Canadiens name Therrien coach

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Michel Therrien
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The  Canadiens have announced Michel Therrien as their new head coach. Team announcement here.

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Therrien had a 77-77-23-13 record with the Habs his first go-around behind the bench, between November 2000 and a little more than midway through the 2002-03 season, when he was replaced by Claude Julien. Therrien was 6-6 in the playoffs as Canadiens coach.

Everything suggested the Habs coaching race was a two-man sprint to the finish between Therrien and Marc Crawford, with Patrick Roy having slipped off GM Marc Bergevin’s radar the past few days. Sports Illustrated’s Mike Farber says on Twitter this morning that Crawford was informed Monday night that he was out of the running.

In a classy gesture Tuesday morning, Crawford tweeted in French and English that he appreciated being part of the coach-selection process, and wished good luck to Marc, Michel and “Les Glorieux.”

Below: Michel Therrien in his first stint as Canadiens coach, as he appeared in the team’s 2001-02 media guide.

2,006 Comments

  1. JohnBellyful says:

    Here’s a thought: We should keep this thread alive through to the end of next season. Let other threads come and go but keep this one going, to serve as a timeline that monitors fan reaction to Therrien’s second stint. It would be a live chronicle of history in the making — and one for the Guinness World Records.

  2. issie74 says:

    I am like Hal Gill,I have 29 NHL Teams I can watch.If I don’t like one I can switch the channel (NHL channels),I love hockey !

    NorthTOHab

  3. The Dude says:

    So the majority of Franco’s are dancing in the street about Therrien while a majority of Anglo’s are pissed,just great. You know how I feel today…Fk the Habs ,Therrien,Quebec and blow-up Canada….it’s a failed experiment! Then I watch the news and cry.

    • 44har48 says:

      Yeah man, I’m not happy at all. I will have to give it time and see how it all skakes out, but I am now pessimistic about our chances to be the top 6 team in the East I thought we would be with solid coaching and the right players from our sytem on the ice.

      Having said that, I don’t think it is appropriate to take it out on our friends from the North. I’m not ready to blow up Canada yet :)

      I understand what you mean though and how you feel…

    • HardHabits says:

      Dude. The failed experiment is mankind.

      Canada is less divided than Quebec is. Quebec’s problem is that a very organized and vocal minority have kept the majority hostage and held captive for far too long. Good news is the majority are shedding the Stockholm Syndrome and are becoming fed up with the cute little darlings.

      • The Dude says:

        Bang on about Humankind and glad to hear it’s chilling in Quebec,”have a lot of love for my birth province and all the people there.”Left La Belle in 76 cause always felt the presence of it’s people being manipulated in order to keep wages low, so I went so far west that I ended up on Vancouver Island where moneys stop as soon as you depart the ferry,lol.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        This verges on bigotry, actually.


        Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • petrov14 says:

      Thats just like, uh, your opinion, man.

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  4. Ozmodiar says:

    “If that happens,” he said, “I’ve got 29 teams I can play for.”

    - Hal Gill

  5. TomNickle says:

    I’m having trouble making the connection between Therrien’s time in Pittsburgh and the alleged development that their players went through with him as coach.

    Tony Marinaro said yesterday that Kris Letang developed quite well under Therrien. Bullocks. He was a 33 point player and minus player under Therrien in his second season. When Bylsma took over, Letang scored 13 points in 23 games and in his second year under Bylsma scored 51 and was a plus 15.

    As a matter of fact. The only player to play at a higher level under Therrien as opposed to Bylsma was Evgeni Malkin.

    Malkin coincidentally is about to win the Hart trophy, under Byslma.

    Also, it’s worth noting that Andrei Markov became an elite player following the departure of Michel Therrien during his time in Montreal. Mike Ribeiro? Yep, he broke out following Therrien’s departure. Sheldon Souray? Yeah, him too. He enjoyed his best seasons following Therrien’s dismissal.

    So. What players has Therrien developed well again?

    • Lizardking89 says:

      Great post Tom. Bottom line is he’s a sub par coach and Marinaro rarely knows what the hell he’s talking about.

      • dorvalhabsfan says:

        or you could look at it as his efforts only came to fruition after he got fired… much like in Anaheim where Burke took the credit for another laying the foundation

        Go Habs Go

    • WestHab says:

      Theodore, just the one.

    • HardHabits says:

      What your missing here Tom is that Therrien laid the groundwork for Markov, Ribiero and Souray to become better. It was a piece of cake for the next coach to turn them into superstars, dare I say unleash them, once all the difficult groundwork was already accomplished under the tutelage of Therrien. Same thing for the Pens. Bylsma bought the low Therrien stock just as it was about to rise.

      Bottom line is the Habs are in the running for a shot at drafting McKinnon.

      :-D Just in case anybody missed the evident sarcasm.

  6. joeybarrie says:

    Submitted by Nunacanadien
    “Investments are made to lose money, Molson Coors relies on losses in Canada in its investments to ensure they get maximum profit for the whole investment package. It would be to Molson and his investors to lose money for tax purposes.

    There is also the issue of who actually owns the habs. No one has actually invested where the money trail leads and why Bergevin has been very quiet on many fronts, because the habs ownership committee, there are two of them, want it that way.”

    WHAT? this is not how business works. I think you are not clear on how MolsonCoors was merged and how their venture works. I think you are as clueless to business as you are to reality.
    Molson lives in Montreal. If he wanted, he could involve himself in Toronto. There is nothing that stops him. He invests for profit and personal satisfaction.
    Dont confuse it with nonsense. Its pretty simple to explain.

    • ZepFan2 says:

      Joey,

      Really?! Why would you even acknowledge any post by nuttercanadien?

      If there ever was a troll on HI/O, it’s him/her.

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      • joeybarrie says:

        I was aware, but i noticed a lot of mention of his posts. So I figured I would have a bit of fun.

        • nunacanadien says:

          I guess you guys can’t hear the music, or listen to the endless announcements not made by the GM but by some PR person representing Molson or Molson himself. If you look at wikipedia you’ll see that Molson is only one of many, who sit on two committees, one for the Bell Centre, the other for the Montreal Canadiens hockey club. On this committee sits some very wealthy Toronto based owners, who also through indirect investments also own shares in the MLSE, which actually owns the Leafs. Do the investigation, find out the truth there Red Fisher and Boone, and let’s get the story right for once. This is a tale of some wealthy people who are Maple Leaf fans who bought the habs to make it suck, one: for tax purposes, second: cause they are angry nasty leaf fans. Nothing worse than an irate leaf fan!

  7. K-hab25 says:

    I’ve been coming to this site for 6 years now and the biggest complaints have always been the same, “why can’t we play a full 60 minutes.” Followed by, “we always get out worked by the opposition.” In the last 3 years it’s been those 2 things along with our lack of size. Now Therrien comes in and states the same thing that’s been said, ad naseum, on this site for 6 years and it’s all of the sudden not true. Wow!! I mean he was last on my list of the guys mentioned, but I’m not going to twist the truth to hate on the guy. The fact is we rarely saw a complete 60 minute effort, guys regardless of size, were often outworked in the corners and along the boards. The back checking was as atrocious as was the ability to clear rebounds. Some of it was lack of size, most of it was a lack of effort. I for one have always loved hard asses coaching my teams. I want the players to be held accountable. Funny how the first call he gets to congratulate him, was from the best player in the world. A guy who has no problems giving 110%. It’s the slackers that hate playing for guys like Therrien and Torterella, they know they’ll get called out for lack of effort. Give me Therrien or Torterella over a chump like JM anyday.

    Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007

    • Max_a_million says:

      Please explain how Therrien is like Torterrella?

      • Cal says:

        Their family names begin with “T.” After that, it becomes a stretch.

        • K-hab25 says:

          So neither of you acknowledges that what I said is true? That those 2 things haven’t been complained about ad naseum on this site for 6 years. Wonder why!!

          Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007

          • Cal says:

            “Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007″

            When I saw that I didn’t bother to read any more. ;)

      • K-hab25 says:

        The complaints about both are largely based on there tempers, calling out players in the media and basically being hard asses. Maybe you live under a rock and haven’t heard these criticisms. Both also went to the finals, one won and the other lost, but both made it that far. Oh and both guys heads are usually being called for around year 3, when the hard ass approach wears thin on the privileged players.

        Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007

  8. JohnBellyful says:

    Supplicant: Highly Intelligent One, answer me this. Did the Montreal Canadiens make a big mistake hiring Michel Therrien as their coach?
    HIO: How was the traffic? Light? No? Heavy? That’s what I thought – because you’re the 1,500th person to ask me that question today. Isn’t there a Stanley Cup final being played somewhere? Okay, here’s what I told the others: All will be revealed in the fullness of time.
    Supplicant: Look, I travelled 150 miles, stood in line for three hours, bought a chintzy souvenir so I’d have somethin’ to take back to the wife, forked out six bucks for an overdone burrito – and this is the best you can do? ‘All will be revealed in the fullness of time?’ Are you channelling Darren Dreger?
    HIO: Mock not The Insider. He knows whereof he speaks. Highly Intelligent he’s not. Only I can make that claim. But he’s only a couple of rungs below on the Ladder of Enlightenment, at Reasonably Intelligent. But in answer to your question, no, I am not channelling Darren Dreger. It rained last night and it screwed up the satellite. But I need not the words of another to arrive at the truth: All will be revealed in the fullness of time.
    Supplicant [looking down at a ticket pinned on his shirt that reads Supplicant 1523]: Supplicant? It should read: Sucker! Humour me, then, what is meant by “fullness of time”?
    HIO: Three years tops. As far as Therrien goes. After that he’s gone. Such is the way of the Canadiens.
    Supplicant: Okay, so go back to my original question, was it a big mistake to hire him?
    HIO: Who am I to say? And why now? If I say yes, will that not colour your thinking when the new season starts? Every game you’ll be watching for evidence the Canadiens screwed up. Watching the game – yet not watching the game. And the reason you began watching hockey – to enjoy the sport you grew up loving – will have long been forgotten. Is that what you want? A pair of glasses to see shadows where none exist?
    And if I say no, the Canadiens did NOT make a big mistake bringing back Therrien, you’ll call me a charlatan – sorry, CHarlatan; (don’t mind me, that’s for the person who transcribes my utterances) – when the team fails to win its division next season. So what if it moves up three spots, even four spots but still misses the playoffs. You’ll pull your hair, tell the wife she looks fat in the red dress, and curse cashiers talking on cellphones. All because you thought the team would make the post-season Therrien’s first year back. Now that would be a big mistake – on your part.
    Supplicant: Highly Intelligent One, your words ring true. I was wrong to question your wisdom. I will be patient and let events unfold as they must, and draw what comfort I can when things go well. Just one more question, if I may?
    HIO: You may.
    Supplicant: Could you validate my parking? I did buy a souvenir.
    HIO: Tell Delores to stamp your hand on the way out.

