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The Canadiens web site has a nice video feature on Lars Eller.
We at HIO are big fans of the kid … and it’s not every day you get to hear Danish songs on a video. (Photo by Getty Images)

Training camp begins in Brossard on Sept. 16 (rookies on Sept. 12) and ends in Collingwood, Ont., on Oct. 5

Carey Price tops Dobber Hockey’s Fantasy rankings

Engels on Engqvist

• Red says Dany Heatley was the biggest off-season acquisition. We’d say Brad Richards … if the LLSJ had asked.

Ranking the lower-tier forwards

• EotP on Nathan Beaulieu

• THN likes Buffalo for fifth place

Rating the GMs (Pierre Gauthier 21st)

• Yvon Pedneault on Quebec hockey players

Flames trade Langkow

Today’s video:

291 Comments

  1. HabinBurlington says:

    An excellent article discussing the growing battle between US College Hockey and Canadian Junior Hockey in order to get and keep players in their programs.

    Interesting note about halfway through article, they mention Paul Kelly (now with US College Hockey) talking about how a certain player broke his college agreement to go play Junior hockey in Quebec because they were giving him $100,000. Is that Leblanc?

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2011-08-30/nhl-colleges-wage-war-with-canadian-junior-hockey-ohl-whl-qmjhl

    • I’m not sure if Leblanc was getting paid anywhere near that, but he left college for junior to make team Canada.

      http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Andrew, what other significant player left college last summer to play in the Q. I find this interesting for many reasons, but of all the examples for him to give why the Habs prospect, if indeed it was Louis.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      The NCAA can be pretty underhanded about ‘perks’ for their players. This is just them being mad that the CHL is better at getting the top prospects than they are.

      Granted, the hockey programs probably don’t get the same support that the big-time Basketball, Football programs get down there but we shouldn’t pretend they don’t do their best to entice recruits.

      NCAA is killed by their refusal to qualify anyone who plays major junior for college hockey, insisting that the Major Junior contracts are ‘pro deals’.

      - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Yeah, NCAA hockey is caught in the backwash of the rules instituted decades earlier to protect NCAA turf against pro and semi-pro football, baseball and basketball. The fact that Major Junior players are paid a stipend makes them effectively semi-pro and voids their NCAA eligibility. I don’t know what Tier II junior players get, but obviously that is okay for players in those leagues maintain their NCAA eligibility.

        The hockey programs are a drop in the bucket when it comes to revenue for the NCAA, so they will never have a front seat when it comes to making these decisions. Football and basketball are massively more important, and they are dealing with their own issues right now. Look for those two sports to drive the NCAA in whatever direction it chooses to go (regional limits, or payments to players) to deal with the various scandals erupting right now.

        Amusing recap of current college football scandals, in the form of a prayer:

        “…My beloved sport smells like a cesspool.

        Lord, maybe it is one. But it’s my favorite cesspool. And after months of hand-wringing and moralizing, I only want to watch students from one school ram into students from another school at blistering speed while 85,000 people scream.”

        http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/08/30/fans-prayers/index.html?sct=cf_t12_a1

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        For my training camp surprise, I want the second coming of Mike McPhee. And maybe Kent Carlson.

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      It’s interesting to see NCAA hockey coaches moaning that the CHL teams are paying players to attend there, while it’s the unavowed standard operating procedure in NCAA football and basketball.

      Ultimately, I think the NCAA route would be best for any player except the ‘can’t miss’ prospects. Even with the CHL’s newish emphasis on education, the NCAA route provides with a degree in your pocket after four years, more time to develop your skills, a broader-horizon environment than riding on a bus with 20 other punks just like you, and a playing environment where fighting is prohibited. If I’m a parent helping my kid choose, it’s an easy decision to send him to a US college.

      For those who have gone to college, even disregarding the educational benefit and career potential it offers, would you want to deprive your child of that experience?

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      For my training camp surprise, I want the second coming of Mike McPhee. And maybe Kent Carlson.

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Andrew, will we see you at all the events?? I need proper head counts for summit reservations.

  2. Propwash says:

    Ryder dropped the cup, well it isn’t really his fault actually, shoddy table and gravity took over.

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Stanley+tumbleth+over+John/5330344/story.html

  3. HabinBurlington says:

    Did Philadelphia overpay for Van Riemsdyk? I think he is a really good young player with size.

    Edmonton Journal seems to think Philly may have made a mistake.
    http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2011/08/30/nhl-gms-grit-their-teeth-over-van-riemsdyk-contract/

  4. HabFab says:

    Cammy interview with Larionov’s daughter at the Biosteel camp. He looks tired…new daddy!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHbfquEUZ_s&feature=related

  5. HabFab says:

    ►No preseason jitters here: Drummondville Voltigeurs’ forward and Montreal Canadiens’ prospect Olivier Archambault wasted little time making an impact for his new Q team on Saturday night, scoring the shootout winner and spoiling the debut of the Blainville-Boisbriand Armada, formerly the Montreal Juniors, in their new home at the Centre d’Excellence Sports Rousseau. Archambault also had an assist on the goal that eventually forced overtime between the two clubs and now has four points in three preseason games. The Voltigeurs’ next game is Thursday, September 1st as they host the Shawinigan Cataractes at 7 p.m. at the Centre Marcel Dionne, whereas the QMJHL 2011-12 season officially launches Thursday, September 8th; All Habs News

  6. SeriousFan09 says:

    Down Goes Brown checks in with the off-season winners and losers

    http://www.downgoesbrown.com/2011/08/offseason-winners-and-losers.html#more

    “Winner: Montreal Canadiens – Signed Erik Cole as a free agent, making them the only team on Hockey Night in Canada to be ensured of having a player whose last name Bob Cole will pronounce correctly. ”

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
    SF09 on Twitter

    • HabFab says:

      My favorite!
      Winner: Ottawa Senators – Free agent Zenon Kenopka signed a $700,000 deal and could provide excellent value while competing for the second line center role, which is great news for Senator fans as long as they don’t think too hard about what it says about the rest of the roster.

  7. Ian Cobb says:

    5TH ANNUAL 2011 HAB FAN SUMMIT NOV. 18,19 & 20.

    Most of you should have your game tickets and your Hall of Fame tickets by now!

    Please give me people numbers to attend each event for exact reservations. E-mail me or phone if you have not already. Thanks

    About 130 of us this year! Will travel from all over the planet to Montreal. Some for the first time seeing their team play live.

    This year we are coming from USA, France, Hong Kong, the Maritime Provinces, , B.C , Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario and of course La Belle Province.

    We are staying at the Novotel hotel, discount rates at 866-861-6112 and we will all meet and greet at Hurley’s pub Friday eve. Some of us will be having supper there, and name tags will be given.

    Everyone is welcome to join us. Ware you team colours! and enjoy the evening.

    Saturday morning, breakfast is at Chez Cora’s at 8:30am. You can order a la cart and everyone gets 15% discount off your bill.

    We walk over to the Bell Center for the Hall of Fame Tour at 10:30am

    After the tour there will be a professional presentation put on by former concussed hockey players. Kerry Goulet, Keith Primeau and other players who are Involved in educating the effects of concussion, depression and neurology rehabilitation.
    (location is pending on permission to use the Bell Center press room)

    At 3pm the Children’s Foundation charity raffle at the Baton Rouge rest. bring one item each if possible, so everyone gets a gift to go home with. Our pre game dinner. Then we walk across the street to the game.

    After the game the 2nd floor of Hurley’s pub is reserved for us again, to celibate the win. Anyone may join us, just identify yourself as a HIO member.

    Please be generous with your charity raffle gifts and your purchase of raffle tickets. It is a way for the HIO community to give back to less fortunate kids.

    Enjoy talking hockey and meeting your wonderful HIO family.
    See ya there.
    Ian Cobb

    HIO Fan Summit Organizer (613-968-9807) if you need anything.

  8. Un Canadien errant says:

    As far as bRat Marchand goes, I predicted a Theo Fleury-Derek Sanderson-style career flameout earlier this summer, and I’ll stand by it based on the link below, which was posted earlier.

