Stubbs is all wet (don’t say it) for ALS research

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Challenged by TSN’s John Lu, The Gazette and Hockey Inside/Out’s Dave Stubbs meets the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge at Valois Park Pool in Pointe-Claire.

Stubbs challenges future CFL commissioner Herb Zurkowsky, also known on Twitter as @HerbZurkowsky1; Montreal Canadiens athletic therapists Graham Rynbend and Nick Addey-Jibb, aka @StangmanAT & @NickJibb; and CTV Montreal weather personality Lise McAuley, aka @LmcauleyCTV.

As silly as the ice shower can be, please remember the message behind it: to raise awareness of and raise funds for research into deadly ALS. Visit www.als.ca/icebucketchallenge and make a donation, as much as you can afford. No amount is too small.

And if you’re also taking the challenge, share the link to your videos in your comments below.

Stubbs ALS Ice Bucket Challenge

458 Comments

  1. habsmandes says:

    Wait a minute, you gotta play these guys in the show, I agree they are not as good as Doughtey, Sutter Subban or any of the other big names, but even these guys made mistakes. These guys have showed steady improvement wherever they have played. If you don’t give them the chance to learn, you won’t get the result. Everyone in Mtl is so obsessed with getting he cup now, they won’t let the normal progress of player development happen. Look what happened to Gorges, how long was he a peripheral player before his value became obvious to the team. He was given the chance to learn the game and he thrived. Tinordi, Beaulieu and Pateryn need that same chance or else we will be saying the same thing we have said about McDonough. Give them a chance to get a full year of NHL experience and I say if they don’t break through this year, next year everyone will be saying the Canadiens have the best defence in the NHL, and it won’t be the big 3, it will be the big six.

  2. twilighthours says:

    This past year was fun. Alot of fun (that was for you, Clay). Fun is the reason why I watch hockey, and I got my jollies this year. Yeah, the loss to the Rangers sucked, but it happened so quickly that it didn’t sting too badly.

    I’ve been watching a lot of highlights recently. And one thing that jumps out at me is that Desharnais plays a starring role in so many of these highlights.

    • on2ndthought says:

      shhhh! let’s keep him our little secret. Or are you just trying to rile up the MOAR bigger crowd for a little late summer fun?.

      “a cannonading drive”

    • CJ says:

      He’s a good little player who works his tail off. I also think he’s a great (clutch) shoot out guy. Maybe in a perfect world with two big wingers, but right now, he remains part of the problem and not the solution (this reads a little too literally). If we were to point to an area in which we need an upgrade, I’d say first and foremost it’s the lack of a 1A centre.

      At the end of the day, I’m not trying to convince anyone. Lines in the sand have been drawn. Some feel that DD is a legit number 1 centre. Others, myself included think we have a 2, 2B, 3 and 4 centre, but lack a true number one.

      Time will tell.

    • Clay says:

      I’m touched that you were thinking of me! :)

      __________________________
      ☞ “The deepest sin of the human mind is to believe things without evidence” ~ Aldous Huxley ☜

  3. crane says:

    Markov P.K.
    Beaulieu/Tinordi Gilbert
    Emelin Pateryn/Weaver

    3 young guys and Weaver rotate each playing 40-50 games plus covering injuries it work good,everyone ready for playoffs.

    • Phil C says:

      Assuming they can do it. I don’t like seeing rookies penciled into the lineup before they have earned it. Tinordi hasn’t shown he can play in the NHL yet. Beaulieu looked good at times in the play-offs, looked lost at other times, so he has yet to prove he can be an everyday defensemen. I think the job is Weaver’s until one of the kids take it away.

      • on2ndthought says:

        Tinordi hasn’t looked out of place (he is not a sparkler). Until a move is made, he is the only heavyweight who is ready for an NHL shift. I’m buying what Crane is selling.

        “a cannonading drive”

        • Phil C says:

          He looks fine until he tries to handle the puck with speed or when decisions need to be made quickly, then not so good. There was a place in the lineup for him last year too, but he couldn’t hold it, and I don’t blame the Habs for sending him back down because of this. I see no reason why they would change their approach to handling young talent.

          I think his puck handling is the only blatant hole in his game and I believe it is something you can learn with repetition and game situation exposure (in the AHL), so I think Tinordi will eventually make it, but not before he earns it.