  9. Timo says:

    Still not feeling better… not one iota.

  10. commandant says:

    Sorry Bri, but nothing in Carbo’s career after leaving Montreal suggests he is a capable coach. Flaming out twice is pretty damning.

    As for nuna and his Molson wants the team to fail posts, why do the rest of you fall for such blatantly obvious trolling and baiting?

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  11. The Dude says:

    And now for the real important next move…ditching G-love and Kaberle while not overpaying for Price and possibly the next Bobby Orr,Subban.

  12. Propwash says:

    I’m interested in hearing Boone’s, or Stubbs’ opinion on the hiring of Therrien.

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  13. Bripro says:

    #1771. Woo Hoo!

  14. Marc10 says:

    @Chris.

    Andre Savard, Mike Yeo, Philippe Boucher, Chris Letang, Max Talbot, Fleury and Sid the Kid might disagree with you there.

    But what would they know, right?

    • Chris says:

      We’ll see.

      It’s not something we will ever know, but I feel 100% confident in the assertion that adding Evgeni Malkin and Jordan Staal was more important than adding Michel Therrien, something that is supported by the fact that Therrien did nothing to improve the Penguins in the 51 games that he had with the team before the arrival of those guys.

      We’ve already heard that a number of his veteran leaders couldn’t stand Therrien in Pittsburgh and were delighted when he was fired. But what would those guys know, right?

      Every coach has his proponents and his detractors. Max Pacioretty and David Desharnais absolutely loved Randy Cunneyworth. Scott Gomez not so much.

      Since being fired in the midst of the 2009 season, 25 of the NHL’s 30 teams have performed searches for a new head coach, some of those franchises searching more than once. Nobody picked Therrien. But what would they know, right?

      Therrien’s two interviews in recent years before landing the Montreal gig were with Minnesota (who went for his former assistant Mike Yeo) and New Jersey (who landed Peter DeBoer). Therrien is perceived as a defence first coach. Much of the bitterness from what I would argue is the majority of the Habs’ base about this hiring is that Therrien had his shot and didn’t do much, and we’re turning back to a defensive coach after all hopes were that the franchise would look to try to develop a more entertaining brand.

      The team isn’t going to win next season, regardless of whether they go offensive or defensive. But one of those styles is much more pleasing to watch if we are confronted with another losing season. :)

      • Gerry H says:

        According to Stubbs, Sid was the first person to call Therrien and congratulate him on getting the Habs job. That doesn’t negate the possibility that he is disliked by some vets, but it’s an interesting twist.

        • Bripro says:

          Hi agent, Pat Brisson and Bergevin are supposedly very close. And Sid grew up worshiping the habs.
          He only has one year left on his contract.
          It’s very unlikely the Pens will ever let him go, but one can always dream.

        • Chris says:

          Yep, Crosby definitely had no issue with Therrien who obviously helped him develop quite a bit.

          One of my fears with Therrien was that he might not be so great with kids, but most of the players who seemed to really dislike him were veterans.

          Regardless, we’ll see how it all proceeds.

  15. HabinBurlington says:

    To those suggesting Carbo should have been hired instead of Therrien, I don’t understand why. Therrien has coached 343 games in the Q as Head Coach, 444 games in the AHL as a head coach, and 462 games in the NHL as a head coach.

    Carbo has coached 15 games in the Q as a head coach and 230 games as a head coach in the NHL.

    Since being fired by the Habs, Carbo has coached 15 games in the Q and an abysmal amount of games for the Canadian Under 18 team.

    Since being fired by the Habs, Therrien has coached 185 AHL games, 272 NHL games.

    Just how is it that Carbo has improved his coaching abilities since being fired last time. I don’t think sitting on L’antichambre for 3 or 4 years alone makes a person a better coach. He could at least feign interest in coaching somewhere to show he can learn from the past rather than sitting there saying he wants the job again.

    Edit: I am far from a big supporter of Therrien, I just don’t get the Carbo thing. I do wish MB had chosen differently, but will give MT a chance.

    • habfan53 says:

      I also did not have Therrien at the top of my list (Denis Savard). But I am not totally disappointed. I believe he has changed (matured) since leaving Pittsburgh and big time since Montreal.
      What I don’t understand or know is who are all the non french coaches that Montreal should have hired??
      Wilson, Murray, Renney????
      Robinson does not wantto be the Heach coach so who does that leave?

      Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

    • joeybarrie says:

      Do you (and everyone) think that maybe Therrien has something to prove?
      Fired in a Stanley Cup winning season.
      Made a mistake regardless of how it came about.
      Craig Patrick thought enough of him to hire him as coach for the Penguins.
      Craig Patrick was one of the best GMs i can think of.
      It seems silly to me to write him off before he has gotten a chance to do something.
      Also for those saying he is an interim coach until someone better is available….. Thats every hiring ever.

    • Malreg says:

      Amen.

      Carbo even said that if Muller would have asked him to be an assistant coach in Carolina he would have said no, because he only wants a Head Coach position.

      His sit-around and wait for Head Coaching job attitude is not something I want.

    • Bripro says:

      Sorry Gerry. I don’t agree.
      Carbo had an excellent record, first time around, and led the team to first overall in the Conference.
      Whether he boinked someone’s girlfriend (unsubstantiated rumour) or Gainey’s ego got in the way, we’ll never know.
      But he had the team on a roll, and I believe they would have gone farther into the post-season had he stayed there.
      Even with the mutinous players he had.

    • mdp2011 says:

      Totally agree about Carbo! I am also not a big supporter of Therrien, in fact I really don’t like him, as I mentioned many times on this site, I wanted Roy. But, to read all these Anglo journalists in the rest of Canada condemn the hiring and say the Habs should have hired Crawford is real joke. They are making it sound like the Habs missed out on Scotty Bowman or Toe Black by not hiring Crawford. Sorry, but Crawford is the anglo version of Therrien.

  16. habfan53 says:

    I have read several posts that indicate Geoff Molson lives in Toronto and that he wants the team to fail. Please tell me where you get this rubish. Molson lives in Montreal and according to the habs site sits onnthe board of St Mary’s Hospital Foundation.
    And as a succesfull business man why would he want the team to fail??

    • HardHabits says:

      nuna is HIO’s resident paranoid schizophrenic.

    • Dr.Rex says:

      I can confirm that Mr Molson does live in Montreal. HE is a devot Montrealer and a over the top habs fan.

      These assertions that he lives elsewhere are false and more far fetched then a eklund e1 on a sunday night.

      • nunacanadien says:

        Hardhabits you don’t know me and this counts as a snub. I haven’t insulted you in any way. All I’ve done is to show everyone that the habs are not only owned by Geoff Molson, but the two committees that own the habs, the majority investment owners have addresses in and near Toronto. If you do more investigation, some of them have Boston and New York alternate addresses through their Molson Coor’s joint venture. Not all joint ventures are made to succeed, some joint ventures are set up to fail or lose money, and are used as tax shelters.

  17. Timo says:

    Got to work and looked at Therrien’s clueless mug again. Nope… not feeling any better about the hiring today.

  18. Marc10 says:

    I can’t believe the Flames didn’t look at all candidates like Ted Nolan or Terry Murray…

    And now Hartley is bringing Cloutier with him. Sad to see another franchise corrupted by the language thing.

    Sorry… Just couldn’t help it;-)

    • mrhabby says:

      Jay Feester brought in his buddy Hartley…they go way back.

      • boing007 says:

        Bringing in one’s buddies is not always a recipe for success. This is a professional hockey team not an old boys club/mutual admiration society.

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  19. TomNickle says:

    I see Dean Lombardi has assembled an elite team. But do they end up anywhere near elite without Darryl Sutter? I don’t think so.

    Sutter the GM was creeping up on Milbury territory. Sutter the coach has always been great.

    • mrhabby says:

      The Kings core is young and i think most of them are locked in to long term contracts. Not really sure if elite in the salary cap era is possible but i like the team and why Darryl did not stick to coaching is weird.

  20. Les Canayens says:

    For all the Roy fans, live press conference on his non-hire:

    http://www.radio-canada.ca/widgets/mediaconsole/live/net69

    • Les Canayens says:

      My attempt at live blog:

      11:35am – Roy met Bergevin in Miami, which Roy appreciated that MB traveled all the way to see him.

      11:40am – Roy feels his work with the Ramparts may played a role in retaining interest for him. He enjoyed the interview process, respect the Habs decision and wishes Therrien the best.

      11:42am – In no time he could’ve guessed his chance of getting the job. Bergevin was more intended to know him at anything else.

      11:44am – When asked if his dream remains to become Habs coach, he replied his dream was to play in the NHL. Coaching is more like a adventure when he had no idea what to expect.

      11:46am – When asked if he was ready to leave the Remparts and all that he’s done for his team, Roy says he was not far enough with Bergevin’s interview to worry about it. Tanguay, his team’s partner adds there’s no plan B with Roy. Everything rest on him.

      11:50am – Bergevin called Roy yesterday morning to tell him the team took a decision.

      11:55am – Roy says he does not feel his media presence was a hindrance in Bergevin’s decision. He’s more present in Quebec because he has less things to participate. If he’s in Montreal he’ll be less present in the media because of increased commitments.

      11:58am – “I’m not an one man show”. Roy says he told Bergevin if he feels the team does not fore check enough, just tell him, cause he’s a team guy, unlike certain media image of him which annoys him.

      12:01pm – He prefers being a coach than GM cause he likes being close to the players, and says a GM travels by himself, is in the office by himself. He does not dislike being a GM, but definitely prefers being a coach.

      - Time to get my daughter to school -

      • ths says:

        He also said he wanted 3 new statues of himself outside and in the lobby before he could seriously consider coaching the Habs.

        Ooh Aah Habs on the war path

  21. John Q Public says:

    What no assistant coach’s yet.
    Its day 2 c’mon!

  22. Ian Cobb says:

    The fun is back on HIO, your 10,000 different opinions matter!

