Taking stock of fancy-skating P.J.

Recognize the guy behind the mask?

The NHL thinks Ron Francis was a better number 10 than Guy Lafleur (thanks, NightRyder).

• Pat Hickey talks to P.J. Stock about the Battle of the Blades: “You
get $25,000 for the charity of your choice just for participating and
$100,000 if you win,” Stock explained. “I talked it over with my wife
and we agreed it was a way to give something back. We’ve been fortunate
that our kids are healthy.”

Arpon Basu says the acquisition of Jeff Halpern may mean a lighter load for Tomas Plekanec. Arpon also suggests the likely forward lines this season.

And Mark C posts some interesting Jeff Halpern stats:

– Halpern had 47 blocked shots last season, which would have ranked him
3rd among Montreal forwards, behind only Pleks’ 63 and Moen’s 51 and 11
more blocked shots than Lapierre.

– Halpern averaged 2:24 of PK
time per game in Tampa last season, which would have ranked 2nd behind
only Pleks’ 2:44 among Montreal forwards.

– Halpern’s FO% of 51.6% would have lead Montreal.    

Shout-out to Watsatheo for this very loud Jeff Halpern compilation


TSN’s Fantasy projections. Highest Canadien is Scott Gomez at number 40.

Jean Charest promises Quebec will pay 45 per cent of the cost of a new Colisée. Yvon Pedneault approves.

Redesigned Capgeek. Canadiens have $778,273 to spend.

• James Mirtle Tweets: “I guess because I’m from B.C. originally I don’t quite understand the intense hatred for all things Leafs.” Maybe it’s because they invite thugs to training camp.

• SB Nation’s mock NHL expansion draft
Scott Gomez is picked third … by the Nordiques!  

 Stan Bowman gets a promotion.


  1. mike g says:

    If one penny from my tax money goes towards that arena, I’m moving to Vermont….

    These rich businessmen who own extreamly rich corporations need money to build a building that will just generate them more money? I don’t think so….

    When I wanna build an office, I pay for it on my own. The gov’t doesn’t give me taxpayers dollars, just because I’ll be creating jobs and stimulating the economy.

    If anything, the gov’t should help out us regular people and not the big/rich corporations who can afford to build empires.

    What a crock of bull…


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  2. derfab says:

    Unless he’s playing with Pleks and Cammaleri!

  3. Chuck says:

    Hopefully Liambas will break a sprocket and smear Nazem Kadri all over the endboards. That’d look good on the Laffs. Once again, Brian Burke proves that douchebags love company.

  4. JD_ says:

    Yes, but when the winger is near the boards, the D-man knows the faceoff circle will be the point where the goalie knows the puck is before the slot becomes the area near where the faceoff first was before the puck moved. So size becomes the same as when the line change sees the guy playing center pass the puck behind the net. It’s guys like Beukeboom who knew that when the puck came back out they could make the D-man play the goalie.

  5. B says:

    we really need size on defense

    Here is a comparison of D size between Cup champs Chicago, Montreal and the Flyers who knocked off Montreal in the Eastern final. Listed are the top 6 D on each team (listed by playoff TOI) followed by their height in inches and their weight in pounds. I have totalled and averaged the height and weight of those top 6 D for each of the teams:

    Keith 73 196
    Seabrook 75 218
    Hjalmarsson 75 205
    Sopel 73 201
    Campbell 72 189
    Hendry 72 197
    Total Height: 440 / 6 = 73.333
    Total Weight: 1206 / 6 = 201

    Gorges 73 200
    Hamrlik 74 207
    Gill 79 241
    Bergeron 69 198
    Suban 72 206
    Markov 72 207
    Total Height: 439 / 6 = 73.1666
    Total Weight: 1259 /6 = 209.8333

    Pronger 78 220
    Timonen 70 194
    Carle 72 205
    Coburn 77 220
    Krajicek 75 205
    Parent 75 198
    Total Height: 447 / 6 = 74.5
    Total Weight: 1242 / 6 = 207

    Not Counted for Montreal:
    O’Byrne 77 234
    Spacek 72 210
    For next year, you can replace Bergeron on Montreal’s list and he was the smallest in both height and weight. So, size wise, is that really a problem for Montreal?

