Theodore among former Habs available in free-agent pool

The date for free-agent signings this year has been pushed back to July 5 from the normal July 1 because of the new collective bargaining agreement and the lockout-shortened season.

Teams will be permitted to speak with players and their agents starting July 1, but no contracts can be signed until July 5.

While there are some big names available this summer, including Jarome Iginla, Jaromir Jagr and Teemu Selanne, most of them are past their prime. There are also a number of former Canadiens available, including José Theodore, Mike Ribeiro and Guillaume Latendresse.

Philadelphia Flyers GM Paul Holmgren announced on Thursday that the team will use a compliance buyout on Danny Briere, who was due to earn $5 million over the final two years of an eight-year, $52-million contract. The contract had a $6.5-million salary-cap hit for every season.

The buyout won’t become official until 48 hours after the Stanley Cup is awarded and the 35-year-old Briere will become a free agent.

 In other news, Hockey Canada made it official during a Thursday morning press conference at the Bell Centre that Montreal and Toronto will co-host the 2015 and 2017 IIHF World Junior Championships.

Both cities will host a preliminary round group at each event, with Toronto hosting the medal round in 2015 and Montreal hosting the medal round in 2017. Canada’s national junior team will be based in Montreal for the round robin in 2015, and in Toronto in 2017.

“This is an exciting day for hockey fans in the provinces of Quebec and Ontario as well as throughout Canada,” Hockey Canada president and CEO Bob Nicholson said. “These two cities have a proud hockey tradition and have shown interest in this event for many years. We look forward to welcoming the hockey world in Montreal and Toronto.”

(Photo by Ed kaiser/ Postmedia News)

A look at 25 available free agents, by Pat Hickey

Habs GM Bergevin might not make big moves in free agency,

Blackhawks beat Bruins 6-5 in OT in Game 4,

Montreal and Toronto to co-host world junior tournaments,

Gretzky was 16-year-old star last time Montreal hosted world juniors, by Stu Cowan

Big bucks for old pucks in Gretzky auction,

Carrie Underwood’s temporary hockey home in Ottawa up for sale, by Stu Cowan


  1. frontenac1 says:

    Love TU-74. He lost his mojo when Malone went at him 2years ago,but got it back when he went at it with Chara this year. Played great after that. He can scrap when he has to and he will. That’s who he is amigos. Don’t worry about his face coming apart, he hurt himself on bad timing on a legal check. Love to see him and Volchenkov on our blueline. A Ruskie Wrecking Crew!

  2. frontenac1 says:

    @habfan in leaf jungle. Frenchies? Really? That’s not cool amigo.

  3. <----- ALMOST PERFECT says:

    No matter what MB does. We’ll have a good team but they won’t be a stanley cup team that’s a ways down the road.

    Keep improving each year and eventually we’ll get there. No need to panic it’s not happening for awhile …..

  4. krob1000 says:

    pk says brother has more potential than him….

  5. Luke says:

    Hmm… you guys still over here in the old thread?
    The new thread is spectacular.

    A fertile playground, so full of promise. New chances to rip on Price and DD and the rest…

  6. hab fan in leaf jungle says:

    Sign JT as the #1 goalie. He has won the Vezina and the Hart. He IS a better stopper at almost 37 years of age than Price will ever be. Who can forget the way he held the fort against the Bruins after the Zednik injury? He can be the Habs ‘Vokoun’. He’ll sign for cheap and pimps, hookers, bikers and dealers who can’t qualify for mainstream loans need to borrow money to finance their summer crime sprees.

  7. jedimyrmidon says:

    This draft seems to have quite a few big-bodied 1) potential power forwards available in the Top 60 that are 2) LWers. Perfect opportunity for the Habs to load up.

    If the Habs get 2 such NHLers out of the draft, it would go a long ways to helping the team.

  8. Kooch7800 says:

    Ian Schultz played for 3 different ECHL teams last year….wow.

    I don’t even think we will see him back with the bulldogs

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  9. Un Canadien errant says:

    I was wondering while watching the footage on CBC, and now Sportsnet says that there is flood water to Row 10 in the Calgary Saddledome.

    “There’s a little bit of embelleshing going on. You know, on our team, we don’t accept it. You kow, it’s something we don’t accept as players, and as teammates.”–Milan Lucic.

  10. Un Canadien errant says:

    Robert Rice and Arik Parnass of Habs blog “Eyes On The Prize” go back and forth choosing players in a mock draft of the 2013 NHL draft’s first round. As always, I’m drawn to that flame like the moth I am, and scrutinize their selections for auguries of the Canadiens’ likely haul in the early rounds.

    The eye popping detail for me is that in this version both Samuel Morin and Frédérik Gauthier are available when the Canadiens’ turn to choose comes up. Mr. Parnass selects the promising 6’6″ Rimouski defenceman for the Habs, leaving Frédérik Gauthier to be snapped up by the Dallas Stars four picks later.

    In recent interviews, Montréal General Manager Marc Bergevin and Director of Amateur Scouting Trevor Timmins both expressed some interest in trading up if the right opportunity presented itself. If this scenario played out, there would be such an opportunity.

    If the Canadiens value these players as they are generally ranked by scouting reports and NHL Central Scouting (Mr. Gauthier is ranked 8th among North American skaters, Mr. Morin 23rd), and due to the organizational need for more size in its prospect ranks, as well as the added appeal of adding native sons to the roster, then they should jump at the chance to snag them both at this late stage of the first round.

    Let’s eliminate the possibility that the Canadiens have a plan in place on draft day to move up if Frédérik Gauthier is still available at a certain point in the first round, say #19, and have a deal worked out with the Blue Jackets in that eventuality. Instead, let’s say they sat back and ‘let the draft come to them’. They would thus be faced with the choice of both players in question at #25. We can guess that they’d snap up Mr. Gauthier, he being the higher-ranked player generally and less likely to last much longer.

    Now Samuel Morin would be up for the next interested organization. While he’s not a ‘safe’ pick but rather a ‘project’, his combination of size, attitude and potential will probably make him too attractive for teams to pass him up much longer. As they say, all you need is for one team to like a player for him to be drafted; it’s not necessary that there be a general consensus.

    So the Canadiens would need to act fast. Waiting and hoping for him to fall nine more slots might be unrealistic, not to mention agonizing. Trading up would be the course of action here.

