Buffalo came back twice to beat the Leafs and stay alive.
Florida lost at home to Washington and failed to clinch.
Nashville moved into fourth in the Western Conference, and San Jose beat Dallas to hang onto eighth.
The Canadiens were idle … but there was news.
Peter Budaj’s back-up against Tampa Bay at the Bell Centre Wednesday night will be Robert Mayer, who was recalled from Hamilton with forward Gabriel Dumont.
And Pierre LeBrun of ESPN reported the Canadiens’ search for a new general manager has reached out to super agent Pat Brisson (clients include Sidney Crosby, Jonathan Toews and Evgeni Malkin) and Chicago assistant GM Marc Bergevin.
The Canadiens also have asked Toronto for permission to interview Leafs assistant GM Claude Loiselle.
• Does Price have a concussion?
• The consistency of Josh Gorges
• As go the Canadiens, so goes RDS
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as far as the shootout deliberation is concerned and the 1 point for a team that loses why not just have 5 mins of overtime. Then if that doesn’t settle it, each team gets a 5 on 4 power play till someone scores, winner gets the 2 points loser 0 and thats that
Slight concussion for Price apparently…missing the rest of the season.
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The Milbury article raises an interesting point:
The Wild West is no longer so wild anymore. It used to be that there were tons of brawls out west, and they would sneer at the ‘fancy’ game of the east.
Now, it’s the Beasts of the East and the Mild West, as teams like Vancouver and Detroit dominate with their finesse play, while Philly and Boston bash skulls in the East.
Funny how things turn around, innit?
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Out of the top 10 scorers in the league only 2 are from the West, 8th place H. Sedin, and in 10th Hossa.
Funny stuff indeed.
Pendulum swing and “the times, they are achangin…”
“May you live in interesting times.”
It seems like the “new” NHL is whatever team is having success. After the lock out, speedy teams like Buffalo made Chara look so bad in the playoffs that Ottawa decided to sign Redden instead of Chara. ( I bet they would like a do-over!!!). Everyone said Montreal was too small after the 2010 rebuild on-the-fly, until they went to the ECF. The size debate was over…until Montreal started losing and Boston wins the Cup with truculence. Now size and truculence is important again, just like Brian Burke said… except Toronto now has a small, speedy team built for the “new” NHL.
The best team in the league is the Blues who are all huge monsters, proving that size and toughness matter, until the Canucks passed them in the standings with a speedy, finesse team with no toughness at all. Confused yet? Me too.
Yeah, for sure.
Which is why I don’t agree with everyone pillorying Gainey. He built a team for the ‘New NHL’, which was going to be dominated by speed and skill.
They did well until the thugs, who had neither of those things, took over, and the NHL turned a blind eye.
Gainey shouldn’t be blamed for building a team for what the NHL purported to be, the NHL should be blamed for not sticking to their promise.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
For correction’s sake: Florida lost to Winnipeg last night, not Washington. The Capitals had the night off last night after losing to Tampa the other night, allowing Buffalo to catch them again with their own win vs Toronto.
Interesting discussion re Max Lapierre in previous thread. I dont think I have to repeat myself re the folly of trading away Max. I may have exaggerated his goal-scoring prowess but who knows.
What a shame?
I like the solidly logical response from some when players like Max are brought up.
__________ asked for a trade. You fill in the blank.
Sound strategy for running a franchise.
We only persevere to the nth degree with players who smile and let us know how good they feel to be here. Anyone comes to mind?
Seems to me he was a casuality of the JM regime…
Lapierre demanded a trade because he wasn’t happy with his ice-time, which was pure bullshit. At the time his average ice-time was among the tops in the league for 4th liners, which is exactly what he is. In other words, he didn’t want to play here anymore. He was even given an opportunity to play on the top 6 as a winger on more than one occasion.
But of course now he scores 10 goals a year on one of the best teams in the league and he’s just another one of those players Montreal apparently tossed away.
JM decided he hated Lapierre, Latendresse, and SK74 before they even showed up for their first training camp.
They all left for nothing and are doing well elsewhere (except for Gui’s unfortunate injury).
We have a roster where half the forwards are AHLers, and have given away as many players for nothing (add Dagostini, Moore, Halpern, etc … to that list). I think this more than anything else is why JM was fired.
The idea that he should be brought back as GM is absurd.
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Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
Sorry HF, but Gui’s unfortunate injury comes hard on the heels of his ‘self-imposed-injury-through-fatness-and-general-out-of-shapeness’. I have little pity for Guimauve.
(man, Mattyleg’s gone Full Hater these days! Sheesh!)
—Hope Springs Eternal—
I thought he had come in good shape this season, after being called out by the owner last season…
You don’t have to feel sorry for him, but you can’t blame him for incurring a concussion. That’s the fault of Colin Campbell, Brendan Shanahan, Gary Bettman, Jack Edwards, Mike Milbury, Don Cherry, Nick Kypreos, ….
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How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?
http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/
For sure.
Concussions are no fun for no-one.
I’ll leave laughing at them to Mike Milbury.
