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The indefatigable corunguneee has put together a 13-minute Erik Cole mash-up.
And this is the one jeanbenoitduval did:
Well Cole will need a legitimate creative center…and that will be more than likely Pleks. 1st time in a long time Habs have had 2 legit power forwards with size…that can score=Cole and Patches. If Gomez can play to the numbers he has in past, The Habs will be a team tough to beat. The roster’s gotta stay healthy tho. We’ll have a good all round team…young with a little bit of experience. Excited for the 2011-2012 season! Bring it on!
No doubt he and Max can create some havoc up front and “in front.”
Still not one toughie on the back end and or third or fourth line though.
Chara should never mess with our players again. Take him down.
If MTL has the opportunity to trade for a player such as Suter of Nashville or Keith Yandle, would we be willing to move Pactioretty, Georges, Weber, and / or some young prospects such as Leblanc? Not to mention a few 1st round picks.
Great job, corungunee. Watched the whole thing and it took my pulse up. Valuable intro/welcome. Cheers!
I know it’s highlights from 8 years, and he won’t score/hit like that every game. But the guy’s a player. And the FINISH that he has could prove deadly given the linemates he’s likely to have. (And love his speed on the outside and cutting in).
Kudos PG. Cole produces, guys stay healthy, last year’s underperformers step up…
I have nothing to say, no gripe, no armchair brilliance, no warhorse wittily worded!
So read on!
There’s a new 26 in town boys!
26 is the only single number between a square (25 = 52) and a cube (27 = 33). Jm stick Cole between your ‘squarest’ guy in the room and your most 3 dimensional thinker.
26 is the atomic number of IRON. Talk about adding GRIT!
26 was Peter Statsny number.. remember him habsfans.
OH YEAH…. 26 is my BIRTHDAY….. just saying!
Love the up beat BUT 26 belongs to Josh Gorges…just saying!
Details details! LOL!
26 goals was also Gomez’s top year. So we sign a more expensive more gritty version of Gomez, wow…..so that will not answer in any way our need for more offense.
If anything it speaks to JM’s style of play. Which is bore the other team to death and you can win the game. Unfortunately some of those teams that want the stanley cup refused to get bored with the five on five. It only worked in one game of the series against Boston and it sucked.
Maybe it is time the Molsons, you bastards if you are reading this, why the heck did you sign another Gomez style player knowing we hate his laziness?
Huh? Gomez’s most goals in a season is 33 goals, in 2005-2006 seriously how do you make such a dumb mistake in this day and age, all you gotta do is google Scott Gomez.
I wouldn’t get too excited about Cole. He’s not much of a clutch performer. 14 pts in 48 playoff games and -8 to boot. Not sure JM is going to be able to get more out of him this late in his career. Can he score 25 goals in the MTL system? He had better for $4.5 million for 4 yrs. Keep in mind that he played with an elite centreman at the height of his career and only scored 25 goals. I’m not saying he’s a bum, but Jagr for 1 or 2 years may have been a better option. That said, he was the best power forward available, but 4 years? Yikes.
On a lighter note, is Gomer gone yet? Does anybody have a bag of pucks they want to get rid of?
at 6m we need camm to score 30-35 ….
I would agree that more goal in the regular season would be good from Cammy but he only played 60+ games and was hampered by injuries much that time. In the playoffs, when it really counts, he was back to his usual clutch play. It would be very difficult to ask for more from him. He, unlike someone else his size, shows up almost every night. Cammy is a real superstar and hopefully this year we’ll get to see that.
Cole is only 31 so it is not late in his career and 4 years is perfect. He should be in his peak years. We shall see how he performs in playoff action with the Habs and all the excitement and pressure that comes with it compared to Carolina…..I am not sold on Jagr and his 3 year deal; now there is a player who is very late in his career. Cole was the better pick for the Habs but I would have liked Jagr also for a year or 2. Flyers will rue the day they signed Jagr for 3 years.
Philly signed Jagr for 1 year @ $3.5 million. As for Cole, you’re right, he should be coming into his best years but to date he has been underwhelming. 4 years was 1 year too long but time will tell.
My mistake on Jagr`s term…..yes time will tell on Cole….how knows what kind of a team we will have in 3 or 4 years.
Cole is 32, going to be 33 pretty soon. Seriously why is this the second dumb mistake on here today? At least it’s not as bad as saying Gomez’s top year was 26 goals
Seriously, you miss the point over a clerical error. Give me and everyone else a break Mr. Perfect.
Not clutch? Look that the time and situation his goals are coming from.
I respectfully disagree. If you watch the video, the bulk of Cole’s goals are either his team’s 1st of the game, the tying goal, or go ahead goal…this guy drives to the net like no one on the Habs does today (with the exception of maybe Gionta and Max Pac). I for one am glad he is on the team. Best free agent forward available after Richards, Jagr, and Talbot in my opinion…
“To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high!”
When is Gorges signing? I’m getting nervous. I think he wants a deal that goes along side Pricey’s. So he’s probably asking for a 1 year to see what Price does when his deal is up.
A player coming back from a serious knee injury and surgery wouldn’t be looking for a 1 year deal. If anything, they’d want term.
There’s no rush to sign Gorges and White. We qualified both of them so a deal can be made anytime. I’d like to see them get signed soon too, but I wouldn’t sweat it. Last year we didn’t sign Price until September.
