Ten players to watch at Habs’ rookie camp

The Canadiens’ rookie camp opened Thursday with 40 players going through physical exams and fitness testing at the Bell Sports Complex in Brossard.

The rookies will hit the ice Friday, with Team A skating from 8:30 a.m. until 10 a.m. and Team B from 11 a.m. until 12:30 p.m. Scrimmages will be held Saturday at 4 p.m. and Sunday and Monday at 11 a.m.

A number of Canadiens players did skate at the Brossard facility on Thursday, including Brian Gionta, Ryan White, Rene Bourque, Brandon Prust, Lars Eller, George Parros and Louis Leblanc.

Here is Pat Hickey’s fan guide to 10 players to watch at the camp:

Jarred Tinordi: His presence at the Canadiens’ golf tournament this week is one tipoff that the 6-foot-6 defenceman is sticking around this season. He added size and a physical presence to the roster down the stretch and in the playoffs last season.

Nathan Beaulieu: He received a break this summer when an Ontario judge gave him and his father, Jacques, conditional discharges after they were charged with assault at a party following a golf tournament. Now, it’s time for the 2011 first-round pick (17th overall) to put his puck-moving skills to use with a strong season in Hamilton with the American Hockey League’s Bulldogs.

Michael McCarron: It will be difficult to miss this year’s first-round pick (25th overall) because the 6-foot-5, 240-pounder is a physical presence. He’s a raw talent, but he’s in good hands in London, where brothers Dale and Mark Hunter run a first-class Ontario Hockey League junior operation.

Zachary Fucale: The first goalie chosen in this year’s draft had a 45-5-3 record as he backstopped a junior powerhouse in Halifax to the Memorial Cup.

Tim Bozon: A third-round draft choice in 2012, Bozon put up strong numbers with Kamloops in the Western Hockey League with 36 goals and 55 assists.

Ben Duffy: The undrafted free agent comes to camp with an AHL contract. Duffy’s lack of size — he’s 5-foot-10 and 177 pounds — might be the reason he was overlooked at the NHL draft, but it’s difficult to overlook his production. He had 39 goals and 71 assists last season with the P. E. I Rocket.

Magnus Nygren: The Canadiens took a chance when they selected Nygren in the fourth round in 2011. At 23, the offensive defenceman is older than most of the players in the camp and is coming off a 13-goal, 19-assist season with Farjestads in the Swedish Elite League.

Darren Dietz: A fifth-round pick in 2011, Dietz developed into a strong two-way defenceman last season with the Western Hockey League’s Saskatoon Blades. He had 24 goals, 34 assists and 100 penalty minutes.

Charles Hudon: Injuries have plagued Hudon, but he was a standout at the world juniors and will be making a return trip to the tournament as he finishes his junior career in Chicoutimi. He had 71 points in 56 games last season.

Sven Andrighetto: The Swiss forward is on the small side at 5-foot-9 and 182 pounds, but he put up 98 points in 53 Quebec Major Junior Hockey League games last season with Rouyn-Noranda.

(Photo  by Ryan Remiorz/The Gazette)

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  2. Un Canadien errant says:

    Video interviews of some of the Habs prospect, including a subdued and seemingly chastened Nathan Beaulieu who gives props to Pierre Allard for getting him in shape for the season, Ben Duffy, Zach Fucale, Michaël Bournival, and a jacked Tim Bozon, who looks transformed from last season’s draft and camp. Nice work kids.


  3. frontenac1 says:

    @habfab. Thanks amigo. Keep the Jam alive. Go Habs!

  4. frontenac1 says:

    @Timo. I’ll try my best amigo, but if I don’t I’m counting on you to Keep it Real. Respect. Saludos!

  5. HabFab says:

    JT is awake from her hibernation and blogging again, third this month so far;

  6. frontenac1 says:

    Going to Scotland Sunday. Single Malts, Kilts and Kippers. What can go wrong amigos?

  7. HabFab says:

    @UCe – read your comment over on HabsAddict. He still didn’t get it, probably believes you are a Leafer. Too funny!

  8. SSFN says:

    The current Habs if Briere brings his game and Price is on without any major injuries my prediction they can finish as high as 2nd place in the Eastern Division. Pittsburgh will finish 1st …

  9. HabFab says:


    Although #Habs prospect Sebastian Collberg is on the 3rd line in European Trophy play, he still hit the scoresheet today, his 3rd G in 4 GP.
    Artturi Lehkonen also suited up in European Trophy action, on KalPa’s 2nd line. However, he was held pointless in a 3-1 loss.

