TGIF roundup

Have y’all recovered from the spine-tingling excitement of watching The Decision?

LeBron to Miami.

Now back to hockey:

• Pat Hickey on pint-sized prospect Brendan Gallagher

P.K. honoured by AHL

Ian Schultz wants to emulate Milan Lucic

• Juniors eye Louis Leblanc

Mike Cammalleri has been watching the World Cup

• La Presse reports extra police for the playoffs cost $2 million

• The indefatigable Robert L sizes up the team

Why not Quebec City?

• Darryl Sutter does something right

Josh Gorges’ Kelowna D partner becomes captain of the Predators

And before we close the book on LeBron James, check out this open letter by Cavs majority owner Dan Gilbert blasting a “shocking act of disloyalty.”

Hey, 838 Comments yesterday? Canadiens fans are crazy.

But we knew that.

627 Comments

  1. Clay4bc says:

    What a “mature” thing to write – well done.

    If it pleases you, though…I will continue to root for the team I have been a fan of since before you were born, and still continue to praise Halak for what he accomplished last year, because he deserves it. Him being on another team does not take away what he did for our team last season, or what a quality person he is. It also does not take away the stupidity of the trade that sent him to the Blues (nor the one that brought us Gomez).

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  2. Jbird says:

    for sure.  Don’t forget about : and {

  3. Ian Cobb says:

    Biter!

    Who are you talking about? No sence reading your post if you are going to use letters for peoples names.

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  4. JIMVINNY says:

    I liked it.  Good one.

  5. G-Man says:

    Relax, Chuck, I was making a joke out of the typo. Sheesh!

  6. krob1000 says:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=326941

    It really is all about the cap anymore…not the money…the cap.  Kovalchuk at 8 or even 9 million all things considered is easily comparable to Goemz at 7.3….the Kings won;t do it for free….we gave up a first rounder, another prospect and Higgins (who I still believe is a 20 goal guy and will be again this season).  Those assets could have netted us something else ….Gomez has won many over with his play and personality…but the game is as important off the ice now as on it….that is all that is being said.  it is no diff’t than Hammer’s contraact or even BGl’s, they all hurt but to ask us to ignore such an important aspect isn;t really fair…woudl you prefer it if we called it cap hit as opposed to salary because none of has a right to care about salary…but cap hit? that is very important to us as fans and should be…the Cleveland Cavaliers just found that out….they didn’t have Cap room to add any more building blocks….see ya Lebron.  The Miami heat spent years planning to have an extreme amount of cap space…hello championships.  The Cap is like the Matrix…it is everything.  I don;t see anyone really disliking Gomez….but when you look at trying to improve the team his contract and a few others stick out like sore thumbs.

  7. punkster says:

    Come on now HFS72. That topic is a sacred here as Price/Halak bashing, Gainey ball-busting and Tony242 nonsensical drivel. How can you limit quality like that?

    FREE TIMO!

  8. Chuck says:

    Holy hell, it’s not like they traded Patrick Roy (again).

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  9. bwoar says:

    I doubt it’s that serious, from some of the fan-shot vids I saw of camp he was stick-handling pretty nicely indeed.  I know we’re all excited by this prospect but let’s also temper that, it makes any news tidbit about him seem larger than it may be.  In any case he’ll be going to Hamilton for a year, virtually guaranteed, before joining the big club.

  10. HabFanSince72 says:

    Could people stop going on and on about Gomez’ salary already?

     

     

  11. G-Man says:

    There’s no “hoping” here. :)

    Just stark reality.

  12. HabFanSince72 says:

    Ian Schultz planning to pattern himself on Milan Lucic? What does he mean? Show some early promise and then turn into a freaking pylon?

  13. SmartDog says:

    Cisse sounds great I agree.  But that doesn’t mean that Gallagher isn’t.

    What amazes me is how some of these players get ignored for small reasons – like they get injured and drop off the radar for awhile.  The team that REALLY puts resources into scouting is the one that will pick up the best late-rounders.  Everyone knows about the early guys…. it’s the ones that are under the radar that are worth taking.

     

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  14. ed lopaz says:

    the first step is to find a way to get rid of bettman.

    then we replace him with someone like Gretzky.

    then Canadian franchises will be revived.

     

  15. ed lopaz says:

    hey smart dog –

    I had a 6’3 210 lbs, Yassin Cisse, power forward, who has great hands, excellent speed and mobility, and

    was scoring almost a goal a game before he got injured last year in the USHL.  The injury is not serious, and will not hurt his development.

    This young man comes from a first class family, he’s an excellent team player, and he works his freakin tail off every shift. He played with

    Louis Leblanc as a 16 year old in Midget AAA here in Montreal, and is now on his way to Boston College.

    He lives 5 minutes from the Bell Center.

    He was drafted # 150 (Atlanta) in this year’s draft, and the Habs passed right over him to take Gallagher.

    So you like Gallagher – great!!

    I think Cisse would have been a pretty good gamble at # 150.

    All things remaining equal, I believe you should write down his name, because I think he has the physical

    and mental ability to not only play NHL, but be an effective 2nd line power forward who scores goals.

    Sorry I’m being cynical about this, but the way the Habs operate never ceases to amaze me.

     

  16. Puck Bard says:

    Very nice post Gumper.

  17. Jbird says:

    Great Google Translation in the Ian Shultz article –  talking about his style:

    But yes, it is the style I like Lucic more. I have a career like hers.

    Never knew Google translator was this great.  :-)

  18. SmartDog says:

    I agree that BG and PG are different, and shouldn’t be viewed as exactly the same. It’s not fair to either man, and it’s just not true.

    But as Ed points out below, do you give PG a pass on Gomez?  On a THIRD of our salary locked into 3 players for five years (and none of them an allstar forward)?  Or was Gauthier sick those days?

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  19. Bill H says:

    Please see response below, Marek

  20. JoeC says:

    http://blues.nhl.com/

     

    Thats for everyone that hates the Habs now that Halak is gone and is bandwagon hoping please go over there and praise Halak and stop with the arguing here.  KK Thanks

  21. Castor says:

    Great post.

    I actually think that our bottom six are BETTER than last year right NOW.

    Think about it.

    I’ll take Pyatt, Byod and Eller over D’Agostini and Laraque.

    I know it’s asking a lot, but imagine everyone plays to their potential

    GOMEZ – GIONTA – POULIOT

    CAMMY – PLEKY – AK

    MOEN – ELLER – LAPS

    DARCHE – BOYD – PYATT

    People forget that we have 4 proven 25 to 35 goal scorers on the top two lines alone.

    If Eller even plays to half his potential and Laps plays like the playoffs and Boyd plays marginally well we got ourselves some decent grinder lines.

    Plus this year we have PK all year on defense.

  22. Jbird says:

    You mean this isn’t Gary Bettman and some impostor poser?!?!?  

  23. ed lopaz says:

    dude – with all due respect, it is pretty much accepted by everyone, media, fans, etc, that

    gauthier was directly involved in every major decision gainey took last summer – including gomez.

    when you say,

    First of all, I think it’s unfair to characterize PG as the puppet of BG. What we’ve seen since Gauthier took the reins is a manager trying to manage his way around the constrictions placed on him by Gainey’s Free Agency Madness buying spree last summer. Not an easy thing to do. Burdened by one or two inordinately large contracts, Pierre has no choice but to gradually bring things back into reasonable balance.

    it is my understanding that Gauthier /Gainey can NOT be separated like that.

    Gainey, has himself admitted publicly that people such as Gauthier and Timmins were in fact given

    the ultimate responsibility in their respective offices.

    If you like what gainey has done – great! – you can also feel good about gauthier.

    If you didn’t like the signings last year – it was ALSO GAUTHIER (and sometimes MOSTLY Gauthier) who brought these contracts to montreal.

  24. habsonly says:

    Excellent post, rational and well thought out.

    Agreed with your all points and believe we have to remain optimistic that this team is on the right track and has alot of potential going forward.

    I like the character that this team has developed and demonstrated during the playoff run this year and with a few surprises who knows. Looking forward to the 2010-2011 season. 

  25. TorontoHabsFan says:

    I’m assuming that he was referring to Eller’s base salary minus performance bonuses – which is $875,000. I’m not sure what those bonuses are, but it isn’t inconceivable that Eller wouldn’t reach them.

    I still think that Eller should stay in Hamilton for the year, and try to get Torres on a bargain deal as the summer drags on.

  26. WarHero says:

    Maybe, maybe not, once those Championship rings are on their fingers I think they might be singing a different tune :)

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  27. Slovak says:

    The post was about Price… As i still don’t understand why he is not signed already and how much money he deserves…

  28. smiler2729 says:

    Garry, the real Bettman only has one ‘r’ in Gary…

  29. Mr. Biter says:

    Very good article by R Lang to which I compleatly agree with. PG still time to sign Moore. BTW did Laps sign yesterday and if so what salary? Also great re-buttal letter to LB  from Cavs’s owner. Boy those he sound Pissed. What’s LB making, about 1/2 of the Habs entire cap per year?

  30. SmartDog says:

    Pretty slim.  He might be a late season call-up for games against tough teams if we have injuries.  But I would expect we’ll either not see him this year or see him for a few games next year.

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  31. Bill H says:

    No offence to the people that are still pissed, but I bet Halak is over it and has moved on.  These guys know it is a business.

    Even when Saku was dropped, I was sad to see him go, but its a business, especially in the Salary Cap Era.

    I really don’t get all that attached to players anymore.  When they move on to other things, I tend to cheer for the new team, not grieve for the old team. 

  32. SmartDog says:

    For enough $ he will.  And he’ll give you a lapdance and striptease first!

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  33. mike g says:

    You know, I can’t argue with that..

    So many crutial decisions in the past 10-15 years have been botched. Where to move teams, the incompetent salary cap, no more ESPN, etc…Gary Bettman has made the game worse for the fans. And in the end, the fans are the single most important variable in the equasion of a healthy league/sport. Without fans, there is no money.

    And he’s stuck the finger to the fans with way too many bad decisions. The only problem is, the “loyal” fans in Canadian and few American markets, still pay for the on-ice product. No matter how much this league is mis-managed, we will always watch because it’s in our blood. And because we still pay, teams continue to make rediculous amounts of money. And the league uses a formula to calculate profits, according to it the league is healthy.

    However, I can’t wait to see how the new formula is renegotiated for the new CBA starting in 2012…

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  34. G-Man says:

    He replied to that question last year with “I was never asked.” Look it up, I’m not a link provider today, it’s too bleeping hot!

  35. SmartDog says:

    Partly true.  You’re right that it’s the overall profit motive that drives decisions and the owners want maximum profits so they are with Bettman in seeing the US as having $ growth potential.

    But Bettman’s not a robot. If he wanted to move Phoenix to Canada it would happen.  A financial argument COULD be made since the owners know that they’re propping up these lousy-market teams.   But the will isn’t there. Gary wants what GAry wants – and he wants to be the baseball of winter.  That’s ALL he wants.  He doesn’t give a rats ass about Canada, it’s fans, or even it’s money.

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  36. Jbird says:

    So is China – you should go there for 10 years and come back and tell us what happened.  We will somehow survive without you Czar Bettman.

  37. adamkennelly says:

    any chance Shultz makes the team?  if not (and maybe even if so) this is one soft ass hockey team.  Moen as your toughest player- give me a break…other teams muscle up in FA and Habs sit there like they don’t even know they have to play those same teams.

  38. Jbird says:

    Remember when the “big three” signed in Boston in 2007?  Most people said the exact same things as you and expected them to fail.  They didn’t. To recap: 3 Seasons One Championship, and two finals appearances for Boston.  NOW you have Wade, Bosh, James???  They would need to literally stab each other to fail here – and Bosh ain’t that gangsta - in fact he isn’t at all.  I predict Miami domination. 

    Not a fan of what happened in the NBA – especially that they all knew they were going to Miami for weeks, or months.  What is happening in the NBA is that individually the superstar players have become more powerful than the owners.  I want to be mad at Bosh and James but can’t.  They did exactly what any savy owner would do in the situation: Built the brand, built suspense and made loads of money in potential sponsorships.  The difference is the owners doing it is that their body and personality are not the brand it’s the Yankee pinstripes, the Raiders Black and the Chicago Bull.  Call me a “commie” but I’m sort of glad the players are getting this type of play – they are what we want to watch, Who wants to watch takhe owner play? They are the product and smart enough now to make just as much as any owner.  Good for them 

  39. WarHero says:

    Markov refusing is more due to his broken english and not being good around the media. Can’t have a captain like that, especially in Montreal.

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  40. G-Man says:

    Wrist injury keeping him off the ice.

  41. G-Man says:

    Management is over-reliant upon “potential” panning out. This isn’t supposed to be the frigging Bulldogs. After 17 years, I want to see players that can play, not might bes and maybes.

  42. j2c says:

    As per one of the articles mentioned above it seems Avtsin got injured while at camp. This is not good news especially with where the injury or re-injury happened.

     

    ~Avtsin ailing: The Canadiens haven’t had much of an opportunity to evaluate Alexander Avtsin. The 19-year-old Russian injured his wrist and wasn’t able to practice yesterday. The Canadiens are trying to determine the best place for him to play next winter. He could go back to the KHL, play junior hockey in Canada or suit up with the Hamilton Bulldogs.~

     

    Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Subban+honoured/3254382/story.html#ixzz0tCAF1Qrm

  43. derfab says:

    Will Betman bend over? That is the question.

    character is derfab destiny.

  44. Slovak says:

    Thank you for reminder :)

  45. mike g says:

    Dear Lebron….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zGB3bpZATs&feature=related

    Thank you very much for increasing my interest in yet another sport. As if I didn’t spend enough of my time with hockey, baseball and football.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  46. Slovak says:

    I need more than one team to cheer for…:-) On one extreme side I really think Price will fail – I just can not say I like him as n.1 - he did not earn it at all - it is the same with friendship in life – you are not friend with someone who did not somehow earn your sympathy… (but maybe he will earn it in the future), on the other extreme side I still somehow like the team. I think I don’t have to like all parts of the team to cheer for it as I don’t have to love superintelligent management… do I :-)

    Except that I must say this is the best forum so far in the whole NHL according to amount of informations, fans and atmosphere…:-) Even if I don’t post so often I like to read it…

    And I really think many people here are overacting when it comes to strong disagreements – prime example is TONY – so many people here don’t like him but why? Is he really that bad? I don’t think so, many times his negativity is much more interesting than someone’s blind positivity…

    But that is just a view from overseas :-)

  47. gumper says:

    For what they’re worth, here are my thoughts about next year’s version of the Habs.

    First of all, I think it’s unfair to characterize PG as the puppet of BG. What we’ve seen since Gauthier took the reins is a manager trying to manage his way around the constrictions placed on him by Gainey’s Free Agency Madness buying spree last summer. Not an easy thing to do. Burdened by one or two inordinately large contracts, Pierre has no choice but to gradually bring things back into reasonable balance. For this year, the wisest way to do this is to trade for/sign young, inexpensive personnel with (we all devoutly hope) significant upside in the next 2-5 years. As far as trading Halak rather than Price, you just had to know that Halak would be the one on the trading block for two reasons. 1. Habs have committed to Price from the get-go, as the goalie with the bigger upside long-term, whether it’s true or not. 2. Halak likely has more value right now in a trade as the more proven NHL goalie. 

    Secondly, several people here have made the point that the end of next year will see significant dollars freed up for free agency. I agree with those thoughts, and the related idea that Gauthier is definitely not setting the team up for a deep run next year, but rather sometime within the next 3 years. I know we’re all tired of five-year plans, but we just have to accept the fact that for our current GM, this is year one. We can’t expect him to accomplish all of his goals and visions within the first year of his tenure. Afterall, most of us were willing to give Bob five.  I agree with people who are saying that, on paper, the team we have heading into 2010-11, is not better than last year’s version. It lacks experience, particularly in the bottom six. However, the other side of that coin is that we may just have a bottom six with more potential than last year’s version, and that’s the key from PG’s point of view. I suppose, in his mind, he believes that a less expensive group with more potential is the best way to deal with cap issues, given the cards he’s been dealt.  (Eller, Boyd instead of Moore, White, Maxwell, instead of Metropolit.)  Next year, with more FA dollars to spend, and with a better understanding of what he really has, Gauthier will be in a position to fill in holes with veteran players and make a serious run.

    Thirdly, and quite irrationally, I’m pretty excited about the youth movement on the team. For whatever reason I believe this team could surprise a few people next year. Personally, I really like it when the pundits start counting the Habs out, because that’s when they perform best. Going into next season, the veterans are established and there will be no major breaking-in period while they get to know each other. We have young guys challenging for ice time at most positions, and the general attitude on the team is one of confidence and healthy competition. When you are feeling pessimistic, compare this to the state of confusion that reigned at this time last year. This has to be a big improvement.

    Finally, as far as the Carey Price/Alex Auld experiment is concerned, what can you say? We just have to keep our fingers crossed and hope it all pans out. This is by far PG’s biggest gamble. If it doesn’t pay off, there’s always the possibility there may be some free agent tenders still floating around out there. Anyway, there’s naught can be done about it anyway, and I refuse to spend my summer gnashing my teeth and rending my garments over things that can’t be changed.  With kids like Avtsin, Kristo and LeBlanc in the wings, we might as well remain optimistinc. It’s better than the alternative!

     

  48. bwoar says:

    There is no truth at all to the Markov/captaincy thing, you can put it to bed.

  49. Garry Bettman says:

    But the united states are an unserved market!

  50. HabFanSince72 says:

    Bettman does what the owners tell him.

     

  51. krob1000 says:

    what happened with Avtsin..I thought he was at camp…..did he leave?

  52. bwoar says:

    re Avtsyn

    Yes, and that something is the Montreal Canadiens, who didn’t have the class or organizational intelligence to make sure the kid had A TRANSLATOR on hand.  I’m not a negatron but WTF – the kid doesn’t speak English, they invite him over and he comes, and they have not a single Russian on hand to help with communication??

    Amazing.

    But I don’t think it’s quite so dire as you make it out to be, a lot of people feel he’s got some kind of injury that is holding him back right now.  I read that Moscow Dynamo has announced his contract was broken so I assume he is serious in pursuing hockey on this continent.

  53. avatar_58 says:

    When a team makes a player captain it usualy signals he’s not moveable for awhile

  54. SmartDog says:

    Alright!  You must be a genius too!  :)

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  55. SmartDog says:

    I see it as “because Bettman ONLY WANTS to sell the game to Americans”. 

    But I agree with your point.  These articles are useless.  Just a journalist making a story out of nothing.  Canadians will watch anyway so where’s the profit in that?   But I hear there’re a few people excited about hockey in Butfuk Ohio.  Maybe THEY’ll get the next team.     

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  56. derfab says:

    Based on what I saw during the olympics, Weber is definately the best.

    Your audacious comments remind me that I am still bothered by the assumption or fact  that Markov refused the C. 

    If he did, it tells you he’s not fully on board with this team and probably can’t be counted on for 2011-12.

