THN ranks Carey Price as No. 5 goalie in NHL

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In the Oct. 1 edition of The Hockey News, the magazine ranks the top 20 NHLers by position and only three Canadiens made the list.

Carey Price was ranked as the No. 5 goaltender, Max Pacioretty was ranked as the No. 9 left-winger and P.K. Subban was ranked as the No. 12 defenceman.

Taking the No. 1 spots in the position-by-position rankings were the Kings’ Drew Doughty (defence), the Rangers’ Rick Nash (right wing), the Penguins’ Evgeni Malkin (centre), the Wild’s Zach Parise (left wing) and the Kings’ Jonathan Quick (goalie).

Other goalies ranked ahead of Price were the Rangers’ Henriq Lundqvist, the Predators’ Pekka Rinne and the Devils’ Martin Brodeur.

Meanwhile, the dispute over the legality of the NHL lockout in Quebec goes back before an administrative tribunal next month. Brenda Branswell reports that the  Commission des relations du travail has called the NHL Players’ Association, the NHL and the Montreal Canadiens hockey club to a hearing on Oct. 15. Read more by clicking here.

In other lockout news, Dave Stubbs has a story on Erik Cole rehabbing a lingering injury. To read it, click here. There’s also a report that one missed paycheque during the lockout could cost New Jersey Devils star Ilya Kovalchuk $846,153.84. Read more on that by clicking here.

(Photo by Pierre Obendrauf/The Gazette)

128 Comments

  1. Nitroslices says:

    So “One missed paycheque during the lockout could cost New Jersey Devils star Ilya Kovalchuk $846,153.84”; my, my…..my heart bleeds. Let him get by with the paycheck he will get playing in the KHL.

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  3. --Habs-- says:

    Wish they would have ranked PK 12th after the contract

    Go HABS Go

  4. HabinBurlington says:

    This story is a few days but is a season preview of the Bulldogs from Hamiltons Newspaper the The Spec.
    http://www.thespec.com/sports/bulldogs/article/801970–lots-to-look-forward-to-as-bulldogs-have-plenty-of-talent-for-upcoming-season

    I think the paper forgets that St. Denis should be in Hamilton this season won’t he? He would be a key veteran defender to help all the rookies on Defence there.

    • savethepuck says:

      Also surprising they mention Gallagher and Holland as the only 2 forwards coming in from junior. Don’t they know who Michael Bournival is? He only played for Canada at the WJHC last year and was the Captain of the Memorial Cup champs.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

  5. JF says:

    To complete my wrap-up of our juniors: Tim Bozon scored a hat trick and was a +1 in a 6-5 victory over Kelowna.

  6. Iceberg84 says:

    Unrelated question to this post that may have already been discussed, but can someone explain to me what happens to a player’s contract during a lockout? Specifically I’m thinking of Scott Gomez and how if the habs don’t have to pay him during a lockout, it might be thin silver-lining to drop a year of his contract for nothing, assuming the lockout lasts all year long.

    So do the players just not get paid until the lockout is resolved and basically lose a year of their contracts for nothing?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Correct Iceberg, if indeed no hockey all season, only 1 season would remain on the Gomez contract.

      The only players getting any money are the ones who had a signing bonus in their contract for this season. Eg. Cole, Moen, Gorges and Price are getting some bonus money. You can these contracts at http://www.capgeek.com

  7. Hobie Hansen says:

    I think THN got it correct by ranking Price at #5. Even if the order isn’t correct or a couple goalies are missing, I think Price slides in around 5th or 6th.

    I hope the fans and media give him a break next year and probably the year after as well. The defense in front of him was brutal last year and Price and the Habs still managed the forth best record in goals against in the Eastern Conference.

    As well, the team needs to score some more goals for him. Hopefully a healthy Markov with Subban on the PP helps in that department.

    Price is one of those cases where if here were to go to another team that was further a head of Montreal in depth chart (St. Louis, NYR, L.A.) he’d dominate for the next decade or so.

    Hard for Price to shine in the current environment.

  8. SnowManHabs85 says:

    @ Vegas. Just so you know, Lundqvist is number one on that list. Yea pretty brutal list..