  10. frontenac1 says:

    Does Diaz wear those Leather shorts? Jeeze I hope not. Just doesn’t look right. Viva Diaz!Habs all the way amigos!

  11. Strabo says:

    Canada vs Venezuela for any basketball fans

    SN360 has the game on.

    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

  12. frontenac1 says:

    Mr.Roper from “Three”s Company” Mike Nelson from “Sea Hunt”was the Man!

  13. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Toews not impressed with Canada jersery…LOL


    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  14. sweetmad says:

    UCE I agree with you whole heartily,but as you well know HABS fans are not known for their patience,they want every thing done yesterday,and they want the best,even if the best is not available or we don’t have the money,they have a problem with wait and see.

    Also many are saying, we will finish a lot lower this year.How can this be, we have the enforcer they wanted,and the crease clearing defencemen,we have the big name forward,even though he is not big or any longer young.

    Are our team going to be worse than last year,I don’t see that any other team has improved a great deal.Some people even say the Laffs will be higher than us,yet every one has poo poo’d their signings,saying that they paid too much for so so players.

    I think our team will be better, they have got used to the system,hopefully with a few changes,they have got used to each other.The G’s should be more confident,Eller will get more ice time,and more responsibilty.The couple of players that did not do so well last year,will pick it up.Carey has the best goalie coach,so that should be okay.Yet the “FANS” have no faith.

    As the saying goes, some people are never happy.Yes we all want to win the cup,but so do 29 other teams.Its not the destination,it’s the journey getting there.So drop the puck and lets get started,on this journey,we have no idea where the destination is,it could very well be a 93 or even 2011,who knows,but what ever it is I shall be behind my team all the way.

  15. Maritime Ronn says:

    Several interesting opinions about specific Habs Dmen and where they fit in the Habs overall scheme – and whether or not they are too small or too slow or……

    Defense, or what should be looked at as Team Defense, is a complete 5 man Unit – not just individual Dmen.

    For Team D to be successful, it first needs an ‘above average performing goalie’, along with tremendous support from forwards in a ‘ D coaching system’ that is understandable and matches up well with player strengths.
    Of course dominant puck possession helps out, but that is another story…

    So the questions become, how did the Habs perform in those categories?

    When a goaltender plays well, he camouflages miscues of a Team D or system breakdowns.
    The best I ever saw in that category was Dominik Hasek in his Buffalo heydays.

    While Price played well in the beginning of the year, his end year and playoff performances were honestly awful and only highlighted the Team D miscues and breakdowns.
    If he makes save as Crawford and Rask did in high pressure situations, there isn’t a discussion.

    Next up, is support from the forwards in the D zone which was good in the beginning – not at all good at the end.

    With a goalie that had < .899 SP on many occasions, coupled with a confused group of forwards and Dmen that allowed big time scoring chances in key areas, the recipe for disaster came to fruition.

    As for individual Dman size, strength, mobility, toughness, perhaps the best Unit to compare the Habs to is where we stand with a recent 2 time winning Cup team in the past 4 years

    Ranked by 'total minutes played' in the Playoffs:

    Duncan Keith: 6'1"-200
    Niklas Hjalmarsson: 6'3"-207
    Brent Seabrook: 6'3"-221
    Johnny Oduya: 6'0-190
    Michal Rozsival: 6'1"-212
    Nick Leddy: 6'0"-191

    1st Unit PP: Keith-Seabrook
    2nd Unit PP: Leddy-Ruzsival

    1st Unit PK: Hjalmarsson-Keith
    2nd Unit PK: Seabrook-Oduya

    That group is all about puck movement with 'strength and toughness' sprinkled in, along with a nice mix of vets and younger guys.
    With what the Habs have at the moment, along with the prospect projections, are the Habs that far away? 2-3 years?

  16. jrshabs1 says:

    I’m going to side with Nilan on this one, he played the NHL game, he’s won a Stanley Cup. Can’t say the same for 99.9997% of the HIO posters.
    Raphael Diaz Playoff stats
    5 0 0 0 -4 0 0 0 0 10 0.0
    Not much upside there. Bigger is better on the back end.

