Subban psyched for Habs challenge

So he cut his teeth with the Canadiens during last season’s playoffs. Now popular defenceman P.K. Subban is pumped for the season ahead. Chances are pretty remote he’ll be skating much in Hamilton.

Meanwhile, The Hockey News suggests Canadiens fans get ready to bite their fingernails again this season: the magazine predicts the Habs will finish eighth in the Eastern Conference, in the last playoff spot. Here’s a little background.


  1. derfab says:

    Subban is an awesome young player but still very raw. I don’t think we should expect big power play production fom him just yet because, with this team, he will have to work hard on playing long and well in his own end. He is crafty, exciting and a great skater but has many mistakes to make and, at the present time anyway, at least  4 (Markov,Hamr, Spacek, Gorges) of our veteran D are more solid and poised on the point.

    character is derfab destiny.

  2. observer says:

    Many times they are even worse than they seem.

  3. derfab says:

    Hockey News sounds right. Habs will impress and dazzle the slow, tired or unprepared teams at various junctures but otherwise get too beat up by bigger, tougher opposition to compete for a top spot.

    A number of players, starting with Pouliot, Laps and AK need to get better, tougher and more commited to stay in the lineup because they occupy spots that tough, young scrappy players can effectively fill for less dough.

      character is derfab destiny.

  4. Chuck says:

    – 5’7″ –>  Gionta

    – 4’6″ –>  Little Person

    – 4’0″ –>  Midget

    – 3’6″ –>  Tiny Tot

    – 0’6″ –>  Smurf (also blue)

  5. observer says:

    “obviously real good”? a gross understatement. the most talented young player I have seen come up to the team in many, many years. And one of the best we’ll see in the entire NHL rookie crop this year – if not the best.

  6. RetroMikey says:

    So they predict an 8th place finish this season with a healthy lineup?

    That tells me we are not good as we want our team to be.

    Where will we end up if we get a case of the injury bug then?

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  7. Fire_Laraque says:

    You’re not into metaphorism are you? Smurf is being used for the Habs because there is a trend that we can clearly see in Montreal.  If you don’t like the word smurf, you can use;  Shorty, Midget, little people, height challenged, smallish, minuscule, one without a shadow or any other qualificative you want to describe the Habs’ forwards.  The league average is 6’1 you say? what’s our average height on our top 6?  I’ll tell you,

    It’s 5’10.  3 inches shorter then your average.




  8. RiverviewCanadien says:


    That was awesome, I am voting for that rule change!

  9. Fire_Laraque says:

    I don’t think you get the point.  How many top 6 forwards are over 6’0?  2?  AK and Benoit Pooh.  And both of them are soft.

    Look at all the leaders in this league and i’m sure you will have more then 2 soft 6 footers in their top 6 forwards.

    That, my friend, is having a smurf team.  So that said, getting Karya at 5’11 to replace… one of our top 6 forwards (AK or Benoit Pooh i’m thinking), will only get the team shorter.  And IF Gauthier (I refuse to call him by his first name because he’s a moron) had plans on putting Karya (Assuming we sign him of course) in the bottom 6 forwards, well then… we will have a top 6 forwards not much taller then a smurf AND a bottom 6 forwards, who are supposed to be grinders, with ANOTHER player under 5’11.


    Remember the beating we got against the Flyers during the last playoffs? and the lack of energy our team showed? Here’s a tip for you, size DOES matter.

  10. RiverviewCanadien says:

    4th, no way lets go for division champs (just like 07-08) and finish no worse than 3rd!

  11. thebigguy says:

    For a team that some on this site would allege is poor at development, we’ve sure had a lot of players who have gotten consideration for the Calder. Price, Ryder…

  12. puck face says:

    haha , some of the negative comments on the Subban article thread are ridiculous. he’s obviuosly going to be really good and it just kills habs haters that he’s on our team.

  13. PrimeTime says:

    Players are never as good, or as bad, as fans believe they are.

    “People build teams in certain ways. I’ve always traded for futures – not pasts.” – Sam Pollock

    The reason we are Hab fans

  14. mrhabby says:

    always had a thing for women midgets.

  15. mrhabby says:

    given that our some of our forwards are smallish and thats not going to change.

    the big centres are very hard to find and all other 30 teams are looking to.

    the true enforcer position is going by the way side.

    i say a a stud dman with a nasty side who can skate and move with the puck …first pass.

  16. punkster says:

    Point of order, if you please.

    I would call upon the chairpersons of HI/O to provide us with a clear ruling that establishes, once and for all, the height requirements for being a “smurf” (also known on HI/O as “tiny tots”, “little people” and “midgets”). If the chair is unable to make that call I request a referendum be held on HI/O to collect and tabulate the members’ views and votes on the subject. This would certainly minimize any issues going forward regarding the ability of any player who falls under the “smurf” height minimum.