          • CJ says:

            Sorry to clarify, are we talking about Tinordi or Emelin?

            Let’s be honest, Emelin was terrible last year, yet he’s pencilled into our top six. In a perfect world, everyone would report to camp and compete for a spot. No, I don’t live in a fantasy world and I understand that Emelin is on the team, however, IMO, it has as much or more to do with his binding contract (see NTC), then it does his ability on ice. Nobody makes an excuse for Beaulieu or Tiny playing their off side, but it’s lobbed around constantly as an excuse for Emelin.

            Sorry Phil, nothing against you or your post, I’m just itching for hockey….

          • Phil C says:

            Are you suggesting Tinordi is ahead of Emelin in the depth chart? Emelin was bad at times, but at other times he was an intimidating presence on the ice and there are not many defensemen who can get in Lucic’s head.

            I thought you would love a player like Emelin. Big AND mobile is a rare combination. Once he puts it all together, he could be dominant.

            As for Tinordi, he could make it or he could be the next Joe Finley or Jeff Shultz. I think we talk up our 1st rounders and prospects waaaaaay to much around here before they deserve it.

          • CJ says:

            I’m suggesting I don’t have a depth chart. I’ll leave that for the players to determine. We are so quick to project lines and depth charts. Why not wait and see how it unfolds. Maybe Emelin ends up on the 1/2 pairing, or maybe he’s the seventh. I really don’t know. Ditto for Tinordi. What I am saying is I’m in favour of open competition.

            I loved Emelin’s game before he got hurt. At the time of his injury, I thought he was a legit 3/4 guy, along with being a huge physical presence. I’d be lying if I said he didn’t take a step back last year. I said, multiple times throughout the year, that I was going to give him a mulligan last year, understanding how tough it is to come back from such a serious injury. So, going into camp, I don’t have anyone – well, aside from PK, slotted anywhere on a depth chart. Heck, Tinordi could play with PK, or he could end up in Hamilton. Neither outcome would floor me.

            Just my two cents….. Cheers, CJ

  4. kerrgte says:

    Life is so hard for so many people. Canadians should count their blessings.

    For me, if we had stayed in England, the poor north of England. I’d not have had half the chances I was given here. So many I knew in England just didn’t get the chances. I’d have been out of school at 16 and doing some meaningless job I think. No money and certainly no gov’t help in the thatcher times.

    Here I got no parental help but did get osap and struggled to live and get an MBA. i did ok and my sons are both doctors – I can ask nothing more of life. Now I’m retired.

    Today, I was sailing my boat on Georgian Bay. There is no time to think about what might have been. just manage the beast.

    Always lots of time to consider the gifts I had and have. What a great day …

    This season I’m forecasting our team will do very well. I’m expecting MB to again spectacularly deliver a sniper at the critical time.

    cheers
    Aren’t we lucky living here.

    • twilighthours says:

      We are lucky, indeed.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      kerrgte

      Canada has always been a land of opportunity for those that had/have a “Will To Work” or as you mention, a spirit that could endure “Struggles” and most likely sacrifice for the longer term goal of Family First.

      There is concern for the future of this country where a mindset of unwarranted and undeserved Entitlement is finding roots, yet more importantly, a certain political persuasion that appears hell bent on destroying the essence of the Nuclear Family – The key to the well being of any society.
      History never lies.

      Congrats on your stated ” Gifts,” yet they most likely did not come from idleness, laziness, or sense of supreme entitlement.
      You know exactly where they came from….

      • twilighthours says:

        “There is concern for the future of this country… a certain political persuasion that appears hell bent on destroying the essence of the Nuclear Family – The key to the well being of any society.”

        Hey man, can you explain that a bit further?

        • Maritime Ronn says:

          In the context of the total comment, it is easily understood….man.

          • twilighthours says:

            I just don’t want to misunderstand you. So some clarification would be great.

          • Maritime Ronn says:

            You understand exactly, man.

          • twilighthours says:

            Ha ha Ronn, I love it. You try so hard to suppress your social conservatism, but it always pokes through. Just embrace it! Let it fly! We’re OK with it. We’re very accepting here on HIO – it’s one, big happy family. Cheers, dog.

          • Maritime Ronn says:

            Unfortunately, you have no clue who I am or what I believe.
            Ha ha, I wish only the best for you

    • on2ndthought says:

      nicely said.

