‘This isn’t something that can’t be done,’ Habs’ Gionta says of a comeback

The Canadiens returned home after Sunday night’s 3-2 overtime loss to the Rangers in New York and held an optional practice at 1 p.m. Monday in Brossard.

Both goaltenders – Dustin Tokarski and Peter Budaj – took part in the practice along with 11 skaters. Tomas Plekanec was the first player on the ice and was joined by Brandon Prust, Rene Bourque, Michael Bournival, Francis Bouillon, Jarred Tinordi, Travis Moen, Ryan White, Nathan Beaulieu, Douglas Murray and George Parros.

The Rangers lead the best-of-seven Eastern Conference final 3-1 and the Canadiens will be facing elmination in Game 5 Thursday night at the Bell Centre (8 p.m., CBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

“It’s a challenge, but this isn’t something that can’t be done,” captain Brian Gionta told reporters in Brossard after Monday’s practice.

In fact, the Canadiens have rallied back from a 3-1 playoff deficit twice in the last 10 years.

In 2010, with Jaroslav Halak in goal and Gionta as the captain, the Canadiens rallied from 3-1 down to the Washington Capitals in the first round of the playoffs and won the series. And in 2004, the Habs were down 3-1 to the Boston Bruins in the first round before coming back to win that series.

Gionta was asked if there is anything the current Canadiens can draw on from the 2010 comeback against the Capitals.

“Well, the guys that were here, you know, you remember the situation and you remember the feelings that you had,” he said. “At no point in that series did we feel we were out of it, and the same holds true now. We believe in the team that’s in here, and we believe we can win this series.”

Tomas Plekanec was also part of that 2010 Canadiens team and was asked if the confidence was always there during that series.

“I think when your back’s against the wall, anything after that is playing kind of loose,” he said. “Just going out there every shift and going hard and trying to get, like I said, trying to do everything you can to keep the series going.”

Meanwhile, Canadiens goalie Carey Price – who suffered a knee injury in Game 1 and was ruled out for the rest of the series – skated without equipment for about 20 minutes Monday in Brossard before the team’s optional practice.

“He’s not going to play, like I said before,” coach Michel Therrien told reporters after the practice. ” He’s not going to play in the series, you know.  It’s just part of the rehab, that’s all.  It’s a great sign.”

Therrien was asked if he spoke with goalie Dustin Tokarski after Sunday’s overtime loss.

“I let (goalie coach) Stephane Waite deal with the goalie, so …” he responded.

In New York, Steve Zipay of Newsday reported that Rangers centre Derek Stepan is accompanying the team to Montreal, but his status for Game 5 is uncertain. Stepan suffered a broken jaw when he was hit by the Canadiens’ Brandon Prust in Game 3. Prust, who wasn’t penalized on the play, was later suspended for two games by the NHL for the late hit.

(Photo by John Kenney/The Gazette)

(Video by The Gazette’s Brenda Branswell)

St. Louis scores in OT to put Habs on brink of elimination, by The Gazette’s Pat Hickey

Rangers hold dagger at Habs’ throat, by The Gazette’s Dave Stubbs

Broken play breaks Montreal hearts, by Jack Todd for The Gazette

New York’s love affair with Prust is over, by Dave Stubbs

Canadiens lose game of inches, face elimination, NHL.com

It takes four, canadiens.com

After much talk, Rangers quiet Canadiens with their play, New York Times

Tokarski had St. Louis’s number, then lost it, New York Post

King Henrik 60 minutes from chance at wearing crown, New York Daily News

Rangers bench mic’d up, newyorkrangers.com



  1. sreuel says:

    Why do people always think that a cone back can be done as it was done years ago. Different team and this team can’t score or score on PP

    • franco says:

      One game at a time. That is why they have coaches to try and work through the challenges.

      They lost 2 overtime games in New York. Just play them one at a time.
      It has been a great run no matter what happens.

    • franco says:

      People do not ‘always think’ anything. Everything is based on hope, every game is based on hope.

      If this was a regular season game and New York was coming to play the Canadiens a win would be doable.

  2. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …beating Boston was Our Stanley Cup, I’m afraid 🙂

  3. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …what would You do if a biker cuts You off ? …I mean, a biker biker 🙂


    …I’ve done this a couple times in My Life, and each time when I get home, I ask Myself, ‘maybe I shouldn’t have ?’ 🙂

    …though, AT THE TIME, it felt REAL good 🙂

  4. TheFlower10 says:

    Amazing how some people always complain. Our team is playing good hockey, we just need to get our power play going. Everyone has good and bad games. I’m thinking Vanek is hurt and we all know Patches is streaky. Weaver has been awesome and I can’t say enough about our rookie goalie. Win or lose, I’m proud of our team. For all of you doubters, if the Rangers don’t win this in 6, they are not winning. Our team is proud, we will not lose again on home ice.

  5. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Wagon is getting way better gas mileage today…must be the lighter load.

    Nice to see all the Habs fans already trading away half the roster before the season is over. Not sure about the lot of you, but I think the Rangers are right where the Habs want them…full of confidence, thoughts of what they did the Pens will be in their minds, and that is when their mistakes will happen.

    Habs roll 3 wins, can’t wait for Saturday night hockey again this weekend!



    Folks, it’s Playoffs time, and that’ll keep ya on yer seats!

  6. Gehlsen says:

    Someone said earlier to that Eller is not getting enough time to play but given the time he got is stats are good.

    Then others are saying our veterans are not to part or exceeding their potential(Plex).

    So my suggestion is to switch them and give Eller the time and see what he can do.

    Plex has rotating wingers but he himself had never moved or lost time on the ice. Maybe it’s not wingers but him…give him third line minutes and see if it works!

    Les Habitant!

  7. punkster says:

    A few common themes from HIO prior to game 6 against the br00nz seemed to be back today around here:

    Doom and gloom from pretty well the same group of people as we’re seeing now. They were wrong then so maybe…???

    Calls for inserting White, and even Murray, in the lineup for “grit”. Thank heavens we never went that route.

    Calls for unloading Pleks because, well, whatever. Of course looking at the basic playoff stats of centres on nhl.com from then, and those updated to include last night, suggest that he’s doing just fine.