    I was one of the “idiots” ready to give him up for Lecavalier before we got Gomez.

    character is derfab destiny.

  57. SmartDog says:

    Apparently last year and this year he said he’d play in NA but he didn’t last year and now is saying he won’t this year either. 

    And though I agree the stupid Canadien management should’ve had a translator there with him, the longer he stays in Russia the harder it’s going to be to pick up enough English to play in Canada.

    So if you look at his choices, he’s not getting closer to being a Hab, he’s getting further.

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  58. Clay4bc says:

    Get over it – people are still pissed.

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  59. HabFanSince72 says:

    No point in having a veteran for one year at this point – better to bring up the youngsters, especially when said veteran was never that good to begin with.

     

  60. StevieRay says:

    2) not only left ..but got nothing for them …nothing !~~ Should’ve traded Bosh to Utah !  Jerry Sloan would of made a player out of him !! Looks good on Toronto though !!!

  61. SmartDog says:

    I try to be realistic…. which means I have difficulty seeing things in the rosy way that some people think a “true fan” should.  But I have to say I love the optimism around some of our prospects and it’s easy to get caught up in it.

    I think this Gallagher kid is cool. His numbers are awesome -he’s a true performer – and the fact that he has the toughness and fitness to match, to me means he may just have what Marty SL has.  A good late-round pick I think. 

    I also love Shulz’s attitude. He sees the Habs need and wants to be that solution.  We need more of that.  Sounds like a positive camp… except for Avitsyn (sp?) who seems like something or someone is blocking him from making the jump to either North America, or English capitalist society, or both.  starting to look like another stay-at-home Russian.

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  62. Clay4bc says:

    :-)

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  63. Bill H says:

    Get over it.  Halak plays for St. Louis now.

  64. StevieRay says:

    What a bunch of BS….I was never a Bosh fan especially when he went all gangster lookin’ last season …he’s just a soft.. perimeter shooter ..

    I am Canadian and Hockey is my game … thank God !

  65. HabFanSince72 says:

    Surely the answer to all those “Why not Canada” articles is “Because we sold the game to Americans.”

  66. Chris F says:

    OK, lets start the insanity. Next year we go after Shea Weber with everything we have. Hammer and Gill off the books, and even if we have to part with Markov. Yes, Shea Weber is that good, he’s as good as there is. Big, strong, best shot in the league. What more could you want. Keep O’Byrne, Georges, Subban, and I believe Spacek is still under contract, pick up someone else to fill in the number six role, and there you have it.

    Shea Weber will play 26-28 minutes a night when it counts. Man, this would be awesome. But…Nashville may try to sign him early if they are smart, they just made him captain as a ploy to keep him no doubt. Same thing Vancouver did with Luongo. Anyway, I’m just saying that this guy would be the absolute best player we could possibly get for this team. Lock him up for 10 years and have him teach Tinordi.

    Hey, tell Georges to open the lines of communication this year. It’s not tampering if it’s a buddy joking around right?

     

  67. Clay4bc says:

    Get outta my head man! How could you possibly know exactly what I was thinking? You’re freaking me out!

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  68. derfab says:

    One of the great things about hockey is that there is still place for smaller players to excel. I am starting to appreciate the fact that the Habs have gone after some good, tenacious young players like Boyd and Shultz. Galagher is my kind of player and could really be a good one. Good pick.

     

    character is derfab destiny.

  69. Chuck says:

    I say sign him for four to take him to 27. That way, he’s locked in until he’s UFA-eligible and less of a risk for a potential trade partner should someone come along with a deal that the Habs couldn’t refuse.

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  70. puck face says:

    man it’s going to suck for anyone not named James , Wade , OR Bosh playing for the heat ,  three guys with huge egos each wanting to score 30 points per game ,  good luck  ever seeing the ball. this could end up backfiring for the heat if things don’t go smoothly from the get go , there’ll be three big egos back stabbing each other and a bunch of support players pissed off that they don’t have any stats to negotiate new contracts with.

  71. Clay4bc says:

    Seconded!

    (or thirded, if Tony’s on board…? Whichever…)

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  72. Slovak says:

    I really don’t understand what are they waiting for, do you? But maybe I am wrong and there are superbrains in HABS management and they will show us all that they got some ”super 6th sense chess master plan” for everything…

  73. WarHero says:

    Hopefully we’ll see Price sign today. Followed by Laps.

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  74. HabFanSince72 says:

    In fairness, some anglos know how to speak their own language.

     

  75. andrewberkshire says:

    The Rangers haven’t signed Dan Girardi or Marc Staal, we’ll see what it looks like after.

  76. krob1000 says:

    lol not sure if that was intentional or not…but let’s say you are Jonathan Toews and Andrew Ladd is your good friend and Hjalmarsson just signed this offer sheet….how pissed are you at Hjalmarsson?   A player signing an offer sheet like this in Chicago’s situation pretty much means someone elsehas to go.  Don’t you find it odd that noone talks about it that way and instead it is a low blow by hte GM….Hjalmasrsson had to sign the offer sheet.  I bet if they changed the name to an “acceptance sheet” that is all it would take to shift the blame lol.  Some psych major on ere should look into this because the whole stigma with these offer sheets really bothers me….I think they will have to happen.  In years past they didn’t and gm’s all had an unwritten agreement to not do this…which in an environment like the NHL I would have thought would be a huge issue with the NHLPA as it is essentially a type of colluision is it not.  It is the opposite of price fixing isn’t it? wage fixing? I don’t know but something about this whole topic has never sat right with me.

  77. TripleX says:

    They have 21 players now, so how many does the CBA allow?  Is there a limit on total number of signings or is the only limiting factor the Cap?

  78. avatar_58 says:

    Yes I know how to use google, save for the fact that old crappy blogs come up 1024×768 wallpapers. I was asking if you guys had any favs with you know, up to date HQ stuff.

  79. yathehabsrule says:

    Had a chance to sit in on Wayne Gretzky’s media scrum yesterday at his golf tournament

    I was hoping to catch Claude Lemieux, when he finished his round, but weather slowed things up and his group was still out on the course at 6:30. Apparently his son was in tow and was being a bit of a brat for the afternoon.

    Some guy from Montreal wanted to get Brett Hull to sign something. All he had was a Habs hat…Hull signed it anyways..lol

    ___________________________________________

    Ya! The Habs Rule! now on Twitter!

  80. TripleX says:

    Excuse my  terrible grammar, my rejoinder was aimed at the original author of the thread.

    I appreciate you taking the time to turn it into another insult directed at me.  Just saying.

  81. Jean4 says:

    7 days to match. For Price also on a team with cap difficulties at just $2.6 million all it would cost the other team a 2nd rounder next year who might play in 3 or 4 years for the young goalie.

  82. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    I agree, in a situation like that, Toews would be mad, but I think Hawks are getting a lot more than just a fair amount in return for Hjalmarsson. I know the kid has a lot of potential, but a 1st round AND a 3rd round pick for next year’s draft? Unless you have poor scouts, that’s a pretty good return for a young d-man with only 111 games of NHL experience.

  83. HabFanSince72 says:

    let’s say you are Jonathan Toews and Andrew Ladd is your good friend
    and Hjalmarsson just signed this offer sheet….how pissed are you at
    Hjalmarsson? 

     

    Toews could always tell him to reject the raise and agree to give him $2M a year.

  84. Rugger says:

    Habs would match at that level.

  85. ed lopaz says:

    an offer sheet for Price would likely be for around 3.85 million; in fact, a GM could easily offer

    the same contract that Halak just received – I think that number and term would work very well

    4 yrs, 15 million offer sheet for Price.

    Would the Habs be forced to match that offer?

    Any thoughts?

    who has the picks available (apparently not Philly), and needs a young goalie like Price??

    Chicago??

    Is that a possibility at all?

    Any other teams that could be interested?

  86. TripleX says:

    Ok thanks.  xD

  87. GrimJim says:

    The price break is at 3 mil. Under than is a 2nd rounder. Over than is a first. But there’s two things to note: first no goalie has received an offer sheet since before the lockout. Second Mtl has four mil to sign Laps and Price. If I were PG i’d match a 2.6 mil offer and bargain hard with Laps. And third, Mtl only has cap issues this year.

    “Punch Imlach would tell the press he was calling up someone from the minors who was going to take care of me. So I would skate by the Leafs bench and say “Who ya got for me today, Punch? Send him out.” – John Ferguson

  88. Jean4 says:

    But what if they offer closer to what Halak got? $3.75 million or thereabouts?

  89. Malreg says:

    Not going to happen, since there are still a lot of capable goalies on the market.  Marty Turco could probably be had for $3.85 mil, and it doesnt the team any draft picks.

  90. ed lopaz says:

    I think Turco is crap and washed up – but that’s just me.

    As a GM, I would rather give up a 1st and a 3rd and get Price for 4 years.

     

  91. ManApart says:

    Bergeron stays, Savard goes. Boston’s in love with Bergie.

  92. Jean4 says:

    $3 million that’s even worse. Price should have been signed before Halak was traded away if that was who they wanted to keep. I would think Price is hoping for an offer?

  93. TorontoHabsFan says:

    GM For A Day Question:

     

    If Yzerman called you up and offered Lecavalier for Gomez, straight up, would you take it?

  94. JIMVINNY says:

    Double.

  95. Chorske says:

    Yeah, probably.

  96. Jean4 says:

    I think if that happened Molson would bring in new management.

  97. ed lopaz says:

    many people here have a serious hate on for Vinny – maybe because he makes too much money.

    where I live, Vinny is very much respected.

    at 6’4, 225 – who would you rather have?

     

  98. JIMVINNY says:

    With how many picks that have changed hands recently, I’d bet that the teams that might have any interest at all either don’t have the cap space or don’t have the picks.  That being said, with the caliber of free agent goalies still available, don’t count on any team trying to sign Price to an inflated offer sheet when they can sign a free agent without giving anything up at all.

  99. kempie says:

    That’s an interesting angle. Players paying teammates to stay. Sounds like a big can of worms here but it is food for thought.

  100. TripleX says:

    Stevie Y would never make that deal so the question is mute.

    We are stuck with Gomez for a few years sadly.

  101. ManApart says:

    I’m one to rag on Scarey Price, but if he signed an offer sheet for double what the Habs were offering, I could never blame him, and never would. Money is money and you have to do what’s best for your familie’s future.

  102. GrimJim says:

    I thought that was you, Tony. How was the vacation?

    “Punch Imlach would tell the press he was calling up someone from the minors who was going to take care of me. So I would skate by the Leafs bench and say “Who ya got for me today, Punch? Send him out.” – John Ferguson

  103. ed lopaz says:

    there’s no one left besides Turco, Toscala and Theodore, everyone else has been signed. the 3 “T”‘s, and they all suck – one is worse than the next.

    http://www.sportscity.com/nhl/2010-nhl-unrestricted-free-agents-by-position/#Goalie

  104. kempie says:

    No. Gomez’ contract expires eventually. Vinny is for life. 

  105. TorontoHabsFan says:

    I actually wouldn’t be surprised if this was offered at some point. I can’t realistically see how Yzerman can get rid of Lecavalier unless he takes on another albatross contract (but for shorter term).

  106. Jean4 says:

    St. Louis once gave up five #1s for Scott Stevens.

  107. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’d rather not have a guy who hasn’t had multiple shoulder surgeries that are impacting his performance and a contract that doesn’t end until he’s years over the Over-35 part of the CBA. He may be big, but he doesn’t play big. One of the worst contracts in the NHL.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  108. secretdragonfly says:

    Nope,  Vinny’s  cap  hit  will be $7.7m  for  the foreseeable  future and he’s only one year younger than Gomez.     What else you  got?

  109. Chorske says:

    Nuts. Madness.

    It’s a perfect sh!tstorm from the goalie’s perspective. First, two backups lead their teams into the Cup Finals (or in Leighton’s case, backup to the backup to the backup). Second, a ton of experienced goalies hit the market- and don’t give me crap about them being washed up, these are proven goalies for the most part. Third, the teams that most need goaltending are up against the cap. Fourth, in the new cap era, first round picks are golden because more teams are giving their top line(s) the big bucks and asking kids to do mopup duty on lines 3 and 4… and where do those kids come from except from within, from the draft.

    So again, for the umpteenth time: no-one is giving a gazillion dollar offer sheet to Price. He just isn’t worth the gamble.

  110. Former Jets Fan says:

    Not a chance.

    At least Gomez and his 7.3 million come off the books in 4? years, when he’s 34ish.  Vinny’s 7.7 million would definitely seem like a weightier anchor when he’s pushing 40.  For Montreal – lacking the young, cheap top-end talent Tampa has – it would be a franchise killer.

  111. Jean4 says:

    Toscala

     

    Lars Eller and Aaron Palushaj were both drafted at slots that the Toronto Maple Leafs traded for Toskala to San Jose who then traded both to St.Louis. Both then were chosen by St. Louis exactly one pick after the Habs pick in each of the 1st and 2nd rounds of 2007. Ryan McDonough and PK Subban.

  112. ManApart says:

    In that case, please somebody, offer Price a huge contract, right now!  HAVE MERCY AND SAVE US.

  113. Chorske says:

    Way illegal under the current CBA.

    Also, the NHLPA would have kittens.

  114. GrimJim says:

    By the way, a “price break” is an economics term for the point where the per-unit price of an item is reduced when an order exceeds a specific quantity. I’m not using it exactly right but I meant it was the point where the compensation steps up to the next level. It had nothing to do with Le Glorieux Carey.

    “Punch Imlach would tell the press he was calling up someone from the minors who was going to take care of me. So I would skate by the Leafs bench and say “Who ya got for me today, Punch? Send him out.” – John Ferguson

  115. HabFanSince72 says:

    No. I’d say ” You have the wrong number buddy”.

     

  116. Harani says:

    Chicago doesn’t have cap room. And they haven’t signed RFA Anti Niemi yet and they have Huet. I think it’s not a possibility at all.

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  117. Former Jets Fan says:

    To the best of my knowledge, the over-35 clause in the CBA is strictly for contracts that take effect when a player is 35 or older.  Vinny could theoretically be bought out.  I hear you on the injuries angle though, and your final sentence.  It boils my blood to continually hear his name brought up as a desirable asset.

  118. Les Habitants says:

    LOL!

     

    The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!

  119. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Not only that, but have you seen next season’s potential UFA goalies? There’s some very good names there too (Vokoun, Bryzgalov, Leclaire, Anderson, Howard, Ersberg, Conklin, Garon, Labarbera, Boucher).

    It’s going to be a few years before the goalie market returns to a seller’s one.

  120. HabFanSince72 says:

    I think the over-35 only applies to contracts that start when the player is over 35. When Vinny retires his contract is off the books.

     

  121. Former Jets Fan says:

    I’m not sure about Chicago’s picks, but it bears mentioning that the picks exchanged when signing an RFA to an offer sheet *must* be that team’s original picks, and not picks acquired though trades.

  122. GuyDoon says:

    Dan Girardi signs 4yrs/3.3M http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=327068 

    Rangers have 21 players and 4.5M cap space with Girardi contract.

  123. DD says:

    I remember Rick Suttcliffe giving Andre Dawson, I believe it was $100,000 or $200,000, from his own salary to sign with the Cubbies. The Expos declared that ‘The Hawk’ was washed up. He ended up having a career year on the natural grass.

  124. GrimJim says:

    Then Price is worth the same as Halak was, a 1st and a 3rd rounder. Hey, wait a minute, that means PG correctly estimated what Halak would be asking for. Plus since PG got at least one NHL ready prospect he got a little more for Halak.

    Nice work Tony, you proved that PG knows what he’s doing after all.

  125. ed lopaz says:

    in theory, couldn’t they just choose to pass on Niemi, and we’ve heard rumours that Huet is being sent to the minors.

    are there any other teams?

  126. joeybarrie says:

    The question is Do you think another GM WILL offer Price 15 million for 4 years?

    How many goalies are there out there who are still unsigned? Is this a REAL possibility?

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  127. HabFanSince72 says:

    Lecavalier played all 82 games last year and had 70 points. A bad season for him but equal to Gomez’ best season of the last 4 years. He was much better in the 2nd half too, when his recovery from surgery was complete.

    Yes, the contract is too long, but don’t be suggesting that he is not a very good hockey player, and certainly better than Gomez (and I like Gomez).

     

  128. SPATS says:

    Mute is on your remote, Moot is the term you were looking for :)

  129. Anonymous says:

    You know your sig is wrong, right? Just in case you tried to use it, I wouldn’t want you to get embarrased. ;)

     

  130. ManApart says:

    LOL, nice try, but trying to prove PG and Co. know what is going on is a hopeless endeavour.

  131. ed lopaz says:

    For a team that believes Price can win them a cup – like Montreal for example – I disagree with you.

    I think he would be worth the gamble.

    It depends on how you value Price.

     

  132. GrimJim says:

    Pre-cap. Entirely different world. And they still didn’t win a Cup

    “Punch Imlach would tell the press he was calling up someone from the minors who was going to take care of me. So I would skate by the Leafs bench and say “Who ya got for me today, Punch? Send him out.” – John Ferguson

  133. Anonymous says:

    A mute is also what you will be if you keep correcting TripleX. lol. This guy is serious.

  134. ed lopaz says:

    thank you sir. you better duck quickly, however, because i just felt my desk shake, and it wasn’t the

    thunder outside. :-))

  135. HabFanSince72 says:

    Good goalies were going for $1.5M tops this off-season (Except for the Blues who got royally taken to the cleaners.)

     

  136. ed lopaz says:

    Toskala, Turco, and Theodore. are the only 1st string goalies left in the market.

    here’s the link.

    http://www.sportscity.com/nhl/2010-nhl-unrestricted-free-agents-by-position/#Goalie

  137. ManApart says:

    Vinny is a lot better than Gomez, but that contract is just crazy. Bo-Bo’s move of bringing in Gomez and giving out huge overpayed contracts like candy, has handcuffed this team from doing anything to improve itself this summer. They’ve actually regressed. Big dumb contracts, just are a killer in today’s NHL.

  138. mike g says:

    I’d say…

    “Because Vinny has a contrcat that will still be valid once all of humanity is extinct, you’ll have to include Brett Connoly in the deal.”

    Stevie will probably say, “Hahaha, you’re a funny guy. Not a chance”.

    Then I’ll say, “Hahahaha, back to you. Keep the guy on your books till 2056.”

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  139. Bob Barker says:

    Yeah Lecavalier is certainly a much better offensive player than Gomez. I think/hope he’ll revert back to being above a point-per-game this season. His contract is brutal though in terms of both cap hit an length. As others have mentioned, at least Gomez’s contract comes off the books in 4 years. Having Vinny with 7.7 million cap hit until 2020 definitely reduces his appeal. 

  140. Former Jets Fan says:

    I’m very much in agreement.  I really like Gomez’ game too.  In a salary cap-less NHL, I don’t think there’s any debating that Lecavalier >>>>> Gomez.