    While the story is obviously inaccurate or overblown, as I can’t imagine a security staff member being made to apologize to the assailant who broke his jaw, it does continue to paint him as a troubled man with no impulse control and a reliance on intoxicants. Boston is not the best place for him to be, as all his antics are cheered rather than seen as red flags. I wonder if Mr. Chiarelli has some of the same concerns.

    http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2011/6/23/2239383/bruins-brad-marchand-foxwoods
    ———————————
    For my training camp surprise, I want the second coming of Mike McPhee. And maybe Kent Carlson.

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Mark C says:

      The widespread rumor is that Boston brass told Marchand to leave Boston and go home, in hopes of getting him to chill out.

      • D Mex says:

        I’m conflicted on the mindset of an organization that would draft this kind of individual, and Boston was not the first. Success in the Q, WJC gold medal team member … yadda yadda. He’s a delusional, undisciplined runt in my book. Always will be.

        Fortunate for him that hockey has worked out – so far – because he sure as hell doesn’t have much else going for him.

        This is the same moron who, reportedly, refused to sign an autograph for a kid wearing a Habs logo, and as these stories continue to leak out, I envision parents and a former minor hockey association (among others) squirming at what they have produced and developed. Or maybe not …

        ALWAYS Habs -
        D Mex

        • HabFab says:

          My Marchand story takes place in Halifax the summer between his Junior career and turning pro. Was at a friends house, their son gets a phone call to await a pick up from his friends ( Brad Marchand spotted at local pub). With all the excitement, I asked ” Are you a fan?”. His response was “Hell no! We are going to beat the crap out of the arrogant little $#*t!! ”
          Not feeling the love here…

  9. Castor says:

    I’m really pulling for Hamlet this year. (Yeah, I think we should all start calling Eller Hamlet…or at least quoting some when he scores)

    Frailty thy name is woman Eller scores!

  10. Marc10 says:

    Stevie Y as top GM… Meh. Stole Boucher after he talked to Babcock and then Boucher took all of Hamilton with him + Moore + MAB + Dan Ellis. And then he had Vinny, Stamkos and St Louis to rely on…

    Roloson worked out well for him though… But there’s no way his one season compares to the job Kenny Holland has done since the early 90s. And Boston Pete didn’t fare too badly when he fleeced Brian Burke.

    Good season for Stevie Y, but let’s be honest, he’s not the best yet. No even close.

    • Mark C says:

      “Steve Yzerman’s low-cost moves paid off for Tampa Bay last year – names like Moore, Bergenheim, Thompson, Jones, Downie, Lundin, Jones, and Purcell might not have been headliner signings, but Yzerman brought cheap and effective depth to a team loaded with stars and it paid off.”

      The real issue is highlighted in this quote. Eight different players mentioned, however Stevie Y only acquired three of those players (Moore, Randy Jones, and Bergenheim), only Moore is still with the team today.

      What’s the point of rating GM’s if you judge them in part on the actions of the prior GM(s)?

  11. redleader says:

    The song is Swedish. Bass Hunter – Boten Anna

  12. HardHabits says:

    Don’t forget what Glenn Healey says about Danish, “You buy that at a coffee shop!”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NW2CdsTNX4

  13. OneTimer says:

    I had a dream last night that I was Max Pacioretty, that I scored three goals in the home opener, and that Gomez made the assist on all of them!! That’d be nice huh?

  14. HabinBurlington says:

    So at the time of the Franson/Lombardi trade to Toronto, the Nashville officials were talking that Lombardi probably wouldn’t play this year or at least not till new year. Now Burke is talking about Lombardi being cleared, or almost cleared. Don’t know seems to me the Leafs may be rushing this kid back.
    http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/nhl/mapleleafs/article/1046972–leafs-lombardi-symptom-free

  15. JD_ says:

    I dunno.

    Like the Bell Centre horn, the Habs logo just isn’t intimidatin’ enough. The fans have to quit livin’ in the past, man. Time for an update. Somethin’ that’ll strike the fear of some imaginary deity into the hearts of the competition.

    I’m suggestin’ some shark teeth in the C, you know, to make it look like the gapin’ maw of some vicious beast.

    As for the H? Time to get rid of it, it’s just takin’ up space. And it hardly menaces. I’m suggestin’ an X. A dangerous lookin’ X, complete with lickin’ flames.

    A new, nasty, in-yer-face horn. A new, dangerous logo.

    All intimidation, all the time.

    Just thinkin’ outside the box.

  16. Bripro says:

    I haven’t read the comments yet, so forgive me if I’m repeating anything previously mentioned, but I’m in disagreement with some of the experts out there today.
    Let’s start with Red’s take on Danny Heatly.
    Has anyone seen a player to choke so often. He was very good his first year in Ottawa, but I find he’s struggled since. And any player who holds out for any reason and refuses to show up for team practice / training doesn’t have the heart.
    Sorry, buy my money would go to Brad Richards hands down. He shows up every game. Heatly might have the occasional knack for finding the net, but Richards has sweet hands and the knack for finding the guy open.
    As for the Hockey News ratings….does anyone think that, given the departure of Richards and Carter, even with a better goaltender, that the Flyers will come anywhere close to 4th? I think they might even be on the outside looking in.
    And putting the Habs in 8th I find is also off the mark.
    Everyone analyzing the team says we have no superstars.
    In the last two playoff years, Cammie led in scoring. I realize it’s not the regular season, but he, Pleks and Gionta seem to be dismissed because they’re size isn’t overbearing.
    I’ll take our team’s speed and heart over Philly or the Bruins this year.
    They might be right about the Sabres though…

  17. Neutral says:

    what’s so great about Marchand, He’s a 3rd liner looking for a bag of money and some GM will be stupid enough to give it to him. we have 3rd liners as good as marchand, Kostitsyn had a better year than marchand last year, sure he was on the stanley cup team big deal that’s a team thing, he’s a cheap shot artist and a mouth piece.

  18. HabinBurlington says:

    Okay just watched the video on CBC of Ryder setting the Cup on a table and it falliing. He didn’t even care. Put quite a dent in it as well.

    The two RCMP officers standing behind it didn’t do much to protect it, LOL.

    • kempie says:

      I thought it looked like that table leg had been tampered with. Halifaxhab, Halgonian-Hab, Adam76, I’m looking at you guys. Nice work.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      The two police officers standing behind are clearly not RCMP, they have a completely different uniform.

      Not a cheerleader for the RC’s, they’ve taken quite a few well-deserved lumps in the last few years, but this one isn’t on them. Newfies can confirm this, but I suspect the constables are Royal Newfoundland Constabulary.

      ———————————
      For my training camp surprise, I want the second coming of Mike McPhee. And maybe Kent Carlson.

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • LA Loyalist says:

      What were they going to do? Shoot it?

      Here in LA, the cops would have shot Ryder and the Cup, and asked questions later. We just had 6 cops kick an unarmed homeless guy to death, just for laughs. And for everything else, there’s MasterCard(tm)

    • Mothstoflame says:

      If everyone remembers some other cup horror stories….

      A team car that had the Cup in tow got a flat tire along the way. On the side of the road, a few players worked to replace the busted wheel. In order to do so, they decided relieve the car of some weight by taking the Cup out of the trunk.

      With the tire replaced, the players hit the road again. Only once they arrived in Montreal did they realize they had inadvertently left the Stanley Cup sitting on the side of the road.

      Thankfully, the players found what they had left behind in the snow, somewhere between Montreal and Ottawa.

      Let Ryds have his day with the cup in peace my son. Thomas and Ryder, The only 2 people im happy to see with it.

  19. HabinBurlington says:

    @Jwhogeveen, you asked earlier about the Habs in Collingwood. Here is some information for you on the arena and where they are staying.
    http://www.bayshorebroadcasting.ca/news_item.php?NewsID=38150

  20. The Dude says:

    Had nothing to do with the riots ! Vancouver’s east end continues to be the 2nd largest infection source “in the whole wide world and 1st is Uganda” of H.I.V. as well as the most expensive Canadian city too live in”maybe a connection with poverty ,eh?” As well ,the riots were a outcome of the monetary frustrations imposed on the 17 to 26 year old population that does all the hard jobs around there but can’t make their expenses”food,rent ,car,medical,education and lifestyle criteria” and thus were labeled “Anarchists” by the remaining dwindling population of middle and upper classes left standing in Vancouver. But hey that’s North America for you where putting oneself in someone else’s shoes and giving a shite about each other is a JOKE!If you can’t afford to live in a place then what’s so special about it?And that my friend is why Vancouver is falling in it’s ranking.

