte, Ontario, Timmins started his career as a manager in the NHL in 1992 with the Ottawa Senators.

Donald Audette enjoyed a 15-year career in the NHL, suiting up for six teams, including three with the Canadiens from 2001 to 2004. Audette played 735 career games totaling 509 points (260 goals, 249 assists) and 584 penalty minutes. He also participated in 73 playoff contests, recording 48 points (21 goals, 27 assists) and 46 penalty minutes.

Donald Audette played his junior hockey with the Laval Titan in the QMJHL between 1986 and 1989, recording 309 points (141 goals and 168 assists) in 199 games. Drafter in the ninth round, 183rd overall by the Buffalo Sabres at the 1989 NHL Entry Draft, he began his professional hockey career at age 20 with Buffalo’s AHL farm team, the Rochester Americans. He played one full season with Rochester before making it to the NHL in 1990-91.

Now 42, Donald Audette will begin in 2012-13 his third season with the Phénix du Collège Esther-Blondin in the Ligue de hockey midget AAA du Québec, as governor and general manager. Very involved within Hockey Québec and Hockey Canada, he will serve as head coach of Team Québec at the 2013 World Under-17 Hockey Challenge, to be held in Victoriaville and Drummondville (Québec) from December 29, 2012 and January 4, 2013.

Audette was invited as a coach at Canada’s National Men’s Summer Under-18 Team selection camp, from last August 3 to 6 at the MasterCard Centre in Toronto.

In seven seasons in the NHL, Mark Mowers produced 62 points (18 goals, 44 assists) in 278 regular season games. Born in Decatur, Georgia, the centre suited up for Nashville, Detroit, Boston and Anaheim. Now 38, Mowers retired from hockey after the 2010-11 season, as a member of Fribourg-Gotteron of the Swiss National League.

173 Comments

  1. J Haul says:

    To Un Canadien,
    I don’t like the idea of helping loudmouths like Burke out of the mess he created by letting him outspend everyone else BUT…

    Your system makes a ton of sense for everyone (even the luxury tax part).

  2. boing007 says:

    Speaking of religion I much prefer the Egyptian Pharaoh who worshipped the Sun. He knew what was cookin’.

    Richard R
    Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  3. DoomsdayDarrin says:

    SO, The man responsible for passing up Ryan Getzlaf, Corey Perry, Mike Richards, Jeff Carter, Zach Parise, and others, moved Up in the draft to pick David Fischer when Claude Giroux was still available..That Trevor Timmons gets a contract extension. Maybe That explains our standing last season.

    gary smith

    • kempie says:

      I’m not sure if you’re serious or not but you understand how the draft works right? 17 other teams passed on Getzlaf. 27 other teams passed on Perry. 23 passed on Richards. It wasn’t just the Habs. Picking a winner is very easy using hindsight.

      Honestly, if there’s a better evaluator of talent in the league than Trevor Timmins, I’d be curious to know who that is.

    • darcy1 says:

      but he’s also the guy that drafted Carey Price, PK Subban, Ryan McDonagh, Max Pacioretty & Jaro Halak.

      with your logic, all scouting directors should be replaced every few years

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      – Jean Beliveau

    • OneTimer says:

      troll alert

      • nunacanadien says:

        Halak was great, hey, don’t forget the impact that Timmins had on the junior habs going all the way. Too bad we can’t convert Timmins success with the horrible signings by our respective GM’s. Sure we get great rookies, but honestly, imagine taking the world’s greatest goalie and pairing him up with Gomez?????

  4. Un Canadien errant says:

    Okay, let me see if this would work.

    Let’s take for granted that the NHL needs a salary cap to ensure some competitive balance and a level playing field, to avoid the situation such as exists in Major League Baseball where you have the Yankees and the Red Sox, maybe the Angels, and then everyone else. Let’s also assume that the players can live with a salary cap, as they indicated in their eminently reasonable proposal to the NHL owners this week, one that Gary Bettman predictably rejected with no real consideration.

    Let’s accept that the League is healthier if it has a broader footprint and teams in a lot of different markets, to a reasonable extent, so that it makes sense to support a Carolina or Florida team within reason.

    Let’s also accept that the NHL doesn’t have a player cost problem, since these costs are fixed at 57%, and this is guaranteed through the salary cap and escrow system. That’s what the owners kept trumpeting during the last lockout, that they needed ‘cost certainty’, that was their buzz-word, their double-speak for the uglier ‘salary cap’ term, and what they got a lot of fans on board with, cost certainty made sense to a head of a household who’s trying to manage a budget. They got their blessed cost certainty, so that’s not an issue right?

    Instead, the league has a low-revenue franchise problem. These are the franchises that are suffering and weighing on Gary Bettman’s mind, so much so that he wants to hammer down the players’ share of the revenue they generate to an absurd 43%, again it must be stated with little financial evidence that this is necessary.

    So how about we do this (and I say ‘we’, because I pay for these revenues, the money doesn’t just materialize out of thin air, so I have a stake in this):

    We leave the players’ share of HRR at 57% as agreed the last time the owners deprived us of NHL hockey for an entire season. We leave the salary cap at $70M. The big change is that we eliminate the salary floor, to no longer require the weak sisters from spending money they don’t have. Instead of forcing them to pay $50M they swear they don’t have, let’s allow them to sink down to $45M, $40M, heck even $30M if need be.

