TGIF? Not for the Canadiens

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The team starts a busy weekend with a game at Scotiabank Place against the Senators.
Then it’s Ottawa at the Bell Centre Saturday night and a trip to Halifax to face the – boo! hiss! – Boston Bruins on Sunday.

Here’s some reading to tee up the weekend hockey action.

Pat Hickey on Scott Gomez

Mike Boone on P.K. Subban

Dave Stubbs on Mark Streit

Hickey on Brendan Shanahan

Stu Hackel on Shanahan

Sean Gordon on who’ll make the Habs

138 Comments

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  2. SHUTTemDOWN says:

    HERE’s some justice for the banana peel incident:

    Group of Caucasians make citizens arrest and physically remove ingnor-anus from London arena!
    Justice from a silent majority… where could we be, if only it was always done instinctively and w/out tempting those w/ a 500$ reward.
    P.S. to Riverview- Wake the F#$% UP!

    “The sh*t is CHESS!NOT CHECKERS.”

  3. jo_maka says:

    We all love the kid. For real. But hot damn did Boone go in :D That was some funny stuff :)

  4. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Gordon doesn’t mention Yemelin in his article. Is he considered a lock given Markov’s injury?

  5. HABZ24 says:

    its high time all head shots were out right banned. stiff penaltys should be layed on offenders of head shots.there should be set suspensions eg,first offence 1 game, second offence 10 games, third 20 game suspension. none of this judge case by case garbage.

    GO HABS GO

  6. Hobie Hansen says:

    I personally loved the suspension handed out to Shelly by Shananhan.
    Guaranteed if Shanahan was is power last season that Chara would have got something.

  7. HabinBurlington says:

    Okay for all you Guy Boucher Fans here you go.

    http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/video-_conductor_boucher/

    @HF72, you seem to be a man of the Arts, your critique is welcomed on Mr. Boucher’s Orchestral skills.

  8. punkster says:

    I like the new poll feature.

    I don’t like the banana incident.

    I’m so-so on the 5 plus 5 suspension.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  9. Paulin98C says:

    In the RACISM discussion below, I would just like to get some of your opinions as “outsiders” with this local story here in Halifax.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2011/09/16/ns-africville-trust.html

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2011/09/20/ns-africville-nixon-past.html

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2011/09/21/ns-africville-nixon-gone.html

    Racism gone?

    Sorry HIO for posting cbc links… I’ll be promoting the website (HIO)during the game in Halifax to compensate.

  10. HabinBurlington says:

    Just noticed the poll question (yah I know very observant of me) anyhow submitted my vote and saw the results.

    My question is to Boone and Stubbs, can we get the 10 people identified who voted that Habs don’t make playoffs? hehe really nothing will happen to them, but I would like the names.

  11. HabFarmer says:

    (Note: I tried to reply to the thread about racism but it popped me up to the top. Oh well, coffee break over back to work)…. .Unfortunately the Web is a great place for people to expound upon their delusional views about race and racism. All you have to do is read the comments on Sun Media stories touching on race, and you’ll see that these things are tolerated, and Sun Media is a mainstream (but not particularly credible) news organization. I’m not even talking about the back channel stuff. Just a couple of days ago, on one of the HIO threads @pmaraw made a comment about how all the fans at the Jets home opener were so excited because they were a bunch of drunken Indians, and the comment stayed up for over an hour before someone complained and magically it was taken down.

    The Web is a great place for quacks and freaks to find a forum.

    “No, I see. The monkey’s out of the bottle now!”

  12. Subban is still day to day with his back according to Marc Antoine Godin.

    http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

  13. JF says:

    Andreas Engqvist is playing his third consecutive pre-season game, which means Jacques Martin is giving him serious consideration for one of the few remaining roster spots. If he can “play well without the puck” (a JM mantra), be defensively responsible, and win faceoffs, he has a good shot at it. After not winning a single faceoff against Dallas, he won six of ten against Buffalo.