I just think his out-of-shapeness gave a pretty good indication of his overall attitude, and nicely supported our canning of his butt.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Chris,
Re: Brisson
Don’t confuse anything with the ego/self confidence/near arrogance of men like Brisson who when faced by a seemingly impossible task jump at the opportunity to confront the challenge!
…for Brisson to be interested, and accept the GM position would blow My mind …WHY ??? In the World would He walk-away from His lucrative agency and California lifestyle for the uncertainty of a GM position in the Montreal hockey circus ?
…if he is crazy enough to decide to do so, it must mean he truly has been an unrequited Fan of Our Habs
…BUT …
How many agents get their name on the cup?
Do you know who Guy Lafleur’s agent was in 1977?
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Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
Try Brian Burke!
For one.
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The cerebral insight of PJ Stock:
“Le problem est Markov n’a pas jouer un seul game cette annee”
“Louis Leblanc est un kid locale”
If Brisson becomes gm, won’t that become a conflict of interest as he negotiates Crosby’s contract when he joins the Habs?
Re-print:
Mike Milbury has lots to say
About hockey plays gone astray
But when violence erupts
The stands he runs up
To shoo a poor fan away
“May you live in interesting times.”
Re-print from last night!
There was an old burnout who lived with a shoe,
He had so few braincells, he didn’t know what to do;
He made some bad trades and some comments not cool,
That’s what NBC gets for hiring a fool.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Read you tomorrow!
“May you live in interesting times.”
I just passed Ronald Corey in the hallway of the building where I work.
So do you need somebody to come down and bail you out? Has Corey regained consciousness?
Did you tell him that was the last time you’ll be working in that building?
LOL!
How long until medical attention arrives?
If you add up all the goals scored by ex hab forwards this year on other teams it would be an impressive total….now many of these players did not perform here or were seen as not a good fit..now that decision by management is fine if they can bring in capable replacements…gauthier and his staff failed badly on this…
just for fun…tom pyatt= 12 goals
palujshaj,nokelainen,goeffrion,blunden,white,gomez,stabitz,enqqvist= 9 goals
Ryder with 35+
98% of the HIO members wanted Pyatt gone when he was still here.
I would not want him back either.
Does the photo give some hint to the cause of Price’s injury? Gorges backhanding him in the head?
On Gagnon’s article:
Check out the bars in Montreal. You know the ones with the CH painted on their windows and the banks upon banks of cheap flat-screen tvs?
The bars that used to be cool places to hang out and have a drink and chat, but decided to install tvs so that they could cash in on CHmania… and then leave the tvs on all the time, regardless of whether there is anything on, thus killing the ambiance of the place?
Yeah, the ones with all the empty chairs, and the owners wondering how they’re going to pay for said tvs.
Whence the Habs go, so too go these bars that sold out their natural atmosphere for hockey fans. I hope they learn something from it.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
It’s safe to say Habs probably won’t have a GM in place for the April 10 draft lottery. Who will represent team at table? Molson? Savard? Youppi! ?
Savard and/or Molson would seem logical.
Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.
timmins …
Yup, having Trevor there would make alot of sense.
The scouts are usually there as advisors, no?
—Hope Springs Eternal—
I’d hope so.
Plus, you know, he could always become that new GM, we are all dreaming about.
Randy Cunneyworth, with the title of Non-Francophone Interim Representative
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Probably Carriere.
As are the other candidates.
USA has decided to leave Galchenyuk off their U-18 roster… So much for getting a better look at the kid. What a shame.
That’s a shame, I was hoping to see him. I wonder why they decided against him?
Hey may have decided against them.
True, same result though.
Another slow day around here, uh?
Nothing much to say, and discussing GM’s gets boring quickly, to me anyways.
Not excited about Dumont, and Mayer should normally not get a sniff of ice time.
I’ll watch the game, but as it’s been the case latetly, might tune out after a while.
Brisson ?…Bergevin ? …Brisebois ?
…no shortage of exceptionally qualified bilingual candidates
…makes the language issue quite moot
If Sutter doesn’t get rehired in Calgary I think he could play the leading role in the next Dracula film. He,s got Nosferatu ears.
Richard R
He’s no Christopher Lee.
On board Via train to Montreal.
He’s no George Hamilton either.
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Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.
…Felipe Alou ! … No question !
The ice surface in front of the player’s bench would be covered with sesame seed shells at the end of every game.
Richard R
And Alou meets the bilingual requirements. English and Spanish.
I have to say that I like the list of candidates. For those crying about the language issue, please submit a list of unilingual anglophone candidates that could be available that are OBVIOUSLY better choices than Julien Brisebois, Pat Brisson, Marc Bergevin and Claude Loiselle.
The more I think about it, the more intriguing Pat Brisson is as a candidate, and not only for the fantasy of seeing him bring in Crosby as a UFA in a couple of years. This man has been the top agent for many years and has a superstar list of clients who respect him. He has negotiated with GMs across the league. He played Junior Hockey in the Q and was a good player. He has also been involved in building grassroots hockey in California.