    Calls to sit Gionta because, well, whatever. Probably the worst thing you could do for that room then, and now, would be to pull such a classless move.

    On the other hand there was, and still is, general agreement and frustration on the Habs inability to clear their zone. Horrible decisions, inexcusable attempts, just a clusterflock of insanity in their own end that never seems to be addressed or resolved. And the inept power play? Yet another observation generally shared by all.

    All this to say that somehow, somewhere, the Habs found a way to even it up with the br00nz and it’s very possible they will do the same with the Rags.

    Release the Subbang!!!

    • UKRAINIANhab says:

      Post of the day.

      This isn’t the bruins either. Its the Rangers.

    • habs001 says:

      Plecks has been terrible in the New York series..

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Punkster! There will be a game 7 in NY.!

    • ACEEAGLE says:

      Look who the defence coach is….clearing the zone was never a strength of his….I do not think that the players respect him.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      The criticisms of the Habs are unreal. Apart from Game One (where Price was knocked out of the game) we have played the Rangers even. These are the two best teams in the East. The two games in NY were dead even.

      I see that some people feel the team owes them more than that (and investigating the roots of that delusion would be interesting, but its for another day).

      For me, the problem is precisely that the two teams are even. We need to win three coin flips in a row.

      Know the odds of that folks?

      Moving. Forward.

      • punkster says:

        For each individual toss I believe it’s 50/50 though some will argue that while misunderstanding the concept.

        However, if we were to win the first game (forget the coins) we just may have a slight edge in the next one by virtue of planting a seed of doubt. Then if we win the second that seed could grow plus we come back home for the final, another possible advantage.

        Release the Subbang!!!

  8. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …if this was 2 or 3 weeks before the end of the season, I would have been anxious to play Boston in the playoffs, with almost 100 % confidence We would win the series, knowing We bewitch, bother and bewilder da Beans

    …I also would have had as much confidence overcoming the Strangers pre-playoffs …not yet factoring-in the ‘Martin St-Louis effect’

    …Detroit, and Tampa Bay (with or without Ben Bishop, and no MSL) as well, feeling We would come-out on top

    …the team I felt almost zero confidence We would win over was Philadelphia (100 %)

    …the Penguins ? (50/50 %)

    …well, the Strangers eventually beat convincingly da Philthydelphia Phlyers and the Flightless Ones

    …I still do believe there is a very realistic possibility We can/will beat New York, but it all depends Tokarski staying steady, and whether Our scorers can break-loose

    …I just feel Vanek has regressed to a point of no-return (whether injured or otherwise), and replacing Him with young legs is in Our best-interests

  9. lesboys says:

    If the Captain says it isn’t over, then it isn’t over.
    The Captain says it isn’t over.
    Therefore, it isn’t over.


  10. boulz1971 says:

    @new: I agree. Some true building blocks are in place, win or lose this series.

  11. New says:

    Gionta and Pleks are right. It isn’t over until it is over. Over the approximately 100 games this team played this year management got a great look. Remember they started out with a lock out shortened season after the house cleaning last year.

    Management brought in Tokarski, Condon, Fucale and Waite. Then they obtained Weise, Weaver, and Vanek to fill holes as the playoffs became a possibility. These guys know this team very well. They know what the players are capable of, and more importantly, who is talk and who walks the walk.

    The Canadiens are far from over. I feel for the first time in years that they are just beginning. No more Gomez type epiphanies, promises, and injuries precluding movement. No more Higgins/Komisarek hype, no more Belarus street theatre, just professionals. It will be a nice change.

  12. boulz1971 says:

    Keep lineup same. Pressure puck. Rangers will take penalties. Witness exhibit A last night.

  13. boulz1971 says:

    I think GG needs to watch the Rags practice. With a stogie.

  14. frontenac1 says:

    “This is not something that can’t be done”. Barmaid! Hit me again. And make it a Double.

  15. Stanley Cup or Bust ! says:

    Time to unleash the secret weapon.
    Someone from the Habs anonymously must send the rangers their dinner tonight.
    Smoked Meat Poutine.
    That’ll bog down any man.

  16. Paz says:

    Mark Messier’s name came up below. Not sure how old you guys are, but I’m old enough to have watched Messier break in as an Oiler rookie.

    He was a beast. One of the greatest hockey players I have ever seen. he combined great speed with amazing physical strength, and at a very young age he helped lead that Oilers team to greatness.

    What he did in New York was nothing compared to the career he had as an Oiler.

    So please, do me a favor. Don’t tell me about Mark Messier and who he was, what kind of player he was, and how his skills and leadership helped the Oilers become a dynasty.

    What happened in Vancouver? I have no clue. His 3 years as a Canuck is not relevant to the rest of his career.

  17. UKRAINIANhab says:


    Good summary about Emelin on the winning goal… Yikes

  18. Habfan17 says:

    @ Habs_101

    I think what is more telling, is that when you look at LA for instance their top 7 point producers have 20, 19, 15, 13, 12, 10, 10, points!
    Carter has raised his game and scored 10 points in his last 4 games.

    Montreal top 7 point producers, 13, 11, 10, 9, 9, 8, 8 points. No one has really raised their games except PK and now he is tired.

    So the top 7 on the kings have 99 points and the top 7 on the Habs have 68 points. Probably where the biggest difference is, would be the power play! This is one area that Therrien and the coaches are blowing it. If the Habs bow out, they can look back on last night and the ineffective power play! They do the same thing every time. Each player stays in the same spot and stay within a 10 foot circle while making it easy for the Rangers to defend. They need to change it. It does not work!!


  19. Danno says:


    This is your Captain speaking!


    Don’t never not be a Negatron.

    Thank you for your usual cooperation.


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  20. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Sigh. It is going to be pretty funny when the Habs come back in the series.

    Trade Vanek, Trade Pleks, Trade Markov, Trade Pacioretty, Trade Gionta, Trade Weaver, Boullion sucks, Trade Desharnais.