    • savethepuck says:

      Martin also said he’ll be playing with better linemates against tougher competition to better assess him. I personally thought he was invisible the first 2 games except for a scoring chance against Dallas but JM said he is good without the puck, and I’ll be the first to admit that how someone plays without the puck is not something I follow when watching a game unless I catch it on a replay of a goal when someone screws up.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

  14. RiverviewCanadien says:

    This is one flavor I don’t think I want to try

    http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2011/09/22/18724351.html

    • What I don’t get about this is why some group of moms think they can dictate what is and isn’t sold in a free market. You don’t like it? Don’t buy it.

      http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

      • Everlasting1 says:

        You don’t get why women (and many parents inc. dads) would find the name offensive/vulgar? They would take great exception with their kids screaming, ” We want Schweddy Balls!” for ice-cream. The suggestion of not buying the product is simplistic.

        ——————————————————————-
        “And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the Dragon, and the Dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not. Neither was their place found anymore in Heaven. And the Great Dragon was cast out, that old serpent called the devil and Satan which deceiveth the whole world, he was cast out into the Earth and his angels were cast out with him.”
        [Revelations 12:7-9]

        “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    • savethepuck says:

      That was one of the funniest SNL skits I’ve ever seen. Guaranteed to be on every SNL Christmas Special aired.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

  15. @Riverview

    could you give us the name of your favorite warner brothers laugh skit? and if its on youtube that would be great…

  16. HabinBurlington says:

    So tonight’s roster includes all 3 of our Power Forwards, Cole/Max-Pac/AK.

    Will JM do some tweaking tonight and have Cole/Gomez/MaxPac line?

    • savethepuck says:

      Think I read somewhere that Enqvist is centering Cole and AK

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Even if Montreal doesn’t have a goof ball like Jody Shelly or George Parros, I think the size and toughness issue with the Canadiens is becoming a thing of the past.

      I think right now Enqqvist is the lead runner center the 4th line and the guy is 6’3″.

      I don’t think you can call a group of 12 forwards small when you have Pacioretty, Cole, Moen, White, Enqqvist, Darche, Kostitsyn and Eller.

      I had a beer with Darryl Sutter in Calgary a few years ago and the team he told me that gave the Flames the most physical punishment were the Red Wings.

      And the Wings had maybe 12 fights that year and the majority of their team were Europeans.

      We might not have a goon but we’re not tiny anymore.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Agree 100% Hobie, slowly but surely PG is “tweaking” this lineup a little bigger every year. Key will be that we try not to lose too much footspeed along the way. We all liked Tom Pyatt, responsible on the ice, great speed and effort. He just didn’t have touch or size and had to be upgraded.

        I have not seen enough of Enqvist yet to see how he does in the area of speed, but the fact he is already gaining JM’s confidence in plays away from the puck is huge. That is JM’s number one pet peeve with players and is probably the single biggest reason he didn’t like SK and PooPoo.

        • Hobie Hansen says:

          Moen-Enqvist-White could be a darn good 4th line.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Absolutely. I know some people were frustrated by Moen last year, but in his defence he never got to play his proper position last year. He was being tweaked all over. His greatest success was a pure checking line winger. He cannot be expected to help out a 1st or 2nd line. He just doesn’t have that skillset.

            I like that line to bang and crash, just not sure how much of a checker Enqvist is. I really wish Ryan White was a more experienced centreman and the 4th line could be Moen/White/Darche.

  17. patches67 says:

    Best article in a while Mr Boone! It brought tears to my eyes and dampness in my pants.

    PK! PK! PK!

  18. HabinBurlington says:

    If the Habs indeed send Beaulieu back to Jr. and he plays there through the WJC, can he be brought up to big club in spring?