      “a cannonading drive”

    • BJ says:

      Thanks for sharing and I’m happy things turned out well for you.

  5. Maritime Ronn says:

    P.K.Subban has a great Usian Bolt type goal celebration mimic.
    Or did anyone really believe that his celebration was an original PK move?

    http://blogs.artinfo.com/modernartnotes/files/2012/08/BoltCelebration.jpg

    What would be fun to see, is PK doing this type of goal celebration by a guy from…..the Australian Ice Hockey league – yes, Australian hockey.
    Tiger Williams riding the stick couldn’t hold a candle to this guy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL-I4_LQcwM

  6. Vito says:

    No, they are in Хмельницкий , which has been relatively quiet except a few incidents, but it is still very unsettling as they are doctors… Anyhow, cheers to you as well! I imagine you come this site to get your mind off the topic, I know that I do!

  7. Vito says:

    @ukrainianhab
    yeah, unfortunately, I do. My wife is Ukrainian and her entire family are there.

    • UKRAINIANhab says:

      Донецк?

      I dwell by the polish border (Lviv). Like a different world there, My brother is out in Donetsk fighting with basically a water gun… Not a day goes by that you worry and worry, I am sure your wife feels that as well! All the best. CHeers

  8. Vito says:

    @ukrainianhab
    Happy Independence Day! Hopefully in a year, all this will be a bad memory instead of a sad reality…

    • UKRAINIANhab says:

      Thank you vito! We got the party going here in France! Aha!!! Thought Id step out and head back to the hotel, hoping it calms down at the bar LOL.

      My brother however, is certainly not partying today. He has other duties to do today, if you know where I am going with this…

  9. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Here I am in Paris, walking around at night and of course I was almost robbed. I just shooed them away, growing up in the middle of Kyiv this would happen 5 times a day. Some of these hockey players like Nygren, do not know what it is like to live somewhere other than Canada, or Sweden, or Finland or wherever he is from. Where I grew up you had to scratch and claw to live at one point. The idea that Hamilton is a dangerous city is just nonsense. When I moved to Hamilton to teach European Studies at Mac, I would always tell the students how lucky they actually were to be living in a city like this. I guess some of these hockey players have been spoon fed there entire life.

    Sure, there may be a robbing here and there in Hamilton, but that could occur in Candy land as well.

    MAGNUS NYGREN: TOUGHEN up! You will be begging for Montreal or Hamilton, when you end up in lets say St. louis, or Nashville, or Philadelphia!!!!

    Happy Ukrainian Independence day to any Uke’s on this board

    • CH Marshall says:

      Hamilton is dangerous? LOL. Maybe he has a place in crackville or something.. Otherwise, I’m sure the place he’s renting in Westdale ain’t bad. Actually, I spent some time in Hamilton and thought it was super friendly, and had a relaxed vibe which I enjoyed, particularly in the summer. I think in general though, we’re lucky to live in Canada.

    • twilighthours says:

      I love that you post here. You bring such a great perspective.

      What happened at the catacombs?

  10. scamorza says:

    So a short comment beyond the Hamilton and Nygren threads but a good day for “Montrealers” in gaining publicity. PK on the front cover of the Hockey and News and Genie Bouchard on the front page of the NY Times Magazine

    come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

  11. Ozmodiar says:

    @Paz,

    Jeff Healy was terrific.

    I once spent the night at the same hotel as him. He was nice enough to perform Desperado on the piano in the hotel lobby for myself and a group of friends. I’m not even sure we had to ask. We just chatted, then someone said “hey, there’s a piano”, and his wife/girlfriend took him over to it. Unbelievable.

  12. Paz says:

    When an NHL GM drafts a NCAA eligible player in the first or second round, the player is pressured to change his plans and play Major Junior instead. If that pressure fails, the player is pressured to leave college after year one or year two of his studies. If that doesn’t work either, the player is now swimming upstream, against the organization, and very few actually break through and make the NHL.

    Why do the NHL teams behave this way?

    Because they want to control their prospects, they want to sign the ones they like to entry level deals, and the NHL helps to promote Major Junior hockey and not the NCAA.

    • frontenac1 says:

      Or they go to college for 4yrs and then tell the team to piss off? Like that kid did to the Hawks?

      • Paz says:

        Front, is it a bad idea to finish your college degree?
        It takes 4 years to finish a degree.