    I will be laughing at most when the Habs come back. Hopefully, we don’t run Pleks out of town before the game tommorow, we need him to come back.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …most other teams would trade their testicles for a Pleckanec

      …not as a first-liner, but a second or third line centre

    • scamorza says:

      even if we don’t come back and don’t put me in that group, still say habs in 7. c’mon who the hell here predicted us to go this deep into the playoffs? So sorry but this is a very good team that outperformed the critics picks which includes all of us, at the beginning of the season. But because we are passionate habs fans we crap on them. Well better i guess than eating sushi and not watching the game and caring in Laffland. when we get through to the next round and lose a game to LA ( we are too small, Vanek should sit, what’s Frankie doing in there blah blah blah) or Chicago – our d sucks sit Markov is too slow and put in Bealieu blah blah blah. The crap va continuer. Then we win the cup and then we crap on Bergevin for not making the right trade or draft pick or whatever.
      Nature of the beast I suppose

      come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

  21. ACEEAGLE says:

    Any one agree that Vanek should be back with #1 line or just sit him out? One or the other. Not many teams would break up their # 1 line in the playoffs because of a few off games.

  22. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …and, last, but not least: Campaign to Retire Toe Blake’s Number 6 !!!

  23. frontenac1 says:

    Rejoice Amigos! Our Re-enforcements have arrived.The White Knight and The Prairie Farmer have been re-united for the Final Battle. The young knave called Nate has returned to prove his worth and The Swede Viking is sharpening his sword and summoning The Norse Gods.There shall be no stopping our noble quest for The Grail! There shall be No Mercy to these Pretenders! Victory is Ours! Saludos!

  24. ACEEAGLE says:

    In order to win game 5 we have to insert some toughness with speed> So I propose Ryan White in Bournival out( Just doesn’t have the strength at this point)> Tinordi In Emelin out( Seems hurt and slow). Get by game 5 then insert Prust ,Weise out( His overachieving is done).

  25. habfan100 says:

    Going forward there are some positives to look at in this series.

    1. Tokarski has been playing better every game and with much more confidence. I was at Game 2 during his playoff debut and you could see the jitters.

    2. The Canadiens have responded well when facing elimination at home and on the road. 4-0 and 3-1 wins.

    3. 2 of our 3 wins required to win this series are at Home. This would be much more difficult if we had to win 2 at MSG.

    • MontrealAtheist says:

      As far as our boys are concerned playing at home is not much of an advantage in this series (much like having a man advantage).

      We lost both home games pretty much without contest whereas we gave them a hell of a fight at MSG and with a little bit of luck we could easily have won both games over there.

  26. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …just Me, but I would much more prefer losing with Beaulieu and Tinordi than Weaver and, especially, Bouillion

    …love both Weaver and Bouillion, but Beaulieu and Tinordi is how I see the present and the future

  27. Habitant in Surrey says:

    Grantland’s Katie Baker; ‘As Tokarski spoke, Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin, clad in a supremely tailored ankle-length suit the approximate color of Crayola’s burnt umber, lingered a few yards away. He shifted his weight from foot to foot, unable to keep still, eyes like laser beams on his goalie. Finally, the questions stopped, Tokarski stepped down, and Bergevin spoke.

    “Dustin.” ‘

    … 🙂 , …’ankle-length’ ?

    …I guess One had to be there

  28. CJ says:

    Not that anyone’s asking, but I will go ahead and throw in my two cents regarding Pleks…..

    Pleks, at 31 years of age, is coming off of a season in which he had 43 points. When the puck drops to open the new season, Pleks will be 32. At 32, how many good years are remaining? IMO, the answer is relative to expectations and salary, two factors that will need to be weighed closely going forward.

    IMO, Pleks is the victim of his own circumstance. He teased the fans with some offensive output, consistent with the mid-range among first line centres, then follows these seasons with a regression, consistent with point totals equal to the mid range of second line centres. The problem, as I see it, is he is no longer an offensive catalyst. Like Gionta, he must now transition into a primarily defensive specialist. Again, nothing wrong with that, but how do the pieces fit together in this puzzle?

    As previously noted, IMO, we can not continue to carry both DD and Pleks. We need to pick one and trade the other. Contrary to popluar opinion, neither player holds significant value. For example, we are not going to lure Kane away from the Jets for Pleks. More likely, you are going to get a pick or prospect, depending on the market. If you are making a package, Pleks might be considered a cost. Neither Pleks nor DD is capable of carrying the team forward (offensively). So, why carry both in a defensive role? Again, IMO, I think Eller could be a solid #3. In the short term you could dangle Pleks and play DD in the #2 spot. This works, provided we have a #1 emerge. These guys do not grow on trees though, so unless Chucky can rise to the occassion, we might have to look outside the organization for a replacement.

    In closing, Pleks is what he is. There is almost no offence left in the lemon, so we should all – especially me – forget about hoping for something special to happen offensively. In fact, his point totals this post season are roughly equal to his point totals in the regular season (as a percentage). The greater concern, IMO, is in the defensive zone, where Pleks is now a minus 7. Pleks is one of a number of players who have not acquited themselves well in this year’s playoffs. For us to have any chance to mount a comeback and beat the Rangers, this will need to change.

    Just my two cents….. CJ

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Pleks I think would have more trade value that DD just due mainly to perception. People see pleks as a solid two-way centre who can put up 50 points and shut down big offense. A team like Washington could use his services as they have always stunk defensively. I agree that he is not getting any younger and really at 32 he will be harder to move.

      Calgary held on to Iggy way to long. I hope the Habs will not be afraid to make a move. From MB’s track record so far he is not afraid to pull the trigger if the price is right.

      • C-Sword says:

        I totally agree! It’s time to give more responsibility to both Galchenyuk and Eller. There’s a reason why he wasn’t nominated for the Selke Award, he’s just not that good. His stats on the face-offs are average at best, he’s not physical and he has little to offer offense wise. He could make a solid 3rd line center on another team, we could trade him for a decent scorer on the wing. If the Kings insist on keeping Gaborik, they’ll have to let go few of their players, a defenseman like Alec Martinez could help us big time.

    • UKRAINIANhab says:

      As long as MT is the coach, Pleks is going nowhere.

      . You consistently (understatement) go on about how bad Gionta is, well maybe he is bringing Plekanec’s Play down. Remember against Tampa the Plekanec and Gallagher duo was one of the best.