    If for some reason Markov comes back and reinjures the knee, would this be an option? I don’t really want to see Beaulieu brought up this year, but I suspect the temptation for the organization to even consider this is the fact that aside from PK, Beaulieu is probably the best skating dman they have to replace the specific skillset which Markov brings to the ice.

    Of course this is full of supposition, but assume Beaulieu plays WJC and dominates.

    • habs-hampton says:

      i’m pretty sure that the first year of his 3-year entry level deal (once he signs) would be used up if he plays more than 9 games this year. That would be bad for the Habs, but probably good for Beaulieu.

  19. RGM says:

    Hard to disagree with Gordon’s article – the roster is pretty much set coming out of camp. Guys are largely auditioning for injury call-ups. Unless one of the guys on the bubble really impresses in the pre-season I can’t see there being too much of an opportunity to be in the line-up on opening night.
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    GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is our year!

  20. ghutmehn says:

    I don’t know if the game will be blacked out or not, but if you have NHL Centre Ice, channel NHL10 says they are broadcasting Habs/Sens.

  21. Habitoban says:

    Nice upbeat piece on Lapierre in today’s Globe & Mail. Wonder if this is the turnaround that we were hoping would happen here.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/mad-max-not-so-mad-anymore/article2176968/

  22. zak says:

    Boone, the difference between Maurice, Flower and Kovy is Maurice and the Flower never let the fans down. they showed up every game. No comparison.

  23. Maksimir says:

    HEY! What the funk is this crap with the 30 free article limit in Mon. Gazette? That blows harder than Milan Lucic!

  24. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Why are we assuming that because this fan threw a banana peel on the ice, that it is immediately racist? Because of the color of skin of the player? Maybe society needs to change and not jump to conclusions and always assume the worse out of people.

    Whenever I think of a banana peel being thrown on the ground I ALWAYS interpret this to be a method of making the person slip, or mess up.

    EDIT: until facts are in, I never assume things, sometimes assumptions can be exploited and evolve into something that never was the initial intention

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Are you actually being serious? You believe that when the idiot threw the banana at Simmonds it was only his intent to cause him to slip?

      Edit: If the camera’s caught the guy and he was dressed like Moe, Curly or Shemp I might go with you on this.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        I somewhat agree With RiverviewCanadien. The guy that threw the banana is a complete tool but in today’s society racism barely has a pulse and any racist shouldn’t be given the time of day.

        I’m sure Simmonds chuckled for about two seconds and that was it. If someone calls me a honky or white trash I would laugh for about two seconds and that would be it.

        Hopefully security threw the guy out the back door and gave him a few parting shots.

        It’s 2011 not 1965. Racism is dead. And anybody who is racist is a non-factor.

        • RGM says:

          “in today’s society racism barely has a pulse”

          If only that were actually true, my friend. The Internet is a haven for hate speech and bigotry.

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          GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is our year!

        • im as politically incorrect as it gets, but what you just wrote gave me a migraine

          racism is far from dead

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Ironically in Toronto you would be punished much more severely if the object thrown had been waffles and it was directed at an entire team of complete imbeciles.

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            Cool well I work with people from every walk of life and have friends of many different cultures and maybe I live in a fish bowl but I’ve never had a racist thought in my life.

            If you look and the States and Canada, racism is a 1000% better than it was 50 years ago. The President is black, you have CEOs on Wall Street of every race or color.

            I prefer to look at the positives rather than some drunk fool throwing a banana or a stupid racist website.

            Think positive people and don’t dwell on the past.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Hobie, I hear what you are saying, but the point in this matter is the village idiot in London last night is a racist jerk. I would have just preferred his picture be put up on the morning & evening news and in the local paper. Let his peers decide how he gets treated.

          • Hobie, no one is calling YOU racist. You could be the least racist person on the planet and racism would still exist among the ignorant.

            http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

        • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

          You can’t be serious.

          Racism doesn’t have a pulse?

          Just because people aren’t being as overt about it as they did in the past does not mean it does not exist. There are many people in this world who are racist and are very much a factor in a very negative way.