This is a man with great credentials and contacts who knows the game. He also knows the collective bargaining agreement because of his role as agent. He has a terrific public image and seems passionate about being involved in growing the game.
If the man is interested in the job, I think he should be the top choice. If it were possible to bring in a tandem of Brisson-Brisebois, I think that would be a dream.
Exciting days ahead as we await the outcome of the search for our next GM.
I see a conflict of interest. How can a person be GM for one team and represent players of others? If Brisson gets the job he has to relinquish his clients otherwise it’s a non-starter.
Yeah that’s true for sure, but after he becomes a GM, he would still have some influence on his former clients and would affect where they chose to sign.
ummmm..iam sure Brisson would devoid himself of hockey agent business. gillis did the same when he went to Vancouver.
it will never happen anyway as Brisson will end up taking a paycut..he makes serious coin as an agent.
steve yzerman..why not ask the owner of the bolts..can only say no.
IF you were forced to choose a new GM from the following candidates who would you choose?
a) Mike Milbury
b) Mr.Peanut
c) Felipe Alou
d) Michel Bergeron
e) Kevin Lowe
f) Kato Kaelin
g) PJ Stock
Bergie!!
“Le Tigre!”
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Kato. He sees everything and says nothing.
HE would love the spotlight
Plus the Habs could save money because he could live in someone’s pool house…
As long as the next Habs GM is not a Vegan ….
f. Just for a blast from the OJ Simpson past.
Mr. Peanut. He’s one salty guy.
Richard R
What do you guys think it would take to grab a pick around the 10-15 spot? Would something like a second + Weber/Diaz/Dietz start a conversation with a team looking to pick a Dman? Would ne nice to grab Faksa or Colberg after Galchenyuk/Grigorenko/Forsberg.
The Flames will be looking to add younger roster players. May have to eat a contract though.
But if the Flames trade away their pick you’d have to imagine that fan base will form a mob to remove Feaster. Still can’t believe they haven’t blown that team up. They have between assets that could be flipped for a boatload of prospects and picks.
Faksa won’t be available in the 10-15 range.
Your package is a lowball at best I think. To move into the 10-15 range you would need to offer up a very good prospect or a great package of picks.
Senators and Blues trade comes to mind. Runblad for the Tarasenko pick which I believe was in that range.
So realistically. If you want a pick in that range, you’re looking at one of Tinordi, Beaulieu or Gallagher plus a pick(probably a 2nd).
Tinordi and Beaulieu are essentially mid first rounders, except they are one and two years closer to the NHL than whoever the Habs would pick.
In other words, Tinordi and Beaulieu alone are worth more than that pick (a priori).
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They are more valuable but not when making a trade. To get somebody to give up a draft pick in that range you have to provide a pick from that range or a collection of picks that meat a threshold necessary for the other team to part with the pick.
You think a 2nd and a 3rd is gonna get that done? No chance in hell.
If you want a 10-15 pick, you’re giving up a first round pick or prospect who was a first round pick.
Teams don’t select players in the first round that they believe are a long shot to make the NHL.
If it requires Beaulieu, Tinordi, or Gallagher, then yeah that will be too much to pay. I know my offer is a lowball, but that’s why I was saying a start.
Dietz has been coming along nicely and like Weber or Diaz, will be ready sooner than anyone picked in the mid first round. Throw in our 2nd, which is likely to be 30-35, and I think that’s a good starting point. But whatever that 3rd piece would be is what would make it worth doing or not.
I know it’s a longshot, but I can dream for a few months.
A 15th would take a first in 2013+ an early second round pick in 2012 and if there is a bidding war for the 15th, perhaps a prospect.
Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.
See the Runblad trade.
St. Louis traded him(#17 overall selection previously) to the Ottawa Senators for their #16 overall selection in 2010. Vladmir Tarasenko was the choice St. Louis made.
Your package for a #15 pick is out of this world.
There is a big difference between trading a high quality prospect for a pick and trading picks for picks.
In the 2010 draft, LA acquired the #15 pick from Florida (prior owned by Boston) in return for the #19 pick in 2010 and the #59 pick in 2010.
I think my suggestion of a 2012 second round pick + 2013 first + possible prospect is pretty much equivalent.
Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.
You said high first rounder plus second rounder.
LA’s second rounder in that deal is nearly a third rounder and the first round pick they sent is in the middle part of the second half of the first round.
That’s a far cry from high draft picks from the first and second rounds.
I think your reasoning is skewed a bit because your forgetting that Florida already had picked 3rd in 2010. The upshot of the trade was that Florida gained one draft pcik in 2010 in return for moving down 5 spots. FLO walked in friday morning with 2 first rd and 2 second rd picks and walked out with 2 first rd and 3 second rd picks. To do the equivalent means you have to target WAsh or Buff as they are the only teams with picks in the 10-15th spots and have multiple first rd picks. Then then you have to convince them that the bird in the bush (2013 1st round) is better than the one in their hand.
No because I said a 2013 first not a 2012 first. There is a huge difference betweeen a 13 and a 12.
Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.
Anyone else thinking it would be good to hire someone like Bergevin who is connected out west? Teams are always more likely to trade talented players to another conference, right? In a perfect world GMs should always be happy to take each other’s calls, but I don’t think we live in a perfect world. I suspect Gauthier made all his trades secretly because he knew most of the GMs wouldn’t pick up when they saw Cookie Monster on their caller id.
I wonder if PG has a cookie stash hidden away somewhere in his Vermont home?
Richard R
Im sure he got a little something extra from Jim Rutherford after the Craperle deal.
So is it “best man for the job” or Francophones only?
The best man who can speak French.
Luckily, for once, many of the best candidates available are bilingual.
I was listening to Serge Savard’s interview on team 990 and… first off, I wish he would take the job, but second he was very clear that the guy MUST speak french AND english.
He knows what it takes cause he’s been there twice and he WILL find someone who at least has the potential to get us there. Molson was pretty brilliant bringing him in as a talent scout.
“Let’s be clear on the facts…”
sorry if this has already been posted…..http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=392199
“The fans were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of Grigorenko danced in their heads ”
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“It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”
Galchenyuk for me. But I’ll be happy with whatever Timmins decides, along as 3 of our top 4 picks are forwards.
Going to be there tonight. Can’t wait! Hopefully that piece of sh*t Malone will leave with some facial damage.
During the Tampa Washington game McGuire was talking about how classy Malone was for not continuing his beat down on Chimera. Where was Pierre when Malone lost his mind against Montreal.
I hate the NHL standings. It tells me very little about how teams are doing in regulation. I want to know over 60 minutes of true hockey whether the team generally wins loses or ties. An overtime win or shootout win ar not at all the same quality of victory as an overtime win. I wish the standings would include regulation wins.
In a world of wins, losses and ties, without overtime, Montreal would have 22 wins 35 losses and 22 ties for 66 points. Over 70% of Montreal’s games result in at least one point for the opposition.
Teams are awarded a phantom goal for or against for shootout wins and losses. I would prefer that the goals for and against be limited to goals actually scored or allowed. It becomes very difficult to compare teams when the numbers are flawed.
Florida, who may win their weak division, has 30 regulation wins and 25 ties for 85 non gimmick points. Ex phantom shootout goals, they scored 191 goals and allowed 211. Montreal scored 197 goals and allowed 210. As bad as Montreal actually is, their record could easily improve next season by 20 points without doing anything. The NHL regular season is so random that the same quality of offense and defense can lead to a last place finish or a third seed in the playoffs. This does not make hockey less entertaining but it does make the results less meaningful.
Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.
Being awarded a point for losing a hockey game is perhaps the most idiotic rule the league has implemented in its existence.
If they don’t want ties, they should play 4 on 4 until it’s over. It’s incredibly rare that five minutes of boring defensive hockey occurs in a four on four setting.
Not so sure. What percentage of OT games end up having to go to shootout?
I don’t think it matters what percentage of regulation tied games to a shootout. Deciding a game by providing each team with three breakaways is a ridiculous way to determine a team’s merit for the playoffs where there is no such deciding factor in a hockey game.
By large majority the four on four hockey that I’ve seen has been exciting and full of skill and teamwork.
This isn’t basketball, football or soccer regardless of how much Mr. Bettman would like it to be.
1198 games season to date. 290 games went to overtime. 115 were settled in overtime and 175 were shootouts .
24% of games result in a regulation tie.
14.6% of games result in an overtime tie
39.6% of ties are settled in overtime.
60.4% of ties are settled in the shootout.
In 1990, prior to overtime, 13.3% of games resulted in a regulation tie. In 1989 less than 12% of games resulted in a tie.
With overtime, regulation ties are twice as prevalent as without. This is partly due to lower goals per game today than 1990 but also a consequence of teams playing less aggressively when tied in the third period.
Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.
The NHL semantics are that each team is awarded a point of a regulation tie and a bonus point is awarded to the overtime or shootout winner. So there is no loser point, only a winner point. But the fans look at it as awarding a point for losing a game in overtime and two points for winning a game in overtime. The NHL has not convinced many people that their system makes sense.
I never saw anything wrong with regular regulation hockey, 60 minutes resulting in a win loss or tie. I would be happy with that system. I would also be happy if all games led to either a winner take all win or loss and points were eliminated in favor of winning percentage like baseball or basketball. But to me, the current points system and standings are confusing and misleading.
Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.
Exactly. The NHL’s phrasing of the rule is a citing of semantics that ignore the flaw with the process.
It’s like saying that the Canucks didn’t lose in the Stanley Cup Finals, they were one game away from winning it.
Maybe they should revert to 4 on 4 in the last 5 minutes of a tied third? Then they could go to 3 on 3 for the OT.
Can’t do it. You can’t stop the clock with five minutes left in the third period.
That would just be shortening the game by five minutes.