    • Gerry H says:

      - “Vancouver’s east end continues to be the 2nd largest infection source “in the whole wide world and 1st is Uganda” of H.I.V.”

      BS. South Africa and Tibet have much higher rates of HIV, among many other in sub-Saharan Africa and SE Asia.

      - As well ,the riots were a outcome of the monetary frustrations imposed on the 17 to 26 year old population that does all the hard jobs around there but can’t make their expenses”food,rent ,car,medical,education and lifestyle criteria” and thus were labeled “Anarchists” by the remaining dwindling population of middle and upper classes left standing in Vancouver.

      Which explains why half of them were wearing $150 NHL jerseys and equally expensive trainers. The poor, downtrodden dears.

      - But hey that’s North America for you where putting oneself in someone else’s shoes and giving a shite about each other is a JOKE!If you can’t afford to live in a place then what’s so special about it?And that my friend is why Vancouver is falling in it’s ranking.

      Which, of course, is why it was edged out in the rankings by a city with a housing market that is every bit as overheated (Melbourne, Aus).

  21. Gerry H says:

    Re-posted from further down the thread:

    I’m pretty much aligned with Hobie’s assessment of the Habs prospects this year, though I’m less concerned about Price or MaxPac cranking it up a notch (especially in Price’s case). I think the guys who could take this team to the next level by playing to their potential are Gomez and Cammalleri. If those two step up, Markov and Gorges play to their pre-injury standard and none of the other top 6 fall into a funk, I think this team has a legit shot at the whole enchillada.

    I’ve never been one to get starry-eyed about the Habs chances, at least not in the last two decades. That said, I’m surprised that most of the league’s prognosticators have a ho-hum view of this team’s potential. I really do think they are being under-rated.

    Someone else on this board mentioned that they need to score 30 more goals to be a legit contender, which I think is the key stat. With Gomez playing at least to the standard of his first season in Montreal and MaxPac picking up where he left off, that line alone could account for 20 of those goals. The other ten should be very doable with addition of Cole and the return of Markov (minus Wis and Hamrlik not withstanding). With full seasons from Markov and Gorges, and Spacek playing more realistic minutes, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the GAA go down a tick or two.

    That’s a lot of “ifs.” But that’s also true of every team in the league. That’s why they don’t award the Stanley Cup to the top team in TSN’s pre-season power rankings, I guess.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      As you say Gerry every team has lots of if’s. I think the biggest if we face is the health of Markov, and whether Gomez can pick up his game.

  22. HabFanSince72 says:

    Look what one little hockey riot can do.

    Vancouver has been the world’s most livable city since 2002, but this year it fell to third:

    1: Melbourne, Australia
    2: Vienna, Austria
    3: Vancouver, Canada
    4: Toronto, Canada
    5: Calgary, Canada
    6: Sydney, Australia
    7: Helsinki, Finland
    8: Perth, Australia
    9: Adelaide, Australia
    10: Auckland, New Zealand

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/08/30/melbourne-vancouver-liveable-cities_n_941811.html

    • shiram says:

      But this “However, the ratings were calculated before the Vancouver hockey riot this June ”

      If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        I realize that but it was the only way to make the story hockey related.

        I have no opinion on any of the links today.

        None.

        Calgary in 5th. No offence but there’s a pretty big indictment of the ranking methodology right there.

        • shiram says:

          Did not read the hockey news link.
          The bottom 6 piece had me a bit worried about Eller.

          If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

          • HabinBurlington says:

            It is just some blogger filling his webpage. Zero substance except what he thinks he saw. Frankly reading his opinion of Eller makes me realize he sees a complete different game than I saw.

            Eller was making huge strides by the end of the year.

            I place zero value on that blog’s reports.

          • shiram says:

            I’ll agree that Eller was picking it up, and improved alot at the end of the season, but I was kinda worried about him even before reading that piece.
            With our centers being Pleks/Gomez/Eller/DD and maybe White, that does not amount to alot of depth. I’m confident in Pleks, 60 points + and great 2 way play.
            Gomez, well I think he’ll improve from last season, but he could definately repeat or slip…
            Eller and DD are great, but have not proved themselves to be top line centers yet.
            It’s as I was saying this morning, potential is great, but it needs to be realized before it counts.
            If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Would be a good day for one of John Bellyfull’s long soliloquy’s.

    • I wonder what the criteria is. It’s clearly not affordability, because Vancouver is insanely expensive.

      http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

      • Jordio-oh says:

        Toronto isn’t cheap either.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Actually, I think it is. Remember people in those cities make more money, and unemployment is lower. The criteria AFAIK are jobs, safety, good schools, lack of pollution, good transit – things like that.

        I would grudgingly live in Vancouver, and Sidney is pretty great (it’s actually Vancouver with sunny weather). Wouldn’t choose any of these cities over New York, Berlin or Barcelona. Or Montreal for that matter.

      • Chris says:

        You want expensive, try Oslo or Stockholm or Cophenhagen. :)

        Of course, “expensive” is a relative term anyways. Salaries are often commensurate with the cost of living.

  23. HabinBurlington says:

    So it appears Lord Stanley had a rough trip to Newfoundland.
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/hockey/nhl/wires/08/30/2040.ap.hkn.stanley.cup.dent.0123/

    And the Kings are going back to Black ,Silver and White officially.
    http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/kings_change_official_team_colors/

    • shiram says:

      Slick jersey for the Kings.

      If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I don’t know, sure look like right out of a video game to me. But they are sure are milking the public with all the uniform changes they have had.

        • shiram says:

          It’s kinda based off their old style, and I liked that better than the purple ones.
          The piece on it notes that they changed it for the fans.

          If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

        • 24 Cups says:

          I think the new King crest looks like crap.

          Why can’t teams leave things as they are and realize that tradition wins out in the end?

          • Chuck says:

            A bad logo just means that they’ll be able to milk more money out of their fans when they change it yet again a few years down the road (see: Buffalo Sabres)

          • For hockey jerseys of teams the same age as the Kings, it seems to be the rule that they got it right in the 70′s and 80′s. Hockey is turning into a sport of blacks and blues. Vibrant colours just look better on the ice. The best Kings jersey they ever had was this one:

            http://www.icethetics.info/storage/blog/KingsRetroJersey.png

            http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

          • 24 Cups says:

            Andrew – Speaking about the “King”, Elvis always said leave them waiting for more. That’s why I feel NHL teams should stop changing their logos every few years just to make a fast buck. It’s also one of the things that has bugged me about the Argos (and now the Jays).

            Could you imagine, just for a second, what kind of shitstorm there would be if the Habs decided to “update and modernize” their historic logo? It would make Hurricane Irene look like a bird bath.

            BTW, San Jose is gearing up for a real run at the Cup. It’s not a question of whether Havlat is better than Heatley, but rather whether he is a better fit right now for the next year or two. His speed plus playing with great centres just might make the difference. Heatley is to San Jose what Semin is to the Caps. Therefore, it was time for a change. Minnesota, on the other hand, just need to make the playoffs. A ton of Heatley points ust might make that happen. It will all depend on his chemistry with Koivu. San Jose also saves 2.5M in cap space.

          • Bripro says:

            Take the Canuck’s first crest.
            You know, the hockey stick in the box (rink).
            That’s why teams change their logos and crests.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      The Kings logo is just dumb.

      LA

      as in Do Re Mi Fa Sol La

      or La Di Da.

      It will be the second dumbest jersey in the league as soon as the Jets come out with their sure to be pandering to Don Cherry uniforms. I’m betting on camouflage.

    • avatar_58 says:

      Why? The retro purple/gold looked unique. They should go with that instead

    • DearyLeary says:

      That’ll teach Ryder to be drinking Screech while he’s got the Cup.

    • Chrisadiens says:

      Makes me sick. This is Bettman’s new NHL. Lots of “hockey plays” there.

      Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

    • PrimeTime says:

      Nice find and well done by kevenfalcon11. Changes will be coming but concussions will never be eliminated. Certainly they need to be reduced with stricter penalties/ suspensions and changes to the armor worn as elbow “protection”.

  24. shiram says:

    Hamrlik trained with the CH. french only
    http://fr-ca.actualites.yahoo.com/lnh-canadien-un-intrus-sur-la-glace-180613986.html
    Darche comments how they just trained with him during the summer.
    Hamrlik not concerned with his january 18 return to the Bell Center.