    Go Habs Go!!

  17. pmaraw says:

    it kills me to think that Iginla is is Boston and Burke is in Calgary, yet he has nothing to do with Iginla being in Boston…. doesn’t he?

  18. frontenac1 says:

    My wife thinks he’s cute? What’s that got to do with sh#t? My wife thinks I’m cute…….wait a minute, that’s not true. Just the Whiskey talkin amigos.Saludos!

  19. Un Canadien errant says:

    Gaston Therrien blogging on rds.ca about camp, and responding to a poster who claimed that Nathan Beaulieu is the best defenceman prospect on the Habs, over and above P.K. and Jarred Tinordi:

    Subban tout comme Tinordi sont supérieurs à Beaulieu à BIENS des égards. Le hockey ça ne se joue pas que sur la glace. Ça se passe aussi entre les deux oreilles. Tinordi est matûre, il agit en leader, il est bon défensivement (Bien en avant de Beaulieu à ce chapitre)il a une bonne éthique de travail et son développement est constant. On ne peut en dire autant de Beaulieu. Son Égo et le côté prétentieux de sa personne l’on mis plus d’une fois dans l’eau chaude. Il a certainement le POTENTIEL pour devenir un excellent défenseur à caractère offensif, mais au moment d’écrire ces lignes, il est loin d’être prêt. Et surtout bien loin d’être comparé à un gars comme Subban.



    “Subban and Tinordi are superior to Beaulieu in MANY areas. Hockey isn’t only played on the ice (? I think he means a hockey player’s career doesn’t just unfold on the ice) What goes on between a player’s ears matters. Tinordi is mature, acts as a leader, he’s good defensively, far ahead of Beaulieu in that regard. Tinordi has a good work ethic and his development is constant. We can’t say the same about Beaulieu. His ego and his pretentious side have landed him in hot water more than once. He certainly has the POTENTIAL to become an excellent offensive defenceman, but as of this writing he’s far from ready. And certainly very far from being compared to a guy like Subban.”

    So, some people will accuse Gaston Therrien of having it in for Nathan, of being too quick to judge, but the guy is there at camp watching all this, and speaks with coaches and others off-the-record, he knows what the mood is about the young man. I’ve covered these before when I talked about the red flags surround Nathan. I was glad to read Jessica Rusnak’s tweet that he’s been training in Brossard, let’s hope he gets some mentorship, some leadership from other more mature Canadiens, and that some of their good habits rub off on him.


    … you know, because there’s no way hundreds of overcompetitive stars with massive egos would ever cheat to gain an edge with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake..–Bill Simmons


    • knob says:

      Beaulieu will be at best a #4 guy that thrives on the power play.

    • Timo says:

      Sounds like an ideal candidate for Michael Therrien’s Personal Development Program.

    • JUST ME says:

      Beaulieu is a big guy. He can skate has a good vision and hopefully will make it with the habs roster. If not he will succed somewhere else in the league . For all the times we heard complaints about our D being small for once we have a big boy with temper but he can defend himself and is not scared of being pushed aroud. Let`s give him a year or two and we will be happy we waited. Yes a tad immature but obviously runs in the familly somehow.

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      “Attach Brian Campbell’s legs to Andrei Markov’s body and you’ll have a really smart hockey player with four legs. Now, remove Markov’s original legs and you’ve got Nathan Beaulieu”
      -Sean Bonjovi

    • Morenz7 says:

      I was pretty disgusted by the details of the assault incident read into the record. A kid can make mistakes and shape up; hopefully, his parents can be part of the solution. But when a guy’s dad gets drunk and acts like a Grade 8 bully … yikes.

      Hopefully Nathan can chart his own, better course.

  20. 24 Cups says:

    “On June 11, 1988, Mike Modano was taken first overall by the Minnesota North Stars at the NHL Draft in Montreal. Less than a month later, on July 8, Allison Micheletti, the daughter of former NHL defenseman Joe Micheletti, celebrated her first birthday.

    This is important because now Modano and pro golfer Micheletti are married.”
    (Sam Gardner)

  21. Un Canadien errant says:

    Polarization on HIO? How odd. Today’s topic of discord is Raphaël Diaz, and whether he’s an excellent offensive defenceman, or whether he’s crap and shouldn’t be playing on the team this year.