      • Habfan17 says:

        They both should be gone! Galchenyukk can fill Pleks spot!


        • UKRAINIANhab says:


          What has he done in his first 2 seasons here? Nothing. Look at what Mackinnon, Barkov, Toffili etc etc have done for there teams.

          Im not saying Galchenyuk won’t be good, but the fact people are annoiting him as the #1C is bizzare. He had 12 Goals this year

          • Habfan17 says:

            First, thank you for the correction! It is not a fair comparison, they were all given top line minutes in their natural positions. I am not saying he is the number one, at least not right away. I do think he should be playing centre, maybe the 3rd line to start.


          • UKRAINIANhab says:

            Okie doke

    • Habfan17 says:

      Hi CJ,

      As much as DD has impressed me with his effort in the playoffs, he has been pretty ineffective. I would hate to see him or Pleks matched against Kopitar, Carter or Richards in the playoffs. I think at this time, if the Habs deem that Galchnyuk will be playing centre next season, that they should trade both. Galchenyuk, Eller and Bournival can centre the first 3 lines and De La Rose may also be ready, he has been playing against men in Sweden for two seasons now. If De La Rose can make it, then leave Bournival on the wing.

      If these playoffs have shown anything, it is that Gionta and Markov are expendable. It was Markov that decided to skate all the way across the ice when the other 4 Habs players were already over there and leave St. Louis wide open. Overall, Markov has not been that great and with Pateryn, Nygren, Beaulieu and Tinordi waiting in the wings, someone needs to go. If not Markov then either Emelin or Gorges.

      Don’t get me wrong, I think the Habs have played great in the playoffs and I am very happy! However, I see the veterans not keeping up or being effective and PK getting tired as he needs to be over used. Gallagher needs more support, Bourque worked hard last night, but again, Vanek and Patches are not raising their games! I am started to become disenchanted with Patches. He needs to raise him game consistently in the playoffs and it does not look like he can!

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        Richards? Really?

        ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

        • Habfan17 says:

          Maybe not Richards, substitute Toffoli! Carter! has 19 points and 10 in his last 4 games! He was inconsistent during the season, He is also plus 5. He is the second line centre and Pleks is minus 7 with 8 points! The Habs can’t afford to have second line centres like that. Sure you can blame his wingers, but he has been given some decent players who are solid two way players. He just doesn’t get the job done in the playoffs! Just check his stats!


    • montreal ace says:

      CJ Pleks does his job well, but as far as I am concerned he comes up short in the emotional department. I have seen him play for his country with emotion, just do the same in a Habs Jersey

    • JUST ME says:

      There will be serious decisions to be taken over the summer break. Bergevin chose not to make any wich gave us our present depth but it will not last forever.
      Do not know about seeing Plek go although sometimes like yesterday he made me mad with his soft one hand on the stick plays…But i have to admit though that this is not his usual commitment. In fact this is one of his biggest asset ,commitment and involvement on both sides of the play and he is a reliable warrior rarely absent.
      Sure he would be attractive to most of the other 29 teams but when he is gone will we be looking for someone playing exactly like Plek ? Cause if it is so then we might as well keep him. O.K. i know that we will have to solve the center position dilemma eventualy but…

      As you say one for one will not get us an Eberle or a Kane but we have more than interresting stuff to make an attractive package deal. Because this is also a colateral effect of getting that far in the playoffs, some of our players saw their value rise in th eyes of other teams.

      I thought i would have to prepare myself for the past trade deadline but i think now that over the next summer i have to be ready and willing to see someone i like be traded . This is the price to ay to continue to build something stronger and stronger and i trust Bergevin to add a few more bricks . We need at least one more year if not two before we see our draft picks being ready to graduate…

    • CH Marshall says:

      This might seem crazy, but as an armchair GM, I’d see if the Wings would be into giving up Mantha for Pleks

    • Ton says:

      We share the same views…..good perspective well written and no mention of testicles in your posts!

  29. montreal ace says:

    I still find Montreal to be a milch mash of players, that has given it their all, but are coming up short after Price went down. I like this team at the moment, and will till the season ends, as I think they play motivated by the fans. This team has a lot of good parts, its just that they need to be fine tuned, not just today but every chance a GM has in the future. This team is giving it, but everything is forced so there is not a natural flow to their game.

  30. habfan100 says:

    3-1 isn’t the end of the world and I truly do believe we will win Game 5. 4-1 or something. Game 5 will be the best game the Habs have played so far. Vanek & Bournival out, White & Moen in. We need to use our speed but we also need to start hitting these guys. When we threw the body around in Game 3, NYR started getting rid of the puck ASAP.

    If I am wrong, and they blow it there are some major changes required. You can’t lose 3 straight at home in a 7 game series.

    Game 6 on the other hand is a completely different story. That’s going to be the game to see who steps up on this team. Tell you one thing though, Brandon Prust will be in that lineup.

    Game 5 lineup

    Pacioretty – Desharnais – Gallagher
    Galchenyuk – Eller – Weise
    Bourque – Plekanec – Gionta
    Moen – Briere – White

    Markov – Subban
    Gorges – Emelin
    Beaulieu – Weaver

  31. Habs_101 says:

    Looking at our entire team statistics for the play-offs I cant help but wonder why Eller gets the 7th most icetime out of all of our forwards, he leads the forwards in points and is +3 as well… it would be awesome to see what he could do given DD’s icetime and usage, I think he would excel!

    Thats not a slight on DD who’s playing very well right now, just to say that I think there are some tough decisions coming up!


    • Habfan17 says:

      I think what is more telling, is that when you look at LA for instance their top 7 point producers have 20, 19, 15, 13, 12, 10, 10, points!
      Carter has raised his game and scored 10 points in his last 4 games.

      Montreal top 7 point producers, 13, 11, 10, 9, 9, 8, 8 points. No one has really raised their games except PK and now he is tired.

      So the top 7 on the kings have 99 points and the top 7 on the Habs have 68 points. Probably where the biggest difference is, would be the power play! This is one area that Therrien and the coaches are blowing it. If the Habs bow out, they can look back on last night and the ineffective power play! They do the same thing every time. Each player stays in the same spot and stay within a 10 foot circle while making it easy for the Rangers to defend. They need to change it. It does not work!!