– Honestly yours
What in the world makes you say that? Makes no sense at all. Why, because they’re friends lol?
Are you kidding me? I honestly think gorges hasn’t been signed yet because of the possibilty of him being traded. I mean its not like gorges has alot of leverage to be asking for a huge contract.
MTL is rumored to be inquiring into the availability of Keith Yandle…..
maybe a trade coming? do you think maybe gorges is not in our future plans all of a sudden? yandle hell of a player for sure and would be great but wat would we be giving up gorges just being a gut feeling but i feel its something a little bigger and gomez to hawks they need a center and we are rumored as well with the hawks but it does not make sense!wat would be coyotes angle here besides getting to the min salary floor?
red white and true
Gomez to the Hawks?? Where did that come from?? That’s like Ecklund on steroids. CHI has no need for a center and are already a cap tight team.
Yandle doesn’t want to sign long term, so they’re looking at other options
Where exactly did you hear anything about MTL enquiring into Keith Yandle?
I wouldn’t put much faith into it. A few other posters mentioned this yesterday and today but the whole thing seems very unlikely….unless we’re gonna do to Phoenix what T.O. did to Nashville earlier today.
I saw it on thefourthperiod
link is here: http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/mtl110703.html
great read on hammer stubbs well done! i wish him luck and thks for his years of service with the canadiens.
Good on San Jose for ejecting playoff dead weight and bringing in a guy who gives a damn. Havlat may not pile up what Heatley can do in the RS but he will bring it in the playoffs each times, CHI’s big run to the WCF in 2009 before DET knocked them off owed a lot to his play.
Burns on the back end to give Dan Boyle a break and Havlat into their still very good offensive core makes SJS very capable of retaining their Pacific Division Title.
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I like the Cole signing. I don’t love it. I thinl maybe one year too long and about 500 000 to 800 000 too much per year but we have to overpay because of UFA contracts. Cole definitely makes us better in our top 6 if we stay healthy. Budaj? Meh! Whatever, he will play 15 to 20 games and hopefully doesn’t suck. Hope they get Gorges signed. When does the second development camp start?
Is Gomez still with us?
Is the sky still blue?
@Bill: You asked what I think the Habs will probably do to upgrade.
Simply put, sign a stay at home defence man and a gritty, not too small, speedy R-handed 4th line centre who can win face-offs.
But my wish list is this; sign Anton Babchuck, make an offer sheet for Brandon Dubinsky, trade Gomez.
trade Gomez for Stastny
trade Spacek for Yandle.
sign Scott Hannan
sign Jerred Smithson
Sign White and Gorges.
Cole – Pleks – Cammy
Patches – Stastny – Gio
DD – Eller – AKos
White – Smithson – Moen
wishes are fun!
Since General Managers are all going bananas. I’ve got a modest wish list here. Pierre, I know you’re checkin up on what I’ve got to say. So please take note.
Malkin, Crosby, Giroux, Tavares, Zajac, Dubinsky, Stamkos, Eric Staal, Backstrom, Backes, Toews, Brassard, Kopitar, Marleau, Couture, Pavelski, Turris, M.Koivu, Stastny, Gagner or Kesler.
Now, unlike other fans. I’m not greedy. I only want one. And I want you to get one of them without giving up any of the following……
It’s the Habs, they should be entitled to all of them while giving up nothing!
Do it PG!!!!
An offer sheet for Dubinsky satisfies that request Tom.
Would you say a 1st and a 3rd are worth it? I certainly do. If so then the why not the added 2nd? Is it really that much more in terms of cost.
No offer sheet. Trade yes. And I could live with a first round pick. Nothing more.
Because Montreal has not selected in the 2nd round for 3 years now, missing out on a number of quality prospects and we can’t just throw away that kind of drafting opportunities for the staff of Trevor Timmins just to get another 2nd-line-on-his-best-day forward.
If this was last summer and we were talking 1-2-3 picks to land Bobby Ryan I’d say hell yes, but Dubinsky, no. It was bad enough we ceded our 1st in 2008 and our 2nd in 2009 for Alex Tanguay (No opp to draft Carlson, Ennis, Adam, Stepan, Hamonic in ’08, no chance for Orlov, McNabb, Blacker or Tatar in ’09!) Enough futures have been given away for guys who couldn’t push the team ahead further.
PG: “Sorry, Tom–they’re all unavailable. Would you settle for Ovechkin?”
Habs: Possessors of the league’s best PK–now, and for the foreseeable future
how come i dont see my posts???
lets bring in corey stillman to play with erik cole
Slightly more Habs related question: why do so many people want Zenon Konopka? From all the talk I figured he must be a 6’8″ cyclops who wrestles bears. In fact he’s 6’0″, 200lb, and not even that great a fighter, judging by video evidence.
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Dime a dozen. Smithson, Nichol, Ryan Johnson, Madden all still available to the best of my knowledge.
All play with an edge and all are good at winning faceoffs. Konopka sounds like a Greek delicacy.
Haha I went out for some konopka last week actually
I like Smithson
As Berkshire pointed out to me yesterday, Smithson has already signed in Nashville to a two-year deal. He would be a great fit for us I think, but it’s unlikely that we can get him.
If this question ain’t addressed to you, it ain’t meant for NO-body.
Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.
Alright, alright. I’m awake now Bugs.
End of story.
BTW Bugs I bet Pouliot could take Konopka.