        • frontenac1 says:

          No not at all amigo! It is to be encouraged. I agree,but the point I was making is the kids that graduate should still have to earn their ELC in the minors. Maybe the teams should own their rights for 2yrs after graduation?

          • CJ says:

            I agree Front. Watching Hayes and others circumvent the integrity of the draft – yes, I understand that’s strong, is wrong IMO. Otherwise, we risk becoming baseball.

            It would have been a big deal if we had drafted Shultz or Hayes. Lastly, unless I’m missing something I don’t see why anyone wouldn’t want to enter the Hawks organization. Do players like Hayes have a complex, or do they lack the confidence needed to force themselves onto the roster? So, he figures it’s easier to make the Blue shirts? Good for him. Personally, I hope he gets run over. For those familiar with golf, I’d equate this to sandbagging. Not good enough to make the Hawks, so hoping to breakthrough with the Flames, Rangers or Panthers (rumoured finalists). Good for you Kevin, hoser.

          • frontenac1 says:

            Just telling it like is amigo. Looks like you had a great vacation with the family. Say Hola to them from me. Enjoy every minute amigo. They grow up way too fast. Saludos!

          • Paz says:

            CJ, we don’t know why Hayes didn’t sign with the Hawks do we? Maybe I missed the press release on this. If so, please feel free to correct me.

            I assumed that Hayes could not find a spot at the NHL level with the Hawks, and he feels like he’s ready to play there.

            You seem to think that the “integrity of the draft” is impacted here.

            But Hayes is simply playing by the rules that govern the CBA. He has the right, by contract, not to sign with the Hawks, and he’s simply choosing to exercise that right.

            When a player follows the rules, respects the CBA, should we be judging the player so harshly?

            I disagree with your point of view here.

          • CJ says:

            You are technically right Paz. And Lindros also was within his right when he said he wouldn’t play for the ‘Nords. I suppose it’s all fair play so long as it doesn’t land on our doorstep. Happens all the time in baseball. I guess I just don’t want to see it carry over to hockey on a more consistent basis.

            And no, I didn’t see a press release on the underlying issues why he wouldn’t sign in Chicago, arguably one of the best organizations in hockey, but it was widely reported that he wants to play in the NHL and didn’t see an opportunity in Chicago. So it’s off to New York.

            Again, I don’t like it, but that’s just me. For all I know I’m in the minority and everyone else applauds Hayes for bucking the Hawks and heading to Broadway.

          • frontenac1 says:

            Sometimes the Rules are wrong amigo. You wanted to know why teams push NCAA players into the CHL? Because at the end of the 4yrs, they could be standing there with their dicks in their hands and talking to themselves.

          • CH Marshall says:

            I’m already looking forward to that first game vs the Rags. We’ll see what this Hayes kid is all about, and we’ll see Mr. Collider of course.

          • Paz says:

            Actually I was not wondering. I know why the NHL pulls players out if college and I mentioned the reasons in my post below.
            The NHL does not give a crap whether the drafted player graduates, because that does not meet the team’s primary interests; to control the player’s future career.

            What you think is their dck, Front, is actually a university diploma.

          • CH Marshall says:

            That’s a relief Paz, I was always wondering what I’ve been holding all these years ha ha

          • frontenac1 says:

            ??. Talking about the team wasting a 1st round pick and holding their dicks. Not talking about a guy getting a diploma. I think college should be encouraged,but if you can’t make a commitment to the Team that drafted you, don’t go in the draft. Lindros. The whole set up stinks. I’m with CJ. It’s a travesty that should be fixed.

  13. Ian Cobb says:

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  14. UKRAINIANhab says:

    The idea that Hamilton is a bad city is just utter nonsense…

    Mr. Nygren is oblivious to city’s in this world, that are not so nice, in different parts of the world. Hamilton is a first class city, this isn’t Mogadishu.

    Trade this clown!!!! Do it!

    • CJ says:

      Nygren does not have a future in the organization. He will be traded. He’s simply becoming the flavour of the month a la Danny Kristo. In two years people will realize that it was all sizzle, but no steak. Sure, the guy can shoot the puck, but he’s a mess defensively.

      • Paz says:

        Curious what you think is wrong with Danny Kristo’s game?
        Serious question.
        He’s lightning fast. He scores goals.