  32. Stanley Cup or Bust ! says:

    Go HABS GO !!!

  33. montreal ace says:

    I can’t help but wonder about PK’s game, since Price has been hurt. It seems we lost our two most important players after Price’s injury

  34. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I can’t remember the last time, if ever, I went into a game thinking it’s a ‘sure thing’ We will lose

    …so, I even surprised Myself when, after learning Therrien was replacing Beaulieu with Bouillion, I stated to My Son ‘We will lose tonight’

    …after Boo scored His goal My Boy looks at Me as if I know nothing 🙂

    …I told Him ‘the game ain’t over yet, …be patient’

  35. munch17 says:

    Poor Lars Eller – no matter what he does he seems to get a raw deal.
    He is our leading scoring forward – with no PP opportunities.Last night he played 13 minutes – mostly with Bourque ( who played well )and Vanek.
    DD on the other hand played 22 minutes.
    Not sure I understand this.
    Our PP has been pathetic – yet we kep putting the same players out there – neither DD nor Max have been good on the PP. I’d love to see 27 on the halfboards – he has the option of shooting.
    Even Pleks is better on the PP.
    This has been the problem for months and no adjustment from MT.
    With 79 and 76 – PP should be better – much better.

  36. CalgaryHab says:

    “At no point in that series did we feel we were out of it, and the same holds true now.”
    I beg to differ Gio. From a fan perspective the vibe is completely different. The Washinton series we weren’t expected to win, the 3-1 deficit was a little flattering to Washington as the Habs should have won a couple of those games.
    This series is frustrating – mainly because we have witnessed our team beat their foe and President Cup winners in such tremendous team fashion, only to watch them lay the proverbial egg, as if some one flicked off a switch.
    In both 3-1 series in 2004 and 2010, I felt the Habs could come back, and they did. I wish I felt it this time but it’s just not evident in their heart, desire and play.
    Prove me wrong Gio, prove me wrong.

  37. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …a couple surprising numbers: (according to Tim Wharmsby)

    Which team has played in the most post-season games in the last five years ?

    …Montreal: 46 (Four series wins)
    …Vancouver: 46 (Four series wins)

    Goals totals scored in playoffs over past 5 years

    …Milan Lucic: 21 goals (79 games)
    …Jonathan Toews: 21 goals (73 games)

  38. shiram says:

    Subban made the EA NHL cover finals, against Bergeron.

    Some fans were angry that Subban gave out signed jerseys and potentially game tickets to get re-tweets.

  39. Sportfan says:

    Galchenyuk has been impressive in the only two games he’s played which makes his future look brighter as the days go by.

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  40. johnnylarue says:

    “I definitely wouldn’t never say that this isn’t anything that can’t not be done… but it certainly will not NOT be lacking the lack of a challenge,” asserted the captain.

  41. Danno says:

    This isn’t not never shouldn’t won’t ever can’t be impossible. Sort of…


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  42. Cal says:

    Why are links to The Post put up here? They are a rag, as are their writers. Oh, never mind.

  43. chilli says:

    Hats off to Toes Tokarski. He’s played great. If we only score two goals and both from our D, doesn’t matter who is in nets. Can’t win with Frankie Boo leading the offensive charge.

    Vanek is gonna score two next game. if he plays.


  44. habsfan0 says:

    Habs win tomorrow and the pressure is squarely on New York at home in Game 6 as they do not want to return to Montreal for Game 7.

  45. UKRAINIANhab says:

    The Plekanec hype has been ridiculous. The guy is a #2 center but we hope he would dangle around 10 players and go bar down. He is has played with Gionta (crap) and Vanek (crap). Tired of the same old Koivu treatment. He has not been good, but he has not been bad. Enough.

    • Ton says:

      ok lets not scrap but listen to this……..you expect him to be good for he’s in the 5 mill dollar range…….(kane is at 6.5!!!) Pleks tends to disappear in the thick of playoffs! In all fairness to him playoffs is a difficult environment…….. as well he is below average on faceoffs! Given his trade value is good he should be traded.

      • UKRAINIANhab says:

        Then why is his trade value so good?

        Sounds like he sucks… According to you

        …yet his trade value is good.


        • Mr_MacDougall says:

          Cite how he eliminated both Stamkos and Krejci 5 on 5.. And with responsible wingers with offensive ability he’d produce and likely be a positive player.

          Give. The revolving door of linemates he has, it’s not a surprise he doesn’t provide much offence. I’ll add this throughout his career, Plek produces most his points,off the rush, he has not had players with him that excel on the rush. He typically gets the “waste bin” linemates..

          He had the one full season with Kovalev (scored 29 and 70 points) and a decent stretch with Gallagher and Galchenyuk nearing the end of this season.. Other than that, he’s been handed plugs.

          ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

        • Just a Habs Fan says:

          His trade value is good because the poster above says it is….and he also says he is not….many posters on this site offer the same logic…..he is crap let’s trade him to another team for a good player……it’s a hockey blog with posters that range in age from perhaps 10 to 99 or more even. Logic doesn’t exist here only in small doses…..

        • Ton says:

          you need to have players on your roster that have trade value…….he is one of them………bottom line he is not playoff performer but he is a player that will help get you in the playoffs…..won’t win you a cup however…….difference between the two!

      • johnnylarue says:

        Guy Carbonneau should become the Stephane Waite of faceoffs. I’m sure there’s room in the budget for him, and it’s pretty obvious that we’re painfully hurtin’ in that department.

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      Plekanec is mostly being asked to do what he is not capable of doing. Being the number one centre, night in, night out. Never going to happen. As your number two or defensive centre, he is exceptional.

      Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

    • ooder says:

      my only beef with him, is that he is not always reliable in the dot. sometimes you need a guy that you can rely on a la bergeron, moore, halpern
      other than that he has been not bad, not a superstar but ok (then again he does have gio on his wing, so its hard to put up offense like that)

    • habcertain says:

      Thats the problem he is more suited to a #3 shut down guy, he cannot continue as a #2 next year

  46. habs001 says:

    The big hope at centre for the future has to be Galchenyuk..the other centres are not point producers beyond 40 to 55 points…Plecks is regressing,DD does not score goals and while Eller has had a nice playoff he does not strilke me as a consistent point producer…

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …Galchenyuk ain’t exactly lighting up Manhatten either

      • habs001 says:

        Too young and inexperienced right now..and physically not mature yet…next 3 years will tell if he is just a good player are star material…

      • UKRAINIANhab says:


        Consider me officially worried about his future! Sorry peeps, but he has not shown us anything yet.

        • Mr_MacDougall says:

          He has a good shot, can make tape-tape passes when pressured.. That’s something.

          ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

        • Ton says:

          sure besides scoring the overtime goal that prevented us from being swept and come within milimeters of getting us the win yesterday……and he blocked a crucial shot………..yep you know your hockey….. that puts him ahead of Pleks in over all contribution and value and he’s only played two games!

    • FlyAngler says:

      When Eller has gotten the ice time and had decent line mates – the EGG line or Bourque in the playoffs, he has been productive. He has more points than any other Habs forward in the playoffs, so there is no good reason why he can’t produce in the regular season. It is the converse that is the harder thing to accomplish.

      “Gardez la Foi! Keep the Faith!”

  47. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Do you think the Habs can win the next game?


    Do you think the Habs can win game 6?


    Game 7

    Toss up. This really is not that difficult of a task. I am scared for the Rangers tomorrow. I have a feeling Habs are going to destroy them (5-1). Im normally always right.

    • Ton says:

      well you certainly deserve credit for being optimistic and one shall respect this……we do however conflict on what players are the core of the team.

    • habs001 says:

      Habs should win game 5 and 7…The toss up game is game 6…The main concern is that the Habs go 0/4 on the PP in a game and the Rangers go 2/4… Habs should win in Montreal unless they give up bad or flukey goals…

    • johnnylarue says:

      I kinda hope you’re right, Uke… but in another way, I’m also looking to having my life back!

      I could just as easily see the Rangers play exactly the same way they’ve played this entire series–with a blazing speed we have virtually no answer for, and impeccable neutral zone play–and tying a ribbon on this series without too much fuss.

      I feel like an early goal or two from the Rags will be enough put us out of our misery for good. Habs have looked gassed and/or demoralized from the first puck drop of the series, and I can’t see that changing overnight–especially with our elimination-proof goalie on the sidelines.

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      Can they? Of course, they can. Will they? That depends if they start playing their game. I would bring in a couple of larger younger players and start playing the Rangers a lot harder. Prust’s late hit be damned. Finish checks. Especially on McDonagh and, taking a page from their book, Lundquist. Go Habs!

      Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

  48. FlyAngler says:

    A win tomorrow night and we have Prust back for games 6&7 and the intimidation factor alone will have the Rags anxious especially if Stepan should return- and if he does, I would have no problem with Prust hitting him again- cleanly of course!

    “Gardez la Foi! Keep the Faith!”

  49. habs001 says:

    The Rangers overall talent is not better than the Habs ..It could be argued Habs are better..but so far more of the Ranger players want this series than the Habs players…

  50. HardHabits says:

    Brian Gionta is no Marty St. Louis?

  51. Hobie says:

    The Habs are just as good as the Rangers. The Habs will be flying tomorrow night. I could just as easily see Montreal win the game as New York. Flip a coin.

    • shiram says:

      “Flip a coin”
      Well that would certainly save my nerves.

      • Hobie says:

        In years past, you could tell that the Habs were completely over matched in many of our playoff series. In this series we are just as good or better than the Rangers on paper.

        We had the misfortune of getting caught flat footed while being tired in game one. We were in shock after losing Price to start game two. Deflated, had given up, and got lucky to win game three. Last night we were finally ready to go, minus a few injured/tired players, and unfortunately lost.

        So if we’re ready to go again tomorrow night, minus Price, and possible injuries to Subban and Vanek, I say we have a 50/50 shot.

    • habs001 says:

      Talent wise the Habs are better but some of the Habs are lacking parts that Lucic has been hunting for…Some of the Hab players like Plecks are on valium…show no intensity and have not been able to raise their game to another level

      • FlyAngler says:

        One word describes Tomas Plekanec- phlegmatic-and it really is nothing new. The guy is just not passionate or emotional and hasn’t been since he has been here.

        “Gardez la Foi! Keep the Faith!”

  52. The Torch says:

    How many times do the Rangers players need to end up in the back of the Canadiens net…the Habs have yet to go hard to the net. Time for the training wheels to come off kids. Yes the Habs are a good team with a good coach and a good GM…Now lets see some good old fashion playoff hockey…Prust is out because he answered the needs of his teammates and fans…I’d like to see Lundquist in the back of his net now…preferably with the puck and the red light on…go Habs go!!!

  53. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …funny how special players come loaded with eternal pixie-dust, like Martin St.Louis

    …what a Hab he could have been

    …never felt this jealousy as intensely before he became a Stranger

    …serendipitous for the Strangers because We would be ahead in this series 3-1, or tied 2-2, if not for St-Louis

    …he has been the difference

    …serendipitous in the sense that St-Louis ‘wanted’/’demanded’ to play in New York for personal reasons, not because of any brilliant general managering by Glen Sather

    …but, crappy as that is, You just have to admire a player like St-Louis and, be jealous he ain’t a Hab

    • FlyAngler says:

      Sorry, I don’t care to have on the roster a player who not only demanded to be traded, but insisted that he be able to dictate which team and the only team he could be traded to. That does qualify him as entitled and spoiled. He has scored a goal in each game that the Rags have one and the Habs need to start hitting him and making sure that he stops getting those wide open looks.

      “Gardez la Foi! Keep the Faith!”

  54. HUDSONHAB says:

    When DD, Galchenyuk, Eller and at times Pacs have the puck I feel like something good will happen. When Gionta has the puck I feel like the other team will gave a 2on1 or 3on1 in a matter of seconds. I’m sorry and don’t mean to harp on it but that’s just the way it seems.