    If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      The important part of this article for me is that Erik Cole and Alexei Yemelin are already in town skating with some of their new teammates.

      Mr. Cole, because it dampens the inclination of some, me included, to consider his decision to sign with the Canadiens as purely mercenary. He seems determined, by his interviews since July 1 and his actions, to do it right and not to just mail it in.

      Mr. Yemelin because I think he will be called upon to play an important role with the Canadiens this year, in the Donald Dufresne-Lyle Odelein mold, the stay-at-home defenceman with a mean streak who makes opposing forwards think twice about getting too close to our goalie. If he is to eat up a lot of icetime, things off the ice need to go smoothly, so for him to get to know his new teammates and to get acclimated is beneficial.

      Another though which occurred to me is that Mr. Hamrlik still insisting that he’s sorry to go and would have preferred to finish his career here is another indication that the organization is on the right track. Players wanting to be here is good news for us, both in terms of drafted players and future free agents.

      Quote from article below:

      “Brian Gionta, Hal Gill, Tomas Plekanec, Erik Cole, Darche, Lars Eller et Ryan White ont patiné en compagnie des jeunes Louis Leblanc, Peter Delmas et Dany Massé.

      « Tout le monde a hâte à la nouvelle saison, c’était décevant de perdre au premier tour des séries, a rappelé Darche. C’est toujours agréable de patiner ensemble et ça me permet de voir les nouveaux visages. »

      Le défenseur russe Alexei Emelin a également posé ses valises à Montréal et il s’est entraîné à plusieurs reprises avec ses futurs coéquipiers.”

      ———————————
      For my training camp surprise, I want the second coming of Mike McPhee. And maybe Kent Carlson.

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  25. HabinBurlington says:

    Ian got my tix! Thanks so much looking forward to the weekend.

  26. SeriousFan09 says:

    At risk of re-igniting what Andrew and I started during the initial days of the Havlat-Heatley trade, Heatley is an elite goal scorer who can not bury them in the playoffs. Cammalleri took two years of playoff games to top him in playoff goals. Gionta has outproduced him in the last two years and unlike the much-maligned AK, Heatley has never had a multi-goal playoff game. He participated in the chokefest of the San Jose bodies in the 2010 Olympics as well. He can score as much as he likes in the C-level competition of the Worlds, he does not bring it when it matters most at the NHL level. I have seen better from Havlat in a playoff setting.

  27. jwhogeveen says:

    I was wondering if anyone had info on the Habs training camp this year, more so about their time in Collingwood. I live close by and would love to head over there to watch. Can you? if so any idea what arena they will be using,

    Cheers

    • savethepuck says:

      I was under the understanding that their last camp away from Brossard ( like last year ) was closed to the public. Cuts already made, team bonding etc.., but I could be wrong.

      “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

  28. JD_ says:

    I’m no scoutin’ philosopher – I just play one on the Intraterweb – but often ponder the question: Do some minor hockey leagues fail to develop talent because some pro teams can’t be bothered to scout them, or do some pro teams not bother to scout some minor hockey leagues because those leagues are consistently failin’ to develop talent.

    If you have the answer to that really complicated question, please do forward it to Yvon Pedneault.

    If the Montreal Canadiens are expected to invest hard capital in supportin’ the development of home-grown talent, in particular in an environment where power politics have overshadowed competency, then the legendary club should fully expect to see transparent and adhered-to measures bein’ put into place that will ensure they have a reasonable expectation for a return on that investment.

    Otherwise, it’s just a social experiment.

    Enough with the vague, touchy-feely platitudes; they sound really good sittin’ around the conference table, but have no traction in the real world. It’s about hard cash, benchmarkin’, plannin’, execution, and accountability. The rest is tiresome fluff, so easy to type out with nary a need to grind into the details and minutiae, and a whole lot of yeah-buts and references to exceptions that prove the rule.

    As for Pedneault, after tossin’ a little ROC paranoia into his lame piece, he attempts to redeem his credibility by kinda pointin’ a shaky finger at Hockey-Quebec in his last, one-sentence paragraph.

    He should have started out that way, and delved into the hard decisions required to restore its credibility and status, rather than spend most of his time producin’ a shoppin’ list of excuses.

    Excuses are for losers.

    And, no, the rant’s not over. It’s just simmerin’.

    —–

    I’m a little bit more optimistic on Larry Eller’s prospects for the upcomin’ season than the author of that bottom-six piece. I don’t think he’s bein’ unfair but, rather, figure we’re not focused on the same considerations.

    Seems to me Larry was sub-optimal on two fronts last season: Underweight for his frame and still mentally fragile as a rookie. The latter develops as a function of time and experience, which is inescapable if he continues to play in the NHL, the former an issue he has directly addressed over the course of the off-season.

    Maybe it’s just a gut feel – founded on his hockey IQ and innate physical strength – but he’s the guy I figure will surprise to the upside this year.

    It’s not just anybody that would grab Briere’s stick in the faceoff circle, toss it away, and skate to the box without a penalty bein’ called.

    • shiram says:

      Eller’s response to Brière spearing Eller’s groin was awesome.
      Nicely showcased just how much of a douche Brière is.

      If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

    • savethepuck says:

      I didn’t read the article on the remaining forwards, after I clicked on the link and realized it was from the same idiot that wrote the “top 6 forwards” a couple of days ago. I scanned over it saw the C and closed the window. In defense of Lars, people need to consider where other NHLers of the same age are in their development. Where was Plex in his development at the same age? Along with others on here, I noticed the considerable improvement in Lars over the last part of the regular season and especially in the playoffs. He’s a keeper who I expect even greater things from as he matures.

      “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

    • PrimeTime says:

      Every team should promote the sport in their city. It is a responsibility of the organization to repay to what makes them successful. In MTL the natural result of doing so would help all young players no matter of race or culture. If the Separatists want the Canadiens to be market specific to young “french” players then we know what is their real agenda. It’s really a shame that so many still view the Habs as an Anglo organization and not for all Quebecers. Perhaps it’s time from Montreal to separate from Quebec!

  29. moester says:

    I think that Quebec writers have their heads in the sand when it comes to the development of youth talent in Quebec. Quebec is far behind when it comes to things like training programs diet and developing two way play. The difference in styles between players in junior A between Quebec the ROC and even the US is notable. Quebec authorities and media need to get over their outrage and perceived bias and get to the root of the issues. Which judging from the article I have read is not about to happen.

  30. savethepuck says:

    Good report on Beaulieu. Living in Saint John, having one of the Habs top prospects on our team will make it likely I’ll be watching more Dogs games this year. Even more than them being the reigning Memorial Cup Champs.

    “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

  31. habs_r_us says:

    flyers sign jvr for 6 years at 4.25 cap hit great deal for them at a very manageable salary

  32. shiram says:

    Scott Gomez is #1!!
    On capgeek’s buyout top 10.
    Well at least he is in good company, Luongo, Crosby, Kovlachuk..

    If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

    • sauster says:

      Hopefully this year will help in decreasing that ranking… I think we all hope he comes back to the player he used to be this year. Chances are he’ll have better surrounding cast and less pressure.
      I also think Eller is about to explode… I hope.

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  34. Sakus Evil Twin says:

    The GM rating article hurts my simple head.

    No answers, just opinions. Bite me. Och.

    • Cardiac says:

      So it’s not just me!

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      - Jerry Maguire

    • slychard says:

      I glanced at it so quickly before giving up I’m glad I’m not the only one.

      Although wide open and fixed to a point the eyes did not register…

    • Gerry H says:

      Don’t worry guys, the reason it’s straining your noggins is becauseit is complete bafflegab. Think about the following sentence:

      “The New Jersey Devils should be concerned. Prior to Ilya Kovalchuk, they were one of the most efficient teams in the league. Atlanta drops Kovalchuk and moves quite high in the rankings while New Jersey adds him and plummets to the bottom of the league.

      One deal makes HOF-bound Lamorello the worst GM in the NHL? Kovalchuk’s refusal to sign in Atlanta makes Dudley a genius??

  35. Hobie Hansen says:

    My feelings, or should i say, deep thoughts by Hobie Hansen…

    If the Habs are hit with the same amount of injuries as last year, some of their younger players take a step forward and others a step back, they’re fighting for a birth in the playoffs.

