Talking $$$ on the Lord’s Day

Brian La Rose has an interesting analysis of the Carey Price contract situation.

It’s all conjecture, because the Canadiens and their anointed Number 1 goaltender have done a good job of keeping the lid on negotiations … assuming they’re negotiating.

But it is thought that Price wants a three-year deal worth about $3 million per – equivalent, La Rose explains, to the second contract Cam Ward signed in Carolina.

The Canadiens – again, speculation – want to go short, maybe a two-year deal worth $4.5 million to $5 million.

Here’s what we know for sure: A week from today is Aug. 1, and training camp begins in September.

Unless he’s working on a trade or an FA signing, the Carey Price contract is the last item of outstanding business on Pierre Gauthier’s desk.

If the goaltender is not signed well before training camp begins, there will be a media feeding frenzy in Montreal. The word “holdout” will begin to appear in headlines.

The blogosphere will explode, with “spoiled brat” probably the politest phrase to describe the unsigned goaltender.

And the not-insignificant number of fans who wonder why the team traded its playoff hero will begin to wonder – if they don’t already – whether Carey Price wants to play for the Montreal Canadiens.

It could get fugly.

And a contract imbroglio will add to the pressure Price faces this season.

Josh Gorges in his local paper

• Michael Whitehouse on the Canadiens’ history of Quebec-born players

• Assessing Bob Gainey (thanks, showey47)

Larry Brooks bombs Bettman

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401 Comments

  1. likehoy says:

    no leverage doesn’t mean they’re happy with peanuts!

    dubinsky was offered something like 800k last year from sather and he held out till the day after training camp to sign a 3.7million deal over 2 years.

    the GM can play hardball cause they won’t lose the RFA to nothing.

  2. habrez says:

    When they say Cam Ward’s contract they are referring to his second contract, after his entry level contract, the 3 year 8 million dollar deal, not the 6 year 37.8 million extension he just received. If Price were to get the second contract that would be less money than Halak received (3.75 per versus 2.67) meaning we would save 1.08 million or two Dustin Boyd’s per year.

     

  3. The Cat says:

    You cant compare Price to other marquis RFA, Price is supposed to be the starting goalie. Big difference with a forward wholl be 1 of 12 forwards.

  4. crabvader says:

    Touche.

  5. ZepFan2 says:

    “Unless you have seen a contract to say Price will be cheaper is speculation not a truth.”

    Umm, practice what YOU preach. It’s an oldie, but a goodie.

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  6. andrewberkshire says:

    Everything you’ve said is pure conjecture. The bottom line is that you have no clue what’s going on. None of us do, but pretending Price has some magical leverage as a non-arb eligible RFA is living in a dreamland. Lack of leverage is why most of those players HAVEN’T signed. They can’t get the money they want because the teams know they have nowhere to go, so RFAs are being waited out until the break and sign lower money deals.

  7. Bill J says:

    Dig the new avatar for the humour you intend it as.

    I still think (I forget who has it though – perhaps Chuck) the Halak jumper Stop sign is one of the better ones.

    RE your question.

    If it was up to the media, the Bell Center would be opened up for a memorial service for “you-know-who” for that game.

     

  8. HardHabits says:

    You win.

  9. punkster says:

    LMFAO!!!!

    FREE TIMO!

  10. TripleX says:

    The only one freaking out is you.

    Some of us said from the beginning that PG had put himself between a rock and a hard place with the premature trading of Halak.  He compounded the error by signing a journeyman career backup in Auld.  Price was made the ONLY option by PG needlessly before he had signed Price.

    THAT was and is the argument.

    You among others called us out on it and said Price had NO leverage and would be signed quickly and for FAR LESS than Halak.  Well so far Andrew it has not happened.  Not saying he won’t sign for 2 million or less a year.  BUT I DOUBT IT.

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  11. TripleX says:

    You answered your own question.  ”marquee RFA” indicates a special status a rarefied commodity that has value to the team who holds the rights and on the open market.

    Price already had substantial leverage because of his “marquee status”.  What some of us have questioned is the logic of PG giving Price MORE leverage by trading away his only trump card in Halak BEFORE signing Price.  There is no question Price is the No.1 next season now.

    Again YOU are putting words in my mouth Andrew.  Where did I call Price a spoiled brat?  Price and his agent are only taking advantage of the leverage given to them by PG, that is not spoiled that is SMART.  But what they may be failing to consider is the impact on the fans, some of whom are already disenfranchised from Price.  It might be wiser for Price to swallow some pride and take a lower short term contract to prove himself to the fans and the PG.

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  12. JIMVINNY says:

    So you’re freaking out because Price has SOME leverage?  Who gives a shit?  You and everyone else who are blowing this out of proportion need to relax.  I’d rather Price have some leverage in contract negotiations than have PG sign him to a low contract, THEN trade Halak, and have a disgruntled #1 goalie who was signed under the false pretense of being a back-up.