    Why can’t we split it down the middle? Let’s agree that he’s a good skater and puck mover, shows some affinity for the offensive side of the game, can break out of the zone pretty well, and is valuable at this juncture for our team since he’s a rightie, the only one on the blue line with P.K. Let’s also allow that while he has shown this in flashes, he hasn’t been able to put a full convincing season together, due to injuries, lockout, Jacques Martin, etc. Let’s admit that when the elbows fly and the refs won’t blow their whistles and slow things down because they have a plane to catch, he’s at a disadvantage, as he is when he has to go dig the puck out of the corner against Patrick Kaleta and Steve Ott.

    Since he’s the only rightie other than P.K., and since our young D-men in Hamilton aren’t really being held back, since they all could stand to spend more time learning the pro game in a lower level, and since there seems to be a pretty good fit in partnering him with Douglas Murray, whose strengths will make up for Raphaël’s areas where he’s challenged, why don’t we give him half a season to prove himself? If it’s a disaster, and doesn’t work, we can make adjustments mid-season. Easy-peasy.

    Here’s a player we signed for free out of Switzerland, he’s a UFA next summer so his contract isn’t an issue, and he can still improve, as he’s done consistently since he first took to the ice in bleu blanc rouge. There’s no need for histrionics, this is just one of many variables on the team that need to be monitored and addressed if game action demonstrates it’s necessary. Maybe Raphaël puts it together this year, thrives with the burly Swede next to him, and proves himself worthy of a new contract, or we figure he’s dispensable and can flip him before the deadline or let him seek his fortune elsewhere in July.

    We can all give our opinion and predictions on this matter, but we shouldn’t drag Chris Nilan’s good name into this, and shouldn’t be calling each other names, that’s the Bruins’ fans job.

    … you know, because there’s no way hundreds of overcompetitive stars with massive egos would ever cheat to gain an edge with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake..–Bill Simmons


  22. Lafleurguy says:

    Torey Krug was very effective for the Bruins late last season and in the playoffs. His previously unnoticed skills came to the forefront when he was placed among physical teammates. I say “unnoticed” because Krug was an undrafted free agent signing by Chiarelli. He ranked ahead of larger albeit one-year younger Doug Hamilton on the Bruins’ depth chart. Krug stands 5’8″. This post is actually about Diaz.

    “Where’s the Beef?/What’s the Beef?”

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      My caution has always been that Torey Krug was sheltered, in that he was one small but mobile d-man amongst the giants on the Bruins blue line. Raphaël Diaz hasn’t had that luxury, partnered with Josh Gorges, Andrei Markov, with Yannick Weber and Tomas Kaberle on the team. But now with Douglas Murray on board, Alexei Emelin poised to return mis-season, and Jarred Tinordi waiting in the wings, we’ll have an opportunity to partner him with a defenceman who complements his game better.

  23. Sportfan says:

    Do the islanders really need a news conference to tell us why Tavares is their new captain?

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  24. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    One thing that Nilan is wrong about is having Diaz replaced by Tinordi or Beaulieu. Rookies D-men should not be brought up and put on their opposite side…makes no sense. It’s like playing a new postion at a harder level. Look how long it took Emelin to adjust…

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Eddie says:

      Right now Diaz is our only 2nd line power play defenceman. We have Subban, Markov and Diaz who can play the power play.

      I know Gorges can play the right side. He played there with Gill and Gorges played some of his best hockey during that time.

  25. Morenz7 says:

    Re Malone vs. Emelin: here’s part of the prelude, and he pasted Malone twice after that.


    Worth remembering that Emelin can’t really fight even if he wants to, due to the titanium plate in his face. So while Malone might have bested him with the gloves off, I don’t think Malone frightens Alexei one bit.

  26. sweetmad says:

    We seem to be very devided on Diaz,there’s as much love as there is derision,even maybe a bit more love.I think he is a really good hockey player,I know he’s not huge or particularly physical,but he does hit,he makes good passes,and as they said at the worlds,he was one of the best on the blue line,at the worlds.If you watch him play,when he is on the blue line virtually nothing gets past him,at the beginning of last season,he was a big part of keeping the puck the the offensive end.

    I don’t care what Nilan says,I think we are better with Diaz than without,and if we trade him I think we will be sorry.

    Also he adds to the eye candy ,for us girls.