    The Habs stay relatively healthy, some younger players take a step forward and others take a step back, 8th to 4th spot.

    The Habs stay relatively healthy, Pacioretty, Subban, Eller, DD and Price take steps forward, chance to win the conference.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Your opening line reminded me of the SNL , Deep thoughts by Jack Handey, with the intro read by the great Canadian Comedian Phil Hartman. Here is a nice sample.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ax96iVmTCI

    • Gerry H says:

      I’m pretty much aligned with Hobie’s assessment, though I’m less concerned about Price or MaxPac cranking it up a notch (especially Price’s case). I think the guys who could take this team to the next level by playing to their potential are Gomez and Cammalleri. If those two step up, Markov and Gorges play to their pre-injury standard and none of the other top 6 fall into a funk, I think this team has a legit shot at the whole enchillada.

      I’ve never been one to get starry-eyed about the Habs chances, at least not in the last two decades. That said, I’m surprised that most of the league’s prognosticators have a ho-hum view of this team’s potential. I really do think they are beiing under-rated.

      Someone else on this board mentioned that they need to score 30 more goals to be a legit contender, which I think is the key stat. With Gomez playing at least to the standard of his first season in Montreal and MaxPac picking up where he left off, that line alone could account for 20 of those goals. The other ten should be very doable with addition of Cole and the return of Markov (minus Wis and Hamrlik not withstanding). With full seasons from Markov and Gorges, and Spacek playing more realistic minutes, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the GAA go down a tick or two.

      That’s a lot of “ifs.” But that’s also true of every team in the league. That’s why they dont award the Stanley Cup to the top team in TSN’s pre-season power rankings, I guess.

  36. jonnyp says:

    Seen gomer downtown today and hes pumped n ready for this season !! Can Gomez bounce back this year and play like he did in new jersey ? My production is gomez 60 points

    • savethepuck says:

      I agree. It’s early for a veteran to be in town isn’t it?

      “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

  37. RGM says:

    Because I know we have some hockey card collectors here….

    At least one Crosby collector is a bit worried about his future. And at least one still holds out hope that he will return and be great.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sidney-Crosby-Rc-Auto-Patch-Lot-BGS-9-5-10-199-cards-/120765915645

    $72,000 for one amazing lot of cards, including Crosby’s only dual autographed card with another player. An incredible collection.

    During the long summer, we all get to be pretend GM.

    • He has a lot of Crosby auto’s there. I’ve been tossing around whether or not to sell my Crosby collection. I’ve got a lot of money tied up in it. Makes me wonder how much mine is worth…

      • Chuck says:

        Hold on to it. It’ll be worth more when he retires, whenever that is.

      • RGM says:

        It’s an interesting time for Crosby in the hobby. Some people are getting jittery and thinking to sell, while others are seeing an opportunity to finally get a hold of an auto at low prices so they’re thinking buy. “Too big to fail” and all of that stuff.

        During the long summer, we all get to be pretend GM.

        • I have to catalogue my Crosby collection. I’ve got a lot. I don’t have as many high end as that guy but I have a few that are. I only ever bought one tin of the cup, and I pulled a Crosby Honorable Numbers patch/auto in it. lol. You could say I have a bit of luck pulling Crosby cards. I really should get them all graded.

  38. Jordio-oh says:

    Richard Peddie’s retirement agreement has him getting a cup ring if the Leafs win it in the next three seasons. Good for a laugh or two:

    http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/20/leafs-president-richard-peddie-making-big-predictions-wants-stanley-cup-ring-somehow/

    • shiram says:

      Also predicts the Leafs make the playoffs this year…

      If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

      • Jordio-oh says:

        And that the 22-60 Raptors “have some good quality players”.

        • shiram says:

          Well it’s a better speech than saying : ” I’m retiring and all the franchises I oversee are crap!”

          If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Well put Shiram, took me a paragraph below you to say same thing. Nice!

          • shiram says:

            You added the financial element, and seem to know him alot more toroughly than I do.

            If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I had the pleasure of being given courtside seats for a Raptor game about 3 years ago against Cleveland with Lebron. Who is sitting beside me about 3 seats over, Richard Peddie and his family.

            I politely went up to him showed him my 2 tix for courtside, my 2 tix for platinum seats (took another couple with me). Total price was $3,500 for my 4 seats. I said, you realize only an idiot would pay for these. Please understand Richard these were given to me, and realize I will never pay a red cent for the ragtag talent this organization puts on the hardwood and ice every season. He looked at me and smiled.

            I then said, Go Habs GO!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      His legacy in Toronto will be incredible, wild profits for Teachers Pension, incredibly overpriced Condo’s sold out, a huge new sports bar located beside an arena that never experiences playoff success in either basketball or hockey and the brilliance to hire both John Ferguson Jr. for the Leafs and Rob Babcock for the Raptors.

      Truly a great great man in Toronto sports history!

      Oh yah, and the longest consecutive string of years where Leafs miss the playoffs in team history.

      Only fitting he shoves a pipedream of a ring over the next 2 years in his contract.

      Did I mention he also gets credit for that incredible soccer team which hasn’t made the playoffs yet, while boasting the best gate revenue in the league! Guy is a pure winner in sports.

    • ProHabs says:

      He would probably say something like “and once again, we get run by a player, a dirty hit, and we have absolutely nobody on our team that can do something about it.”

      • pierre lapuck says:

        Give it a rest already! Goon hockey is dying and dinosaurs that play goon hockey will die out with them Either get going with the new NHL or stay playing the 1960′s version. In 5 years no goons anywhere on any team, can’t afford the expense with the cap. Why pay a guy ANYTHING if all he can do is skate around and hope that somebody drops the gloves. Sign some guys who are tough and play tough no need for Larock or his ilk. You want Tie Domi clone as a Hab because he throw a punch. Gimme a break.

        • Timo says:

          The dying goon hockey won the Stanley Cup only 2.5 short months ago. Hardly a dying thing I’d say. But sure, lets continue to be a bunch of nice guys. That seemed to have worked great in the past 18 years.

          • I must have missed the part where Boston fought their way to goals with fists. They won because they were a good, talented, physical team with a goaltender experiencing the luckiest streak in NHL history, not because they can fight.

            http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

          • HardHabits says:

            I really find it disingenuous that people attribute Thomas’ outstanding MVP performance to luck. He was no luckier than Patrick Roy was in ’93.

          • shiram says:

            Thomas played great, and had some great help from the D and luck as well.

            If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

          • Timo says:

            Really Andrew? Because my impression from reading these message boards was that Bruins are a bunch of goons with no skill. I think it’s partially true – they have skill but they are goons. And I have nothing against Habs becoming more goons themselves. But it’s hard when the requirement for making a team is that you are shorten than 5’10″ and well… JM is your coach.

          • Jordio-oh says:

            I’d say the fact that the Bruins scored 81 goals (more goals than the Hawks, Pens and Wings did when they won the cup) and had a goalie who had a 1.98 gaa and .940 save percentage was the reason they won the cup.

            But hey, don’t let stats get in the way of a good argument.

            I’d much rather toss around generalizations and opinions based on a few fights and bodychecks remembered from 2 or 3 random games to defend my points….

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Bruins last year had a very good collection of size, skill, and a great goaltending performance from Day 1 of reg. season all the way through playoffs. People can call Tim Thomas lucky all they want, you don’t play that many games all season on luck. Did he get some fortunate bounces? Absolutely, but like they say, you make your own luck. He played great, and I hope he never plays like that again.

          • There are goons on the team, but they won with skill. Thornton and Lucic were basically useless the whole playoffs. They won with guys like Krejci, Marchand and Bergeron carrying the load offensively.

            As for Thomas and HH, unless you consider Thomas to be the greatest goaltender in NHL history who randomly didn’t get good until he was 34 years old, then yeah he relies on luck.

            http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

          • Sakus Evil Twin says:

            I have to concur that you don’t win a Stanley cup with luck. Doubtless there were some lucky bounces, and Thomas’s style is as hap-hazard as it comes, but he’s as lucky as his reflexes are, and on his run he was great. Hasek was regarded as one of the best with a similar style, and he only won one cup – Thomas was full value for his.

            No answers, just opinions. Bite me. Och.