Haha, so Heatley could name ten teams to which he wouldn’t accept a trade and he forgot about Minnesota! Love it. Love it love it love it. Edmonton and Ottawa fans must be buying each other rounds right about now.
Hey Dany, guess what? Minneapolis is smaller than Edmonton, just as cold, PLUS everyone talks all funny like Fargo. Enjoy.
He probably has a clause in his contract that he only has to play road games on the west coast.
I guarantee he pulls up limp with an injury within 20 games.
Minneapolis-St Paul is almost as big as Montreal… Almost 4 times bigger than Edmonton.
There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…
And they have way gooder fishing there too. They don’t call’em the twin cities fur nuffin
According to Wikipedia, population of Minneapolis last year was 382,000, and Saint Paul was 285,000: = 667,000? Population of Edmonton: 782,000.
Was that counting fish and squirrels Bill?
And all of Jesse Ventura’s ex-girlfriends.
The urban area of Minneapolis is 2.4 million. Edmonton is 860,000. Metro area is over 3 million in Minneapolis – St. Paul, Edmonton is just over 1 million. These figures more accurately represent the ‘size’ of a city and its market. It’s really misleading to use only the population within a city’s boundaries. By that definition, Edmonton is bigger than Miami…
Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Quebec City are all small markets because while their population in the city proper is large, they have no surrounding populations. Even Buffalo is a larger market than Edmonton, with 1.31 million people, but still small.
You need to look at the whole metropolitan area, which has roughly the same population as Montreal.
Minny is much bigger than Edmonton. It’s also a really cool city with lots of cafes, bars, live music, museums. Also the home of Prince and Bob Dylan.
Edmonton. Well, Edmonton is probably the worst place to live of any NHL city. I’d have to spend a winter in Winnipeg to confirm that.
Worse than Buffalo?
Actually, the population of the Minneapolis / St. Paul metro area is 3.5 million; Edmonton metro area 730,000.
The three important elements of hockey are: forecheck, backcheck and paycheck.
Yeah I’m not understanding this small market talk… Twin Cities could probably support two teams, and the idea has been floated…
Can people stop talking about adding to our young core please. Subban, price, pacioretty, weber, yemelin, desharnais, white. Last year people were screaming for experienced players while the “montreal bulldogs” (as I seen the habs refered to on here repeatedly) were on the ice.
But now we are getting that experience, and people want rookies. Should we just trade all our guys for draft picks last year and ignore setting up a core with cup experience? ive learned something about habs fans reading these threads. We are never pleased with what we have. Guess that’s why we are on hear complaining while PG is in an office making things happen.
“You can’t always get what you want. But if you try sometimes, you just might find you get what you need.” – Mick Jagger
Who wants rookies? Lets get’em!
LOL. Welcome back, Tom.
Hey thanks. I missed this. No sunburns or in-laws here.
I don’t get it either, Hamrlik just left and Habs just signed 32 yr old legit power forward which fans have been dying to get, but he’s not “young” enough and yet we still have a young power forward in Pacioretty.
A “small” sniper Cammy, Gio but a “big” sniper AK
1st “full” season under the big club were, DD, White, Subban, Weber, Eller and Pouliot was his 1st “full” season with the Habs.
Somehow, still some believe we still need to get younger than the roster is now.
“Responding to the media , or playing to the media, or listening to the fans is the quickest way to start losing” – Sam Pollock
If the Habs ever came close to a Cup, maybe people would stop complaining. Going past the 2nd round one flukey time in the past 18 years will not exactly placate this city.
I can’t wait for the season to start already.
Anyone know what all of the Blackhawks/Habs trade talk was about on the weekend? A little birdie told me that Travis Moen might be heading to the Windy City.
The only thing I heard that the bird didn’t tell you was that one of Chicago’s RFA’s was coming the other way. The only RFA’s they have are Frolik, Stalberg, and Campoli.
All just a rumour ATM and likely has no substance, but I guess we’ll wait and see.
That kinda sucks. The only one of those guys that I’d thank you for is Stalberg.
Id prefer Frolik. Mostly cause he doesnt have Leafs Stank on him.
Where you gonna put’em Joey?
I’d be okay with Stalberg or Frolik. We have no need or room for Campoli.
Tim Sassone (the Chicago sports writer) tweeted that he heard rumours that Mtl and Chi were in talks about Chi’s RFAs (Stalberg, Frolik, Campoli) and that the only Mtl name he heard going the other way was Moen.
After that, nothing.
I’ve been idly daydreaming about Frolik in a Habs jersey ever since 😀
Not Eklund, Tim Sassone.
Whispers out of Montreal of #Blackhawks and Canadiens talking trade. Hearing no names other than Moen. One or more of Hawk RFAs in play?
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What a completely insane trade! Havlat’s contract is actually longer than Heatley’s…so it’s not a salary dump.
Heatley can’t be *that* bad in the room, can he? It’s not like Havlat himself comes with a reputation of being an amazing locker room guy. He was known as a sulk, wasn’t he?
And while Havlat is certainly a very good player, I don’t think anyone could reasonably argue that he’s better than Heatley.
I have no idea why SJ made that trade.
If Heatley is even half of the baby he’s made out to be. It isn’t a bad deal.
On the other hand, San Jose did acquire an Allan Walsh client.
Heatley ain’t much in the playoffs. And he’s tended to have issues with coaches. Maybe San Jose is trying to be a little more “we” and a little less “me”.