  9. JF says:

    Since there is no NHL hockey, I’ve decided for now to keep track of how our prospects in junior are doing. I can’t watch the games, but I’ll post each player’s points after every game.

    Alex Galchenyuk had one assist in a 3-1 loss to Belleville.

    Charles Hudon had two assists in a 9-4 loss to the Remparts.

    Olivier Archambault had a goal and was a +1 in a 4-3 win over Shawnigan. I’ve read some good things about this kid lately, so I’m beginning to hope we might have gotten a steal. He’s been working hard and seems to have improved his attitude – or maybe he’s just grown up a bit.

    WHL games are not over yet.

  10. Clay says:

    An alternative (some might say more realistic) view of goalie rankings from TSN
    http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?ID=10466
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    • vegas says:

      more realistic???

      They have the 2 Oilers goalies in the top 30 and Lundqvist isn’t even on the list. Theodore ahead of price.

      Brutal listing

      • JayK-47 says:

        Lundqvist is the top rated goalie, you have to look at the picture at the top. I made the same mistake at first too.

      • SlovakHab says:

        Lundqvist is no.1 on the list.
        The listing is nothing but numbers game, where GAA, SV% and wins per games played rank the goalies. Goalies that played for good teams and got more wins will be higher.

        • Clay says:

          That’s not correct Slovak; if that were the case, how do you explain Boston and Vancouver (most points in the league) having goalies ranked 9th and 10th (respectively) on that list? Also, Pittsburgh, with the second most points in the East, has their goalie ranked 16th.

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    • Good Habit says:

      1. Lundqvist
      2. Quick
      3. Rinne
      4. Price
      5. Halak

    • MattZ says:

      I do not find this list more realistic, but it is unfair to compare the 2. Tsn’s list is based on last year’s stats, while THN’s list is based on ability and performance (stats do not always tell the whole story, especially for a goalie in hockey). Well that is just my opinion, you are entitled to yours.

  11. Rad says:

    Habs need one of their prospects to really come through in a big way, else it’s the middle of the pack for the Habs for at least a couple/three years. The organization needs someone to come out of nowhere and become a high-level player for this team. Either someone acquired in a trade or one of their prospects coming up. Who knows, perhaps Daultan Leveille could be that player. I am sure Rick Dudley was consulted before Leveille was signed, and Dudley’s got a great eye for talent …

    http://www.hamiltonbulldogs.com/pressbox/news/?article_id=53

  12. kempie says:

    Talbot is obviously an animal but this doesn’t exactly look like Biosteel. Not sure how practical this is. I guess I wouldn’t want him to poke me with his finger.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BnpIo4WXqyw#!

  13. SlovakHab says:

    Subban’s Belleville Bulls beat Galchenyuk’s Sarnia Sting 3-1.
    Gally had 1 assist and was +1.
    http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/schedule/show/game/63196

    • ProHabs says:

      Thanks for the update. Really want to go see the Sting play the Frontenacs in Kingston but if I checked the schedule correctly, they are only coming to Kingston in February (the one and only time)

  14. NightRyder says:

    Martin Brodeur? Are you freaking serious? A pudgy 40-year-old system goaltender? Someone likes the mushrooms…

  15. Ron says:

    Stubbs has a nice piece out on Eric Cole’s lower body injury that he is nursing.

  16. Habsbill24 says:

    I have discovered a reason to continue the lockout. In today’s Boston Globe there is an article about Jack Edwards not getting paid by NESN during the lockout. There is always a silver lining.

  17. Un Canadien errant says:

    A Facebook status update from one of my friends:

    “Just finished a job for a local NHL team owner at his ski ” cabin”. Life is rough for these people, they totally need more money…how else is he going to pay for his driveway snow melting system this winter!”

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    This isn’t “Billionaires vs. Millionaires.” Only a willfully uninformed fool would apply that sloppy shorthand designation to this disgraceful power grab crafted by some of the wealthiest individuals and corporate entities in North America aimed against professional athletes.–Larry Brooks of the New York Post

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Mark C says:

      That’s almost as funny as Rick Nash being ranked as the best Right Winger!