    Looking at a couple of draft pick value charts, we find that the cost of acquiring a late-first round pick is very reasonable, especially with the ammo the Canadiens have amassed over the last couple of years. One of our seconds and one of the thirds should be more than sufficient to barter with, all that would remain would be to find a team eager to trade down, and how much they’d want back in compensation. As the old joke goes, we’ve established what kind of a lady she is, all that remains is the dickering.

    • krob1000 says:

      For those two The Canadiens could give up 5 of their 6 top 3 round picks and I would not be the least bit upset…if they coveted them that much. I like the need they addressed with Tinordi…and a similar approach would be ok by me. Get 2 really good players that address needs moving forward instead of project players. The organization has several of those.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        The only issue is that from what I read, Samuel Morin is a project himself. He’s no slam dunk. The tradeoff for his size is that there are many more talented smaller players available in that range. So you’re getting a bigger player but not necessarily the best player or most likely to make it. In today’s NHL though, where size trumps all, maybe he’ll make it strictly due to that size, he’ll be given every chance to succeed.

        The hopeful indicator is how much his game has improved even just this year, apparently, which to me would indicate that maybe his growth spurt is done, and now his skills and coordination are catching up.

        • krob1000 says:

          So was Tinordi…I was trying to say with the Tinordi reference that if the organization finds two guys who fit needs moving forward…and they believe in those guys (assuming they like those two)…I would prefer they target two guys like that instead of stocking more potential scoring wingers of a certain stature. So if trading up ensures that go ahead TT and MB. I like those guys (only know what I read) but think the team has drafted enough pure talent of late and needs to address the size up front in the system, a goaltender, and more big, tough dmen. The approach with Tinordi (which many of us questioned at the time as many thought he would have been available later…but will never know) is what I am endorsing. Gauthier and Morin IF and ONLY IF they are valued that high by TT and staff are worth it…but any two guys that fit a need like those two I would be OK with the team giving up picks to get. That Mantha guy is another,Rychel, etc,etc.

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            Yeah, I guess we just have a difference on what “project player” means. Usually, a project is a player who has loads of talent and potential, but will need lots of time and coaching to reach that potential, if he ever does. A safe pick however is a kid who is pretty much what you see is what you get. So according to the writeups I’ve read, Samuel Morin is a project, although the trend was encouraging as the season wore on.

        • hab fan in leaf jungle says:

          Size on Francophones means nothing. Just look at Latendresse. He is a big soft putz, can’t skate at the NHL level and has a BAD attitude and low IQ. Name 3 tough French players other than Bordeleau who is in the goon category. Stay away from Frenchies. Draft the big guys from the West or the US. There are enough French people on the team/organisation who are earning big bucks and doing nothing.

  11. Fake says:

    We can build a team whilst only using ex-habs that are UFA’s. Well, almost.

    Kovalev – Koivu – Ryder
    Latendresse – Ribeiro –
    Lapierre – Gomez – Armstrong?
    Begin – Chipchura –

    MA Bergeron – O’Byrne


  12. Timo says:

    Oh look… it’s raining. Thank goodness, I was beginning to think we’ll never see rain again.

    The good thing is that Internet is still available so it’s all good. Access to porn and HIO is all people need really.

  13. Psycho29 says:

    HNIC’s Eric Francis just tweeted:

    “BREAKING: Water is up to row 10 at Saddledome. Dressing rooms completely submerged. Jumbotron rm & all equipment destroyed. ”

    Hope Timo and everyone in Calgary stay safe!

  14. Ed says:

    to clarify the Habs’ position on why Kaberle needs to be bought out;

    the Habs have concluded,. and I agree, that Kaberle can no longer play 5 on 5 defence at the NHL level.

    this is the same conclusion that the Jim Rutherford drew before we traded Spacek for Kaberle. this is the Habs’ conclusion and the reason why he never got 1 shift once they determined he would be bought out, and this is my conclusion.

    An NHL team simply can not afford to pay 4.5 million to a player who they can not trust on the ice 5 on 5. If he was at 1 million like MA Bergeron, as a power play specialist, then he could stay in the NHL – and that is likely to happen once he gets bought out.

    Please do not compare Gorges contribution 5 on 5 or Desharnais’, who actually got more points 5 on 5 than Plekanec this season – a bad season compared to last. Moen makes less than 2 million and is easily traded for a similar type asset, so he will not be bought out.

    Kaberle should be bought out, and he will be bought out.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Yup. He won’t see the ice this year, and he’s the last of the “untradeables”.

    • krob1000 says:

      It is not about this year though…it is about moving forward as MB seems determined to be committed to so why use the buyout? IF a player can be had for that money then use it but if not then eat the 4.5 and save it and assess the longer contracts when approaching the window that matters. Apparently below ( I can’t access the link from here) is a link showing MB is waiting re Kaberle to see what is needed to be done.
      The only way Kaberle gets into the HAbs lineup is if Markov is injured OR both PK and Diaz. In either of those scenarios he would actually be able to play in Montreal and would be of value. His attitude is allegedly not a concern and he appeared committed to staying in shape last eyar despite knowing the situation…had Markov gone down he was ready.

      • Ozmodiar says:

        Beaulieu can step in for Markov. He’s just not needed. Sorry.

        • krob1000 says:

          You are trying to tell me a guy who may not even be in the NHL this year could qb a first unit pp? Even with a Norris winner in PK the pp stunk without having a passer like KAberle or Markov on it.
          I wonder how much more clear I need to be on this? Keberle ,even if he does not dress a gameall year is worth keeping IF the team is standing pat…it is not about is about using the teams last buyout option.
          If Kaberle were a trouble personality then it makes sense to buy him out. If a free agent comes a long worth spending big bucks on, sure…but if not…and MB just signs depth guys…keep the buyout (which means keep Kaberle) and use it when you are gearing for the real window…then assess Gorges, Moen, the logjam at center,etc….
          I don’t know how people keep inferring I am saying Kaberle should be kept because of his hockey…it ist he buyout optin that is the real value that Kaberle represents.

          • Ozmodiar says:

            Yup. If Markov goes down, Beaulieu can fill in. He made good strides towards the end of last year. He could handle PP duties. He was drafted 2 years ago. It wouldn’t be groundbreaking.

            There’s no more buyout candidates after Kaberle. The rest are tradeable.

            We’ve seen the last of Kabs.

        • punkster says:

          Crazy talk.

          Edit…never mind…the entire discussion is full of it.

          ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

          • krob1000 says:

            Please enlighten me with your sanity your awesomeness !
            We are all bored on here….if anyone has a better topic I am game!