    Wait, there’s more. Don’t just sight that this has been bandied about before and it won’t work, because then we can’t guarantee the players’ share of revenue. We’ll get to that.

    In the system with no cap floor, we’ll have twenty or so teams that all have a roughly equal shot at contending for the Cup budget-wise. They’ll all be packed together near the ceiling. There will be eight or ten teams out of the running from the get-go, but that will be out of the team’s and market’s choosing. They won’t be forced to buy a couple of high-priced washed up veterans to reach an arbitrarily floor if they want to spend a couple of seasons developing their youngsters (I’m looking at you, Islanders).

    For those teams bumping up against the cap, we can use the NHLPA’s proposal of allowing them to purchase ‘cap credits’ from the weaker teams if they want, and for this they’d have to compensate them with a lower-round draft pick, and the league with a luxury tax that goes into an escrow fund. So in the Players’ proposal example, the Rangers flip a fifth-round pick to the Islanders for their $4M cap credit, and then pay out $4M to the escrow fund. In effect, the repugnant James Dolan will now pay two dollars for every dollar he goes over the cap.

    So in this system, most teams are in the running, three or four are beating their brains out by going over the cap, and there is a group of teams that uses the fiscal timeout to build a team through the draft and their fan base, until slowly they emerge as a power like Nashville did last season, hopefully with an energized fan base.

    At the end of the season, the players’ share of revenue is calculated. I would think that invariably this would work out to under 57% of HRR, at which point all teams top up player salaries a corresponding percentage from the escrow fund. For illustration only, let’s say that the players salaries amounted to 55% of league revenues, which means that their paycheques were roughly 3% too low. Now every player gets a cheque from the escrow fund bumping up their pay by three percent for the year.

    This can be a form of equalization. Let’s say that teams below the now completely theoretical floor contribute to the fund at a rate of a dollar for every two dollars that teams at the cap pay in, on a sliding scale so that a team at the midpoint would chip in a buck and a half. Maybe luxury tax teams chip in $2.5 for every buck by a salary floor team, something like that.

    On another matter up for consideration, let’s say entry-level contracts stay at the same two or three years duration. That system works. When a Steve Stamkos or Drew Doughty is a star player and major award candidate in their second or third year, it isn’t fair to ask them to be locked in for five years. They’ve paid their dues and deserve to be paid a higher wage after three. In the case of a player like Blake Geoffrion, for example, this player comes off his entry contract and makes roughly the same amount of money and tries to earn a higher amount in a subsequent contract by the dint of his play. Guys like Alexei Emelin and Raphaël Diaz earn a decent raise based on their decent play. Again, this works.

    Arbitration stays, if the players’ rights are owned by teams, they must have some power to negotiate, although maybe there’s a mechanism that spells out top end and bottom end salaries players can earn, based on objective criteria. It would be understood that the ‘homerun’ contract is the third contract, the second one is the bridge contract that pays much better but doesn’t max out unless you’re the aforementioned Steve Stamkos and reach a few objective targets.

    The players gave up a lot in the last round (24% rollback on salaries, people) in return for more freedom of movement, so I’m loath to take this away, but I believe the game is healthier when players stay with their teams longer and teams are more stable roster-wise. When the Minnesota Wild or Colorado Avalanche roll into town, I’d like to know that pretty much the same players are going to be in their lineup from year to year. It’s good for rivalries and team identity. Fans, especially children, respond well to that stability. I grew up with the same Canadiens, Expos and Alouettes year after year, and I’d prefer if the new generation had the same attachments to their heroes.

    So I would roll back the free agency eligibility criteria. It doesn’t make sense in the big picture for 26 year old players who are hitting their athletic peak to be able to desert their teams.

    For when the players do reach free agency, I would also create a ‘hometown’ hero system where a player can earn more money with his incumbent team than by shopping himself to other clubs. So the player would be allowed to move, but it wouldn’t be in his best financial interests on top of everything else. In a way, we’d be fostering more Joe Sakics and Daniel Alfredssons and discouraging mercenaries like Dany Heatley and Pavel Bure. I have struggled with the details of this, maybe the weaker teams are allowed to dip into revenue sharing or escrow money for this, but there has to be a way to prevent every star from ending up a Ranger.

    So there you have it. The players still take in 57% of HRR, maybe a little less if they’re in a generous mood/quaking in their boots at the thought of a lockout, there’s still a salary cap to ensure competitive balance, but not a floor that’s driving smaller market teams to bankruptcy. Super rich teams can appease their fans and competitive drive by going over the cap if they desire, and in doing so pay into revenue sharing through the luxury tax. An escrow system underpins this system, one which gives the smaller teams a breather.

    After three to five years or so, the League and PA can re-assess if the small market teams are using this breathing space to load up and climb back up the standings and payroll rankings. If not, and the situation is not likely to improve, then relocation can be considered, but without a gun to anyone’s head.

    Comments are welcome. Be kind when pointing out errors or fallacies. Good talk.