    I’m sure we would all feel better if we knew exactly where all our players stand (so to speak).


  17. C-Dawg says:

    That was great, thanks for sharing!

  18. CERF says:

    Question of the day, for the hell of it.


    What are habs lacking in YOUR opinion.


    - Top 4 Dman
    - “BIG” center(even tho we got plecks/gomer for the next 5)
    - Enforcer / fighting type
    - a nuke so we can all end the missery of this terrible team

    and random question for the day to solve the office dilema… Tim matain with bacon OR mcmuffin with bacon?

  19. punkster says:

    So at 5′ 11″ and one inch shorter than PK Subban you classify him as a “smurf”? When the league average height is about 2 inches taller at 6′ 1″.

    Just where is your “smurf” line? Anything under 6′ 1″? Under 6″? Does any player under your bar immediately become a “smurf” then no longer eligible to play in the NHL? Or just not for the Habs?

    Just wondering, how tall are you?


  20. habsguy says:

    I’ve read them before but not recently,  as for Bugs,  ummmmm,  nothing against him personally, he just got kinda boring and predictable for me…….I think we all agree on PK though,  he’s going to be a gem.

    If AK and Pouliet can play like they should and with Eller coing in,  this could be a fun year!!

  21. WarHero says:

    hahahaha ;)


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  22. Mark C says:

    On the streets of Orono Maine?

  23. G-Man says:

    These PK/Orr comparisons have popped up on this site many times. You mustn’t like satire if you don’t read Bugs.

    Let PK be PK, and he will be just fine.

  24. habsguy says:

    Umm… not at all, but it’s from Bugs,  and *IF* I read his posts I don’t take them seriously!

  25. SeriousFan09 says:

    Division isn’t that crazy, Ottawa lost their best defensive defencemen and got the guy who let this happen. Buffalo lost two defencemen and it would be hard for Miller to improve on what happened last season and they haven’t added any offensive punch. Toronto is well, Toronto and Boston has to recover from epic failure in the playoffs and prove they’re not a bunch of lead-footed sad sacks.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  26. habsguy says:


  27. WarHero says:

    Umm … did you miss the post below right below this one?


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  28. WarHero says:

    Totally agree with you! I love Souray but he WAS and still IS terrible in his own end, lol


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  29. habsguy says:

    I agree,  I just read back 30 or so posts and found…..ZERO posts with the name Orr in them!!!!!… So whats your point?

  30. SeriousFan09 says:

    Potentially yes, Subban’s already better at D than Souray. Not sure if Subban can top some of Souray’s goals totals but we can be confident that Subban’s goals in a season won’t be offset by a -20 either.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  31. CP31 says:

    What a beauty interview!!! That just made my day.

    G Love – CLASSIC NICKNAME…………………I never really liked Gomer anyways. LOL!!!

    Thursday October 7, 2010 can’t come soon enough!!!

  32. WarHero says:

    I can’t wait to see PK and Markov together. That’s going to be one deadly combination for our PP. Perhaps even better then Markov/Souray or Markov/Streit.


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  33. adam76 says:

    Nice to seem him dedicating his mind, body and spirit to our franchise.  

  34. adam76 says:

    Many people think that they sound smarter when they use big words. The truth of the matter is that smart communicators use words that (a) they understand and (b) their readers are likely to understand.


    The purpose of writing is to communicate. Communication is the process by which meaning is created and exchanged. If the person who reads your writing doesn’t understand what you are trying to say, no communication occurs when he or she reads your writing.

    In order to communicate effectively, you have to use language properly, and you have to use language that people are likely to understand.

    Lately I have noticed many people misusing the word “detrimental” when what they really mean is “instrumental” or “important.” For example, I read a memo that someone wrote requesting permission to attend a meeting. The memo said, “It is detrimental that I go to the meeting next week.”

    Ironically, the misuse of the word implies the exact opposite of what the person meant. Detrimental implies that some negative outcome would be associated with the person’s attendance at the meeting. What the writer meant was “important.”

    A misused big word has the opposite effect of making you sound smart! A big word used correctly, but unnecessarily, has the effect of making you sound pedantic. If you have to go get a dictionary to see what “pedantic” means, I have made my point!

  35. habstrinifan says:

    Thanks gk_!

    Watching the clips from yesterday and now this one all I can say to the rest of the league is “BRING IT ON mAN!”.

    Gonna be a great season. Cam/Gomez/PK… I am gonna add Eller. I think this team will be good and exciting.

