The Islanders? Really??

Three blown leads, but a precious point.

A point slips away

Quotes from the room

Quick Hits and About last night …

Red Fisher on the no-quit Islanders

Dave Stubbs on the brawls in Boston

• Hickey on fighting

• Stubbs on backup goalie Joel Martin

Arpon Basu decodes Jacques Martin

Pierre Durocher on David Desharnais

816 Comments

  1. avatar_58 says:

    That’s a shame. He was having an awesome year and this hurts his chances for next year

  2. 24 Cups says:

    Tommy – We don’t get any extra cap space.  Darche makes the league minimum and whoever replaces him will eat up that salary.  If you replace Darche with White, the salaries cancel each other out.

  3. TommyB says:

    That’s gotta be a real kick in the nuts to J Martin, if true.  And if it is true, it does a couple of things.  It makes a deal almost an absolute necessity now, but unfortunately puts us into a weaker position than we already were in, for making such a trade.  Every GM understands how desperate PG is going to become.  But it also puts us in a position to have more cap space as the deadline approaches.  So it gives a bit more flexibility there.  Maybe a rental player to help weather the storm for the remainder of the year.  I’d maybe rather go that route, take some salary off someone else’s roster, and hold on to our prospects if possible.  No disrespect to Darche, and I’d rather he be playing.  But this might be a bad news/good news situation.  It’s not like we would be losing a goal scorer or stud Dman for the rest of the season.  There should be at least a couple of Darche clones in Hamilton to fill that void.  The extra cap space might give us the breathing room to make a deal that can really improve our chances down the stretch.

  4. HabsFansince49 says:

    Why is it that every team we play have hard-hitting giants on their offensive lines?

    I don’t pretend to be an expert; just a die-hard Habs fan passing my opinion

  5. savethepuck says:

    Source?  What is his injury, I only heard lower body?

  6. savethepuck says:

    Source?  What is his injury, I only heard lower body?

  7. Habs fan in Sens land says:

    While watching the last couple of games, something came to my mind. Most of us on this site would agree, Eller has shown us some flashes, but really needs to contribute more offensively (not to mention, most of our team needs to contribute more). However, during the few games that JM played Eller in his natural center position, he looked much more comfortable.

    While Desharnais has been playing good hockey and contributing as much, if not more, than I expected in his current role, it’s evident his size can be an issue for him while trying to battle in front, or behind, either net. As a center, there’s more defensive responsibility, and often times, centers will be amongst the biggest and most physical players. Most of the succesful smaller players (St-Louis, Fleury to name a couple) have historically (at least, to my recollection) been wingers.

    Why doesn’t JM try to play both on the same line, with Eller playing center. By doing so, Eller will be more comfortable and we will truly see what he is capable of. Also, being much bigger than Desharnais, Eller may be more useful around the net and battling on either, the offensive or even defensive end. As for Desharnais, he seems to be pretty a gifted playmaker, with a decent shot and good hands for tips. I’ve been mulling this over for a few days, and truly beleive this may benefit Eller, who I personally would like to see succeed in this organization, and may even help out Desharnais, is he also seems to be responsible defensively, albeit sometimes challenged in his current role by his size. By him moving to the wing, it seems that he may have more success defensively, not that I’m complaining about the defence I’ve seen from him, by having to do less grinding behind or in front of the net, while opposing players are attempting to screen our goalies…. Thoughts?

  8. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Kind’ve like how Halak’s crap play and Price’s great play has proven you wrong right?

  9. Rudy says:

    What play did he get hurt on? I don’t remember it, was it the brawl at the end?

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  10. krob1000 says:

    Pretty well exactly as I suggested only a few posts below. (perhaops you didn;t reaad the novel for lack of time or because I don;t check my posts gramatically most of the time)….Any teachers on the site will probably site you for plagiarism lol….however, it is often forgiven when you plagiarize an idiot like myself.

  11. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Because thats the template teams are using to build on. Big forwards with some skill and third and fourth lines that can give the other teams first line nightmares. You need tough players in the playoffs because it gets really physical, no fighting but lots of hitting, and smaller players wear down after three rounds of smashmouth hockey.

  12. habs03 says:

    Excalty, funny thing is we add salary, Darche makes 500k and White’s cap hit is 850K.