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  5. JayK-47 says:

    Timmins. The Hull Tech who keep the ship afloat despite several captains attempts to scuttle the HMCS Habitant.

    He deserves a GD medal.

  6. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Als down Our arch-nemesis, the Eskies, 38-28 …Calvillo is like a fine wine …D Coach, Jeff Reinbold’s D-line & linebackers starting to roll, but DBs & Special Teams are still vulnerable to big plays …Jim Popp continues to amaze how He finds depth players ready to play if a first-stringer goes down

    …and, even more fun was watching Vancouver’s Hastings All-stars defeat Mexico 13-9 in World Little League …great stuff :) …amazing plays, especially in the field
    …it was only a couple years ago My Son’s team missed going to the World Little League Championship by one dang run …THAT would have been memorable :)

    …Who said there is ONLY hockey ?

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  7. JohnBellyful says:

    Let’s face it, unless you’re UCE, Chris or Commandant, coming up with posts that are detailed, informative, insightful and articulate can be an arduous undertaking. Heck, that last sentence took me an hour to string together (and I’m too embarrassed to say how many crumpled computer screens I tossed in the waste basket before getting the phrasing just so).
    I’ll come right out and say it: Those three gentlemen have set the bar far too high for most posters to this site. And a large part of it is their annoying habit of bolstering their statements with facts.
    Facts. Who’s got time to look up facts! I know I don’t, not if it means taking time away from browsing People magazine’s online edition, or scouring the Internet for Batman comic book covers from the 1950s.
    I prefer to deal in imaginings, and I think most of us here share the same predilection. Why waste time looking up stuff when you can make it all up in your head.
    Sadly, however, here at the JB Gags, Spoofs and Song Parodies Emporium (“A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants”), we’ve had to downsize and lay off a great many brain cells (and some of them were none too happy, even though they haven’t been productive in years).
    Much of the emporium’s comic material will now be outsourced to members of the HIO community, domestic and foreign.
    This week’s assignment: come up with examples of, shall we say, questionable team expenditures, based on the setup provided, beginning with our beloved Canadiens (references to expenditures by past employees is fully expected and eligible for bonuses).

    Little more than two weeks ago the NHL handed over 76,000 pages of mostly financial information that the players’ association had requested. It’s taken some time for the union to sift through the data and only now are some of the more intriguing details emerging about the teams’ spending habits:

    • punkster says:

      The Montreal Canadiens today announced the launch of their highly anticipated Slush Puppies franchise, purchased for the exclusive use of team members only. General Manager Marc Bergevin was on hand to pour the first of what is sure to be many cooling and satisfying beverages served in the Habs dressing room throughout the coming season.

      “It’s something I understand our boys have asked for, dare I say demanded, over the past few years”, said Bergevin. “They’re a young bunch”, he went on to say. “They grew up playing and hanging around rinks over the past 20 or so years and Slush Puppies are part of their culture. Makes them feel at home, you know? Of course I would have preferred healthier choices myself but times have changed and, well, the whole carrot juice and vegan smoothie thing that previous management forced them to drink just wasn’t giving them that edge between periods.”

      As per club policy financial terms of the agreement with Slush Puppies head office were not disclosed but the start up cost of similar franchise operations in rinks across North America can run between $50,000 and $200,000.

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      John, you got your list of insightful posters in the correct order if you’ll allow a humble comment, but I’m going to have to disagree that I use facts in my posts, just a barrage of forcefully expressed opinions. By the time the august readers of this site have screened down four or five times, their eyes glaze over, they skip to the bottom, reply with a “Nice post”, and move on to more pressing Timo-isms.

      By the way, I saw you’re in Section 600 for the Summit. Let me know if you want me to bring my 10″ reflecting telescope. It’s got a wide field, stable tripod, you might find it comes in handy.

      I’m in Section 308, so close I’m told we may get hit by sweat!

      • JohnBellyful says:

        Your offer is most kind but I no longer have need to accept it. Upon closer examination it turns out my ticket is for Section .600. I’ll be sitting in Budaj’s lap.

        P.S. Maybe the september readers will have a longer attention span and read the entire contents of your posts. :)

  8. habstrinifan says:

    May already have been posted on the site. Predators signed Scott Hannan for 1yr 1mill.

    That would have been a good signing for Mtl.

  9. habstrinifan says:

    We have become old and comfortable when we can pontificate on questions of sacrilegious conduct at an edifice rather than simply shout against the injustice being meted out to three young people in Russia.

    Sometimes, even though helpless and inadequate, we should humbly but unequivocally ‘stand’ with those who stand for something.

    How brave they are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. Timo says:

    Audette? Really?! FFS, what other utterly useless player are they going to bring back?

  11. Rozz says:

    I got 2 things to say…
    1. congrats to Timmins, very happy about this!
    2. any one else seeing the absolute spanking the Alouettes are laying on the Eskimos right now? AWESOME!!!

    “When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.”

    Mark Twain.

  12. boing007 says:

    FREE PUSSY RIOT !!!
    That might take some doing, but I agree with your sentiment all the way.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP8tBT_Tf3I

    Richard R
    Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  13. Boomer says:

    Good on MB to extend Timmin’s contract, he was the one guy i was hopin would not be fired. Good news!