    But in a cap world, giving a 29 year old a decade-long deal is something I’d expect from the Islanders and no one else.  Brian Lawton was SO lucky his team did well in the lottery.  But then again, if that doesn’t happen, he might not even have been around long enough to give Vinny that deal.

  141. TripleX says:

    Chicago is in a real deep manure pile.

    $3,613,410 left in cap space and only 14 roster players signed.

    It is laughable and sad at the same time as I really like the Hawks and the rejuvenation of hockey in Chicago.  The NHL has to revise the CBA to allow Cup winning teams the ability not to get torn apart the following season.

  142. JSP1990 says:

    Does anyone have ANY info at all about the contract talks with Price? I mean how much longer can this realistically go on?

  143. Anonymous says:

    What was your 09-10 Game plan?

  144. Slovak says:

    TO:  JIMVINNY 

    again:

    “Sympathy not only includes empathizing, but also entails having a positive regard or a non-fleeting concern for the other person.”

    I am not natural english speaker but in Slovak language it means the same and sympathy is for sure not more close to “pity” at all – yes it includes it aslo as it incliudes empathizing…

    Hope you understand and I hope you are human too :-)

  145. ed lopaz says:

    Rinne signed at 3.4

    Hiller signed at 4.5

  146. TripleX says:

    Nah, he has me dead in the water.  I can admit when I make a mistake. xP

  147. Bob Barker says:

    I don’t think anyone would consider Toskala a first-string goalie anymore. 

  148. HabFanSince72 says:

    Yeah well they tanked to win that cup, so screw’em.

     

  149. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Could end tomorrow, could end in September. Doesn’t really make much of a difference.

  150. JSP1990 says:

    I agree TripleX. They were one of the most exciting teams in the league and now the team is gettin sold off like it’s a yard sale down the street. It just doesn’t seem fair. Of course the Campbell contract isn’t helping much, but still. There has to be somethin that can be done.

  151. ed lopaz says:

    I agree – all 3 guys left stink!

  152. likehoy says:

    anyone make the travel to brossard for the rookie scrim? 

    way too much effort in this rain for me.

  153. bwoar says:

    Wow that is happy horsecrap.  The CBA does NOTHING to break up teams who win cups.  GMs who sign huge undesirable contracts reap what they sow.  Too bad for the Chicago fans, maybe they’ll cry a tear in the beer that is flowing from their Stanley Cup Champion mugs.

  154. JIMVINNY says:

    That’s fine bro, I said that I agree.  Dictionary definition aside, sympathy and empathy are not used interchangeably.  Not in real life english anyways. 

     

    All that language stuff aside, my point was that neither had anything to do with the decision to trade Halak. 

  155. bwoar says:

    How about, gee I dunno, better cap management?

    Did Pittsburgh trade Crosby, Staal, Malkin, Gonchar and Fleury after winning the Cup?

  156. JSP1990 says:

    Guess I’m just the impatient type. lol

  157. Rugger says:

    Than I would consider not matching and buying one of the available UFA’s

  158. Anonymous says:

    “One and done, thats what I always say, well, I said that once”

  159. likehoy says:

    does anyone think with a healthy gionta and a rejuvenated pouliot, gomez might put up more than 65pts this year?

  160. Anonymous says:

    They should have. What have they done for them lately other than blowing the MTL series? Those were the key players that lost them another shot.

  161. Rugger says:

    No, one albatross contract for a larger albatross contract does not work for me.

  162. andrewberkshire says:

    I think both our top 2 centers will be in the 70-75 point range.

  163. JSP1990 says:

    That’s a very good point bwoar. The Pens kept that team together no problem. And then they went out and vastly improved their D-corps after losing Gonchar. It is all about not signing dumb contracts. The Huet and Campbell contracts come to mind. As well as not getting the qualifying offers in for all the RFAs last summer. That’s the difference between getting one Cup and maybe getting three or four down the rode.

  164. Danno says:

    He’s holding out for a solid-gold hat and a lifetime supply of apricot nectar.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  165. Exit716 says:

    The Blackhawks should get a cap exemption because Dale Tallon signed laughable contracts with Huet the Jr. C goalie and Brian The AHL defenseman Campbell?

    Bury them in the minors.

     

  166. TripleX says:

    Wow you guys are harsh!  LMAO

  167. JSP1990 says:

    Well there is that rumor blowin around that they may trade Malkin. Gotta get wingers eventually. But I think the Pens took us lightly. Big mistake as we all know.

  168. JSP1990 says:

    Ahh I see. Well I’d take the solid-gold hat. I could get somethin for that around these parts and finally get me that PK jersey!

  169. bwoar says:

    The fly in the ointment there is that the Pens still have buckshee on the wings, no one to pass to.

    But in the end I think we’ll see a lot more Chicagos.  It’s such a damn hard league to win a championship in, the postseason is so dicey, that many (if not most) GMs see loading up, winning, and blowing up to be a perfectly valid strategy.

    I dunno, it’s cool to plan for 2-3 Cups but a team that gets ONE and still has Toews, Kane, Sharp, Keith, & Seabrook is gonna stay exciting for quite a while too.

  170. JSP1990 says:

    Gotta keep it real right TripleX? lmao

  171. mike g says:

    I think 65 pts is a good total for Scotty G…

    70 points is a maximum, due in large part to the pk minutes he plays. Alot of people overlook how tough pk minutes are, they demand alot out of a player.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  172. JSP1990 says:

    Exactly. The Pens have NOTHING at wing. That’s why Crosby was shooting so much more this year. It was like he had to to be able to win games. But they do have a couple of promising young wingers in their system. But they have to hope they pan out. If not, it could get ugly in Pittsburgh.

    Chicago is a whole different animal though. You’re right, it may be nice to plan for multiple Cups, but it isn’t somethin that can be easily done anymore. But the future certainly isn’t THAT bleak when you figure they have all those players still that’s for sure!

  173. WarHero says:

    I certainly do :)

    ————————————————————————

    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  174. likehoy says:

    never go full rtrd

  175. HabFanSince72 says:

    Of course, if Vinny retires at 35 the contract disappears.

     

  176. Les Habitants says:

    Yeah, I know what the the cup looked like in 67( just like it is today)

    Just a over exaggeration to highlight the fact that the laffs have gone a really long time without one.

     

    The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!*

    *not historically accurate(happy! ;) )

  177. rogus says:

    Hinges heavily on Pouliot. If he’s the same guy that showed up from Minny, then we’re set. If it’s the guy that made AK47 look like a hard worker in the playoff’s, then no. My bet is Eller replaces Pouliot on that line by Chrstmas.

  178. ManApart says:

    Possible of course, but I think 65 points is his ceiling unfortuneatly. What’s the over/under on him scoring 15 goals lol.

  179. rogus says:

    If Lecavalier wanted to play here, he would have signed here. If he did it for the money and to avoid the pressure cooker that is Montreal, I say let him rot. For years we have been seeking the next Beliveau. Wearing number 4 and choosing to play elsewhere is a travesty!!!

  180. ManApart says:

    Not sure why some of the posters on here don’t seem to get that.

  181. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Never, both players offer the same production except you would have Vinny’s contract for an extra 10 years, plus the added pressure of being the “Francophone Superstar” in Montreal, I’m sure he’s quite content with his “gogounes” in Tampa.

  182. punkster says:

    No. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_u7VGiMO0U

    (You must be having the most boring day at work to ask this THF. I mean what universe are you from ;)

    FREE TIMO!

  183. sidhu says:

    Spector’s is reporting that Columbus is still looking for a “puck moving defenseman” and that the team’s options are limited — Vancouver is fielding other offers for Bieksa, Souray is “risky,” and C-Bus would want assurance they could sign Kaberle long-term.

    Do the Habs step in?

    Would you do AK46 (3.25, RFA next year) and Hammer (5.5, UFA next year) for Umberger (3.75, signed for two years) and Commodore (3.75, signed for three years)?

  184. nick says:

    Ok this isn’t hockey, although given the number of die hard fans around here, I’d like to hear some opinions.

    When the Cavs GM spoke of Lebron, he used the phrase “cowardly betrayl”, a “deserter”.

    I don’t know enough about basketball these days, granted… Although given that Lebron spent 7 years with the Cavs, only got to the finals once (not to mention dragged the rest of the team there single handedly). Where does a GM get off calling anyone – anything, after they’ve decided to move on? Especially after a player gives a team 7 years to get it’s collective crap together…

  185. mike g says:

    I never go full retard..

    I’ve only done it once, and it was today when someone posted something about Guillaume. I can’t stand the douche, so I went full retard and even insulted poutines.

    I should have never done that, poutines are insanely great. I regret it so badly, lol…

     

    These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  186. crabvader says:

    I don’t think they had Hamr in mind when they meant puck-moving d-man.

  187. Bugs says:

    Markov for Nash. Pow! Let’s go. Let’s do this.

    No, no, no. No chitchat, no backtalk. Let’s just do this thing and get it done and we can talk about it tomorrow.

    Boom.

    Let’s go.

    Problem solved. Gooooo, Blue-Jackets!

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  188. crabvader says:

    He’s just mad his team is going to wallow back into obscurity.

  189. Favorite Son says:

    Where is the puck moving defenceman Columbus would get? Hamrlik? They would never do that trade, although I like it from the Habs’ perspective.

  190. TripleX says:

    Probably due to the fact that LeBron is a home town boy and might have felt some loyalty to Cleveland.  

    Probably due to the fact that LeBron did not return a single phone call or text since the season ended.

    Probably due to the fact that LeBron lacks any sense of decorum, awareness or thought of what is happening in his city, empathy and reeks of arrogance and self entitlement.  

    I can’t stand people who refer to themselves in the THIRD PERSON like THE KING!

  191. HabFanSince72 says:

    Actually Vinny has never failed to outscore Gomez significantly.

     

  192. mike g says:

    He’s just pissed for one reason…

    Who the fcuk is gonna buy ANYTHING of the Cavaliers now?!!

    lol

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  193. Slovak says:

    TO:  JIMVINNY

     

    “Sympathy is a social affinity in which one person stands with another person, closely understanding his or her feelings. Also known as empathic concern, it is the feeling of compassion or concern for another, the wish to see them better off or happier. Although empathy and sympathy are often used interchangeably, a subtle variation in ordinary usage can be detected. To empathize is to respond to another’s perceived emotional state by experiencing feelings of a similar sort.[1] Sympathy not only includes empathizing, but also entails having a positive regard or a non-fleeting concern for the other person.[2]

     

    Now tell me, shouldn’t sympathy take a huge role in every real friendship? If you are human of course…

  194. avatar_58 says:

    While Lebron is clearly a douche so too is this whiney owner if you ask me.

  195. SeriousFan09 says:

    Relations between CHI and SJ just went below absolute zero, TSN’s Bob Mackenzie tweets that they’ve offered and signed Niklas Hjalmarsson a 4-year, 14 million dollar offer sheet. CHI has 7 days to match.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  196. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Vinny’s career pt per game stat is .85 and Gomer is at .81, not that big a diferrence, not so much to label Vinny as “way” better as some are doing below. Nothing against him, I think he is a great player, just a little overated in La Belle Province, plus he would have the added pressure here, so no thanks.

  197. TripleX says:

    Wow the dogs smell blood in Chicago!  

    The gentleman’s agreement over offer sheets is now off the table.

  198. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Does that seem high to you? I wouldn’t have thought Hjalmarsson was worth $3.5m/yr. That’s a pretty high salary in this market, no?

  199. ooder says:

    ya i saw that.. oh well at least chicago still holds the “i swept you” card

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  200. HabFanSince72 says:

    Good for SJ. At least they are not engaging in the old boys club collusion.

    The 1st round pick they send to Chicago is unlikely to be very high.

     

  201. HabFanSince72 says:

    Same as Spacek.

     

  202. SeriousFan09 says:

    Hjalmarsson is considered the up-and-comer D in the CHI organization and I think SJ after failing to make any moves in free agency are trying to address the defensive depth they lost with the Rob Blake retirement. Team’s getting more desperate to solve the issue of consistent playoff failure I would suspect.

    Granted, now they’ve screwed themselves on ever having good relations with CHI.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  203. Chorske says:

    A western rivalry that has just been dialed up a few notches. Chicago will take the picks.

    Look, the owners should have seen this coming when they agreed to this CBA. A gentleman’s agreement among the owners is nothing short of collusion- a way of circumventing the CBA that may have seemed gentlemanly from the owners’ perspective, but was a shaft for the players.

    Chicago can’t afford to match, they will take the picks and nurse their wounds and (hopefully) a healthy grudge.

  204. mike g says:

    WOW….

    Smart and dumb move by SJ. Smart because Nik’s a solid d-man, and that’s not a bad cap hit. Dumb because they’re stealing Lebron’s “day after” spotlight.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  205. TripleX says:

    Yeah i would not care to share a cold beer with either one.

  206. andrewberkshire says:

    Except Spacek has a pedigree of being a very good offensive player. Hjalmarsson is basically european Josh Gorges.

  207. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Yeah, I just looked at the remaining UFA defencemen, and there’s not much left out there is there?

    (and now how long do we have to wait before somebody uses this as proof that Price is totally going to get an offer sheet and that Gauthier is the worst GM ever!! or at least since Gainey?) :D

  208. adam76 says:

    I thought it was sad.  HE WAS THE REASON LEBRON WALKED.  The NBA is turning into the WWE.

  209. Chorske says:

    But you’re not talking contract. I am perfectly willing to believe that MTL is willing to overpay a player. Heck, they do it all the time, even with players that haven’t been anointed the Last Goaltender. I am perfectly willing to believe the Habs will throw sick and inappropriate amounts of cash to Price.

    In fact, you were talking offer sheet. And in an offer sheet scenario, the other team has to value Price AT LEAST AS MUCH as the Habs do. And alls I can say is: such a team does not exist right now, for the reasons I outline above.

  210. Chorske says:

    Hjallmarson was victimized on several occasions during the Philly series, and I remember him being completely turned around and out of his depth on several occasions. I didn’t think he was that brilliant during the playoffs. If I’m Chicago, matching doesn’t make an ounce of sense. I kind of get the move from the Sharks perspective- if our blueline is old, theirs is cadaverous (and kinda sucked in the playoffs), so they wanted to add some youth… and I guess they do so well during the regular season that their 1st round picks are rarely good enough to be sure things.

  211. Chorske says:

    I think Gorges is the better dman, actually.

  212. 100HABS says:

    I was just about to post that (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=327071)

    I find offer sheets like playing dirty pool. They know the Hawks are having cap problems so they take advantage by stealing a D-man by overpaying him somewhat. The kid’s 23 and has great potential.

    At least if someone does it for Price, he was a 1st rounder so we get three 1st round picks for him.

  213. krob1000 says:

    I thought sharks would have worked better

  214. 100HABS says:

    I might actually take that, but I would think about it a little…

  215. gauver says:

    As a Hab fan, I would make that deal.  I cannot see how this is a good deal for Columbus.

  216. SeriousFan09 says:

    Agree that matching the offer doesn’t work for CHI. They’re gearing up for a return to the Cup Finals in 2-3 years and they’ve already got a couple Ds rated at Hjalmarsson’s grade on Their Top 5 prospects at Hockey’s Future and that’s before they drafted 10 guys this year. They can replace Hjalmarsson and do it with a cap-friendly contract, with Keith’s, Seabrook’s and Campbell’s salary, they need some wiggle room at defence.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  217. TripleX says:

    Damn it you are so right!  How did I miss that one?

    Shame on me.

  218. SeriousFan09 says:

    To be fair, Gorges also has 3 years on Hjalmarsson.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  219. SlovakHab says:

    When did the Habs propose Price, Plekanec and Gorges trade for Vinny? 1 year ago?

    Does anyone have more details?

  220. joeybarrie says:

    Price Pleks, and Gorges???????   NEVER.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  221. avatar_58 says:

    Pardon moi but I rank Gorges higher than Spacek. People go on and on about Spacek’s shot yet where was it all year? We wouldn’t have seen MAB signed if it were used.

  222. likehoy says:

    bowman says hjalmarsson would be the best dman in the league in the future…

  223. GuyDoon says:

    At the time, Bob McKenzie was reporting this:

    What the deal might end up being is anybody’s guess, but sources in Montreal say the actual offer the Canadiens have put on the table for Lecavalier does NOT include defenceman Mike Komisarek, nor is it likely to, but would see Tomas Plekanec, Chris Higgins, prospect P.K. Subban, Josh Gorges and a package of draft picks including more than one first-round pick going to Tampa“.

    Looking at it now, you have to be happy the trade didn’t happen!

  224. andrewberkshire says:

    Well, ummm. That was a bad time to get groceries in Montreal.

  225. Chorske says:

    I totally disagree! The system is built into the CBA, but the owners have been playing dirty pool by restraining themselves from making offers.

    Chicago could have stayed out of this mess by being more responsible cap-wise. If they are over a barrel right now, it’s because of the huge contracts they have doled out in recent years. The CBA system is designed to “right” these kinds of imbalances, and I think it’s about time that someone played the system right.

    If Price gets an offer sheet, I’ll eat my monitor.

  226. GuyDoon says:

    LOL. Price is getting as much mileage out of that comment as Gainey did from Tikhonov calling him “the best player on the world”.

  227. likehoy says:

    when was that reported?

    price was traded on draft day for lecavalier…then the trade was veto’d by one of the owners of the lightning.

  228. krob1000 says:

    I know there is a taboo against tams signing players to offer sheets but is there a taboo about signing an offer sheet as a player? How awkward is it to go back to your team after signing an offer sheet? especially in this case as it probably means another teammate has to leave town.  Why does noone ever talk about it from that perspective? They blame the GM’s but the player has to sing the offer sheet.  Just some food for thought seeing as though a completely free agent had his basketball jersey burned last night…if Hjalmarsson were higher profile…or in a high profile position like say …a gaoltender in Montreal named Carey Price…how would this be viewed?

  229. andrewberkshire says:

    I think he is too, but would you pay Gorges 3.5 per? I wouldn’t.

  230. Chorske says:

    It’s gonna be like that all afternoon, on and off. Cooler tonight, tho, which will be nice.

    From my office on the 7th floor here at Env Can, it looked like the world had been tipped sideways. Everything was horizontal for about five minutes.

  231. SeriousFan09 says:

    Actually the comment from Tikhonov was  “Technically, the most complete player in the world.” Which as a defensive forward, was a very accurate description.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  232. andrewberkshire says:

    Spacek had a terrible offensive year, however he was playing his off side all season long. Not exactly an easy transition. I’m not so sure I rate Gorges ahead of Spacek. Endurance wise for sure, but offensively Spacek is way better, even if he isn’t scoring.

  233. Propwash says:

    Lol, everyone at my work stopped and stared outside.

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  234. andrewberkshire says:

    I thought I would try and beat the rain and get the groceries now, and on my way out i felt a couple drops and thought, “this isn’t going to be good”. Sure enough as the cashier rang me through a thunder clap was followed by a biblical flood… There was a crowd of people at the doors too afraid to go out for some reason, so i just bolted.