        • Habfan10912 says:

          Hi Ed! I’m not an expert in judging talent for sure, but I really thought Kristo was going to be a productive Hab for a long time. I’m still kinda bummed he was moved.

          I’ll just add that the young man has a non stop motor as well. A little like Bournival.

        • CJ says:

          He’s 24 years old. If he was as good as advertised, he’d be playing in the NHL. Look at the injuries the Rangers suffered last year to top six players. Yet, despite the need for top end talent, Kristo never cracked the lineup. Not once.

          Look, he was high on my radar once upon a time. As year’s go by though, the player evolves from a prospect to a fringe player, to career minor leaguer. Maybe Kristo makes the Rangers this season, I really couldn’t say for sure. But, he’s not the prospect we once believed him to be.

          Lastly, there are a number of guys who are great skaters and score goals in the AHL or NCAA. There’s a big leap between doing it at those levels versus doing it in the NHL. See Aaron Pelushaj.

          • Paz says:

            Maybe Kristo is 24 because he chose to graduate college.
            He was selected to represent the USA in the World Championships right out of college. He must have impressed someone.
            Maybe he needed a year to learn the pro game. He scored 25 there, in his first season, on a crap team. That was good for 20th overall in the league.
            He might not even make the Rangers out of their camp either.
            But I’m still thinking that he will score once he gets a chance at te NHL level.
            Like Gionta, who broke out at age age 26 as an NHL scorer after spending 4 years in college.
            http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=35504

            We’ll see. I could be wrong of course. I’m wrong at least once every day. Hahaha!

          • frontenac1 says:

            You nailed it amigo. These guys aren’t even Rookies yet. Not one NHL game yet. That’s the Show.Until then, roll me another Sweet Cap Rosie!

          • CJ says:

            Once upon a time I believed Corey Locke could play in the NHL. He scored in the OHL, and again in the AHL. Years contined to pass though and he graduated from prospect to career AHLer. Again, if Kristo doesn’t make it, I’ll be as wrong as anyone because when I first saw him at the WJC, I thought he was a sure thing.

            Here’s the problem, even in an expanded league, there are 30 teams with a limited number of roster spots. Kristo is a top six guy, so he’s fighting with 180 other guys in the world to fill these position. Heck, even if you expand his role to top 9 – let’s go all the way to top 12, there is a total of 360 job openings. Long story short, there are some really good hockey players who won’t ever make it, or enjoy more than a cup of coffee in the league.

      • Ozmodiar says:

        Nygren’s a mess defensively based on what?

        • CJ says:

          Watching him play.

          • Ozmodiar says:

            how many games have you seen him play?

          • CJ says:

            Four if memory serves. Does that qualify? Maybe it’s simply a coincidence, but if memory serves he was on the ice for every goal against when his Swedish team played an exhibition contest against the AHL all stars. Sure, he scored a PP goal, but defenceman who aren’t defensively responsible will always struggle to transition to the next level. Fact is, at this point, the AHL is the next level for Nygren, not the NHL. If he proves he can excel at this level for a full season, then maybe we see him push his career to the next level.

            Taking off for Sweden mid-season doesn’t exactly sit well with me. I don’t believe this has skewed my opinion, which, remains unchanged.

      • Loop_Garoo says:

        In my ranking, even if you give Nygren credit for still learning the defensive side, I would put him at best 4th on the young d depth chart. I don’t think there will be room for Nygren in the next few years, so I think the first offer that comes in (if any do) you trade him. I would personally give him this training camp with the habs just in case he dazzles everyone, but that seems pretty unlikely.

    • Grimmly says:

      Hamilton itself is a $hithole

      • Ian Cobb says:

        Grimmly Joe!! To recognize one, you must live in one my friend!

        • Grimmly says:

          I lived in Windsor, London, and been to Hamilton many times. Trust me, Hamilton is terrible, the reason why people living in “Hamilton” do not “live” In Hamilton, it is in Stoney Creek or Burlington. Hamilton is the Detroit of Ontario.

          • UKRAINIANhab says:

            Detroit of Ontario

            You can’t compare the two…

          • Loop_Garoo says:

            Hamilton is a towering example of beauty, culture and prosperity compared to Windsor. Just left after living there for 3 years.

