Talking $$$ on the Lord’s Day

Brian La Rose has an interesting analysis of the Carey Price contract situation.

It’s all conjecture, because the Canadiens and their anointed Number 1 goaltender have done a good job of keeping the lid on negotiations … assuming they’re negotiating.

But it is thought that Price wants a three-year deal worth about $3 million per – equivalent, La Rose explains, to the second contract Cam Ward signed in Carolina.

The Canadiens – again, speculation – want to go short, maybe a two-year deal worth $4.5 million to $5 million.

Here’s what we know for sure: A week from today is Aug. 1, and training camp begins in September.

Unless he’s working on a trade or an FA signing, the Carey Price contract is the last item of outstanding business on Pierre Gauthier’s desk.

If the goaltender is not signed well before training camp begins, there will be a media feeding frenzy in Montreal. The word “holdout” will begin to appear in headlines.

The blogosphere will explode, with “spoiled brat” probably the politest phrase to describe the unsigned goaltender.

And the not-insignificant number of fans who wonder why the team traded its playoff hero will begin to wonder – if they don’t already – whether Carey Price wants to play for the Montreal Canadiens.

It could get fugly.

And a contract imbroglio will add to the pressure Price faces this season.

Josh Gorges in his local paper

• Michael Whitehouse on the Canadiens’ history of Quebec-born players

• Assessing Bob Gainey (thanks, showey47)

Larry Brooks bombs Bettman

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401 Comments

  1. saskhabfan says:

    Price will be cheaper to sign then halak and has less leverage- right (price won’t get 3.75 million)

    Price will be signed so its not a big deal-right

    Whether it was halak or his agent, spewing through the media is wrong- right

    There is pressure on any goalie (or player) to perform any season so i don’t know why this is even an issue-right

    Not sure how he painted himself in a corner since price will be signed plus we will have cap space left without trading away core players-right

    Change the “our” collective memories to “yours”- right

     

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  2. badangel says:

    I have a few questions:

    1) How much is Price involved in the negotiations? Isn’t that his agent’s responsability? If so, why/how could anyone think Price is a holdout or brat. Truth is trading Halak and signing Auld (!?!?) gave Camp Price much more bargaining power.

    2) Why would the Habs only want to sign Price – the anointed number 1 and seemingly the franchise face of the team and “future” – to only a 2 year deal? I am assuming that the Habs think Price will become a great goalie so why would they want to re negotiate a deal in a couple of year when he might be vying for the Vezina? Wouldn’t they want to sign him at less for longer now if they believe in him that much?

    3) Assuming Camp Price wants 3M per 3yr and Habs want 4.5/5M in 2 yr – why not just offer the Habs price (2.25M per yr) and just add performance bonuses that could come to 3M per year ?

     

    No matter how much anyone may not like Price or not believe he is suitable for number 1 goalie I don’t think there is ANYONE who wants to see Auld as #1 goalie for the year.

    (oh in an unrelated question – pre season games.. why are most played in mtl? how come the habs don’t visit other cities? I am guessing it is because other cities wouldn’t be able to fill an arena during pre season?)

    I can’t believe it’s Sunday already :(

  3. HardHabits says:

    Well I’ve decided to stir the pot even further with a new HH avatar, so there. :p

  4. TripleX says:

    Answer one question?  

    If a player has no leverage then why would he not sign?

    The very fact these players have not yet signed and are in fact still negotiating indicates the opposite truth.

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  5. SeriousFan09 says:

    +1!

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  6. Danno says:

    Rumour, gossip, hearsay…

    Objection your Honour.

    The question is speculative and is leading the witness to answer on the basis of conjecture.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  7. twocents says:

    That’s not called refreshing our collective memories.

    That’s called emphatically asserting your unfounded opinions/predictions.

    Which is similar, some would say in this case nearly indistinguishable, from the general HI/O motto:

    In the absence of factual knowledge, assume the worst.

  8. Mattyleg says:

    Same old sadness.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  9. Mattyleg says:

    I like your last line, like.

    Lotsa time.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  10. Mattyleg says:

    That sounds pretty cool.

    Any stats/info on him?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  11. RGM says:

    What exactly are you asking? There’s no question there. It is truly amazing how small you are. You went to all that length to try and prove your wit, and you only made it halfway there.

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  12. JIMVINNY says:

    Well Boone wanted more hits, and he certainly is going to get them with a post like this. 

     

    I have to laugh at how this place has become the same, tired old journalists, posting the same, tired old subjects, to get the same, tired old lunatics posting the same, tired old rants.  Sad.

  13. derfab says:

    I agree that my last remark is weaker than those that predede it in the general argument. But no one with any real credentials has said anything about the length of his contract. People are just guessing based on RFA and UFA requirements. My main point is that he will not last in this city because he is more valuable elsewhere.

    character is derfab destiny.

  14. likehoy says:

    price has zero leverage, truth. refer to all the other RFAs with no contract yet.

    we still have a month and a half to sign price? what’s the rush? many RFA deals get done just before the start of training camp when both sides get a little more desperate

    the halak and his agent crap, who gives a flying fuuuuuuuuuu…..he’s gone, it’s over.

    that’s obvious.

    what are you talking about? wait till the last week of august before we take a dump on ourselves.

     

     

    i rather not have a GM who hits the panic button too soon when he has ample time to work with what he’s got.

  15. G-Man says:

    Did you read the word “speculation” or do you need a definition?

  16. ZepFan2 says:

    The Cat is a Nordique fan.

    Who cares what he has to say about the Habs.

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  17. TripleX says:

    Let’s refresh our collective memories.

    Price will be cheaper than Halak since he is coming off a so so year and has zero leverage.    WRONG

    Not signing Price BEFORE trading Halak was no big deal.  WRONG

    It is ok to blame Halak for whatever his agent says or does.  WRONG

    There will be no more pressure on Price to perform this season.  WRONG

    PG did not pull a major blunder and paint himself into a corner.  WRONG

     

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  18. ABHabsfan says:

    In an unrelated note; I had some beers with Tanner House’s dad the other night. Tanner House was an invite to the Habs development camp a few weeks ago.  Aparently the brass told him and his dad that they are interested in signing him but are going to wait till later in the year. He is in his last year at U of Maine. Calvin ( Dad) said that if he were to receive any interest from other teams that they were to call the Habs and they would make sure that he signed with MTL. He is a good under-the-radar player that could pan out given a couple years

  19. likehoy says:

    *ring ring*

    we have alex auld, cedric desjardins, and curtis sanford on contract!

  20. Bob Barker says:

    weak argument. 

    If he’s asking for a 3-year contract, he’ll still be an RFA at the end of it. He’ll only be a UFA-eligible at 27.


  21. alestar says:

    haters hatin’ is all it is…

     

    XXIV…and counting

  22. ABHabsfan says:

    A couple of opinions on the CP contract issues;Firstly I believe the agents do the negotiating and the player just waits until he is told that a deal is done. I may be delusional in this view but is it possible that the agents are trying to get as much for themselves as well as the player? Is it possible the player’s best interests are not paramount to these mouthpieces? Does anyone really think that a player should say,”you’re right, I sucked last year, just give whatever you can afford.”?
    As far as paying for potential, that is exactly what a 2+ year contract is about. If you only pay for what a guy did the previous year then you end up with Tim Thomas or GS Giguere, $6M sitting on the bench checking out the ladies in the crowd.
    I don’t know CP, never met him or even know anyone who has. But perhaps the kid deserves a little slack for just being patient and letting his agent do his job. This is still the same guy who had 20 thousand + fans chanting his name for the past 2 1/2 years more often than the couple hundred that booed him. This will get done and the Habs will be better for it.

  23. Clay4bc says:

    The aforementioned goalies also didn’t just come off of a 13-20-5 season, and lose their starting position to the teams other goalie.

    And just so you know, I’m also not provoking, just asking based on your own statement.

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    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  24. avatar_58 says:

    Has he asked for Cam Ward money? Funny because I thought it was BOONE who suggested “some think”. Nowhere do I see Carey, Gauthier or his agent quoted. Yet here comes the brigade ready to take everything posted as “fact”.

     

    FACT is no one has a clue what either side is doing but those two sides. So sit down and relax.

  25. punkster says:

    Good one Exit!

    FREE TIMO!

  26. G-Man says:

    Halak is overpaid. So are the other 2. Paying goalies that kind of money (like the Habs did years ago with Theo) without playoff performance is major league stupid. Does Halak deserve $2.5 to $3mil max for beating the Caps and Pens? Without a doubt.

  27. likehoy says:

    let us not forget when glen sather only offered brandon dubinsky 675k last year lol.

    at least they settled on 3.7/2 years.

  28. punkster says:

    You would disagree with anything PB says just to win the bet ;)

    FREE TIMO!

  29. Puck Bard says:

    Lol. Where’s Tony and Man (Crush) Apart when you need ‘em!  Though The Cat has a lot to say…

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…  wake me when we have a goalie. 

  30. Bob Barker says:

    Paying for potential would be paying Price with the expectation that he’ll post similar numbers as Rinne and Lehtonen. He has already done so, which qualifies as performance. 

    As you said, the precedent has been set which determines the market for RFA goalies. 

    You’re opinion seems to be that anything in excess of 1.5 million is paying Price for his potential when the fact is he has already performed similarly to the above-mentioned goaltenders. 

    Unless you believe that Rinne and Lehtonen were paid for their potential and not their performance, your argument doesn’t hold water.  

     

  31. Clay4bc says:

    Not only did Ward win a cup, but more impressively he won another important piece of hardware doing so…one that is far more difficult to win that the Stanley Cup, as only one player per playoffs is awarded it.

    The Conn Smythe Trophy likely added $1.5 mil per year or so to his contract…when Price wins one of those, he should definitely ask for Cam Ward money.

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    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  32. saskhabfan says:

    Then why didn’t trotter ask for a trade to another nhl team instead of bolting for the easy money? He was a rfa,i guess he had too much leverage like carey price apparently has,lol. Are you not overhyping trotter? Players don’t “die” to wear any jersey anymore. They die for the paycheck. That’s the reality of professional sports.

     

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  33. PrimeTime says:

    So predictable….slow and boring week (especially from the Commentariat) and Boone pulls out the Ace to finish it off and all the suckers play his game screaming their usual bs about a bs subject that no longer offers anything new. Keep banging your heads against each other, suckers! Best entertainment of the week. Thanks Boone!

    “People build teams in certain ways. I’ve always traded for futures – not pasts.” – Sam Pollock

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  34. Mattyleg says:

    AAAGHH!!!
    I”m really ANGRY!! So angery tHat Im spalling ,evrything wrogn!!!

    I dont undarstand waht I JUST READ!!!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  35. Mattyleg says:

    Although I respect what you’re saying about Price’s weaknesses etc, going with the flow and having faith doesn’t make you a ‘lemming’. Being critical and having a contrary opinion to assert your individuality isn’t always the most important thing.

    Sometimes you’ve just gotta have faith.

    Sorry for singling you out over this, but it really is aimed at a lot of people on this site, and your ‘lemming’ comment seemed like a good spot to make my point.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  36. derfab says:

    Carey’s leverage is synonymous with his star quality in a star system.

    From an nhl perspective, he is preordained and will remain so because the league needs products like him to sell crap to a grotesquely inflated and fickle fan base.

    The intriguing part is that he is a talented enough to remain valuable as a player for years to come, but his greater worth is more image-based and bred.

    He will not play out his career in Montreal because, being too close to the other solitude, he is culturally threatening to the deriere guard and will never be unconditionally loved or accepted here and he knows it.

    He is not signed yet because he (or his handlers) want the quickest and most lucrative road to UFA outta town.

    character is derfab destiny.

  37. saskhabfan says:

    To me,”the shrug” says it was out of frustration with being made the scapegoat for losing games when the team in front of him only scored 6 goals in 4 games against the bruins. But for some reason when the habs couldn’t score against the flyers this year it was the teams fault,not halak’s 0.845 save percentage in 4 loses. Another gem was price’s apparent weak glove hand but a link was posted that halak was actually beaten high glove side more then price was this year.

     

     Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  38. HardHabits says:

    PuckBard and I disagree, on the people part

  39. G-Man says:

    Hysterical. LMAO!

  40. G-Man says:

    They should have signed Price before trading Halak. Of course, not trading Halak and trading Price would have been smarter, but what the f%*k do I know? I’ve only watched the Habs suck rocks for 16 of the last 17 years now.

    Habs management desperately wants to prove they didn’t make a mistake drafting Price. Habs could and should have had Kopitar. Kopitar, Pleks and Koivu as top 3 centers would have looked pretty damned good right now, but, then again, what the f%*k do I know, right?