True. But then why go out and trade him for Havlat? Who I seem to recall having a similar reputation.
Not a salary dump in terms of dollars, but Havlat’s cap hit is 2.5mil lower than Heatley’s. Perhaps this is just part of a larger plan?
Some of you guys should be on that show horders with the incessant whining and crying about all these superstar in the making assets that we should have supposedly hung on to forever. Yes by all means let’s put up without end with there crappy attitudes, weak characters, dumb decisions, locker room antics, distractions or just plane over the hillness.
Pouliot, O’Byrne, Latendresse, Lapierre, D’Agostini… I liked them all at some point, but by the time they departed, I couldn’t care less.
Hmmm…didn’t think the overly self-entitled s*** could be moved without first triggerin’ public controversy. Nice to see him do it the ol’-fashioned way, for a change.
No kidding. Perhaps his goal as an NHL player is to play his way out of a team from each time zone represented in the NHL. He has the East done twice and now the West. Central is on deck.
I’m assumin’ he lays the foundation early. Figure he’s callin’ Yeo a punk by December.
I think he’ll go a different route. Maybe a fan base alienation. Perhaps a television spot supporting anti-fishing legislation. Brett Favre retired. Minneapolis needed a new diva.
WTF is SJ thinking? I know Heatley is on the decline, but Havlat already declined back when he played for the Blackhawks. Was Heatley’s playoff performance really that bad???
Actually, saving 2.5mil on the cap is attractive for SJ depending on what they do with it. And Havlat had like 62 points this season, so maybe not as bad as I initially thought.
If today is Crazy Trade Day, someone go tell PG. He still has almost an hour to find a taker for Spacek, and possibly Gomez.
More important question:
Josh Georges is #26!
Apparently somebody was a problem in the room……everywhere he’s been.
Well yeah him too, but Dany Heatley, wow. He needs a shrink in a hurry.
As thin as the UFA market is the Habs can still be upgraded with their remaining cap space. The possibilities include players that could be acquired via trades or possibly offer sheets.
There’s much wiggle room yet for PG.
No kidding. Is anyone untradeable? Like really? Anyone?
Let’s give good ol Ray Shero a shout and see if he’ll take Plekanec for Crosby or Malkin.
I figured out how PG’s gonna trade Gomez! Scroll down to “JULY 3, 2011 AT 10:14 PM” and tell me what you think :)!!!!
I don’t think they’ll trade Gorges or Beaulieu. And I doubt Montreal would want Hanzal.
I would be more inclined to think Gomez and a high end prospect and/or 1st round pick would get Yandle.
But then again, I don’t think the Habs are after a high end defenseman. If they’re speaking with Phoenix, I’d guess that Yandle and Ekman-Larsson are the guys they’re after, but I don’t even want to guess at what they would give up for either player.
” I don’t even want to guess at what they would give up for either player.”
I did want to guess is all, so named two players I didn’t want to lose and I threw in Hanzal ’cause he’s a centre plus he kinda sucks. This way if I’m disappointed at least it won’t be “surprise disappointment”.
I don’t think it’s impossible that Gorges moves. Maybe the Habs feel like they’ve gotten all out of him that they can. I just don’t find it likely. As for Beaulieu. I highly doubt it. He was drafted specifically to take Markov’s spot in a few years.
If they’re talking to Phoenix. I think it’s for Doan or Turris.
What would you like to see upgraded? Squad looks pretty good.
The only thing I can think of is swapping Gomez for a better #2 centre, but that won’t happen unless Gauthier has been working on the Kenobi-esque Mind Control powers possessed by Sather and Burke.
Still need a fourth-liner or two but it shouldn’t be hard to fill those roles.
I’m now picturing Gauthier calling a GM like Maloney in Phoenix or Tallon in Florida saying: “you don’t need to see tape of Gomez from the last 3 years…..We can go through with this trade…..move along……”
I got away from all of the hulabaloo this weekend and came to the conclusion that Gomez will have a stellar season. And it will be his last good one. One final hurrah of good play. He’s pissed, ashamed, upset, disappointed. He’ll come out like gangbusters and won’t let up. Big year coming for him.
I was thinking the same and then I went back and read the reports from New York after he was traded to Montreal. Basically, all the reporters said the same thing: his intensity was gone, he was smiling and laughing after losses, he looked disengaged on the ice … so I don’t really know how fired up he is gonna be. Seems he’s been going through the motions for quite some time.
Hope you’re right though. And we can’t just salary-dump him for a 7th-rounded because there is no replacement.
I didn’t see him smilin a lot in the second half of the year. Even when he occasionally had a good game. Just the first game of the playoffs in Boston.
So now SJ took a sniff of what Colorado and Nashville were smokin’.
Whoa! Heatley to the Wild for Havlat. Where did that come from??
BWAAH! and twitter is over capacity!
I’m blown away that he waived his NTC to go to a market like Minnesota (bad team, hockey market, etc.)
Team may suck, buy Minny is great hockey market.
Ya exactly, Minnesota might not be much else but it is a great hockey market.
Heatley doesn’t strike me as a guy who’d be all that interested in a hockey market after enginnering his deal to San Jose. My guess is that he was just that desperate to get out of there after this season
I don’t think he still has a NTC …
I’m pretty sure that the deal he signed in Ottawa had a full NTC
It was a full No Movement Clause … but I can’t see him agreeing to move to Minnesota. I’ve heard of cases where NMCs don’t transfer, maybe it’s like that.