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Unfortunately Ian, in reading some of yesterdays post the team has lost some fans. Perhaps when the teams fortunes change they will return. I miss them already. :)

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      • Lizardking89 says:

        Can’t blame them really this organization is a farce based on the language issue not getting the best people for the job. As long as they do that they’ll continue to lose fans.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Ian, I read your post earlier about how the Habs should hire whoever assembled the L.A. Kings. It is important to remember that the Kings have been considered underachievers the past few seasons. In fact rumours abounded whether or not Lombardi would have his job as GM as this past season came about.

      It is a tribute to the ownership that they were patient and believed in the long term plan that Lombardi had. They are also fortunate that Sutter was available and has done such a wonderful job putting the final coaching touches on that roster.

      It also didn’t hurt them that Jeff Carter quit on Columbus in less than one season and they were able to acquire him as they had an abundance of Dmen thus able to make trade. However, for the Kings sake, they better hope Carter doesn’t quit on them in the near future as they have his contract for quite some time.

      But end of day, Lombardi has indeed put together a very nice solid roster all the way through. Good thing he didn’t trade his captain Dustin Brown as he reportedly was want to do, just prior to trade deadline.

  23. awesomerino says:

    As down as I was on the Therrien hiring when I first heard the news, I have to say he came off really well at the press conference. He really sounds like he’s evolved. I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now and be cautiously optimistic.

  24. L Elle says:

    I was hoping for something out of left field, and did it ever come from way way left field. ha

    Having about 24 hours to digest it, and having watched, listened and read everything, it’s not as bad as I would have thought.

    In fact Therrien is a very good coach, if he has matured, and is now able to contain himself.

    It’s not a “sexy” hire like Yzerman/Boucher, but more like a sensible pair of shoes. Those stilettos sure look good, but don’t get you far. (and I mean walking, not the other thing) :)

    We Hab fans like to dream big because of past success. A “sexy” coach is not what our team needs, but a workhouse to get this team going after a horrendous season, much like what he did in Pittsburgh. As Hitchcock did in St. Louis and Sutter in LA.

    Malkin – Calder

    Crosby – Hart

    Theodore – Hart and Vezina

    I still trust MB and Co., and as I’m not privy to all the back story, I’m supporting Therrien until new data changes my mind.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Always so rational? :)

    • Habfan10912 says:

      That’s the right tude. There will be plenty of nights where we can question the coach but I prefer to wait until he does something to warrant it. In the meantime as you so eloquently stated, I will trust MB.

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    • Chris says:

      Therrien’s contributions to turning around Pittsburgh are, at least to me, insignificant when compared to the additions of Evgeni Malkin and Jordan Staal.

      Therrien’s “turnaround” ability with the Penguins should be based on what he did in his first season when he took over for the lightly regarded Ed Olczyk. Olczyk had a record of 8-17-6 (35.5% of the available points) when he was fired, and Therrien stepped in and guided the Penguins to a record of 14-29-8 (35.3% of the available points).

      Not much improvement when you frame it like that, is it?

      Malkin and Staal gave the Penguins tremendous complimentary players to go with the core of Crosby, Malone, Gonchar and Whitney. Throw in the continued development of Colby Armstrong, Maxime Talbot, Erik Christensen and Marc-Andre Fleury in their second seasons and you’ve got the core for a pretty rapid turnaround regardless of coach.

      Therrien may very well do an okay job with the Habs. But he won’t be here when they contend for a Stanley Cup.

      • L Elle says:

        Time will tell Chris, and Bylsma has only won 1 round with that roster after winning the Cup. I’d rather “pretend” the glass is half full .;)

        • Chris says:

          No question. I just don’t see the “turnaround” that everybody has talked about. Therrien had 51 games to turn the Penguins around in 005-06 and they actually did nothing better.

          Therrien was to the Penguins what Randy Cunneyworth was to the Montreal Canadiens. Was Cunneyworth given consideration?

          No, because people felt the team needed to move forwards. I’m not sure hiring a coach that wasn’t particularly successful in his previous incarnation in Montreal and needed one of the most staggering collections of talent in the modern NHL to execute his much ballyhooed turnaround is that guy.

          Personally, I would have much preferred to see the team go outside the box, but as Steve pointed out, Bergevin was painted into a bit of a corner. By going with an inexperienced GM, the franchise basically signalled the bench boss needed to have some NHL experience. I don’t think they could afford to be breaking in a new coach as well, as the pressure if things didn’t get off to a good start in the Fall would have been insane.

          There is still a chance to salvage a rather uninspiring situation, depending on who they hire as assistant coaches. But my optimism for this franchise is certainly evaporating.

  25. otisfxu says:

    Everyone should relax, look at the big picture. MT will do a respectable job with the team he has now. There is no need to hire your A-1 coach until you have an A-1 team, and that is not this current roster.

    MT is a filler until the team is a legit contender. then you make sure you have the right guy behind the bench

    • nunacanadien says:

      Since when have the owners ever thought like us fans? Never. You think they ever will? No. Let’s just hunker down like some other bottom feeding team, we’ll call the habs the Chieftans North, all we need is Paul Newman to don a Captain’s badge and the picture would be complete. I’m just wondering how long before we get the goon brothers….wonder how long before Molson scouts the Hanson brothers? All we are missing is the bald guy with a toupee…oh wait we have plenty of washed up sports writers who can’t see the picture for what it really is in Montreal…….mark my words, one day fans will riot against the habs owners……

      • HabinBurlington says:

        You really are fixated with this ownership thing nuna. Do you really believe Molson puts up that much of his personal wealth just to piss it away? He purchased the team at arguably the worst time as its value had not been higher, this would speak to the fact that he wants to own the team to win, not as an investment. Don’t get me wrong, he isn’t looking to lose money, but I really think you have misjudged Geoff Molson, in my opinion.

        • nunacanadien says:

          Investments are made to lose money, Molson Coors relies on losses in Canada in its investments to ensure they get maximum profit for the whole investment package. It would be to Molson and his investors to lose money for tax purposes.

          There is also the issue of who actually owns the habs. No one has actually invested where the money trail leads and why Bergevin has been very quiet on many fronts, because the habs ownership committee, there are two of them, want it that way.

  26. Chris says:

    Sad to see the passing of one of the legends of international hockey, Vladimir Krutov, at age 52. Often known as “The Tank”, Krutov was in many respects a very North American hockey player. A natural goal scorer, he was immensely powerful (at 5’9″ and 194 pounds, he relied on power and leverage to bull his way around the ice).

    Unfortunately, his legacy was tarnished by his brief foray into North American hockey, playing one uneventful season with Vancouver at age 29 before departing to play in Europe again. It is worth noting that his “disaster” of a season, 11 goals and 34 points in 61 games, was not much worse than that of his longtime linemate Igor Larionov put up that same season (17 goals and 44 points in 74 games), but he never really got the chance to adjust to North American hockey the way Larionov did. Larionov only broke out in his third NHL season, putting up identical numbers to those of Krutov in season two (13 goals and 34 points in 64 games).

    In international hockey, Krutov was a beast. He was the left wing on one of the best lines in hockey history, the KLM line. His performance on the world stage (73 goals and 137 points in 112 games played over 7 World Cups, 3 Canada Cups and 3 Olympic Games stand up with the legends of the sport.

    In the famous Canada Cup of 1987, his 7 goals ranked second only to Mario Lemieux’s 11 goals and his 14 points ranked him fourth behind Gretzky, Lemieux and linemate Sergei Makarov, august company indeed.

    On the World Junior stage, Krutov was also outstanding. He posted 15 goals and 25 points in 11 games, helping the Soviet Union win two gold medals. He led the tournament in scoring both seasons and was named the top forward both times.

    It always saddened me that we never got to see his brilliance in the NHL until his career was reaching its zenith. I hope that people will remember his legacy of greatness and finally forego the hurtful comments about his weight that he endured after his first NHL season.

    • habsfan0 says:

      With all due respect to the recently departed, there is no doubt Krutov was an excellent player.

      But he was no Valeri Kharlamov.

      • Chris says:

        And there is absolutely no relevance to that comment, to be honest.

        • habsfan0 says:

          Relevancy is in the eye of the poster.

          • Chris says:

            Jean Beliveau was no Wayne Gretzky.

            Does that change the fact that Jean Beliveau is one of the legends of the sport?

            Like I said, your comment was irrelevant, bordering on inane.

          • habsfan0 says:

            Actually,IMHO,Jean Beliveau was a GREATER hockey player than Wayne Gretzky.

            Which is neither here nor there.

            As far as casting disparaging comments on other people’s posts speaks significant volumes about you, however.

            Hopefully, you won’t find this comment too “inane.”

          • Chris says:

            Isn’t it funny that you replied to my “Jean Beliveau is no Wayne Gretzky” comment with the reply that “It is neither here nor there”? That was exactly my point…it is completely irrelevant to who Jean Beliveau was that Wayne Gretzky holds all the records and is widely perceived (especially outside of Montreal) as the “greater” player.

            It is equally irrelevant to state that Vladimir Krutov is no Valeri Kharlamov, particularly when the post you were replying to was a discussion of Krutov’s illustrious career and made no attempt to “rank” him in the pantheon of former Soviet Union players. Please, just explain to me what the relevance in your eyes there was to the comment about Kharlamov in a discussion of Krutov’s hockey life?

            When somebody dies and their legacy is being discussed, it is rather crass and boorish to dismiss them with a “Well, he was no ___________” comment. If you can’t see the inanity of that, I suggest you try it the next time you hear a eulogy for somebody. See how it goes over.

            I’ve got years upon years and thousands of posts on this website to back up by credibility as somebody who is generally polite. That being said, I found your post to be indefensibly crass, and I have no problem standing behind my post labelling it as inane. I am also reasonably comfortable with the “volumes” that are said about my character for labelling your comment, because I felt that it contributed absolutely nothing to a discussion of Krutov’s hockey life.

            Somebody died, and your first thought was “I liked this other guy more.” Think about that for a second, and decide which one of our comments speaks more to our moral character.