  41. RGM says:

    Halak ($3.75M), Lehtonen ($3.5M), and Rinne ($3.4M) all just received deals that pay more than Cam Ward’s last deal. How many Stanley Cups did they win last season? Do you classify their deals as ludicrous too? I’m not provoking, just asking based on your own statement.

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  42. Exit716 says:

    I think the truth needs to be revealed. Gauthier and Martin are both former Nordiques who are deliberately sabotaging the Habs going forward in order to help Pierre Karl Peledeau in his quest to get a team in Quebec City.

    They’ll screw the Habs up royally and once PKP buys Atlanta, they’ll jump ship.

    Simple as that.

  43. G-Man says:

    ” Why can we not just support our team and the decisions that are made?”

    We are not lemmings, that’s why. We were willing to throw some money at Halak because he proved he can perform in the playoffs. Price hasn’t.

    Price doesn’t allow rebounds because it’s usually the case that 1 shot (a floater) is enough. That “weaker teams” argument is pure b.s. when the goalie beats Washington and then the defending Cup champions. If Price can’t take the “too much pressure”, he should be in Hamilton.

    Price very much still has to show he can handle it. That “shrug” to the fans during the 2009 playoffs shows me he isn’t ready.

  44. G-Man says:

    Asking for Cam Ward money (speculation) after Ward WON a Stanley Cup would be ludicrous.

    2 years at $2mil. He has to show he can play regular season and playoffs.

    Paying him any more would be rewarding him for his effing “potential.”

     

  45. RGM says:

    Where on Earth do you get $5M per season from?

    The above post is a prime example of somebody with preconceived notions about Price simply going off on a rant without having actually thought about what they’ve read and wrote in response.

    If you actually read the original post by Boone you’d realize in about 3 seconds just how ridiculous your post is.

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  46. Xtrahabsfan says:

    10 million at 2 years for Price…..geeze ,an underperformers DREAM COME TRUE! Lets start rewarding all under performers ,shall we?….like the Mancrush Lemming Carey Price Fans who made all this possable ;and thanks for killing the Habs with this bullcrap. WHAT A FU@KIN BAD JOKE…..Molson boys …YOU SUCK!

  47. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Looking forward to the pics of your sister-in-law and her BF that you’re going to share. ;)

  48. Malreg says:

    I guess Staal, Ryan, Setoguchi, Wisniewski, E. Johnson, Mueller, Cogliano, Neal, Bergfors, are all spoiled brats who are holding out.

    This is how it plays out with high-end RFA’s who are not eligible for arbitration.  They have zero negotiating power, so it always takes long for both sides to agree on a contract.  Since they have no negotiating power, the team sticks to their guns and does not budge, and eventually the player has no choice but to agree to the terms.  Either that or they don’t play hockey for a year.

    Patience, people…

  49. punkster says:

    Understand my position please. I’ve posted a few times on this issue. This isn’t about Price, Halak, SK or even Rinne, Lehtonen or any player. The issue is about paying for potential. Precendence has been set, yes. This guy’s gonna get a much bigger contract than what I would like to see, yes. Will I be disappointed, no. I’m expressing my displeasure at the concept of paying outrageous sums of money for potential. Just because it has happened before and will keep on happening doesn’t make it right. My opinion is pay for performance not potential.

    FREE TIMO!

  50. habrez says:

    Trotter=Locke=Krog

  51. Habsforlife 1959 says:

    IMHO Carey Price has not done anything wrong here. Its all hearsay and let things go until someone from management or his agent put the word out to all Habs Fans. Carey Price let his thoughts be known about his future and still there are a select few wish Carey Price was dealt elsewhere. You may get your wish?

    Who will the Habs signed IF management cannot re-signed Carey Price? All sayings would be full of blogs about Carey Price and his agent looking for what is best for Carey Price. I say 3m for 3 years with an option to signed long term.

    People should be delighted to have a young goalie in Carey Price. He can be the next best thing this team can build around. Carey Price will shine in this league and will be for years to come. If management did think so, CP would have been dealt before Halak. So as it stands right now?????Who knows where this will go?

    Lets get behind our team and hope for the best. Habs will be looking good and building on what they did as a team from years run. Without any big injuries this team will compete for 1st in their Northeast conference.

    Go Habs Go!!!! Believe!!! Believe!!! Ole!!! Ole!!! Ole!!! Ole!!! Go Habs Go!!!

  52. Malreg says:

    Are you serious? Do you really believe that Trotter would die to play for the Habs?!  He played ONE year in the AHL, and then bolted.  He could have easily been given a chance in training camp to make the team, instead he left for more money. 

    Terrible example.

  53. Malreg says:

    I believe the rule is that they cannot negotiate with other teams, another team can offer him a contract and he can say yes or no.

  54. habrez says:

    Not sure where people are getting all this ‘Price has leverage’ thing. I get it, we traded a really solid goalie at possibly his highest value when we likely couldn’t afford to keep him and decided to keep some other players. Now we don’t have a starting goalie signed. So I ask, what team wants Price?

    What teams still needs a goalie? San Jose? Philly? Chicago? Do they have cap space?

    There are still some more NHL proven goalies available to other teams who may be searching for a goalie, like Turco, Emery, Toskola and Theodore. No one great but they can still be a starter in the NHL at a favourable cap hit and likely will be preferable over giving up a compensatory 1st and 3rd round pick for Price. Please explain Price’s leverage. Sure the Habs don’t have a starting goaltender but it seems every other NHL team does (and some arguably even have 2). He also did not put up numbers to earn big contract money. I see him earning somewhere in between Chris Mason (2 years 3.7 million) and Kari Lehtonen (3 years 10.65).

    Explain this contract negotiation leverage thing to me.

     

  55. RGM says:

    Sister-in-law and her BF will be at the Rockets alumni game tonight; I’m hoping they’ll be able to give a little report on it for me as well as some pics. I’ll be sure to share them with you good folks. :)

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  56. jerjerbigs44 says:

    I find it amusing how a lot of you guys continually bash Price on here  and then would wonder why the kid wouldn’t want to play for the Habs. Why can we not just support our team and the decisions that are made? Everyone was willing to throw the bank at Halak even though he had one hot streak and played well for a bunch of games in the playoffs. He also got yanked a few times for letting in 4 or more goals which everyone seems to keep forgetting. I went to a game last season when Philly came to town and Halak stunk the joint out and was pulled after the second period after lettting in 5 goals. Sure Price has had his share of bad games too but Halak has had a lot more blow outs than Price and it’s due to his sloppy style and the yard sale of rebounds that he gives up every game. That is the reason he has so many shots on him all the time and it’s only a matter of time before every team in the league exploits that. Halak also played most of the regular season games against the weaker teams and didn’t have to worry that if he let in one goal he would sit the next game like Price did. Price has been mismanaged by this team and it’s the team that should be blamed for any shortcomings that he has had. Habs management should have had a seasoned veteran to mentor this kid and not had the platoon situation which puts too much pressure on young goalies. Let’s not forget that he is still very young and is still growing as a person and a player. Give him your support and it’ll help his confidence and in turn help our team succeed!! Halak is gone, Price is here. DEAL WITH IT PEOPLE AND GET OVER IT!!!!

  57. RGM says:

    Be honest now: how many times did you vote for him?

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  58. Bob Barker says:

    Pekka Rinne 27, career Sv% .914 2.46 GAA, Kari Lehtonen career 26, Sv% .912 2.87 GAA. Neither of them have won anything. Both make well over 3 million per year. Carey Price 22, career SV% 0.912, 2.73 GAA. Similar numbers at a much younger age. 

    That’s all the agent has to do to get close to 3 million. He wouldn’t be getting paid for potential but for his career numbers. 

    SK74′s numbers would never get him anywhere close to 5 million. Which is why he signed for 550K.

    Insist all you want that Price is only worth 1.5 million but you’re basically setting yourself up for disappointment. 

  59. twocents says:

    What Price is asking for is a matter of conjecture too. Do we really think B. La Rose has some inside info?

    Rememeber the HI/O motto,  JT:

    In the absence of factual knowledge, assume the worst.

  60. Storm Man says:

    I see the negative nellies of the Montreal media are in fine form for a Sunday. I don’t know what Price and his agent are thinking oh wait let me look at my magic 8-ball……….. Oh I see that is the plan from the Price camp. I know now where to get all my great information 8-ball in the side pocket.

  61. terrygain says:

    No leverage? You’ve got to be kidding. Management traded Halak and handed Price the job as starter.  If they don’t sign him their incompetence will be obvious to everyone but the Pricebots.

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    Did anyone notice how those Maple Leaf fans are such sheep? They support management no matter what. It’s no wonder they haven’t won in 43 years.

  62. Danno says:

    Getting a bit ahead of ourselves here but Price (and his agent)
    should also be aware that if he remains unsigned by December 1st, he will be
    ineligible to play in the NHL for the remainder of the season.

    That said, there is incentive on both sides to come to a reasonable settlement.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  63. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Price HAD no leverage. Now that our #1 goalie is gone, he has SUBSTANTIAL leverage.

  64. Chorske says:

    My broken record has been two years max, two million max per year. I stll think that is the only deal that makes an ounce of sense from the Habs perspective.

    I’ve also said that, in this goat-hungry town, Carey is the ideal candidate: an anglo in a key position on a chronically underachieving team (at least during the regular season), a young guy who has been handed a job on a silver platter, a perceived party-boy who doesn’t know how good he’s got it.

    This is a goat-hungry town, and now that SK is gone and O’Byrne seems ready for a regular shift on D (JM needs to get his head out of his arse on that one), Carey is the most likely candidate to be fitted for horns. Fairly or unfairly, this kid is setting himself up to be run out of town.

  65. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Price is worth no more than a 2 year deal paying a max of 5 million. Price has no leverage here…unless he can actively seek another team at this moment (can someone clarify if he has that right?).

    Come on though, Cam Ward money…for doing what!?

    There are 2 “Best Case Scenarios”
    1. Price signs for 2 years at 2.25 per
    2. Price gets an offer sheet for 3.5+, they let him walk and get the picks.

  66. RetroMikey says:

    So true about the Halak trade.

    Bu we are no better than the Leafs when we heckle them but look at how we treat our own players who die to wear the Ch and are not given the opportunity to play for them like Trotter.

    But all we do is  hype all these prosepcts we have who may or may not make the club as well down the road.

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  67. Mattyleg says:

    Heh heh.

    And the wasps are a-buzzin’. Y’all didn’t step in that nest, ya downright stuck yer head inta it!

    I liked the Gainey stats. People are too quick to push the ‘Panic and Blame’ button these days. The work that he did despite his detractors, and the team that he built that made the conference finals last season is something to be proud of. I was proud to have him as GM.

    He took a bad team and made it better. Isn’t that what GMs are supposed to do?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  68. terrygain says:

    And the not-insignificant number of fans who wonder why the team traded its playoff hero will begin to wonder – if they don’t already – whether Carey Price wants to play for the Montreal Canadiens.

    No wondering here. Trading Jaro before signing Carey was just plain stupid. And we didn’t just trade our playoff hero. We traded the goalie who had earned the starting job.

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    Did anyone notice how those Maple Leaf fans are such sheep? They support management no matter what. It’s no wonder they haven’t won in 43 years.

  69. J.T. says:

    I wouldn’t call Carey Price a spoiled brat, if only because I…like the vast majority of Habs fans…don’t know the man.  I’ve never met him and, unless he said straight out that he doesn’t want to be in Montreal or that he’s holding out for the most money he can get because the Habs have blue-painted themselves into a goaltending corner, all of this talk about his motivation is complete conjecture.  So far, what he’s said out loud is that he’s not worried about getting a contract signed and that he loves Montreal and the fans.  That may or may not be a load of BS, but since we don’t know otherwise, we have to accept that he means what he’s saying.

    That said, if Price is truly asking for a contract similar to Cam Ward’s second deal, I think that’s a bit presumptuous.  Ward had a Stanley Cup on his resume when he signed that contract, and Price really has nothing to compare with that.  Then again, presumption is the soul of contract negotiations.  Otherwise nobody in the NHL could justify what they make.

     

    http://habsloyalist.blogspot.com

  70. habrez says:

    It’s Geoff Molson.

    I think that sets the tone for the rest of your post.

  71. punkster says:

    Great way to stir up a slow Sunday Mr. Boone. Throw a few hand grenades into the crowd and watch as panic ensues.

    Price: My broken record still says $1.5M for one year. Don’t pay in advance for the dreaded “potential”. Get the kid to prove his worth then reward him if he comes through. Can you imagine if Gauthier had signed SK to a $5M, 3 year deal simply because of his vaunted “potential”? Yes, SK has potential and so does Price. “If” it’s demonstrated or “if” it’s realized then you pay for his performance. (and no, SK and Price aren’t the same thing in other regards but in “potential” they’re similar).