  13. Habs fan in Sens land says:

    Actually, Krob, I hadn’t even had a chance to read any of the articles or posts… I just kinda wanted to get that off my chest since I’ve been getting really frustrated watching these last few games. Either way, I guess I like the way you think.

  14. Mattyleg says:

    I liked White’s work ethic last night.

    He won most of the battles along the boards he went into.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  15. krob1000 says:

    I think the intent was to have a dman who deters guys from going to the ent during the play nd after whsitles, our guys get swatted around after every whistle, they are tentative to stand in front of other nets…our net is a drop in centre for opposing forwards…we have nobody who deters guys from going there..Gill is big, Picard is big, Hammer is big but none of them strike any fear into anyone…even Komsiarek as bad as he was between whistles was fantastic after them….he gave our keeper far more space…

  16. OverseasFan says:

    You’re right, Mike D. Those Old Montreal cobblestones are brutal when frozen.

    Ice Storm — Tell your gf not to wear heels there! I did that once. Almost broke my ankles.

    Listen to Mike D. Take her shopping / museums / Underground city. Then she’ll love Montreal and you can come back in the summer for all the Old Montreal / cafe-hopping stuff!

     

     

    Go Habs Go!

  17. PrimeTime says:

    which imo size isn’t all that matters (no joke). Size is no good without skill.

  18. ed lopaz says:

    He could be. But he sure plays small.

  19. forskis says:

    Actually, it has a lot to do with what the Rangers did with the cap space…the minute Gaborik was signed, these boards exploded with “Gainey let the Rangers sign Gaborik” complaints so those two players are linked…the Habs made the playoffs with a “crappy” Gomez and the Rangers did not with a 40-goal Gaborik…THAT’S a fact as well.

    Besides, one bad season out of the 4 or 5 seasons left on the contract does not make the previous season and the forthcoming seasons automatically bad….so in the freaky, freaky, freaky occurrence that the Habs win the Cup in the last three years of Gomez’s deal, would that still make the trade one of the worst in Habs history and Gainey an idiot because of a bad season #2?

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  20. ManApart says:

    Are you serious? Of course it makes him an idiot. Especially because most of us “fans” knew exactly how dumb a trade it was the day it happened. If Gainey couldn’t forsee the problems Gomez’s contract would cause and how his play had very much been deteriorating, and basically how dumb of a move it would be to trade McDonagh away for Gomez after all that, IS AN IDIOT

  21. fbkj says:

    again, dont care for fruity divers, maybe you do, who am i to judge

  22. patience is a virtue says:

    Disagree Ed.  This site has the most reactionary and negative posters of any anglo Habs site going, and the ire is often directed at the coaching and management.

  23. 123456 says:

    so we needed a big solid tough dman last summer? with what money? trade markov to make room?

    there has only been 1 bad GM signing made in the past 2 years and it was of course gomez – but even at the time most thought he was somewhat overpaid but would still produce average numbers

  24. HABZ24 says:

    omg losing to isles in a shootout, get real. loves aulds mask very classy.dryden mask with hologram dryden faces in it.not like prices retarded mask with an ugly brown horse on cdns colors. with trade deadline of the 22nd, we need to move on it now before what we needs gone. koz sr has got to go this time.floater extraordinaire he is. desharnes speedy but come on hes gotta be five one with skates on,pyatt or white can get thrown in on a deal.  we need size and tuffness with some scoring ability.sandpaper type players. well never get past boston or philly if we dont size up quick.

  25. Mattyleg says:

    Once again. Just like Rivet for Gorges.

    What a dunce.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  26. dasbooth says:

    Has everyone seen the backlash over Kovalchuk’s OT winner last night? He dared pull the same celbration move that PK did when the Habs beat Calgary! Mike RIchards is fuming that Kovalchuk would dare show that level of emotion. The crack squad at TSN is calling him a show boat, and apprently the French media claims no one in the Jersey dressing room wants anything to do with him because he celebrated an OT goal.

    “Shutouts are really more of a team stat” – Carey Price

  27. observer says:

    yeah right! and while ribeiro and modano were on the team at the same time – ribeiro scored over 60 points more than modano did for the stars

  28. fbkj says:

    of course im exaggerating, being said, to this day, dont care that is one trade i dont lose ANY sleep over

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNw8ZZT8tOU

  29. habs03 says:

    use that lineup and loss by 10?