  235. andrewberkshire says:

    Good post. Most players would be instantly forgiven by people on HIO, but Price would be slaughtered endlessly.

  236. cunningdave says:

    $2 Million?  Montreal Police needs to look at the Toronto G20 model.  There’s profit to be made!

  237. mike g says:

    Exactly…

    Too bad for them. They swiped the credit card way too many times over the past few years. They maxed it out, took out loans on it with crazy interest, and now they must pay for it.

    The rules were there. The consequences were pointed out by all, and the Hawks were warned. They ignored every single hint of trouble, and now they’re demolishing the best team on the planet.

    Too bad, so sad? Not really…..

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  238. Chorske says:

    oh GAWD no. I wasn’t suggesting Gorges should be paid more- I was saying that Hjalmarsson should be paid less than Gorges.

    But since when do NHL salaries actually make an ounce of sense?

  239. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Reports that Nabakov is headed back to Russia.  Not sure if that is old news as I’ve been away the past few days, but here it is:

     

    http://www.nhlpa.com/News/Newswire/EB5F8F43-F3B7-4330-BBA0-E8250285021F/Report-Former-Sharks-G-Nabokov-heading-to-Russia

  240. GuyDoon says:

    Jan 12, 2009: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=262987

    I can’t find anything on the draft day trade – only denials (wink, wink, nudge, nudge). Althoguh I did find this little gem: “The Montreal Canadiens have begun talks to grab Lecavalier in exchange for Jaroslav Spacek and Travis Moen” – NY Post.

  241. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    I don’t think Price was included in that rumour

  242. avatar_58 says:

    If that happened I’d very very angry. I don’t share the irrational love for french players and Vinny is nothing special.

  243. avatar_58 says:

    Not this year – we have to see where Subban is at. It would HUGE if Montreal lost Markov and the D never recovered. :(

  244. TripleX says:

    Halak, Pleks or any other key player on the Montreal roster would have been burned in effigy not just Price.

    What is this obsession with the idea that Price is being treated unfairly?  Price is a big boy and all he has to do to shut up all the critics is PERFORM.  In that respect he is no different from any other professional athlete.

  245. 100HABS says:

    Is that a 19″ like me? Gotta admit, I’d love to see that.

    But you’re right, the goalie market has been strangely low this year. I don’t understand it, it seems you get one year where the two finalist goalies are not really special and everybody forgets what Roy, Brodeur, and Hasek did in the past to take mediocre teams to the final dance.

  246. 100HABS says:

    It would be a good deal for Columbus, You underrate Markov.

  247. andrewberkshire says:

    I’m hoping Gorges negotiates as honestly as he plays, and we can get him for a fair price, because I really don’t want to lose him!

  248. WarHero says:

    No way, I watched Commodore play  here in Ottawa. He totally is not worth the coin CBJ is paying him, not even close. lol

    ————————————————————————

    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  249. TripleX says:

    Montreal has 19 players signed with $5,628,273 left.

    Rangers have 21 players signed with $4,565,833 left.

     

    HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?

  250. TripleX says:

    Lats talking right now on Team990.

  251. krob1000 says:

    Quite safe to say the obsession is yours.  My point was about the offer sheets and that noone looks at it as a betrayal from a player but lambastes the gm’s.  I was suggesting that if a higher profile player does this the tables may be turned and the heat may go to the player instead of the GM’s…..and then…perhaps it loses it’s stigma? who knows? is everyone involved tarnished? that was the point…but I apologize for typing either the word Price or Halak as I know it tends to set off some ticking time bombs on here.  Geez….

  252. Chorske says:

    The easy solution is to name Gorges captain. The Habs would never get rid of a captain, would they? Er.

  253. HabFanSince72 says:

    That’s ridiculous. Vinny most definitely is a special player. Not the same since that injury.

  254. Jean4 says:

    NHL Offer Sheets and Compensation:

    Below $863,156 – No Compensation
    $863,156 to $1,307,812 – 3rd round pick
    $1,307,812 to $2,615,625 – 2nd round pick
    $2,615,625 to $3,923,437 – 1st and 3rd round picks
    $3,923,437 to $5,231,249 – 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks
    $5,231,249 to $6,539,062 – Two 1st round, one 2nd round and one 3rd round picks
    $6,539,062 and up – Four 1st round picks

  255. JIMVINNY says:

    Except that I clearly do know the difference, and clearly do care.  Anyways, none of your concern.  Older conversation.  Please move along.

  256. krob1000 says:

    The Rangers have 5 players signed for over 5 million Lundqvist 6.9, Redden 6.5, rosival 5, drury 7 and gaborik at 7.  Some seriously awful contracts in there but ….they have noone else on their entire team that makesmore than 2.3 million….they have no mid price signings where we have AK46 and Spacek.  We also have 4 forwards making 5 million and two dmen.  They are going to have to give Marc Staal a serious raise though.

  257. Jean4 says:

    It would either leave Habs with no cap room period if they signed him or with no goalie if they didn’t. In in the first case a worse goalie than the winning goalie they traded away.

  258. TripleX says:

    Funny how you seem to have a problem with my response but not AndrewBershire.  Just saying dude.

  259. Rugger says:

    That would be good too!

  260. andrewberkshire says:

    You can have 23 players on your roster in the NHL, 50 total contracts between NHL and AHL.

  261. avatar_58 says:

    Of course, but BECAUSE of that injury he’s not worth as much as his contract suggests. We already have one ridiculously overpaid forward, we don’t need two.

    I also don’t see how Subban, Price AND Plek wouldn’t make you a bigger winner than a team with Vinny.

  262. avatar_58 says:

    So…..habs wallpapers? Other than the habs website of course? I’m tired of my current wallpapers at work and home. Need something with Subban, Price in his centennial gear, etc etc

  263. ZepFan2 says:

    This is what I found:

    “Sources say there was a deal in place last June to trade Lecavalier to
    the Montreal Canadiens for goalie Carey Price, center Tomas Plekanec and
    a prospect
    , but the deal was blocked by Bettman after Barrie refused to
    approve the deal. That caused a rift between Barrie and Koules that
    continued to fester and, combined with the financial problems both
    owners were having, put the Lightning in a state of flux.”

    Bettman blocked Lecavalier deal

    Not Gorges, but most likely PK.

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    - Sam Pollock

  264. sidhu says:

    Okay folks — some of you commented that AK46 and Hammer for Umberger and Commodore 1) would not be good for us because Commodore is overpaid, or 2) would be good for us, but would not be accepted by C-Bus because  Hammer is not a “puck moving defenseman.”

    How does this sit with you:

    Weber (612k, RFA next season) and AK46 (3.25m, RFA next season) for Umberger (3.75m, UFA in two seasons)

  265. Jean4 says:

    Didn’t Bowman also say Price was the right choice to keep? And at an offer of just $2.6 million all it would cost the other team is a 2nd round pick.

  266. SlovakHab says:

    How would that help?

  267. JIMVINNY says:

    @ Slovak – Clearly, the misunderstanding is one of semantics.  the word sympathy is typically used more closely in conjunction with pity, which no, I don’t think should be a basis for friendship.  Empathy, on the other hand, should. So if that’s what you meant, I agree, but still maintain that neither had anything whatsoever to do with the decision to trade Halak.

     

    And questioning whether I’m human or not has no standing whatsoever.

  268. oshawahabsfan says:

    Woops I read that one title as “Ian Schultz wants to eliminate Milan Lucic”

  269. krob1000 says:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/36589-the-offer-sheet-and-the-restricted-free-agent-a-return-to-the-nhl

    Interesting read on offer sheets…I forgot way back when that Sakic and Federov, Scott Stevens, Teemu Selanne,etc all signed offer sheets. 

  270. krob1000 says:

    I didn’t take his as a Price vs Halak thing….I took his as yes if it happened to Price it would change things and people in Montreal would be outraged with Price instead of the opposing GM.  I guess that was my point….when the players are not too high profile it doesn’t get viewed from that perspective but if/when a high profile guy does get an offer sheet…..will it turn the tables? I was using Price as he has a very divided fanbase because he plays in a high profile postiion as a goalie in Montreal…..if it were him…I bet the table s would be turned…and maybe they should be.  I don’t really know because it has never really happened but in Chicago’s case this will lead to either another Hawk casualty or Hjalmaarsson leaving….he hasn;t ben around long enough to have too huge of a fanbase or draw much negative scorn either way IMO. Price…now that would be wild and the possibility is still very much alive and well….it is really quite a fascinating potential scenario. I think all it will take is one marquee player or higher profile guy and then you will see a change…the cap is so tight and the competition is going to get fierce and the poaching of RFA’s seems inevitable to me down the road…I am actually surprised it doesn;t  already happen more but in the current landscape …I can’t see it alsting much longer…this respect thing.  The rules have changed with salaries and this just may become a necessary “evil”.

  271. JIMVINNY says:

    No thanks!!!  Aside from one playoff series where he ripped us apart, Umberger is not better than Andrei.  Besides, I believe Andrei deserves a chance to show us what he can do away from his brother before we give up on him.

  272. GuyDoon says:

    Boston Bruins sign D Stewart to 1yr/1.6M contract. They now have 18 players signed and 1.6M in cap space. Something’s gotta give there too! If they try to trade Savard, Thomas, or Ryder, as is being reported in Beantown, then they can’t take money back. Thomas for Gagne (one suggested scenario) cannot happen unless the bruins send someone else along; and it can’t be Philly because they don’t have the space either. How will they find money to re-up Chara and Bergeron next year?

  273. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Wait, so the RFA’s salary determines the number of picks given in return, right? If that’s the case how come for a player like Hjalmarsson who has received an offer for 3.5 M, Hawks get a 1st and 3rd in return, and if Price is given an offer of 2.6, Montreal only gets 2nd in return?

    Difference of 0.9 M in salary, and a HUGE difference in the return.

  274. JIMVINNY says:

    Or maybe Berkshire just doesn’t care enough about your opinion to respond.  A big assumption on my part, of course, but no bigger than you assuming he’s okay with it. 

    Just sayin’, dude.

  275. SeriousFan09 says:

    With Seguin signed and Joe Colbourne in their system, they’ll deal Bergeron at the trade deadline if possible or let him walk, Chara’s more important and Bergeron’s concussion issues have hampered his NHL potential.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  276. Jean4 says:

    That’s correct and Montreal is in the same cap situation with Price sitting out there as a RFA. Best time to strike.

  277. nickster13 says:

    you’re an animal! even anglos dont know the difference between sympathy and empathy, so i wouldnt expect people to care about which one they are using

  278. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Haha, jerk move by the Sharks. But the Hawks have SOO many draft picks for next year, wow!

  279. adam76 says:

    GO HABS GO!

  280. HabFanSince72 says:

    Ryder for a Zamboni and some practice cones.

  281. adamkennelly says:

    I have said this before..AK, Hammer and any non first round prospect not named PK for Umberger and Boll..we get the top 6 size with scoring touch and decently skilled toughness for bottom size, plus and overall attitude adjustment and $$$ savings.

  282. Caper says:

    Thank you for  seeing the glass 1/2 full. I would include Desjardins and Tinordi as well. Possibly Schultz too.

  283. Bob Barker says:

    I’d rank Horton ahead of Recchi at this point in his career. Ryder will be a UFA next summer. I can see them trying to trade Savard for another winger or have Colborne play the wing. Krejc and Seguin will likely be their top 6 centers they’ll  build around. 

  284. j2w4habs25 says:

    No way!! Carey is ours… no one esles, no matter how much money they throw at him.

  285. LA Loyalist says:

    How do you discern that Gauthier isn’t stupid. It’s not on the evidence. The only good thing we’ve done is draft Tinordi, which was probably in the works long before Gauthier too over. I’m not trying to give you a hard time, just looking for a cogent explanation.

     

    The longer you drive in a circle the more you keep seeing the same statue.

  286. RC-51 says:

    Not sure if this has been mentioned here yet,

    Eklund’s latest :

    “The Canadiens are rumored to be possibly putting an offer sheet together for a forward..can’t confirm if that forward is Bobby Ryan, but one source believes it to be the case.”

  287. j2w4habs25 says:

    I got a question for whoever it may concern.

    Its about that “La Presse reports extra police for the playoffs cost $2 million” Artical.

    I dont know any french but when a Leafs fan transolated that, it didnt sound true

    I was told today that we were crazy and we always have to go all out for the littlest reasons, its something I believed lol, but my dad who comes from a large family of Leafs Fans, told me that the Police was charging the Canadiens Organization for the riots/damages – So its the reason why the Canadiens Organization raised the seating prices, but when I thought it was because of the good playoff run. If this is right, then I guess Leaf fans really do know alot of the Canadiens heheh

    but i was just carious… someone tell me

  288. Caper says:

    Just what we need. Another head case from Russia. His teammates in Columbus and N.Y. disliked him. We just got rid of Sookgei K. Why would you even think that this would be a good idea? No thanks.

  289. Jean4 says:

    He is very accurate with what he posts.

  290. alestar says:

    Sounds nebulous…I doubt they gave the Habs a bill for the riots/damage…but I wouldn’t put it past some marketing weasel to use it as justification to raise the beer prices to $15 a cup next season…

     

    XXIV…and counting

  291. alestar says:

    Max Lapierre?

     

    XXIV…and counting

  292. Adam says:

    Just wondering, if you’d have signed Halak, how would you have payed for Pleks? And how exactly would you convince the other GM’s to give you a superstar when the market clearly is not there for goalies? And once you got said superstar, how would you have mustered up the cap space to pay him?

    And of course, we only got “farmhands.” Eller clearly sucks, which is why most people project him to be an NHL 2nd line center.

    I’m okay with criticism of the team, but please put a bit of thought into it.

  293. alestar says:

    Its half filter anyways…

     

    XXIV…and counting

  294. Caper says:

    Pierre Dagenais.

  295. alestar says:

    I have nothing against Gomez, and even feel that his aquisition paved the way to some real FA signings…but can I get a glass of that Bordeaux when you crack it? I could bring a 1982 Ferreira LBV….

     

    XXIV…and counting

  296. alestar says:

    Serge Boisvert is making a comeback….

     

    XXIV…and counting

  297. Caper says:

    #12 -1986? What about Dave Maley?

  298. alestar says:

    Schultz as the next Lucic?

     

    If he beats the snot out of Komi in the first game of the season against the Laffs, I’ll be a believer!

     

    XXIV…and counting

  299. habs4last says:

    well Chicago diodn’t have a great goalie and they still won the cup.

    you don’t need a great gopalie if your D is good and you can score. just ask Chicago.

  300. habs4last says:

    I’ll still take Philly’s team in a heartbeat over our  AHL team. that’s exactly what we have. excvept for 3 NHL players, the rest are all 4th liners, and that’s exactly what PG wants. a cheap no talent team, that won’t compete.

    habs will be damn lucky to finish in 10th place. more likely 13th!

  301. Bugs says:

    What about an offer sheet for Crosby? Why can’t we put down an offer sheet for Crosby? I say we put in an offer sheet for Crosby.

    I don’t care about rules. I don’t care about contracts. All I care about is an offer sheet for Crosby.

    C’mon! Let’s just DO IT and work out the “rules” and “regulations” and whatnot for laters.

    …bobby ryan…

    Dealin in BEADS over here, what!

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  302. alestar says:

    #8  awesome…need to have Bill Root on D!

     

    XXIV…and counting

  303. Bugs says:

    And Pierre Gauthier will assassinate Taylor Hall.

    They wanna play rough? Let’s play rough.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  304. dudurules says:

    how does Philly afford Zerdev and trade Gagne? Plz someone ezxplain?

  305. Jean4 says:

    They better do something whether by trade or this if were true because it’s going to be a long and disappointing season here because of the little has been done so far as all around improved.

  306. Bugs says:

    CODE RED!
    We have a Code Red Alert! Infidel leaf under the wire! This is not a drill! Code Red! Enemy leaf on the grounds! Full-Sector Search Protocol activated! All Partisans to comply with Officers of the Flannel! Code Red Emergency! Nemesis leaf has bypassed defences! Sanitization Protocol activated! Code Red Alert! Immediate Retrieval and Removal Priority One! Code Red! This is not a drill! Alert, Alert, Alert! Jealous leaf through the Gate! Purification Protocol activated! You have 2 minutes to reach Minimal Safe Distance before the release of radioactive leaf-eating caterpillars! This is a Code Red!
    1:58, 1:57, 1:56…
    CODE RED EMERGENCY!

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  307. Caper says:

    Carcillo? Laps and that idiot on the same line. Now that would be fun to watch.

  308. Caper says:

    LOL! Pair him with Rick Chartraw.

  309. Jean4 says:

    thats the problem its been half full for too long – and that does not get the job done.

  310. Caper says:

    With a vegimatic.

  311. Caper says:

    I can’t. That picture is distracting. Where can i get that for my wife?

  312. dudurules says:

    lol.. that IS my wife

  313. Caper says:

    LOL! Komi at $6mm this year. Loser.

  314. Jean4 says:

    not at all. but should have been improved like all teams do at trade deadlines and free agencies and by trade when they are trying to compete for more than the mediocrity of 8th place.

  315. Caper says:

    Lucky you.

  316. Jean4 says:

    you’re wrong! without halak habs never would have even made the playoffs.

  317. Caper says:

    I assume you mean Komi himself and yes I can’t disagree. New comment-Burke is a loser.

  318. dudurules says:

    once yur married that’s as close as i get,…….. k so… what about this Philly situation?  Gotta move Gagne to get under cap but the sign a $2.5 – $3 mill player?

  319. dudurules says:

    ya cuz you guys would loose your minds… talk hockey one handers!

  320. Jean4 says:

    how were they able to add pronger last year? their capologist knows what he is doing.

  321. Toe Blake says:

    The boys at RADIO FREE TIMO (RFT) were able to make contact with me from the great rink in the sky. I await your questions.

  322. HabFanSince72 says:

    I’ll still take Philly’s team in a heartbeat

     

    No one is holding you back.

     

  323. HabFanSince72 says:

    Apparently he’s OK.

  324. Toe Blake says:

    On the big team Chris? Probably not. I liked tough guys who could actually get me 20 goals per season like John Ferguson. Just thinking about you on that line with Jean Beliveau and Yvon Cournoyer seems like a violation of all that is holy. You did the job they asked you to do in your era, but frankly, I would have preferred Clark Gilles.

  325. Caper says:

    No way! I live outside of T.O. Most of my buddies are leaf fans and they don’t like many of his moves. Their D looks decent -on paper. Kaberle will be dealt and I believe they become weaker. Unless their goaltending stands on its head, they are headed for another playoff miss. The Monster and Giguere. No thanks. Look for Ron Wilson to be fired before Christmas . Boston picks up another nice draft pick. No top 6 forwards other than Kessel and Versteeg who is really a strong bottom 6. If they try to add a top 6 from trading Kaberle, i don;t believe it will be anything other than a 50 point guy like Ryan Clough of San Jose. Burke is like a used car salesman. Talks a good game but blows a lot of BS.