    Quebec born players: Bitch and moan all you want but don’t put the onus on the team. Start at the grass roots and improve the product. The Q takes alot of criticism for their failings so harp on them and work down from there. This province lives and breathes hockey, particularly in the winter, just like many other areas across the country. The talent pool here should be much deeper. Look at the other provinces and find out why their programs are better than ours.

    The Gainey Era: Stats like these won’t silence the whiners. Nothing will. Whiners need something to whine about or their lives aren’t complete.

    Here endeth my whine.

    FREE TIMO!

  72. Habs4ever Fan says:

    True!

    and Carey Price was the best back up goaltender we ever had. Now we have no number 2 and a number 2 that thinks he is an allstar 

  73. Habs4ever Fan says:

    I am starting to think Jeff Molson knew exactly what he was doing when he fired the president of the habs

    The team is being run by dumb jocks with no common sense

    Carey Price is worse than Josee Theordore

    He can’t play consistantly

    He chokes under pressure

    He can’t show up in the playoffs

    He is a team first player….for the bulldogs

    Please Please Gautier….let this loser go and sign a FA next year.

    Trading Halak was a huge mistake….now we have to endure this overrated brat

  74. JVSmith says:

    Of course people will start using the term spoiled brat! Especially when the authour of the article is encouraging them to do so! I love the subliminal messages sent through this site. No matter what Price deserves or doesn’t deserve in terms of contract, Habs management was stupid in shipping off Halak and then telling Price he was #1 and then signing everyone but him right away. They gave him total control of the situation and I’ll have a good laugh if he walks away. But in the meantime, wait until you have proof that he’s holding out before starting the rumour that he is. Don’t tell me about all the pressure put on Price when you’re helping to add to it. We want our team to win right? Cause last time I checked the whole extra amount of pressure didn’t help that to happen.

  75. Dintrox says:

    I too support the team first. I have seen the Habs force LaFleur to retire, trade Robinson, trade Chelios, trade Roy, let Saku walk etc..

     

    December 4, 2009 – Elmer Lach’s jersey took its rightful place with the Rocket’s in the rafters.

  76. theprice_31 says:

    I for one support my
    team first, favorite players second. Had the team kept Halak, I would’ve
    been upset, but still supported the team and Halak, and just cheered on Price
    secondary(as I did with a guy named Roy, hated the trade, still loved the TEAM). Favorite players come and
    go, that’s part of cheering for a team, so you just stand up and cheer
    for whomever is there, whether you like them or hate them. It should be
    most important for the team to win.  As far as how much he signs for who cares the Molson’s are paying the contracts not the fans, and as pointed out by others it will get done.

  77. g says:

    That is what separates us from leafs fans. If the product on the ice is not producing habs fans stop going to the games. Leaf fans keep going and going-no matter how crap they are. YOu see we are hockey fans-they are leaf fans

    “Long before I ever wore the jersey, I wore the jersey.” Dryden

  78. K-hab25 says:

    Amen!! I’ve always been and always will be Team first, players second. Players come and go, the team is forever. Don’t get me wrong I let a few players get into my heart, but that takes years and great moments along the way. I think alot of people on here, are bigger fans of certain players than they are the team. Then there’s the group that hate the current management and goaltender so much, they take joy from the thought of them failing, even though that means the team fails. The team should always come first, it was there for me before any of these players and it was there for me after the great ones like St.Patrick were gone.

  79. Shiloh says:

    Oh yeah – all hearts and flowers with a moniker like price31. I guess you like this team. Your guy has been annointed for about 4 years while the goalie who outplayed him at every opportunity – and put us in the playoffs almost singlehandedly twice –  has been banished for a 3rd liner and a perennial AHL-er. I have cheered for the Habs for over 50 years – that won’t change. Nevertheless, I’ll be glad when this whole Price-loving soap opera is over.

  80. habs001 says:

    auld may have to play 25-30 games if our play matches last season where in the majority of the games we were outshot,out chanced and outplayed badly…it would be too exhausting for any one goalie to play 60 games for the habs if last years play does not improve.night after night 35-40 shots and the majority of the play in our zone and opposition forwards crashing the net…

  81. PeterD says:

    ThePrice _31…I agree fully with your point of team first and palyers second…well done, well thought out and well stated.  I have been thinking about this alot lately.  Running a professional team is no small or easy task…one would have to look at the current level of talent and prerformance while also considering the future of tte talent base and skill levels as well as balancing the needs of the on-ice talent with the compete level within the league..as well it appears there is a history and lineage to respect and the need to nuture the media and respond to agressive calls for explaining your actions to the fans and meda.  In Montreal more than any other hockey city on the planet these competing pressures and interactions put enormous pressure on management and players. 

    I would encourage the fans to get over the Halak vs Price issue quickly and get behind who ever is in the nets for us on each game night going forward.

    Players come and go for many reasons…trade, retirement, quit, released (basically fired), or injured… as team habs fans some of these we don’t agree with, while other we embrace and say “it’s about time”.   We must remember that as fans we do not pay the bills for the team or players salaries…we should be getting behind the players and cheering them on to success every shift…

    As a parent I know that it is far more rrewarding and effective to cheer our kids on to improve their development and confidence that is is to always break them down and criticize them or tell how they always mess up…we need to instill in them and our players the sense of confidence they need to be successful in a game where the other team is constantly trying to break down your confidence and self esteem…let’s get behind our players regardless of who they are or where they came from or how much their contract pays them..they need our fan support to enable them to go out and wage war for the team and for the fans every game.

    Having said that…I still miss Robinson, LaFleur, Dryden, Roy, Serge Savard…

    GO HABS GO!

  82. theprice_31 says:

    That may be true, but has nothing to do with my point. I said the same thing in that winning is what matters. Although to me a true fan sticks with his team no matter good or bad, that is an argument for another day. I’m just saying people should cheer for the team’s success before cheering for individual player’s success on the team.

  83. Nick_Habs1 says:

    These are the FACTS:

    At 22, Carey Price has won more games (60) then Brodeur (48), Luongo (35), Ward (44) and Fleury (57) at that age.

    Price will get paid what hes worth….LOTS.

    HE IS ONLY 22 and better than the best goalies at his age.

     

  84. likehoy says:

    FACT: 

    carey price has been on the decline and has no improved in the last 2 seasons.

  85. Bugs says:

    And their losses?

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  86. light_n_tasty says:

    Some other facts: the wins totals for Brodeur, Ward, and Fleury are reduced due to the 1995 and the 2005 lockouts.  Ward had a cup and a conn smythe at 22; Brodeur won a cup just after his 23rd birthday, and won the calder the year previous, and Fleury had a cup when he was 24.  So OK, maybe Price is better than Luongo was at age 22. MAYBE.

     

     

  87. The Cat says:

    That doesnt prove anything. Pittsburgh was intent on finishing last and had no intentions of giving Fleury some competition. I mean if you leave a guy out there hes bound to get wins.

  88. camel_larry says:

    And on the Habs no less! Daang!

    Kidding, kidding.

    But yeah, agree 100%. .912 is not a bad save percentage, and trending upwards too. EVERYBODY (except Halak + Leafs fans, evidently) recognize the Price is a blue-chip goaltending prospect. <– Yes, I said prospect. He is only 22, NO goalies are anywhere within reasonable distance of their potential @ age 22. I mean, same as Steve Mason. He had a hardcore fail of a season and people still think he’s gonna be good. I honestly believe Price & Subban are going to represent Canada in the 2014 olympics, I’m just hoping they’re both still playing for the Habs.

     

    Go Habs Go!

  89. saskhabfan says:

    Why are you guys so F’in stupid? The “4 year annoited” guy was  traded to tampa for vinny last summer before bettman killed the deal. So there goes your stupid assed carey is untouchable theory. The guy who stole games against the pens and caps also shit the bed against the flyers and you have no zero clue what eller and schultz will bring. Who gives a crap if you cheered for them for over 50 years,you clealy haven’t learned anything along the way. The only soap opera on this site is the constant crying over the trade  from the whine bags like yourself that gave us size,depth and the cap space to sign plekanec.

     

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  90. Bill J says:

    Funny – but I look forward to the day this “whole Price-hating soap opera is over.”

    FFS dude, Price IS A HAB.  He is ALSO the best & most experienced (both at same time) goalie they have now.  And there is ZERO point in discussing what you or anyone else felt was a better goalie prior to “the trade”

    If the internet existed in 1985, you would have lobbied to Fire everyone in sight because Penney was replaced by Roy.  How ridiculous you would have looked, perhaps you will look ridiculous this year.

    So you a supposed Hab fan would rather “be right” and have the team fail ?

    What kind of fan are you ?  The “poop hits the fan” type ?

    Enjoy your doom & gloom.

     

  91. theprice_31 says:

    lol…..once again miss my point. I said, and make no excuses…I am a Carey Price fan period. I am a Montreal Canadiens fan period. Am I happy he’s on my team? Yes period. Again my point is this, I can not make it any clearer, I thought anyways: I am a Canadiens fan first Carey Price fan second period. If they would have chose to keep Halak over Price, I still would have been a Canadiens fan first period. I would’ve cheered for Carey Price to have success still, but not until after my TEAM’S success. All I’m saying is that what’s done is done, and Canadiens fans need to be just that. As I originally said you don’t have to like every player on the roster, but you should want the team to win, no matter who it is leading the way period. As far as what Halak did for this team, I like everyone else was happy for the team, and him, he deserved better. However the management made their decision based on the future, not the past. Will it work out for the best? Who knows, but let’s just wait until the season has begun, and ended…then we will know all the answers.

  92. Nick_Habs1 says:

    FACT:

    Price is our goalie. Tow the party line and support your goalie and your team…if you are a true habs fans.

    Thanks and take care.

  93. likehoy says:

    FACT:

    I am a Price fan, but he hasn’t improved despite his massive wins and I don’t want him to be paid lots. I rather pay him under 3/yr and have him exceed his contract, than have him paid over 4/yr and not satisfy his contract.

  94. Nick_Habs1 says:

    Fact:

    We are on the same page there.

  95. Bill J says:

    FACT: Price has not signed a contract yet, and you do not know what the value of his contract will be.

    ;)

  96. kool-aid says:

    Here’s an interesting Troll Fact: 

    There’s more hockey knowledge in the letter “a” of the word incompetant than there is in all you self-proclaimed so-called comedian’s posts.

  97. Bill J says:

    Are you trying to label me a Troll ?

    Does that not make YOU a troll ? (trying to start an argument with me.)

    Just wondering…

    And oh BTW – “so-called comedians”

    Do you think that was humorous ?  Not at all, because at no point did I proclaim myself to be a comedian.

     

  98. kool-aid says:

    I was referring to a comment made by a certain many time banned poster. I certainly wasn’t calling you a troll. I thought you would’ve gotten the joke. You know, the one who thinks he knows everything, whose name shant be mentioned. I was using his logic.

  99. K-hab25 says:

    That’s not entirely true. From the 09′ all star break through Oct, he was awful, from Nov this season till the end he got alot better. So I wouldn’t say he’s been on the decline for 2 years. The first year and half he was 40-16-8, he’s been in the NHL for 3 years. I see it as he was great for a year and half, awful for 6 months and then average to good the last year. I don’t get how people forget how good he was the first half of year 2 and only choose to remember how awful he was the second half.

  100. GrimJim says:

    That actually depends on which statistic you look at if you look at his won-loss record you are absolutely right: 24-12-3, 23-16-10 and 13-20-5. But if you look at save percentage he recovered slightly last season: .920, .905, .912. And if you look at GAA there was also a slight recovery last year: 2.56, 2.83 and 2.77. And you need to remember that the team went from fifth best record in 2007-08 47-25-10 with Goals For Average of 3.13and team GAA of 2.63 to 14th in the league with 41-30-11 with a team GFA of 2.95 and GAA of 2.93 in 2008-09 and last year’s 18th best record 39-33-10 with GFA of 2.56 and GAA of 2.66 ( BTW the Habs GFA when Halak is in net was 2.99 while the GFA when price was in net was 2.19)

  101. Bill J says:

    My bad… totally was 1) caught off guard, because I’ve really enjoyed your posts 2) was like WTF ? lol Totally confused me.

    Appologies :)

  102. HNS says:

    Is it too late to get Halak back??? This is so effin stupid. They could have stuck with Halak, a proven winner, and not have to worry about goaltending issues.

    Price’s contract should be performance contingent. Plain and simple. This could end up JOSE2, the sequel. Why can’t  this management team can’t learn from previous mistakes. Incredible.