      • Maritime Ron says:

        Sometimes it’s about real dollars also.
        The Kaberle salary being bought out saves Molson $1 Million. Instead of paying Kaberle $4.5M to sit in the press box, Molson will pay Kaberle $3M out over 2 years instead of 1.
        When you think about it, that’s a lot of watery draft beer and hot dogs you have to sell….

        • Ozmodiar says:


        • krob1000 says:

          Real dollars is more of an incentive to look at the other longer contracts then..Desharnais(not likely as it was his contract) and Gorges contract are worth 3-4 times Kaberle money in real dollars.

          Let’s look two years down road…stay at home guys Emelin and Tinordi, Subban, Beaulieu, Drewiskie was just signed (stay at home depth guy), Gorges, Diaz,? Markov?
          Throw Nygren into the mix. Deitz and Thrower in the system at the AHL level. What will the need be at that point?
          Both Tinordi and Emelin should be better shutdown guys than Gorges by then, both bigger, both tougher, both likely better offensively. The offensive dmen are looked after and so are the top 2 d shutdown roles…so then do you pay 3.9 for your 3rd pairing shutdown or does Drewiskie or someone fill in cheaper? or do you sign another tougher guy as the team has been lacking for years?

          That Gorges contract just does not look good moving forward…right now it looks fine…slight overpay if not fair….but down the road with the d corps and the direction the team appears headed, the guys in the system,etc…it sticks out like a sore thumb.
          Much could change though. Emelin could walk as a UFA, Tinordi could not pan out,etc….that is why I feel it best to wait and see…and not use the buyout now unless necessary.

    • The Juice says:

      I’d rather pay Kabs $4.25M for one year to do nothing than have Gorges for FIVE more years at $3.9M…


      “To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high!”

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Agreed. I don’t understand why anyone would even think this is up for debate. You don’t keep a worthless $4.5M player on your roster if you have an opportunity to cut ties and move on. Marc Bergevin acted decisively in the Scott Gomez case, he won’t waffle on this one. Not just so as to keep a buyout in his back pocket to putatively use on a $2M or $3M player who would be tradable anyway.

  15. Scotty90 says:

    What do you guys think of Ryan Reaves as a policeman for the Habs? I think he would look pretty good going toe to toe with just about anybody! makes about 700K in St-Louis! HockeyDB lists him as 6’2″…193lbs…. but in one of youtube fights, the commentator put him at 240lbs!!!… no nonsense figther and gives devastating hits.

    • Scotty90 says:

      Helloooooo! anybody home?

      • Fake says:

        Lol. Yes, he is one of MANY players that Bergevin is most likely looking at. There may not be any superstars available this year, but there sure is a boatload of gritty top 9 forwards. ie:
        Clowe, Bickell, Morrow, Stalberg the list goes on and on.

        • Savardian Spin-o-rama says:

          If Stalberg has any grit it’s because he came to the rink straight from the beach. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have been benched in favour of the tougher Brandon Bollig earlier in the series vs Boston.

          • Fake says:

            I didn’t mean to say that Stalberg has grit, bud, just one of the many top 9 forwards available. I obviously was too lazy to put a fucking disclaimer.

          • Kooch7800 says:

            I agree. He is exactly the type of player we dont’ need

            “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • frontenac1 says:

      Ryan Reaves is interesting. He is strong,quick throws and good balance. His win percentage has increased every year over 6 yrs. (54% avg vs 59% last year with the Blues) His throws and lands are the same but he protects much better now.
      He is one of those kids that is really learning the trade and at 26 has alot more left. Check out his fight with McGratton last year which he narrowly lost to decision. He is closer to 225lbs from what I can gather.

      • Scotty90 says:

        Actually in one of the fights, the commentator mentions 240lbs!!! Has apparently been taking boxing lessons and appears to be strong as a bull… see the take down of John Scott!

  16. HardHabits says:

    Ruff to coach Dallas Stars
    Vigneault to coach NY Rangers

  17. formerly known as the hc says:

    The number 1 factor that pushed the cap up over the last CBA was the rising strength of the Canadian dollar. If the Loonie stays strong, the cap will likely rise, or atleast stay the same. The only thing for sure is that Gionta and Markov contracts come to an end after this season. PK’s new contract is going to be FAT! It is right not to go crazy in free agency.

  18. HabsFan1111 says:

    Let’s say Tampa buys out Vinny LeCav, anyone interested for a reasonable price? Size, experience, leadership qualities, etc…

    • Fake says:

      Him turning down MTL should be considered.

    • The Juice says:

      No. Centre is the one position where the Habs are solid. Plekanec is a great #2, and either Chucky or Eller will step up this year to be #1.


      “To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high!”

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        You can never be too strong at centre. Adding Vincent Lecavalier won’t hinge on whether we already have enough centres, it’ll depend on the cost-benefit analysis. And whether he’d want to play for the Canadiens in the first place.

  19. Kooch7800 says:

    Habs addict’s Brian Willy’s thoughts on what MB should do:

    I really like his trade suggestion but I don’t think Van city would move Bieksa

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Fake says:

      LMFAO? “I BUILD THROUGH THE DRAFT.” This is an identical trade that got us Pacioretty and Gorges. Get the eff out of town.

      • Ozmodiar says:

        Yes, terrible trade proposal. He must be hanging out here too much. The Habs need to bolster their prospect pool, so I wouldn’t even trade the 1st for Bieksa. We’re better off with the much cheaper Diaz.

        Clowe is broken. Do not want, especially for that overpriced contract.

        The article seems to be some random guy posting ridiculous trade proposals that anyone here can come up with.

        • Kooch7800 says:

          I wouldn’t make his other moves but I would trade a 25th overall for Bieksa as he is the type of D man we just don’t have and truly need.

          With 2 picks so early in the second round being a major factor as well. if they just had the 1 in the first and 1 in the second I wouldn’t do it.

          There is a reason why his nickname is Beast

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • krob1000 says:

      What did he do with DD? He used the buyout on Kaberle and poof DD is gone?

    • HardHabits says:

      Bryan Wilde does this every summer. He read HIO, makes a few tweaks and then writes an article trying to pretend that he has his own ideas. A while back he was adamant about getting Konopka. Now it’s Bickell or Clowe. HIO comments section has been there and done that.

    • The Juice says:

      Wow what a dumb idea. Maybe Bieksa for Diaz and Moen, but certainly not if you throw in a #1 pick…


      “To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high!”