He had a NTC but Minnesota wasn’t on the list…
It’s a limited NTC? I remember it being a full one dating back to his blocking a deal to Edmonton, engineering his way to San Jose. Did his clause change over the course of the deal?
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Heatley has a modified no-trade. Had to submit a list of 10 teams he wouldn’t go to before July 1. obviously Minny wasn’t on that list.
RDS is reporting that the Sharks have traded Dany Heatley to the Wild for Martin Havlat.
I’m not crazy about the Cole signing. I mean we’re going to overpay for a UFA no matter what because it’s hard to attract players here with the taxes. But the guy is old. I would have rather Gauthier traded for a young powerforward (Purcell). Anyways, it could be worse!
Call me delusional, but it’d be sweet if we could offer Phoenix a trade for Yandle
Your not crazy about the Cole trade?
WHY NOT???????? He is not old, he is only 32. 7 of the top 10 scorers from last season are above 30.
Size, grit and 26 goals last season. What more could we REASONABLY ask for???
Ya I understand that but I would have rather gotten someone to be part of our young core. I’m just worried that this comes back to bite us later on.
He is “old”? He’ll be just leaving his productive years at the end of the contract, sound about right to me.
You need the right mix of youth and veterans to win.
Isn’t Pacioretty one of the young core? Gotta have the right amount vets and youth to win in the playoffs. Cole has proven he is legit power forward and was a Habs fan growing up much like Darche. You know how Darche season went last season right?
I’m pretty jazzed about the acquisition of Cole, I hope he works out well for the Habs. Something tells me he will be on a line with Gomez.
Some players don’t work out here but suddenly work out elsewhere. What are you going to do? Keep them so nobody else can get them? Try that with a girlfriend that doesn’t love you. Geez, I just hate seeing her happy with someone else!
Here’s hoping the new one brings mutual happiness!
Men at some time are masters of their fates:
The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves …
It’s not the getting rid part. It’s the always getting nothing in return part. Why is it always the other team that gets a Montreal reject that suddenly becomes a big part of their team, and never the other way around? Someone keeps getting swindled and his initials are PG or BG
I think everyone is overlooking Cole’s biggest upside: If memory serves, he grows a hell of a playoff beard. That’s what we’re looking for: a guy who knows what it takes to avoid shaving week after week, month after month.
Somewhere, Paul Mara is crying right now.
That’s a fair point; I did not intend any disrespect towards Mara. If I saw a bearded Mara in an alley (or, really, anywhere else), I’d run like a baby.
Stubbs did a nice article on Hammer.
You what I saw a lot of in those videos? A big player with good speed beating dmen on the outside and have no problems cutting in on the inside and get his nose dirty.
What I don’t understand is why nobody is calling someone out on that Nashville Toronto trade… CLEARLY something is fishy. WHO MAKES THAT TRADE?
Why didn’t they qualify Bergfors??? Why would you give up a potential 50 point player and a possible top two defenseman for an AHLer and 5th or 6th defenseman….????????
No one sees this as suspicious?
This might qualify as one of the MOST one sided trades in history. To save 2 million in cap space???? No way does this trade make any sense. You can’t even simply say he is a bad GM…. NO ONE IS THAT BAD…
FISHY FISHY FISHY
It’s pretty simple: Nashville (a team with a tight budget) cannot afford to continue to pay Lombardi’s salary not knowing if he is going to play this coming season, so they find a team (Toronto) that has money to burn as a trade partner. Therefore, as a thank you gift, Nashville has to throw in Franson in the trade, to thank Toronto for taking Lombardi’s contract off their hands.
Didn’t think about it that way. Well done Gary Bettman. You got yourself a bunch of respectable teams now. Absolutely pathetic if you ask me. Good for Burke, Can’t believe there wasn’t other teams willing to give more.
“possible top two defenseman” Is that Cody Franson?
Yeah. Bit of a stretch, but i wanted to go as far as i could.
“…, but i wanted to go as far as i could.” I think he’s a great pick-up for Toronto. Nashville’s just too stacked on D to use him on the PP is why I think they traded him.
You keep making good points. Nashville is one of the teams I pay little attention to.
OK so its sour grapes. Couldn’t they have gotten fleeced by a western conf team or anyone else but the Leafs…
“You keep making good points” You’ll take that back after I explain how I think PG’s gonna take another run at Vinny Lecavalier.
He’s still young. Gorges was this age when he came over and look how under rated he was
One sided trades? Look at a few that BG/PG has made lately. Just as bad. Are thy part of a conspiracy also?
This coming from the guy who would have given halak whatever he wanted and dumped price last summer. As much as you think PG is incompetent you have already proven time and time again to have absolutely no clue about hockey. Don’t you also realize BG isn’t our g.m. anymore,he isn’t even an assistant. Like i said,you know less about hockey then we all thought you did.
Nice Playstation GMing there, dtoight. Nice work.
For Yandle I’d give up Gorges, Spacek, and a 1st round pick!! Then turn around and sign him for 6 years @ $30M and bring back Sopel on the cheap.
I’d also go after Langenbrunner. He’s a fast guy and natural leader that is a right handed shot.
throw in Gomez
You’d “give up” Spacek?
That’s like saying you’re willing to give up male pattern baldness.