  103. likehoy says:

    how is halak a “proven winner”

    please…enlighten me on that.

  104. ooder says:

    well he has never had a losing season in his professional career, ever

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  105. Nick_Habs1 says:

    Dude….he had a good 3 week stint in the playoffs and all of sudden he’s the next Patrick Roy. Dont you know that?

  106. likehoy says:

    and then…?

    nabokov has only 3 losing seasons in his 13 years as a pro…is he a proven winner? to me…no! he’s just a good goalie.

  107. The Cat says:

    Hes been a goalie on a very good team too, cant say the same about Halak.

  108. SeriousFan09 says:

    In his very abridged pro career, there are a lot of short seasons in his time working through the ECHL, while I advocate against the 70-game goalie being a viable path, I do believe a goalie has to be able to work into the 60s in regular season and handle the post-season crunch, Halak has yet to prove he is a workhorse goalie and that’s a vital component of being a No. 1 man.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  109. HNS says:

    Sorry about your alzheimers dude……

  110. HNS says:

    Good weeks???????? Get off the meds. He beat Washington and Pittsburgh. Could the Habs have been able to beat beat them without him standing on his head? Wake up. Crank up your DVR and watch those series again.

  111. likehoy says:

    i don’t remember…how did it end? i don’t think we won the cup did we? 

    halak’s record was 9-9…hardly stunning.

    a winner wins trophies and halak has a career total of 0 trophies.

    i’m sorry that you have the standards of a leafs fan.

  112. HNS says:

    That’s ok, I didn’t realize u have the expectations of an idiot.

  113. kempie says:

    Hornets nest much? Bravo Boone. Bravo.

  114. puck face says:

    funny thing about the Halak/Price crap is that i don’t beleive either one is the real deal. i think Halak will underperform in st.Louis and Price will turn out to be a bust in Montreal. then maybe everyone will GET OVER IT. allthough it’s been entertaining to read people’s debates about which is better when neither is really that good , it’s like  ‘ my 92 ford escort is way better than your 93 honda civic……..who cares.

  115. The Cat says:

    Ford Escort better than a Honda Civic? Now thats crazy.

  116. Big Ted says:

    If Carey Price thinks he’s worth anything more than 2.3 million per
    season, he’s completely mistaken (unless he signs a contract of 4 years
    or more). We don’t know the truth, so it’s hard to call him a spoiled
    brat now, but if really is holding out for 3 million a year, it’s quite
    ridiculous. As has been pointed out, Ward made 2.67 million a year
    after winning a Cup and a Conn Smythe, so he had more collateral to
    negotiate with and he had a resume that showed he could perform in the
    playoffs. If Price wins a Cup and a Conn Smythe for us, by all means,
    give the guy the 3 million or more he deserves. But until then, he’s
    simply a young goalie who has had some good stretches but who has been
    inconsistent and hasn’t won in the clutch.

    In these types of
    situations, I think we need to remember though that it’s not usually
    the player but the agent who is driving the client’s price up. So it’s
    entirely possible it has nothing to do with Price himself. But I don’t
    think Price has as much leverage as he thinks. There’s still Marty
    Turco (and regrettably Jose Theodore) available and if we had to go up
    one of those routes to put Price in his place so be it. It would
    evidently not be ideal for Price nor the Habs but that’s the game of
    chicken that’s being played. All in all, PG’s biggest mistake was not
    signing Dan Ellis, who could have been a legitimate number one even if
    Price did not sign. Alex Auld is a decent back-up but he has never
    shown he can be a number one, and Price knows it. Hope this all plays
    out soon and doesn’t become a distraction to the team around training
    camp.

  117. puck face says:

    wanna race? but first let’s pop then hoods and compare dirty grease caked engines through clouds of grey smoke.

  118. Exit716 says:

    Ford has the best reliability of any major car manufacturer now.

     

  119. The Cat says:

    Come on thats crazy talk. Ford is nowhere near Honda. One of my cars is a 1994 Honda Accord, runs like a dream. I doubt theres many if any 1994 Ford Escorts, Tempos or Taurus still on the road with over 250 000km.

  120. puck face says:

    so Halak is a ford and Price is a civic?

  121. The Cat says:

    No! Halak is a civic and Price is a Ford lol

  122. puck face says:

    haha , i started a debate that isn’t about two average goalies. i saw a 1920′s ford dowtown yesterday , so there.

  123. kempie says:

    I may be wrong here but you sound like you’ve never owned a Ford. I have. Most ridiculous piece of crap ever. Had to remove the alternator before you could get the distributor cap off (which was very often). 95 Civic here now, runs like a sewing machine. IMO, Honda Civic is the best, most reliable, economically sound ride available.

  124. Bill J says:

    In a museum ?

    Honda’s aren’t in museum’s yet – because they are all on the road.

    :P

  125. Bill J says:

    Reliable alright.

    That’s why the Ford Explorer was “affectionately” renamed the Ford Exploder.

     

  126. The Cat says:

    Ford Pickups are pretty decent though.

  127. The Cat says:

    Youre quite the comedian Bill ^_^

    http://instantrimshot.com/

  128. Bill J says:

    LMFAO :P

    Note to “Kool-Aid”, Cat called me a comedian, not ME.

    :P

  129. puck face says:

    the ford was on the road. what i like to do is spend 2000$ on a used civic then put 5000$ into it like skirts , neon lights and base speakers undr the seats and in the trunk. it makes me feel good.

  130. jkirk says:

     

    HNS: This situation is worse than stupid, it’s more like it’s deliberately perverse.

    Take, for example, the manifestly counterfactual suggestion by some posters here that Halak is not a ‘proven winner’. Sure it’s a vague phrase, but we all know what it means, and that it’s obviously true.

    Also take, for example, claims that Jar Jar Price’s poor performance for the past season and a half is actually a sign of how good he is (because other goalies who turned out good also had some bad seasons in their youth). Similarly, people will claim that Halak’s winning year is actually a sign of how mediocre he is (because other goalies had a good season or two and then didn’t go anywhere).

    And take, for example, statements like ‘he’s coming off of what most would agree was a disappointing season where he lost the starter’s role‘. ‘Most’ would agree? All who possess reason certainly would.

    To all you Price people: Please, please tell me what would have to happen for you to be convinced that Price should be let go. How poorly would he have to play and for how long would have to play thus poorly, in order for you to relinquish your claims to his greatness? 

    Finally, take, for example, claims that fans who express their unhappiness over the Halak trade are somehow traitors or something. In the crazy Price-fan world, wanting the best for the Habs makes you a bad fan. And anyway, armchair coaching is obviously a huge part of the fun of being a sports fan.

    The Habs need to let the Jar Jar madness go. 

     

  131. matmacat says:

    Man… Mike Boone sure has all of your numbers.

  132. Bill J says:

    Impressive RE the Ford…

    Re “pimping” the Honda, whatever turns your proverbial “crank”

    OK NOW I am trying to be a comedian :D lol

  133. Bill J says:

    To all you Price people: Please, please tell me what would have to happen for you to be convinced that Price should be let go. How poorly would he have to play and for how long would have to play thus poorly, in order for you to relinquish your claims to his greatness.

    How about for starters, giving Price till he is 25 ?  Let’s then compare his Save % & GAA against Halak’s this past season.

    The kid is 22!!!!!!  Nowhere near the peek or “lows” of his career.



  134. Danno says:

    There seems to be no sign of intelligent life anywhere…

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  135. K-hab25 says:

    I don’t know who “jar jar” is, but your pathetic stalking of Halak has got to stop. He’ s found a new team now, you have to let go. Maybe professional help is something you should check into. Halak has moved on, so should you.

  136. The Cat says:

    Very sensible and I agree the youth should be given some leeway and some patience, what bugs me is the organization constantly propping/anointing him as the number 1. It should have always been the philosophy to have Price as the backup and let him earn or steal away the number 1 role, be it from Halak or Ellis etc. Instead they put him in a position where he can only lose.

  137. K-hab25 says:

    There you go Bill, speakin all intelligent and junk.

  138. kempie says:

    They are for sure. In fact I have a 93 Explorer as well for slugging stuff around. It’s not pretty but we paid $1000 for it and it has made many times that much for us. 

  139. Bugs says:

    Well, in case he hasn’t mine, it’s 555-…(are you writing this down?) 5555.

    Oh, area code 514, sorry.

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  140. K-hab25 says:

    I actually agree cat, that would’ve been the best scenario. Bring both back and see if Price could win his job back, aswell as to see if Halak could handle the pressure of being the #1. It’s to late for that now though, I don’t feel sorry for Price though. That which does not kill him, will only make him stronger. I think he’ll be fine this year. Top ten, probably not, more like the next group, 10-20 area. I can see him with a 2.60 gaa .915% and 35 wins, depending on how many starts he gets. Those are realistic #’s, especially for a 23 year old.

  141. thirdstone says:

    Tell me why is it that you insist on:

    a) acting as if Price and Halak have anything to do with each other. You speak as if Halak’s play affects Prices, so that Halak’s good play makes Price bad.

    b) forcing this stupid notion onto everyone else and criticize them as though they also believe in it. This is to say that you address people who are into Price as if they believe not only that Price is good, but that they all think he’s a god and they all think that those who are unhappy with Halak trade are traders.

    c) judging Price according to to a scouting report that’s three years old. You Price criticizers think you’re so smart but you’re out of the loop. Everyone in hockey knows Price isn’t the next Patrick Roy and that he has all sorts of issues. No intelligent hockey person holds the claims to his greatness anymore. League consensus has Price at about… potential starter with franchise upside. He’s got WAY too much size and skill to give up on at the age of 23. He’ll probably be a mature starter in 2 years. THAT is the scouting report on him now. The irony is that you’re the one who hasn’t heard about it! You’re stuck with the the old vision of Price and you’re criticizing others based on the assumption that they’re stuck in the past as well.

    The jokes on you buddy, your blaming everyone around you for your own antiquated ideas.

  142. jkirk says:

    Wow, someone actually answered that question for once – thanks Bill J!

    I sincerely hope Price does as well as Halak did this last season. Getting this team to the third round by standing on his head and giving an historic goaltending performance would certainly make me a Price fan. I also hope that if he does give us something matching our best performance in 17 years, he doesn’t get traded.

    I also hope we don’t spend two or three more years sacrificing the Habs for the sake of ‘Price’s development’ only to have him leave the team. 

  143. kempie says:

    As a bass player, I always found goalies a bit like drummers. Usually strange, albeit harmless creatures. I mean what would make someone want to buy all that expensive, heavy stuff, carry it around, set it up, then stand back there and do that? Once you find someone who is competent in the role, you’re damn happy to have found them. Strange creatures indeed who need to be nurtured and treated slightly differently than the rest of society.

  144. jkirk says:

    Were you addressing me? If so, thanks, but can you please tell me what I wrote that justifies your statements a) and b)? And c), for that matter? 

    I do admit I referred to Price people, which seems to lump everyone who supports the Price side of the debate into one group. Let me qualify: all you crazy Price people. 

     

  145. kool-aid says:

    I was being sarcastic. That post was an example of how you-know-who thinks. According to you-know-who we all think we’re comedians, me included, and only you-know-who is the all-knowing-speaker-of-the-truth. Hence the “a” in the word incompentant having more knowledge. A letter can’t have more knowledge, Bill. You know that. I know that. Now that we can agree that the letter “a” can’t have more knowledge, maybe we can also agree that neither do the words of Mr. Banned Again.

  146. doug says:

    RE: the goalie debate, I was a Halak guy and haven’t liked Price.  That said, as long as we don’t break the bank that won’t be the position that imperils us.  If he signs for $3M and plays like the $1.3M guy he has the last season and a half, it’s a modest amount of excess dough and the leagues is full of able goaltenders to step in to replace Mr. Auld in 2011-12 and beyond.  With everyone’s cap situation, we can find someone relatively cheap and he’ll be fine. 

  147. HardHabits says:

    Let me guess. Mine is 41.

  148. K-hab25 says:

    Exactly doug, it’s nice to see a guy, that doesn’t like Price, actually get it. Most are to busy either crying over Halak, or bitching about Price, to see how simple this is. Paying Price 3mill won’t kill us and if he doesn’t take the bull by the horns, there’s always plenty of solid veterans floating around.

  149. doug says:

    The Halak deal was about saving the $ gap between what we’d have had to pay him and what we’ll pay Price in our very cap-contained environment.  I loved Halak but he could become Huet, and paying any goalie that money is perilous.  People look at Halak from the prior perspective of underdog and determine he’s a better value for the dollar. . . but now he’s going to be 1.5 times the price, and the entire calculus changes.  The Blues made him a true #1. . . people forget that when they romanticize about the past.  We SHOULD have signed him (and Streit, etc.) for lower dollars longer. . . same for Pleks a couple of years ago.  But we didn’t.  So now, Halak had to go in the context of the rest of our cap situation.