  6. derfab says:

    I agree that it would be hard to stomach. But Charest is desperate and has no real choice other than to quit while Peladeau knows that the team will be as good or better for the Quebec economy than it will be for him.

    Albertans will rant, but are not very relevant here for two reasons: 1- Albertan wealth and self-sufficiency is built on something that is as harmful and morally questionable as it is enriching, 2- Though Harper has Alberta, with or without it, Quebec decides federal elections based on how much support they take away from the liberals and give to the bloc.

  7. punkster says:

    Wadaminute, wadaminute…whoa, whoa…BTFU dude. Are we talkin’ the ’74 thru ’79 Tardif or the the ’79 thru ’83 Tardif?


  8. HFX-HabFan says:

    Underrated, yes, an “elite” or dominant player, no.  Dude only played in 4 all-star games in his long career and had a lower points-per-game.

    Not to mention he also wore number 9 for most of his time in Hartford and his first few days in Pittsburgh.  Lafleur should be number 10.

  9. aemarchand11 says:

    thanks for the info, ill be there as well.

    Go Habs Go!

  10. Top Corner says:

    ….you lost us at “i read on TSN” !!!

  11. adam76 says:

    I, too, have tickets for this game. Can’t wait.

  12. notbigbird says:

    That pretty well nails it. Thanks. There never was a question IMO, but it’s nice to see a few facts.

  13. notbigbird says:

    He seems like a good addition, but unless the brass thinks we can seriously challenge for the cup this year, I think we should be moving some young players up — if they’re any good, of course — and maybe that’s the problem.

  14. ZepFan2 says:

    Simple Jack


    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  15. notbigbird says:

    My personal opinion: Hull was a superstar, and I’m not even sure that I’d classify Clark as a star. Well, I probably would — reluctantly. As for the Pocket (see below): fine player who played on a strong team behind Beliveau, so he’s not in the mix.

  16. punkster says:

    1 and 2 – Good signing for little cash. The kids in Hamilton are just going to have to work harder and give us more than just a few games of flash when they get here.

    3. Maybe his Mom.

    4. I refuse to get into Gomez debates again until the season gets underway.

    5. The Others


  17. HabFanSince72 says:

    If Alberta wants to separate  I won’t shed a tear.

  18. StevieRay says:

    Leblanc coning to Halifax to play the Mooseheads on Oct 7…I’ll be there … can’t wait for a sneak preview

    Nice to have Halpern especially if he’s on the PK… gives our top six forwards a rest and allows them to do what we’re paying them for …offense !


  19. joeybarrie says:

    John Kreiser is WAY OFF…  Francis was a GREAT player…. But he was NO GUY LAFLEUR.

    Francis 1.04 PTS per game                Lafleur 1.2 PTS per game

    Francis 2 Stanley cups                       Lafleur 5 Stanley Cups

    Francis 4 All Star Games                    Lafleur 6 All Star Games

    Francis best season 119 PTS              Lafleur best season 136

    Francis won:                                     Lafleur won:

        -1 Slelke, 1 Clancy, 3 Lady Bings    -3 Art Ross, 2 Hart, 3 Lester B. Pearson, 1 Conn Smyth and 1 Lou                                                          Marsh (being CANADA’S TOP ATHLETE)

    Francis is not on the The Hockey News top 100 Hockey Players, Lafleur is #11…

    Lafleur had 6 (in a row) 50 goal seasons, Francis none…         

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  20. derfab says:

    Don’t get me wrong, I love the dangerous, violent dimension of hockey. But I also suspect (and almost hope) that Scott Stevens is somehow paying for all the vicious, deliberate and completely unecessary head shots he doled out.

  21. WarHero says:

    Of course, 13 feet of goal tender is never enough 🙂 hahaha


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  22. Bob Dobbs says:

    Please do not denigrade tofu and peace by associating them with the United Nations, thank you.

  23. longtimehabsfan says:

    Sorry if I misunderstood.

  24. pic1983 says:

    1.  I hated it at first specifically because of question number 2, taking away a roster spot from a young player.  For $600K though, I’m not going to sit here and bash PG all day, it actually costs us less against the cap than a guy like paccioretty.  I’m going to file this transaction in the cedric-desjardins-for-kari-ramo file of insignificant roster moves. 