    • L Elle says:

      I know eh? It’s a good thing they’re laying off their workers just to be able to melt snow.

    • Ron says:

      You friend is not a very discreet contractor. Wants to hope nobody points that out to the team owner or no more work.

    • christophor says:

      Out of one corner of his mouth he’s probably thanking the owner for the nice-paying gig and complimenting him on his nice place.

      Out of the other corner he’s spouting this drivel.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Care to hear some stories of work done on hockey players homes or would that shoot a hole in your theory that players are angels and owners are the devil re-incarnate.

      I mean come on Norm, so if you have done well in your life financially does this mean you should live the life of a hermit? I have many stories I could tell you of excessive spending by athletes, they have the right to do it also and they do.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Exactly. Maybe UCE should write about some of the wealthy NHL grackles that have flown to Europe to steal jobs.

        He really needs to give it a rest. Enough is enough.

    • ari says:

      that’s a cool idea.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Interesting responses to a post by a buddy of mine which I thought brings context to the larger issue of who gets the spoils of the game. He obviously sees it one (my) way, and isn’t too careful about his privacy and future ability to get more contracts.

      HiB, the snow-melting driveway is one of the worst excesses we see in Whistler, a greenhouse-gas producing unnecessary luxury.

      I’m not saying that all players are angels and owners are devils (again, I’m quoting someone else’s FB update), it’s just more anecdotal evidence that maybe shutting down the game isn’t necessary.

      24 Cups, the boys are locked out of their job because they’re refusing to take a 20% pay cut. I don’t see the fact that they’re looking for another place to play as dishonest or immoral. When Europeans are able to, they come over here and steal jobs from good Canadian boys as Don Cherry will be happy to explain to you.

      ———————————————————————–
      This isn’t “Billionaires vs. Millionaires.” Only a willfully uninformed fool would apply that sloppy shorthand designation to this disgraceful power grab crafted by some of the wealthiest individuals and corporate entities in North America aimed against professional athletes.–Larry Brooks of the New York Post

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  18. Habilis says:

    Anyone know of a site where I can watch the Sarnia Sting game?

  19. Habfan10912 says:

    An article about the lockout effect on the Winter Classic.
    http://m.thestar.com/sports/leafs/article/1260713–nhl-lockout-leafs-wings-winter-classic-could-die-in-november

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  20. The Dude says:

    Quick ,Halak and Miller are above Price… but maybe one day?

  21. HabsWinn-ipeg says:

    When (not if) hockey starts, the Habs promise to be an interesting team. We’ve got a high intensity coach, and have picked up some high intensity players. So many times last year the Habs were just boring in addition to losing. I think this year they will be fun to watch at the very least.

    Zach Stortini – 6’4′ and 215 lbs and not afraid to drop ‘em. A potential call up for games with certain teams?

    • chanchilla says:

      with prust moen and white, i think we should avoid using players who all they can do is fight, and not actually play hockey.

    • ProHabs says:

      We need a big defenceman that can fight, a John Erskine that can play number 6 defence and drop the mitts with anyone. We are tooo soft on the back end with Diaz, Weber, Kaberle. Our 5 and 6 defence man should be big and able to fight then we will be fine.

      • chanchilla says:

        we have 12 forwards and 6 defencemen…defencemen play more minutes than forwards, so you want one of those defencemen to be sitting in the box to wear out the rest of our d? I never understood the fighting D…it just doesnt make sense.

      • frontenac1 says:

        Prohabs! Amigo! I was pushing to get Homeboy John Erskine for at least 2 months last spring. I promised Comandant I would not mention.his name again. But screw it . After numerous cocktails with the lads today and the Fronts home opener against the Colts tonight, I’m going full on Kingston and saying again, get john Erskine! You won’t regret it! Saludos!

        • ProHabs says:

          Frontenac, I would be so happy if Bergevin brought in Erskine. I think he could be had for cheap to. Chancilla, we need at least 1 or 2 crease clearing Dmen. If they get into a couple of fights in the process than I am OK with that. Players like Subban and Markov can handle some extra minutes as can Emelin.

  22. rhino514 says:

    i think Price is definitely better than Brodeur at this point. However you could make a case for Miller, or Cam Ward on a terrible Canes team. If Mike smith has another great year, then he is also part of the elite.