      • Loop_Garoo says:

        Hamilton has done an incredible job of re-vitalizing itself, and is becoming a centre of art, culture, food, etc. It has a ways to go yet, but it is on the right track for sure.

    • frontenac1 says:

      Agreed amigo! The Steel City is ok by me. Went there on a sales convention back in the 80’s. Got totally sh#t faced. Nice looking gals from what I can remember.I liked the place. Saludos!

    • Chris says:

      It might not be Modagishu, but the area around Copps Coliseum is truly awful and Nygren’s complaints are not that far off. One of my friends went to grad school at McMaster, and while walking home one night in a group of three, they got mugged. One of their colleagues was stabbed a couple of streets over.

      Hamilton has real problems in the downtown.

    • Loop_Garoo says:

      I don’t think he will play for the habs either, and Hamilton is actually transitioning from to a dynamic centre of arts and culture, but give the kid a bit of a break, he was homesick. I am in agreement with CJ here, I think his best possible outcome is a second string PP d-man, who plays 8 or 10 minutes a game as a third pair guy other than that.

  15. Chris says:

    Late to the music discussion, but here are some of my offerings:

    One of my favourite artists to see live is Idaho native Josh Ritter. I love his music, but his live shows are even better. He is funny, charming and just a really great guy (have chatted with him after a couple of shows). If you like the song linked above, definitely check out his live shows.

    We have a 140 year old church here in Guelph (Dublin Street United Church) that has allowed a local promoter to run a concert series over recent years. It is a great venue with fantastic acoustics. Probably the best show I’ve seen there was Toronto singer-songwriter Peter Katz. Brilliant storyteller around his songs. When he sang “Oliver’s Tune”, I actually had goosebumps. One of the most powerful live performances I’ve seen, and it was just his voice and a guitar as he wandered through the crowd while playing. His song “Son” was another standout…just a great atmospheric song in a small venue. Nothing would make me happier than to see Katz break in a big way…he is a wonderful talent, and I love his social conscience.

    Best big show I saw? U2 with Garbage as their opening act, as those are two of my favourite bands. It is impossible to not goosebumps when U2 plays Sunday Bloody Sunday live. Bono brought a local Hamilton kid up on the stage to play with the band…they fully expected the kid to be passable…turns out he was a fantastic guitarist. The crowd went nuts. Bono, the consummate showman, then asked to see if the kid could sing, so he played guitar while the kid sang. Great moment!

    Another great live show was Natalie Merchant at the Molson Amphitheatre. She ended up doing 5 encores because the crowd simply would not let her leave. I’ve never seen that before. 2 is common, and 3 isn’t rare. But 5? It was insane. Perfect venue, perfect weather and a great voice.

    Working at the University of Guelph, we have long had a Thursday noon hour concert series where smaller acts perform. The best ones were seeing Sarah Harmer’s old band Weeping Tile and Melanie Doane back to back in 1996, and Dublin 2 Delhi last year. Most people are familiar with the first 2 artists, but I definitely recommend seeing D2D live. Their recordings don’t do them justice…very fun concerts.

    And my final one…if people get a chance, I highly recommend visiting Guelph one late July to catch the Hillside Festival. Their music programmers are well known for having their ear to the ground for up-and-coming artists. Their biggest coup was having Metric and Arcade Fire back in 2004, just before both bands really broke into the big leagues. But it really has been a who’s who of Canadian music, and they get some great international artists as well.

    • Rugger says:

      I was fortunate, going to UVM in the mid 70’s, we had a lot of great shows – Loggins & Messina, New Riders, Dylan’s Rolling Thunder Review etc. Probably my favorite though was Michael Hurley. Since college, tops would be Taj Mahal from the front row, Dylan and the Dead with Jerry on Pedal Steel and Richard Thompson joining Fairport Convention at the Newport Folk Festival. Best Festival – Grassroots Festival in Ithaca, NY (run by Donna the Buffalo).

      • Paz says:

        My favourite show goes back to my days at Mcgill. Drinking a few cold ones and marvelling at the off the charts talent of the late, great

        Jeff Healey

        At the time he was about 19 yrs old!
        We were sitting in the Gertrude’s Pub at Mcgill with about 50 other students.
        I was blown away.

        • scamorza says:

          Holy crap Gertrude’s pub now that brings back some good memories. And the grad house up the street on McTavish

          come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Peter Katz is great!!