    2.  It would be a big problem, but looking at the stat sheets from hamilton last year, I dont think we have any prospect who should be considered a lock to fill the bottom 6 spot thats going to halpern.  Also, no prospect we have can match halperns versatility (I think halpern could fill in on the PP or in the Top-6 for a short period of time for injury relief if need be).

    3.  Nope.  Can’t stand the guy.  Every single day he was on the team 990 he made a bigger and bigger fool of himself.  CBC seems to have done a good job of reigning him in. 

    4.  Top fantasy pick from the habs in my books is either Pleks or Cammy.  However, I believe Gomez will have a great season, and I’m going to throw himz a bone and file him in the “the best is yet to come” category.

    5.  Gotta go back to Les Nordiques.

  25. longtimehabsfan says:

    We need more size in goal, too.  LOL!!!

  26. SmartDog says:

    I’ve seen Tropic Thunder.  Classic funny movie… at least if you see it in the right mood.  It was on the other night and I watched 10 mintues and thought “this is the dumbest movie ever” and turned it off, but hte next mornnign was chuckling over it again. 

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  27. Rugger says:

    Just e-mailed this one to my Bruins fan daughter (changing the team of course!)

  28. mike g says:


    It’s actually a line from a movie trailer in the movie Tropic Thunder. You gotta watch that movie to understand it.

    But basically the quote means that his dreams make him cry. He just says it in a funny way


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  29. SmartDog says:

    How about:

    Les Colocs – it would make it easier ot pick their opening music

    Les Quebec Pure Laines – they could have a white sheep with a hockey stick



    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  30. punkster says:

    Mom burned the toast again this morning?


  31. derfab says:

    I guess I wasn’t clear. I also think Lafleur was the better player and that the comparison is a false one, only made possible only by the fact that Francis made himself useful for 20 years. Lemaire or Dionne and Francis are more comparable, but they didn’t wear the same number.

  32. Storm Man says:

    The hot topic of the day. Quebec City wants a new arena to bring a NHL team back to the city this is great news. The federal government hands out 14.4 billion in equalization payments this year and Quebec get’s 8.5 billion this is good news so this money goes where? maybe for all the nice roads? no must be for the new hospitals? no Im wrong again maybe it is going under someones bed. I don’t understand why Peladeau does not just build the new arena himself. I understand the view Charest has in this matter as he is a top level a$$ kisser(he must have alot of chapstick). This has become a very hot topic across Canada and it did not have to. I hope Peladeau has GB word that when a new arena is in place Quebec will have a team. The red-necks in Alberta will be pissed if any federal money goes to help Quebec city with a arena and would want Alberta to separate from Canada. Harper knows he should just sit on the sidelines on this matter like he does on most. I for one want Quebec City to have a team back in the city but not with federal money as it would be a huge mistake for the rest of Canada moving forward.

  33. SeriousFan09 says:

    He had better health which is a lot of luck and sometimes genetics working your way, if Lafleur had not suffered his knee injury, he might have had more 100+ point seasons. Lafleur’s career would have taken him through the wild scoring era of the 80s and likely ended around the same time as his 2nd retirement, potentially finishing in the top 10 of the NHL even.

    There are six players ahead of Lemieux in NHL career scoring, but only Gretzky gives him a run for his money in a head-to-head contest. Francis had taken a bad knee injury in his prime, it might have seriously hacked at his career totals.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  34. mike g says:

    Ron Francis…

    I remember him scoring many goals and being a very, very good player. But my biggest memory of him will always be this:


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack



    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  35. smiler2729 says:


    I’ve always thought Jeff Halpern rocked and wished Montreal coulda got him, thanks Gauths!

  36. WarHero says:

    Since when does not having a defensemen under 6 feet mean you need size on defense?



    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  37. SmartDog says:

    Halpern’s goal scoring seems very opportunistic which I like.  That’s how our team plays, lots of small passes and movement. He seems to be good at picking up the puck and firing it quickly rather than carrying it and that’s what Gio does so well, what Gomez, Gio, Pleks etc. set up.

    I have to ask…I’ve never seen Simple Jack.  Can you explain that quote?  Is it a key/funny line in the movie?


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  38. Jordio-oh says:

    Halpern also average more hits per game last year than Gomez, Pleckanec and Metro.

    Now, that’s not saying a whole lot, but it fits well enough into what you’ve already provided.