    • Habfan17 says:

      I have no problem with Diaz, I think he is a very good player. I do not agree that the Habs would be sorry if they trade him. If Nygren proves he is ready and is as good as Diaz, then I would say trade him if they can get something of equal value in return. If they can’t get something now, then place Nygren in Hamilton until the deadline or a team has injury trouble. Where I see potential for a trade is from the left side depending on who is ready to step up. Markov, Emelin, Gorges, Tinordi, Murray, Boullion, Beaulieu, and Drewiskie all shoot left. Pateryn may be ready for the 3rd pairing on the right side and may make a good tandem with Murray.

      This should be a very interesting training camp and season.


    • Habs4LifeInTO says:

      My wife thinks he’s cute as well….

      24 cups and counting….

  27. secretdragonfly says:

    Well, that’s good – the news that Tavares will be named captain of the Islanders has finally knocked Burke’s face from its prominent spot on tsn.ca.

  28. habs001 says:

    Lets see what Diaz can do this year…Hopefully Diaz can improve his d zone play and be a bit more physical…I remember last year in the Spengler Cup when Canada applied the forecheck he was over his head…Same thing happened in the playoffs… He can put up some points and be effective on the pp….Even last year at the beginning of the season when he was putting up points he was weak in his zone but he was getting away with it without being scored on but his type of d zone play will result in goals…

  29. frontenac1 says:

    Now Nilan isn’t a Hockey Player?! What the hell is going on here today? That’s it. I’m switching to whiskey. Saludos!

  30. shiram says:

    On Tinordi and his playing in the AHL or NHL. I believe the NHL should not be handed to him, there’s camp and that should enough for the powers that be evaluate if he’s good enough for the big show.
    I got no problem with him getting 25+ minutes in the AHL this season, over getting 10-12 in the NHL.
    I just wish we had other guys around then Bouillon and Drewiske.
    Drewiske should be gone way before Diaz if you ask me also….

    • Timo says:

      Ah yes, Drewiske… MB’s prized acquisition.

    • habs11s says:

      IMHO, He should be in the AHL playing top pairing minutes to start and then move him up if injuries occur.


      “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

    • JohninTruro says:

      Guys how many 7th and 8th defensemen out there are that much better than Bouillion on Drewiske? These are serviceable NHL d-men that can fill in as a 5th and 6th when injuries occur. These are not to be confused with top 4 D. I can’t understand the distaste for these re-signings, they were in fact brilliant, the right thing to do. How quickly are we forgetting the issues year after year with not having any D that can step in when one is injured? Yes, you’re right let’s sign Hainsey to a 3.5m contract of which we do not have so he can be our 5th or 6th d-man. These are smart signings guys to fill their role.

  31. frontenac1 says:

    Huh? Crapping on Nilan now? Really?

  32. The Cat says:

    If I were MB, and most will say thank God Im not as usual, but Id see what I can get for Emelin and keep Diaz and Tinordi. Just like when I said Komisarek lost his mojo when Lucic destroyed him and he would never be the same; I believe Malone did some of that with Emelin.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Thank God you’re not MB 😛

      But seriously….thank God.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • The Cat says:

        Yes cause if Emelin got a good return, then thatd be stupid…

        [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

        • Habsrule1 says:

          Everything is always dependant upon return, but Emelin is the type of defenseman every team wants. Sound defensively, small offensive upside and huge hitter.
          If he’s healthy, there’s no way I want him traded.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

          • The Cat says:

            Yes I know all the players are great, the coaching and gm are great and yet other than out of this world goaltending from you know who, this team hasnt really been any where near where it needs to be for many years.

            [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

          • Mattyleg says:

            But if you’re saying that we’re labouring under the misconception that our players are all great, I would say that you are under the misconception that most other players are better than the ones we currently have.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Mattyleg says:

          What would you improve upon?

          If we trade Emelin, we need to get everything he already gives (extremely hard and intimidating bodychecking, good work ethic, good defensive understanding, toughness and a pretty good shot from the point) plus something that Emelin doesn’t already bring to the table.

          I don’t see who we could get for someone who already has such a complete skillset.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Phil C says:

      Emelin got his mojo back when he fought Chara. He actually got one pretty good shot in I thought. Anytime you don’t get completely ragged-dolled by Chara is like a victory.


    • thebonscott says:

      Emelin hurt his knee hitting Lucic not Malone, and he will be fine, trade Diaz. Diaz is offensive D-man and a lot of teams (Colorado) need one.