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I love Kevin Bieksa, but I don’t see this trade happening. Vancouver won’t let him go, he’s their most valuable defenceman, and we’d have to give up picks and prospects for a short-term solution. I don’t see Marc Bergevin finding the right trade for the team to make it happen.

      Vancouver wants what we do, younger, bigger players. We’re not a good fit for a trade.

  20. Fransaskois says:

    For all of you expecting to see Bergevin make a big splash during free agency this year…. I would expect nothing more than a couple of depth signings. Bergevin knows what’s up and where his team is at, good to see he and I are on the same page. Sorry if it’s already been posted.

    Arpon Basu ‏@ArponBasu #Habs Bergevin not too enthused about free agency. “History shows that free agency is not the best tool. It’s a good tool, but not the best”

    Arpon Basu ‏@ArponBasu When asked if he’s made a decision about #Habs impending free agents, Bergevin simply said, “Yes.”

    Arpon Basu ‏@ArponBasu “I’m really careful on that day. It could be a dangerous day.” – #Habs GM Marc Bergevin on free agency day.

    Arpon Basu ‏@ArponBasu “It’s not only this year, it has a ripple effect of a couple of years. You don’t get free agents to come on a one year deal.” – Bergevin

    • krob1000 says:

      So if this is the case…which it appears to be given it has been reported a few times (unless he is lowering expectations ….underpromise and overdeliver and all that,etc) what is the teams plan for this season? If it is to stay status quo …I can’t help but keep looking at the Kaberle buyout and thinking he should save it and examine things at the end of the year.

      What if Chris is right and the cap down not go up as we are assuming it will? what about the logjam at center (dd and Pleks), Gorges, Moen, perhaps even Price if he is oto deemed a 6.5 guy at that point?……too many questions ahead for when it really matters according to the indications…so why buy Kaberle out now?

      As devlis advocate to myself…they buy him out so the team can go after Clarkson, Bickell or Clowe type guy……so is MB targetting them or not? That is the question and I don’t know that I buy his public statement…he has put himself in a win win smartly. If he gets nothing via free agency or the cost is too high..he is rebuilding and played it wisely. If he lands one of those grittier forwards with some offense to boot…he can say…well a player like this is valuabe moving forward and addresses a need, they don’t come along very often,etc,etc
      MB=smart man

      • Fransaskois says:

        I am wishing, hoping and dreaming that Bergevin will stick to the rebuild. There are no high-end free agents that I would have any interest in signing, especially at the cap hit they would be expecting.

        During his year-end address, I’m quite sure MB touched on his hesitation to buy out Kaberle. There’s no point in buying out Kaberle if you aren’t signing anyone else, he’s got one year left on his contract. So it might be an indication that Molson and MB are considering acquiring another contract to buy out or that they’re considering using it on a player with a longer contract….Moen? Gorges? Bourque?. All of those players seem tradeable and not worth the buy out.

        • krob1000 says:

          I did not know he said that re Kaberle so you just made my day!!

          • Fransaskois says:


            I’m actually really enjoying watching it again. In the first 40sec he says – “The gameplan, the mindset stays the same, I’m standing pat.” Add that to his talks about his reservations about Free Agency…. looks like there will be little movement.

          • Ozmodiar says:

            MB will likely use the negotiation window to gauge the price tag of those players that he’s targeted.

            If the prices are reasonable, he’ll buy out Kabs and go shopping.

            If the prices are too high, they still might buy out Kabs to save money…since he won’t be seeing any ice time.

          • Chris says:

            Waiting to talk to free agents is certainly a possibility this year due to the lockout (normally buyouts must be completed first, but this year it pushes into the negotiation window due to the late finish of the season).

            But from a reputation point of view, not letting Kaberle get a head start on negotiation would be a big black eye if that is their ultimate decision. The Gomez thing was not received well by NHL players, so screwing over Kaberle as well would be two hits to the Habs’ reputation.

          • Ozmodiar says:

            He’d just make a few calls on the 1st day of the negotiating period, then buy him out. No big deal. It wouldn’t get much attention at this time of year.

        • The Juice says:

          Why is Bourque in this conversation?


          “To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high!”

          • krob1000 says:

            because we are looking at 2-4 years down the road…the Bourque from last year was great..but will he be on the decline by then? will he have concussion issues? just questions and trying to predict the future..which often doesn’t go well…so why rush it and buyout Kaberle for no reason? that is the point.

      • Chris says:

        Just a clarification: I’m not saying the cap is going down (I agree with most that it will probably go up), but that the degree to which it rises might not fit the assumption of a $70+ million cap for 2013-14.

        To be honest, I think they buyout Kaberle because keeping him around for another year and not playing him would be viewed very negatively around the league. Kaberle is not a jerk like, say, Sean Avery. He’s a good guy whose career has declined. That being said, he could easily be an everyday defenceman on the right team (particularly if paired with a stay-at-home defender to cover his defensive lapses).

        He is simply overpaid, not useless. There are tons of defencemen in the league who looked to be finished as 5 vs. 5 defenders in this league who have found success. Kaberle is smart enough to join that list.

        I don’t think Bergevin is going to be making a big splash in free agency because the prices are typically too high. This guy just played major hardball with a guy who had been their #1 defenceman and who just finished posting a Norris Trophy season.

        The more likely path is a draft day trade to try to clear out some of the surplus of similar players (Markov, Diaz, Weber, Bennett, Beaulieu as offensive defenders; Kristo, Gallagher, Collberg, Gionta, Bozon as one dimension scoring wingers) to try and secure players that fit needs (physical defencemen, power frowards).

        • krob1000 says:

          10-4. I knew you meant it would just increase more gradually. Agree mostly re Kaberle…I just can’t stand looking at what is being perceived as our window and seeing some of the contracts. I also agree re the similar player thing/needs….I thought some of the housecleaning would have been done last deadline.
          For the record I am not opposed to buying out Kaberle…I am opposed to buying out Kaberle for no real reason…I am not sure MB will let that perception affect him…he seems to have a plan in place and will not deviate.
          I am ok as long as it makes sense…and even then I have to be ok no matter the outcome. I just think taking his time is the best option.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      sorry brother I didn’t see you already posted this. I like his trade suggestion. If they could get Bieksa out of Van City I would give up a late first rounder with Diaz and Moen in a heart beat. Not sure Vancouver would like that though considering he logs big minutes for them

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Timo says:

        A first for Bieksa? Never had an impression he’s that good. Is he?