      • Jordio-oh says:

        Between this comment and the one below where you say Higgins is barely a step up from Pyatt, I’m convinced that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

      • HabsFanInTampa says:

        My sentiments exactly, ProHabs! It’s so sad to see this once proud franchise letting our players get hit and nobody on the ice doing anything about it. Oh yeah that’s right. We now call the Montreal Police to investigate..

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Maybe what Spacek says is in broken english with normal sarcasm he has:
      “Hope he don’t hit me in practise like that again”

      Obviously Spacek will be happy that COle is now a teammate and not an opponent!

    • Hate to say it, but Spacek has a really, really bad habit of playing the puck along the boards and turning his back to the play. I’m not saying he’s looking to draw penalties, but I’m not surprised this happens to him all the time.

      http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

    • shiram says:

      Doubt there is an any hate between the two.

      If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

  39. HabsFanNorway says:

    Boone, you have some catching up to do on your danish! That’s a swedish song playing during the Eller clip!

  40. Cardiac says:

    In what galaxy can you put the likes of Garth Snow and Paul Holmgren, Glen Sather and Brian Burke ahead of Pierre Gauthier and Lou Lamoriello?

    “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
    - Jerry Maguire

  41. LNev says:

    To pick up on a conversation half way down the page (and soon to vanish no doubt):

    The discussion regarding Erik Christensen and his value to a team as a 4th liner. (Krob, AB and Chris)

    “11 goals and 27 points last year in 63 games and had 26 points the year before in 49 games.”

    Admittedly his game is pretty soft by NHL standards and defensively he is no Shawn Horcoff (ie: mediocre)… but as a guy who can chip in 10ish goals and be an effective PP guy and Shoot out guy… does he contribute more to a team’s chance of success then a Zach Storini or JF Jacques?

    Personally, I’d rather have a player that can, quantifiably, win me a game or a two.

    I thought the “new” rules would lean towards teams picking up the small super-skilled guys like Desharnais and giving them a chance, while seeing one-dimensional fighters that play 2 minutes, take three penalties and whose influence can’t be measured vanish.

    • I feel the same way as you, but my problem with Christensen is that he’s a lot like a poor man’s Metropolit. He has his uses but more than anything he’s a very poor top 6 forward. He doesn’t have the defensive capability to play on the bottom 6.

      However I’m not against him as a player so much as I’m against giving up someone as valuable as Yannick Weber for him.

      http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

      • krob1000 says:

        I would not give up Weber for him either but Christensen is a good skater, great hands, is a bit of a Chris Higgins with respect to his confidence reportedly….. his skills are there though but I just don’t think it is fair to label him a poor bottom six guy. I think the problem is people expected him to be a top six guy and he did too like Higgins….if they could both just be comfortable in their skin they are very effective bottom six guys and Christensen’s novlety skill in the shootouts is very crucial…right now anyway and could actually make or break a playoff entry as sad as that is.

        • I wouldn’t use the Higgins comparison because unlike Christensen, Higgins is excellent defensively. If Higgins continues to get his game together in Vancouver he could be one of the elite checking forwards in the NHL. He’s strong, an excellent skater and has great defensive instincts.

          We don’t need a player like Christensen, as it stands now everyone on our 3rd line is more talented than him. We need a defense oriented center for the 4th line.

          http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

          • ProHabs says:

            “Higgins continues to get his game together in Vancouver he could be one of the elite checking forwards in the NHL. He’s strong, an excellent skater and has great defensive instincts.”

            Are we talking about the same Chris Higgins that used to play for the Habs. Because that Chris Higgins is barely a step up to Tom Pyatt. There is no way he ever becomes an elite anything in the NHL.

          • krob1000 says:

            I hate the stat but Christensen has a better career plus minus, and Christensen did get top six time in Pitts…in his first full season that was as cut short at 61 games…he still managed 18 goals…a 24 goal clip as a kid….not too shabby. I am not debating whether we should look at Christensen as much as that you said he is a poor bottom six guy…that he is not.

          • ProHabs, you shouldn’t mistake offensive production with being a good player. Lars Eller produced less than Erik Christensen last season yet he’s a vastly superior player.

            In spite of the fact that Higgins can’t hit the broad side of a continent with his shot, he’s an excellent shut down guy. You’re letting the crap heap that was the 08-09 season cloud your judgement. Higgins was probably the most effective player on the Canadiens in that terrible series against the Bruins.

            http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

  42. habitual says:

    From the Van Sun, attributed to the Bleacher Report, players who are the most criticized. Only surprise is who isn’t on this list …

    http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Canucks+slowly+making+their+ways+back/5327769/story.html?tab=PHOT

  43. Ian Cobb says:

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    This year we are coming from USA, France, Hong Kong, the Maritime Provinces, , B.C , Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario and of course La Belle Province.

    We are staying at the Novotel hotel and will all meet and greet at Hurley’s pub Friday eve. Some of us will be having supper there, and name tags will be given.

    Everyone is welcome to join us. Ware you team colours! and enjoy the evening.

    Saturday morning, breakfast is at Chez Cora’s at 8:30am. You can order a la cart and everyone gets 15% discount off your bill.

    We walk over to the Bell Center for the Hall of Fame Tour at 10:30am

    After the tour there will be a professional presentation put on by former concussed hockey players. Kerry Goulet, Keith Primeau and others who are Involved in educating the effects of concussion, depression and neurology rehabilitation.
    (location is pending on permission to use the Bell Center press room)

    At 3pm the Children’s Foundation charity raffle at the Baton Rouge rest. and our pre game dinner. Then we walk across the street to the game.

    After the game the 2nd floor of Hurley’s pub is reserved for us again, to celibate the win. Anyone may join us, just identify yourself as a HIO member.

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  44. 44har48 says:

    I’ll get off my Yemelin kick now since the book is out on him and he is finally coming over :) I’ll pick up where I left off with Engqvist and Avstin. These guys are for real, not playing in pee wees or juniors, and I think Avstin is one of our best prized prospects. Dude was playing pro hockey in Russia when he was 18. Big scorer that is learning the culture, language, and smaller ice on the fly. His numbers will improve as he adapts. Engqvist is our 3rd line shut down center that can contribute offensively occasionally. Eller is in his place, and Gomez is in Eller’s position. If Gomez comes out of the box as same ole Gomez, it won’t be popular around the league, but he has to go to Hamilton and move the kids up. We need our best players on the ice this year at all times. I still think we are only top 5 in the east yet, but this is the best I have felt about our team in many years from the goaltender on out!

  45. shiram says:

    I am bit concerned about Eller, alot rides on his shoulder, and though he has shows great determination and resiliency, he needs to find his scoring touch, and fast!

    He seems the logical replacement if one of the top 2 centers goes down to injury, but he has not shows himself ready for that yet.
    I will be very interested in following how the centers of the team
    are handled, as finally we seem to have some depth on the wings.
    He is playing for his next contract too, and based on last years production, I doubt he’d get a cap hit of 1.27 millions.

    If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

    • krob1000 says:

      I disagree …he was a rookie…he suffered out of the gate, was often handed linemates with little or no offensive ability and then “got his chance” as a winger and clearly was not comfortable on the wing. Over the last quarter of the season he was great and showed plenty of glimpses into his skillset. He also seemed to wait that fraction of a second too long several times last year (probably the adjustment to speed and rink combined, AHL was nto as fast). I prefer that to hot potato syndrome and his strength on the puck was super impressive and he says he is stronger. He reminds me of somewhere between a larger Koivu, younger Jokinen and early Plekanec. I think his ceiling in a MOntreal system is probably around 60 points but aht is just fine….this year I suspect he gets 30-40 points…but more importantly he is that missing link in Montreal…a center with size and skill……I like what I have seen from Eller and in retrospect would make the trade again.
      ps….we also have Desharnais who could center a top six pairing rather seemlessly short term IMO.

      • shiram says:

        I would not take Halak back either, but most of what you talk about is his unrealized potential, and while I can see that potential as well, I’ll keep my doubts untill he realizes that potential, in a Habs jersey.

        As for DD, love the kid, and again he shows that grit/determination/resiliency that I love to see, and he even produced in his limited time. I guess I have to see more of him to really express a better opinion.