      Habs Fanatic Since 1984

      • The Cat says:

        Malone went ape shit on Emelin, thats the incident Im talking about.

        [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

        • shiram says:

          But he played after that, it was 2 seasons ago, and he looked his usual self afterwards.

          • The Cat says:

            I could be wrong, Im just not seeing the same guy as before. theres timidness in them eyes now. Im going to toot my horn, but at the time I did say Komi was destroyed and to get rid of him everyone said no hed come back stronger, hes captain material etc…Just saying I dont think Emelin will live up to what we all initially believed. And since theres good youth, why not see what we can get for him.

            [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

          • Mattyleg says:

            I think it was certain fans who were more seriously affected and didn’t really recover.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Emelin is recovering from an ACL AND MCL injury and is a UFA…put your thumb and index finger together and that is what you’ll get for him now.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • shiram says:

      I’d keep all 3 of Emelin, Tinordi and let go of Murray in the off season, unless he really impresses.
      We still need the game that Emelin brings, and Tinordi too, Diaz is a righty D and we need him unless we can replace that.

      Interested in what you’d try to get for Emelin though? His value might be low considering he would be just returning from injury.

  33. mrhabby says:

    A gorgeous day in Southern Ontario. Loving the warm weather. Lots of pretty sites around…not thinking about hockey..lots of time for that, a very long season ahead.

  34. B says:

    The Habs really need to improve their PK this season. Will adding Murray be a big help there? Do they need to alter their system to be more aggressive (use their quickness) on the PK?

    –Go Habs Go!–

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Murray should help. I’d give PK some PK time. In addition, some better goaltending by Price should help as well.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Improve PK? Isn’t winning the Norris enough?!?

      Some people are never happy!


      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  35. Hobie Hansen says:

    Our buddy Chris Nilan is on the radio stating Diaz should not be in the lineup this year. Nilan would rather see Tinordi or Beaulieu in there instead of Diaz.

    • Bripro says:

      Which station?

    • Timo says:

      It’s like saying that water is wet.

      • Bripro says:

        I don’t get your hate toward Diaz. Unless of course you’ve resorted to sarcasm.
        I realize it’s not your mode of operandi.
        Did you watch him early in the season last year before he went down?
        I’d like to see the stats that he and Emelin amassed together.
        They were a very effective shut-down pair.

        • Timo says:

          I don’t hate him. Just would rather not see him in the Habs lineup. Same goes for Bouillon and Gorges.

          • Bripro says:

            I’ll give you that the Cube is a little long in the tooth now, although he still shows more heart than most.
            And Gorges had a mediocre year last year, but he’s a pretty reliable stay-at-home D. Not top-4, but a 5th or 6th for certain.
            And I like Diaz. He’s got good hands and great vision. His tape-to-tape passes remind me of a younger Markov.
            Pairing him with Murray this year will be as effective (I hope) as it did with Emelin last year.

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          Is there anyone associated in any way shape or form with the Canadiens that Timo doesn’t hate?

          And yet he can’t wait to see them play.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      I know disagreeing with Chris Nilan on here is anathema, but really what does he know about hockey at the coaching or managerial level? Sorry – but he can barely keep his life together. I would rather hear what Mike Milbury thinks.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        Try tuning into the show, I haven’t heard one caller argue with his statement. It seems you are in the minority on virtually every comment you post on here? Must be tough?

        I think it’s time to step back, really examine the game of hockey, and maybe get a fresh start?

        Or as I’ve told you on several occasions, watch women’s hockey or switch to tennis. It seems you’re offended that hockey is a very physical game that requires size and toughness, that can be violent. If’s it’s all skill and finesse you love exclusively, you’ve seriously got the wrong game.

        The team lost last year because they were too small on defence…not sure how you can’t agree with Nilan?

        And to say the guy can hardly keep his life together is pretty low. He’s made a huge comeback and has an entire city behind him. The guy is 10x the man than you’ll ever be.

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          No problem being in the minority.

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            It’s always good to stand behind your point and there’s nothing wrong with being in the minority. However, with all the punches Nilan has taken to the head and all the partying, he still has more hockey knowledge in his pinky toe than you do in that entire coconut of yours. You should listen and learn.