    Occupation: Professional Hedonist… aiming low and exceeding expectations ;)
    Hobo with a laptop

  14. EasternOntarioHabsFan says:

    Prust sure looks good in Blue-Blanc-Rouge………

    Who do you think his first victim will be????

    :)

  15. boing007 says:

    I still say that the Canadiens should invite Loïk Poudrier of the Cataractes to training camp. Not a superstar but a hardworking player.

    Richard R
    Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  16. Habitant in Surrey says:

    @UCe
    …Normand, I posted this below originally in the thread where Boone was threatening to return …I mean confirming He will return to write LiveBlog and ALN
    …don’t know if you saw it, so… I repost:

    ” @UCe
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNvcTQWdF9Q

    …Normand, I happenstanced on this movie on YouTube while in a JerryLee Lewis kinda mood :)
    …it’s called Elvis Meets Nixon
    …I think of You, because the movie reveals Nixon a Chargers’ fan and Elvis a Raiders fan :)
    …it’s an hour long, but a hoot ”

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    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I think I remember that movie being released, I’ll Google.

      It would make sense that a black-hearted man like Richard Nixon would be a fan of the Raiders though.

    • HabFab says:

      Just noticed your new ending to your signature. A little ironic considering your issues with Boone on that subject :)

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …You know Frank, You may be right
        …My foremost concern was ‘freedom of speech’ in Russia, and it’s fascist-like restrictions on criticizing Putin and the oligarchic mafia
        …but, Pussy Riot’s prosecution was based on using the church and religion to make their political points
        …I still object they be put in prison for it though

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        • boing007 says:

          That’s because the Russian Orthodox Church supported Putin in the last election.

          Richard R
          Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

          • Habitant in Surrey says:

            …yes, I know …from Pope Alexander VI of the Roman Catholic Church to the current Patriach of Moscow of the Russian Orthodox, to corrupt mullahs and rabbis …leave a bad taste for organized religion in My mouth …which is why I am not a member of a Church, but love the story of Jesus within on a personal level

            …notwithstanding I become very defensive when I see non-Christians and Christians defiling churches and the religion

            …it’s mores and values, despite it’s faults, realized our western-world as we know it …and, by the unstoppable flows from non-Christian regions of this world, it seems it has succeeded where other religions failed

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    • Curtis O Habs says:

      A pussy riot, and free non the less. You intrigue me. Putin tongue in cheek.

  17. Un Canadien errant says:

    The Slate article on the proposal by Chris Hansen to build an arena to house the resurrected Seattle Sonics, and maybe an NHL team if that would make more money than Lady Gaga concerts, is written by Neil deMause, who runs a great website called Field of Schemes, and has written a book of the same name. He follows pro sports owners and the way they extort public money to pay for stadiums for their private companies, and reports on the minimal benefits cities derive from investing in those money-makers for the rich.

    I highly recommend that site, everyone should bookmark it and visit regularly.

    http://www.fieldofschemes.com/

    ———————————————————————–
    This isn’t “Billionaires vs. Millionaires.” Only a willfully uninformed fool would apply that sloppy shorthand designation to this disgraceful power grab crafted by some of the wealthiest individuals and corporate entities in North America aimed against professional athletes.–Larry Brooks of the New York Post

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  18. Marc10 says:

    Props to management again for signing the best talent finder in today’s NHL. Bravo!

    I like Audette too. He gets it.

  19. Un Canadien errant says:

    Interesting back and forth between Habitant in Surrey and Commandant on whether the Canadiens focus not enough on scouting in Québec or not enough on scouting elsewhere, since the Canadiens draft enough players from the LHJMQ as it is.

    I think we’re arguing two sides of the same coin. For whatever reason, and I suspect it derives from the more tightly controlled management style of the previous régime, we plain didn’t have the front office staff that we needed, or even more plainly the staff that we could afford. In a salary cap world, the Canadiens have to use their financial might and other advantages creatively, since we can’t just buy free agents until the Panthers and Predators cry ‘uncle’.

    One of these areas is scouting. Since there’s no cap on spending on scouting, we should have many rather than fewer scouts. If the Blue Jackets can’t afford as many scouts as we have, or lose their talented scouts to us because we pay more, all the better for us.

    Another area we can capitalize on is a finger on the pulse of the hockey played in Québec. We should have relationships with the leagues and coaches and retired players that tip us off on a good lead once in a while, as Guy Carbonneau did by touting David Desharnais. If the Coyotes can’t derive the same advantage by tapping into the vast Arizona-New Mexico hockey-player-factory powerhouses, tough for them.

    So yes, the Canadiens weren’t investing enough in scouting in general. I’m glad that Marc Bergevin realized that and set about correcting this flaw this summer. We’ve seen the team beef up its scouting staff in pretty much every region.

    Yes, also, the Canadiens aren’t scouting enough in Québec. We’ve discussed before how up until a couple years ago, we didn’t even have a dedicated Québec scout, which is mind-boggling. If I’d been the owner, and knew of the success the Canadiens have had historically by snagging players in the second and third round like Claude Lemieux and Patrick Roy and Sergio Momesso and Stéphane Richer, I’m asking my GM why the heck we’re not doing that anymore.