          • habsfan0 says:

            Perhaps you didn’t take the time to read my comment in its entirety. I prefaced my remarks with:”With all due respect to the recently departed”. In case you didn’t comprehend what that meant, I will attempt to explain it..It means my subsequent words mean no disrespect to Krutov. Apparently, YOU are the one who took great offence to it by claiming it was inane,irrelevant, and highly disrespectful. Obviously, you are an individual who is EXTREMELY sensitive to those individuals who you perceive as disagreeing with your posts in any way,shape,or form. That IS your prerogative. However, in the future, kindly refrain from posting disparaging remarks about individual posters who you don’t see eye to eye with, because contrary to your assertion that “I’ve got years upon years and thousands of posts on this website to back up by credibility as somebody who is generally polite.” you have just proven yourself wrong.

          • Chris says:

            You are copping out. It does not nullify rudeness when you say “I don’t mean to be rude” and then proceed to say something rude.

            I have no problem with people arguing or disagreeing with me, even if it is quite passionate. But there was no disagreement or discussion there…you made a statement (and one that the vast majority of hockey fans agree with, including myself) that really had no bearing on what I posted. Hence my assertion that it was a rather irrelevant (and ultimately irreverent) reply that set this discussion off.

          • habsfan0 says:

            Why do you constantly allude to something I’ve said..when in fact I never said it? “You are copping out. It does not nullify rudeness when you say “I don’t mean to be rude” and then proceed to say something rude.” I never said “I don’t mean to be rude”. So,why do you quote me on an imagined sentence?

            And as far as MY post being irrelevant, one might suggest that yours is as well…which would amount to equally convoluted thinking so I won’t go there.

            I don’t pretend to be erudite and all knowing, but the fact that you would take it upon yourself to describe yourself this way:”I’ve got years upon years and thousands of posts on this website to back up by credibility as somebody who is generally polite.” is quite telling. Don’t you think it would be incumbent upon “OTHER PEOPLE” to decide whether or not you are “credible” and are “generally polite”?

            Once again..speaks volumes.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Rest in peace. Taken too young.

      ———————————–

    • HabinBurlington says:

      His days in Vancouver unfortunately were known even more for all the weight he put on. He showed up to training camp very unfit and quickly his nickname became Kruton instead of Krutov.

      Loved watching that line play for Russia, but his foray into North America did not go so well. Sad to see him pass so young indeed Chris.

      • Chris says:

        People forget that Krutov was incredibly homesick that season. He did not adjust well at all to North American culture. One of the symptoms of depression is weight gain.

        I also recall people ranting and raving about how out of shape Alexei Emelin was in training camp this past season. Fortunately, he was allowed to work himself into shape behind the scenes (Martin played that very well) while he adjusted to a new life, a luxury that Krutov never enjoyed.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I didn’t bring it up to slam him Chris, just making the observation. Because I was living out west at the time, I remember how the media just ripped him badly, was sad. It was clear the cultural change was not easy for him. And for what its worth, I didn’t think Emelin was “overweight” people overreacted to a picture. Perhaps he wasn’t in as good of shape as he could be, but he was far from Fat as many here called him.

          • Chris says:

            I remember it well…the Canucks were always my second favourite team in the NHL, and my father was a massive fan of the Soviet Union’s national hockey team. He couldn’t stand NHL hockey, but he felt that the Soviets played the sport the right way (of course, he was Danish, so I think he appreciated the symmetry between Soviet hockey and more familiar sports to him like soccer).

            I was so excited to see Krutov and Larionov join the Canucks, but they were shadows of the players they had been with the Soviets. These were people who had fought for much of their life to get the freedom to choose where to play. It took most of them (Makarov had the best opening season) some years to adapt, but Krutov never really got the chance.

            It really was cruel how the media went after Krutov. Most of those stories are now his legacy, which is sad. We lionize somebody like Carey Price or Jordan Eberle or Jonathan Toews based on their World Junior performances, so why not somebody like Krutov whose performance in those tournaments was even more amazing?

            Critics always point to that he benefited from playing for a Soviet team against weaker competition in the Olympics and the World Championships, but he was as good or better when given the chance to star against the best the NHL could offer up as well.

        • VancouverHab says:

          Well said — myself, I loathe the Canucks, but Krutov was a beast and I would have loved his power, skill, and class on any Habs team.

          May he rest in well-deserved peace: he is honourably remembered.

  27. FanCritic says:

    You pick who should be coaching the Habs as per their coaching career.

    Crawford – 26 under .500
    Therrien – 19 under .500
    Hartley – 4 over .500
    Carbonneau – 9 over .500

    Carbo for me, I don’t think the teams he coached were better than the teams Crawford, Therrien and Hartley coached that should count for something…

  28. habsfan0 says:

    Draft is now 16 days away. How much input will Michel Therrien have in deciding who the Habs select?

  29. HabinBurlington says:

    Vladimir Krutov of the famed KLM line has passed away at age 52. I was living in Vancouver area when the Canucks brought him to their team and he ate his way off that team.

    That was one great line to watch play for Red Army.

    RIP Krutov.

    http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/vladimir_krutov_passes_away_at_52/

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Crazy. When he came over, the pundits were predicting that he would have the most success of any player on the KLM line, since he was built like a tank and skated like the wind. He did seem to be the type who needed Soviet austerity and discipline to be successful. Weird how much his path diverged from Igor Larionov.

      ———————————
      In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

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  30. punkster says:

    …and furthermore…the only problem I see with MT’s return is he doesn’t have a powerhouse winger like Juha Lind to anchor his second line like he did the first time around.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • HabinBurlington says:

      haha, you know Punkster, I think there is something to be said for MB’s point that MT does know what to expect from the fans and media pressure, as opposed to a rookie coach (as MT was last time around) or a coach who has never coached in a major hockey market like Montreal. Having said that Crawford did have experience from his days in Quebec City, but I think MT’s experience should be invaluable in doing a better job this time around.

    • Mattyleg says:

      HA!

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Wait, I just pushed the wrong key on my computer and lost my entire document! Juha Lind… really… I almost fell off of my chair. A period of time forgotten by most of the sentient Habs fans still alive today.

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    • arcosenate says:

      Scott Thornton for Juha Lind, another doozy.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Bloop.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

  31. Hey, does anyone know the record for postings on an article thread on HIO? Just wondering if this is a record passion setter. Also, wonder what Kerry Fraser’s opinion is since MT was caught in a lie during the Carolina loss after he was penalized for saying F to Fraser? I like Fraser (and that is saying plenty since most of the officials aren’t worth the jersey they wear during most games. Think Lee people) and his opinions are fair and balanced (unlike Fox news…)

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  32. punkster says:

    Would it be too much to ask people to use actual quotes from Therrien’s press conference yesterday to make their points? I notice some here cherry picking quotes from his days with the Pens and attributing them to yesterday’s interview.

    Now this quote, from Boone’s article, attributed to yesterday’s conference, is interesting: “I’m taking over a team that finished last in the Eastern Conference,” he said. “We’re going to go step by step, and we’re going to get better and better.”

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I listened to Bergevin yesterday talking to the Fan590 in Torona, and he specifically spoke to the fact he talked to Therrien about what went wrong in both Montreal and Pittsburgh. MB also mentioned he spoke to others involved in both cities to confirm that what MT said went wrong was indeed correct and that MT recognizes that. I found the interview very good and was far more comfortable afterwards. MB went on to say that communication between himself and MT is critical. MB also stated in no uncertain terms that player personel decisions are his and not MT, and furthered that by stating if players don’t buy into the system and hardwork they will not be playing.

    • Duh! Can we get any worse than 15th in the East? Nope! So by default, MT will do better or no worse which is still pretty bad. Yes, I saw the whole presentation in English and Quebecois and for the most part, his English ability to express himself was pretty poor, surprisingly since he’s been in the US for a number of years. Albeit, the American perception of hockey is pretty much still that Montreal players are better, so if you are a “Frenchie” then you are automatically good. I get that all the time at pick-up games in Westchester county in New York where I live. Everyone automatically expects me to be Guy Lafleur like just because I grew-up in Montreal and I am so far from that skill level, but ignorance is bliss, so I play it up to get the occasional fake-out and goal. So I think there was some level of miscommunication. As for his AC pals, they will now simply roast him too, as they are all jealous, especially that bigoted block head Raymond and clearly his ability to communicate in English was not a priority which considering that the NHL is primarily an English market sport is quite a bad move. Sure SOME of the fans want to be spoken to en Quebecois by a Pure Laine “boys”, but come on, this isn’t a sandbox, this is real business in North America and until someone who owns the Canadiens gets that as well as their commitment to their fans and not the 200 or so drunk, xenophobic bigots that show up waving Quebec’s flag, then the identity and performance of the Habs will continue to suffer. Kinda like the province itself… but that’s another discussion.

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  33. habs-hampton says:

    Fire Therrien!

    It’s been almost 24 hours, and we still can’t hold a 3rd period lead, Price is still playing too many games and PK is still making too many risky plays!

  34. Ozmodiar says:

    I figure the team will be competitive (top 4 in conference) by 2014. Any success before then will be somewhat of a bonus.

    So, Therrien will coach the youngsters for a couple of years. If he’s as bad as everyone thinks, he’ll be fired at around the time the roster is ready to compete for the cup. Alternatively, he’ll do a good job behind the bench and stay on.

    It could be that Bergevin wants him to do exactly what he did in Pitt. In the meantime, there’s familiarity, so he won’t mess with his long-term plan.

  35. Strummer says:

    Off topic for moment-

    June 6 is an important date for 2 reasons:

    June 6 1944 Operation Overlord 155,000 troops invade Normandy
    (including my dad). Largest invasion by sea in history.

    June 6, 1962- 50 years ago today- the Beatles – whose drummer at the time was Pete Best went into the studio for the first time with George Martin. They recorded “Love Me Do”.

    Martin wasn’t keen on the drummer and the rest we say is history as he was repalced that summer by Ringo. ” Love me Do”was re-done in October with Alan White on drums. That was the version released as their first single. There is a dispute whether it was White or Ringo on that session.

    Cheers!

    ______________________________________________________
    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  36. HABZ24 says:

    Terrien is not a players coach he called out his dmen pubiclly said they only give 50 percent. Defensive style again nooooo cant take it. I wanted robinson. Not happy. Bad move bergevin

    • Cardiac says:

      If you had bothered to take the time to watch the presser yesterday, you would know that he got management’s support in calling out his players. Would you rather have Martin’s cliches or wet-blanked indifferent Cunneyworth instead? I for one will be happy when Therrien calls out Kaberle, Bourque and Gomez on their laziness.

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      - Jerry Maguire

    • habs-hampton says:

      Robinson does not want the job. Therrien was the only French-speaking coach left with NHL experience.