  150. HardHabits says:

    I was a Halak guy too last season, but my predilection was that he should be the starter or get the bulk of the games, not necessarily be the goalie to build a team around. I have also been in his corner since well before the bread baking news conference and I post this new avatar as a joke.

    Nevertheless I have no issue with Price being on the team and the bottom line is that this team is being built around a concept and an integral part of that concept is Carey Price.

    It’s going to be funny if Price doesn’t do well next season and people rip into him I keep posting that people should just be patient.

    You guys will never figure me out!!!

  151. yathehabsrule says:

    Well he did spell peak wrong, so as for talking all intelligent…. :p

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  152. likehoy says:

    sounds like a decent deal…the only thing stopping me from agreeing is i’m not sure how long a yewar is?

  153. Nick_Habs1 says:

    Selon The Gazette Price voudrait un contrat de 3 ans pour environ 3 M$ par saison. Le CH aimerait une entente de 2 ans entre 4,5 et 5 M$.

  154. Mike Boone says:

    I  love how this post, clearly stating that the numbers were speculative, has become fact in the CKAC translation.

  155. SmartDog says:

    It’s about half a parsec.  Or 600 wamarans.

     

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  156. A. Berke says:

    FYI, I, like many other posters here at HIO, prefer to trade (better yet: get rid of) the trolls like yourself.

    Consider this a fair warning.

    Suggestion: the leaf nation appears to be a more suited venue for you, why don’t you try it?

  157. C3P1 says:

    where is headbanger when you need him?

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  158. HardHabits says:

    He obviously meant Price’s ability to look or peer furtively over the shoulder of opponents trying to screen his view.

  159. TripleX says:

    That argument has been made many, many times.  Unfortunately it only holds water if there is a significant gap between the two cap hits.

    Halak is getting 3.75 a year, and if Price is actually gunning for 3 is the 750,000 difference worth it?  I don’t think so.

    Originally the estimate for Price post Halak trade was in the region of 1.5 to 2.  At that cap hit the trading of Halak is logical and makes sense.

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  160. RiverviewCanadien says:

    LOL…this is like a Springer show out of control!

  161. Exit716 says:

    Never mind…The Hawk Andre Dawson still loves Montreal, even if Carey Price might or might not want to play here.

    Here’s his glowing memories of Montreal.

    “I never knew what it felt like to be loved by a city until I arrived in Chicago,” Dawson said. “You are the reason I kept playing the game. I can’t thank you enough for what you gave to me. You were the winds beneath the Hawk’s wings.”

     

  162. likehoy says:

    Well in that case, I can’t agree with the deal!

  163. habaddict_andy says:

    Is it September yet?  Hummm, this explains some posters arguments.  Analysis are getting out of hand.  Can’t wait for the next season myself, and embrace the new roster we have now.  I do not Halat it as much anymore.

  164. HardHabits says:

    The Habs couldn’t afford to keep both of them and chose to build around Carey. It’s that simple. Halak’s trade value was up. The Habs got two good prospects for a 9th round selection. Is Halak the 2nd coming of Hasek. Is Price the 2nd coming of Dryden-Roy? Looks like we’ll have to wait and see to decide!

  165. C3P1 says:

    ah, riverview…the man speaks the truth

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  166. C3P1 says:

    um, excuse me, I will have you know that a parsec is a unit of distance, NOT time, much like a light year.

    sincerely yours, han solo

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  167. wotever says:

    That’s interesting, where did the Price estimate come from?  

    I’m kind of surprised that someone would think that Price would take a 700k-200k paycut when the rest of the league could put in an offer sheet for him.

    I suppose another question is whether Halak would have taken only $3.75M in Quebec.

    You’ll have to speak up – I’m wearing a towel.

  168. likehoy says:

    1hr22 minutes. sweet. might be a record for getting banned :D

  169. K-hab25 says:

    I agree completely HH, I think had someone offered more for Price, than what they got for Halak, he would’ve been the one shipped out. Some are to deep into there conspiracy theories, of how management had it out for Halak and Price was there golden boy, to see the simple business side of it.

  170. C3P1 says:

    its gotta be headbanger seeing how many times he can recreate himself and get re-banned lol

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  171. likehoy says:

    i just noticed what your avatar was…usually i ignore avatars but this one is just trolling lol.

    you can do better than that!

  172. K-hab25 says:

    Ya Halak’s the civic and Price is the Ford, F150. Bigger, stronger and more powerful, hell you can throw the tiny civic in the bed of the F150. :-)

  173. TomNickle says:

    For people with your so called “reason” to want Price to be sent packing, he would first have to start playing poorly.  Stopping more than 9 of every 10 shots he faces defies your bold claim that he hasn’t played well.

     

    Tell me, is Tomas Vokoun a poor goalie because he didn’t win a lot?  Was Luongo a poor goalie in Florida?  Backstrom in Minnesota?  Lundqvist in New York?  

    Now tell me, would you rather have Price or Theodore.  Theodore sure won a lot of games this year.  Needless say that he didn’t exactly blow the doors of the Vezina voting in the process.

    But stick with your sound reasoning, ignorance is bliss I hear.

  174. TomNickle says:

    Why $2.3 million, do you know something that nobody else does?

    Is there a contract you’re comparing with?

  175. HardHabits says:

    It goes deeper in my estimation. My take is that the Habs have designs on building a certain type of team and Price figures prominently in that equation.

  176. Chuck says:

    Probably in a Long Island prison… in segregation, for his benefit.

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  177. Chuck says:

    Even that would be better than the Leafs in 29th.

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  178. Chuck says:

    He lists his name as “Jack S.”

    Anyone want to guess what the ‘S’ stands for?

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  179. HardHabits says:

    You can’t deny my Photoshop skills. ;-)

    I already stated below that I don’t support raising Halak’s number. It’s a jab at all the Halak-bots if you will. If any of them would be so bold as to suggest it they’d get laughed out of town.

    Most of you see it as just another HH expression in excentrism.

    Since Boone is kicking one hornet’s nest I just thought I’d add some fuel to the other flame-war that’s still smoldering at HIO.

  180. K-hab25 says:

    Now I’m interested, what do you mean by “certain type of team”?

  181. HardHabits says:

    Speaking of avatars, am I the only one who’s noticed badangel‘s new pic?

  182. ZepFan2 says:

    Umm, Sparrow, Sprat?

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  183. Chuck says:

    Yeah, that probably shouldn’t last long.

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  184. Chuck says:

    Not quite.  :)

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  185. ZepFan2 says:

    Sh!T, I hate these games.

    Okay, I give up.

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  186. punkster says:

    Any idea what or who that is?

    FREE TIMO!

  187. ZepFan2 says:

    Yup, not quite as “hot” as the other one, I must say.

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  188. ZepFan2 says:

    Nosferatu.

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  189. GrimJim says:

    I compared the marginal tax rates in Missouri and Quebec and I think to equal his take home pay from the Blues, the Habs would have had to pay Halak a cap hit of about 4.2 million (I did this shortly after Halak was traded and I threw out the calc sheet so i’m relying on my memory).

  190. Danno says:

    Jack Shinola?

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  191. wotever says:

    Good number to work with.  Thanks, GrimJim.

    You’ll have to speak up – I’m wearing a towel.

  192. Bob Barker says:

    The way some people hate on Carey Price you’d think he slept with their wife/girlfriend. Management knew they couldn’t keep both goaltenders. Halak is entering his prime. Price still has a couple of years before that happens. He’s not Patrick Roy and he’s not Vesa Toskala. 

    If he was so terrible how was his Sv% .912?  Better than Varlamov, Rinne, Quick, Fleury, Backstrom, etc…

    Stop hating on him so much and let the kid play hockey. 

  193. HardHabits says:

    Sounds like Jackess to me.

  194. pmaraw says:

    he slept with your beauties

  195. HardHabits says:

    Soon enough the Gazette will be rumoured to have endorsed retiring Halak’s number.

  196. HabFanSince72 says:

    The problem with Brooks’ argument is that the Kovy II contract clearly violates the CBA. The last 5 years are there only to lower the cap hit.

    So I don’t know why he says that, for Bettman,  this is “personal”. In fact, given that Bettman is hired by the owners, and that he’s not stupid, I find it hard to believe he would engage in a personal vendetta with one team.

     

  197. TripleX says:

    That estimate was thrown out by many posters on HIO, you can check old postings from that time period if you want to.  Those figures were used to justify keeping Price over Halak on the issue Price would be WAY cheaper.  

    Halak said on Team990 in an interview with Tony Marinaro that he would have accepted the same deal in Montreal, unfortunately he was never approached by PG.  PG never had intentions of signing Halak and it was always Price.

    Of course now with rumors of Price asking for 3 million a year all the talk about him being so much cheaper have stopped.  Now the argument has changed to ” well Price is younger and deserves more money and no one said he would be a LOT cheaper just cheaper”.  blah blah blah.  The arguments about why Halak was traded change with the wind direction.

    It was not about cap space or skill or nationality or agents.  It was always about Price being a lottery pick and management unwilling to believe Price would be anything but a dominating goalie.

     

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  198. thirdstone says:

    Look man, your Price hate is just ridiculous. This kid is still extremely coveted in the eyes of many men who know a fair bit about the position. If you want to call him out for not being the next Patrick Roy, fine. But look at the last two games he played this year. Great games, both losses. Isn’t that the story of his career? The problem is compounded by the fact that the inability to cash in on your highs pushes your lows lower. I think you’re crazy for wanting to throw away this kid at the age of 23. Every year he’s come back with a bigger chip on his shoulder. I’d hate to see him in another city when things start going well for him, cause he’s going to tear it up one day.

  199. Chuck says:

    I like how he falls down when he swings his stick at the glass.

  200. HabFanSince72 says:

    Price wants the best contract for himself. Management wants the best contract for themselves. As they both should. There’s no real problem here.

    One reason it’s taking this long is that neither side has any other options. Price doesn’t have arbitration rights and the Habs don’t have another goalie. So neither side feels pressure to accept an offer prematurely.

     

     

     

     

     

  201. Bob Barker says:

    All 25 of them? The kid’s got game. 

  202. Exit716 says:

    Brooks is an NHLPA toady.

    That’s a fact.

     

  203. Bob Barker says:

    I agree. I’m pretty sure it’ll get done in time for training camp. It’s not like he’s the only RFA that hasn’t signed. Setoguchi, Bobby Ryan and James Neal haven’t signed yet either. 

  204. Bill J says:

    Bettman ?

    :)

  205. The Cat says:

    And so should we all. Its not the players faults if some owners dont know how to run their business.

  206. Bill J says:

    LMFAO

    I was wondering why you posted that other post, was like WTF happened to Kool-Aid ? lol

    Sorry about the miss-understanding :)

  207. ZepFan2 says:

    One and the same, Bill. ;)

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  208. HABZ24 says:

    i cant believe the habs are thinking of giving carey price anymore then a mill a year the only thing he has proven so far as an nhl goalie is that hes inconsistant and cant take the pressure.  do what halak did carey then return asking for 3 mill a year.

  209. The Cat says:

    It bugs me the way Fleury is considered a good goalie, hes fortunate like Osgood was fortunate.

  210. TripleX says:

    Any team can afford to start the season without a forward or even a Dman.  But a starting goalie?  Not likely!

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  211. TripleX says:

    I guess that is why he entered the Hall wearing an Expo cap under duress.  He publicly stated he wanted to wear a Cubs hat as that is where he felt he blossomed as a major leaguer.

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  212. vanderglenn says:

    what do you say in July. Price probably won’t perform come October, Pouliot will continue his pedestrian ways, and the remainder of the team will perform as expected. Whoever said mediocrity wasn’t acceptable is absolutely right. Oh yeah and no Markov till christmas. I’m smiling through my tears.

  213. Exit716 says:

    He was a choke artist that cost the Expos a shot at the World Series by hitting into a double play with the bases loaded in Game 5 against the Dodgers in 1981. When he got his shot with the Cubbies in the post season, he again came up lame.

     

  214. pmaraw says:

    well we need a goalie…

  215. Bill J says:

    LMFAO

    Yeah that’s it, it was a double-entendre.

    lol

    oops ;)

  216. Bill J says:

    LOL

    deserved, but I’m sticking to what I just said to HH’s post.

    Was a double-entendre I tell ya!

    ;) lol

  217. Bill J says:

    Posting this up here a reply to “The Cat” from down below. just did not want it buried into the 2nd page.