          Being called a honky should make you chuckle. That’s because us honkies were never really put at a disadvantage because of our “race”.

    • the mario kart defence

      makes sense

      (slams head repeatedly on desk)

    • J_P says:

      Yet it just happened to be a banana, and it just happened to be thrown in front of wayne simmonds? seems very suspicious to me.

      • RiverviewCanadien says:

        My point is society is still clinging on to racist connotations

        Why are people associating bananas being thrown with a racist act?

        Just because it happened, does not mean it was intended to be what people thought.

        We all remember the Black Face PK FANS! No racism was intended there, poor judgement because of age old actions, but everyone still freaked out about it.

        And it is still ok in society to mock First Nations people, you see it at football games, baseball games, folks dressing in head gear, doing tomahawk chops.

        • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

          The fact that “it is still ok” to have a mascot named Chief Wahoo and have a grinning red Native American as your logo and having fans do a Tomahawk Chop while yelling “Hoooooo-ohhhhh-ohhhhh” is proof positive that racism and all the ignorance attached to it is alive and well in the world we live in.

          It’s not okay. It shouldn’t be.

          The Black Face incident was poor judgment and also a total disregard for history and the connotations of Black Face. It was an ignorant thing to do. I don’t think the guys that did it were necessarily racist, but clearly they have grown up in an environment that led them to believe there was nothing wrong with that. And RDS showed it and laughed about it. So, a young WHITE kid in Quebec could have seen that and wouldn’t understand that there is in fact a problem with it.

          Ignoring history and sweeping things under the rug is not going to get rid of racism.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          You don’t really want all those questions answered do you? This is not about a Florida State Football game or an Atlanta Braves game. This is an idiot making a stupid racist act PERIOD.

        • HardHabits says:

          The banana was clearly intended to signify that Simmonds was a monkey. It was racist. End of story.

          • RiverviewCanadien says:

            Could be HH. Maybe it was intended to be a Warner Bros laugh skit as well.

          • a warner brothers laugh skit?

          • RiverviewCanadien says:

            Just saying, we don’t have proof positive of the intent. Was it stupid, absolutely, but that is because we as a society still hold onto these connotations and relations.

            Would I have done that, not in a million years, because I know how sensitive society can still be. That should change, because as someone pointed out above, the US president is of African decent, and there are all kinds of people in high profile positions from all walks of life.

            It is certainly not like it used to be, but that is not to say it does not still exist. Some races are more sensitive to actions while others, society most definitely sweeps under the rug.

            If people are making this such a huge deal (when we have no idea what the intention was), why is there not a deal made about the professional sports clubs which target First Nations people? And the fans who follow along in their actions?

    • RGM says:

      If you want to play the role of defending that act, you’re going to find yourself in a very lonely position. When is the last time you heard of anybody throwing something like that on the ice during a hockey game? Are we honestly supposed to suspend our disbelief to the extent that it just happened to be a total coincidence that someone was throwing a banana on the ice at the moment that a black man was taking a one-on-one shot at the goalie at a key moment of the game? Come on, man!

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      GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is our year!

    • Deano says:

      Sorry River … you are wrong. It was a stupid, racist, ignorant act and, if it had not already happened once before in Montreal, I would have tempted to lump the whole London crowd into the shame.

      However, after thinking about it is just one stupid redneck, with an ever diminishing IQ who takes full responsibility.

      Just wish someone would have ratted him out.

  25. Marc10 says:

    Shelley got what he deserved, but yeah… They should have made it 10 regular season games + the preseason.

    Seeing decent punishment handed down only makes me hate Gary, Colie and Murphs that much more.

  26. J_P says:

    Whats up with all the shanahan praise? The only thing I will praise him for is the way he explained the decision. The issues with discipline was rarely how colin campbell treated goons like shelley. Campbell never had a problem throwing the book at a repeat offender like shelley, his problem was giving just punishment to players that can actually play the game (Mike Richards, Chara, Pronger, etc…).