  39. mike g says:

    He played for the Leafs, so his stats should always have an asterisk next to them.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  40. Chuck says:

    In regards to the NHL “by the numbers” list, how do you keep any credibility by mentioning Felix Potvin as being “in the mix” when discussing the greatest player to have worn #29?

  41. habrez says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe Jeff Halpern is the only current Hab who has ever been a captain in the NHL, with his hometown Capitals. So I like this signing.

    We are also turning into the Leafs with all these Americans (Max Pac, Gomez, Gionta, Gill, Halpern, plus all of our prospects). The only difference is we seem to get the more talented ones.


  42. SeriousFan09 says:

    No doubt Francis was a very good, consistent player over his career, but Lafleur set the record for quickest player to hit 1000 points (before Gretzky) and his career was only cut short by a knee injury and Jacques Lemaire starting the campaign to prevent hockey from being interesting.

    Lafleur could fill the back of the net with fluid ability and he made Steve Shutt a HOF player, Francis was good but Lafleur still has more career goals despite playing over 600 fewer games and just ruled the game when he played.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  43. andrewberkshire says:

    Only 3 players in NHL history have more points than Francis. He also had more longevity.

  44. Mark C says:

    Who would have been a better fit? I remember Johnson as a nice 3rd liner that helped Montreal during his one year here. I don’t like the +/- stat, but he was one of the few plus players on the 2006-07 Habs. He was also 5th in hits and 3rd in blocked shots among forwards and that’s counting Dandenault who I think played some D that season.

  45. volcano62 says:

    LOL I love it 🙂

    Go Habs Go!

  46. JD_ says:

    Ok, but what about the player when a goalie is challenged by the player’s faceoff and the winger isn’t covering the point when the D pinches after the goalie’s play? Seems to me there’s no possibility for the size factor to change that when the slot is covered by both players who come out of the faceoff and the puck isn’t back to the point. I think what should happen is that the wingers from both sides know that the faceoff isn’t going to be the goalie’s responsibilty so that a guy like Tardif isn’t backing up.

  47. mike g says:

    OK SmartDog, I’m gonna have fun with #5….

    Team name possibilities:

    – Les Quebecois de Quebec (because they’ll be composed of 23 French-Canadian players, due to the media’s obsession for this)

    – Le Pays de Quebec (their logo can be the outline of the Province, or as their name and thaughts point out, their new Country)

    – Les Faches du Quebec (cuz for some reason Quebequers are always aggressive and always complain about everything)


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  48. longtimehabsfan says:

    If longevity were the only criteria then I would agree with you.  Compare baseball history to this situation.  Why is it that Sandy Koufax is regarded as the best lefty of all time rather than Steve Carlton or Randy Johnson, both who lasted much longer than Koufax?  Because for a period of five to six years no pitcher dominated like Koufax.  The same can be said for Lafleur.  From 1974-75 to 1979-80 he was the best player in the game.  Ron Francis was never the best player in the game at any point in his career and certainly never came close to having 6 years like the ones Lafleur had.

  49. HabFanSince72 says:


    Someone ranked him above the Flower.


  50. habfan53 says:

    Speaking of Leafs:


    I met a buddy today who was talking to a fairy. The fairy granted him a wish. . “I want to live forever,” He said.
    “Sorry,” said the fairy, “I’m not allowed to grant wishes like that.”
    “Fine,” He said,
    “I want to die when Toronto wins the Stanley cup.”
    “You crafty bastard!” said the fairy.

  51. nunacanadien says:

    Its his inability to fight or push back which is an issue.  Sure Halpern can on occasion give a dirty hit in the corners, but overall, he is a typical peace-loving hard working falling down vet in the Johnson model.  Remember Johnson?  Wasn’t he also around Halpern’s height, great two way player, but spent most of the game flat on his back, cause he just was not big enough or fat enough but just big enough to push down.

  52. nunacanadien says:

    I read on TSN where one poster in their comments site asks, why sign Halpern if we don’t have any Bulldogs to call up who could take over the RH centre position.  This is a good question.  When we really need size on defense, and most of all size up front, why sign an average-below-average passive player like Halpern?  Sure people harp about his two way play, but if your not a hitter then you’re a skater.  Great another peace loving tofu player joins the Tofu eating peace loving Habs.  Welcome to the United Nations Peace Program.