Not sure how credible the fourth period is but it says gauthier is looking to add another dman.
Enuff with the D already Pierre. Havent’ you been paying attention to what we’ve all been saying?
“I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein
Per the article, PG is interested in Yandle. That’s not a depth defenseman, that’s a legitimate top four guy. The price for Yandle would be rather steep. I’m thinking the rights to Gorges + picks. If PG feels like he can’t sign Gorges, then I think it would be a good move depending on which picks he gives up.
Take that trade in a heartbeat, tho…
My guess is that trade would be
I wouldn’t make the “Gogobeau for Yanhanzal” deal. I’d need Lauri Korpikoski too. “Yankorpikanzal”
Watching all his goals against Boston were my favorite….just sayin…
Top 30 remaining UFAs.
Steve, Temmo doesn’t really belong here and other then that…just a whole lot of “bogies”!!
Just wondering why Gorges isn’t signed yet? Is everyone waiting for rodeo season to finish?
Was wondering the exact same thing. It’s making me a bit nervous. Brad Richards will make 12 million next year, what a joke,
“It’s not an obsession, It’s a way of life..”
Was wondering the same thing, making me a bit nervous. Gorges is all heart. Brad Richards will make 12 million next year, what a joke. No player is worth that much money
Was wondering the same thing. Gorges is all heart. Brad Richards will make 12 Million next year, no player is worth that much money
Lots of people on this site hate Brian Burke but he just cleaned Nashville’s clock. It’s not as bad as the Colorado trade, but it’s still an ugly deal.
Begs the question as to which side really won the lockout when it’s all said and done.
Well that trade for Franson is going to cost them $7.8m for a 3rd pairing defenceman….
$800,000 for the last year of Franson’s salary and $7,000,000 for Lombardi (whose hockey career is very much in doubt).
Franson was a spare part in Nashville, and the worst case scenario with Lombardi (healthy enough to play and get paid, but not healthy enough to be any good) was a too big of a risk for the Predators. It was still a good trade for the Leafs though. They have the cash and the cap space to deal with Lombo, and Franson’s better than some of the bums they have on defence.
So I analysed Carolina’s scoring stats, to see which goals saw both Cole and Staal get a point.
Oct 14th: Staal from Cole and Skinner
Oct 29th: Skinner from Staal and Cole
Nov 9th: Cole from Skinner and Staal
Nov 28th: Cole from Staal
Dec 15th: Cole from Skinner and Staal
Dec 18th: Staal from Cole and Skinner
Dec 23rd: Cole from Staal
Jan 3rd: Boychuk from Cole and Staal
Jan 9th: Cole from White and Staal
Jan 15th: Staal from Cole
Jan 26th: Boychuk from Staal and Cole
Jan 26th: Staal from Cole
Feb 12th: Staal from Pitkanen and Cole
Feb 18th: Cole from Jokinen and Staal
Feb 25th: Cole from Staal and Joslin
Mar 5th: Staal from Stillman and Cole
Mar 25th: Cole from Stillman and Staal
Apr 2nd: Cole from Staal and Corvo
Apr 6th: Cole from Staal
So 19 goals saw both Cole and Staal receive points.
Of those 19, 12 featured a pass from Cole to Staal or vice-versa.
Of those 12, 3 did not see Cole or Staal record the goal.
Therefore, out of 59 goals scored by Cole and Staal in 2010-11, only 9 featured a pass directly from one to the other, who then scored.
Now stats are often meaningless, but this is a bit of a wrench in the whole “How will Cole do without Staal?!?!” stuff that I’ve seen.
MADNESS! So you’re saying that Staal and Cole worked well together. That’s unbelievable. It’s like they’ve been teammates for six years or something. Just freaking crazy.
I’ll bet that Cole can’t play with anyone else in the universe and I’ll bet that Staal was the only reason Cole’s been in the NHL for this long.
Turn that frown upside down pal. Cole will contribute even when he isn’t lighting the lamp.
I wasn’t frowning. I’m pointing out that very few Carolina goals actually saw a Staal to Cole (or vice-versa) pass, thus pointing out that Cole doesn’t really need Staal, and will do just fine beside Plekanec.
(Gomez is a whole other story…sadly)
The primary assist is rarely the whole story. And people are justified in saying that Cole enjoys success because of Staal. But they’d also be accurate in saying that Staal enjoys success because of Cole. Your analysis though appreciated doesn’t really do a thing for either argument in my opinion.
I believe that Cole is the kind of player who can play with a high end scoring line and have a huge impact without his scoring being a focus.
Fair enough. As I said, stats are often meaningless.
However, my thinking is simple. If Cole and Staal actually played together all the time, for an entire season, would they not normally assist on each others goals for the most part? Ex: Gretzky and Kurri. I’m sure a massive part of Kurri’s goals had Gretzky assists, and vice-versa.
Obviously Cole and Staal do more than just get points, but it seems like there should be more goals with both their names on the scoresheet – at least if they are as dependant on each other as some seem to think.
Did you even read his post? He was DEBUNKING people’s notions that Cole can’t play without Staal.
You’re right, Cole will be fine with Plekanec. Some commentators – like that fool Garrioch – have mentioned how Cole didn’t do well in Edmonton, implying that he needs Staal. Okay … who centred COle in Edmonton? Andrew Cogliano? Please.