  27. HabFanSince72 says:

    Todd Fedoruk has been mentioned recently as one of many cautionary tales regarding the role of hockey enforcer.

    Fedoruk has chronic pain from many fights. He sustained facial fractures on two occasions, once courtesy of Derek Boogaard, and had at least one serious brain injury during another fight that left him unconscious on the ice for four minutes. He suffers from recurrent bouts of severe drug addiction, requiring rehab on at least two occasions.

    Fedoruk has played 545 games in the NHL and scored an average of 2.5 goals per season.

    Now he is trying to make a comeback with the Vancouver Canucks. He knows why they want him: last night he engaged in two fights.

    Canucks assistant general manager Laurence Gilman said: “If he plays here, we expect him to play in the same manner.” (Meaning to fight and not do much else.) The Canucks are Rick Rypien’s old team as we all know.

    These people (owners, GMs, coaches, TV commentators, and the fans, the whole lot of sadistic enablers) are abusers. Pure and simple. They are running the Roman Circus, not a sport league.

    When Fedoruk gets knocked out, relapses, or just plain dies in a hotel room, they’ll just send someone else out there.

    The sport is very sick.

    • J_P says:

      When you put it like that, it is very disgusting. As much as i blame the enforcers for taking on these jobs (its all about the money), I do blame the teams for encouraging this behavior.

      However, I blame the league even more. If the league discipline office took care of business, these enforcers wouldn’t have to.

    • Tremblant Habs Fan says:

      How about CBC’s theme song for Hockey Night in Canada “Saturday Night is all right for fighting”.
      I’ve really taken a step back in the past year and changed my view on fighting(along with the cheap shots of course) and violence in the game. I would be quite allright if it was completely banned and we got Olympic style hockey.

      • frozengolf says:

        I agree that fighting should be long gone. If Bettman et. al. are serious about wanting the NHL compete with the other major league sports in the U.S., fighting has got to go. In all other big three league’s (NFL, MLB, NBA) if you fight in a game you are ejected AND get at least one game suspension. NHL has to follow suit or be considered a bush league

        The three important elements of hockey are: forecheck, backcheck and paycheck.

  28. Say Ash says:

    I recall last year’s pre-season game in Ottawa not being televised either. What’s with those guys?

  29. caladin says:

    @HabinBurlington
    Not yet. Last game they realeased it around noon.

  30. HabinBurlington says:

    Has the exact lineup for the Habs game tonight been released?

  31. RGM says:

    To invoke another article from this week about P.K., I #blamesubban for making the Habs fans love Subban.

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    GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is our year!

  32. RGM says:

    There’s a lot of talk this morning about how some racist ass threw a banana at Wayne Simmonds last night during Simmonds’ shoot-out attempt at a game played in London, Ont. For the life of me I cannot understand how some people can be so motivated by hatred that they would commit such an act. I checked Twitter this morning and there’s a lot of NHL’ers showing their support for Simmonds and condemning the act. I hope they identify the guy that did it and he gets barred from attending sports events.

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    GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is our year!

    • avatar_58 says:

      In london too, of all places. These people need to get with the times.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      When I watched TSN this morning they spoke of the incident. I couldn’t believe it happened. Unfortunately the report on TSN didn’t indicate if the fan sorry idiot was identified and at least thrown out of the game.

      Was shocked to hear of it.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Burl. Exactly. Why didn’t someone identify the racist creep and throw his but in jail.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          In my opinion the camera’s needed to catch the guy. Unfortunately, I am unaware of what he can be charged with aside from some petty charge related to throwing stuff on ice. I am not sure how he could get a jail charge. But let public opinion embarrass the crap out of this piece of dung.

          • RGM says:

            They could identify it as a hate crime and give the guy some community service or some such thing.

            ———————–
            GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is our year!