        • Kooch7800 says:

          He blocks shots, has some offensive upside and can put up over 40 points, hits like a mack truck and isn’t afraid to pound the crap out of people in front of the crease

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

        • The Juice says:

          Timo is correct.


          “To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high!”

        • vegas says:

          Bieksa is already a top 4, has 3 years left on his contract, and most importantly meets all our needs. Big, bruiser, right hande hand and can play. When will a 25th pick be ready to do that? Moen and Diaz would become cap dumps. Change Diaz for Gorges if you want and I still don’t think Vancouver does it.
          2 years down the line our D would be
          Emelin / Subban
          Beaulieu / Bieksa
          Tinordi / Patryn – Nygren – Ellis

  21. frontenac1 says:

    @timo. Keep safe amigo.All the best.

  22. frontenac1 says:

    @habfan17. Matt Carkner,the Pride of Winchester in Eastern Ont! Tough as nails, with a 58% career win average. He has beaten some of the toughest heaveyweights in the game,Gillies,Jablonski,Ivaanans,Peters,Boogard,Scott but he has trouble winning against Orr and Lucic for some strange reason.Saludos!

    • Habfan17 says:

      Thanks for the info, still, He is the type of guy we need, even if he is a retread! He would the majority of players from thinking of running Price or Subban


  23. Timo says:

    The only positive from this whole flood BS is that most of the offices are closed. But f#$% man, things look pretty bad for some communities in and outside of Calgary.

  24. SmartDog says:


    I call bullcrap on everyone who keeps talking about all the Cap space we’ll have in 2014-2015. With 13 guys signed, payroll is at 36 million. Add 7 million for PK – 43 million with 14 guys signed. So we need another 8-9 guys with the remaining 21-22 million? If Emelin and Diaz get new contracts they’re probably at around 3 mil each. So that’s 15-16 million for the other 6-7 guys. I don’t see us picking up any stars at 2 million each.

    Sorry kids, the future is not (cap) friendly.

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • savethepuck says:

      The 2014-15 CAP will be well over 70 mil. It definitely will not be around the 64 mil it is going to be this year. Fans flocked back after the lockout, revenues are rising.
      We have or will have lots of CAP room.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

      • Chris says:

        People have to be careful with that expectation.

        The player’s share of HRR decreased from 57% to 50%.

        The cap in 2011-12, the last year of the old deal was $64.3M. NHL revenues that year were $3.2-3.3 billion. Obviously there are a ton of costs in that number that are taken out before the HRR is determined.

        A decrease of player share of 7% means that the NHL revenues would have to grow at a far faster rate than it has in recent years to get the cap back up to $70 M in just two years. Remember, the cap for this season was originally supposed to be $60.0 M based on the new 50% number, but the existing contracts made the NHL concede that there would be a year to let things get back to normal.

        The history of the salary cap was:

        2005-06: $39.0 M
        2006-07: $44.0 M
        2007-08: $50.3 M
        2008-09: $56.7 M
        2009-10: $56.8 M
        2010-11: $59.4 M
        2011-12: $64.3 M (10-year deal with NBC/Versus signed)
        2012-13: $60.0 M (can spend to $70.2 M)
        2013-14: $64.3 M
        2014-15: ??? (New Canadian broadcast deals to be signed)

        I think the expectation that the NHL revenues are going to accelerate to the point that we could see another $6 M increase when the player share is dramatically lower is unrealistic. $3-4 M is probably a better estimate because of the markedly lower share that the players now get.

        The one monkey wrench in that prediction is the new Canadian TV deals, which are expected to be a lot more competitive that previous years, with Rogers, Bell and CBC all gearing up to land the lucrative package. That could give a one-time bump to the salary structure, as was seen in 2011-12 when the salary cap jumped more than it should have because of the influx of NBC money.

        Long-term deals put a damper on revenues growth, however, as they lock the price in on one of the biggest revenue streams that ties in directly to the players.

        • krob1000 says:

          I am not sure hockey rev growth is cyclical but if I were looking at that data I would expect the cap to have a rapid grwoth over the first couple of years and then taper off as to seems to early on in that data. I guesstimated 4-5 million which is pretty much where you are at as well. The owners get a couple early years in this deal to make big bucks off that tv deal you mention and then the players get their shares as the deals progress…seems fair. I have no idea how all that works but I think the pattern is fairly evident in your numbers you listed.

          • Chris says:

            I would be careful with that. The economy as a whole is the important indicator.

            The rapid growth of the cap from 2005-06 to 2008-09 corresponded to a very strong economy (salary caps are set in January of the previous year). The recession started in late 2007 in the U.S., but not until late 2008 in Canada where much of the NHL’s revenues comes from. The 2009-10 and 2010-11 salary cap saw moderate growth before jumping by $5 and $6 M again in 2011-12 and 2012-13, respectively, as the economic performance improved.

            Based on historical norms, the economy should be okay for a few more years, which would suggest decent growth for NHL revenues, but there are enough storm clouds out there (youth unemployment, the mess of the Southern European countries, potential housing bubbles, continued austerity measures (especially at the provincial and state levels) due to crushing debts, etc.) that it might be a bit early to presume a run of sunny days ahead for the salary cap.

          • krob1000 says:

            Re Below…I know we don’t have a clue about the factors involved…but every time there is a lockout it seems the owners clawback very low…often too low to make up for the latter years in the recently expired deal. Then early on they get what they want…then it goes up and the pattern appears to repeat. I don’t have the numbers but the fact the cap always goes down…then goes up to a point where they need to lockout…it indicates it is a game of cat and mouse and eventually will get back to where this issue arises again. Sure the economy could crap out and a bunch of other factors could affect things but in general it seems the cap rises realtively quickly following lockouts. Perhaps the buyout clause is a means of trying to keep that trend from happening…but we know owners will blow that opportunity and overpay at free agency…as they always do….they do it to themselves to some degree…another pattern that tends to repeat itself.

          • Chris says:

            Different case this time.

            In 2005-06, there was no prior salary cap so the original cap figure was a negotiated agreement.

            Same thing in 2012-13: the cap was set based on 50% of the HRR using the formula that will be used moving forwards. The $64.3 M cap was set based on projections of 2013-14 NHL revenues.

            Revenues could very well be sailing forwards, but we’ll have to see to what extent that is true. The $64.3 M was based on the numbers they had from the previous season, which yielded one of the largest jumps in recent years. The NHL growth would have to be significantly accelerating from what we saw in 2010-11 to 2011-12 to 2012-13 for us to see another $6+ M jump.