          • H.Upmann says:

            funny insult considering 72 has a torture chamber at the McGill Neuro institute just for HIO nuts like you and me 🙂

        • sane hockey fan says:

          Yeah but apparently “he can barely keep his life together”. Therefore his opinion on hockey is worthless. (Which informal fallacy is that again?) The many years of playing hockey at the highest level don’t matter.

        • Trisomy 21 says:

          Boy, the claws come out when someone of a status higher than a forum poster shares an optinion with Hobie. Relax with the cliche ‘go watch figure skating’ BS. You’re no more “right” than 72.

        • Nina76 says:

          Hoby Hansen I agree 100% with you. Bring on the big bodies we need them. GO HABS GO!!!!

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        First part makes sense about Nilan.
        Saying you want to know what Milbury thinks is comical at best… unless your were somehow trying to be fecetious, which most probably was not the case.

      • Habsrule1 says:

        Wow, you obviously have never listened to him. The guy knows his hockey.
        And his life seems to be going fine. He had his problems, but don’t we all? Very weak and slightly unexpected post from you, although I don’t read the site as much as I used to.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • GrosBill says:

        Surprising post HFS72. I would have to respectfully disagree on the Mike Milbury take. I assume that is sarcasm. I also think Nilan is entitled to his opinion, and judging by the responses, many value it.
        But really – Milbury? He is in my PJ Stock category…..

    • Phil C says:

      I would get would get rid of Gorges or Bouillon before Diaz.

    • tophab says:

      what about gorges our worst dman.

    • tophab says:

      hobie nilan was a fighter not a hockey player ask him about what he knows which is not hockey.

      • Cal says:

        Nilan was a player. He was a fighter that became a good player because of Claude Ruel, Larry Robinson, Bob Gainey and Guy Carbonneau. More than anything, Nilan wanted to contribute by giving ALL HE HAD for the team.

  36. Timo says:

    So… with Briere, Parros and Murray on board… what will be the The Gelling period this year?

  37. 25Stanleycups says:

    How I see the East.

    T Bay

    • JohninTruro says:

      I think everyone is ranking Detroit way higher than they deserve to be. Far too much respect given to Detroit in my opinion.

    • Bripro says:

      Detroit #1? With an aging group of vets?
      Islanders 5th?
      And the Isles, Laffs, Lightning, Carolina and Columbus ahead of our Habs?
      Sorry, but I don’t see it.
      Not even close.
      And Philly, IMO, will be much higher this year.

    • GrosBill says:

      My list would look something like this:

      Columbus-Tor-NYI-NYR in race for last two spots

      It is so hard to actually predict the outcome as most teams are capable of surprising IMO. Agree about the Det comments. I see them getting a playoff spot but not leading the East. I also think Philly will be better this year but even that is hard to say.

    • habs-hampton says:

      I really think both Detroit and Ottawa are over-rated. The Sens will miss Alfie and I don’t think Karlson is going to come back like he was 2 years ago.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      Is this supposed to be a serious post?

    • Hstands4Hockey says:

      Detroit is going to get smashed in the East this year. Chicago proved in the playoffs that once you start hitting them they run and hide. Boston, Toronto, Ottawa and Buffalo will show them what the east is all about. I’m sick of hearing how the “West is strong” because they have a higher playoff point cutoff (caused by horrible teams giving everyone easy wins)

      Rule #76: No Excuses, Play Like a Champion!

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Pretty blind not to see the Habs will be better than that. Either you are usuing reverse phychology on yourself or something else is up.
      Why not think that Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Eller, PK, Price and maybe Tinordi will all be better this season, and therefore the team should be as good or better. Not to mention the additions of Parros & Murray, making the team harder to play against.
      I just don’t get how people think the team is going to suck after the season they had last year.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  38. B says:

    Anyone else getting a huge blank whitespace between the links at the end of the article and the comments section below?

    –Go Habs Go!–

  39. tophab says:

    whats happening at camp?

  40. Bripro says:

    I would have to say that NHL.com’s fantasy pool leaves a bit to be desired.
    Most listed should not be disputed, except for perhaps the order of their ranking.
    But not only IMO should Phaneuf NOT be ahead of beasts like Chara, Kronwall, Doughty (one of the best rounded Ds in the NHL) or even as far down as Seabrook, McDonagh or even Bowneester, I’m not even sure I’d include him on the list anymore.
    He certainly doesn’t play like he did as a young stud in Calgary.