      His best buddy, producer, co-writer Rob Szabo is even better, IMO.

    • Stuck_in_To. says:

      @ Chris

      Katz reminds me of Luka Bloom. If you don’t know him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpr7qj2cDtE

      I could be off, of course, music is such an associative thing.

  16. Habsman93 says:

    Good Morning, a little off topic here but was just wondering if anyone would know of a couple of good places to eat in Charlottetown PEI my cousin (Chris Cummings) is playing there this Friday (Aug 29th) Thanks, much appreciated.

  17. Forum Dog says:

    Reading an earlier post re: Hamilton’s projected lineup, it got me thinking that it would be good to see Pateryn really push hard for that 6th spot – the one Weaver is currently penciled into. If he is able to push Weaver into reserve great, but even if he ends up starting the season in Hamilton, I’d like to see Pateryn make it clear that – at some point this season – he will be ready to assume a regular role.

    • Hobie says:

      That would mean he beats out Tinordi or Beaulieu.

      Subban
      Markov
      Emelin
      Gilbert
      Beaulieu
      Weaver

      Scratch: Tinordi

      Although I think the Habs did have two defencemen in the press box most of the year last year?

      Hobie’s Habs Video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byrgZ90b5Yw&feature=youtu.be

      • Forum Dog says:

        I was thinking more that he beats out Weaver.

        Markov – Subban;
        Emelin – Gilbert;
        Beaulieu/Tinordi – Pateryn;

        Weaver

        One of Tinordi or Beaulieu start the year in Hamilton, and Weaver/Pateryn swap in and out as needed. Bouillion remains unsigned.

        Might be a little too much inexperience on the bottom pairing though. Like I said in the OP, I more just want to see him assert himself and make it clear that Weaver is just a stop-gap who can be pushed aside.

        • Habfan17 says:

          There is enough experience to balance out the defence pairings.
          Pateryn is also not a 20 year old rookie, he is 24. They could put
          Markov, PK
          Beaulieu, Gilbert
          Emelin, Pateryn.
          Weaver.

          That way, there is a decent balance.

          Habfan17

          • Hobie says:

            So then, on a team without much toughness, Tinordi, 6’6″ 230lbs, some NHL experience, 1st round pick, goes back to Hamilton…again?

            Hobie’s Habs Video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byrgZ90b5Yw&feature=youtu.be

          • Habfan17 says:

            @ Hobie Yes, unless he unseats Emeli or Beaulieu. It is not what they need, it is who is ready. Rushing Tinordi for his size if he is not ready would be a mistake. he would benefit more from being a leader for a full season in Hamilton. My opinion. That isn’t to say I would not like to see him in Montreal.

            Habfan17

          • Hobie says:

            If that’s the way you see it you’re entitled to your opinion my friend. I don’t think they’d be rushing Tinordi in the slightest. It doesn’t matter about the past if he was rushed, at the moment Tinordi has more NHL experience than Pateryn and the Habs have clearly shown they prefer Tinordi.

            I like Pateryn more than Weaver and I like him period. However, because of contracts and where certain players were drafted I think Pateryn is 8th on the depth chart.

            Tinordi made a couple givaways at crucial moments of the game last year, some bad puck luck involved, but aside from that he was 6th defenceman material. As good as or better than Bouillon and Murray. Tinordi will probably be even better than last year in a few weeks from now when we see him in action at training camp.

            So with the above said, I don’t see Pateryn beating out Tinordi or Weaver.

            Hobie’s Habs Video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byrgZ90b5Yw&feature=youtu.be

          • CJ says:

            You made a good point Hobie. Tinordi made a few bad giveaways that resulted in goals against. Once during the Blue Jackets game, against the Bruins at home, at against the Coyotes in Phoenix.

            Yet, despite these few mistakes, he somehow became the whipping boy for many, including some folks on this site. Is it a condition of perception versus reality, cause fact is, Emelin had games in which he made more than three turnovers in one period. Funny, everyone remembers Tiny’s mistakes, yet nobody recalls the gaff between Frankie and Gorges behind our net in Toronto against the Leafs (in January). The giveaway resulted in a goal against.

            Again, there are going to be bumps anytime you are willing to stick with youth and inexperience, but the long term results will payoff IMO. If we stick with the aged veterans from day one, so be it. But, we can’t complain come playoff time that our young players aren’t ready.