    • sirs81 says:

      It also depends on how many kids make the club… their cap hit might not be as big… save some space like that…

      • wjc says:

        Krob, you are interesting but hard to read.

        Hint ….don’t….apostrophy is beside enter, lower caps.
        don;t….that is a semi-cola

        Correct typo’s….tehy….they, PErhaps…perhaps, otu…no idea.
        apter….no idea, aobut…about, ivolved….involved.

        Everybody makes mistakes, but slow down and maybe your idea’s will flow better. Not saying I am perfect…..but some will take offense I am sure. Just saying…..try a little harder to be clear.

        The operative word is ‘try’.


        • krob1000 says:

          can’t type…and I try to correct but I do this from I have to hurry and often before I get a chance to correct it the phone rings, client comes in,etc,etc,

    • krob1000 says:

      yes and no…you also have to figure is history is any indicator the cap will be up about 4-5 million by then. Also at that point there is no way the team is running with 4 2nd line centers. However, if they want to be ultra competitive at that point…which I believe they do….a couple contracts stick out like sore thumbs at that point…Gorges, DD, Pleks, Moen, …this is why I have been saying since Gorges play slipped a bit ( I still believe it was a blip but even at his best not sure if he fits the teams needs a couple years from now with the prospects in the system and his contract is long).

      Hard to say what MB’s plan is but Luke and I spent a good hour or two trying to convince the masses on here buying out Kaberle for the sake of buying out Kaberle may not make longer term sense.

  25. SmartDog says:

    When’s the next game – is it tonight or tomorrow?

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • shiram says:


      “The game isn’t played on the weight scale and it’s not played in the gym, it’s played on the ice and it’s whoever wanted it more.” #81

      • wjc says:

        Have you ever heard of boxing divisions?

        Have you ever watched football?

        In boxing heavyweights fight in their own class for a reason….Heavyweights do not fight lightweights for a reason. The advantage is unfair and someone can get hurt.

        In minor hockey players play in their own age groups, so the majority are roughly the same size. (not always of course, but the attempt is there.)

        In football, the line is big for a reason, because they have to be physical. Big 250 pound guys crashing with big 250 pound plus guys. You will not usually find a determined 170 pound guy trying to trade tackles with these huge guys…..they could try, but they would not last long.

        Now in hockey, which is a physical game, you need your share of big guys to offset the other teams big guys. If both teams are equally small, then it is not an issue. But the successful teams have that balance.

        You can be smaller and tough, but you need to have bigger guys around to handle the bullying that takes place.

        So, I agree that the game is not played in the gym, I disagree, that you can give up to much in size and still be successful, unless the bigger guys are just slow or not as talented. The big guys are not slow anymore and one hit can put out of the game. Whereas you could hit them all night and they could/would shrug you off.

        Something to consider.


  26. Chris says:

    The good news is that we just have to survive another 20 days or so and then the UFA (Bickell? Fistric? Clarkson? Scuderi?), buyout (Lecavalier? Volchenkov? Kaberle?) and draft nonsense will all fade into the summer.

    The draft has always been my favourite. People spend so much time discussing something that is basically chaos. Once you get past the first 5-10 picks, the whole thing blows up and you have no idea who or what each teams is going to end up with. The surprise of Montreal’s draft last season was that pretty much every guy they picked was expected to go higher.

    Given that knowledge, I have no idea why so many spend so much time perusing mock drafts. Once you get past the top-10, you could probably put names into a hat and come up with something that wouldn’t be too far off.

    • Habfan17 says:

      The rankings that seem to be consistently close to where players are picked is the Hockey News. I like to compare that during the draft.
      It isn’t a mock draft or prediction of who each team will draft. just where they think players will end up going, but it is still fun to watch since they release it before we know where all the teams will be selecting.


    • SmartDog says:

      I love draft day.

      When Gallgher was picked in the 5th round I Googled him and posted on there that he would make to the team. There was so much character in his articles to go with his amazing numbers – I loved the kid right off. THAT’s what is great bout draft day to me. Suddenly these guys you have no idea existed become something to watch.

      PS: would love it if there’s a way to go in the archives and see whta exactly I said about Gallgher. Is there?

      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

      • Kooch7800 says:

        I am actually shocked he went in the 5th round and would think it was mainly due to his size. He is a heck of a hockey player. I just hope they insulate him a bit next year. Teams were starting to target him big time near the end of the season. The crazy part is i think it made him play better

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

        • habstrinifan says:

          I think in the end it affecte dhim. He became a ‘meaner’ player and lost some of his ‘skills’ and effectiveness. I am with you… they better insulate him and definitely not try to make him the ‘grit character guy’ for DD and Pacs…

      • habstrinifan says:

        Same here re Gallagher from day #1. I think is Hudon bulks up a bit he will be also a hab regular.. but if his body grows along the same lines as it stands.. afraid not. But he has all the traits of a good NHLER.

      • Chris says:

        I admire Gallagher because I honestly wasn’t sure that he was an NHL player. I’m happy to be wrong. Hockey is a funny game…guys that perhaps shouldn’t make it do, and guys that have all the tools and seemingly the right attitude don’t.

      • wjc says:

        Smart dog, you hit that one right on the head. You nailed it. You saw something, a spark whatever. I never seen him play in the minors, i just heard he was a sniper.


    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Chris, why d’you have to be like that? Draft nonsense? Chaos, blowed up, names in a hat. UFA and buyouts over and now we do the long slow fade into summer? So now I’m stuck riding my bike and going to the lake and barbecues, waiting for training camp, with only the prospect camps to break up the monotony?

      I don’t have much, why do you want to take my summer nerdout from me?

      “There’s a little bit of embelleshing going on. You know, on our team, we don’t accept it. You kow, it’s something we don’t accept as players, and as teammates.”–Milan Lucic.

    • Timo says:

      And then what will we talk about?

      • Chris says:

        The historical and cultural significance of Patrice Brisebois.

        I expect your dissertation on my desk by next Friday. 😉

        • SmartDog says:

          Okay… I’ve started!

          Patrice Brisebois was a hockey player. He was a defensiveman. He played in the NHL in Canada. He played for the Montreal Canadians in Montreal.

          Pretty good I’d say!

          (I used to be a university lecturer. Sadly this is about the level of some of the things I had to grade.)
          Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

          • wjc says:

            He learned to take abuse, like a man. His nickname was Breeze-by. He got booed at home and Gainey called the boo’ers “gutless”.