    So let’s outwork and outspend every other team when it comes to scouting, and when it comes to the fourth or fifth round, let’s still have a really good list of players we like instead of throwing darts at the board. Let’s pick up more Brendan Gallaghers and Morgan Ellisses and Charles Hudons in the middle and late rounds, and accumulate assets to permanently set ourselves up for success.

    ———————————————————————–
    This isn’t “Billionaires vs. Millionaires.” Only a willfully uninformed fool would apply that sloppy shorthand designation to this disgraceful power grab crafted by some of the wealthiest individuals and corporate entities in North America aimed against professional athletes.–Larry Brooks of the New York Post

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …Normand, You are like The Guy at the next table in a Starbuck’s pretending to sip Your latte while listenin’ to the nearby conversation
      …to think, I thought this was a ‘private’ conversation between Ben and I :(

      Note Bene: …just keeeding :)

      …yes, Ben and I are basically observing and saying the same thing …except for Ben drafting from Quebec is no more important than drafting in Khazakstan :)

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      • commandant says:

        Yup, I`ll draft a player from Mars if he`s the best player available.

        Sure if everything is equal, the hometown boy sells more tickets, but very rarely, if ever, are two players ranked Equal.

        Go Habs Go!
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        • Habitant in Surrey says:

          …good, now We both know where We respectively stand
          …still enjoy Your significant contribution on HIO though Ben :)

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          …and, last, but not least: FREE PUSSY RIOT !!!

          • Boomer says:

            Gotta admit it would be cool to have a Letang, Giroux or Bergeron on our team. Not saying habs brass dropped the ball on that one, just saying it would be cool to have a local boy with those skills.

            Occupation: Professional Hedonist… aiming low and exceeding expectations ;)
            Hobo with a laptop

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          I think there’s a synergy available to our team by being the big dog in our own backyard, and raising a whole generation of little hockey players who dream of being a Canadien. This is a benefit that goes far beyond merely selling tickets. So you’re quite right that two players are never ‘equal’, and my leaning is that in that case we go with the homeboy.

  20. HabFab says:

    European Trophy hockey tournament is under way, Hab prospects did this today;
    – Kyle Klubertanz – one goal (1), one assist
    – Daniel Pribyl – two goals (1,2)
    – Magnus Nygren – one goal (1)
    – Sebastian Collberg – no points

  21. Wops says:

    I personnaly believe we have the NHL’s best scout.

    Really happy about this signing. He makes our team.

  22. HabFab says:

    Is this why Canada doesn’t do well at the Olympics;
    http://en.rian.ru/infographics/20120817/175279097.html

  23. otter649 says:

    When Donald Audette was a free agent he turned down a contract from Montreal & took one from Dallas for less money but within less than a year he was a Hab when Montreal traded for him…….

    • Thurston says:

      Since he spurned an offer from the Habs as a player in order to sign with an American-based club, Audette should theoretically get along well with new colleague Martin Lapointe. :)

  24. Ian Cobb says:

    CFL tonight I guess!
    So its the Alouettes and the Edmonton Eskimos at 9pm est.

  25. Bripro says:

    So Mowers is a scout for the Eastern Conference.
    Audette is a scout for Quebec.
    Lapointe and Briseby will be overlooking the rookies at both the ‘Dogs facility and as they’re promoted here.
    When you add Rick Dudley, TT (great signing IMO), Scott Mellanby, Boivin and Carriere at the team level, the new foundation seems far more solid than it’s been in years.
    And I do believe that we have scouting exposure on a global scale as well as locally, so this too is very encouraging.
    Tip of the hat to the new Habs.
    Just three things remaining:
    1. PK’s signing
    2. Settling the CBA
    3. The red carpet for the commentariat at the summit.

    • commandant says:

      I’d add more scouts in Europe as a 4th thing on the agenda, but that will get done too IMO.

      Go Habs Go!
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      • Bripro says:

        They have at least two, including one in Finland, correct?
        But you’re right, a few more (especially in Sweden and Russia) certainly couldn’t hurt.

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …Ben, agree with You on one or two more European scouts for Russia and Europe
        …on the subject of Quebec, Bergevin has convinced Geoff, or Geoff has convinced Himself, to dramatically increase the Habs’ investment in management support and scouting
        …Trevor did not previously have the scouting budget He has today …that increase should minimize lost opportunities like under-evaluating the ‘Claude Girouxs’ being selected rather than the ‘David Fischers’
        …with a more robust number of dedicated scouts for quebec and E. Ontario that ‘oversight’ will be minimized

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        • commandant says:

          More scouts on the ground were needed in all areas. If you hadn’t noticed we also hired scouts in Ontario, BC, and the United States this off-season. Overall our scouting operation was too small.

          That doesn’t mean Quebec was neglected, it means that all areas needed an infusion of scouts.

          It also doesn’t mean we are solely focusing on Quebec, we never have and we never will. In fact focusing too much attention on the Q right now might be a bad strategy as over the last 10 years the Q is not producing as many NHLers as other leagues.

          What the team has done and what I like is they’ve put more scouts in the rinks in all areas… this includes a new scout in the Q, but also includes increased scouting in BC, the Western US, Ontario, and all leagues, and thats what we are doing.