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      If you see it, management surely sees it. He can’t be brought back.. Bournival can score no goals better than Gionta can score no goals.

      ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

  55. sheds88 says:

    did anyone feel like they got punched in the gut when MSL scored the OT winner ? sucked the life right out of me.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …once upon a time ex-Habs’s spirits would happily retire into the rafters of the Forum

      …now, what’s this karma all about of ex-Habs finding more satisfaction haunting Us on other teams ?

      …though Charlie may be having second-thoughts 🙂

  56. Sportfan says:

    Toker has been great for us, it’ll be fun to see him play more games next season as Carey’s back up, but I hate to say it two out of the three goals I feel as though Price would have stopped them, the last two. I still believe time for an epic comeback!

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  57. FormalWare says:

    Whether or not the Habs win the Cup, this year, if I were Marc Bergevin, I would try to achieve the following (or something quite similar) on or before Draft Day:

    Habs’ 2014-15 Roster:

    Pacioretty – Galchenyuk – Eberle [via trade]
    Bournival – Eller [signed 5 yr/3.5M AAV] – Gallagher
    Briere – DD – Bourque
    Prust – White [signed 2 yr/900K AAV] – Weise [signed 4 yr/1.25M AAV]

    Subban [signed 8 yr/8.5M AAV] – Gorges
    Edler [via trade] – Tinordi
    Beaulieu – Weaver [signed 1 yr, 1.75M]


    EXTRAS: Moen, Pateryn

    UFAs: Markov, Murray, Bouillon, Gionta, Vanek, Parros
    Traded: Emelin, Plekanec, Budaj, [pick(s), prospect(s)]

    I submit that the above roster would be one of the 2-3 teams most favoured to come out of the Eastern Conference in 2015.

    Obviously, the feasibility of making the indicated trades depends on the willingness of the Vancouver Canucks and the Edmonton Oilers to “dance”. Basically, the idea is that the ‘Nyucks will be Kesler-less and need a replacement (Pleks) for what he brings. The Oil need to balance their team, trading a star forward for depth on defense. I’m suggesting Emelin as the centrepiece of the package to land Eberle; it could just as easily be Gorges.

    WWSD (What Would SubbieDoo?)

  58. Timo says:

    I can’t wait until Gionta is not a Hab anymore. Same goes for Plekanec, Vanek, Pacioretty. Heck, even Bouillon is giving all he’s got. Habs need a serious upgrade in the leadership department. Regular season floater just don’t do it.

    • Paz says:

      Timo, can you give me an idea of what a good leader would do, what kind of player would he be?

      • Timo says:

        A Jonathan Toews kind of player… ideal a little taller and heavier, but Toews is a great start.

        • Paz says:

          Ok. Jonathan Toews is arguably the best player in the world right now, and arguably the best leader as well.

          So we have to be a little more realistic, is what I’m suggesting.

          We have to try and build with what we have.

          Carey Price, by the way, strikes me as a fantastic leader right now. He’s hurt, which is a huge blow to us. But his play on the ice, his comments about the team, it’s all top end leadership stuff.

          • Timo says:

            Ok. Let me try again. A player that can create something when the rest of the team is struggling. Can score a goal, throw a hit, pick a fight… something that will light fire under the lazy rear ends of this team. A leader that when on the bench, the rest of the players will be afraid to take a shift off.

          • Paz says:

            ya that would be great. like a Mark Messier type of player. not easy to find that kind of player on another team, we would have to develop him ourselves I would say.

            I would say Prust has many of those qualities.

          • D Mex says:

            That’s not leadership – it’s intimidation. Making players ” afraid ” doesn’t work in today’s NHL – it’s a short-term / non-sustainable strategy. Talk to fans in Vancouver about Messier and watch the reaction.

            No surprise to see omiT come out with something like this, tho – he’s got it ass-backwards, as usual.

            ALWAYS Habs –
            D Mex

          • Paz says:

            Messier is considered one of the NHL’s greatest all time leaders. You seem to be a little agitated today.

          • Mr_MacDougall says:

            Paz.. Messier is folk lore.. He was captain of a Ranger team that had far and away the highest payroll in the league and made the playoffs half the time.. Great leader… Was in Vancouver where he had Almo-Bure and hand picked Keenan.. Disastrous.

            Messier’s Leadership is one of the most overstated and misinformed statement in hockey.

            ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

          • D Mex says:

            You don’t really think your little chat partner would know anything about leadership, do you ?

            Messier the great leader – I’ve heard the myth. Funny tho, when I scan the NHL for recent examples, they seem to be in short supply, as in : none . Got his name on a helmet project, tho, so that’s something I guess.

            edit : thanks Mr McD – supports my point.

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            D Mex

          • GrosBill says:

            If you think Messier was not a leader and a super clutch playoff performer, you have not watched enough of those Oiler runs in the eighties, or even their last cup he captained them to before leaving to NY.

            I know he played on a talented team (so did many Hab legends), but in many of those runs he was the backbone and most dangerous Oiler. He always stepped up in a huge way come playoff time.

            Forgive them Messier, they know not what they say.

    • Sportfan says:

      I don’t think Plek has been that bad though.

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  59. Cal says:

    “this isn’t something that can’t be done”
    If you’re the one taking the shot, Gionta, it can’t be done.

    • Led says:

      If he’s not going to score with his wide angle shots then he has to at least start creating rebound opportunities. Start shooting at his feet Gio!

  60. Paz says:

    If we lose tomorrow, that means we will have lost 3 straight in our own barn in the ECF.

    That is simply unacceptable, and I can not see that happening.

    Eliminated in our own building, having lost all 3 games played there?

    No way.

    So we will find a way to win tomorrow, you can bet on that, and then it will come down to Thursday in New York.

    I’m thinking Price might play if we make it to Thursday.

    • shiram says:

      He’s not even putting on his gear, I doubt he’d play even in the Cup finals.
      On that matter, has the injury been reported?

    • knob says:

      If Price is less than 100% and there is any remote chance of re-injuring his knee then I say forget it. Dustin has been solid.

    • mdp2011 says:

      The Habs will win this series precisely for that reason. The Habs have already shown they can win at MSG and no way they lose game 5 and 7 at the Bell Center.