            Brisboise is rich, he is retired at 40 years old, he works for the Canadiens in player development.

            He likes race cars, racy women, and the human race, because he is rich and young and handsome and will not be hurt physically or pyschologically anymore. So take that Mr. Todd.


    • wjc says:

      Chris, do I ever agree. Once the first few players are drafted, your list could be in shambles as surprises take place. By the time it makes it to number 25 there could be a surprise still left.

      So trying to predict how you will do or who will be left is nearly impossible. Smoke screens are sent out to throw teams off, who you may be interested in for real. So all the chatter, could be meaningless.

      Mckenzie, talks to 10 scouts and takes a consensus of all ten to establish an order. Mckenzie, probably never looks at some of these picks and just compiles a list according to the ten scouts he talks to. Not very scientific, just organized chaos.


  27. Strummer says:

    Game 4 was a TV ratings victory for the NHL on Wednesday night.

    I guess Bettman can be pleased.

    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  28. <----- ALMOST PERFECT says:

    when you don’t have the money your hands are tied. Therefore MB won’t make many changes. we’ll be playing a full season this time around. He’ll make the necessary changes to hopefully make the playoffs and that’s all you’ll see.

    • SmartDog says:

      Every year during the Gainey-PG years I said (in the summer) that teams that have Cap space have great opportunities others don’t. A smart strategy is to leave cap space. But PG and Gainey would spend to the limit. It pisses me off that Bergevin, who seems to be a better strategist would sign DD to that stupid contract, putting us in a worse position than we could be for taking on a free agent.

      The thing about the DD contract compared to others is that if he falls off (and he only had 1 great year) because he’s small and there are no other French cities with teams, he’s much less interesting to anyone in trade. Take another guy who is bigger and not loved partly because he is pur laine and you could still trade him on that contract. But not DD. We’re stuck with him. And honestly, I was sort of okay with that until I saw him in the playoffs. He looked like one of the flag kids stuck in our line-up. Terrible.

      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

      • HabinBurlington says:

        What if it turns out that next summer when the cap increases, a better crop of UFA are available, we have cap space?

        Very few teams will have cap space this coming season with a drastically reduced cap.

        • Kooch7800 says:

          there isn’t exactly a huge amount of free agents available either this year. MB may look at trades but I don’t see him adding major pieces through free agency

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I would be surprised if MB doesn’t have a couple of big trades made by end of the coming season. I can’t see him moving forward with another contract with Gionta, therefore when he feels he can get the most for him I suspect he is traded.

          • Kooch7800 says:

            I would agree. I wouldn’t also be shocked if some of the D get moved either. We have a ton of above average D prospects that could be moved for Depth at Forward. I think we may see a trade before the start of next season.

            “Keep your stick on the Ice”

        • SmartDog says:

          EXACTLY. There’s not better time to have cap space than when no-one else does.

          Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

        • SmartDog says:

          I’d be okay with that. And he MIGHT be thinking ahead.

          But in 2013-2014, with 30-32 mil in cap space he’s gonna have to
          – give PK a huge payday (7 mill)
          – replace a top 6 F (Gionta) (4-6 mill)
          – give Emelin and Diaz new contracts (6 mil? together?)
          – replace about 10 other depth guys (16-20 mil?)
          So there’s 33-39 million to be paid out just to maintain our level really. The cap space everyone is talking about just isn’t there.

          I just think in a Cap world, each signing has an extra meaning… am I risking putting money in a place where I’m going to wish I had it available later?

          Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

      • wjc says:

        You still got the D.D. flea in your ear. D.D. will be fine next year. The Cole trading shook up a great line. For some reason Cole lost his desire or was off to a slow start.

        D.D. is a great playmaker, and you need to get some flea spray and then lie in the corner like a good dog.


    • Habfan17 says:

      A lot of teams have cap issues this season. There will be some buyouts and perhaps a couple of interesting players available.


    • Maritime Ron says:

      We are not that bad financially as of this exact moment.

      We have $4.7 left to Cap and a buyout of Kaberle would move that to $9M. A few 4th liners (RFA White?) brings that to $7M-$7.5M.
      Emelin will probably be on LTIR so that $2M can be replaced until he can get back (Nov-Dec?)

      Then who knows when, or if MB will move some big Cap Hits such as Markov’s $5.75M or Gionta’s $5.0M

  29. SmartDog says:

    Let’s trade Price and pick up The-Open-Door!

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  30. SmartDog says:

    For all the blockheads who now and then argue that player PSYCHOLOGY isn’t important, here’s a great article about Toews and the conversation he had before the game that sparked him.

    Here’s a clip (Toews speaking):
    The difference, he detailed, is imbued in confidence and a subsequent shift in the split-second decision-making process. “It just comes down to having that killer instinct when you’re around the net,” he continued with hearty insight, “to take the puck to the net or hang onto it that extra second instead of just making a safe play and cycling it down behind their net … It’s just having that confidence that ‘Hey you can go out there, you’ve got the puck, don’t be afraid, take a chance, throw it on net or take it to the net’…”

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      No SmartDog! There’s no stat for that. Therefore all the dimwits that write articles based purely on stats, that have never lifted a hockey stick, thrown a football or engaged in fierce competition, can’t use that type of material in their so called articles.

      There’s no such thing as leaders, warriors and momentum changing events because it doesn’t say so on the Corsi sheet!

      • SmartDog says:

        Except for “good in the room”. And we know who that is!

        Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

        • wjc says:

          Every players should be ‘good’ in the room. If they are not ‘good’ in the room then they are poison and have to be gotten rid of.

          If a player is giving his all and is good in the room the players will appreciate the effort, because chances they have hit slumps themselves that they had to play out of.

          If a guy accepts his plight and keeps working, and does not whine or complain about bad breaks, he will be considered ‘good’ in the room.

          Better then whinny, hard to be around, baby.


      • Psycho29 says:

        They can have their Fenwick and Corsi…….Actually there’s a new “stat” called the Henway that really matters.

      • wjc says:

        However, if the strategy works it will show up on the stat sheet.

        If your instincts are working right, it will be successul, more then not and will show up on the stat sheet.

        If your instincts are not correct, and you end up on your ass, more times then you hope, it will show up on the stats as a big goose egg.


  31. commandant says:

    Part 4 (Picks 46-61) of the Mock Draft

    Go Habs Go!
    Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

  32. adamkennelly says:

    seriously forget about Clarkson – he will be massively overpaid. He is not that good and not that tough.