  53. Rugger says:

    I’d also take Maurice over Howe.

  54. Mark C says:

    I have no idea about what you’re trying to say, but Halpern year-in-year-out has always had great face-off numbers, so unless he starts to shrink, his size shouldn’t be an issue.

  55. longtimehabsfan says:

    Henri Richard was better than all of them.

  56. andrewberkshire says:

    Put Francis on the 70’s Canadiens and you’d probably have the same amount of cups. Easily the most underrated player of all time.

  57. mike g says:

    1- Too early to rate the move, but if it works out as planned he gets an A++. For 600k, Halpern can be a steal if he scores 15 goals, plays sound defensive hockey, and takes away some PK minutes from Pleks. Me likes the deal….

    2- I’m sure the team evaluated their prospects and came to the conclusion that maybe only 1 of them was ready to make the leap to the NHL. No need to rush a bunch of them and ruin careers. I have no problem signing vets to basically plug a hole for a year until the young ones are ready. Some people have no clue how fragile and important a good development is, and how it can ruin very good players if not done properly. I’m sure this was a calculated move.

    3- Um….wtv. Sounds like a cool guy sometimes, sounds like a weirdo other times.

    4- G-love…..hahaha.

    5- Les Poutines


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  58. nunacanadien says:

    If only he can keep up his FO%.  Size usually has a factor to play in the overall number of Faceoffs won.  In otherwords, if the other big team is pushing you around, chances are your Centre Hice fellow will not have great Faceoff stats.  We only need to look at one of our most excellent Faceoff fellows, Koivu as a gleaning example of how a player could not buzz around D-men just cause he is small.  No team unless you are a very skilled player can take advantage of small size vs big D-men.  In a way Halpern then if he wins, helps to remove one obstacle, that is the rush towards the Habs net and a sure floater going in on Price.

  59. punkster says:

    #16 Brett Hull over Bobby Clarke? Don’t get me wrong, I hated Clarke with a passion, and who didn’t, but he was the epitome of 70s hockey. I suppose this list depends on scoring stats so in that regard…

    Now #4, I gotta ask…where’s the love for Mike Pelyk? Nobody and I mean NOBODY could ice the puck with such assurance and authority as Mike Pelyk.


  60. SeriousFan09 says:

    And that’s a double.

  61. SeriousFan09 says:

    1. Silver, it does kind of cut off chances for advancement by the prospects unless injuries kick in and we’re all tired of hearing aobut those.

    2. They still have a chance to outplay Darche and knock him off the roster and it wouldn’t hurt Pacioretty to spend the year in the A after his up-and-down ride in the last couple years.

    3. About his getting sacked from CBC in the near future? Hoping for that.

    4. Gomez is getting underestimated by TSN and so is Pleks, only Pleks is getting grossly underestimated. With Gionta for the season and an active Pouliot or Eller, that can line can generate quite a bit.

    5. Quebec Xenophobe’s delight.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  62. Mark C says:

    Since it is another slow news day, how about a few more thoughts on Jeff Halpern:

    A lot of talk about how Halpern is replacing Metro or Moore, however I think Halpern replaces some of the best attributes of both players. Halpern replaces Metro’s RH shot and ability to score on the PP. Also, Halpern replaces Moore’s face-off %, defensive awareness, and ability to play on the PK. In essence Halpern is a Metro/Moore hybrid.  Now, Halpern isn’t a world beater, and at best he represents only a marginal upgrade over one of the Moore/Metro combo of last season. Halpern’s value to the team is found in his ability to fill so many roles due to how well rounded his game is. Add in his leadership, was captain of team USA in the 2008 World Championships, where he injured his knee.

    A lack of adding toughness and the loss of a roster spot for a young player are legit claims. However, looking at the projected bottom six, there is a lot of girt, and these lines will be hard to play against. As far as the rookies go, that situation will play itself out. There will be injuries, only 4 Montreal forwards played in 75 games or more. Also, players like White and Max-Pac won’t be hurt by additional time spend in the A.         

    A few fun facts:

    Halpren had 47 blocked shots last season, which would have ranked him 3rd among Montreal forwards, behind only Pleks’ 63 and Moen’s 51 and 11 more blocked shots than Lapierre.

    Halpern averaged 2:24 of PK time per game in Tampa last season, which would have ranked 2nd behind only Pleks’ 2:44 among Montreal forwards.