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          • Habitant in Surrey says:

            …Ben, no need to lecture
            …I am fully aware the scouting investment overall was lacking, especially for a ‘have’ franchise like the Canadiens
            …I accent on Quebec, because of what the Montreal Canadiens represent and it’s Legacy
            …I don’t care if the QMJHL is in a downcycle or not …first priority for the Montreal Canadiens is to have the scouting resources to identify whatever obvious or hidden gems that exist in Quebec, E. Ontario or the Maritimes

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          • commandant says:

            I don`t think you can focus on one area above the others.

            Yes we missed Giroux… thats true.

            But for every Giroux, there is the decision to take McDonagh over Angelo Esposito, or the decision to take PK Subban over Antoine Lafleur, or the numerous others.

            You absolutely need to know who is in Quebec, but that doesn`t mean you take the Quebecois over a better player from elsewhere.

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        • Ron says:

          Getting better scouting in place in eastern Canada is in IMO a major priority. Lots of hockey being played leading to the Q draft etc. Having DA in Quebec he will see all talent at the Major Midget AAA level which will give the Habs a heads up on player development prior to entering the Q or hockey in the USA at University level. Good move by TT.

    • habsavvy says:

      you forgot, getting some players.
      if yu had a good administration you still need good players to win.
      so for the moment, Bergevin has not gotten the needed players!

      • chelseafan says:

        agree- who is on wing with plecs and gio?

      • Bripro says:

        Let’s be honest, the team was in such dire straights, I don’t think they knew what they had or were lacking.
        You can’t run a decent company without a structured human resources and management team.
        I believe the same must be said for our favourite hockey team.
        As I said, they’ve laid down the proper foundation.
        I don’t think the team is as bad as they played last year.
        There’s no question that we still have a few weaknesses, but I think MB is taking the patient approach, which is wise, as opposed to blitzing to try and sign over-priced FAs.
        Let’s wait and see how the team performs, and then some strategic moves can be made after that.
        If that’s their approach, I think it’s prudent, astute and the right thing to do.

        • Habitant in Surrey says:

          …I think beyond the obvious re Bergevin et al, We have got to begin giving props to Geoff Molson
          …all these robust hirings in Management support and Scouting, costs BIG $$$s
          …We won’t be able to state His munificence will pay-off at this time, but I certainly recognize and appreciate the size of His gonads to put His bank account where His mouth is

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      • 24 Cups says:

        hs – No team leapfrogs from last place to contention in just one summer. It’s going to take time (again!).

        • kairos66 says:

          What would you call the 2007-2008 Flyers? Ribbit…Ribbit!

          Kairos66

        • neumann103 says:

          The 2011 New Jersey Devils were not in last place but they did leap upto more than just contention in going to game 6 of the Stanley Cup Finals. Of course part of this is that they were not really as bad as their 2011 record suggested.

          I am not saying the Habs will be contenders this year or even next. But you can make very good case that they area middle of the pack team who had an extraordinary run of bad luck, injuries and a management circus beyond belief, and that expecting them to be in that 5th- 10th range in the East is reasonable.

          And about once every 5 years or so, one of those teams wins the Cup.

          “Et le but!”

      • commandant says:

        You build from the ground up, right now we have in place.

        The management team, scouting, player development, etc….

        The four cornerstones of a franchise core in Price, Subban, Pacioretty and Galchenyuk are in place. Some compliments to that core are also in place. Now they need to fill gaps, but Rome wasn’t built in a day either.

        I don’t think anyone expects us to win the cup this season, but thats the long term goal.

        Go Habs Go!
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  26. Ian Cobb says:

    How did I miss that, former Leafs coach Ron Wilson is now Assistant coach of our Hamilton Bulldogs.???

  27. Ian Cobb says:

    So what did Don Fehr,
    have to say at the press conference???

  28. Bripro says:

    HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO READ THE CANADIENS’ ANNOUNCEMENT?
    (OK, settle down).
    …..need binoculars…. gees, it’s not funny getting old!
    Hey, Sears has a 2-for-1 on eyewear!

  29. Ian Cobb says:

    Autumn is sure in the air to-day in Belleville ON. Summer heat and humidity is gone.
    The 4 ice pad are being skated on at the Belleville Wellness Center. The OHL Bull’s camp is coming up.

  30. commandant says:

    Great news. Obviously Trevor is the foundation of our scouting department, and one of the team’s biggest assets.

    I really like the additional scouts they’ve hired overall this summer.

    One area that needs to be addressed is Europe. We could use two more scouts there.

    Go Habs Go!
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  31. HabFanSince72 says:

    Interesting article on the plan to build an entirely privately funded arena in Seattle, which would pave the way form an NHL franchise there.

    Some of the interesting tidbits are the absolutely scandalous amount of public money sports teams manage to extort from local governments (don’t tell Timmy T!), and the suggestion that you actually can’t make a profit from pro sports without suckling at the public teat. It appears that there are no sports arenas getting built without extensive public subsidies, despite the evidence that they generate very little revenue for their host cities.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2012/08/seattle_sonics_arena_is_chris_hansen_s_promise_of_a_no_strings_attached_sports_facility_too_good_to_be_true_.html


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …this will be great for the Vancouver Canuck market

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      • Bripro says:

        BTW Chris, thanks for the moral support last night after being moderated.
        The fact that you won’t sue me for plagiarism is encouraging.
        And I haven’t noticed but will you be down for the summit this year?