  326. RC-51 says:

    What ever happen to  Max Paccoriety?

  327. Caper says:

    Not true. For the first time it years it APPEARS that we have a few prospects that may make their way through the system.

  328. Bugs says:

    He decided to have his name changed apparently…

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  329. Toe Blake says:

    I thought about it up here in the great beyond and I have this feeling he is going to the Miami Heat.

  330. dudurules says:

    does anyone have any insight on here?  c’mon knuckles nilan.

  331. dudurules says:

    understatement of the year…

  332. Jean4 says:

    They will be fighting for a playoff spot in his 2nd full year. Both Eller and Palushaj were chosen by St. Louis in Round 1 and 2 in 2007 in slots Burke traded to San Jose in the Toskala trade.

  333. dudurules says:

    you must… you’re here no?  why waste your time then?  go have a wank to my avatar.

  334. RiverviewCanadien says:

    So Price and Lapierre both have not signed yet. I wonder if PG is planning something…personally I love the direction this team is taking right now. Not one person can predict how good or how bad this team will be, we never had a healthy lineup all year…lost Markov for almost an entire season…made it to the ECF!

    This team can be very elusive at times, you never know what they will do…seriously, you could not predict from 07-08, the team would be this transformed.

    I really think this team is in excellent hands now. I like how the Molsons are going to be “Hands-On” owners. They know hockey, and are smart businessmen. If you don’t think they want this team to succeed, you’re smokin’ something.

    Very cool, Atlantic Nationals are back here in Moncton this weekend (sucks it is going to rain). There are so many nice cars here.

    GO HABS GO!

  335. habsguy says:

    hummm,  looks like a guy in drag to me!!!

  336. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Are you still bitter Crosby scored the GWG to win gold.

    Now there is a player I wished the Habs had…you, weren’t you injury plagued in your last years? Why did the Habs take you back in the end?

    Gone swimming lately?

  337. dudurules says:

    k/.. yur clearly dumb

  338. Mad Habber says:

    What a fight? Without the words Halak and Price?…I must be losing my mind…

  339. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Flyers are 1.4 M above cap space. Looks like Gagne is going to get traded soon.

  340. habs4last says:

    excuse me, but Markov was back in the lineup Dec 1st. 2 months gone is NOT an entire season. It’s not even 1/2 a season!

  341. Mattyleg says:

    Heh heh.

    Good on San Jose. People moaning about ‘dirty pool’ make me chuckle.

    Never quite understood that concept; you’re not supposed to try to win by putting your opponent in a difficult position? If you’re smart enough to negotiate yourself into a good spot, surely you should be able to reap the rewards.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  342. ooder says:

    well it’s deffinately a good team if he wavied his NTC

    I doubt it’s columbus or some thing like that.

    hmm i will go crazy and say rangers

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  343. SeriousFan09 says:

    Rangers are good??? They need cap space to resign M. Staal anyway. I think he’ll be heading West.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  344. SeriousFan09 says:

    Markov returned Dec. 19th for a 3-0 win over the NYI and missed 35 games, close to half the season really.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  345. Harani says:

    Gagne just announced at his golf tournament that he’s been traded but he’s not allowed to say to which team. Any guesses? I think LA is a possibility.

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  346. RiverviewCanadien says:

    You missed the point but that is fine. I have already been called an idiot. Oops

  347. SeriousFan09 says:

    If it’s LA, Kovalchuk is right and screwed and will have to sign cheaper than he’d like with whoever might take him.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  348. PRICEBERG1 says:

    He has no one to blame but himself …..LOL ….

  349. Brian Burke says:

    People took offense to it because it was a clearly underage girl and your name is tripleX, dumbass.

  350. SeriousFan09 says:

    Getting a bit too used to scrolling these comments and seeing the crazy stuff I guess. These trolls are prompting me too skip over a bit when I read and I seem to be missing more than usual.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  351. ooder says:

    that was the joke… yeesh SF common man

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  352. naweed235 says:

    source?

  353. ooder says:

    and scored 2 goals in that game

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  354. TripleX says:

    It is based on the theory of bad Karma and that what goes around comes around.

    Once you open that pandora’s box then every team stands to suffer the same fate.  Just because you CAN do something does not always mean you SHOULD.

  355. TripleX says:

    NEVER put up a pic of your wife or girlfriend as an avatar dude.  I learned that lesson myself a while back.  A lot of people on HIO take great offense to it for some reason.

    She does look fine though.  xD

  356. blueline says:

    Lots have changed for the Habs since any of my last posts…except one thing. And that’s the level of muddle-headedness of the team’s general management.

    Personally, I would have chosen Halak over Price because of demonstrated skill, maturity and the confidence he generated among his team-mates. Many rightfully considered him a Conn Smythe candidate. They knew they could depend on him to make the big saves under pressure when one of them screwed up. Not so with Price. Due no doubt to team solidarity (and the players won’t admit it) but you could see in their faces and on-ice demeanour that the defencemen especially were terrified that if they made the slightest error with Price in the net, it would likely result in a goal. It doesn’t seem the best sort of way to build team morale for a serious run at the Cup does it?

    In any event, Gauthier (a true Gainey disciple unfortunately) opted to go with Price and “trade” Halak. Or should I say give him to the Blues for a couple of farmhands who’ll be lucky to even set foot in the Bell Centre sometime in the future.

     Hmm…I wonder if the NHL should have a special Generosity Award for the GM who donates so much talent to other league teams and receives so little in return. That would likely be the only trophy the Habs would likely compete for and win. But I digress.

    What is truly astounding is that the dumping of Halak was done BEFORE signing Price. For a GM who’s supposed to be all concerned about salary-cap space he’s left the vault door open for Price’s agent all because, except for the back-up Auld. the Habs presently don’t have a first-string goalie on the roster! Wouldn’t it have made much more business sense to sign Price before trading Halak? The way it stands now the Habs run the very real risk of having lost the services of all their premier netminders and will have to pay a premium to sign one.

    I’m guessing the only long-term hope for the Habs is for Geoff Molson to take control and boot the Boivin-Gauthier-Gainey clique out the door and get some real hockey men who know what they’re doing to run the team properly. In the meantime…….sigh.

  357. showey47 says:

    wrong yet again,he was back in the lineup dec.19th. He missed 37 games,4 short of half a season.

  358. blueline says:

    Speaking of putting a little thought into things, do you honestly believe that the Habs would have gotten as far as they did in the playoffs with Price in the net? It was plain for all rational thinkers that Halak was almost single-handedly responsible for the incredible playoff run success. After all, let’s be real, the Habs are not the greatest of teams at present. What happened this spring is that they: 1) possessed a hot goaltender who inspired his team-mates to frequently play at a level much higher than their collective talent level and 2) they had a large measure of good fortune as well. How else can you possibly explain how a team that was outshot so badly and so often managed to win so many games? And as a reward for Halak’s valuable and outstanding play our ”genius GM” gives him away for potentially useful but by no means guaranteed performers! Isn’t the goal of any enterprise seeking success to keep what works and dump what doesn’t? I’ve yet to run across any knowledgable hockey analyst who thinks otherwise. In fact isn’t it the conventional wisdom as put forward by hockey gurus that a succesful team is built from the net outwards? I suppose Gauthier didn’t believe the proof of that as witnessed by his own eyes this past spring.

    As for Plekanec, what exactly makes him so valuable or sacred that he needed to be signed at all costs? He has exhibited somewhat of a tendency in his time with the Habs to fall into that category of player who’s a regular season hero and a playoff zero. It must be one of Gauthier’s criteria as he also just had to sign Pouliot who has shown so far to be that type of player as well. No one can deny that he virtually vanished in the playoffs.

    Don’t forget we live in an age of free agents. The current strategy seems to be go out and just sign up what you need as there’s always a number available out there. Isn’t that how the core of the Habs was built now? (For reference consider Gomez, Gill, Cammalleri, Gionta, Spacek and several other minor ones.)

    All hockey experts and  fans agree that the “real” season starts in April and ends in June. Any player who exhibits skill, can handle the pressure and excells at that time of the year belongs on the team. Any who fail to perform don’t belong. And any who exhibits top ability both during the regular season and in the playoffs is a rare gem to be treasured. There’s no question that Halak falls into this last category.

    If the “market is clearly not there for goalies” as you claim, then how would you go about explaining why St. Louis promptly signed Halak for $15 million over 4 years? Perhaps you ought to take your own advice and put some thought into what you write down.  

  359. TripleX says:

    1. yes my gf is 15…what concern is that of yours or is it illegal

    2. very mature to call someone a dumbass…..what in my response required that

    3.  my name is not Triplex anymore than yours is Brian Burke so I fail to see the significance except in your perverted mind

    4.  Triplex was the name of a character in a movie and is also the name of a famous wrestler

    5.  you sir have a MAJOR problem

    6.  so what is the excuse for the abuse this person is receiving as his wife looks of age and his name can not in any way be perverted

    7.  i will not bother to call you names as what point is served by sinking to your level

    8.  the real Brian Burke should sue you for defamation of character

  360. Toe Blake says:

    If you ask me, there are a lot of people posting here who don’t have much going on under their fedoras!

  361. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Oh boy, the Ducks’ defense must be a HUGE concern for Mr. Murray right now.

  362. slamtherimtim says:

    what are the chances schultz make the team this year

  363. mike g says:

    The only way he makes the team is if…

    He takes his talents to South Beach.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  364. PrimeTime says:

    Not sure if Robert L piece has been commented on here yet (as I rarely read them anymore) but to those who havent read it might take the 30 sec to do so. Agree or disagree but at least a little thought provoking. Robert used to be a regular poster here but unfortunately doesn’t offer his thoughts and insight to this site anymore as with so many others who’s got fed up with all the B.S.  Kudo’s to Boone and the Gang for linking his 2 cents once in awhile.

     

     ”People build teams in certain ways. I’ve always traded for futures – not pasts.” – Sam Pollock The reason we are Hab fans http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=1476

  365. habs4last says:

    I don’t understand this.  Philly with all their great scorers, find room to add yet another scorer, and habs can’t sign 1 decent scorer????

    and where does Philly get all this cap space from? you would think with more than 2 lines full of great scorers, they would be out of cap space. yet not the case.

    onthe other hand, habs only only 2 legitimate scorers, and NO SPACE FOR 1 SCORER.

    shows you what a difference a GM with half a brain makes.

    Holmgren- brilliant!

    PG- zero upstairs!

    oh how I wish we could have a competent GM.

  366. SlovakHab says:

    Yeah, agree with you with that. It is a good blog and I read it regularly, even though I won’t agree with a thing or two.

  367. Harani says:

    Does the salary cap not exist for the Flyers? And Michael Leighton and Brian Boucher don’t exactly exude confidence in nets. Fail! We al knew they could score goals all along.

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  368. SeriousFan09 says:

    Yeah, sheer brilliance to not fix the situation that’s kept them from winning a Cup for 35 years, goaltending. Why not pay the guy who let in the worst Cup-winning goal in over decade about ten times what he’s worth while you’re at it? Oh wait too late.

    Flyers are over the cap with the Zherdev signing, someone has to go and it will be a name people recognize. If they are right on the cap than they won’t have any relief for minor injuries and will have to play with a short bench.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  369. ed lopaz says:

    clearly the flyers will deal either Gagne, Carter, or both.

    in return, they should try and pick up a young goalie.

    it must be killing them that Price is sitting there, they have no picks, and no cap room.

    maybe they will deal with the Kings – who will settle for Gagne / Carter instead of Kovalchuk,

    and give up Jonathan Bernier.

  370. mike g says:

    They won’t need goaltending…

    Without it, they came within 2 games of hoisting the Cup. The only thing that stopped them was a rediculously insane team in Chicago. That same Chicago team is now a mere shadow of themselves…

    Philly was my favorite to win the Cup before last year, and still are to win it this year. They’re the same exact team, plus Zherdev, Meszaros, and O’Donnell. Oh and also, they’ll have Carter without broken feet. That should help…

    I know I might sound a little too certain of my prediction, but I don’t see anyone being able to touch Philly next year.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  371. Toe Blake says:

    A sphincter says what?

  372. SeriousFan09 says:

    See what shakes out, Flyers could get upset if Leighton is well, Leighton in round 1. I don’t see his little cinderella moment lasting any longer than it did, it’s a joke the Flyers made it that far with a tandem that’s barely fit for a Top AHL team.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  373. Harani says:

    Holmgren does not have a goaltender. If you think Michael Leighton and Brian Boucher are a good 1-2 punch for an 82-game stretch then the Flyers can be called brilliant. And sometimes it’s just too much scoring. With Gagne, Briere, Richards, Carter, JVR, Giroux, Hartnell and now Zherdev. IMHO, it’s way too much. Although I do think that PG can do something to acquire a scorer, he isn’t stupid.

    And also, Zherdev isn’t the epitome of your legit scorer. Always known to have problem fitting into teams and disruptiong team chemistry and a guy who bolted for russia, I wouldn’t risk getting him in my team just for a year and mess everything up. 

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night”

  374. mike g says:

    Gagne said No to waiving his NTC.

    And if LA trades Bernier, they’ll never win. Especially if they trade him for Simon “I’m made of 1mm thick glass” Gagne.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  375. CanadienBoy says:

    Hell he can not resign Moore after given up a 2rd… pick..

  376. Harani says:

    Won’t need goaltending? I think that’s the only thing keeping them away from a Stanley. Anyone remotely better than Leighton last season and they could have lifted it.

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  377. GuyDoon says:

    Really? It has been confirmed that Zherdev has signed, but we still don’t know for how much. Rumours of 1yr/2M. If that’s true, The Flyers are now 1.5M over the cap with 22 players signed. They will have Leino (UFA) and Giroux (RFA) to sign next year. We heard Gagne is being shopped. Trading JVR might make that amount work; but the question I can’t understand is why choose Zherdev and Jody Shelley over JVR and/or Gagne? It doesn’t make sense.

    I’m going to have to see how Holmgren gets out of that one before I call him “brilliant”.

  378. ed lopaz says:

    if your buddy bernier moves to the flyers, will you still be a habs fan?

    I think he’s a perfect fit there – and little cap hit.

    it could be Carter, for bernier and a 1st round in 2011.

  379. The Capitalist Pig says:

    The Habs don’t need goaltending either given PG’s moves.

  380. mike g says:

    Say what you want about it, but they don’t need a superstar goaltender..

    Who was Jaro Halak, Niemi, and Leighton before this years playoffs? A bunch of nobodies. They weren’t even close to being the top goaltenders in the world. But they played like one.

    All I’m saying is with Chicago’s total explosion, Philly knew they didn’t even have to get better to make it back to the SCF. They knew that if they just kept their same team intact, they’d already be better than the Hawks because of their newly dismantled team. And, Philly even added to their team, which IMO makes them better. Their D is vastly improved, because their 5 n 6 d-pairing last year was awful; they were scared to even play them 2 shifts in the playoffs. Zherdev, well wtv. They didn’t need him, but they always like to add scoring for some reason.

    I honestly can’t see one team, barring a crazy miracle, that can beat Philly in a 7 game series. Pittsburgh has the best chance, and I can’t see it happening because Pronger and Timo will shutdown Crosby and Geno. After that, theres nobody else.

    Many teams will have a very tough time shutting down 3 big/insane scoring lines that the Flyers will throw out every night. And their defensive squad is #1 by far in the whole league.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  381. mike g says:

    I’ll always be Habs 1st, Philly’s already 2nd…

    But that deal would have to be Bernier for Carter and a 1st rounder. Don’t forget Carter is an RFA after this season, so not much certainty on his long-term cap hit.

    And Bernier comes cheap, with extreamly huge potential and upside. This kids the real deal, and teams know it. So his value is worth more because Philly will have to overpay, due to their cap problems. LA will force them to include a 1st rounder, or Lombardi will say ,”We know you can only fit less that 1 mill on ur cap. You want the best goaltender in the world under 1mill, you pay for it. If not, keep whoever you got”.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  382. mike g says:

    You guys all seem to forget Leighton wasn’t even in Philly’s plans last year…

    Ray Emery, who was enjoying a fine season until his major injury, was their #1 goaltender. If he was there in the playoffs, that series goes 7 and we have a barn-burner…

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  383. TripleX says:

    The Flyers have 21 roster players signed with around 600,000 left in cap space.

    The Habs have 19 roster players signed and will most likely sign Laps and Price.  Let us say for arguments sake that Laps is holding out for Pouliot like numbers.  If Pouliot deserved a 500,000 raise with his dismal playoff performance and the last two months of the season then Laps might think his playoff performance merits a similar contract.  Price might think that a number 1 goalie deserves a substantial raise and PG might be willing to do it if a longer term was part of the package.

    So, Laps at 1.5 and Price a 3 over a long term.  That is a 4.5 cap hit leaving about 1.1 million.  Are the Rangers and Flyers really in worse cap trouble than the Habs?

  384. SeriousFan09 says:

    Flyers are facing their all-or-nothing year though, much like CHI did this year. Giroux will need big compensation because he’ll be vulnerable to offer sheets, Leino will be a UFA and Carter is RFA as well. They’ll have to let significant pieces to go to maintain their forward strength. JVR is RFA a year after as well, PHI is betting big they could win in 09-10 or 10-11.

    I still wouldn’t bet a nickel on a Cup Title with Leighton and Boucher as their goalies though. The defence group aside, that’s the opposite of clutch and they nearly died against BOS this year, only to survive after the most ridiculous collapse in decades by a Playoff team. And also, the Capitals are graduating Alzner and Carlson to their roster this year and are very good at victimizing hack goaltending, they could contend with PHI if those two boost the blue line.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  385. SeriousFan09 says:

    Rangers wouldn’t score in Amsterdam with a briefcase of Euros if Gaborik is injured again.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  386. ed lopaz says:

    it might happen – its an excellent trade for both teams.

    Quick had 39 wins last season – could easily push that over 40 this coming year.

    I have to say, we might be discussing something (you and I) that is being discussed by LA and Philly.

  387. Bob Barker says:

    WTF Gauthier. Zherdev at 2 million is a perfect contract. The guy will be motivated to try to earn a big contract, I see this working out well for the Flyers. 

  388. HabFab says:

    Haven’t seen any notices lately for Toe Blake group meetings. What gives?

  389. SeriousFan09 says:

    If they graduate Bernier to backup Quick next season, Bernier could take some weight off of Quick’s back (72 games, ridiculous number) than Quick can slide back to 60 games or so, Bernier can start the rest and they enjoy a goaltending tandem that’s actually useful.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  390. Bob Barker says:

    Quick also had a terrible end to the season and playoffs. I wouldn’t be too quick to trade Bernier if I’m LA. I think he’ll take over as the starter at some point this season. 

  391. SeriousFan09 says:

    Goalies who play over 70 games a season all flop at the end of the year.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  392. GuyDoon says:

    You really think Zherdev is going to work out better than the top6 guy they have to get rid of? I can only see this working if the money saved brings them a proven goalie.