  23. Alex Galchenyuk has been named captain of the Sarnia Sting.

    “Galchenyuk will lead the Sting in his first game as captain when the Sting open the regular season at the RBC Centre TONIGHT against the Belleville Bulls at 7:00 p.m.”

    Read more here: http://www.sarniasting.com/article/alex-galchenyuk-named-sting-captain

  24. Sean Bonjovi says:

    “In the Oct. 1 edition of The Hockey News, the magazine ranks the top 20 NHLers by position…”

    FIVE QUESTIONS!?!

    1. Why is there a link to THN website if the story is in the magazine?

    2. Who owns THN?

    3. If this THN story isn’t free to view on their web site, why is HI/O promoting it?

    4. What’s a magazine?

    5. What word do you see written in these brackets? [ Liquor ]

  25. Bripro says:

    And Renaud Lavoie answered my question from the previous thread.
    The Quebec Labour Board will conduct a hearing between the NHL and NHLPA on October 15th.

  26. Bripro says:

    Plekanec has 1G 3A in 2GP for Kladno. He’s playing on a line with Jagr, who has 1G 1A.

  27. holypricehabsman says:

    For once I agree with the Toronto biased hockey news, with the exception of brodeurs ranking. I was kinda shocked we didn’t see reimer in the top spot, haha

  28. jeffhabfan says:

    It is great to see our 3 building blocks are top 20.Man our future looks great.I just wish that camp started today like it should have.

  29. Habitoba says:

    With no hockey news going on, and the people here celebrating every past Habs’ birthday, I thought there’d be at least a mention of Lafleur’s birthday on the 20th.

  30. Strummer says:

    Looks like Price should be the starter for Team Canada if they participate in Sochi.

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  31. HNS says:

    What is THN smoking??

  32. Philly-Poo says:

    How… Appropriate? Drafted 5th overall, in 2005, sits as the 5th overall goalie after his 5th NHL season… Dun dun dunnnnnn…

  33. bwoar says:

    From the previous thread:

    Smartdog:

    “Are you kidding me? Bettman’s first offer was a 14% percent rollback on a deal that he had “won” the first time around, with no changes to the financial structure that he keeps saying is broken. This was a clear sign that he wasn’t there to fix things, he was making a grab for cash – BIG cash. If Bettman had come up with something half reasonable, a dialogue would’ve started.”

    Future offers from the league haven’t included the clawback, though SD. Once GB et al got off that bit of insanity, the players needed to get serious as well, and leave behind the pie-in-the-sky “revenue projection” based financial model. The refusal on the players’ part to argue the deal on similar terms as every other previous CBA is destructive to the process.

    They need to agree on HRR, and agree on the % of sharing. Fine.

    The owners need to acknowledge that GB’s vision of growing the game is generational; that by its nature it will incur losses in markets that are non-traditional and that they themselves, since it is their business plan, are ready to bail out owners in need IN THOSE MARKETS (but not in places like NJ where hockey isn’t a foreign language. Rev sharing to aid traditional/legacy markets ought to be a shared 50-50 deal between players and onwers IMO.)

    The NHL’s growth strategy isn’t unlike Microsoft trying to break into console gaming. Insane, right? They dumped over a billion dollars in the launch year of the XBox just to become players at the table. But over time, they rolled that over and now have, arguably, the most successful current platform given the longevity of the 360.

    I might add, Sony did much the much the same with the PS1. “Compete against Nintendo and SEGA?! Are you insane?!” Yet sure enough, the PS2 may well be the most successful single console product of all time.

    There’s nothing intrinsically bad about this kind of long-term thinking in the NHL, but since player careers are much shorter than the time it takes to make a franchise ‘stick’ in a brand new market, the NHL owners absolutely must take the hit for the plan. And if it stinks for them, it’s on Bettman to keep selling it to them year in and year out until they either succeed in growing new, profitable franchises or fold their cards and simply contract the league after admitting their mistakes.