    Very sensible and I agree the youth should
    be given some leeway and some patience, what bugs me is the organization
    constantly propping/anointing him as the number 1. It should have
    always been the philosophy to have Price as the backup and let him earn
    or steal away the number 1 role, be it from Halak or Ellis etc. Instead
    they put him in a position where he can only lose.

    Thanks Cat. :)

    I also agree RE the first “anointment”, K-Hab
    does too it seems, makes me wonder how many “Price-Bots” (Argh I hate
    that term) agree as well. 

    I think for those who think keeping
    Jaro was good, I honestly do not think so.  One of the two HAD to go,
    not just for financial reasons. 

    Young Goalies, need a older
    guy.  As a Mentor, and to start building their weird Goalie Psyche. 
    They need to know THEY are the future of the team.  They need to see
    their team-mates playing in front of them, get a rhythm as it where for
    the flow of his team’s game.  And that comes from playing.

    Jaro wanted and deserved #1, I wish him well.

    Price
    wanted & some would say, at the stage in his career and the
    circumstances surrounding a certain team bonding that happened this past
    off-season.  Yes Jaro was a BIG part of it, and I do not take that away
    from him.  BUT, this is a team sport.  And I think Price can jump in
    now.

    Losing record this past season ?  It builds character.  Notice
    his losing record still had decent GAA & SV% ?  History says this
    is a VERY good indication of a VERY good – to – great goalie, for a
    goalie aged 22.

    Some here seem to take him getting 3Million as an
    insult, or undeserved.  The Habs believe in him, so much they traded
    Jaro.  He believes in himself, and that you can take to the bank.  There
    is no “mental” issues.  He was 21 BTW when that famous hands in the air
    moment happened.  How mature where you at 21 (question to anyone who
    reads this, not necessarily just you Cat).

    P.S. I do disagree (so we do not need to blow up, not a full agreement here lol) Price at THIS point in his career, will not “only lose”. ;)

    sorry for the long post, but I dig talking to you.  And wanted to share my thoughts with you.

  218. saskhabfan says:

    Funny,halak (and his agent) sang to a whole different tune on nhl live when it came to money. Of course he is going to say the right things to a montreal based radio station after the fact. Just like every other former hab does.

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  219. Bill J says:

    XXX – look I will try and say this nice.  But I have to say, it does frustrate me when you say things that are not thought out.

    1) That estimate was thrown out by many posters on HIO, you can check old
    postings from that time period if you want to.  Those figures were used
    to justify keeping Price over Halak on the issue Price would be WAY
    cheaper.

    – Eh – how does that make it “right”, today in the here and now ?  ALL that we know so far is

    a) The Habs like him enough to have traded Jaro.

    b) Price is coming into his prime years, and EVERYONE in the NHL (more value for opinion IMO, over Habs I/O) agrees Price IS worth the risk, and given the opportunity would bet on Price.

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    2) Halak said on Team990 in an interview with Tony Marinaro that he would
    have accepted the same deal in Montreal, unfortunately he was never
    approached by PG.  PG never had intentions of signing Halak and it was
    always Price.

    – As I said in #1, the Habs bet on Price.  Having both into next season, if not for financial reasons at least to properly develop a future #1, Price was not going to improve, sitting on the bench.  And Jaro would not have been happy either.  They had to be split up.

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    3) Of course now with rumors of Price asking for 3 million a year all the
    talk about him being so much cheaper have stopped.  Now the argument has
    changed to ” well Price is younger and deserves more money and no one
    said he would be a LOT cheaper just cheaper”.  blah blah blah.  The
    arguments about why Halak was traded change with the wind direction.

    – Speculation, and well thought out speculation based on time to think about it all.

     

    Your last point I clearly disagree with, see replies to 1-3 for reasons why I disagree.

    Hope you do not take this reply in a bad way, I just hope you can gain perspective on this.  And perhaps support the team, and it will likely include Price.  Never mind the $$ he makes, that’s not your job to worry about it.  Be a fan.

  220. vanderglenn says:

    how old was he when he shot a puck at a group of capitals scoring a goal?

  221. Bill J says:

    Have you ever watched the Habs in the 70′s

    ?

    Look at the size of the Defencemen they are stock-piling on. ;)

    a English Goalie with talent. ;)

    speedy forwards. ;)

    Unfortunately no Lafleur’s

    and Center’s who are 6’2″ or larger with offensive & grit talent, are not often available to the Habs. (Draft / UFA)

     

    By no means am I saying they will go on a Stanley cup winning tear, but it is something I can compare against.

    A model as it where.  So please no rose colored glasses comments, lol.  I just think the “model” is based on the 70′s.

    An era, might I add Gainey knows VERY well.

    F-ing shame Robinson is not on board considering.  Damn you Pierre Boivin for not returning his calls.

    BTW this is NOT HH’s feelings necessarily, I felt like sharing mine.  As I liked the question, and I had thought about it not that long ago.

  222. Mark C says:

    Markov out until X-mas, did an 8-ball tell you that or did you make that all up on your own?

    “Markov told The Gazette he felt comfortable with his rehab program, but said he couldn’t put a date on his return. The original prognosis called for him to be back in November, but Gauthier said this month that Markov might be ready for the season opener on Oct. 7. Markov -who hasn’t resumed skating -would only say he wants to get back as soon as possible”.

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/fantasy/2010/07/19/nichols-kovy-s-choice/

  223. Mark C says:

    Why stop at paying Price less than 1 million, management should see if he’ll that deal in gift cards.

  224. Bill J says:

    Funny thing though.

    The Caps stopped charging the net as much, and ended up losing a “few games” after that game.

    Not saying that’s necessarily the reason he did those things, but it seemed to me as having affected the Caps.

    They shot from the outside a LOT more after that, and Jaro excels on high shot counts (Price has too in the past, when he played more in general)

    Fair question BTW, I hope you can respect my reply. ;)

  225. Bill J says:

    Some would say, like Ward was fortunate. ;)

     

    Reason Miller is so damned good ?  He is NOT fortunate, but he makes his team shine.

  226. Bill J says:

    Funny thing happened this past season, ;)

    Philadelphia did. In fact they had what 5, 6 goalies in total ?  And THEY went all the way to the finals.

    Not saying Price will not be signed by then, but your statement is flawed as recently as this past season.

  227. ari says:

    what is the exact height of josh? 5 7 or 6 1

  228. davecessna says:

    Sometimes I wish I lived during the days hockey was a passion and not a cash cow. But then I realize that they have vaccines for polio and measles now.

  229. Snipes says:

    re: the clip

    - I would’ve loved to watch Price take down Ty Conklin during that skirmish.

    and i really think #31 is gonna shut a lot of simple people up this season.

  230. sprague cleghorn says:

    Hey, Raycroft and Pogge are both still available. Just saying.

  231. The Professor says:

    You must be kidding…

  232. pmaraw says:

    thata boy price, stick it to the simple people!!!

  233. Snipes says:

    that save is unreal.

    why ever would we want talent and focus like that??!

  234. OneTimer says:

    I’m neutral on Price vs Halak personally, so I hope so. I just want to WIN.

  235. C3P1 says:

    remember when carey price was one of the best goalies in the NHL? second half of 08, first half of 09, before he got hurt? stellar numbers, 230 gaa and a sp over 920 during both of those time periods. the guy has talent. he is 22 years old. he’s big. there are certainly worse things (GOMEZ, COUGH!) that this franchise could do or did than give a goalie as talented as carey price 2 million dollars a year. mercy.

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  236. RGM says:

    Just landed in Halifax – very long day and not really in the mood to pore over this thread again to deal with the anti-Price crowd. However, I will pass along this bit of information: thanks to my wonderful sister-in-law I am now the proud owner of a game-used autographed Josh Gorges jersey.

    Pics to come within 10 minutes of opening the package.

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    Josh Gorges for Captain!

  237. kempie says:

    Damn near killed them too. Thank God they were wearing hockey pants.

  238. SeriousFan09 says:

    That is beyond awesome.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  239. kempie says:

    Aaaaaaaaaaand thanks for coming out.

  240. Snipes says:

    doublepost

  241. Bill J says:

    LMAO – Nice! :D

  242. Sportfan says:

    Haha i was at that game veryone wanted price to go after someone atleast the only time since the first season i remember the crowd yelling CAREY CAREY CAREY haha

  243. Snipes says:

    I remember quite well.

    The idea of losing Price over money is scary.  Hope we lock him in as long as possible.   Can’t wait to watch him this year.   Talent!   Maybe the Habs willll score a coupl’a goals this season so that he can get some of those W’s next to his name.

  244. Propwash says:

    Yep, lets get rid of Price, according to this vid, he is the planet’s worst goalie.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRdnO5M3Ydk

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  245. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    I know but the people here are still upset about Price’s recent performances. And they have the right to. Even though Price did not get that much of a goal support from the team this year, he needs to regain his form and play to the best of his ability. It’s simple. If he stops the puck, people won’t complain about him. We all know he has talent, but he better use it this upcoming season, or else this would show that Price can only underachieve here in Montreal. I really hope that he excels this upcoming season. If he doesn’t, then I won’t be stopping people criticizing Price. They’d have the right to. Same goes to Andrei Kostitsyn and Pouliot.

  246. K-hab25 says:

    22, hope that helps you.

  247. blu3chip says:

    Great vid!

    Go Price Go!

  248. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Great Video. This guy just needs to be more consistent. If the trio, AK46, Pouliot and Price can play the best to their abilities, this this team could go on another ridiculous run. If..

    Hopefully the young guns will respond this season. 

  249. chelios_24 says:

    What’s the hold up? How can Price actually be demanding $$$. How many games has he won since the Montreal ALL-star game of 2008-2009?? I betcha he hasn’t even won 20..

     

    what a bumb. I’d  be happy with any goalie.. I want the Price era the end quickly. It’s like a bad dream.

  250. ooder says:

    oh common SF, Halifax isn’t thaaaat great :-)

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  251. RGM says:

    I see what you did there. LOL

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  252. ooder says:

    clever eh,

    congrats on your honey moon and the new sweater rgm.

    enjoy both equally :)

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    88 is the new 23

  253. kempie says:

    Wow. That, my friend, is super-sweet. Is there a C on it? BTW, Halifax is a fun place.

  254. Chuck says:

    Very cool!

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  255. Chuck says:

    Nice work. What’s really interesting is that even when he’s making difficult saves, he’s not often pumping the rebound back out into the medium or deep slot.

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    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  256. Chuck says:

    The player that got hit probably thought that he just got a pat on the bum in the scrum.

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  257. Clay4bc says:

    Carey Price killed my dog…

     

     

     

    (Joking, PriceBunnies, joking)

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  258. semigod says:

    Man, that had to be ruff.

  259. The Cat says:

    I think there are minor mental issues, thats not to say theyre permanent. But it would appear being in direct competition wasnt good for Price, and that says a little something about him. And I dont know if his self belief is as high as you think. Carey is like an undefeated boxer who got defeated for the first time. When things have gone your way and youve been the Man your whole career, it can be tougher when adversity hits. And nice talking to you too Bill, youre alright.

  260. showey47 says:

    How old was tuuka rask when he did this?

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUVGz0MVyKI

  261. doug says:

    That’s a great – and eye-opening – article on Gainey.  Find it hard to argue with, really.  My issue with him surrounds only June 30th and July 1, 2009, however.  With salary cap implications, I worry the next five won’t be as bright as the last, not that they were exactly glowing.  If he’d acted without signing Gomez, the other two still would have come and we’d have had cap flexibility.  That’s the one major blemish on his record for me.

  262. Habsforlife 1959 says:

    Quit whinning. Get over it. Jealous will get you nowhere? Dream on!!!

  263. Habsforlife 1959 says:

    Great Post!!!!!

  264. K-hab25 says:

    Wins/losses and cups are “TEAM” accomplishments. The only real fact, is he is one of the few goaltenders to even be in the NHL at 20/21 years of age as his teams #1. Ward didn’t even get to the NHL till he was 22 and despite the hype he gets for his playoff hot streak, he was horrendous his first 2 years. Brodeur, aka the system, had much better defensive teams in front of him than anybody listed in his post. Luongo and Fleury both struggled badly there first 3 years aswell. It wasn’t till Luongo went to VAN and Fleury got Crosby, Malkin and Stall , that they started to improve. Like it or not, Price has played well for a guy in between 20/22 years of age, on a very average team. Most goalies 20/21 aren’t even in the NHL and aside from those 3 months in 09′ after the all-star game, he’s been a good NHL quality goaltender. Now I didn’t say he’s elite, I said a good NHL quality goaltender, he has to improve his consistency to reach the next level, but at 22 he’s got time.