  37. HABZ24 says:

    Really is he the best we could get

    • Strummer says:

      Yes it would seem to the Hab braintrust given the parameters of the search.

      ______________________________________________________
      “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  38. Gerry H says:

    Chapeau to Dave Stubbs for a balanced (and very well written) piece on the hire.

    Please let me know where I can send the dry cleaning bill for my suit, coffee-stained thanks to the following: “Compared to Pierre Gauthier, his sometimes lifelike predecessor, Bergevin has been a breath of communicative fresh air…”

  39. nunacanadien says:

    Bergevin and Therrien, a different version of Gauthier and Martin/Cunney. Same old Same old. Now I know the habs owners want this team to suck big time. I supported Bergevin but really, now I know he is just another cog in the wheel to destroy the habs. For a million dollars would you make your fav team of your whole life suck? Bergevin and Therrien, I am speaking directly to you. How can you make this happen? Red Fisher and Boone, how can you report the story in a way that makes it look like these two men are steering the ship when really the hand of Molson and his management committee shows big time, with all these news releases!

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      Why would they want this team to “suck big time”?
      That doesn’t even make sense.

      they suck = no playoffs = decline in revenue.

    • Cardiac says:

      “Bergevin and Therrien, I am speaking directly to you.”

      WTF? I think it’s time for your happy pills…

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      - Jerry Maguire

    • One historical factoid that is left out is that each time the Molson’s owned the team, they did worse by the time that they sold it. I don’t know if it is a conspiracy, since it is their money they are losing. Currently, the team has a value of less than what they paid for it ($500 million) and as one of the most expensive teams in the NHL, with one of the few profits in the league, the Molson’s aren’t in the business of losing money. They just have a track record of losing money with the Habs as an asset. http://ourhistory.canadiens.com/article/Habs-Owners-Through-The-Years

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      • nunacanadien says:

        It’s called a tax break for Molson Coors and their American investors. Let’s call it what it really is. Since when did the Molsons ever care about Quebec?

  40. frontenac1 says:

    Will Crosby be a Hab? GM is buddies with his agent,check.Loves playing for Mike,check.Habs fan growing up,check. One year left on his contract,check.Speaks some french,check. Playing in the centre of hockey universe ,check. My palms are shaking and can’t type anymore ,ccchheeeccckkkkk

    • nunacanadien says:

      Check, the powers that be want the habs to suck. That includes a bunch of rich americans who own the parent company that pulls Geoff Molson’s strings….the great puppet Molson is ensuring we continue with bland hockey in Montreal……Molson Coors is owned by Americans……but hey when the committee sits in Toronto, you think Toronto based investors care whether the habs win or not? I don’t think so, if anything they would sabotage this team like they have.

  41. New says:

    Man what a rough ride before you even get the office keys.

    If you look at Therrien’s record in context it isn’t that bad. (When he was fired from the Habs the team did worse under Julien for instance.)

    If you hear what he said you see he is actually thinking about the team and players. (Wondering if there is a conditioning/third period out of gas/injury link for instance.)

    Then you begin to think, ok, this guy seems technically sound, has experience, and had time to sit back and think about the game from the wings. Plus he wants the job a lot. You think that this might be a good choice, especially once the assistants are filled out.

    Then you read the comments. Road rage is the wrong term but closest to a polite description.

    The Bell boo-birds never give a player, the team, or staff a chance. Is this really what HIO has devolved to?

    • Aw, c’mon! MT was under .500 with the Canadiens and is at the same level in his entire career. That is far from satisfactory. Do I know why Julien, Vignault and others are doing so well at other teams? Nope, but MT is hardly a winning coach.

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      • Thomas Le Fan says:

        He is well over .500 over his career. Check your facts.

        • Cher Thomas! I love facts. I am a research ho and I am also a realist. His NHL stats are the following;
          G462 W212 L182 T22 OTL46 .604
          The way I and most thinking folks book these numbers is that we lost 228 games. To hell with .604. OTL is part of the stupid three point system that props up middling teams to keep somewhat of a parity and add revenue to poorer teams. Just look at our team last year. Do you consider those overtime losses as a point, or a loss, especially in our weak third periods. Bottom line, MT lost more games than he won. Fin discussion!

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        • FanCritic says:

          sorry Thomas – He’s 19 games under .500 that’s real facts

    • Cardiac says:

      Therrien was coach during a period where our forwards consisted of players like Jan Bulis, Richard Zednik, Juha Lind, Patrick Poulin, Oleg Petrov, Chad Kilger, Andreas Dackell, and Brian Savage.

      The only reason for any success was the Hart winning performance of Theodore. I think it’s safe to say Therrien has a better core of players this time around.

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      - Jerry Maguire

  42. VintageFan says:

    The “management dream team” as someone called them cannot afford another unpopular event. Think the $$$$ for Price/Subban/Emelin just went up?? The RFAs are probably all smiles today.
    And after a night to sleep on it, I still think it’s a dumb hire

    • We’ll need many nights before the first 15 games before seeing whether he has anyone in the dressing room buying into his style and system, whatever that is now. We need to score goals, take shots from the inside and get into the dirty areas in front of the net which we didn’t do very well. Add that to my list of things we need to improve.

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  43. Saundies says:

    Ugh this is what I was hoping wouldn’t happen, but it’s looking more and more like that’s the way it’s going to go down with CLB picking Gally and the Habs ending up with Forsberg… Now I’m sure Forsberg will be a good player, but Galchenyuk’s the guy I want 100%. The injury this year was the only thing that kept him from challenging for the #1 spot, and this guy has some serious star potential.

    If I were MB I’d trade up with Columbus to get that second pick to grab him. If they are really high on him as well, it might take a pretty good offer to get him. If it were me:

    To CLB: 3rd overall, David Desharnais (possibly one the 2nd round picks)
    To MTL: 2nd overall, (possibly a 3rd/4th, or their 2nd round pick to offset our 2nd)

    CLB gets the 3rd overall, which they would probably use to select either Murray or Forsberg. They would also get Desharnais, a dimunitive (but very skilled) centre who had a break out year last year in only his second year playing on the Habs first line and would make an immediate impact on the Blue Jackets roster next year. If this isn’t enough, they also get a decently high 2nd rounder, depending on which one the Habs are willing to part with.

    MTL gets Galchenyuk, a future first, blue chip centre who is presumably going to be ready for the NHL in 2 years (just 1 more year of junior). They also get to right their ship with their current NHL depth chart at the C position; right now, they currently have 3 2nd line centres, but only one second line. With this trade, Plekanec moves up on this first line where he belongs (on this current team, ideal 2C on any other team) and Eller moves into a bigger role on the 2nd line where he is put in a position to break out and excel this year (he has all the tools). You can go get a third line centre through the UFA market, as Montreal has done the last 5-6 years.

    This may seem like an overpayment to some, but it helps the Habs get bigger by getting rid of DD and adding Gally/New 3C. In my opinion, DD isn’t really a long term plan unless he turns into a Marty St. Louis and barring a miracle, they’re not going to win the cup next year so why not prepare for the future by ensuring you get the centre you’ve wanted for the last 15 years at least?

    • Gumper Knows Best says:

      Desharnais isn’t going anywhere. There is enough street protest going on and we don’t need another

      • Saundies says:

        So you’re saying the GM shouldn’t make trades just because the fans might not like it right away? Makes sense.. might as well get your whole manhood region chopped off while you’re at it.

        “The team’s too small” – this allows us to get bigger
        “We don’t have/can’t get a #1 centre” – the allows us to cash in on one.

        Bottom line is us as Habs fan whine about everything, but aren’t open to do anything to change the situation. You have to give up players to get players. Be honest, is David Desharnais a #1 centre in the NHL? If your answer is yes, you’re either way too optimistic or a tad delusional. If it’s no, like it should be, then ask yourself this: Is a fully developed Alex Galchenyuk a #1 centre? In my opinion, based on his raw characteristics at this stage, yes he is. This means that Galchenyuk has way more upside than Desharnais, and DD would be worth the sacrifice in a couple of years when Gally was ready to take on first line duties. Until then, we have two other centres to fill the void with in Plekanec and Eller.

  44. Over 1600 comments so far! Wow, that says something about the passion of Habs fans and for the most part, they are right. No need to throw the team except for a few select players under the bus because of a lack of work ethic. Thank God he pointed out the thoroughbred Subban, Price, Pleks and the first line as well as Markov. That’s 7 out of 21 plus players and he’s just about right. To be fair, there were only a few others who worked hard every time they were on the ice;
    Emelin
    Eller
    White
    Stuabitz
    Gionta (injured, hurting and the Captain with a heart who is his first call. Smart…)
    Moen… maybe
    Blunden… maybe
    Gorges of course (how many more pucks can hit this poor guy!)
    That would leave a total of 13-15 leaving gaping holes and a need to fill 7 or more positions on the roster, especially the weak Swiss cheese D. Did they not work hard (Weber, Diaz, Noki, Kaberle, Crampoli, Darche-he works hard, just doesn’t have the hands and head, Bourque, Palu, Geoffrion, Engqvist). I won’t get into LL and St. Denis as they need more development time before trashing them and trading them so that they can excel on other teams.
    We don’t need to talk about Gomez. There is no positive there except for his excellent wheels to get the puck in the offensive zone only to give it up without a shot or play. An enigma. 33 and ready to retire.
    So is MT right to say the team didn’t have a work ethic? No. They had serious issues with;
    -No power play
    -No third period intensity and follow-through
    -No forecheking except for Cole and a couple of others on select nights
    -Poor defensive end puck control and possession, lack of vision in the D zone
    -Turnovers at center ice/neutral zone.
    Do I see lack of effort? Sure, with those listed as fodder, but nobody can expect a team that lacks wholly a third if it’s roster on any given night to be a contender. I doubt that MT doesn’t realize these things, more alarming was his lack of English proficiency which is funny when you consider the whole English flap and the fact that MT has been in the US for so long. I guess communication in English isn’t a priority, but it should be as well for the 20% plus fans that are English or more. He seemed nervous which is normal and good, but couldn’t express himself which I’m sure didn’t help his unveiling (re-veiling or whatever). So perhaps MT needs to settle down and take stock of how little support he has in fandom and that actions speak louder than words, let Bergevin speak until W’s start being posted.
    It’s already common knowledge that free agents won’t be coming to the Habs to be coached by MT, so we’re pretty much left with our draft and farm club which was gutted because of the injuries (which he mentioned, but isn’t an excuse, it just points out the lack of depth that the Habs have). It’ll be three years to the day when he will leave and be replaced by a people person, team building, support of player type. Hopefully, that is what Bergevin was looking at since I haven’t heard him say the goal is to win the cup, rather get into the playoffs, which is a waste of time at least for the fans. Sorry for the rant, just can’t seem to shake this apparently very bad move by a once promising new GM and his team, sigh…

    Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

    • Max_a_million says:

      He was conspicuous in leaving Subban out of his top assets list in both English and French. This is not going to be good on the Subban front, I am really concerned.