      Habs in 7, Montreal vs Chicago in the Stanley Cup finals.

    • Tis Himself says:

      Goaltending is not the Habs’ problem. Dodgey d and useless forwards are!

    • Cal says:

      If Price’s injury is serious, there’s his future to think about. He’d have to be 100%, otherwise it’s just another mind game.

      • Paz says:

        I saw him, the next day, walking into the arena wearing a knee brace. His walk was very fluid.

        I have some personal experience with knee injuries, and there’s no tear if you are walking like Price the next day with a brace.

        If anything was torn he would be out for the playoffs. But they were careful to say he was out for “this series”.

        It was reported that he was 75%.

        I think he’s a lot closer than we think.

  61. byrneoNL says:

    Respectfully, if no comeback is possible if Gionta keeps getting 20 minutes a game. I know – he’s great in the room. And he’s transitioning to a shut down player at this stage of his career. Except, MT is still trying to use him in offensive situations and he has no speed, and NO SHOT. Both arms surgically stitched back together, and he can barely elevate the puck. Shot is no velocity.

    And he’s stifling Galchenyuk to boot. Galchenyuk gave him several sweet sweet passes last night, and Gionta just doesn’t have the finish man.

  62. Habcouver says:

    Gio is going to have to back up his claim by leading by example. So far, he has not done so in this series. The captain needs to step up and not just provide the lip service. We need to discover that extra gear needed for the playoffs.
    Most of all, Max needs to be a force for the remainder of the series.

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    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Gionta’s been giving his all.

      People need to stop criticizing Brian Gionta.

      Moving. Forward.

      • Paz says:

        He has not played well in this series. But neither has Plekanec or Subban for that matter. Other than a few moments, I would add Markov, Emelin, Pacioretty, Vanek, and of course, Bourque, to that list.

        There are others, many others.

        • FlyAngler says:

          Bourque has played well in this series despite limited ice time. He set up goals in each of the games in New York and has skated and been physical. The true goat last night was DD……

          “Gardez la Foi! Keep the Faith!”

      • Habcouver says:

        I agree that Gio is playing to his max and by no means criticize him for lack of effort. The results are not showing and that’s what hurts to see. The fact that aging players can not give more than expected is a reality but we as passionate fans look for “excuses” or explanations. Sigh.

        I admit Gio is giving his all. Perhaps the entire team is doing the same but the results as they stand now will never be reflected as such. 🙁

        We Are (Not) All Canucks.
        Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

      • Cal says:

        His all ain’t much. He is where scoring chances go to die.

  63. DipsyDoodler says:

    The two games in NY were precisely even. That is why both ended 2-2. We are as good as them; they are as good as us.

    Players are trying. Both teams are shutting each other down.

    A bounce here, a bounce there, (and the first game where they ran Price) and they are up 3-1.

    So there’s really no reason to berate the players or coaches.

    That being said, I don’t see LA having any trouble beating either team.

    Moving. Forward.

    • knob says:

      Regardless of the shot numbers, I think that Dustin has had to be the ‘better’ goalie. Lunqvist is playing behind a much better defence corps.

      Consider Brian Gionta’s slap shot from the blue line vs Martin STL game winner last night for example.

      • johnnylarue says:

        He’s playing behind a much better defensive SYSTEM, more so than a much better D-squad. It’s a skating, positioning, and yes, a *coaching* thing.

    • Habcouver says:

      LA can roll 4 lines pretty darn effectively. Same goes for Chicago. Both teams are pretty scary deep.

      Rangers are good but not great which makes me believe that our Boys could compete in this series but after that, look out!!! 😐

      We Are (Not) All Canucks.
      Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

  64. Led says:

    Revisiting 1998 in my mind (previous thread) I’m reminded of how I felt when we first hired Vinyo. I was so excited that we had a promising young Francophone coach who could grow with us through the years. Fast forward to the present and it will be sad to see him achieve success with the team that possibly beats us out.

    On a related note, how do you think Canuck fans are feeling about his success? Lol It certainly suggests that perhaps there are some shortcomings in their lockerroom.

    • Habcouver says:

      I generally think that Canuck fans liked AV and are happy for his success in NY. He always gave good interviews and seemed to get the most of the talent presented to him.

      It was Mike Gillis who ruined the team.

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      Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

  65. Ian Cobb says:

    N.Y. is a free wheeling team that do not like the bumping game! Prust did his job, but no one else has given the slightest effort. N.Y. has nothing to fear or think about.

  66. Tis Himself says:

    Next time the NHL tries to have an afternoon game at the Bell Center, I suggest the Molsons just respectfully decline and say they had a surprise charity Celine Dionne concert planned for that time!

  67. Tis Himself says:

    ‘This isn’t something that can’t be done’??? Yes, it is when you kill every set of linemates they put you with and keep shooting right into Lundquist’s chest. Might you try to spice it up a bit with a pass now and then?

  68. Ian Cobb says:

    We have not played hard enough to have any injuries.
    It sure is not Price that we are missing!
    The Price that we are willing to pay! is the thing that is missing!
    We are getting the crap knocked out of us all over the rink and N.Y. is permitted to skate at top speed around the rick without a care in the world!!

  69. Danno says:

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  70. JUST ME says:

    Of course it can be done. You do not have any choice anyway but to give it all one game at a time .Ain`t no tomorrow. The guys know they have a good thing going and have had a great run so far. Not worried about them giving everything they can .

  71. knob says:

    It is possible to come back and win the series. Unlike the first two rounds though, there are too many passangers.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Or injuries?
      Argument for 2-3 call-ups?

      • knob says:

        If a player is unable to contribute then said player should be replaced. If Vanek has a wrist/hand injury and is unable to shoot the puck effectively, he should be taken out of the line-up because he doesn’t bring a defensive or physical game and is rendered useless.

  72. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Any time we play our A-game, we beat NY.

    We could do it three times and advance.

    But WILL we do it even once? It hinges on certain players.

  73. DipsyDoodler says:

    Don’t like the use of the passive voice.

    Moving. Forward.

  74. habs001 says:

    They should win Tues and the series will come down to Thurs as Habs win on Sat

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