I feel like the clock has been effectively stopped with five minutes to go in the third if the game is tied. Teams shut down and play for the overtime point. My stats above show that in the overtime era, regulation ties have doubled. I think that can be partially attributed to conservative play late in tied games. Perhaps a stats expert can run a test of prevalence of tie breaking goals scored in the last five minutes of games today compared to the prior era.
Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.
This is the second most significant reason that the loser point should not be awarded. It takes away from the product on the ice. The most important being that teams are rewarded with a point for every game that goes to overtime.
I would be satisfied with the current system deciding games but with no point for being tied at the conclusion of regulation.
I fully agree. However, the extra point benefits the league by making the standings more close and adding shootout highlights to ESPN.
Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.
Win, Loss or Tie … That’s it!
Mornin’ tout le body!
Sunny day here in Habcentral, and I’m goin’ to the game tonight!
Only pity is that I have no goddamn voice…bleh.
Taking an Irish buddy along with me. He’s been here nearly a year and is a total Habs fanatic now. Bad year to start supporting La Flannelle, but I guess it can only get better…
Looking forward to seeing a Ryan Malone beat-down. Anyone will do. Staubitz, White, Blunden, Plekanec… anyone. Bash that hairy creep’s face in for Emmy, I say.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
LOL I’d love to see Plekanec just finally snap after all the losing, the crappy assignments, the AHL wingers, and drag Malone to the woodshed & take out a whole year + of frustration on him in an epic surprise beatdown!
Ha!!
Problem is, when the quiet guys crack, it’s usually pretty serious.
He’d probably only stop when Malone’s dead!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
That’s exactly how I’m picturing it.
Cammi does what Cammi does best – being a phony.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/Rebuild+Flames+Cammalleri+prefers+reload/6406673/story.html
I think he’s actually more interested in the summer training camps than the season.
will probably shoot another commercial
Money isn’t everything and reaching out to Pat Brisson is one thing. But looking at his list of clients, it would take nothing short of a miracle for him to leave his current job to join the Canadiens as GM. They include Crosby, Briere, Duchene, Fowler, Heatley, Kane, Kopitar, Malkin, the Sedins, Tavares, Toews, Giroux and he also has Nathan Mackinnon.
I figure those guys alone are netting him around $6.5 million annually. And I left a lot of names out.
I think the only thing that would drive Brisson is if his ego wants the challenge, and perhaps he has a deep rooted passion for the Habs.
I don’t make the ego comment in a negative light, but eventually when a person has had the success he has, it becomes more about ego than money. (So I am told, for now money is still important to me hehe).
He is an intriguing fellow, clearly a very smart fellow.
That’s one of the questions. Does he want to build something?
Other factors to note are that in the agency world Brisson would be able to sell his book of business to a colleague with the same firm for half of the commission over the life of the contracts. So he could probably walk from his agency with around $20 million in balloon payment.
The other is the question of what the Habs are willing to pay the right candidate? I’m guessing no more than $3 million but that is an uneducated guess.
Just curious, any of the mentioned GM candidates NOT bilingual?
And I’m ALL for bilingual. As long as they don’t (cough-PG-cough) suck. If bookies took bets on how PG was going to turn out as a Habs GM, the HIO commentariate could’ve put the mafia out of business. So obviously not a guy with the right insight and talents to be a big dog in the big leagues.
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Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!
Every candidate named so far is bilingual.
Well, as no one has posted this (to my knowledge) and it’s VERY slow newsday… what if we WERE in the playoffs and PRICE HAS A FREAKING CONCUSSION and we have NO SERIOUS BACKUP GOALIE… there’s fat for the fire.
Thanks. I’m here all week.
Also, Down Goes Brown has the GM application form, it’s hilarious. (Previously posted by another HIOer , but worth revisiting)
What teams have a more capable backup than Budaj right now?
St. Louis, Rangers(debatable), Bruins(health concerns), Ottawa.
I think the only teams that you could reasonably expect to do better with their backup than the Habs are the Blues and Senators.
Canucks, Flyers, Devils, Sabres, Avs, Panthers, Caps, all have a better backup than Montreal.
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Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
You want Luongo in the playoffs?
Bobrovsky? Enroth has one win in how many months? Theodore and Clemmensen are shaky at best. The Capitals goaltending has been abysmal all season long.
Hedberg I’ll give you. And I would be more comfortable with the Canucks situation even with Luongo’s bi-polar tendencies.
I realize Budaj doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence. But putting myself in the shoes of the teams you mentioned. There isn’t a single organization other than the Canucks, Bruins and Blues where I would be comfortable with the backup, and in the Canucks case, I’d be more comfortable with the backup than the starter.
Perhaps, but I think all those backups are better than Budaj.
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Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
Anyone know what day the draft lottery is held?
Monday the 9th of April
“Step off George”
On the calender, thanks!
Not so fast. It’s actually on TSN Tue April 10 at 8pm et.
You can go to TSN website to confirm.
Sweet. I hope there’s a liveblog that night. Merci.
I believe the 9th is the release of the final CSS draft rankings.
Opps…my bad, you are correct
“Step off George”
With the Habs golfing by the end of next week, I think the Bruins and Sens series could be interesting.