        • Habitant in Surrey says:

          …I must say I envy everyOne that has and will attend Ian’s Habs Fans’ Summit …and, would very much like to meet all of You that I have adopted as ‘etheral friends’ these past 4 or 5 years
          …My priorities at this time are My Kids, as You likely know,
          …’getting away’, especially at that time of year is difficult
          …if it was only Myself and 15 year old Son, it would be more ‘do-able’ …but, My 13 year old Daughter makes it impossible
          …hopefully, someday, if Ian still has the energy to keep this special event going, I will
          …it will give everyOne of You an opportunity to bellyache about My use of ellipses and choices of subject matter to comment on in HIO :) …while pouring a Guinness

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    • commandant says:

      The Air Canada Centre was entirely private funded, and I believe the the Bell Centre (formerly Molson Centre) was also entirely privately funded.

      Two teams making the most money in the NHL.

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  32. shiram says:

    Should Habs have gone for Hannan instead of Bouillon?
    He is bigger, younger and signed for less in Nashville.

    • mark-ID says:

      I hate to say it….but he isn’t french. Also, Therrien hasn’t coached him before(at least I don’t think)

      “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

    • joeybarrie says:

      There is a reason Hannan signed closer to the start of the season than when he became a free agent.
      There is a reason he is a last resort for Nashville, after losing Bouillon.
      I watched him play in Washington.
      Im glad we have Frankie.
      Hannan went from 4.5 to 1 million in one season. And then Calgary didnt see fit to re-sign him.
      And he did this while still in a hockey players prime, especially for a defenceman.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      … Bouillon and Therrien are the 2 moves I remain baffled about of Bergevin’s decisions so far
      …Bouillon ? …what was/is the point ?
      …but, Bergevin has made more decisions that I feel good about than do not

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    • Bripro says:

      Personally, I like the Bouillon signing.
      Frankie is small and getting up there in age, but he’s always played beyond his size, and he’s as strong as an ox.
      On top of it all, he always bled bleu-blanc-rouge so you can be sure that he’ll always give 110% on the ice. IMO.

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …with the less physical but offensively skilled D We have, I feel a larger more physical presense in front of Carrey is preferred over recycling an aging Bouillon
        …but, I haven’t watched Him for a few years …maybe Bergevin, Who has seen Bouillon up close in the Western Conference knows more than I ? :)
        …whether He can still be better than whom We already have will come out in the wash this coming season

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  33. Ali says:

    Thank you Andre Savard for hiring this man and to all those who followed who didn’t throw him out with the bathwater.

  34. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Audette a further encouraging sign that the Homeboys of Quebec will be a priority once again

    • bleedhabs81 says:

      Curious as to why Quebec homeboys are a concern? Do you think not enough emphasis has been placed on Quebec players? Did we overlook guys like Giroux because nobody was watching?

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        ” Do you think not enough emphasis has been placed on Quebec players? ”
        …NO !!! …as a matter of fact, I don’t …at least, over the past 10 to 15 years
        …that is now being prioritized and being given that extra attention it should have always had
        …do You have ‘a problem’ with that Matt ?

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        • commandant says:

          Since Trevor Timmins was hired, Montreal has drafted the 2nd most players from the QMJHL vs any team in the NHL over the same time period.

          Add to that guys like Louis Leblanc who was a USHLer when drafted, plus all our FA signings out of the Q like Desharnais and guys who didn’t work like Masse, Lefebvre, Delmas, and numerous others.

          And its tough to say that the one team in the entire NHL who has given the most Quebec based talent ELCs is neglecting the league or the province.

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          • Habitant in Surrey says:

            …Ben, Bergevin has convinced Geoff, or Geoff has convinced Himself, to dramatically increase the Habs’ investment in management support and scouting
            …Trevor did not previously have the scouting budget He has today …that increase should minimize lost opportunities like under-evaluating the ‘Claude Girouxs’ being selected rather than the ‘David Fischers’
            …with a more robust number of dedicated scouts for quebec and E. Ontario that ‘oversight’ would be minimized

            _________________________________________________________
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            Campaign to Retire Toe Blake’s Number 6 !!!
            …last, but not least: FREE PUSSY RIOT !!!

          • commandant says:

            More scouts on the ground were needed in all areas. If you hadn’t noticed we also hired scouts in Ontario, BC, and the United States this off-season. Overall our scouting operation was too small.

            That doesn’t mean Quebec was neglected, it means that all areas needed an infusion of scouts.

            Go Habs Go!
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            http://lastwordonsports.com/

  35. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …extending Trevor seemed like a given, …yet somehow was an enjoyable headline to wake-up to this morning on a par with extending Patches

  36. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Mowers Our revenge for the Bs selecting Malcolm ?

  37. HabFab says:

    RickMoffat- Another smart tho obvious move by Bergevin on Timmins. Just because you’re housecleaning doesn’t mean you toss family heirlooms.