To accentuate the positive again: Habs now have three lines that can score and have size and physical play. Once Gorges is signed the D looks stellar.
Now let’s see if Jacques will let them play some hockey instead of that trap crap.
Staal was his center. Why WOULDN’T they have points on each other’s goals? This makes no sense.
The point is that they didn’t have points on each others goals. They combined to score 59 goals. It would make sense if they had points on something around half those goals, so around 29 goals. But they only had points on 16 of each others goals.
Gomez probably assisted on 2/3rds of Gionta’s goals, while Plekanec probably assisted on most of Cammelleri’s. Kostitsyn’s goals would have been assisted by Plekanec and Eller. Etc.
But Staal had assists on only 10 of Cole’s 25 goals. Cole assisted on only 6 of Staal’s 33 goals. It seems rather low to me.
I figure there are Habs fans everywhere, maybe someone can help. If you’re a musician, imagine someone taking your most prized piece. In this case a 1953 Les Paul… and a lot of other gear.
Help Maurice by forwarding or re-posting elsewhere. Thanks
Go Habs Go
I hope Maurice gets his gear back. That’s just a shame.
ouch! Theives suck! That’s why I have a 100+ pound dog here protecting my guitars and amps.
…heck, You watch the Cole Compilation and You are left with the impression this Guy has won the Rocket Richard Trophy these past several seasons
…hmmm, …have I missed sumptin’ ?
…being a Hab Fan lately, sometimes I feel very bipolar …like I woke up, and through an overnight earthquake, have found My Montreal displaced south of da 49th
Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
It’s not just his production that should have people excited. But rather his style of play. Whether he plays with Gomez & Gionta or Plekanec & Cammalleri, he’s going to make the line better and more productive because of the dirty work he does.
Uh oh, looks like Tom is back from a long weekend somewhere!
Wonder what he thinks about Basu and Dreger Tweeting about how good Konopka would look in a Habs uniform?
Yes I am. I don’t mind Konopka. But the love affair really isn’t justified. Scott Nichol, John Madden, Jarred Smithson and prior to free agent frenzy, Max Talbot, Eric Belanger, Vernon Fiddler and Marty Reasoner are all capable of filling the role. I wouldn’t bend over backwards to get the guy to Montreal. That’s really been my point from day one. He’s a dime a dozen.
This Scott Nichol ?
On December 21, 2006, Nichol made headlines when he blindsided Buffalo Sabres defenceman Jaroslav Spacek with a punch to the head, after he thought Spacek made a dirty hit on him. The act earned Nichol a 9-game suspension.
On December 3, 2007, he was suspended for five games for cross-checking Montreal Canadiens forward Patrice Brisebois in the back of the head in a game December 1. Nichol was declared a repeat offender under the terms of the NHL Collective Bargaining Agreement
Rhetorical right Tom?
“I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein
…I think so too Tom …in a perfect world, wish His name Erik Colas (ol’ world French Hueguenot name), …but hey, different NHL now …unfortunately
…I think He is what the Doctor ordered, despite the wrong citizenship, …and I think He will mentor Kostitsyn as well as Patches
…wonder what other surprises PG has in His veggie bag ?
What’s wrong with his name and citizenship? Ohhhhh yeah, NOTHING! Abso-f*n-lutely NOTHING.
And why is it unfortunate that there’s less french superstars now (I believe that’s what you meant with your “different NHL now…unfortunately” comment)?
Please explain that to me.
He has a great set of wheels for a big man. In 2009 in the oilers skills competition cole set an unoffical league record in the fastest skater event by doing the rexall ice surface in 13.117 seconds. At last years allstar game the best time was 14.061. Its going to be a pleasure to watch him give other teams defence fits for once instead of ours.
I didn’t know that, cool info Showey.
This is why habs fans are awesome, they make 13 minute long epic welcome to montreal vids. I haven’t watched it yet, wonder what the music selection was
My two favorite things are hockey and mystical mysterious islands I dream of living on…
– For Whom the Bell Tolls
– Master of Puppets
1. Showey – Cole is a RW (He plays off-wing).
2. Leafs fleeced Preds – Franson is worth it even if Lombardi never plays. Why can’t PG make moves like this!
3. Need for 4th line Center who has sandpaper, can win faceoffs & fight – KONOPKA!!!
My armchair GM 11/12 Habs –
rough salary guess-timates in brackets = cap hit of 61.694 mill
leaving 2.606 million for adding sandpaper (cap ceiling 64.3 million)
Camm 6 – Pleks 5 – Cole 4.5
MaxPac 1.625 – Gomez 7.357– Gio 5
Darche 0.7 – Desharnais 0.850 – AK46 (off-wing) 3.25
Moen 1.5 – Engqvist 0.900 – White (0.9)
Eller 1.27 (Plug into third line duty when healthy – then White centers Darche & Moen & Desharnais moves to LW on 3rd line)
First call up – Russell?
Markov (lefty) 5.75 – Gorges (lefty) (3)
Gill (lefty) 2.25 – Subban (righty) 0.875
Yemelin (lefty) 0.984 – Spacek (lefty) 3.833
Weber (righty) 0.850 (can also use as RW/PP specialist a la Streit)
Diaz (righty) 0.9
first call up – Nash (lefty)
-0.5 Laraque buyout
Yes, Eller should be our 13th forward and Engqvist should play over him.