I was watching the Sens game last night and Neil is an animal. He absolutely destroyed a couple Canes with huge hits but got a penalty on both. One should have been called but the other was a joke.
Anyway, they showed a hit of his on Boychuk earlier in the season and I think it’s the hardest hit I’ve seen since the Subban hit on the rat last year.
I think it is going to be on real nasty and intense series between the Sens and Bruins.
Neal dealt with Brad (the finger) Ference very handily last night.
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D Mex
I think Neil felt the Boychuk hit too…took him a while to get up…although that might have been because Chara was waiting for him to get up.
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Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.
Good points. As a digression, Foligno’s hit on Gunnarson last night was fierce, and if it’s OK to go way back, Larry Robinson demolished Gary Dornhoefer, and Wendel Clark did the same to Mark Howe (after which he had a Rockem Sockem Robot fight with Rich Tocchet).
“May you live in interesting times.”
Talking about legal hits.
“May you live in interesting times.”
Are you kidding, Claude Loiselle? What about Garth Snow? Or how about the captain of the Titanic? Is he still around?
Would the captain of the Costa Concordia do instead?
“May you live in interesting times.”
He’s holding out for a book deal. He’ll have lots of time to write it in prison.
What about Marcel Marceau?
He even speaks French with his hands.
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I think he went down with his ship. Glug, glug, glug.
Richard R
I’m in town for the game tonight. Where’s a good spot to cozy up to a bar for a pregame meal? I’m on the tankwagon but would rather not see the boys lose this one.
Baton Rouge right beside the arena always has a good atmosphere….although it can get packed
“Step off George”
Hurley’s on Crescent St. between St. Catherine and Rene Levesque.
I’ll be there, going to the game too!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Thanks for all the suggestions. Heard of Hurley’s often here, a rite of passage it seems!
Get some tacos at the place on Crescent St. right above Masioneuve. Place isn’t stupid packed before games and they have a good bar.
Well, this just in from TSN:
“Sources told TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun on Tuesday that the Canadiens have reached out to Chicago Blackhawks assistant GM Marc Bergevin and player agent Pat Brisson to discuss their vacant post.
La Presse columnist and TSN contributor Francois Gagnon reports that the team has also contacted Tampa Bay Lightning assistant GM Julien BriseBois and Toronto Maple Leafs assistant GM Claude Loiselle.”
Unleash the Commentariat.
No McGuire or Roy sightings – so far so good
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D Mex
No John Ferguson Jr. either…now THAT was a frightening rumour.
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Aarrrggg Captain that was a really frightening rumor.
Mr. Biter
No Guts No Glory
Imagine. They are actually checking out more than 1 candidate. Unheard of.
Perhaps the days of anointing the nearest body are over. It would also be nice if we opened ourselves to various offers on the trade market.
Ah Pat Brisson… probably the most interesting name out there. Arguably the most successful agent out there, he’d be one hell of a negotiator.
He’s played the game, knows all the players, understands the CBA (or has a team of people that do), he’s from QC…
I wonder if he’s interested. He’s at the top of his game soaking up the rays in SoCal…
He would have to take a significant pay cut lol
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From Wikipedia’s entry on Mike Komisarek. Not sure what incident they’re referring to.
“On April 3, 2012 at a game in Buffalo, NY, Komisarek angered Sabres forward Marcus Foligno, for which he and the Leafs were made to look silly.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Komisarek
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Wkipedia is not a reliable source for information.
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I should make clear, it’s obvious that the entry has been vandalized. I’m just curious what Mike Komisarek did to spur someone to do so.
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With a tip of the hat to JohnBellyful….
Carey Price was taking a breather
When a shoe flew from the bleachers
But quick as a gopher
Josh blocked the loafer
And Milbury departed a sneaker
“May you live in interesting times.”
and Milbury left minus one sneaker
Richard R
No editing allowed. Write your own!
Sorry, couldn’t help myself.
Richard R
Given NBC’s interest in the NHL with their new tv contract and the fact that their new sports station relies on NHL to fill alot of time, will executives at NBC be at all concerned with Milbury’s blathering comments? Pittsburgh and Crosby are the darlings of NBC’s TV coverage afterall.
yeah, NBC might have strongly suggested to Milbury to apologize, which he did yesterday.
Mike,
THe Jets beat Florida last night not the Caps.
Mr. Biter
No Guts No Glory
But then who beat the Capitols (kidding)?
“May you live in interesting times.”
I think the Caps had the night off but Mike decieded to give them 2 points anyway.
Mr. Biter
No Guts No Glory
He is just trying to keep the playoff race tight is all. Very creative on his part.
Or testing the attention span of HIO posters.
“May you live in interesting times.”
Ari Gold for GM!
He’s a smurf.
***Subbang Baby!!!***
Zing!
He is a smurf who hires pretty boys, but press conferences sure would be entertaining.
I’d love for him to get in a war of words with Burke, Cherry or Milbury.
Here’s your rumour of the day.