    Good one!!

  38. blu_blanc_rouge says:

    You mean to tell me that Timmins started at 20 yrs as a scout in Ottawa?

    • joeybarrie says:

      Timmins started in the NHL in 1992. In Ottawa he has held the following positions. Scouting Coordinator, Strength and Conditioning Coach, Director of Team Services, and Director of Hockey Operations.
      Joined the Habs in 2002 and was probably the best thing Andre Savards did for the Canadiens.
      He was 24 when he joined the Sens.

  39. Ian Cobb says:

    You know!, Our Montreal Canadiens have gone out and hired a very competent GM. Great hire Mr. Molson!

    He has made a huge difference in bringing in more top quality hockey people to the organization, as well as retaining some of the very best that were already here.

    I believe that the old boys club has finally been dismantled and we have had a club heart transplant, that had been very sickly for many many years.

    This Mlt. organization is finally on the move to the cup at last.

    Does anyone know if Vaughn Karpin (western amateur scout) is still on our payroll? He is another great scout.

  40. HardHabits says:

    It’s no secret that when I was touting that Gainey, Gauthier and Martin needed to be gone that I also lauding the work of Timmins and had hoped that he would remain. So this extension is great news for me

    Fortunately the Habs are also seeing the necessity of having a competent pro scouting department too. An area that the former regime lacked.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      HH,
      I backed Gainey from day one. Scratched my head many times when it came to Carbo, Martin & Gauthier. But it was Bob after all, one of the best hockey players in his day. He was successful in Dallas and he was always a winner.

      I am not sure what happened to his decision making ability or if Gillette told him to pour everything into the 100 year festivities and never mind the future or not. But things went down hill quickly.
      Anyway, I do not want to dump on Bob as I have no idea what was behind close doors.

      All I know is that this management group has my juices flowing with excitement this year.
      No lock out please!!!!

  41. JUST ME says:

    Very good decision. I find it so unfair to read comments criticizing Timmins and what this guy has done when he is probably the best of his trade, Just go visit hockeydb and see how many of his choices have made it to the NHL and how many games they have played in the NHL. Do the same exercice for a few teams and you will soon see that he deserves to be treated as a real pro.

    It is not his fault if his players were traded or if the talents of his players were not developped properly. The simple fact that so many so called hockey experts on the second floor are gone and long gone and that new g.ms after new g.ms keep on trusting him clearly show that he is a breed apart.

  42. otter649 says:

    Nashville has signed Scott Hannan to a one year contract – Shows that they are going for speed on their backend with this signing & also re-signing Hal Gill……lol

  43. HabFab says:

    Don Fehr to have a press conference at 3 pm.

  44. Timmins is incredible at hos job, he deserves a new contract.
    Kostytsin, Lapierre, Obyrne, Halak, Streit, grabovski, emelin, chipchura, price, latendresse, d’agostini, Kostitsyn #2, ryan white, yanick weber, subban, pacioretty, mcdonough, leblanc.

    Kristo, brendan gallagher, morgan ellis, tinordi, beaulieu are all definitely going to make the nhl.

    this doesn’t include several players from the last 3 drafts who will take more time before making the nhl.

    if you include the 5 players who will definitely make the nhl he has drafted 23 NHL players!!

    in comparison, toronto has drafted 8 NHLers in the same time period!! that is if you include jiri tlusty as an nhler! it also includes kadri and frattin!

    incredible! 23 VS 8! and most of toronto’s 8 picks are barely nhlers.

    Detroit drafted only 4 nhlers in the same time period!! shocking!

    i heard from TSN radio that he BEGGED gainey not to trade away mcdonough, they got in a fight over that.

    i can’t wait for gallagher…he is the next gionta, probably our best prospect for this season.
    Telio
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    • SmartDog says:

      Hear! hear!!

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    • 24 Cups says:

      To be fair, if you count White, Weber and Leblanc as NHLers than you have to do the same for Tlusty.

      Beaulieu and Tinordi should be locks to make the NHL. The jury is still out on Kristo, Ellis and Gallagher.

      Kadri and Frattin aren’t that bad. Would Hab fans trade for either one of these guys? I would.

      As for Detroit, Jarnkrok, Jurco, Nyquist, Pulkkinen, Smith and Tatar would all look good on the Habs during the next few years.

      All in all, TImmins has done a great job. His only major hiccup has been Fischer and I thing it’s safe to say that every team would take a 1st round draft mulligan during the past nine years.

  45. SmartDog says:

    WTF?
    1. What has Timmins done?
    2. Building a scouting network in Quebec – why???

    Craziness! If PG were here none of this would be happening, none of it!!!

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  46. Trisomy 21 says:

    I call BS with the poll. I hardly believe half the people who voted would not buy tickets again. I remember people saying the same thing last lock out, but the fact of the matter is hockey fans love hockey too much to turn away from it. It’s not like Bettman reads these forums and will be scared into forcing the season to begin on September 15.

    Either that or they thought to themselves “I don’t go to the games anyways.” In which case they shouldn’t have even voted.

  47. Max_a_million says:

    MB has a solid week for sure.

  48. Hobie Hansen says:

    Great signing!


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