    OK!….. I have to add a but.  If JK adapts enough to allow it.

    GO HABS GO! 

  36. observer says:

    I agree with you completely!

  37. G-Man says:

    PK is and will be a fine player, but please knock off the Orr comparisons. Orr’s numbers are lights out. If PK can be 1/2 the player with the stature of Orr/Robinson/Bourque, he will be good enough to be in the top 4 in Montreal. 3/4s as well and he will be the #1 D-man for years to come (barring injury, of course).

    He has to be a puck moving Dman and not always carry the puck; a quick outlet pass is more preferable because no one can skate as fast as the puck can travel. He has to establish a physical presence, too. Watching him improve will be fun to watch as he’s already good enough for any team’s roster.

  38. Clay4bc says:

    …it’s “have BEEN able“, not “have BE able“. I only point that out because you are calling someone “dimwitted”, and impugning his “analytical skills, cognitive processes [and] comprehension”. If you are going to say all that, you’d better have proper grammar – otherwise, people may question your skills in the same way.


    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

    – George Orwell –

  39. W35T5ID3 says:

       Your posts are dumb and down right make you look totally stupid.To clarify: I believe P.K. Subban WILL win the Calder trophy.


       Capeesh???Or are you just too stupid????


    ……..          …………

  40. W35T5ID3 says:

        You took the words right outta my mouth!100%…



    …..Its almost like i’m more excited to watch how pk performs this season as much as the entire habs team.He’s just oozing with superstar potential.I hope he’s a hab for his entire career, because i believe he has a special future.Seriously,he’s the best prospect to come down the pipe for years.We should all be excited.The man is a game changer.

  41. Mr-T says:

    RUDIMENTARY LOGIC…How riveting…Not even close.                                                                                    


    Support Carey Price         “Hypocrisy is not a virtue”                                                                                   

  42. Mr-T says:

    I am confused with your statement as probably you are. Which is it, he will win the Calder or he is going to be a top three finalist. It has nothing to do with respect to his talent and abilities as a hockey player. You my dimwitted friend do not have the analytical skills, cognitive processes or comprehension otherwise you would have be able to ascertain what I was implying. It is not ambiguous.                                                                                    


    Support Carey Price         “Hypocrisy is not a virtue”                                                                                   

  43. Bugs says:

    It’s like Bobby Orr mixed with Jean Pascal, how can you not love this guy?

    Kid’s an absolute gem, total confidence in’m, he’s gonna do great.

    Just better not screw up though.

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory:

  44. weightman25 says:

    got tickets to the season opener to seem em rock the laffs, will love to rub it in there faces, sucks livin in laffs land

  45. SeriousFan09 says:

    Damn, P.K. got jacked this summer, look at his arms. He preparing to dust it up this season?

    Gotta love the familiarity of the team.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  46. gK_HabsFan says:

    Cammy… PK… & G-Love Interview



  47. W35T5ID3 says:


          Hockey withdrawal is harder than trying to quit smoking (and thats hard)




  48. SeriousFan09 says:

    Actually looking at Subban’s status, he works from several notable advantages.

    Taylor Hall, Tyler Seguin and their fellow rookie forwards all considered in the potential Calder race are all coming out of junior and are under 20 for the most part they are still lacking a certain level of physical conditioning that the pros have and are growing into their bodies. P.K. Subban is 21 and for two seasons now, has been conditioning himself for the pro level, first for the AHL last season and now for the NHL. More than a few NHL rookies have ‘hit the wall’ coming out of juniors and playing against men.

    Subban has professional experience, he played in the AHL last season, helped his team win a round in the AHL playoffs and competed in the NHL playoffs last season and aquitted himself very well in both. First Team AHL All-Star and set a new team offensive record for scoring in Hamilton along with a ridiculous +46 differential, than had 9 points in 14 games in the NHL playoffs. Not many defencemen can say they had 9 points in their first 14 playoff games, including the last 5 winners of the Norris Trophy. He is used to competing against men and taking the punishment at that level.

    His mentors, Andrei Markov is a Top-10 NHL defencemen and has a similar style to P.K. Subban as a skating defencemen and can teach him many invaluable lessons. Hal Gill is a solid veteran who is always good for moral support, Josh Gorges is an undrafted man who never relents on being better than he was yesterday and Roman Hamrlik has been credited with being the mentor to a few young defenders in his time as well. Jaroslav Spacek is a man who keeps coming back for more, banged up more than once this season but kept taking it and in the first half of the season took way more than he should have had to keeping the defence alive with Hamrlik while Markov recovered not to mention, he gives props to the flag kids.