      • I got the sense that he was keen on Subban, just that his Thoroughbred remark may put too much pressure on PK to be a leader as opposed to the free-wheeling two way defense that McDonough is. Insert tears here!

        Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

  45. Natrous says:

    I think if we’re honest with ourselves as fans of the Canadiens, we would realize that this is sort of a lame duck coaching scenario, in the sense that it will take our new GM a few years to mold this team into any sort of contender. The future looks good in terms of past draft picks coming up through the system (plus this year’s pick), so in my mind the team will begin to take flight in 2-3 years at the earliest.

    Does this mean that Therrien will be here by that point? No one knows just yet, but it can’t be a situation that would make many coaches salivate at the thought of working in an already hockey-insane market under such terms. My opinion is that Therrien was brought in to lay the basis of disciplined, Marc Bergevin-directed hockey, and will be replaced by a coach with tenure and experience once he becomes available in due time.

    I’m not a Therrien fan personally, but as a stop-gap until someone better is made available, I suppose he’ll have to do – afterall, he speaks perfect hockey x’s and o’s Cup-winning coaching French.

    • mrhabby says:

      this is a stop gap measure until a better coach comes along in 2-3 years and the team is then ready to be taken to the next level. if we get into the playoffs with him its a bonus as far as iam concerned.

    • Not perfect French… and certainly not perfect English. He had plenty of trouble expressing himself and surprisingly after working in the US for so many years, couldn’t even pronounce words properly like saying how “Excite” he was twice. Hey, I give the guy a break since he was clearly nervous and emotional, which is a good sign, but I laugh when I hear the AC talking heads speaking “French”. Let’s be honest here folks, it’s a Quebecois thing and that’s fine too, since anyone from France would double over listening to “Les Boys” talk about their “chars” tsit?

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    • boing007 says:

      Unless he doesn’t know that is exactly what he is why would Therrien agree to be an interim coach?

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • Natrous says:

        I would surmise that ‘interim’ tags don’t last more than one year. That said, Therrien has been unemployed as a coach for three seasons, which must have felt like an eternity – why would he turn down an opportunity to get back into the league??

        • He’d jump at it for sure. he was talking about his mother being told before anyone else. If that isn’t a tear jerker moment, I don’t know what is!

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  46. jmsheehy19 says:

    After sleeping on it, my problem with Therrien is the same as my problem with Martin; they aren’t bad coaches, I just don’t think they’re good enough for us to win the cup with.

    I’m gonna hold back judgment until we see some results, but I would have rather we went with a young guy and stuck with him through some likely growing pains to finally have some stability, Instead of a guy that apparently loses the room after 2 or 3 years.

    And his first public statement calling the whole team lazy (when I would say very few consider that the problem) is not an optimistic shot in the arm.

    • joeybarrie says:

      I just dont buy the fact that the Coaching change in Pittsburgh is the reason they won the Cup. Obviously he made an error there. But he did pretty well the season before.
      I dont buy that a coach is either simply good enough or bad enough to win the Cup.
      I think it is a function of a few different things. Staff and players have a lot to do with it. ignoring talent on the ice for the sake of argument.
      Pittsburgh had a great team this year and folded in the playoffs worse than any team i can remember in a long time. So Bylsma isnt that great now is he??? Based on that particular logic.
      I say lets see what he does.

      • jmsheehy19 says:

        The Bylsma argument doesn’t hold because I’m not saying Therrien isn’t good enough win to a Cup EVERY year. I’m saying with our squad, I don’t think we can win with him in the next 3 years or so, which seems to be his shelf life for a specific group of players.

        But like you say and I wrote, I’m willing to see how he does.

    • JSelby says:

      My doubts about Therrien have to do with temperament. I think coaches should be cool and in control of themselves. Over-emotional coaches (I class these as motivators rather than tacticians) can produce great runs of results, but inevitably players get tired of the emotional manipulation and the coach loses the respect and confidence of the locker room.
      Most players are very young men brought up in the peculiarly privileged world of star athletes. Coaches should, by dint of being older and more experienced and in a position of authority, be the ones to inject badly-needed calm professionalism into a team. Coaches need to get their egos out of the equation – it is about the players and creating a winning team, not about the coach. An over-blown sense of self-importance has been the downfall of many coaches, including past incarnations of Therrien himself.
      If Therrien has learned from his past mistakes, he may be a great addition to the Habs. However, if he has not, I predict a short and ultimately disappointing return.

  47. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Okay, I’m over my initial disappointment. Teamwork is important and maybe Bergevin, Therrien and company all reading off of the same page will be a winning formula this time around. Hey, at least, Therrien no longers look like a poorly dressed, hitman wannabe with really bad hair. That’s an improvement, isn’t it?

    Go Habs!

    • Still combs his hair with a pork chop!

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    • boing007 says:

      Why bother with another two year coach? We’ve had six in the last ten years. How about some longterm stability to allow the coach and the team time to bond?

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  48. Ton says:

    My views on the hiring; coaches are hired to be fired……seldom are there long term coaches in place unless your infrastructure allows for it ex. buff & nash. No way is it going to happen in montreal. The team’s work ethic, discipline (lack of) needs to be corrected. I could see this coach correct those things within his three year contract. There isn’t going to be one personality/one skill level that fits all. Bowman stated in his book that he had to change is coaching style after he got fired from buffalo. Players of today are different therefore a coach that is brought in to set guide lines on style of play, work ethic, discipline is going to be a 2 to 3 year term at most. This is the way we got to look at this for the moment. Gretzy mentioned the other day that Terry Murray did great work in LA before Sutter took over……..Tallon did great work with chi before bowman took over………I think he learned something and will keep kept on close watch for players need to be retained and Montreal needs to be an attractive option for players. I think he made the Orval Tessier mistake Pittsburg, no heart, no this and that and went too far and could have been Sacrifised. If you note Martin was very smart in interviews he never threw his players under the bus, he dealt with them in a certain way even when they were no longer wanted. Therefore lets hope we see a reformed tough/fair coach, I liked his style of play and certainly we won’t see Montreal getting push around by the bruins anymore! He has shown he could win……..but I do see a new coach coming to Montreal in 2 to 3 years and he could very well be of the opposite character.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      I am personally in favour of capitals to begin sentences.

      • Ton says:

        I could go back and correct if you like…….you are surely one very busy person if your playing the role of teacher on this site??!!

        • Old Bald Bird says:

          It doesn’t take much effort to make your posts more readable. That’s why you post, right? For people to read them?

          Call me old, but it helps me to track what I’m reading better. So sorry to offend.

          • Ton says:

            Ok done………..I have shown that I could go back and correct mistakes or poor grammar……..With this said I can be critical in saying that the message was easy understandable (even without capitalization) yet you failed to comment on the message> but was very quick to attack grammar. Have fun being the grammar police on this site………you will be busy and must have plenty of time to play the role

          • Old Bald Bird says:

            Why are you so flippin touchy about this? Perhaps I didn’t comment on content because I was distracted by sentences that appeared to run on because of the lack of capitals.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Ton, not to pile on here, but presentation matters. Content is key, but it has to be readable for it to matter. If I have to stop and interpret what someone wrote, try to guess what they’re trying to say, then the post isn’t expressing their view properly.

        A clumsy analogy I use is of the chef who puts out great food, but on filmy plates and on a greasy table with stained napkins. The presentation detracts from the main course, and makes you question the chef’s professionalism.

        I’m not saying your post was that bad, didn’t see the original one anyway, but I support what ODB, er, OBB is telling you.

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    • boing007 says:

      When the quality of team play is dysfunctional, what’s the point of sending a player up in the stands to learn from his mistakes?

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  49. habstrinifan says:

    Jacques Martin once did a whole lot of research and saw that Cole was useless on the power play.

    Michel Therrien did a whole lot of research and saw that the entire team played without commitment and discipline and work ethic.

    Fortunately for Cole there was Jessica to speak for Cole.

    Who would stand and speak for this team?

    • ed lopaz says:

      Josh Gorges speaks for this team

      • nunacanadien says:

        The Toronto based owners want the habs to suck. It’s true. If you read between the lines, the habs are being basically bullied into a pansy, lazy team….and that is the way Molson and his Toronto friends will have it. Live with it. When Molson sells the habs to someone who actually believes in Montreal, then maybe one day Montreal will again shine as a hockey town. The damage has already been done. It would take a miracle to turn this team around.

  50. Gumper Knows Best says:

    This is a politically correct, no threat 2-3 year gig to weed out the whiners, pretenders, cheaters, and complainers. Much safer and less distractions than IED Roy or Lawsuit Crawford.

    Now it’s up to the supposed management Dream Team to show us what they can do with all their written up knowledge and contacts. There is no salary cap in building a solid org and if they to park players in Europe or Hamilton that don’t fit, surely GMol will give them the go ahead. Get it done boys.

    And please for god’s sake, just get RFAs Price Subban Eller Emelin and White done. We don’t need these players missing training camp and starting out on the wrong foot.

  51. HabinBurlington says:

    Euro starts this weekend, will be a nice distraction from the offseason hockey world.

    Go Germany Go!

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      It might help pass the time until the draft and it might help hockey fans brush up on detecting a dive on the ice ;-)

      • HabinBurlington says:

        It is a shame that the game has been so butchered by the fake injuries and diving.

        • Hobie Hansen says:

          It’s just a different game where that sort of thing is held in high regard if you draw a penalty or whatever. It just so happens that over here it is regarded as being soft or a cheater. I do happen to think we’ve got it right but millions more watch football (soccer) than hockey so who says we’re right?

        • commandant says:

          No one wants to stop it though.

          The only way to make a difference is post game suspensions for guys caught diving on tape.

          Until you do that, they will dive, cause the game is too fast for the refs to see whats fake and what isn’t, and it helps you win.