  13. New says:

    On the other hand you could look at it as Price and the Habs will get it done, but there is more to the team than one contract. There are other issues, other careers, at stake. Price’s career is not at stake. That will get done. The other things are “ifs” and Price and the Habs are waiting on the ‘ifs’.

  14. SeriousFan09 says:

    Well since we’re playing in St. Louis, we’ll have to look to post-game moments really, like interviewing Lars Eller on scoring the GWG against the team that drafted him.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  15. Hockey Socks says:

    I’m more looking forward to Saku’s return to the Bell Centre.

  16. TripleX says:

     

    I did not say Price has control over contract negotiations, only that he has significant leverage.

    That means PG must negotiate terms and salary and cannot dictate the proceedings.

    Yes, a quick signing would have occurred if EITHER side has a significant advantage.  A stalemate usually indicates BOTH sides have leverage.

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  17. andrewberkshire says:

    Name one marquee RFA who isn’t arbitration eligible who’s signed of his own volition since the summer started. You can’t. I guess every single RFA is a holdout spoiled brat then.

  18. Doctor Device says:

    Yeah, if indeed any concern about whether Price wants to play for the Canadiens starts, it will be because of the media and nothing else.  Granted it’s frustrating (I assume) when there is no story, but making stuff up and creating a controversy is pretty weak.  Unfortunately it’s also SOP for the sports media, and media in general, these days. 

    I believe in Carey Price:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikeCcQg6sf4

  19. JIMVINNY says:

    That logic works both ways, fella.  If indeed he does have all the leverage, then why hasn’t PG just jumped on whatever deal Price wanted?   Because if what you say is true, then Price can just ask for whatever he wants, and PG has to deal with it, because he has all the leverage.  And Price should be signed by now.

  20. JIMVINNY says:

    Obviously you missed the point of my post, but anyways…

     

    That means squat, and you know it.  The Canadiens organization is notorious for it’s ability to keep things like this under wraps, and Price has never been comfortable with the press, so why would he go blabbing now.  Anyways, not a single one of your multiple journalists has ever provided a source, and so it remains speculation, and nothing more.

     

    As for my view, it is my opinion that he is asking for something in that range.  But until I hear something concrete to back that up.  It remains nothing more than just that, an OPINION.

  21. JIMVINNY says:

    The only contracts that are eligible for bonuses are entry-level deals, and contracts for players over 35.  As fars as I know, Price doesn’t fall into either of those categories.

  22. andrewberkshire says:

    I’m guessing the Canadiens won’t be in charge because it’s in St. Louis.

  23. SeriousFan09 says:

    Whoa, what’s this with bringing logic into the argument?

    Good way to remind everyone a lot of marquee RFAs remain unsigned.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  24. Danno says:

    The perfect snack to blog by this time of year.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  25. sh00n says:

    Yeah, they’re going to sing the national anthems, have the kids skate out, have the teams skate out, announce the starting line ups and drop the puck.

  26. TripleX says:

    Unless you have seen a contract to say Price will be cheaper is speculation not a truth.

    So if Price’s agent is playing hardball and demanding Cam Ward money then Price is also wrong.

    If Price is holding out for BIG MONEY any fool can recognize that with already negative reactions among some fans to the trading of Halak, it will only increase the pressure to perform.

    I am only stating what the most VOCAL element of HIO have been saying about the Price issue ad nauseam all summer.

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  27. ooder says:

    why is this such a big deal??

    honestly who cares…. none of us have anything to do with the contract negiotations or the team organization

    i honestly don’t give a rats behind about when price signs, doens’t affect my life in any way

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    88 is the new 23

  28. TripleX says:

    When the same story and same exact figure of 3 million per year come from multiple journalists.  It is likely there is at least a little bit of fact involved.  To deny it all as fantasy is simply an unwillingness to accept anything in opposition to one’s own views.

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  29. punkster says:

    BB, I’m realistic and I know the price for Price will be much higher. Just expressing my extreme view on NHL salaries really. I think the money they throw at these kids is obscene but it’s a free market and that’s life. Doesn’t mean I have to agree with the approach. I never agreed with it in my work. Setting objectives and paying for performance proved to be a reasonably good method of getting the most out of people. I found that those who were granted considerably larger salaries with no track record to back it up, other than potential, quite often failed to deliver. Not always mind you. Just often enough to be a drag. Does it apply here? Maybe, who knows, but we will see in the very near future, won’t we?

    FREE TIMO!

  30. sholi2000.com says:

    But hey it’s funny laughing at the same people day after day.  It’s Summer :)

    They Call Me Shane

  31. HardHabits says:

    Anybody care to guess what pre-game ceremony the Habs have lined up for the St. Louis game?


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