The Leafs have not allowed us to speak to Loiselle because they are re-thinking their front office. They will get rid of Burke at the end of the season and Loiselle would be among the possible replacements.
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Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
Burke will be available? Great, we could use more padding on that stanchion.
***Subbang Baby!!!***
Anyone cheerin’ Stamkos? Lots of spite…. on this site….for Crosby, Ovechkin, and even the only all-star Hab.
“May you live in interesting times.”
And I would cheer a Lightning player because…?
It’s not like he’s breaking any records or anything, is he.
Just plain ole admiration for virtuoso skill. 60 goals is phenomenal. If he ain’t injured, he’ll be on the roster for the World Ice Hockey Championships, and Sochi Olympics.
“May you live in interesting times.”
Good for him. He is a true sniper. Just hope he stays away from Cammy’s workouts or he will get worse lol
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But then maybe they both can run track for the Rio di Janeiro Olympics!
“May you live in interesting times.”
and he would then need two shaving bags like Cammy right?
check out this page, it is of Mike Komisarek, look at the graph and try and figure out when he became a leaf lol
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nhl/1412/mike-komisarek
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I think “when he left Markov’s shadow” would be more appropriate.
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/jordan-leopold-chaotic-controversial-goal-saved-buffalo-sabres-024954253.html
Friggin Refs strike again. No way did the Zebras see the puck in the mess of players …. no way ….
i though it was a good play
Great video. Scrivens lost his stick and held onto Leopold’s. Leafs win the draw but Komie couldn’t get possession and couldn’t slow Foligno but had me convinced they do put pylons on the ice during play.
“May you live in interesting times.”
foligno has looked solid the past couple weeks. wish we had him . . . oh and komy was terrible
Lots of love (lol2?) for this 19yr. old on TO sports radio this AM. Would look great in Le bleu, blanc, rouge……sigh…..
“May you live in interesting times.”
Look again. Ref standing right next to the goalie watching the puck the entire time. Good call.
***Subbang Baby!!!***
No way could he see the puck. The Refs need to help the Sabres get into the playoffs I see …
Come on Dean, take off the sunglasses when indoors.
Ref. Orange arm bands. Standing to the goalie’s right. They have them in all the games.
***Subbang Baby!!!***
You actually sound like a laffs fan with those comments. Best look at the video again and look a little closer. The reff almost became part of the scrum making sure he had clear view.
I can’t stand both teams …
If that was the Habs that the Sabres scored on like that, you guys would be having fits!
Bingo.
Just saw the Sharks vs Stars highlights and I can’t see why teams can’t hold onto Dominic Moore. He had about 2 assists that game, he played relatively well with us, did the same in Tampa…
Doesn’t seem to be the type of player that will rock the boat in the locker room either.
What do you guys think?
Apparently he always asks for too much money. Then settles for less when nobody will pay him as much as he wants.
I have always wondered if there is a bit of a guilt by association with Moore as it relates to his brother suing an NHL team/Bertuzzi etc…
I have no insight on it, but seems no team will give him more than a 1 year contract and are happy to move him. Odd to say the least. Of course one of the first moves Burke did was get rid of Moore as I recall.
Tampa gave him a 2 year deal. The NHL is an old boys club and always has been so I would not doubt it if he is partially black balled
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have said that for years – he must wear out his welcome somehow because he is a good player
Ah never took that to consideration. Either way, he does manage to get a deal and produce up to par.
Oh well.
Journeyman player. Lots like him.
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Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
In 77 games with Tampa and San Jose, Moore has 4 goals and 24 points while posting a -18 rating in an average 15:30 of ice time.
That kind of production is okay if you are a 20-24 year old developing forward.
But Dominic Moore is a 31 year old. He had a career high 18 goals last season with Tampa, but hadn’t topped 13 goals in his 5 seasons before that.
Given the amount that he has been traded (5 mid-season trades) and the fact that no team keeps him around for more than one season, I suspect he might very well be the type of guy that DOES rock the boat in the dressing room.
I would like him back to center the 4th one next season. Although I’d be comfortable with someone else if he wants more than say 1.25 for two years.
Man what a dorky picture of Gorges!
“I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”
Yeah, but Price looks hand-some
I hear he’s very handy.
“I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”
blocking banana?
“May you live in interesting times.”
I think he’s blocking a shot from high in the slot. REALLY high in the slot.
I hear G-Love has a concussion too.
If Molson tried to get BriseBois to bolt the Lightning, would he be accused of tampa-ring?
Would that be at all similar to what would happen if Loiselle leaves the leafs?
Picking up a Leaf exec? I wouldn’t call that tampering. Mercy hire?
Leafing your senses?
If he had half a Brian he wouldn’t Leaf until next fall
Ooh Aah Habs on the war path
“Pirating” is copacetic with Tampa’s football team, so why not with the “Lightning?”
“May you live in interesting times.”
I really hope Gorges (among other Habs) gets an invitation to play at the World Championships in Finland/Sweden next month. He really deserves to and it would be a mistake to overlook him only because he is useless on the PP.
Hopefully the invitiation is worded a little differently to Josh.