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        • Cal says:

          Watch the NHL playoffs and watch soccer. Both games are being destroyed by too much defence and poor officiating.
          When the only way (pretty much) to score in soccer is off a free kick set play (corners included) or a penalty shot at a net that’s gargantuan, there is something wrong with the game.
          Unfortunately, the same thing is happening to hockey. Too many block shots with collapsed defence, turning many goals into pinball-like carems. Like soccer, the officiating is attrocious.

          • Thomas Le Fan says:

            Couldn’t agree more. Six goalies makes for a lousy game. I’m not sure of the best way to do it but the league needs to eliminate or drastically cut down on most shot blocking my non-goaltenders.

          • boing007 says:

            Pinball Hockey. Coming soon to an arcade near you.

            Richard R
            Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  52. frontenac1 says:

    Morning everyone! Its a new day and sunny for a change.After the long wait we now have a Coach that was not everyones first choice(myself included) but that’s life.Logic and fairness would dictate to give Mike a chance and I will. Some interesting observation from last night on AC ; Mike said the first player to call to congratulate him was Sidney Crosby.Hmmmm…..One year left on his contract,a huge Hab fan growing up,loved playing for Mike. Just sayin”…… Oh yeah, Jacques Martin looked old and slightly spaced out. Hola!!

    • Cardiac says:

      Talk about your awkward moments… JM sitting a few feet away probably wondering to himself what Therrien will do different.

      Regardless on who wound up being coach, they will have their work cut out for them. I as well did not have him as my first choice, but what can you do? Bergevin has brought in some qualified people thus far and if Therrien is his guy, then let’s give it some time and see what happens.

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      - Jerry Maguire

    • jon514 says:

      I think they must have had a good relationship, Sid and Mike. 102 points as a rookie. 120 points as a sophomore. I know most of that is just Sid being Sid, but Mike must’ve believed in him to give him the time and space to do all that.

    • BeeGee says:

      Crosby’s agent Pat Brisson is a good friend of MB’s too… one can dream.

      • Mustang says:

        Everyone here is always talking about trades so why don’t we change Gomez for Sid, straight up? Not good enough? We’ll throw in Kaberle. How could Pittsburgh refuse? (add a smiley face)

    • boing007 says:

      On RDS Michel Therrien said that Crosby called him on Sunday to congratulate him.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  53. jon514 says:

    Are we still talking about this? In the end, the players have to will themselves to win. I believe that any coach can take them there.

    The only thing most people are worried about is how he’s going to handle our young stars. I for one think he will treat PK, Price and Patches with kid gloves. He IS good at bringing along young guys. If he’s still around in 2 years, he WON’T sit Beaulieu, Tinordi, Ellis, Holland, Gallagher on the bench, but he will play the… a LOT.

    He is not Martin.

    • JoeC says:

      All the hatred toward this guy when we had the Count destroy our young players for what 2 years? I think people need to give him a chance .

      • boonie says:

        Many around here hated the JM hire from the time it was announced. They were right. Many of those same folks dislike this hire. Large groups of passionate fans are not usually wrong.

        • jon514 says:

          You know what. In this case, they are judging him based on what he did 12 years ago. A guy can’t improve in 12 years?

          • boonie says:

            If he is smarter than the last go-round, he sure didn’t sure it by calling out the entire team for a lack of work ethic. If he learned anything watching the team from RDS perch last season, he should have known that there were myriad problems with this team, and effort wasn’t in the top 5 on 90% of our game days/nights.

            What do you think he learned?

          • jon514 says:

            That’s not true. I listened to the whole press conference and he did not say that. He said everyone will have to work really hard. He also said that when he called out the defense in Pittsburgh, it was a decision made with the blessing of management, and that he DOESN’T expect that to happen here, cause he’s already got good leadership on this team (meaning Gio and Gorges).

            He did say he believes there is a problem with the players conditioning, but that might be better adressed by a coaching change (meaning strength an conditioning coach) and he’s right. How many injuries do we need to sustain before we realize there’s something wrong? Every week someone injures their groin. What are we a collection of the weakest groins in hockey?

        • Cardiac says:

          The big different between the two is we (the fans) knew what to expect with JM… an old, out of touch coach who would impose a defensive system on an undersized team.

          The message I got from the presser yesterday is Therrien is prepared to do what all decent coaches do, adapt to the players they are given, find ways to win through hard work and playing to the advantages of your players.

          “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
          - Jerry Maguire

          • jon514 says:

            Agreed. He’s ready to do the job. I like that they said on team990 yesterday. If NJ loses to LA this week, does that make Peter Deboer a bad coach? Therrien was fired because after taking the pens to the cup final, he could not motivate his team the next year the same way. It’s normal, teams get there and they can’t believe they let it slip away and then changes need to be made. Losing to Detroit in game 6 of the cup final does not make Therrien a bad coach… It’s Detroit!

  54. aj says:

    Just to let everybody here know, there’s a head’s up:

    After the draft, July 1st trades, training camp and preparations for the next season, the only topic that may hamper all 30 teams is the CBA talks. I’m sure the NHL and the NHLPA don’t want to see another season slip off by another lockout. That’s boring to everyone!

  55. adamkennelly says:

    Shocked and disappointed. Can’t believe we ended up with a coach that makes me wish we hired Hartley (or Crawford)…no second kicks at the can these days, too many other potential choices..I get the french thing but seriously – its 2012….enough already.

  56. habstrinifan says:

    Was the dominant impression of your Montreal Canadiens last season that they played without ‘commitment’ and most lacked ‘discipline’. Honestly?

    Monitor the twitter world for players’ reaction and listen to the short interview Therrien gave to TSN990 last afternoon. And tell me if you are heartened. And if you would be if you were in the dressing room today.

    Maybe it’s just me. But I am upset… very upset.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Gionta’s happy. I’m happy.
      Yes, I know he could be just saying that. I’m reaching for something good here.
      Who would have been a better choice besides Roy, Hartley or Crawford, assuming they were better choices?

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  57. Strummer says:

    From Damien Cox of the Toronto Star/SportsNet

    “But his hiring didn’t thrill the Habs blogosphere or get a free pass on social media, and it contradicts to some degree the sense of a brand-new direction the Canadiens had established by hiring Bergevin”

    No kidding Cox!

    “But the hockey world is full of coaches who didn’t get a fair shot, and they don’t get another one, at least not with the same team.

    Therrien does because he’s bilingual, he’s connected to the Bergevin-Luc Robitaille-Pat Brisson-Mario Lemieux circle of trust

    *and because there are many in Pittsburgh who would argue it was the structures and discipline that Therrien put in place that ultimately paved the way for the Pens to win the Cup the following season with Dan Bylsma behind the bench.”

    Interesting point by Cox. However if he’s that well-connected to Brisson (and by extension Sid Crosby) and Lemiuex why did he get bounced in Pittsburgh?

    Edit- here’s the link to the full article

    http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/nhl/article/1206563–cox-michel-therrien-takes-long-way-back-to-montreal

  58. ed lopaz says:

    ’72′s comment below about the Habs work ethic is right on the mark.

    If Therrien thinks this team’s main problem was its work ethic, he is sadly mistaken, and furthermore, that is a very provocative statement against the players.

    The ONE and maybe ONLY thing Cunneyworth did right was establish clear boundaries of work ethic and how it relates to team play.

    And, when a team succeeds so consistently on the penalty kill, well
    that is a clear indication that the team has workers on it, who are ready to pay the price.

    here we go ladies and gents…

    it starts on day 1.

    I already disagree with Therrien’s conclusions and his tactics.

    Why couldn’t he just say what everyone knew: we need to be better on the power play, we need to clear the crease area especially in the 3rd period, we need to focus on the “details” for 60 minutes.

    • 123456 says:

      so you were satisified by the efforts and hustle of gomez, bourque, kaberle, and even cammy and AK46 (yes now gone but). there are huge issues of players not giving it their all.

      watch the NJ and LA game tonight – you will see hustle

      • ed lopaz says:

        you mention Gomez – who is likely gone; cammy and ak46 who are gone;

        so the entire premise of Therrien’s comment is based around Bourque and Kaberle who are not going to be significant players going forward

        and then you take the time to write a post implying that Therrien is right?

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        That’s the point isn’t it? Two lazy players were shipped out. There were a couple left (Bourque especially) but that still means 90% of the players were committed.

        Therrien is still a dolt.


        Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      It didn’t look to me that anyone was trying in the 3rd period, starting from game 1 to game 82.
      Or they were, and just could not get results out of themselves…?

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  59. JoeC says:

    MT had 1 advantage over every single applicat did not have, and that is he got to watch every single game the team played, and being very criticle of the team in every aspect. He knows this team inside and out, and ‘HOPEFULLY” he can coach this team to its strengths, which are few and far between.

    He also hates Gomez, so thats a plus on him being hired!

    • boonie says:

      And, to Ed’s point (right above), TM’s first specific complaint was a lack of effort. Sorry, if that’s his take then he may have watched every game, but he saw little and understood less.

      He has the benefit of a new GM and could have said (in addition to Ed’s offerings), “I love our top end talent, but need to upgrade the rest of the roster”.

      The only person that throws under the bus is the inept and thanksfully departed Pierre Gauthier.

      • JoeC says:

        I dont think he meant the whole team though, i think he meant parts of it, he did say our time line rivals any team in the league. Honestly, its players like Gomez and the departed AK that i think he was pointing out, or Kab’s or the number of terrible players we had last year.

        You cant tell me past the first like there was much of a work etheic minus maybe Plecks, who got overworked like always

        • boonie says:

          Rather than debate the scope of his work ethic statement, let’s consider the impact of the statement in its broad totality on the pysche of the players who heard it. Was there a need for an already fiery guy to open with a statement like that? NO.

          One of the best things JM did (there were few, so it’s like shooting fish in a barrel to find them), was to hire Muller as an assistant to provide a complementary skill set. JM could remain aloof and KM could relate to the players.

          It’s an important management skill to identify your weaknesses and build an organization to plug gaps.

          12 years after his original stint in Montreal, Therrien still hasn’t learned that.

          • Habsrule1 says:

            These guys are pros. Gimme a break. All the players should be hearing is that it’s blatantly obvious this coach wants to improve the team and win.
            I doubt they’re all whining like some people on here are.
            And this is from someone who does not particularly like the hire, but is also not a drama queen.

            Go Habs Go!!