  393. SlovakHab says:

    I agree that Zherdev at 2 million is potentially a very good deal, but are we going to say “WTF Gauthier” whenever another one of 30 NHL teams signs a free agent to a good contract?

  394. derfab says:

    A better goaler would help, but I don’ t think goaltending was a factor in the final and I don’t think one nhl goalie is that much better than another these days. Technically, they’ve caught up to oneanother and play very similar styles all around the league, with the better athletes sometimes having an edge.  If anything, Leighton was the more solid of the two.

    character is derfab destiny.

  395. ed lopaz says:

    who needs a goaltending tandem? what a crazy idea! 2 good goalies supporting each other….

    it will never work.

  396. SeriousFan09 says:

    If Montreal signed him… “WTF Gauthier!!! This is Kovalev or Samsonov all over again! No more Enigmatic Russians!!! FIRE PG!!! SHOOT JM!!!”

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  397. SlovakHab says:

    :)))))) so true

  398. Bob Barker says:

    I mean I can see Zherdev putting up good numbers playing in the Flyers top six. He has all the tools to score a lot of goals, lightning fast hands and release and can skate like the wind. If he’s getting passes from Giroux or Richards, I can easily see him topping 30 goals. 2 million dollars for a top-6 forward is a bargain. 

    I think their plan is to try to move Gagne for either a goalie or the cap space to sign a goalie. I would have liked the Habs to have signed this guy to a 1 yr 2 million dollar contract. Would definitely give us more options in our top six. 

  399. SeriousFan09 says:

    VAN is rolling that way with Luongo/Schneider this year. With Hamhuis on D as well, they could be in a good position to contend better in the West this year.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  400. SlovakHab says:

    I actually think that Zherdev at 2M could be possibly a better deal than Pouliot at 1.3M or Kostitsyn at 3.25M, but might as well not be. Might work for them, but Montreal is a specific environment and we will never find out, whether it would have worked here. 

    I, personally, am not too disappointed on this one.

  401. Bob Barker says:

    Wouldn’t be me saying that.

    1 yr, 2 million for a guy with his scoring potential is a steal. There’s very little risk to this deal and a huge upside. 

  402. ed lopaz says:

    actually, you have it ALL WRONG!!!

    its shoot PG, and shoot JM!!

     

  403. ed lopaz says:

    I was being sarcastic dude – of course, the goalteding duo is EXACTLY what I’ve been telling everyone the

    Habs should have gone with.

  404. ed lopaz says:

    all kidding aside, the flyers and bruins are improving by leaps and bounds.

    the flyers will get their goalie because they have so much to trade its ridiculous.

    who can say that the Habs can compete against the Flyers, and they are spending the same money

    we will spend.

    at some point, you might want to consider that Gauthier is falling behind his peers.

    it seems apparent from where I’m sitting.

  405. ooder says:

    in all honesty.. the only reasons the bruins are imporving my leaps and bounds is thanks to the leafs.

    not to chiarelli’s genious

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  406. ed lopaz says:

    all that matters is that they are improving – right?

    if we can’t beat the Bruins or the Flyers, where will we be?

     

  407. Jean4 says:

    Halak?  Before playoffs?

     

     

    2009-2010  Canadiens  45  26  13  -  5  5   104 1,386  .924  2.40  2,630

     

     

    Jaroslav Halak at .924 save percentage is #4 goalie in the NHL

  408. ooder says:

    i agree… 

    but lets not forget we have some pretty good guys coming through our system

    who knows how guys like Kristo, Eller, Leblanc turn out 

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  409. GuyDoon says:

    His talent is undeniable. It’s the work ethic I’m not too keen on. Remember how he jacked on the Blue Jackets early on? In Philly, as in MTL, he will have to be a good citizen or they will eat him alive. If he’s matured from his KHL year, no doubt it could work for them really well; specially if they can get a proven goalie out of it (not to mention if Gagne’s health isn’t good in the coming year). Personally, I still would prefer any of their current guys to Zherdev.

  410. TripleX says:

    Been waiting 17 years for our all or nothing year.  xD

  411. Jean4 says:

    It’s not just the Flyers, Bruins improving it’s many of the eastern teams above and behind the Canadien last season. And this team looks weaker now than at the end of the playoffs..

  412. Jean4 says:

    and so hopes everyone else.

  413. zozotheclown says:

    There’s a chance he took a pay cut to play for an offensively gifted team, its perfect for his style of play. My guess is he would have wanted more to come play in Montreal.

  414. Jean4 says:

    Maybe if he had done something good for this team – then no.

  415. Bugs says:

    If my World Cup wasn’t bad enough, now the gods demand Platini as a sacrifice??? Bull. Spit. On. That.

    Survive, ya bastich! Survive!

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  416. Jean4 says:

    First offer sheet put in by San Jose today, will someone put one in for Carey Price?

     

     

    2010 Compensation

    $1,020,348 or below: No compensation
    $1,020,348 to $1,545,981: 3rd round pick
    $1,545,981 to $3,091,963: 2nd round pick
    $3,091,963 to $4,637,944: 1st round and 3rd round picks
    $4,637,944 to $6,183,925: 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks
    $6,183,925 to $7,729,907: Two 1st, one 2nd and one 3rd round picks
    Over $7,729,907: Four 1st round picks

  417. Jean4 says:

    Finished one point behind the Habs.

  418. ooder says:

    euros???

    did you say euros?!?!??!

    no euros!!! aaa euros evil!!

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  419. nick says:

    Until groups of players starting working together and saying “hey we want to win the cup, we want to play together, damn the salary cut (or lack of raise)”. Your going to forever see these teams win one or two before falling apart as UFAs go looking for the next big pay day at which ever city is willing to throw away the most money.

    Hossa did it… And he got himself a cup.

    The problem is that when it comes down to it… getting a 2-3million dollar raise, means more on an individual level to most than bringing home a big shinny champagne cup.

  420. habs-hampton says:

    What did San Jose do?

  421. SeriousFan09 says:

    Flyers could find themselves caught in as little as 2 years, with names like Giroux and Carter needing new contracts, Leino hitting UFA status, JVR in a couple years, who knows how long Pronger will actually be able to play? Niedermayer retired just 3 years after his Conn Smythe and 4th Cup with Anaheim. They’re entering the CHI area of an all-or-nothing gambit.

    Boston still is coming off of an emotionally devstating loss and their team has to rebound after many of their name players failed to match the heights they reached in 08-09. Seguin could be a big boost, but two of the centres Savard and Bergeron have well-known concussion issues and their most reliable winger Recchi is 42. Ryder and Thomas are big problems on their cap and they still need to resign Chara for 11-12.

    Our competition looks tough, but the Flyers may find themselves in a situation similar to CHI and their organization either doesn’t care about goalies, or doesn’t understand what makes a quality goaltender. It will hold them back until they address it. BOS still needs to fully regroup as an organization.

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  422. SeriousFan09 says:

    Because Gaborik was healthy, if he turns in 30 games, they’re buggered.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  423. Adam says:

    I can’t reall blame them. These guys royally abuse their bodies and occassionally sustain injuries that will haunt them for the rest of their lives. They have about a 10 year span when they can earn their big dollars, and most of them will be left with zero useful skills for once they retire. Sure, some will be able to transition into coaching or management positions, but what about the hundreds of others? The mentality seems to be ‘earn as much as you can, while you can, because once you’re done, you don’t know where your paycheques will come from.’ Winning a Stanley Cup is something they all want, these are extremely competitive people for the most part who hate losing more than they love winning. But nobody wants to end up like another Doug Harvey.

  424. TripleX says:

    Not enough for NBA and NFL players dude.

    A new study conclude 78% of NFL players are broke TWO YEARS after retirement.

    An even more stunning stat considering the larger average salary and lengths of careers, 60% of NBA players are broke FIVE YEARS after retirement.

    I have not seen any comparable studies on NHL players but I am thinking it is FAR LESS.

  425. Jean4 says:

    while in 2 years habs are still paying gomez. every team has players who eventually come to the end of their contracts. some of them even re-sign them before the contract ends.

  426. Jean4 says:

    The main goal has always been earn as much as you can, last as long as you can, same goes for those in hockey management.

  427. LA Loyalist says:

    At some point?!!! How about the day he traded Halak (aside from whether or not he should have) without having Price locked! That’s when Gauthier’s honeymoon ended. 

    Why couldn’t he have traded Halak to the Flyers for at least one of their big strong skilled forwards? (and don’t say because they are in our division because we aren’t going to make the playoffs anyway).

    And we have no money to adjust to our improving competitors because we are boat-anchored by the $7m smurf. Not to bring that up again, but… if you drive in a circle you keep seeing the same statue.

    To Failing Hands We Pass The Torch…

     

  428. Habsforlife 1959 says:

    Kevin Lowe will make a offer sheet to Carey Price for 15 million for 3 years.

  429. LA Loyalist says:

    I think your analysis is pretty good, Philly will still have goaltending issues and Boston could go either way — but Tampa is going to be MUCH better now that that situation is stabilizing and Leafs, though I hate to admit it, are much improved, at least on the back end. We are in for a year of pain – which if it were “blow it up for draft picks pain” – which is what Gainey should have done last year but he didn’t have the balls to –  I could live with. But this stumbling around in the dark looking for a chair is, um… I don’t even have a word for it. Yes I do: shameful.

  430. andrewberkshire says:

    I’m sure part of that is because most hockey players come from middle class families at the least, and are taught about money at a young age. Conversely a lot of basketball and football players come from poor families and likely weren’t taught as much about money management. My reasoning for saying this is living in Fort McMurray for a long time, and seeing the difference between people who know how to use money and those that spend if faster than they get it, even though the cash they’re getting is 10x more than they’ve ever earned.

    Another contributing factor is certainly the lifestyle. Because of the popularity of basketball and football in the states, the players become more like celebrities than athletes, and when the income stops coming in, they keep spending to stay in that lifestyle.

  431. likehoy says:

    why couldn’t he do it earlier so we’d get the 2010 first overall pick instead of the 2011.

  432. LA Loyalist says:

    I have a 1982 first growth Bordeaux I will open the day Gomez leaves, retires or is traded. Nothing personal against the guy, but he has been an expensive and constricting disappointment.

     

    To Failing Hands We Pass The Torch

  433. LA Loyalist says:

    I have a 1982 first growth Bordeaux I will open the day Gomez leaves, retires or is traded. Nothing personal against the guy, but he has been an expensive and constricting disappointment.

     

    To Failing Hands We Pass The Torch

  434. LA Loyalist says:

    • thank you. Finally I feel cheered up. Or maybe Sather will trade us for Lundqvist (sp) straight up for Price. He’s dumb enuff.
  435. punkster says:

    Well this certainly beats reading another Price/Halak post.

    FREE TIMO!

  436. HabFanSince72 says:

    Hey, when the hero has a bad season or even a bad seriesm the fans turn on him too. It’s a two way street.

  437. 24 Cups says:

    It’s a cruel lesson that Cleveland fans have just learned.  It’s strictly businees so don’t get too attached to your heroes in the sports and entertainment world.

    A lesson to keep in mind as we begin to see players such as Price and Subban rise to the top.  Enjoy it while you can.

  438. avatar_58 says:

    You shut your mouth – Price and Subban are here forever. FOREVER!!!!!!!

     

    *whimper*

  439. krob1000 says:

    In light of Lebron’s news…I will admit to having visions, that’s right I have the ability to see from a distance, a distance that transcends time and space, I have seen the past and I have seen the future and now I can share a piece with you all…….what Sidney said to Mario the day he was drafted. 

    “I’ll win you cups Mario, I’ll make you money, Mario, I’ll make Super sound silly, Mario, stone hands I will make soft, twine I shall shred, A polished Cup I shall hoist for you…….I will make it irrelevant that Marc Andre kinda sucks,………..until I turn 25…..then humbly and not without thanks …..I must go…..I must do what you had always wanted to do but were never able to…..I must do what my father has asked, what the children have asked, what ghosts have whispered.   When thunder rolls and you hear a rumble ….I hear a message being spoken from the Gods of our beloved sport…. these rumblings or thunder as you hear it…… they speak of a torch, a torch that has grown heavy o’er time, a magical torch that can make the children again laugh, it will make Torontonians cry and kneel before Zod and for this noone outside of that Hades that is the GTA can be unpleased ……you know of that  magical torch that has grown heavy o’er time, a torch that I have know I can and must hold high….but I will fulfill every wish and desire of not only you Mario but of this Buttman who oversees your circus……again….until I am 25…….then while you may cry tears  of sadness upon my departure….your tears will turn to tears of joy soon thereafter as I hold high that magical torch, for Mario, you come from the land of the torch and this is as much for you as it is for anyone now where’s my stick and that 50 million bucks…oh yeah and tell Natalie to make me 2 eggs over easy with brown toast, 4 strips of bacon and a glass of OJ…I’m a growin’ boy ya know”

  440. HabFanSince72 says:

    There’s an economic case to be made for modest public investment in pro sports. Sports and culture add to the livability of a city.

     

  441. Bugs says:

    Checked out Dan Gilbert’s “open letter” last night. Few things came to mind.

    First off, what a cry-baby b*tch. This is the guy OWNS the team? All this time, no one told this guy it’s a business? Man up, why dontcha?

    And his “guarantee”. Isn’t that the summum of delusion? “Yeah, our team what’s been losers for 40 years and which has now gotten significantly WEAKER swear to win before the POWERHOUSE of the South-East ever will…again. We SWEAR it.”

    Ohhhh, well, if they swear it…

    That’s why others teams don’t win. They don’t swear it.

    Reminds of the leafer Jeffy. “The leafs will win before the Habs ever will!” No basis at all to support such a claim, just a HISTORY of LOSING that has finally taken its toll on fragile psyches borne of pent-up frustration at watching their managerS commit hara-kiri at the start of every single season and so now, they’re completely off the deep-end and MUST rely on delusion to get them through the day and avoid the booby-hatch.

    If you’re a Cleveland fan this morning after readin that letter, you feel better or worse?

    Me, I’d be like “Great, our manager’s a crackpot; we’re friggin saved now.” And then, I’d shake my head.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  442. Slovak says:

    Actually I would shake my head first before saying we’re friggin saved now…

  443. mike g says:

    That was one of the dumbest things the owner could have done…

    1st of all, when you remove a player of Lebron’s exceptional talent, your team ain’t the same. You’ve just dropped off the NBA map, nobody will watch Cavs games anymore.

    2nd of all, he spoke like a fan of the team instead of an owner. It’s not bad to show passion and love for your team/business as an owner, but to say things in that manner is just plain unprofessional. The guy made his decision, and don’t bash him for doing it on tv. He wanted that and he got it, because he can. He’s Lebron.

    3rd, this move to Miami to create the new “triple alliance”, will increase the number of NBA fans all across the world.

    I myself couldn’t give 2 rats as*es about basketball, now I’ll actually watch the sport and buy a Heat jersey.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  444. TJV says:

    So does anyone know whats up with Aviston?  Why isn’t he skating?

  445. secretdragonfly says:

    Someone posted below he had injured his wrist.

  446. habaddict_andy says:

    Following up on grumper comment below, I myself am satisfied with the moves.  When grumber said this team is more established now then they were last year, I agree.  Last year we let go 10 players and the new ones had to adapt to the new system and at the same time they needed to provide some form of leadership.

    Now we have the core players in place and the young guys will just need to follow the leaders and hopefully pan out.  What could Gauthier could have possibly done?  Another big change?  I’m one of the few who can’t wait to see how we will perform this year, and grow from now on.

  447. habaddict_andy says:

    *gumper

  448. JIMVINNY says:

    @ Slovak, re: this excerpt from one of your posts below;

    “you are not friend with someone who did not somehow earn your
    sympathy…”
     

    Is that really how you decide who your friends are?  Based on your sympathy for them?  Because if that’s the case, you have some serious life re-evaluation to do.  The management teams decision on Price over Halak had nothing to do with their “sympathy” for him.  It had everything to do with their view of each goalie’s potential, and also their combined cap hit, and the effect on the rest of the team that that cap hit would have. 

  449. ed lopaz says:

    do you take Halak / Price for next year, and let Price regain his confidence, and dump AK46 for draft picks.

    or,

    Price / Auld, Price has to win almost immediately, or he will get roasted and booed, and you get to keep the

    great AK46.???

    it seems to me that the 3 million in AK 46, could have been given to Price and Halak, and we would have the

    best goaltending duo in the league.

    AND, THIS IS IMPORTANT,

    now you give Price the time and games he needs to re-establish his # 1 status, and prove to himself, the

    team, and the fans that he is the great goalie we all hope he can be.

    I guess if AK46 becomes a 25-30 goal scorer again, I will appreciate this move.

    But I have little or no faith in AK 46, and I believed in Halak / Price goaltending – they were AWESOME!

  450. Slovak says:

    Yes I do, they have to earn it as I have to earn their friendship… I don’t understand what you don’t understand? You have friends without emotional relationship without feeling sympathy for them without liking them for some reason?

    Yes – this decision had nothing to do with sympathy and emotions and heart but it should – Halak earned sympathy of Montreal and they gave him away arguing with potential? Everytime they gave him chance – he showed more and more and more potential… How much more potential do you want?

    And if you don’t see it – I say ok but don’t give me cap and potential bullsh.t anymore – go see how things are handled in Detroit – when you want someone to stay – you simply find a way.

    Now i understand management did not believed in Halak – he just happened to be around and so they used him when he was needed for a while… ok fine

    But FOR ME – hockey is a game before it is politic or business or cap space or whatever – the best exmaple which I identify with is Boucher saying:

    “For me, I’m not coaching systems, I’m coaching individuals and managing people and that all comes first on my list before either managing the group or systems. So, if I’ve got 24 players on my team, I need 24 ways to coach — and that’s the way I approach the game.”

    PS: I know what you are saying…

  451. ed lopaz says:

    THERE IS NO CAP ON SCOUTING – IS THERE??????

    HABS JUST MADE 15 MILLION PROFIT OFF THIS LAST PLAYOFF RUN;

    you think they can find $300,000 to hire 6 scouts??

    That’s part of my “arrogance” argument, and why I can’t stand this new GM.

    Boucher, Robinson, firing scouts, trading Halak, not signing Price, not re-signing Moore.

    Geez!

    I’m sorry, but I’m not giving Gauthier “unconditional love”, like some of you like to do.

    when you smell the stink in the air its usally because there’s sh!t on the ground somewhere.

     

  452. habaddict_andy says:

    Any sign of appreciation does not equal unconditional love.  LOL

  453. TripleX says:

    You forgot still no coach for Hamilton Bulldogs and no word on if Kirk Muller is still in the organization.  I think JM WITHOUT Muller is a recipe for disaster.

    The Montreal Canadiens should have the deepest scouting staff in the NHL anything less is laughable.

    Maybe there is more to the Boivin firing than we are lead to believe.  If so, good for Molson.