Probably
What I mean is that players like him too often get overlooked. A team doesn´t need 6 dman that can shoot and play on the PP. He is pretty good 5-5 and probably even better shorthanded.
I knew what you meant, but the way you described his PP abilities wasn’t all that flattering is all.
Incredible stat… Crosby has just as many assists as Ovechkin does this year. In 50 less games.
That is pretty amazing. Granted Ovie has been scoring at a much better pace the last few weeks.
Ya he’s been playing much better. I just chuckle at that stat because people tried to claim that he was scoring less goals last year and this season because he was passing a lot more and setting up more plays.
a tampa regulation win means the habs cannot finish higher than 28th….too many expansion team type forwards on the habs roster…
I’m firmly in the Pat Brisson for GM camp – solely for what he could bring to the team in players. We need Cid the Kid. Could use Malkin as well…of course, Brisson being GM doesn’t guarantee this happening, but improves the odds.
As for Leaf cast-offs – just say NO.
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He be the only one who could handle Roy as a coach
Check out Komisarek!
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/jordan-leopold-chaotic-controversial-goal-saved-buffalo-sabres-024954253.html
The most surprising thing about that video is that Komisarek wears the ‘A’.
Hasn’t he been a healthy scratch?
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regularly scratched under wilson. I don’t think he has with the new coach yet though but they are also trying to tank so
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I believe he has been a scratch at least once under Carlyle. Burke assigned those letters, and gave an A to Komisarek to try and justify his existence on team. Burke knows he effed up signing Komi and giving him a no trade and no movement clause. So he has been trying to sell all year how good Komi is in the room. Remind us of a similar situtation here in Montreal about an overpaid veteran being good in the room?
Though not a good player Komi was always regatrded as a good leader even in Montreal.
You recall he was behaind the bench for the Habs when he was injured and the buzz at the time was that he was future captain material.
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He was in decline here well before Luchicken punked him out. He was never ever suggested as captain material by anyone anywhere ever, what a joke. A soft underachiever who tailed off very early in a mediocre career.
‘Twas a thing of beauty…
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What a D man he is. Should play for the Beaners.
Come on boys. Only three more regulation losses and the prize is yours.
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Boone, Florida lost to Winnipeg, Washington was idle…
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Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.
It was just a pipe dream Boone had.
Richard R
The 1st person on the GM list should be Dale Tallon. Proven winner everywhere he goes. Et francais je pense.
Except that he is employed.
No eternal reward will forgive us for wasting the dawn.
If he was available then I would think there would be no contest. He has the best ‘active’ credentials.
out of 79 games i believe 24 regulation wins….right now we have 5-6 quality forwards on the roster but watching other games the majority of teams have a way better forward roster…
Not to mention way better defence and goaltending.
No eternal reward will forgive us for wasting the dawn.
The leafs team is infinitely better than before burke came in, he didnt do a terrible job with what he ha to work with.
Poor defense plus poor goaltending. Cup contending teams need at least one of those. He’s failed in building a solid base to build around.
I disagree. They have no hope. None whatsoever.
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LOL
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Oh Yeah…go get that leafs guy…that’ll help….
Hey, he has a French name so at least that’ll keep all the language activists in Montreal happy … Who cares about performance anyway!?
Not your girlfriend by the sound of your comments.
Post of the day…early, I know, but you set the bar high for the rest of us now.
***Subbang Baby!!!***
It was inspiring to say the least.
Everyone around here whines like babies about every bleeping thing Habs management does. Savard and Molson are going to talk to many candidates, not just one or two.
Cal, I felt that way yesterday. People around me just called me crabby. I feel better today. This to shall pass. Cheers.
New around here, Cal?
Not really.
Who said it?
My fav was some fan on TSN said yesterday that if Milbury was starting to hand out apologies that he might want to start with the Islanders fan base….lol
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Definitely agree, the potential is there.
However, will he want to take a big paycut to come work as a GM? Who knows…
I’m guessing the first question at the interviews is likely: We have already chosen Patrick Roy as Coach, would you be OK with rubber stamping that?
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This morning’s Globe and Mail – Bruce Dowbiggin’s column “Usual Suspects”
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The owners of the ‘Pioneer’ are coming across as pretty trashy.
They booted Bernie out (the manager of ‘Clyde’s') because they wanted too much money for the place, then they decided to go back in time to the Bad Old Days when the only bands that played there were crappy cover bands, and the main clientele was the Hell’s Angels.
Next thing, the owners are denied a liquor license.
Then, they book a band playing a tribute to a murdered gang-member, get told off by the police, and then ban hip-hop and try to blame it on everyone else so that they look innocent, and so that they can pretend that it’s someone else’s decision.
What lowlifes.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
I thought KRS-One’s “Stop The Violence in Hip Hop” campaign had been successful. Just the other day I was thinking how that was a non-issue now, that rap was all about the Cee Lo Greens and the Nellys, just commercial music now.
I miss the good old days of Ice Cube and Public Enemy and Tupac and Westside Connection. That was good rap. Says this white boy poseur.
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