  30. Hoegarden says:

    Big is in you say;

     

    A.Henry 6-6, 230

    J.Bonneau 6-3, 232

    A.Conboy 6-4, 208

    B.Nash 6-3, 210

    JT Wyman 6-2, 203

    I Schultz 6-2, 205

    A.Engqvist 6-4, 197

    A.Avtsin 6-2, 200

     

    There’s your lines 3 and 4 and a pair of D for the next Boston game. Give the boys a taste of the big leagues. Let them loose.

    Sit our seniors; Hammer, Spacek,Gill as well as Gomez, AK, Eller and 2 more non-producing F.

     

  31. HugeHabFan says:

    I cannot see a doctor disclosing patient information to a random person. Does not make sense.

  32. observer says:

    re: PG is looking at all available options that does not mortgage the future  —– since when did these 2  ever care about protecting te future as they have traded away so many #1s,#2s and #3s that are the reeason so few players have been developed here on this team and the past couple of years teams?

  33. ManApart says:

    Yes absolutely. I was screaming for that last summer and was heavily critical of PG, after seeing what happened in the Flyer series, I knew we couldn’t compete with that type of team. PG went out and got Eller and Halpern and that’s it. And people wonder why I always talk about management’s incompetence.

  34. krob1000 says:

    Gaborik is on pace for about 70 poitns and 30 plus goals over a full season….he missed time again due to injury which always means some games are going to be needed to get back into the timing,etc.  He is fine….he is pure offense and Torts is a d first guy so they butt heads….who doesn’t butt heads with Torts? Gabby is doing fine…he can break out in a week and all of the sudden be ahead of ppg and back on pace for the 40 he should be good for.  He has 10pts in his last 9 and will get better if he stays healthy.  I think if you asked Sather if he would rather have had Gomez for the last two seasons or Gaborik/MCdonaugh he’ll take Gabby 100 times out of 100 IMO. Gaborik is not known as someone who is good on shootouts….where was Tavares last night on the shootout? does that mean they don’t want him or he sucks?

    http://www.nhlshootouts.com/CareerShootersLowestShootingPct.htm gaborik is 5th lowest career on shootouts (2 of 19) Pleks is 6 th and Cammi 37th worst career. Penner sucks too

  35. fbkj says:

    agreed dallas gave us too much

    anybody complaining about that trade is a moron, ribeiro was a disgrace to the jersey

  36. observer says:

    halaks team in the better west. habs would not even have made last years west playoffs.

  37. observer says:

    you better believe it still was a stupid trade by gainey/gauthier! for the hottest goalie in the league these brains got nothing but a player from denmark who never was or will become a top scorer.

  38. Mark C says:

    Fair point, I agree the SJS did fine with that trade.

  39. Hobie Hansen says:

    Now that the dust has settled from that crazy game in Boston the other night, who cares about last night’s game, I think the emotions have cooled a little and everyone is thinking a little more clearly. I listened to the radio shows, TV commentators and read all the comments and articles on this site after the brawl fest in Boston. The majority of people, including myself believed that Montreal desperately needed to muscle up and that Gauthier best get to work in order to address that issue.

    Looking at it today, we’ve got to work with what we’ve got at the moment. There’s not going to be a complete overhaul of the team before the playoffs. Our most pressing need is another solid defenseman, and hopefully we can acquire one at the deadline.

    In regards to the toughness concerns, what is really missing from this team is a genuine 3rd line. Our bottom two lines are a bunch of top six failures or top six long shots. Most teams do have a couple players on those lines that maybe one day will become a top six forward but also have a solid checking line with either some good penalty killers, agitators or an enforcer or two. Montreal does not have that.

    We’re missing that line that can pin the opposing team’s best line in their own end for a complete shift and frustrate the heck out of them. I haven’t seen a game in a dog’s age where a Habs checking line has received a standing ovation for banging around the other team in their end, resulting in an offensive faceoff for our top line.

    In regards to adding fighters, Laraque was brutal, but I really don’t remember Lucic poking our goaltenders or running at our star players when he was around. We need a heavyweight that can keep things in order and so there’s one big fight at center ice instead of eight of our players getting beat down all night.

    It’s clearly obvious the officials aren’t going to protect our team and send us on the PP all night.


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