  454. JIMVINNY says:

    Those scouts were let go because they were clearly negligent in their duties.  Too many good players have been passed over in the recent draft years for them to be allowed to continue.  How they are to be replaced has yet to be determined, from what I’ve heard, so jumping to conclusions is premature at best. 

    Regarding Boucher and Robinson, the team did the right thing in letting Boucher go.  He was too green to coach the habs, and they were correct in not holding him back from a HC position.  Robinson had to take stress leave from the DEVILS, of all teams.  One of the markets with the least pressure in the NHL.  And you think he could handle the media and fans in Montreal?  He’d be in the hospital before October turned to November.

    There’s a lot more “wait-and-see”  than unconditional love for Gauthier right now, which is the right attitude.  Time will tell whether the player personnel decisions were the correct ones, so any judgement in that regard is foolish. 

    You need to calm down, Eddie.  Or you’ll be in that hospital bed they had set aside for Big Bird.

  455. Mikey_39 says:

    I agree.  Don’t see the logic in just firing scouts without rehiring new ones.  I guess they still have time, but if they stand pat then it makes no sense.  They should be putting even more money into scouting and developing players.

  456. TorontoHabsFan says:

    With all due respect, I don’t see “arrogance” so much as “moves that Ed Lopaz disagrees with”. And unless you have intimate knowledge of how NHL management generally operates across the league you really have no idea if how Gauthier operates is really off base.

     

  457. habsfan0 says:

    “your hometown Cavaliers have not betrayed you nor NEVER will betray you.”

    Cavs’ owner Dan Gilbert employed a double negative.

    No wonder LeBron felt he had to leave Cleveland.

  458. JD_ says:

    * I’m thinkin’ between the 53 points and +46 in 77 games, AHL All-Star and All-Rookie teams, and the AHL President’s Award, this Subban kid looks promising. I’m guessing he’ll have a long and meaningful NHL career. You heard it here first.

    * Price will sign. Chill, if you wish. Of course, signing him ahead of moving Halak would have been a genius move – and by genius, I mean moronic – ensuring an even more obvious seller’s overhang in an already lame goaltender’s market. “Hi Doug, it’s Pierre. Look, um, we’ve just signed up Carey. Whatcha gonna give me for Jaro cause, you know, he’s real crucial to our long-term plans…*cough*…” It’s not the heat, it’s the stupidity.

    * I love Moore as much as the next person – hard-working, intelligent, and WhineFree - but there is no more eating your cake and having it too in the new NHL. If we’re going to twist ourselves into a knot over the departure of every 3rd- and 4th-line FA journeyman, well, we’re going to twist ourselves into a whole bunch o’ knots. Eller looks promising. Second-round picks, not so much. “But JD, Jesus Christ was picked in the second round!” Yeah. After the 2nd or 3rd overall pick, I couldn’t give a flying F. Think my rear-view mirror might be busted.

    * I don’t know if it’s the Comic Sans font or the “liberal”, and “highly” irritating, “use” of “redundant” quotation “marks”, but Cleveland Cavs “majority” owner Dan Gilbert is “seemingly” “fortunate” to have “made” his “bajillions”. To describe his open letter as overly petulant and childish would be a vast understatement. What an embarrassment. I speculate the guy is effin’ deranged. Anybody know what his HI/O moniker is?

    * Speaking of the new NHL, is there a statute of limitations on new? I mean, at what point do we start calling it the NHL or, even, the old NHL. Did head office issue a memo on this? Just wonderin’.

    * F it’s hot. Ripping out the whole HVAC this month. Waiting on the contractor, as we speak, to iron out the details. He’s late, though. That is very, very surprising. I mean, he is a professional, isn’t he? In other developments, Ahmadinejad said that Iran is pursuing nuclear technology for strictly peaceful purposes. He said it so it must be true.

  459. HabFanSince72 says:

    You are the voice of reason.

     

  460. Bugs says:

    Putting the the Turbo 302 V8 electronic fuel injected aileroned Ford Mustang before the horse a bit with your Soobie prognostications, don’t you think, JD?

    They tried the “NNHL” but it sounds like you’re stutterin, so we just say New NHL and reckon it’ll stick until we invent a newer NHL, like one with no equipment and a golf-ball instead of a puck, for instance.

    I hear they’re makin nuclear baby diapers in Iran, so cut’em some slack, why dontcha? Think of the children!

    JD, you my idol, dog.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  461. Ian Cobb says:

    JD–Nice post—-Subban has been the real deal ever since he was a walk on here with the Belleville Bulls 6 years ago.

    I have had the privilege of watching his development and knowing him personally as raw enthusiasm and pure skating speed was channeled by great coaching here in junior.

    When he was drafted by the Habs, I knew we had a diamond in the rough. He will wear the C here one day.!!

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  462. Bill H says:

    Great post JD. An astute message wrapped in a laugh.  I look forward to your posts.

  463. Chorske says:

    Well, of COURSE Price will sign. He has no arbitration rights, for petes sakes. And the goalie market is so flush (scuse the toilet analogy) that the odds of him getting an offer sheet are the same as me finally baggin’ ScarJo (MAKE IT HAPPEN, PG+BG!!). What makes me less chill is that things are dragging on. The Anointed One wants cake! Pff. Word to the Priceman: sign the bloody contract, and instead of sulking like Guimauve, crank it up a notch like we think we know you know you probably can when you want to, and EARN that big payday.

    Of course, I could just be stupid from the heat.

  464. Storm Man says:

    Edmonton Sun reports the Oilers have signed Goalie Carey Price to a 5 year 22 mil offer sheet. More details to come.

  465. mike g says:

    Thanks alot..

    You just made me test how long it takes me to visit 4 hockey websites. Result: under 30 seconds.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  466. Former Jets Fan says:

    That would equate to 1st and 3rd round picks. 

    And probably the best case scenario for an offer sheet from the Habs’ perspective….the Oilers have a shot at finishing 30th again.

    I’d still be disappointed though.

  467. HabFanSince72 says:

    The first time you did this it wasn’t funny.

    Now it’s annoying.

     

  468. SeriousFan09 says:

    You blew your clever ruse the second you used a Sun newspaper to do it.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  469. rogus says:

    Ecklund is that you?

  470. Ian Cobb says:

    Boy! did they get screwed, he is only worth one and a half per year. He has not done a thing yet. But I think he will if he works hard at it.

  471. matraque says:

    Bring back the Nordiques!!

    Best thing that could happen to the Canadiens.

    ——

    Canadien en 5!

    Never go Full Retard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  472. mike g says:

    By posting that video, you made me edit my signature. Now, I have the Youtube clip of Simple Jack included in it….

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  473. JIMVINNY says:

    I’m finished debating the Price/Halak situation.  My position is set;  I’m going to wait and see how both them and Eller perform before making a decision.  That’s not going to change.

    Regardless, my post was more about Slovak’s poor lifestyle and friendship choices than anything.

  474. Malreg says:

    If only it were that easy as to say that dumping AK46 means that you could keep both Price and Halak. 

    Who replaces AK46 on the top line?  Without him, you have to find another Top 6 scoring winger, and last time I checked those don’t come cheap. 

    And I also don’t agree with this: “do you take Halak / Price for next year, and let Price regain his confidence, and dump AK46 for draft picks.”

    The only effect keeping Halak would have on Price would be to hurt his confidence if anything, not help him regain it.  It’s not easy being a goalie, and knowing that anytime you have 1 bad game you can lose the #1 spot.  Especially when the other goalie is Halak, the beloved guardian angel of all the Montreal fans and who can do no wrong.  Ask any goalie and they will tell you that when they have a bad game, or go through a bad stretch, they need to play through it to get it back, not sit on the bench and watch some one else take over. 

    The same can be said for Halak as well.  He wants to be the clear cut #1, play 65+ games a year.  He doesn’t want to keep looking over his shoulder.  As good as people say it is to have 2 good goalies, it never works out over a long period of time.  It’s not a healthy relationship. 

    They could only keep one, and they chose Price. 

  475. Clay4bc says:

    Who the hell are you to presume to comment on and judge his “poor lifestyle and friendship choices”?. You arrogant little worm, you. Think before you type.

    It’s punk kids like you with your confrontational attitudes that are ruining his site for those who wish to have rational debates. Now wipe your nose and run home to your mother – it’s past your bed time.

    __________________________

    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  476. ed lopaz says:

    check this link – it lists the top 100 goalie prospects.

    http://www.thegoalieguild.com/?page_id=2525

    habs have 2 in the top 100.

    #35) Desjardins, Cedrick

    #87) Simila, Petteri

    our goaltending “depth” is terrible.

     

     

  477. mike g says:

    Glad to see Bernier still at #1….

    That kid, well he’s exaclty my age lol, will have a great career. I’ve told you before that I played with and against him, and I can still remember how he stole the show so many times.

    LA should bring him up now, and start him.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  478. andrewberkshire says:

    Well, that’s an odd ranking since Robert Mayer is way better than Simila. 

  479. SeriousFan09 says:

    Positive sign about Markov’s intent to stay in Montreal? Team 990′s Amanda C Stein on Twitter reports that Andrei Markov will become a Canadian citizen next week.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  480. andrewberkshire says:

    Wow! That’s awesome!!!

  481. avatar_58 says:

    Yay Markov! Congrats

  482. TripleX says:

    Markov filled out the papers back in January of 2007.  Does it take that long to get citizenship?

  483. CBrady12 says:

    I dont get it. So many people think we need to tank for a few years to be able to win….During the draft so many of you were commenting how Tallon was rebuilding florida the right way (ice a shit team and reap your rewards in the draft)… now that we find out this approach becomes unsustainable because of whats happenining in chicago, everyone says “thats what you get for tanking….screw em!’”"  WHICH IS IT?? 

  484. JSP1990 says:

    Don’t tank. Build to win and draft well. It’s easy to draft in the first round. It’s the gems in the late rounds that make a Cup champ.

  485. krob1000 says:

    well…..they did win a Cup right? they are losing guys but none of thema re core guys….the rtanking model leads to waht will eventually be called Penguin/Hawk Cup Syndrome  ….it is a disease that causes teams to win Stanley Cups but comes with a nasty side effect of yearly roster turnover.  To remain healthy with Penguin/Hawk Cup syndrome as a team you must be sure to maintain your core, have an elite or better core, always be obn the hunt for bargains, rig you r playoffs so as to ensure you don’t play Jaro Halak and then it’s quite simple…you just win. The casualties are unfortunate but we say that Gomez would be worth it if we won right? I guess the diffference between us and the teams I just mentioned is the level of the core…..our model requires greater contributions from the depth guys and younger contingent.  For years it was the stable organizations like Jerey and Detroit that were the winning model…..2 years running the Tankers have won.

  486. andrewberkshire says:

    Are you searching for logic on HIO?

  487. HabFanSince72 says:

    Chicago is only unsustainable because they messed up  faxing the offers too late last year. Also, who says CHicago is really  unsustainable. They’re still a contender.

    And finally, they won the cup. I’ll take that. A Stanley Cup followed by a team that isn’t quite as good but still darn good? Sign me up.

     

  488. SmartDog says:

    5 QUESTIONS:

    1. When will Price sign?  Do you care?

    2. Who stands a better chance of wearing the CH full time?  Gallagher or Shulz?

    3. With Eller in the line-up, is our bottom 6 better than last year?

    4. Can PK handle the heat in Montreal?

    AND… for HabsFanSince72:

    5. Which are you more tired of hearing about: Price’s “potential”, Gauthiers “mistakes”, the Habs “size problem”, the “captain controversy” or Gomez’s contract?

     

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  489. JIMVINNY says:

    1.  No, as long as it’s before september 15th.

    2.  I would think Schultz, but Gallgher could replace Gio in 4 years.

    3.  Abso-freakin’-lutely.

    4.  Handle it?  He’s going to bask in the GLORY of it.

    5.  Not directed at me, but is option “F” available?  “All of the Above”?

  490. SeriousFan09 says:

    1. This month, only because I’ll have to argue this contract until some of my keys wear off my keyboard.

    2. Schultz is closer to NHL action, but I think Gallagher has a stronger future ahead of him.

    3. Yes

    4. Yes

    5. Gauthier’s ‘mistakes’.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  491. Mike from Ktown says:

    1 – he will sign, i care, if contract keeps him as rfa he signs cheap, if we get him a few years into ufa we pay more

    2 – Shulz, but don’t expect either making club full time this year

    3 – not sure how well he can play defensively which is important in bottom 6

    4 – PK will be ok

    5 – mistakes and size problem, sick of the instant analysis that people feel is 100% correct

  492. StevieRay says:

    1. I think it’s already been agreed upon … just not announced

    2 Gallager …Shutz is to big/tough  …hahaha

    3 no

    4 yes..if he plays within himself..

    5 price’s potential …

     

  493. mike g says:

    1- As long as he’s there for game 1, and is signed at a fair price, I’m good.

    2- Not sure, but judging by Gallagher’s size alone I’d say Shultz. It’s easier to fill a bottom 6 spot with big size, limited skill, and at a cheap cost than fill a top 6 role at 5 foot 7.

    3- If Eller plays decent, and White is on the team, yes.

    4- The real question is, can Montreal handle PK’s heat?

    5. All of the above.

     

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  494. HabFanSince72 says:

    1-4. No clue.

    5. I don’t mind any topic as long as its handled with a certain amount of wit.

     

  495. Bugs says:

    1) When he gets his money. Damn right I care. I like money too.

    2) Me.

    3) As long as they’re not better than the top 6.

    4) It’s the humidity that’ll get’m. Dyin over here…

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  496. SmartDog says:

    1. Just sign already so we can bitch about it!

    2. Gallagher. I like this kid.

    3. Not better than the playoff six, no.

    4. I like Mike’s answer (below) – can Montreal handle PK’s heat!  Nice.  GREAT answers by Bugs and JIMVINNY too.

    5. I am sick of Price’s potential.  It’s not just boring, it’s also somehow bad karma.   Almost as sick of the captain question.  Really, we know the finalists but we can’t know what seperates them in the mind of the Habs brass.

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  497. crabvader says:

    1. It’s not a rush as of now. Sure, I care.

    2. Schultz

    3. I would say it’s more talented

    4. Yes

    5. Are the rest of us not supposed to answer this question? If we can, I say tired of all of it.

  498. BJ says:

    1) before the start of the season (unless he pulls a Ken Dryden)

    2) Schultz (but hoping both make it)

    3) Yes (on hope as I’ve never seen him play)

    4) Yes

    5) Price’s potential (I’d like him to realize that potential this year)

  499. joeybarrie says:

    One: Dont care, would like to see soon and how much.

    Two: Schultz

    Three: Hopefully they play better, I miss Moore.

    Four: Yes PK can handle the heat.

    FIVE…….#1 Gomez contract, HANDS DOWN…

    #2 Smurfy Habs

    #3 PG mistakes

    I don’t see why it is ok to compare everyone elses potential, just not Price cause we talk about it ALOT…

    I have no issue with who should be captain…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  500. Chorske says:

    1. Don’t care, although the longer things drag on, the more I think the Habs confidence in him is misplaced. I think the kid is living in la-la-land. He’s RFA with no arbitration- he should suck up a short term contract, prove his detractors wrong over the next two seasons, and then sign the contract he THINKS he deserves in two years. The organization has treated him well, and I don’t get this delay in signing. Every day that goes by confirms some of my darker thoughts about him.

    2. A bit early to judge Gallagher, no? But I’ll say Shultz, but he’s a career 4th liner.

    3. SHort term: worse. Long term: MUCH better.

    4. Are you kidding? He was born for this.

    5. Definitely the size problem, mostly because it isn’t one. I’d say we have a MEANNESS problem. Price has potential, but potential doesn’t mean shite- my boss doesnt pay me for what I could have done but didn’t, and neither should his. All of the other issues are also valid topics for discussion. It’s really only the size thing that is factually incorrect and boring.

  501. SLONCOLD says:

    some neat info on the new goaltending equipment changes:

    http://ingoalmag.com/gear/new-goal-pad-regulations-for-2010-2011-complex-and-may-make-little-difference/

    Some people have asked a bit about goalie sizing information so since i play the position i thought i would share. from my conversations with brians and vaughn sales reps there will be a few changes comming and i don’t have teh exact details but i have a good idea what will be aloud kinda thing.

    Now the first thing to explain is pad sizes differ depending on the manufacture. A 34in pad in itech(now bauer) is equivalent in length to a 35 vaughn or brians pad for example. the smallest pad length in the nhl is 34in. most goalies wear 34-37 in pads with a 1-3 in thigh rise. as it stands right now the league max for all goalies is 38in. Examples of a fews goalies:

    osgood 35+3 pads

    biron 36+1

    price 36+2

    halak 35+0.5

    niemi 35+3

    players with long tibias but shorter femurs will will wear longer pads with a shorter thigh rise and vice versa. Back in the day prior to the 38in pad size goalies like garth snow wore a 40+4 pad… lalime had 42+4 pad….

    the new system coming in to effect next year basically ensures players are wearing proper pad length and not abusing the thigh rise. however this is all dependant on you ankle, knee, thigh  measuments. the rules might actually make goalie equipment bigger. player with llonger legs like rinne on Nas might me wearing a 37+2 or plus 3 pad next year. making his pad longer than the 38 max. some talk about halak being smaller might hurt him but being teh same hieght i can tell you i could wear a 35+2 vaugh or a 34+3 pad and based on my measurements still be legal under the “new system”.

    so basically the new rules will allow taller goalies to go above the current 38in max if their legs permit it. 95% of teh eagues goalies wont be changing pad sizes for rule reasons. and when you consider that their are about 6 goalies in the nhl under 6’0” this new change won’t be affecting scoring at.

    if you have a reallly long torso u r screwed lol

     

  502. JIMVINNY says:

    Can I ask where you got those goalie-specific measurements from?  From what I had heard, both Price and Halak were wearing the league max 38″ pad.

  503. mike g says:

    In all honesty, the NHL is doing “something” just to shut people up again..

    The real problem never lied in the pads. Sure some played with bigger ones, but never to the insane oversized levels of their chest protectors. That’s where the real problem is. If you’ve ever seen Ryan Miller, Lundqvist, and/or JS Giguere in real life, you’ll know what I’m talking about.

    Those guys are so skinny, they can fit through a crack in the wall. Yet, their chest protectors are bigger than a Mack truck. It’s rediculous. Look at Brodeur and the late Nabokov. They never wore those huge things and are considered the best in the game.

    Don’t get me wrong, strict rules should be included for the pads too. But don’t tell me that the NHL has done something productive when a new rule affects only 5% or less of the league. That’s a joke, it’s just a rule to shut us up so we can say, “Yea, there are restrictions on goalie pads.”…

    What restrictions?! If it doesn’t affect anyone, it’s a useless rule!

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  504. andrewberkshire says:

    Sloncold, any idea what Brodeur’s pad size is? They always looked very small to me. Conversely Luongo’s pads never look legal.