    I’d take Bickell but other than that – go get Tarnasky to help Prust out and then make some trades – you know – trade our bad players for other team’s good players…

    Matt Martin, Jamie McGinn and Kyle Clifford…

  33. JohnBellyful says:

    Let’s take a look at what Montreal has done to rebuild the club over the past 18 months (when viewed through rose-coloured glasses):

    Replaced the general manager
    Replaced the coach
    Strengthened the management team
    Strengthened the scouting ranks
    Shed outrageous contracts
    Drafted wisely by all accounts
    Beefed up player development
    Changed the team culture

    All good moves, to be sure, but there’s one key step I see missing: What is team ownership doing, in concert with others, to exorcise Jacobs’ baleful influence on league affairs?
    Without new leadership, the NHL will remain an unprincipled enterprise where incompetent officiating and risible supplementary discipline demean the sport.
    On the other hand, if you like that sort of thing …

    • Cal says:

      Damn, JB, it reads like you’re being serious! It’s Friday, ffs!!

      • JohnBellyful says:

        Went to bed with an upset stomach, woke up with an upset stomach.
        So you can say I’m upset. And one of the things that really upsets me is the NHL.
        “It’s Friday, ffs!!” — I think you added an ‘f’ too many. Shouldn’t it be “It’s Friday, fs!!” (forsooth)?

        • Maritime Ron says:

          Unpasteurized Apple Cider Vinegar cures a lot of things but don’t wait for the prescription happy GP writers to tell you that. No gifts or honorarium fees in recommending that

          • JohnBellyful says:

            Thanks for the tip.
            However, you will need to provide some credentials.
            One question: Was Hossa hurt or fakin’ it? Diagnosis, please.

          • Maritime Ron says:

            Please call Dr. Recchi or Dr. Amonte

        • wjc says:

          NHL should bring you joy, not upset.

          You may have to get things into perspective.

          Hockey is a game, an entertainment, not a reason to be sad.


          • JohnBellyful says:

            What is entertainment but a vehicle for arousing emotions of all kinds, not just joy? One cannot fully experience bliss without also having felt sadness.

        • Cal says:

          Mayhap you are correct, my good JB. But why should we joust so? Tis better to raise a glass of good cheer than to raise our swords in anger!

    • wjc says:

      Sounds like your team is out of the playoffs. If Canadiens are in the finals next year, there will be no talk of conspiracies, unless they are playing Boston and lose.


    • wjc says:

      Jocobs is a brother…..a member of the united 30.

      They have a ‘collective agreement’ that says they have a ‘salary cap’, that says they can only spend so much money.

      They are now immune from being pressured for
      ownership to get this player or that player because they have to respect the salary cap.

      Genius, now even if you could easily afford another 25 million for players, you have to stay within a certain amount of money.

      So the pressure is off the ownership to spend even if they charge $200.000 for tickets and $20.00 for a pretzel and a beer.

      If you are an owner you can shrug and say……salary cap, we are at the limit. Then when nobody is looking they high five Jacobs.


  34. HabinBurlington says:

    Seattles King 5 TV is listing they are showing tomorrow’s game.

    Is it possible Pierre MacGuire knows not what he speaks?

  35. Habfan10912 says:

    Good morning AM crew. I read that Hossa is taking some heat for sitting out game 3. Compare that with the critisim Gionta took for playing with an injury. Sometimes you can’t win.

    • Cal says:

      Hi Jim. I guess some folks don’t realize what an extra 48 hours of rest can do. You might have time to heal up enough to play.

    • punkster says:

      God morning Jim…going there so early?

      OK, I’ll just pour me another cup of coffee, sit back and see what develops…should be fun 😉

      ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Morning Jim, you nailed it. Hammer meet Nail Head.

    • ABHabsfan says:

      Good morning gentlemen. I’ve always thought that these remarkable recoveries after 1 extra day are the result of the fact that a cortisone shot takes 24 hrs to really take effect.

      “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
      Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

    • JohnBellyful says:

      Mornin’, Jim et al
      [Who’s Al?]
      [Not Al, al]
      [His son?]
      [“It’s a scholarly abbreviation of the Latin phrase et alia, which means “and others.” It is commonly used when you don’t want to name all the people …” — Common Errors in English Language]
      [Why wouldn’t you want to name all the people?]
      [I was just trying to keep things short. Besides, I was saying Good morning to everyone, and I don’t know everyone by name.]
      [Oh, okay … Anything else, like maybe something to contribute to this discussion?]
      [Nullum multum]

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Okay, so who is Nullum multum?

        • JohnBellyful says:

          One of James Bonds’ most nefarious foes.
          You don’t remember Nullum Multum’s ultimatum?
          [Yeah, I don’t either]

          P.S. My apologies, Burl’, for gleefully reporting the outcome of last night’s exhibition match — Hamilton 52 Winnipeg 0, in case anyone missed it. The Tabbies have been disappointing for some time so any opportunity a Ticat fan gets to gloat, however briefly and whatever the circumstance, he runs with it — just like Raymond Brown did last night when he returned an interception 115 yards for a TD.
          [insert emoticon for teehee]

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I would love to say “Just you wait until regular season!” But I think any threats will ring hollow with this years edition of the Bombers. As sure as we are that the Sun will rise tomorrow, Buck Pierce will surely be injured in Game 1 of the regular season. Alas, at least the Bombers have a stadium to play in, granted the parking at it is just as bad as Ivor Wynne. I have no rebuttal, I concede, No Mas!

    • habstrinifan says:

      Hossa went and said to his teammates “guys I am very sorry.. I wont be any use on the ice..sorry” sat out and played the next game effectively.

      Gionta said to his teammate in the game before “man I cant shoot at all(on the bench)” then went to his coach just before game and said basically “play me man I am better with one arm than anyone you got(sadly he and the coach agreed) .. and he went out and didint make a difference.

      Went over great in the room.. just as Gomez’s departure was mourned by our capatain.

  36. on2ndthought says:

    If we can trade Kaberle’s contract , great otherwise buy him out. A Bickell or Clarkson would be a gt add on,
    1a Pax Chuck Gally (keep ’em together the whole decade)
    1b Bourque Eller Gio
    3 Prust Pleks Add-on/White
    4. Moen DD White/Army

    This gives Pleks and DD some size and space, they can maximize offense from gritty players. Our D is deep and developing, and we don’t have cash for a big free agent splash, but we can get better while our talent pool gets a year older.

    “a cannonading drive”

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