  33. caladin says:

    Great to see the new sheriff raising the bar. Last year Shelly would have gotten zero regular season games for that hit.
    Shanahan gives him 5.
    Even better IMO is the clear and public way he explained the reasoning. This means that when a star does the same thing next month, he will have no excuse.
    Great start Mr. Shanahan.
    Now let’s see how he treats a star.

  34. Un Canadien errant says:

    Brendan Shanahan’s decision to suspend Jody Shelley for his hit on Jay Rosehill hit all the right notes. A suitable length of punishment for a dangerous, boneheaded act. A clear explanation, on video no less, of the reasoning behind the decision. A clear statement that Mr. Shelley’s past transgressions were weighed in the decision.

    Meanwhile Pierre Maguire was on radio advocating for leniency because Mr. Shelley was trying to win a job with the Flyers and a suspension might result in him getting cut from the team. There was a mention that he is not ‘that kind of player’, to which one is forced to wonder if not he who is? Mr. Shanahan has a lot of work to do to overcome the old boys’ network in the NHL and its hidebound mentality and ‘code of honour’. This was a definitely positive first step in that direction.

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    How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • petefleet says:

      Where was Shanny when Chara hit Max? If we could role back time Chara would be suspended for 40 games compared to what the oothers are getting. I like what I’m seeing. All positive so far.

      ***Habs Forever***

    • 24 Cups says:

      As I said yesterday, I think Shanahan missed the mark. He had a chance to make a clear statement to the players and the league and didn’t. Five games isn’t enough in my opinion (the exhibition season is meaningless in this situation).

      Shelley is a thug but that doesn’t matter. The same suspension should have been applied to any player, including a Getzlaf, Subban or Malkin. The ralionalization that he was trying to win a job is total bs.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      While I want to commend Mr. Shanahan I have difficulty. To use pre-season games as part of the punishment is a complete cop-out. Of the 5 pre-season games he is suspended how many would he have dressed for, perhaps 2? So this is not a 5 game suspension, it is a “well he can’t play any more preseason suspension”.

      The 5 games of reg. season is a suspension and to me 5 games for a guy suspended twice last season when you needed to be really bad to get suspended is not enough.

      As for Pierre “Someone in the NHL please hire me” Maguire, his point is completely off base. Shelley has a one way contract for this season and next season. What is Philly going to cut him and still take the salary cap hit, or bury him in the minors for making a traditional “philly hockey play”?

      I have no understanding where Pierre is coming from except he tries to tow the old boys club to get a job in the NHL while pretending he is for the league moving forward, to appease his TV job.

      If indeed these preseason game suspensions are to somehow be accepted, Mr. Shanahan should tell us the formula of how many reg. season games a preseason counts for. There is no way in the world he can say a Preseason game suspension is equivalent to that of a reg. season game suspension.

  35. Captain aHab says:

    We’ll see just how serious the new sheriff is when a superstar seriously injures someone. I called the rest of pre-season plus a 5-game suspension yesterday but think about it: what’s it going to take for a very long suspension?

  36. HabsPEI31 says:

    I would love to have seen the Habs in Hali this weekend. It’s the one chance I have of getting to see them all year, as getting back home for a game is not financially or time-life feasible.

    But I have to wonder, why were tickets for that game (I’m not sure on the rest of the pre-season) on sale as of 9 April 2011? As far as I was aware, the preseason schedule didn’t come out until beginning of August, or thereabouts.

    I certainly understand the city and the respective teams needing to reach agreements prior to what-have-you. Yet the Habs tickets at the Bell Centre for the 2011-12 season didn’t go on sale in the middle of the 2010-11 playoffs!

    Some enlightenment would be appreciated.