    • shiram says:

      But that depends on what rules for fantasy pools are used, as sucky as Phaneuf can be, he’ll rack up some points, and will hae penalty minutes and hits etc… if your fantasy pool counts those for points it could help his ranking….
      But yea, ranking is weird

  41. habs11s says:

    Other than the Habs, which team(s) are you excited to see play this season?


    “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

  42. 100HABS says:

    Ya gotta wonder about TSN. They’ve got Burke’s big face as the top story under hockey when this is small/old news. Brett’s new appointment number 2, and Bure’s jersey retirement #3. I would inverse all of those.

    Then again, I don’t control Toronna’s sports network…

  43. Hobie Hansen says:

    Jessica Rusnak ‏@JessRusnak 26m

    #habs nathan beaulieu has been training in Brossard all summer.

  44. Timo says:

    Man, the season can’t start soon enough.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Agreed my good man!

      Next Sunday night is the 1st preseason game on RDS. Big day of watching NFL before enjoying the Habs!

    • 25Stanleycups says:

      Is there a rush to start the griping?

      Can’t see where a team with questions surrounding Price, Desharnais, Markov, and if injuries with Eller, Emelin, or Gionta have healed. Or if newly acquired Briere, Parros, or Murray will integrate.

      And if Chucky, and Gally have sophomore slumps, or make steady progression.

      16 team conference, I say its a coin flip if this team plays any meaningful hockey all season. Especially, with an Olympic break.

  45. Un Canadien errant says:

    Stéphane Leroux of RDS explains that Nicolas Roy, a LHJMQ draftee of the Cape Breton Screaming Eagles, has been traded to the Saguenéens de Chicoutimi. The latter will apparently trade away Charles Hudon during the Christmas break trading period to recoup some of the draft picks they had to deal away to get Mr. Roy, who he compares to Sean Couturier.


  46. thebonscott says:

    Anybody reporting live from camp??? Dying for info here

    Habs Fanatic Since 1984

  47. Mavid says:

    9 days to go..just crossed the boarder into lovely New Brunswick

    Weed Wacker Gramda Smurf

  48. Maksimir says:

    Anyone see this: Habs Adult Fan club?


    At first I thought – wow, Habs porn?

    Then I went to the site.

  49. Strummer says:

    Looks like Brett Hull is going to be named a VP with the Blues.

    Seems risky after his unsuccessful co-GM gig with Dallas


    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      He had great years in St.Louis (86 goals scored in 1990/91), but it ends there.
      He makes super nice guy-former Habs GM Rejean Houle look like a rocket scientist or brain surgeon.
      This is all about PR and ticket selling optics and possibly some jock loving ownership. Think Messier Lite.

      His time as Dallas co GM was nothing less than a complete joke to the serious NHL hockey people..think about his Sean Avery signing and the debacle that caused.

    • D Mex says:

      I look at MLB, the CFL, and wonder if there another pro sport league that recycles names from the past as much as the NHL : Campbell, Burke, Snow, Holmgren, Nealy … the list is extensive, and Hull is just the latest.
      Could be that he has a bonafide business background, or maybe the Blues (and others) are as desperate to revive old fanbases as the Habs were when Gainey, Carbo and Jarvis were brought back.
      For some, actually quite a few, what starts as a game becomes employment for life. Good work if you can get it 😀

      ALWAYS Habs –
      D Mex

  50. sweetmad says:

    Going back to the jersey,couldn’t they use our national flower,bird or animal,as wll as the maple leaf,anything to improve the design,or if they used a red slash, going from hip to shoulder,with a maple leaf in it,I know I could do better than this awful thing.

    • shiram says:

      Bring on the beaver jerseys!

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Its material makes it look really flimsy and cheap. The athletes don’t seem to be wearing them as much as being subjected to them.

      It also seems to be a case where a team of designers tries too hard to justify their salary, they come up with features and oddities and throw too much at the problem, instead of going with a simple, classic, tasteful jersey. Should be easy, the Canadian flag has nice colours and one symbol, don’t overdo it, but they can’t help themselves.

      I have to go back to the analogy of the hairdresser who instead of recognizing that your girlfriend has beautiful nice long lustrous hair decides that it should be his canvas for a radical asymmetrical hairdo that will speak to his genius, and experiments with it instead of letting her look good by just doing a couple of snips here and there and then getting out of the way.

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