            “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

        • habstrinifan says:

          JoeC… please stop and consider the season ‘our boys’ went through. Recall the games where they gave what they had but were just plaind beaten down either by size or because of the restrict of their system on their spirirt. Then JoeC relive some of your own experiences in sports.. and then repost if you find any merit in your brand new coach emphatically saying that you and your teammates lacked commitment.

  60. Habsrule1 says:

    First, I am not a fan of this hire. I wanted Roy, Hartley or Crawford before Therrien.
    That said, I’m curious who everyone thinks would have been such a better candidate had the Hab not decided they needed a French-speaking coach…? Were we to ignore the French thing in order to hire Kevin Stevens? Adam Oates? What am I missing here?

    Go Habs Go!!

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  61. RGM says:

    So I woke up this morning and I am now beyond the five stages of grief with regards to the Therrien hiring. I accept it. He is the coach of the Montreal Canadiens and as such when the season begins I will support him in his quest to coach the team to a Stanley Cup. I may not be thrilled, and I won’t go shouting from the rooftops in endorsement, but he is our guy now and therefore I will stand behind him.

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  62. Ian Cobb says:

    The end of the season is tonight! Who ever built the Kings, personnel wise, is the person that Molson should have hired.!

    I don’t care if we paid 10 million for him!!

    • aj says:

      Honestly, I can’t wait for this circus to be over! This NHL season gave us a lot of intriguing stories. From firing coaches to roster moves last trade deadline and to top it all of, Our Habs become the centre of attraction by making such crap moves, I can’t wait to get this season done.

      Congrats to the L.A. Kings if the win the Stanley Cup tonight.

    • stevieray says:

      Things do appear that way …although tonite will be desperation hockey by the Devils …the question is ” How will they respond ”
      The Kings have built quite a team … Sutter has them going and they have peaked at the right time …and Quick is something else !
      The Kings are big ..which is now a requirement for post season success..I hope Bergevin is taking notes…

  63. Habsrule1 says:

    HIO should charge extra for advertising on days like yesterday.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  64. FanCritic says:

    It doesn’t matter who coaches. This team is gonna be changing players for years to come before it’s even close to winning a cup. what do we have for players we can build on? Price, Subban, Maybe Emelin and Pacioretty you tell me what we have after that. players that’s playing out their last years and players very few other teams would want so lets get use to the fact we have Therrien as our coach. we know he’s not the best choice but we have to have someone for our losing years which will put us in a better position each year for drafting till we have a stanley cup winner. every other team is doing it and if we don’t follow we’ll never win another cup. we’ll be a playoff team for ever with nothing to show it won’t hurt the Molson’s. make it through a couple of playoff rounds big money and isn’t that what hockey is all about a Business to make money not about winning a cup anymore main purpose is to make the playoffs that’s where the extra money comes in not hard to figure out and if your good enough to go all the way to the cup that’s where you hit the jackpot and all the players are happy to get a stanley cup ring something they all dream about once that happens they’re not as eager anymore the body is never the same ask any player that’s gone to the big dance….

  65. blu_blanc_rouge says:

    Has a decision been made on who’s coaching Hamilton next season? If not, I hope that they pick an up and coming guy from Jr hockey and groom him so he can be ready in 2-3 years when MT time is up.

    • commandant says:

      Nothing yet, but I think Hamilton should be given to Cunneyworth and Ladoucer.

      With Beaulieu, Tinordi, Ellis, Pateryn, Holland, Gallagher, Bournival all going to Hamilton next year the coach of the bulldogs is a critical role.

      Cunneyworth and Ladoucer have proven the ability to develop young players in the AHL, with over a decade of success there.

      I get that he’ll never coach in montreal and we want to develop a coach, but I think its more important to have an experienced and successful AHL coach there this season given the huge influx of rookie talent and the roles we want them to play on the big club one day.

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      • boonie says:

        I think it’s time to return to grooming french-speaking coaches in Hamilton. There always qualified candidates at sub-AHL levels ready to take the next step.

        If the team insists (rightly or wrongly) that our front office personnel must bilingual, then we have ensure a steady pipeline of non-retreads.

        Boucher was an excellent example. We identified him, game him a chance and he excelled – both at developing players and winning. Unfortunately for us, he was ready before we had an open chair (I think we should have made one, but that’s water under the bridge now). He had multiple offers (unlike Therrien and likely like Hartley) and chose a good situation.

  66. 24 Cups says:

    “The one thing that appears to have jumped out to me from the Canadiens’ 2011-12 season was an unwillingness to work.

    I want to give this team a work ethic, a level of discipline that will be exemplary,” Therrien said in his opening statement at Tuesday’s press conference. “I want fans to be proud to come to the Bell Centre and cheer on a team that works hard.” (Coach Therrien)

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      No one can disagree on the importance of hard work, but as an opening salvo it is somewhat unwise to call your team lazy.

      Besides, I’m not sure the players didnt work, with a few exceptions. We werent lazy. Undersized and undermanned. We had four rookie defenseman much of the year and an AHL bottom six.


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • habstrinifan says:

        Totally agree with you. And he repeated the ‘calling out’ of the team as lacking commitment and discipline later on Melnick on TSN990. It was after that interview that I just about gave up and sunk into a serious state of depression.

      • boonie says:

        The players worked. He called them ALL out publicly in his opening remarks. An excellent way to alienate the team and possible free agents on his first day.

    • Clay says:

      That’s exactly what I want to hear.

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  67. JohnBellyful says:

    Milt Dunno here, hockey pucks, with another one-minute face wash, this week directed at Montreal Canadien fans. I’ve got one word for you bunch of losers: screwyou!
    That’s the way I feel after all the whining, groaning, bitching, and grousing I heard yesterday after Michel Therrien was announced as the team’s new coach. You’d made it sound as if you had been run into a stanchion. Well, that woulda been too good for you crybabies!
    Give the man a break! Sure his first time around was only comme ci comme ça comme so-so, but he’s changed over time. Like we all do. Believe it or not, I started out a loudmouth smart ass in a turtleneck who thought he knew it all. Today I wear a tie.
    But all you whiners want to do is keep draggin’ up that incident in Pittsburgh when he “threw the players under the bus.” Well, you moaners are no different. You’re throwin’ Therrien under the band wagon before he’s even had a chance to screw up.
    Doesn’t make sense. Bergevin got to enjoy a honeymoon. His man doesn’t even get a wedding toast.
    The problem is, Therrien isn’t the guy a lot of people were hoping would be named coach.
    The Saint he Ain’t.
    As good as Hartley? Hardly.
    Carbo? Neau.
    Crawford? What about Crawford? Sure, he won a Cup, yeah, he’s been Coach of the Year, and he’s got a great smile, but that hair?! C’mon, is that the hair of a Canadiens’ coach? As Harry Neale would say, it looks like he combs it with a grenade.
    Now, Therrien, he’s got the look of a common man, and that’s what Montreal needs right now. Someone who can remind these millionaires they have to WORK for a living, not just put on a uniform and look good.
    Okay, so he’s a retread but there’s nothing wrong with that. What’s a retread but something made new again. Sounds like the right sort of plan for the Canadiens these days.
    Who knows, if all goes well, if the stars align, maybe by the time Therrien’s done, with a Cup or two to his credit, there will be a few more Canadien numbers to retire.
    Yeah, I know, it’s a stretch. But you’re still a bunch of sob suckers!
    There’s the buzzer. I’m outta here.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Sorry John Bellyful. This one time I dont feel better after reading your post. I hope to hell you are right re the ‘all goes well’ scenario…even if only half right.

      John, I think, someone much much more gifted may have said it best re what I, along with many others, hoped that the hiring of Bergevin meant. I quote:

      ” There is a tide in the affairs of men.
      Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;
      Omitted, all the voyage of their life
      Is bound in shallows and in miseries.”

      This was the tide John, we may have picked the wrong ship captain.

    • HardHabits says:

      Thanks for my morning chuckle JB. Couldn’t agree more. Well. Not without saying it myself.

    • JUST ME says:

      I couldn`t agree more with you !
      Yesterday i wrote a comment in the same sense that was sent to the twilight zone probably because of a few spicy words is used.

      I just do not understand all the negative comments written about Therrien . He may just be mister right now and not mister right but people need to understand he is the good man for the situation.

      Although he has a free pass cause the habs can barely have worst results than last season`s , there is a lot of work to be done before we can be considered as a contender and we need that kind of man to do the job.His job at RDS lead him to analyze in details the performances of a team in a horrible year and he knows what are the problems and the reality as fans sees it.

      Furthermore, how many times have we read here about the importance of doing a real clean up up there ? Now that it is done people find a way to complain ?

      Above everything else i find it rude to bring back the past of Therrien as an argument against him being hired. Most of us one day got a second chance to prove that we had learned and grown into a better and wiser person. I do not understand why he could not deserve the same chance.

      • habstrinifan says:

        The sad thing is that HE, Therrien himself, most glaringly brought back his past and reinforced the the doubt that his future will be more of the same. Listen to his interviews man! If someone were assigned to do a parody of the ‘old’ Therrien’s first ‘speech’ to his new team it would be replete withsimilar cliched, self-serving comments of commitment and work ethics found in his interviews.

        Not one word of nurturing and encouraging the the promise of a team fulfilling its potential of skill and talent. Not one word!!!!!!!!!!!

  68. 24 Cups says:

    “Bergevin said he spoke at length with Pens co-owner Mario Lemieux – a childhood friend – to vet Therrien’s suitability.”

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/therrien-gets-another-bite-of-the-apple/article4234066/

  69. JohnBellyful says:

    I confess, I jumped the gun yesterday suggesting Therrien wasn’t the right fit for the Canadiens. What was I thinking? I should have waited to hear what PJ Stock has to say on the subject.
    Right now I feel so rudderless.

  70. 24 Cups says:

    Therrien a stopgap solution for the Habs?

    It probably just as easily could have been Crawford in the same role if it wasn’t for the language and court case factors.

    http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/47545-Michel-Therrien-a-stopgap-solution-for-Canadiens.html

  71. habs-hampton says:

    From TSN:

    “Why were there so many injuries? The fact that we blew leads in the third period. Those are red flags,” he said. “That tells me it wasn’t a normal situation.
    “I can’t make judgements from the outside, but it is something I’ll keep an eye on.”

    That’s kind of funny, considering he’s made his living on RDS “making judgments from the outside”.


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