  265. Duracell3 says:

    #1 by default doesn’t exactly inspire confidence, he’s the #1 because they traded the guy who has always outplayed him. His current competition is Alex F’ing Auld.

     

    Nothing against Price, but he should have stayed in the AHL for a year, he clearly was not ready and had his confidence obliterated because of it. Perhaps he’ll come away stonger, that or hate this city. I hope that we learn something from this and I think you can see similarities with other young players (Lats in mind). Let them play juniors at 19 and dominate, then let them play in Hamilton for year.

     

    Patience is the only thing that has paid off for us in drafting recently. I can’t even remember who the last player we drafted was who was ready to be GOOD in the NHL. Halak, Plekenec, Komi( sort of) took the long route and I think that should be noticed, because we aren’t exactly drafting off of the A list most years. I don’t even know if Subban is that ready for a full year, although he will probably play it regardless. (going off of how he played later in the PO once the adrenaline seemed to wear off and the speed was catching up to him). Personally, I’d like to see him split some of the time Markov is out with Weber.

  266. madcap_habsfan says:

    it was quite funny and i am impressed it was an eight year old  that came up with that :)

  267. 24 Cups says:

    Bill – I didn’t realize that I did although I’m far from being a computer wiz .  My nephew told me this joke today and I thought it was pretty funny coming from an eight year old.  I told him I would post it on a hockey site and change the name to the person who runs it.  He thought that was pretty cool.

  268. Bill J says:

    Oh lol – it was a cute one I admit, sorry I didn’t acknowledge it :(

     

  269. nunacanadien says:

    Habs will finish last, Price will pull his prima donna act, cause hey time has not changed or improved his skills. This is our future.

  270. simons476 says:

    thankssssssssssss

  271. petefleet says:

    Ok, that’s 5 questions not 3 but this is fun anyway.

    1.Gionta : I wouldn’t want anything to take away from Cammy’s game.  The team is better off is he’s not distracted.

    2.Neither : Both have huge holes in their game.  Until one of them shows they can win in the playoffs, neither is a favotrite.

    3.Canadiens : Not by much but better.

    4.No : God I wish he would though.  With him scoring and 13,91, et al getting on the score sheet regularly, the goaltending will not be so scutinized.

    5.7 or 8 : This one really depends on Price.  If he can’t get more than 13 wins out of 41 starts, Auld will not pick up that kind of slack.

    Go Habs Go

  272. W35T5ID3 says:

    Im bored so i propose 3 questions for u all:

    1) Who would you rather see as captain….Cammalleri or Gionta?

    2)Hypothetically if u had your choice who would you rather have as habs goalie of the future…..Price or Rask?

    3)What team will have a better regular season….Tampa Bay or Canadiens?

    4)Will AK46 eclipse the 30 goal plateau?

    5)Where will we finish in the East this upcoming season?

     

     

    THANKS FOR REPLYING!

  273. ooder says:

    1) gionta

    2) either

    3) canadiens

    4)yes

    5) 4-6 range.. depending on injuries

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  274. SeriousFan09 says:

    1. Gionta

    2. Price

    3. Canadiens

    4. Yes

    5. Between the 3rd and 6th spots, BOS is only major competition for Division Title.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  275. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    1. Gionta

    2. Price

    3. Canadiens

    4. Nope, but he will be close.

    5. 7th-9th (I fear we might be injury-riddled again. Hopefully not. Knock on wood.)

  276. ProHabs says:

    Which 3 would you like me to answer.

  277. Chuck says:

    1. Gionta.

    2. <— See my avatar.

    3. Canadiens by 8 points.

    4. Not unless he gets decent powerplay time. I’ll go with 29.

    5. 5th, 1 point out of 4th.

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  278. kempie says:

    1. Gio. Cammy’s business is scoring goals, and business is good.

    2. Price

    3. Canadiens

    4. Yes if he stays healthy.

    5. 4th 102 pts.

  279. G-Man says:

    1. Both would be a very good choice.  2. Not a tough call- Rask  3. TB  4. no  5. 10th to 12th- goaltending is THAT important.

  280. Habsforlife 1959 says:

    1. Neither….Gorges for C

    2. Price

    3. Montreal

    4. No

    5. 4th

  281. The Cat says:

    Youre right Boone, it could get ugly. It makes me wonder what the habs are thinking. The longer it takes, the worse Price looks and the harder it will be for Price to win over the fans which is very important now.

  282. RGM says:

    Truly the entire season hinges on whether or not the Internet approves of Carey Price.

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  283. showey47 says:

    How the gainey era stacked up against the rest during his time as habs g.m.

     

    http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=2105

  284. twocents says:

    Careful Showey that kind of stuff is heresy around here.

    There are many people posting here who are far more knowledgeable than Gainey. 

  285. The Cat says:

    Of course it hasnt been all bad, but you know that blogger makes Gainey look good really. When you cut through the BS, theres been one playoff run on the back of Halak -thats it. Can you really say theres been a clear plan, seems more like shoot from the hip to me.

  286. New says:

    Thanks for that, never looked at it that way.

  287. twocents says:

    So does this boone and gloom apply to Eric Johnson in St. Louis? Or, Blake Wheeler in Boston? Or Bobby Ryan in Anaheim? Or Marc Stall or James Neal or Nick Bergfors or Anti Niemi or Devin Setoguchi or Andrew Ladd or Peter Mueller or James Wisniewski…

    Much lint?

    Perhaps people are taking a little break after a long season, trading period, draft day and UFA time. I bet nothing’s done until August, and I bet once the deal is signed all this will be forgotten as soon as camp begins.

  288. habrez says:

    Twocents you make too much sense.

     

  289. kirkiswork says:

    3 mil a year, for what ?

  290. TommyB says:

    Can I get an “amen”, brothers and sisters.

  291. Danno says:

     

     

    3 years

    1st @ $1.8 M

    2nd @ $2.0 M

    3rd @ $2.2 M

     

    Yes, it could get fugly.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  292. SmartDog says:

    Everyone knows the situation and the options.  There’s no-where for Price to go really…. that’s what’s so troublesome here.  Is he threatening to not sign?  It’s difficult not to speculate considering his only options besides putting his name to paper are unpleastant ones for the Habs. 

    And I can’t help but say — if we told him he was going to be our #1 guy, would Halak have signed by now?  You betcha. Price is losing fans by holding out. And the only way he can make them back is being stellar this coming year.  And so the other question is – ‘does he have the stuff to win us back’?  If that was an easy answer, he’d be worth whatever he’s asking for. But it’s not.

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  293. Habsforlife 1959 says:

    SmartDog can Carey Price signed in the KHL? Just a ? here?

  294. TommyB says:

    Re: Halak…..you don’t really know the answer to that.  Losing fans?  Do you really think that matters to today’s athlete?  Lose some here, pick up some there.  Just don’t lose your bank book.  That’s what is important.

  295. Chorske says:

    Halak would have signed. Can you imagine that guy holding out? PLEASE. Not in his nature.

    But it is what it is. We’ve got Price, who has exceptional numbers for a guy his age. He’s acting like a friggin goofball, and yeah, he isn’t making any friends here with this extended contract nonsense. I don’t get this mollycoddling, it is driving me BONKERS.

    The Habs aren’t exactly using tough love on this kid. Last we saw him, he had two misconducts in a playoff game, and an altercation with a teammate. And then we trade the “nice” goalie and trade the teammate with whom Price argued, and my question is, what message is this sending? Sure, he’s a thoroughbred- but you gotta break ‘em before you ride ‘em.

  296. RGM says:

    “Price is losing fans by holding out.”

    What a ridiculous thing to say. People who are Carey Price fans, not just bandwagoners but actual Carey Price fans, realize that he’s going through a process right now. However, he sure is giving all the people out there that already hate him and have their preconceived notions about him another perceived justification to slag him at every available opportunity.

    I wonder if Boston fans are quite so rabidly anti-Blake Wheeler, Canucks fans are lambasting Mason Raymond, and Oilers fans are trashing Jeff Deslauriers. After all, not only are these kids not signing the first deal that was offered to them, they’re taking their respective teams to arbitration! The gall! The horror! The audacity!

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  297. kempie says:

    Don’t you think that the more Price gets paid, the greater the pressure will be on him to play lights out? By holding out for more $ he raises the stakes for himself IMO. I wonder if Price & his agent are taking this into consideration. Then again, one could argue that there will always be maximum pressure on him or any other player in his position I guess.

  298. TommyB says:

    The only urgency in getting this deal done ASAP is in the mind’s of fans. Negotiating this contract is important to both sides. The player (and his agent) want to get as much as they can. No different than anyone else. And management wants to give as little as they can, due to cap considerations. Both sides will wait as long as they can. It’s in their respective best interests. Does Carey Price want to remain a Montreal Canadien? Only he knows the answer to that. Personally, I might not want to if I were him, but I’m hoping this is not the case. Is it rare or unusual that a player goes to training camp without a contract signed? The gun is not pointed at Price’s head yet. He still has time to holdout for the best contract he can get.

  299. twocents says:

    And maybe Gauthier is taking a couple of weeks off. We know there’s no time for that between September and the middle of July. Everyone deserves time away from work.

    Holy! negative inferences multiply here like bunnies in a field.

    HI/O: In the absence of factual knowledge, assume the worst.

  300. 4loorplay says:

    I dont get this whole price thing. He had a good run in when he was thrown into bulldogs playoff run and won calder cup.  Hmmm I remember jose theodore having a great year and (his first) and mtl signed him to some silly numbers for a 1st year player……what happened next…he flopped. Now price has shown what….that his stats are pretty good but he also lets in a fair share of softies that in the end killed his bottom line…wins and loses. In the big leauge he has shown (at least me) nothing to say he is a 1st stringer goalie. Jeez he came into camp after he won calder at what 25 lbs heavier….that tells me more of what kind of character he is….and its not 1st rate..at least not yet.

    JMHO

  301. RJ says:

    And we shipped the best goalie we had out of town because we thought he would ask too much money!? Now this…Cam Ward money? Are you kidding me???

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley

  302. The Cat says:

    I mean he erased the blackboard and let go half the team and resigned a bunch and the habs are now strapped with the cap some will say. Honestly couldnt most of us do that?

  303. saskhabfan says:

    What cutting through the BS are you talking about? Numbers and stats don’t lie. As much as i appreciate what halak did in some games against the caps and pens. The halak lovers (price haters) also forget the 0.845 save percentage he had in 4 loses to the flyers. If you can’t see a clear plan going forward,its because you don’t want to see it due to your blind hate (just like most of the other whiners on this site). Alot of the deadwood and cancers were let go and was replaced by some younger,hardworking,character players.

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  304. The Cat says:

    I dont care whos negative or positive on here, I care about who ends up being right in the end because talk is cheap. If you look at series wins, the habs fall to where the same level as the other riffraff.

    Half the team let go

    Trading Huet for nothing, putting all the weight on Price (and then have him play almost every game until the playoffs without a rest)

    Carbo ‘my best move’ is fired

    Trading away the heart without attempting to talk thus giving leverage to an unsigned goalie…

    I could go on but yeah it really seems like theres a plan alright, well there is, it just changes every month.

  305. saskhabfan says:

    Why,cause you said so? How did they get any better this summer? Ironic how everybody bashes our management while brian burke iced a last place team with very little injuries. Something not even reggie houle did. Should our management have traded away lottery picks. Or is the key to stand on a soap box and say big words like truculence and beligerence then turn around and trade for small players like kessel and versteeg. Just keep following the laser pointer in hopes of catching the red dot,lol.

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  306. saskhabfan says:

    According to the shown stats,i’d say it proves most can’t. Including a self-proclaimed hockey genius like yourself. I’m sure if it was brian burke in that very same position you would be more then happy to support him though.

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  307. The Cat says:

    Well the leafs will be better than the habs this year if thats what youre asking .

  308. saskhabfan says:

    Of course you don’t care because you know your on the short end of it. Huet? really? Is that all you got? The guy the hawks can’t even give away? Carbo being fired was a step in the right direction as most of his former players said and just ask the Under 18 team who were downright embarrased under his coaching. Nice to know you actually know what is being said between price’s agent and the team,please fill us in on what each party is looking for since you seem to know. Do you think he is the only rfa still negotiating a contract right now? He has no leverage,he is a ufa without arbritration. Who gives a shit how long it takes to get a contract done,it will get done. I’m sure you could try to go on and on but in reality, you can’t. Cause you have no leverage either.

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  309. The Cat says:

    I didnt say to resign Huet, they shouldve kept him til July for the sake of the playoff run. And if there was doubt with Carbo then he had no business saying it was his best move, its simple enough.