        If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

        • krob1000 says:

          I realize it is potential but he is a kid…. my only concern with Eller is his shoulders…I saw enough to know the kid can play. When Jacques Martin plays a kid 21 minuts in the playoffs as a forward you know he did something right…becuase if JM can’t find a reason to sit a kid in the playoffs than he is playing darn near perfect. He amde a ton of great passes that never got converted and missed his share of chances himself. He played limited minutes…I think he played about 32 games with 12 minutes or more and notched 12 points in those games. Considering his linemates, his being a rookie…NEVER getting pp time,etc…that is just fine by me.
          Gomez played 1485 minutes and with top line players and 1st unit pp time all year…he got 35 points. Eller played 857 minutes got 17 points a nd was never really on a pp unit and played with leser linemates, played out of position, is a rookie,etc……I like what I have seen and I think next season will be an easy transition for him to play with better linemates. I fby chance we were to stay healthy and he got to play with Andrei and Dessy….I think it could be on eo fthe better 3rd lines in teh elague….who knows maybe it is pacioretty or someone else that ends up there. I know you are just expressing your doubts…but I really think he is a lock to be a decent player ofr a long time in the NHL. I culd be wrong, you could be wrong…but I really, really liked what I saw last year. I doubt he is ever a finisher but who knows.

  46. Timo says:

    Admittedly spring 2010 was a lot better than spring 2011.

    • GenerationYHabs says:

      While the team is in seemingly great shape approaching the end of this offseason, last year we were all riding the high of a cinderella conference final run instead of nursing the wounds of a bitter first round exit to the Bruins.

  47. MathMan says:

    Red’s point of view is perplexing, as the player the Wild gave way for Heatley isn’t exactly chopped liver.

    In fact, I’m not sure I wouldn’t rather have Havlat than Heatley.

  48. slychard says:

    champs**** (courtesy of daddy Campbell ) thanks caladin never noticed that page

  49. caladin says:

    @ slychard
    * is with the # on the second page of symbols on an iPhone.
    Yes I’m using one now.
    Otherwise great post.

  50. slychard says:

    Ha ha ha …. Thanks for that post on Ratchand and especially the picture. I’m not sure I beleive the breaking a jaw story since he surely would have been arrested but I love how telling the bruin fan posts who all seem to love him more because he is a douche. What class. If and when he does sign I’m expecting Ratchand to have a very difficult 2nd year since not only will the teams gun for the ” champs ” ( have to put in quotations since there are no asterix on iPhone keypad :) but the players won’t let Ratchand get away with half the crap he did. Drop the puck it’s gonna be a great season!

  51. Kooch7800 says:

    Sorry wasn’t on the boards yesterday so sorry if it was posted already but did anyone else listen to the Cole radio interview with Cybulski and Company on TSN radio (it is on the TSN page as well).
    The more I hear from this guy the more I really like him. He is a smart Veteran that plays hard. I think he is going to be a great fit for this team.

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  53. Chrisadiens says:

    Ok. Rumor time. Apparently the Habs are talking to the NYR and WPG so…….

    Gomez and a pick for bogosian?

    Weber for Erik Christensen?

    EDIT: Turns out this is an Eklund rumor. Sorry to get everyone excited myslef included.

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Yah but isn’t that rumour just part of Eklunds rumour wheel?

    • G-Man says:

      Gomez is not going anywhere. Is it an e5?

    • If the Habs traded Weber for someone like Christensen I would want Gauthier fired.

      http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

      • Chrisadiens says:

        Christensen is just a 4th line plugger right? Maybe they see Weber as an extra piece, if Bogosian were to come to MTL. I don’t know, its all fake crap anyway.

        Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

        • Yeah Christensen is basically a poor bottom 6 player with great shootout skills. I can’t see Weber getting dealt unless we get back another good young player in return. Bogosian is probably on the market though, opinion on him has already naively soured on him in Winnipeg.

          http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

          • krob1000 says:

            I don’t know how poor he is….he scored 11 goals and 27 points last year in 63 games and had 26 points the year before in 49 games. The Rangers are even worse than us offensively so those nubmers aren’t bad considering. Factor in his shootout prowress and he IMo is a stellar 4th liner, pretty decentt 3rd liner and can fill in occasionally on a top 6 in a pinch. Do we need him? not unless something else is up but he is not a bad player by any stretch. He is also 27 years old and in his prime…if he were to stay healthy and be put on a top 6 line he could be a 45-50 point guy IMO somewhere.

          • Krob he was put on the top 6 a lot in Pittsburgh. He’s not a top 6 player. He can put up points while facing terrible competition but he can’t play defense to save his life. He’s a lot like Metropolit. To me, if I’m building a team, I want the bottom 6 to be versatile. Scoring is important but I think having guys who can play on the PK and win faceoffs there while handling themselves at even strength is far more important.

            http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

  54. HabinBurlington says:

    Another prognosticator who thinks we will be fighting for the 8th position in the East. Afterall, we all know CBS Sports and there long affinity for hockey right?
    http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/27694626/31609041
    At least they shed light on the fact we have become a consistent team in the East to make the playoffs.

    • ClaytonM says:

      They’re being conservative with some of the darlings in the East – Pittsburgh, Philly and Washington. Boston is probably their #1 prediction, but they aren’t taking into account a few things:

      1) Every team will be gunning for Boston this season.
      2) Philly lost 2 stars, Pronger is 1 year older and coming back from injury, and they never have a goalie or solid D.
      3) Is Crosby going to play 82 games? Some are asking if he plays at all.

      They also forget their history, touting the NYR as a Cup contender for acquiring a star player. Yeah, that was what the Rangers never had, a star player making big bucks or a long term contract.

      I predict Montreal will be a top 4 team, fighting with Boston for the division title if not the conference. We’ve got the depth, the best goalie in the East, a D that’s the envy of every GM in the league, and 3 scoring lines to skate opponents into the ice.

      DROP THE FRIGGIN PUCK ALREADY!

      Ken Dryden For NHL Commissioner

  55. MikeMcLaren says:

    Does anyone else feel like this off-season has lasted forever? I mean, FOR-EV-ER!?

    Perhaps a great deal of it has to do with the Bruins winning the Cup and that the Canadiens were oh-so-close to finishing them off…

    Was it the lack of major moves this off-season especially compared to the past? Erik Cole’s signing is big, but that was really the biggest splash, nothing like seeing 10 or 11 UFAs go and reforming the whole team, or watching what you thought was your #1 goalie being dealt away for prospects, right?

    You know what though? I’ll take it. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, but right now I’m just aching for some hockey. I’m ready to hear the VIA rail horn. I’m ready to watch replay after replay of a game they played last night so that “ET LE BUT!” rings in my ears the rest of the day. I’m ready to see what Pacioretty does in a storybook, breakout, Masterton-winning season. I’m ready for Erik Cole to erase all this talk about smurfs. I’m ready for a third line that can score. I’m ready for Markov to Subban one-timers on the powerplay. I’m ready for Carey Price winning the Molson Cup month after month.

    I’m ready.

    Drop the puck.

    /\\ike
    GO HABS GO!

  56. HardHabits says:

    I would like to finalize the Brad Marchand proceedings and rest my case with the following picture/text message.

    No way this doucherat ever wears the CH.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Doesn’t the quote part about being above the law, kind of just confirm it is a true story. Can picture that douchebag saying and believing that.

      Chiarelli knows he has a tempest in a teapot there with Marchand. I am sure he would be happy to find some team that overvalues this kid and make a trade. No way he gives him the bigbucks he must be asking for. As i have said before, hope he completely overplays his hand that little weasel.

  57. HabinBurlington says:

    Watching the piece on Eller, you realize how important to him and his family it is that he can succeed in the NHL. Dedication, perserverance, character things like that will never be an issue for him. Exactly the kind of guy I want on our team. You get the impression he will never start taking things for granted.

  58. adam76 says:

    The crowds for Marchands parade were small – The Whizzer of Schnozz does not run this town.

  59. PrimeTime says:

    Retro – your comment says more about you than Marchant. We’ve had players like Laps and Ribs that were embarassed at times wearing the CH….no way would most fans want “rats” like Marchand, Cooke, or Avery on the team. They have no regard for anything but themselves and do not make good teamates. Bruins are so pleased with Marchand that PC hasn’t even signed him yet…..probably hoping a team will offer him an offer sheet. Trailer trash is not a good formula for success.

  60. HabinBurlington says:

    Have to believe all the GM’s/Owners in the league must be happy to see that the team they are subsidizing (Phoenix) goes out and picks up a big contract. Must be nice to run a team that is losing money and not have to be accountable. I really believe if Phoenix is not sold this year, we may finally see contraction in this league, or at least I hope we do.