And you don’t think Pierre Gauthier’s doing a good job in reality. You can’t even do a good one in fantasy. Ryan Russell as the first call up ahead of Palushaj, Leblanc?
To be fair, he pretty clearly stated that Eller would be the 3rd line centre when he’s healthy. He only left him as the 13th forward because Eller will be injured at the start of the season.
Ryan Russell as the first call up had me laughing, hysterically.
Maybe you should get out more.
Lighten up it’s fun to play GM, it’s not like he’s applying for the position here
Eller is likely going to be injured at the start of the year. Like was mentioned above he clearly stated that Eller would likely be plugged into third line duty when healthy.
Eller starting the season injured is highly speculative. He’s been slated for a 4-6 month recovery with rehab. That puts him into the lineup in October. Season starts in October.
nhl.com has him listed as a left wing. Other sites have him as a lw/rw.
I’ve primarily seen him at right wing. Pretty sure that’s where he fits in with the team too. Unless the plan is to play him with Gomez and Gionta. The top three forward lines are set it looks like. They look pretty good to me.
Thats what i figured. So i’m guessing he lines up on the right side of pleky with cammy on the other side. If only we could get AK to use his size consistently to drive the net like cole and maxpac does.
Won’t happen Showey. I came to terms with it. Not everybody is consistent. Andrei probably never will be either. Still a good player, useful too. I’ve given up, I like him now.
Leafs made that trade because they don’t mind paying the $7,000,000 in salary owed to Lombardi. Granted that money won’t count against the cap – but that’s a LOT of scratch to pick up a 2nd pairing defenceman.
hey call me worried but capt kirk had a great rep with our team and just putting it out ther again about his replacement i mention a couple guys already but none that fits capt kirk maybe someone like ryan walter or craig simpson or maybe carbo back but i cannot see it ! i understand these people already have jobs but maybe a doug gilmour yes laff fans that would be great!capt kirk came in a very similar situation as gilmour is in now.
I too am worried….Jacques Martin has a sorry record with many good young players…..if the dressing room falls apart it may be because Kirk is gone, it seems great to the group and despised by Martin…….Martin and Gauthier act like cheap and tough military men……so Habs management writes-off for almost zero- Lapierre, Pouliot, Sergei K. , d’Agostini, O’Byrne, Hamrlik, Latendresse, Maxwell, Boyd, Dawes, Curtis Sanford etc etc
Watching that 13 minute video tells me cole should play right wing. Love the powermove he makes blowing past the defence on the right side then takes the puck very hard to the net.
What a great mentor for Patches.
Everything the Habs needed.
Size, speed, skill, grit.
Cole was one of the big Hab killers in Montreal in the last couple decades and hopefully it was the rink noise that motivated him in Montreal….the odds are with his talent- speed, size and nose for the net- that this was a great signing and fans will love him…fun to watch! Isn’t that what it should be about?
Wow, that 13 minute Cole compilation has got to show close to three quarters of all of his 184 NHL goals. Well done. I like the way he attacks the net from the outside. No fear. Just what we need.
Expos, please come home.
Is “corunguneee” a word that can be used in a family newspaper?
I’d hate to think that Boone would be in trouble because of it.
any ideas on who will be the assistant coach this year?how bout craig ramsay or mac t or hitch??
It’s probably not my place to comment, because I know little about coaches, but I think I can at least say with certainty that Mac T wouldn’t be a good idea, since we need a motivator.
After watching that longer highlight I’m wondering if the importance of Staal to Cole was overstated or not. I’m not devaluing Staal’s skill, I’d take him over Cole any day. I wonder because a lot of the goals that were in those thirteen minutes came from him taking the puck away on his blue line and beating defencemen with acceleration and power. The other tendency I saw was that he doesn’t give up easily on a play in the offensive end and he forced a lot of turnovers in that area of the ice as well.
I don’t think that’s a result of how good Staal is. I think it’s more that Cole excels in the kind of environment where he is allowed to put pressure on other team’s players (especially defencemen who aren’t the best at handling the puck). In Martin’s passive positional systems I hope that Cole will be able to provide what we need from him.
Certainly, Patches proved that a player in that mould can succeed, I just hope that Cole can be another power forward with speed. It would be wonderful if they could complement both top two lines. The way that he plays on the counter attack is encouraging, as that’s where the Canadiens have manufactured a lot of their offence over the last few years.
All in all a good fit if he can adapt to a less aggressive system.
Does anyone think PG is even shopping Spacek? I know we all would like to, but I’m starting to wonder if this is even on PG’s radar.
I think he is not shopping him. I think PG has a grocery bag of players that he is willing to part with if he’s got his sights set on anybody and I am certain that Spacek is in that bag.
great signing eric cole will be worth gold by playoffs! john leclair was maybe the last power forward and without bringing up the past i do believe we won the cup that year and leclair was a force! now we have pacs in the making plus cole well done pg! we have a plan and pg has the blueprint have faith and some patience we are on to something here!!
glad you mention Leclair….exactly that force in Cole…to bad they stupidly let Leclair go….Max may be another and he is getting even bigger and faster
Hey Mike..I dig your stage set up. What I see is that you guys have a really short lead singer.
And what about those Fender amps? Both the six stringer and the bass player are using the same model amp? What gives?
Are you talking about the landing page for our website? If so, it’s not an accurate pic. The site is under construction and we have a better pic for the main page.
ERIK COLE IS GOD
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