  310. The Cat says:

    Yes cause I said so ^_^

  311. saskhabfan says:

    So,don’t trade huet because they “gave him away for nothing”. Instead keep him and lose him for nothing at season’s end? Great idea. Did you forget huet lost in the first round of the playoffs? Would you have been happier if we kept huet and he lost the first round against the bruins then lost huet for nothing? Is stupid the new smart on this site?

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  312. The Cat says:

    Of course everyone needs time off, but is this not a particularly pressing matter unlike those other players you mention? What does Gauthier gain by waiting more, giving Price yet more leverage?

  313. twocents says:

    Time off is time off, Cat. If he’s on vacation, he’s on vacation and everything’s on hold until he returns.

    Until camp starts the only thing pressing this is fan impatience.

  314. The Cat says:

    If Im an owner though, Id say you sign the #1 goalie, then after you get the time off.

  315. twocents says:

    If the organization has other commitments that Gauthier must be present for and this represent the only time to take a holiday and Gauthier has reached a point with Price’s agent where both sides feel only details are required at this point, you take your leave and get a rest, so you have a clear head and a reserve of energy for the grind to come.

  316. mack8 says:

    I subscribed to your blog when is the next post

  317. SmartDog says:

    I’m not sure how you’re seeing this but I see it as a worry.  Price has not shown maturity in responding to pressures at this level.  So more pressure to me is a greater chance he’ll become a train wreck – or at least one of those goalies who never really hits the heights people all thought he could.

     

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  318. makis8 says:

    I would like to read more of your blogs and to share my thoughts with you

  319. W35T5ID3 says:

    FRIG i need hockey nowwwwww…i misss hockeeyyyyyy…im gonna cry….

  320. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    hahahah

    I officially HATE offseason. I thought this free agent frenzy was going to be this next big thing and so far it is the biggest joke I’ve ever witnessed in life and I have ruined half of my summer vacation. BAAH!

  321. W35T5ID3 says:

    i agree with all your answers….great minds think alike!

  322. W35T5ID3 says:

    what does “88 is the new 23″ mean?Im just curious.

  323. ooder says:

    well you know who some people are obsessed with the number 23…

    well at one point tony and a few other posters just kept posting over and over and over again how the habs got 88 points, and will get 88 points next season, 

    basically 88 was their number 23

    i thought it was clever :)

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  324. W35T5ID3 says:

    ohh i get it now…the movie was tripped out…..

  325. ooder says:

    ya it was pretty nuts

    one of the rare movies that jim carey doesn’t pull stupid faces as well

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    88 is the new 23

  326. W35T5ID3 says:

    we’re always injury riddled….we’re due for a injury-less season….

  327. W35T5ID3 says:

    i know….grrrr……i was so bored and so frustrated with the lack of hockey in my life now that i even registered to some maple leafs site and registered so i could diss some leaf fans in the message board/chat zone area….lmao….i hate the make-be-leafs….

  328. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    LMAO I do the same thing. I can’t believe how much they over value their players. On Leafspace, I remember this blogger mentioned that the Bruins should swap Savard and their 2nd overall pick for Kaberle and Beauchemin “straight up”. I literally died laughing and wanted to ask if he was mentally unstable until I realized that the rest of the Leafs Fans were taking it seriously. Half of them thought they were giving up too much LOL

    What’s next – Taylor Hall for negotiating rights of Mike Van Ryn? 

  329. W35T5ID3 says:

    …i hear they want James Neal ,a real good young up and comer for their garbage,Kaberle…an impending UFA after this season…..i nearly shat myself with laughter

  330. yathehabsrule says:

    It’s a known fact that every morning, Carey gets up and has a cigarette. Then he has a shot of vodka, chases it down with a Corona and says, “OK let’s see what the HIO peeps are saying today.” No wait, that’s what Boone does. :)

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  331. HardHabits says:

    Boone and I see eye to eye on at least a few things.

  332. Hockey Socks says:

    Liquor before beer, you’re in the clear.

    Beer before liquor, get sicker quicker.

     

    Good job, Boone!

  333. Bugs says:

    J’ai cassé mon biberon la première fois que je l’ai entendu celle-là.

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  334. 24 Cups says:

    Mike Boone met a fairy today who said she would grant him one wish.

     

    “I want to live forever”, Mike said.

     

    “Sorry”, said the fairy, “I can’t grant wishes like that.”

     

    MB said, “Okay I want to die when the Toronto Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup.”

     

    “You’re a crafty bastard,” she said!

  335. Bill J says:

    Why do you BOLD everything you write ?

  336. sh00n says:

    I don’t think he’d ever rock something as moronic as your avatar, though.

  337. PrimeTime says:

    Actually, quite an insult IMO to those numbers that are retired.

     

    “People build teams in certain ways. I’ve always traded for futures – not pasts.” – Sam Pollock

    The reason we are Hab fans http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=1476

  338. JIMVINNY says:

    Agree completely.  That cartoon was at least mildly acceptable when it was drawn with #11.

  339. HardHabits says:

    It’s OK PopeTime. I’ll just say a few Hail Careys and all will be forgiven.

    Hail Carey, full of grace, the Goat is with thee; blessed art thou among thoroughbreds, and blessed is the fruit of thy genes, Jesus Price. Holy Carey, Chosen by Bob, play for us whiners, now and as we hedge all our bets. Go Habs go!!!

  340. HardHabits says:

    It was an emotional drawing by Aislin, however I don’t agree with it’s premise. I in no way way agree with raising Halak’s number either. In Aislin’s case he was serious and meant it, in my case I am making a joke, it’s called satire, and it’s a jab at those who can’t let it go. I in no way support the notion I am suggesting. It doesn’t surprise me that people are offended or aghast even. HIO’s little moral majority have responded.

  341. K-hab25 says:

    Isn’t 3 months and 2 playoff rounds enough for you to see he belongs next to Dryden and Roy.

  342. punkster says:

    HI/O registration fee: zero

    Charge per HI/O comment: zero

    Sense of humour: priceless

    FREE TIMO!

  343. ZepFan2 says:

    You SoB.

    I had the perfect insult all set up and YOU ruined it!! ;)

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  344. HardHabits says:

    I am a clever SoB at that, but still mildly disappointed to not hear that perfect insult.

  345. ZepFan2 says:

    Okay, I was lying. I hadn’t come up with one just yet.

    But that’s beside the point. You ruined the vibe, man! lol

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    - Steven Tyler

  346. JIMVINNY says:

    That’s fine.  It’s just an interesting way of presenting that drawing.  usually profile pics are in some way a representation of yourself or oyur thoughts, as was your tank, or my little girl.  you can probably understand how some might think you support that concept, ridiculous as it may be. 

  347. Bugs says:

    Whereas the one with him as Jesus with the faithful around’m was just right, PT?

    C’mon, it’s all in good fun.

    “Halak did good and we loved him for it.” I think that’s what the avatar is expressing.

    Unless I’m mistaken of course.

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  348. W35T5ID3 says:

    all of them….so i fuuukt up and said 3 but i meant 5 ……wow u are a sharp 1!

  349. ProHabs says:

    God would never talk like that but I will forgive you and answer the questions.

    1) Gionta

    2) Price

    3) Montreal

    And the 2 extra questions that I will make the extra effort to answer

    4)No

    5)4th

  350. C3P1 says:

    the price signing will totally be set up by the auld signing.  by sigining an old, washed up goalie as the cheap backup for him, PG put himself in a position to be eaten up by price. carey is not going to be yanked around by the management.  but the guy has too much potential to just be allowed to walk away because of money. people hate him for this, that, or the other reason, but the fact of the matter is that he is a kid who has had literally the weight of an entire province and the hope of the greatest north american sports team in history on his shoulders since he was 21. jaro bided his time and waited for the ideal moment, then pounced.  there has never been any pressure on him to perform, so when he did well, he was a hero, and when he was bad, it was the “he’s the backup” excuse. you cannot expect goaltenders to come in and be incredible in their first years in the NHL, even high draft picks. something that every price hater on this site seems to not realize is that there will NEVER be another patrick roy. ever. you look at fleury, luongo, guys who were not very good their first years in the league because they were young, inexperienced, and had awful teams in front of them. price has excellent technique, he can handle the puck, he’s big, hes a year more confident, and now he does not have someone breathing down his neck, which is when he clearly performs better. 2nd half of 08, nobody on his behind, awesome. first half of 09, nobody on his behind, awesome.  second half of 09 and all of 10, mediocre with good moments in there. this team has much bigger problems than who is in nets, most notably, who is defending said nets. give the man his paycheck and let’s see how he does when he’s the guy for more than a week a time. I give full props to jaro and I know what he meant and still means to current habs fans, but we as a group need to give price another chance. the organization simply has invested too much him. blame gainey, blame the poutine and labatts, but he still has talent.

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  351. BJ says:

    Good assessment!

  352. andrewberkshire says:

    The funny thing about all this complaining today, is that Cam Ward’s deal that is being suggested as the benchmark, was 3 years at an average of $2.667 million per year. That’s not even 200K larger than what most people wanted Price to sign for on a 2 year deal. If that’s the deal that gets signed for 3 years, colour me enthused, because it’ll be a massive steal for the organization.

  353. Hockey Socks says:

    I would agree, but it also says that the Price Camp is also taking into account recent salary inflation in the NHL so they want a deal like Cam Ward’s + an increase in the money.

  354. Chuck says:

    Third or fourth in the conference, not overall.

    Depending on how badly the injury bug bites them this season, they could just as easily come in 8th or worse. However, I prefer to look on the bright side of life. It’s easier than walking around with a rain cloud hanging over your head all of the time.

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  355. danis8 says:

    this is nice information need to know more

  356. Chuck says:

    Ok then, what’s your guess as to where they’ll finish?

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  357. Chuck says:

    Ahh… ever the eternal optimist!

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  358. showey47 says:

    I think it will be difficult to top last season’s injury bug. We ended up 7th in man games missed with only carolina having more in our conference and look where they ended up. On top on quantity we also had quality where 4 out of our top 6 forwards missed at least 20 games and markov missed almost half the season.

  359. Bugs says:

    Here’s the thing with Larry Brooks. I would hold him in higher esteem if he didn’t often ruin his articles by saying something stupid.

    Case in point with this one: he had me until he said the word “Philadelphia”.

    Once you see the context he uses it in, you can’t help but shake your head.

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  360. Bugs says:

    Reminds me of David Spade’s “Hollywood Minute” on SNL.

    “Madonna, Mick Jagger, and Billy Ray Cyrus. Those of you who will have a career next year, step forward.

    Whoooaa, not so fast there, Billy Ray…”

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  361. K-hab25 says:

    Halak is the same crybaby that whined through the media about his playing time, but it’s not in his nature. Gimme a break!! Price, on the otherhand, is a spoiled greedy brat for keeping his trap shut and supporting Halak after losing his #1 spot. He wants to get paid the same as other goaltenders who have similar #’s (performance). The real spoiled brats are the haters like you, that can get over Halak being traded. Like a kid when his favorite toy is taken away, just piss and moan about it, instead of being an adult and getting over it.

  362. andrewberkshire says:

    Doubt it, considering goaltender salaries have DEFLATED since then, and Ward had a Conn Smythe and Stanley Cup to bargain with.

  363. K-hab25 says:

    When he signed that contract he was also coming off a season with a 2.93 gaa and a .897 sv%. The year before, his rookie year, was even worse, 3.68 gaa and a .882 sv%. Yet he was given a 3 years at 8 mill, for those pathetic #’s. Yet because of a hot streak, at the right time, this guy is put on a pedestal. He got that contract having never finished a season above .897 sv% or gaa below 2.93. His career bests, at the time, were not as good as Price’s career worst #’s. Now he’s being paid 6 mill a year, with career #’s of 2.75 gaa and a .905 sv%, but Price would be overpayed at 3 mill, with 2.73 gaa and a .912 sv% during his career. A few more tid bits, Ward was 22 as a rookie, Price is 22 now and Ward was 18-23-5 with a 2.69 gaa and a .916 sv% this year. I added that last part for those that harp on Price’s record this year at 22, Ward was 26. If Ward is worth 6 mill, Price is worth atleast 3 mill.

  364. habrez says:

    Great post

  365. Bill J says:

    Argh! Boone.

    First off I am thankful you (or whoever did it) banned callyjo.  But to flush it down with THIS entry ???

    COME ON!!!!!!

    At least add some balance to the post.  IE add Robert L’s blog entry about how the media tends to over inflate what the Habs do.

    All about balance Boone! :)

  366. Clay4bc says:

    Ditto on 2, 3, and 4..on

    #1 I am firmly for Gionta,

    and for #5 I think we will be 13th to 14th…because goaltending IS that important!

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