    • Jim Edson says:

      WRONG WRONG WRONG

      The city of Glendale picks up the tab for losses!

      Not the NHL! It’s a push for them!

      Why do you think Buttman has let this go on for so long?

      ———————————————————————-
      …..My empire is crumbling, my international sponsors are deserting me, my authority is questioned, I am held in contempt wherever I go.

      Who am I: Mohamar Ghadaffi or Gary Bettman.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Glendale yes covers part of the losses but only up to $25Million which they again agreed to cover this year. It is reported losses there are in the 40million range. Given all that has happened with that team, tickets sales will probably continue to plummet, and now without a goalie that team will be even worse. Losses after the 25mill from the city are covered by who then? The group running the team, that would be Mr. Bettman and Mr. Daly.

        Edit: Here is article in the local Phoenix paper.$36.6Million in losses in 8months last year. City of Glendale covers $25million. So who covers 11.6million, the fairy godmother?
        http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2011/04/28/20110428nhl-phoenix-coyotes-bill-for-glendale.html

        And why would losses be less this year, given the current status of team.

        • Jim Edson says:

          Previous owners lost 200 mill in 10 years!

          An 11.6 mill loss to a group of billionaires is a tax write-off!

          And the City turns over parking revenue, rent and concessions.

          And never forget revenue sharing which makes teams’ whose books are covered in red ink still break even on the bottom line! St. Louis, Islanders, Florida……………

          If it was that bad they would be on the road two years ago!

          Atlanta was loosing more and had no sugar-daddy paying and they hit the road forthwith,

          ———————————————————————-
          …..My empire is crumbling, my international sponsors are deserting me, my authority is questioned, I am held in contempt wherever I go.

          Who am I: Mohamar Ghadaffi or Gary Bettman.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I am not sure what point you are making, but mine is simple. When this franchise is currently owned and operated by the NHL that means they are being subsidized by the league, which in turn means the other Owners are footing the bills. Yes for another year The city of Glendale is footing $25million of the bill. But everything else has to be covered by someone. That someone is Geoff Molson and others via the NHL head office.

  61. Haligonian-Hab says:

    It’d be nice if Eller could pop 15-20 this year.. i could see this happening

  62. CanadienBoy says:

    Quebec hockey in trouble, Vlasic ,Demers , Letang ,Beauchemin and Robidas are the only Q Dmen in the NHL compare to 30 or so from Ontario and to think two of those where draft by the Habs

  63. SeriousFan09 says:

    Retro, the only reason Marchand is NOT going to be considered the biggest scumbag in the whole of the NHL in the future is because despite his diving, big mouth and cowardly ways is that Matt Cooke is going to be in the NHL because the league does not have the guts to turf him. He is the kind of player who embarrasses Canada above all else. Subban pulled half the garbage he did and that raging senile hypocrite Cherry would post a bounty on him. I can not wait for the next time Subban shatters his ego on national TV.

  64. RGM says:

    Also, to counter the effects of the Marchand parade, I watched the video of P.K. drilling him into oblivion about a dozen times. Helped.

    During the long summer, we all get to be pretend GM.

    • RetroMikey says:

      I would love to have Marchand wearing a Habs uniform and playing for us.
      We all hated Erik Cole when he played for Carolina and now we love him!
      Better get used to hearing him again this year, he’s just going to get better and better playing in the NHL.
      A good old Canadian boy who plays the game without stirring trouble like some Belarussian on our team.

      “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

      • HalifaxHabs says:

        You say Brad Marchand is a “A good old Canadian boy who plays the game without stirring trouble like some Belarussian on our team.”

        Brad Marchand doesn’t stir trouble?

        I’m pretty convinced at this point you don’t even watch hockey Mikey.

        • RetroMikey says:

          He’s a team player, doesn’t stir trouble with his teammates or the media like some whining Belarussian we have.

          “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

          • Haligonian-Hab says:

            Apparently Horton beat the crap out of him in the dressing for chirping him. Horton told him to shut up, and Marchand kept going… …sigh.. I’d rather Big Tits ripping on Martin than Marchand questioning the authority of older players

          • athanor says:

            He wasn’t whining. He was having a chat with the reporter and was asked a question and said he didn’t know what the coach wants of him. A lot of people on this board think that statement could apply to a lot of the younger players. They just don’t get asked the question.
            It’s too bad there wasn’t some proper translation of the ‘interview’ other than the internet ones. A person who speaks both Belarussian and English fluently would be a godsend for that.

      • RGM says:

        Riiiiiight. There’s no shades of Kenny Linsman or Esa Tikkanen to Marchand’s game, no sir. He plays the game the right way, right?

        Cole was “hated” because he had a real knack for scoring critical goals against the Habs. That type of player is respected. I don’t see how anybody can have respect for Marchand.

        During the long summer, we all get to be pretend GM.

        • RetroMikey says:

          ooooohkkkkkaay.
          So every player that plays dirty against our Habs, you hate?
          Buddy, this is the NHL, goon hockey at its best!
          Don’t hate Marchand, hate Bettman for changing our beloved game over the years.

          “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

          • RGM says:

            There are some guys that pull stuff that fit that role – they’re the guys that you love to hate. Lapierre was one of them for the Habs, and I never cared for him because the antics overshadowed the game. There’s a handful of pests around the League that will back it up, but little Bradley is not one of them. He’s a despicable little maggot, both on and off the ice.

            During the long summer, we all get to be pretend GM.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Yah I can see the comparison of Cole to Marchand….NOT. We didn’t like Cole because he played a very good game against us. Big goals, big hits and a very effective power forward.

        We dislike Marchand because he is a ratlike mutant who runs his mouth and never backs it up himself. Yes he can be effective, he actually has some skills and athleticism. But that kid on any other team wouldn’t get away with half the crap he pulls game in and game out. Hopefully he keeps holding out for a huge contract, since the only person that believes he is worth it is himself and his agent. Chiarelli is not going to give in to this punk.

      • Gerry H says:

        I would love to have Marchand wearing a Habs uniform and playing for us.
        We all hated Erik Cole when he played for Carolina and now we love him!

        Are you seriously comparing Eric Cole to Brad Marchand? Cole may be a bit of a bruiser, but his nasty side isn’t even in the same galaxy as Marchand. The comparison is absurd.

      • Jordio-oh says:

        Don Cherry, is that you?

        Your assessment skills leave something to be desired.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        If Marchand played for the Canadiens he would have to tone down his antics. That stuff doesn’t fly here, and also he wouldn’t have five gorillas on the team to enable him.

        I disagree that we all hated Erik Cole. I saw Cole as a physical clutch player wearing the wrong jersey. Kind of like Peter Stasny wore the wrong jersey, or Ron Francis or Andy Moog or Daniel Alfredsson, or… I hated Dale Hunter or Dino Ciccarrelli, but not Erik Cole.
        ———————————
        For my training camp surprise, I want the second coming of Mike McPhee. And maybe Kent Carlson.

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  65. Haligonian-Hab says:

    The Marchand parade was here in Halifax yesterday. This guy claims to run this town.. well when the Habs and Bruins play on Sept 25 at the Metro Centre, he’ll be met with about 8,000 Habs fans to his (maybe) 2000 Bruins fans.. I hope he feels like he’s no longer at home, that punk.

    • RGM says:

      He’s pretty reviled around here eh? Other than the 6 people I saw in the mall yesterday wearing Marchand shirts, does anybody actually like him?
      I know that people aren’t fans of Crosby’s dad for some of the stuff he did back in the day, but for the most part Sid himself is well liked. But, and I can understand it only through the prism of being a Habs fan who loathes the Bruins, the dislike of Marchand seems to run pretty deep. A couple people have shared stories of his asshattery, and I guess they spread like wildfire.

      During the long summer, we all get to be pretend GM.

      • HalifaxHabs says:

        I’ve heard a couple of doozie’s about him. He’s a complete asshole. %100 for sure.

        • RGM says:

          There was the one where he wouldn’t sign a 5-year old kid’s picture because he was wearing a Habs hat, and the kid’s dad chewed out Bradley something fierce. That was one recounted on this very site, as I recall.

          Do tell some others. :)

          During the long summer, we all get to be pretend GM.


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