  505. GuyDoon says:

    If you look at this NHL video, Kay Whitmore suggests that the new rule will make the equipment more Form-fitting, with special attention to the goalie’s shoulders and five-hole. The idea is that shooters will see more net than before and pucks that would have been deflected by the top of the shoulder pads, or trapped by the inside padding of the goalie pads would now sneek through.

    http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=26138

  506. ed lopaz says:

    did I tell you that I’m friends with Bernier’s goalie coach when he was in Lewiston?

    yup.

    you know who else was sharing the nets with Bernier in Lewiston, right????

     

  507. andrewberkshire says:

    Who, because hockeydb has no mention of Bernier ever playing for Lewiston.

  508. mike g says:

    YA BOY!

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  509. mike g says:

    Yea, he played his junior career there..

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  510. TripleX says:

    I think he means the coach of Bernier, when the coach was a goalie in Lewiston.  I could be wrong though.

  511. ed lopaz says:

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=80398

    Andrew??

    Bernier was a STAR at Lewiston.

    His goalie partner was Jaro Halak.

  512. ed lopaz says:

    yes – you are right, of course. that’s what i meant.

     

  513. andrewberkshire says:

    Ed, I’m a complete idiot. I was searching STEVE Bernier.

  514. andrewberkshire says:

    I was searching Steve Bernier, not Jonathan, because I’m stupid.

  515. mike g says:

    Don’t be silly Andrew!

    You’re not stupid, it’s Friday. On Friday’s were dumb.

    lol

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  516. ed lopaz says:

    I can’t understand what happened to Steve Bernier – huge numbers in Moncton – big kid, 6’2 215,

    and his NHL career has never taken off.

    I have to say, I was way off on this kid. I thought he had the tools to be an excellent player.

  517. andrewberkshire says:

    Its the rain, it’s messed with my head!

  518. andrewberkshire says:

    He still has the tools, but I don’t think he’s going to ever put it together.

  519. ed lopaz says:

    ya, thanks – I’m glad you are worried about my health????

    maybe from your point of view “wait and see” is the right approach.

    however, from my point of view, I want to take a stand, and stick to it.

    otherwise, every thing is being judged by looking in the rear view mirror, and hindsight is 20/20.

     

     

     

     

  520. JIMVINNY says:

    But when an immediate decision isn’t necessary, making that decision prematurely can result in you looking like a fool.  If you’re wrong, and Price succeeds, or Halak fails, or worse, both, are you going feel all that great about having taken a stand?  It’s not like waiting and seeing is going to cost you anything, you don’t have anything riding on this stand you’ve taken, so why risk it? 

    I’m not trying to say that taking a stand and risking something is bad, because there are times if life where you have to do just that.  I just don’t see how this is one of those times.

  521. TripleX says:

    We all realize that you support management unequivocally dude.

    But are you implying they ignored the GREAT Larry Robinson because they were worried about his health?

    I think Mr. Robinson can fully assess his abilities in conjunction with highly skilled doctors.  Many of us are dismayed that a former player and ICON was summarily disrespected.

    You are guilty of the very same things that you are accusing Ed of sir.

  522. JIMVINNY says:

    Are you unable to read?  What don’t you understand about “wait-and-see”?  Does that sound like unequivocal support to you? 

     

    I’m not implying anything.  I’m flat out SAYING that I believe Mr. Robinson’s prior stress-related health issues played a part in his not being hired.  Or maybe it’s just that JM didn’t want him as an assistant.  Whatever the reason is, I don’t care.  There are plenty of other people in the world that don’t get jobs they want. 

     

    And what, exactly, am I accusing Ed of?

  523. Clay4bc says:

    3X, some of the young ones like vinny here (but I am glad to say not yourself) don’t understand the true meaning of this team, and how it is (and should be) held to a higher standard. This is not the freaking Columbus blue jackets here – it is the Montreal Canadians, and that means something – or used to. I grew up with teams of players who understood the terms “loyalty” and respect”, and went to war for each other every shift of every game. The kids today, they mostly play for themselves and the money. That’s why players like Halak are so special nowadays, as is a team that comes together. They are increasingly rare.

    __________________________

    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  524. TripleX says:

    Of prejudging before having ALL the facts?

    You don’t care how a former player who has his number hanging in the rafters is treated?  Does that apply to Beliveau as well?

    Treating people, especially those individuals who share a history with your company is only good business and public relations.

    Yes, I can read very well and the tenor of your response was obvious.

    Have you EVER been critical of a management decision or is your worst condemnation “wait and see”.

    At the very least Ed draws a line in the sand and does not sit on the fence.

  525. TripleX says:

    I have tried to explain that my opinions and passions come from my Grandad and Dad.  Their love for the team like yours is inseparable from what the Montreal Canadiens have stood for, just as much as their 24 Stanley Cups.  To WIN with style and class while remaining humble and loyal to the past is so RARE.

    IT IS NOT JUST WINNING BUT HOW YOU WIN.

    My Dad has told me about how it used to be and his dismay at the current state of affairs.  It is not ONE incident but rather a series of missteps and moves lacking in “class”.

    We love what the Canadiens represent  in comparison with the other ordinary franchises.  The Habs have a legacy to protect and to live up to.  The passing of the torch encompasses more than the winning tradition it is the passing of a glorious legacy.


  526. CBrady12 says:

    true say

  527. Kristopher7 says:

    They have to fix this cap BS… dynasties will never happen again, and it’s a damn shame. If a GM can pool a good group of players, and these players excel to win championships, why can’t they stay together? Cap is epic fail.

  528. avatar_58 says:

    I don’t really give a flying rhino so long as the habs win ONE while I have my eyesight

  529. A. Berke says:

    IMHO, Putting a lid to individual contracts and NOT overpaying the players would easily alleviate the CAP problems.

    Also contract amounts difference between the top six and bottom six forwards (similarly for D) is too big to be sustainable in the long run as well.

    A max amount of say around 6 mil per (per player) would be a lot more manageable for the teams under the current cap numbers instead of much higher numbers for contracts that will last for gazillion years more is totally crazy, insane.

    6 mil per is a good way of making a living and frankly in my opinion (mine alone) none of the current players in the nhl deserve more. One player has a decent year and demands a huge contract that most GM’s agree to and the team hardly ever gets a decent return from the player on that huge and crippling contract.

    Ali B.

  530. HabFanSince72 says:

    I agree with you in part. I think it’s a shame that the Canadiens can’t build a dynasty. Ithink it’s fine that the other 29 teams can’t.

     

  531. ooder says:

    what cap BS?

    look at detroit.. they seem to be doing fine.

    If Tallon didn’t have a backup goalie worth 6.5 million a year, or Campbell at 7.5 million a year or he didn’t fax the RFA offers late, thus having to overpay Chicago wouldn’t be in this mess.

    it’s thier own fualt not the cap or the cba

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  532. SlovakHab says:

    NYR acquire D Steve Eminger from ANA for F Aaron Voros and F Ryan Hillier.

  533. likehoy says:

    anaheim still just wants to beat up people even though burke’s long gone?

  534. SlovakHab says:

    I think Twitter normally does the job, doesn’t it?

  535. JIMVINNY says:

    Maybe this is a language barrier issue.  I have friends that I occasionally sympathize with, but that’s not what I base a friendship on, which is how your original post came across.  I don’t associate liking someone with feeling sympathy for them.  I can feel sympathy for someone I like, but that doesn’t mean I like everyone I sympathize with.  Making you are thinking empathy?  Sympathy insinuates that you feel sorry for someone, and in my opinion, that’s a pretty poor foundation for a friendship.

    I feel sorry for the people who are devastated that Halak was traded, but that certainly doesn’t mean I want to be friends with them.

  536. HabFanSince72 says:

    Pens, Hawks, Kings all tanked. It’s a myth that you can still win without having top three picks. Detroit was a one-off.

     

     

  537. JD_ says:

    The New & Improved NHL: More hittin’, more scorin’, and more sudsy!

    It’s only a matter of time.

  538. TripleX says:

    RDS should have an hour long reality show based on who should be the next captain of the Habs.

    Le Capitaine, where Josh, Michael, Todd and Brian go through various challenges to win the heart of Pierre.  

    Who will win the coveted rose and who will be eliminated?  Mystery, heartbreak and the ultimate prize of Le Capitaine.  Tune in next week for thrills and chills hosted by PJ Stock.

  539. Former Jets Fan says:

    Todd?  Are you getting your Gills confused?

  540. likehoy says:

    wth is todd? 

    but i would definitely watch this…it should be a mini series…like 82 episodes and the one who shows the most leadership over this time gets the C. 

    maybe we can set up an American Idol-like hotline that we can call or txt our votes!

  541. JIMVINNY says:

    Who the F is Todd?

  542. mike g says:

    The winner should get a poutine..

    And each time a player is eliminated, they should be forced to spend a night out with SK in Nashville.

    Trust me, we’d find the best captain.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  543. Storm Man says:

    Never poster anything like that before. Im kicking back having a cold Red Stripe here I passed one to you.

  544. SLONCOLD says:

    36+2 is league max.

    i got halak’s pad specs from brains directly. i was placing an order for my new set of gear ( zero g pad is the lightest on the market :-)

  545. SLONCOLD says:

    yup useless rule was what i was getting at. lol

    as for chest pads….. i think they are fine. i have a pro spec vaughn epic chest pad and i still get shots that leave bruises on 80mph shots let alone 100mph shots….

    the problem with chest pads is i wear a large, but every goalie in the nhl wears a xxl model lol. personaly i can’t move in anythign bigger than the large, it slows me down.

    and the catcher gloves… lol still too big but i’m not complaining about it lol

  546. TripleX says:

    LMAO…I always do that!  Sorry yeah I did.

  547. StevieRay says:

    finally a mention of Ryan White .. I hope he makes the team this year also … he could be a real fan favourite !!

  548. mike g says:

    I really think a 3rd line of White/Eller/Lappiere can be good.

    Could score 35 goals if used properly. 10 for White and Lapierre, and hopefully 15 for Eller. Not bad for a 3rd line.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  549. StevieRay says:

    Makes to much sense .. so it won’t happen . but lets hope it does .

     I think JM has Pyatt ahead of White and then there’s Boyd . I expect White to be on the Foourth line with Boyd and Pyatt ?? still a good one regardless , they are alll bangers

     

     

     

  550. HabFanSince72 says:

    I notice that the Ek is no longer using his e rating system FOr example:

    * The Canadiens are rumored to be possibly putting an offer sheet
    together for a forward..can’t confirm if that forward is Bobby Ryan, but
    one source believes it to be the case.

     

  551. mike g says:

    That jerk-off also just posted that Nik Zherdev wasn’t close to signing in Philly anymore…

    All I had to do was visit RDS soon after, and it said Zherdev just singed a 1 year deal in Philly.

    I still don’t understand why I visit hockeybuzz, even though I know I’m reading total lies.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  552. likehoy says:

    sigh..

    why mention this? now everyone’s going to have false hope over acquiring bobby ryan.

    what are we going to pay him? he rejected 5 years 25 million, so we have to offer him 5 years 30 million? then our compensation is a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and we become super cash strapped for the next 4 years until gomez, gionta, and cammalleri come off the books.

  553. TripleX says:

    I would actually love to party with SK!  You can argue about his qualities as a hockey player but come on the dude can PARTY!

    And Southern girls?  Gotta love the accents.

  554. mike g says:

    DUDE, are you serious?!

    Have you ever seen women in Nashville?!!!

    They drink a case of 24 in 16 minutes, eat glass bottles, and only dance on top of steel/concrete re-inforced bars only cuz they’re too heavy for the wood ones.

    If that’s what gets your sausage up, fine with me lol. I’d rather stick to the fancy MTL ladies, with their expensive cremes and lotions.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GMxauCmaY&feature=related

     

  555. TripleX says:

    LMAO….well when you describe it that way!

  556. SlovakHab says:

    We’d then sign Turco and keep the picks. Not a very bad situation in my books..

  557. SlovakHab says:

    D. Chesnokov has shown his credibility and good connections, in my opinion. Was the very first to inform about Zherdev to Philly deal.

    Now Eklund reports it is a one year, $2M deal. If he is wrong even with this one, he lost his last 0.003% of credibility. Still trying to find a confirmation on this one, but no one else reports about it. 

  558. SlovakHab says:

    Sarah Baicker (Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia Flyers reporter) confirms it is a 2 Million, 1 year deal.

    This is the first time Eklund was the first to report something, and it was accurate.

  559. matraque says:

    Price still not signed!

    OMG what is going on?!?!

    I mean… he has potential!  Why still not signed?!

    ——

    Canadien en 5!

    Never go Full Retard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  560. joeybarrie says:

    Not that there is any remote possibility Eklund is correct. Or even in the same planet… But once Hamr is off our books next season, we are looking pretty good. Plus if AK doesnt pan out this season, he will be off the books too. Giving us almost 9 million in cap space.

    Of course the problem is getting Markov in long term. But we can absolutely do it fairly easily. He wont get more than 6.5 – 7 million in Montreal.

    If we can get rid of Hamr, and sign Ryan, it would be AWESOME. But its very doubtful we would do this. Besides, anything we would offer, the Ducks would match.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  561. SLONCOLD says:

    luongo uses a 37+1 but they do look bigger lol

    brodeur uses a custon pad built by sheerwood:

    http://goaliemonkey.com/sherwood-goalie-leg-pad-t100-mb30-pro.html

    i believe he uses a 35 +1 or a 36 with no thigh rise. brodeur pads are actually 10.5 in width compared to the 11 legal limit. it should be noted he used a 10.5 width pad back when the limit was 12.

  562. SlovakHab says:

     

    And I’ll add the first one for this thread.. 

    Hope Schultz emulates Lucic in being a young, hungry player that hits, scores and beats the **** out of Komisarek – not in a way of being an injured and totally overpaid player.

     

  563. Lafrich says:

    That letter about Lebron is hilarious. Seriously though – what a douchebag Lebron is. Is he that stupid to not realize how many fans he is alienating by his moves?

  564. HabFanSince72 says:

    That letter is illiterate, and it’s written in comic sans for f**k’s sake.

    It’s also a bit over the top. What did James do that’s so bad?

    I mean, we boo Komisarek but as a joke right? We don’t really hate his guts, do we?

     

  565. HabFab says:

    If the “dog talker” is accurate anywheres, it should be his home base in Philly.

  566. Puck Bard says:

    It’s all too apparent to me now… Tony242 is in fact Cleveland Cavaliers majority owner Dan Gilbert.

  567. smiler2729 says:

    LOLOLOLOL! Good one! LOL

  568. The Capitalist Pig says:

    Tonight on RADIO FREE TIMO (RFT): How Lebron James’ decision to go to the Miami Heat will prevent the Canadiens from winning the Stanley Cup. Hosted by Sheldon the Clown.

  569. smiler2729 says:

    Being finally over that freak pneumonia, I returned to my crease to play hockey last night for the first time in a month (lost 4-2)… in the arena bar after, I ran into a couple of guys I play in tourneys with, ex-college, ex-AHL types who knew Bob Probert.

    They said he hadn’t “conquered” any of those demons and that he was still going on binges of drugs (the really bad ones) and booze and was just coming off of one when he collapsed and died Monday on his boat on a family cruise… what a waste, man, I’m still bummed, one of my all-time favourite players, I don’t have too many hockey jerseys with NHL players’ names on ‘em but I do have a Red Wing Probert 24 (to go with my Blackhawk Chelios 7, yeah, I almost cried when Chelly was traded in ’90).

    Bummed and saddened…

  570. 100HABS says:

    Thanks for the info, I was questioning the “conquered” part of the story because there weren’t any feel-good stories of Probert in the last couple of years. Doing blow can certainly weaken your heart, I imagine.

  571. Clay4bc says:

    It’s not about James leaving to another team…it’s all about how he left. Arrogant POS, if you ask me (which you didn’t).

    __________________________

    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  572. avatar_58 says:

    I was never a Komisarek fan, but he’s simply booed as a leaf not as a player/person.

  573. Lafrich says:

    Exactly.

  574. Lafrich says:

    He should have just signed with any team he wanted, apologized to Cavs fans, and then shut the F up. Instead, what James did is that he made a circus out of the whole thing, and made people like me, who couldn’t give a crap about him before, to dislike him.

  575. 24 Cups says:

    “Mayor Lebeaume is a proponent of a publicly funded, $400-million arena that would seat 18,000 and be core to Quebec City’s bid for the 2022 Winter Olympics. He is pledging $50-million of local taxpayer money and asking the provincial and federal governments to pick up the rest.”

    Hey, why not?  Isn’t that the way things are done down in Quebec?  Bleed the federal government dry and then turn around and keep voting for the separatists.  I don’t know if I should laugh or cry.

    Instead of blowing $1.2B on the Summits (8 & 20), Harper could have used that money to build new arenas in Quebec City, Hamilton and Winnipeg (expand their new digs).  It might have even been enough to get him his cherished majority government.

    We can dream all we want about teams coming to Canada but reality states that Kansas City (18500 seats/72 luxury boxes) is next in line.  They have a new barn and a rich owner (Phillip Auschutz from LA) who is well connected around the league.

  576. The Cat says:

    Its all about untapped TV revenue in the states. Having healthy teams in Quebec and Winnipeg does nothing to help further that, only when the NHL will have run out of options will they come back here.

  577. G-Man says:

    Not 1 cent of taxpayer money should go for millionaires to strut their stuff. Let the billionaires who sign their cheques pay for their obscene money making machines. If local area business and a rich as hell Peladeau needs public money to build a rink, f%ck them. Last time I looked, the tax revenues from an arena don’t outweight the cost of building an arena or “entertainment complex.” Let the fans pay for it, not the general public because a sports franchise makes money for itself and won’t pay back the 500-600 million needed for a rink.

    And that’s the political message of the day.

  578. LA Loyalist says:

    message to you young bucks – the games back in the 80′s between Habs and the ‘Diques were a blast, especially playoffs. We can dream at least, though in the end Satan (aka Gary Bettman) will have his way. 24 Cups is probably right.

  579. 24 Cups says:

    Only a fool would give up a chance to be at Havard and live in one of the best cities in North America.  It sure beats riding the buses in junior hockey.

    I’ll be elated if Ian Schultz turns out to be half the player that Lucic is at this stage of his career.  I’ve said all along that having goons like Laraque on the team is a waste of time.  We need tough, gritty players who can protect our scorers  while still taking a regular shift up front or on the D.

    The new NHL rules have made it possible for a few small forwards to survive and contribute in today’s game.  The Habs already have more than they need but it’s possible that one of Gallagher, Desharnais, Dumont or Trotter will eventually break through (even if it’s on the wing).  Failing that, they may one day bring us something back via a trade.  It may not take Gallagher too long to pass by the other three in terms of the depth chart.

  580. 24 Cups says:

    LMAO – Let me change that to Auld and Boyd!

  581. avatar_58 says:

    In all seriousness I can see PK being our franchise man down the road. Much like Markov. They cannot allow this kid to go, trade everything to clear up salary for his big payday please.


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