    “Only a goalie can appreciate what a goalie goes through.” – Jacques Plante

    • RGM says:

      I can’t offer up much except “that’s the way they’ve always done it.” This is the third time I’ll be seeing a Habs/Bruins tilt here in Halifax and they’ve always gone on sale really early. It’s convenient (well, not so much this year as I was in Toronto the morning tix went on sale) and it gives for a nice slow build of anticipation.

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      GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is our year!

  37. HabFanSince72 says:

    Michel “Bergie” Bergeron thinks Nathan Beaulieu is ready to play in the NHL.

    I know the thinking here is he is too young, but would he learn faster in the NHL or back in junior? Would he develop faster in the NHL or in junior and then the AHL?

    • HabsPEI31 says:

      So called experts can think all they want, based on seeing one or two games from the kids.

      It is but a rare skilled player who can be a first round pick, and be NHL-ready.

      Just for his own development and maturity, I’d much rather see him spend another year or two in junior/AHL. Plus, the kid has the WJC to look forward to.

      “Only a goalie can appreciate what a goalie goes through.” – Jacques Plante

      • 24 Cups says:

        HabsPET31 – Great post. We can ruin our young players, like they do in Columbus, Phoenix and Atlanta, or follow the Detroit model.

        Leblanc, Kristo, and Beaulieu all need another two years to get ready. Tinordi will probably need three.

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          Do you actually have empirical evidence that playing in the NHL at a young age ruins players?

          I’m not saying I disagree – I don’t know.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Apparantly in the 80’s there is a litany of supposed soon to be great defencemen that the Leafs ruined by rushing them up. Personally I think the minute they were drafted by the Leafs their careers were shot.

          • 24 Cups says:

            Maybe not ruined just yet, but Bogosian, Filatov, Brassard, Turris and Mueller are all examples of players who were rushed too early and are now struggling to make their mark.

            MaxPac was a prime example for Montreal.

          • Chorske says:

            I think there are some special cases like Stamkos, who made the jump directly from major junior- although I’m sure his promotion was sped up because the Bolts were so damned desperate for a new face with which to market a struggling team. But players of his caliber are rare and are the exception that proves the rule. Beaulieu is no Stamkos, few players are. The majority of players benefit from the confidence, body mass, and maturity that comes from hitting the big leagues after moving through the junior and minor ranks.

      • cunningdave says:

        There’s that, and then there are logistics. You should pick Beaulieu if you think he is going to be head and shoulder better than any other option. If you have other options (as the Habs do), then you want him to develop for another year in Junior and not lose that year on FA eligibility. It doesn’t really cost the Habs anything to wait one more year.

    • Captain aHab says:

      I don’t think he’s ready weight-wise. He needs to bulk up because he’ll be the target of some hammering when he finally arrives.

    • CharlieHodgeFan says:

      I think Bergeron and a few others are faced with an uncontroversial camp. The battles are for marginal roles, and they are just trying to sell tickets to their shows. Bergeron knows you can’t base making a team on one game, and that Beaulieu is a real talent. So this will give the likes of us a controversy for a few weeks, and that gives the likes of him a job.
      Beaulieu is in PK’s old role – the star in the wings. He has shown a ton of raw talent, and I hope he gets to learn more and grow in junior and the AHL. I want to see this player on the Habs, but not yet.

    • DearyLeary says:

      I want to see him dominate at a level. He’s been very good in the Q, I want to see him be the best.

    • avatar_58 says:

      I say if people think he’s that ready send him to Hamilton.

    • Hoegarden says:

      Another Latendresse disaster in the making if he stays. A couple of games here and the back in the Q.

    • REB says:

      Can’t they keep him up for upto 9 games without affecting his FA status? If I remember correctly, the same situation applied to Neiderieter…

      A 9-game stint would give him some good exposure to the speed of the regular players, would give Habs management an opportunity to identify aspects of his game that need work, and allow both sides to develop a game plan to go forward with.

      There is little question that he has the raw tools and skills to make it in the NHL, but he is not yet completely ready. As somebody above mentioned, he is following the same path as Subban.


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