    Halpern’s FO% of 51.6% would have lead Montreal.     

  63. mike g says:

    Very excited….

    About the addition of Halpern. I’ve followed him a little throughout his career. I used to watch alot of Caps games back when Jagr went there, because as you all know Jaromir was the man for me.

    Anyways, very smart player overall. He may have lost a little speed, but a smart player will always adjust his game properly. One thing I always liked about him, and you can see this very well in the video, is that he has a thing for scoring late-game goals. Check it out in the video, and you’ll see how many of his goals come in the 3rd period. I’m not saying he’s clutch, but alot of his goals come from the dirty area infront of the net or in the goalers crease, often the result of a broken play or a rebound.

    Metro was good for us last year, but late in the season it looked like he got hit by a truck. I really think Jeff will replace him, and also take away some PK time from Pleks as some suggested.

    So for 600k…..shoot inside.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  64. Puck Bard says:

    1. Tell you after the first 10 games

    2. Not a problem. Someone always gets injured.

    3. Not me.

    4. He’s not my pick. I’d take about 4-5 others first.

    5. Patriotes

  65. Sakus Evil Twin says:

    Re: Halpern: Probably mentioned below… but I would have preferred Guerin at $1M.

    Ran into PJ Stock at Fairview on Sunday… he’s a good guy who took some time to talk about his kids.

    No answers, just opinions. Bite me. Och.

  66. habfan53 says:

    How can you take the guy seriously when he thinks Denis Savard invented the spin-a rama.??

    As for the Francis / Lafleur number , would you rather fill the seats or win championships OHHH thats Lafleur on both counts.

  67. Rugger says:

    1. Silver maybe, good signing but not Gold.

    2. not at all, 1 player does not keep a handful down on the farm.  If they are ready, they will push their way on.

    3. who?

    4. neither, he’s not great, he’s very good.  I expect better this year because I expect fewer top 6 injuries.

    5. Pacifiers

  68. longtimehabsfan says:

    I would look at it as follows:  Guy Lafleur was clearly the best player on Cup teams that featured at least 10 Hall of Famers.  You cannot say the same about Ron Francis and the teams he played for.

  69. LA Loyalist says:

    It’s an apples and oranges comparison and thus ridiculous and not worthy of discussion.

    While Francis is a highly admirable player and anyone would want him, Lafleur was unique and should be honored as such.

    Here’s a bad analogy – what’s a better car? A Porsche 911 or a 7 Series BMW? They are two totally different things and no one would compare them that way.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  70. SmartDog says:


    1. Arpon’s article makes a good case that the Halpern signing is a shrewd one in a couple of ways.  What do you think? Does PG get a gold star for this one?

    2. Doh!… but the Halpern signing has a down side. It also makes it very unlikely that a handful of hopeful prospects will make it out of Hamilton this year.  How big a problem is this?

    3. Does anyone really give a rat’s ass about PJ Stock?

    4. Scott Gomez our top fantasy pick?  Pulleeaaassseee. In MY fantasy, Scott Gomez still plays for the Rangers. But I digress….  But for those of you who believe in him more than I do (I think that’s most of you) is Gomez a case for “the numbers lie” (because his numbers don’t even approach greatness), or “the best is yet to come”?

    5. If Quebec has a hockey team and it’s NOT called the Nordiques, what would you call it?



    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  71. LA Loyalist says:

    Gomez at #40? That proves it’s a fantasy league.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  72. avatar_58 says:

    I withhold judgement of Halpern until I see the man play a few dozen games. I yelled at him for trading for Moore, boy was I wrong. Who knows right?

  73. derfab says:

    Francis was an excellent two-way centre who used his smarts to hang on for 4 or 5 years past his due date.

    Lafleur is one of the greatest wingers in nhl history who wouldn’t compromise and was forced out 4 or 5 years early.

    No real comparison.

  74. longtimehabsfan says:

    Ron Francis better than The Flower?  Only if you watched both of them play with your eyes closed.  Realistically, that list could have been dominated by Habs players. 

  75. derfab says:

    A discount upgrade from Metro who can win face-offs. Bad knees (?). Signing D’Arche looks even weirder now. Since the bottom six is busier with solid old vets, the young guys will be looking up past them.

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