    He’s a team player who fits into the Habs atmosphere, a professional, confident player who is likeable, charismatic and is team-first with a strong will to win. A lot of these teams are bringing in the new kid and no one knows how it’ll go in a lot of cases. He’s already shown an ability to work with the Habs roster in the playoffs and has good relationships with his teammates it would seem.

    Calder is in his reach, he’s got advantages over most of the competition.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  49. W35T5ID3 says:

        We need no enforcer,the smurfs can handle themselves!

  50. W35T5ID3 says:

       Please Mr. Gere,let it go.Halak was ridiculously out of his mind for us in the playoffs …we know…we get it.But he’s gone ….move on.We got fair,if not more than equal value for Halak.Eller is gonna be a very solid centreman for the Habs for years to come.And the other kid Schultz is ,in my opinion ,no stiff either.So,relax….or …..go cheer for the St.Louis Blues,aiighhht???


  51. Fire_Laraque says:

    Oh no, I won’t change my handle.  This way, I can make myself believe it’s because of me Laraque got fired hehe.


    As for the analysis, you’re right but don’t have the time to spend.  I’m pretty confident though that my assumption is valide.

  52. W35T5ID3 says:

        The reason why you keep hearing that rumor is because Kariya is a smurf and as you all know,WE LOVE THE SMURFS!

  53. ZepFan2 says:

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  54. Chorske says:

    I love how my cousin, currently on the job in Madagascar, sees this post before I do

    I was NOT stalking. I was just hoping that if I hang around looking pathetic enough, Kish would feed me again. No dice, though- they let me starve despite my many meaningful looks at their picnic basket

  55. W35T5ID3 says:

        Carey Price will be Captain….lol…Captain Carey!!!….


    ………………i’m obviously kidding,so don’t get all anal everyone.

  56. W35T5ID3 says:

       I pity da fool who dont think PK’s gonna win the Calder,cuz he will!He’ll definitely be a top 3 finalist.Anyone who doesnt think so doesn’t know what kind of talent he is and will be.Lets not forget he has 2 WJC gold medals and a year of AHL experience under his belt.Not to mention his playoff run with the habs last year.You sir do not know what talent is.Go away,go now…

  57. W35T5ID3 says:


  58. HardHabits says:

    Your post

  59. matmacat says:

    Maybe you should check your grammar before deterring someone else’s lack of rudimentary logic. Being a post does not make any sense.

  60. christophor says:

    always been one. 

    unless you’re saying: “enforcer? barely even knew her!”

  61. HardHabits says:

    You’re post belies a serious lack of the most rudimentary logic.

    Regardless of how well Subban plays 

    Are you saying the fix is in?

    Maybe you should rethink, if possible, because Subban is a prime Calder Trophy favourite.

  62. Mr-T says:

    Regardless of how well Subban plays, he will not win the Calder. Unfortunately there are too many other factors and circumstances at play here justified or not that need to be taken into consideration, which pose an obstacle for this to come to fruition.                                                                           


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  63. punkster says:

    Well FL, your comment on this subject is one of those I’m talking about. Metaphors? Your use of the words smurf, shorty, midget, little people, etc…are all derogatory and demeaning and intended to belittle certain players on the team. Now I’m sure that’s not your intention is it? You’re a Habs fan and as such you wouldn’t knowingly commit such an act, would you?

    I’m being facetious FL. Don’t take this personally please. We all need to lighten up in the off season and rest up for the real trashing session when the regular season gets underway.


  64. ProHabs says:

    Why do I keep hearing this rumor that the Habs are talking to Paul Kariya and are interested in signing him.

    Mr. Boone, can you confirm or deny this, what is the word on the streets of Maine.

  65. Chuck says:

    Now what sad-sack team would be desperate enough to stoop to such transparent tactics?  ;)

  66. andrewberkshire says:

    Now that’s slightly awkward.

  67. BJT says:

    They’re doing it now, actually. Wait for it… waait for it…. waiiiit… BAM!.. Oh, you missed it? Shame. May as well wait til they announce it later on in the year, then.


    Formerly known as Camel_Larry

  68. punkster says:

    Adam, I appreciate you taking the time to contemplate and respond so thoroughly to my motion. And from various seats of power no less.

    Yours may well be the most logical method of determining who should receive that derogatory title “smurf” (among the many other demeaning labels). I can only hope others here can grasp the concept and dial back the belittling labels attached to our players.

    As for the chairs my preference is #1 by far.


  69. BJT says:

    First question: When did “enforcer” become a noun?


    Formerly known as Camel_Larry

  70. Mr-T says:


  71. punkster says:

    I wasn’t random. He’s been stalking you ever since the Halak trade.


  72. HabFanSince72 says:

    The 90’s are over.

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