    Remember that this does not take into account markets like LA and SJ who have solid attendance but somehow lose money. The league and the players need to come to grips with the real reasons for WHY buildings that should be profitable are not. It’s been what, 22 years in San Jose, zero cups, 100% attendance over the last while, still losing huge sums. Why? Is it really player salaries? If so, it’s truly on the players to address this.

    Right now I see a bunch of players who have never been locked out, being led down the primrose path by a jackwagon who cares nothing for sports fans. And a bunch of owners having their backsides licked and their egos stroked off by a toad who cares nothing for hockey’s most important asset, you and I and all of ours.

    • Phil C says:

      “Future offers from the league haven’t included the clawback”

      I thought the final offer from the NHL included an immediate reduction to 49%, then 47% after 6 years. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=405400

      Asking a union to agree to a paycut as a part of CBA negotiation seems like a good way to force a labour dispute, no matter what the industry. A good starting point for the negotiation would be for the owners to respect the contracts they signed in the past and negotiate on what happens going forward. This is my biggest complaint about the NHL’s offer. It reeks of greed and short term gain while squandering an opportunity to fix the system long-term for all stake-holders.

      Denying your product from your customers as a leverage tool risks slaying the golden goose. All for a few percent either way. Insanity.

      The owners should get a more skilled negotiator. Locking the players out every time to get his own way lacks finesse and ability, it is the dump and chase of negotiating tactics. The NHL needs someone capable of win-win negotiation. Demanding an immediate salary rollback tells me that Bettman is an old-school win-lose type of negotiator.

      • bwoar says:

        Re: the ‘clawback’:
        It’s not the same thing a asking for an immediate percentage cut of *actual player salaries*, on top of a percentage change of the cut of revenues, which was the league’s first offer; that’s what I was responding to in SD’s post. The league abandoned the across-the-board salary giveback in subsequent offers, which of course they had to.

        (This is not to say that they aren’t triggering givebacks in other ways, of course.)

        I don’t think there would be any CBA negotiations in the world, ever, if one side wasn’t asking for more from the other. I absolutely agree that signing contracts all summer with little to no intention of actually honouring them was dishonest & despicable on the part of the owners.

        Denying your product from your customers is exactly what the postal workers did during the last Canada Post strike. The workers balked at adjusting compensation to suit reality, and in doing so, caused a lot of people to rely even less on a service that finds itself increasingly obsolete. I happened to meet with a few clients during that period in various lounges and eateries around my neighbourhood for lunch – very shocked to find posties sitting around drinking (at noon) and blaming the government for the situation. Meanwhile a lot of people who rely on CP to deliver payroll couldn’t pay their rent. Some of my clients use CP a lot. So, we couldn’t help but wonder what they were doing there, as their own golden goose was burning.

        (It would’ve been awesome if CP workers could’ve gone and delivered mail in Europe, btw.)

        In my opinion both players and owners are doing the same thing now. I don’t think it’s gonna be win-win, and I don’t think Fehr is that kind of guy either – just ask me and every other die-hard Expos fan. But the owners don’t like being told how to run their business, and that’s the bottom line of what Fehr is doing. It’s not gonna fly.

  34. commandant says:

    I’m happy to hear Price is number 5. I think thats a good ranking.

    If I can nitpick though, Brodeur really shouldn’t be number 4. Yes he had a great playoffs, but he’s really shown signs of his the last few years, and that is his only really good playoffs since the lockout.

    Go Habs Go!
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    • Kooch7800 says:

      His best years are behind him I am afraid and he struggled at times last year in the regular season. Great goalie though and a great playoff run last year.

      For Marty’s age his flexibility is amazing. Some of the saves last year were just amazing.

      But yes, he should no longer be in the top 4 goalies in the league.

  35. savethepuck says:

    As a Habs fan you have to be happy that all 3 of these guys are also 25 years old or younger.

    “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
    Carey Price

  36. Psycho29 says:

    WHAT??? He’s ahead of H***k???????
    How can that be!!!

    Sorry……couldn’t resist!!! ;-)

  37. shiram says:

    I’m ok with that, all those guys are all more established than Price.

  38. HabinBurlington says:

    Thanks for the link Habsolutely, while I think both sides are to blame, i gotta give whoever did that credit for getting the main point across, We the Fans want Hockey!


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