            Just my two cents….

      • Habfan17 says:

        Since both Tinordi and Beaulieu are lefties, I don’t see that being the case. Beaulieu did play on the right side last season, but only due to the lack of righties. I Actually think having Tinordi back in Hamilton taking a leadership role as being better for him and the Canadiens.

        I agree with Forum Dog, I believe it is Weaver that Pateryn will have to beat out.

        Beaulieu and Tinordi will have to push out Emelin and Drewiskie and both could still make it. given Markov and Emelin will take 2 spots leaving at least one open.

        Habfan17

        • CJ says:

          If Pateryn can’t make the team this season, then it’s likely time to move on. We are getting closer to being in the same position with Tinordi, who will be 23 in February. I get the whole, better to be overripe then underdeveloped thing, but if these guys can’t start to force the organization to play them, then I’d rather include them in a package and address other deficiencies.

          I have no issue with retaining Weaver, but as I said the day we traded for him last year, he should be an insurance policy, not an everyday player. He currently roadblocks our future. That said, if neither Pateryn not Tinordi can supplant 35+, 5’9″ Weaver, then they don’t have a future and are expendable.

          Long story short, this will be a very interesting camp. I just hope that Wardley and Imama are invited to the main camp and get a chance against the Bruins on September 23….

        • Hobie says:

          Ya I don’t see Tinordi benefiting any further from a leadership role in Hamilton. Been there and done that.

          Tinordi will have improved slightly from his stint last year and won’t cough up the puck. That will be enough to have him in Montreal for the season. He’s already played some playoff games and regular season games so I believe the Habs have him in front of Pateryn. I think it would take an extraordinary turn of events to have Pateryn make the team over Tinordi. IMO.

          Hobie’s Habs Video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byrgZ90b5Yw&feature=youtu.be

  18. Habfan10912 says:

    Good morning everyone. As I wait for Grandma Smurfs daily countdown to the season I figured I’d give my two cents on Nygren’s comments specifically to his Hamilton bash.

    Look, no matter what culture you’re from, it’s not the thing to do bashing someone else’s home. We all have different taste and where we are from we hold dear to our hearts regardless of its shortcomings.

    I’ve been fortunate to visit Hamilton on a couple occasions. In my brief experience I found the City to be inhabited by the most kind, unassuming, down to earth people I’ve met anywhere. Bad areas? High employment? What City doesn’t.

    I know if I was a Hamilton resident I’d be very displeased with his comments. Perhaps we’ll find out it was a language interpretation thing or some other excuse that will soften his comment. If not, this young man certainly fails my common sense test.

    Common sense would have most of us keep those thoughts to ourselves. At the very least he showed a clear lack of judgement in my opinion, a clear lack of judging a city by ignoring it’s most important resources. It’s people.

  19. Lafleurguy says:

    Some bear facts for Dunboyne Mike (and other fans of Canadian folklore).

  20. Ian Cobb says:

    Good morning boys and girls!
    Summer is nearly done and the best 2 weather months are about to begin! So I am about to head out alone and just follow the road east. No set plans for 2 or 3 weeks, except for stops in Brossard’s parking lot for a few days, pig out on some lobster in the Maritime’s and drop in to visit along the way to those that want a visitor. Not sure if I should pull my little camper or motel it?

  21. chesterfiled says:

    This is not the year IMO. Thought it was, but was never too religious. Would love to be wrong, it is all pending on Chucky’s game because I thinks he is the real deal.

  22. ClutchNGrab says:

    I don’t understand why some link pk’s signing with gorges departure and not the trade that failed with the Leafs.

  23. Clay says:

    The best thing about the P.K. Subban salary is that Scott Gomez is no longer the highest paid Habs player in the team’s history.

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    ☞ “The deepest sin of the human mind is to believe things without evidence” ~ Aldous Huxley ☜

  24. EL_PRESEDENTE says:

    This viral marketing thing sure seems to raise awareness. Even if very few donate its still front page news. I’ve been juvenile diabetic all my life… maybe the
    Punch Chara in the face for diabetes challenge???

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    If you are crazy, you can be discharged from the army. But you have to apply for the discharge, and applying demonstrates that you are not crazy. As a result, you will not be discharged.

    • chesterfiled says:

      Cheers dude! Stop taking a sauna and donate some $ instead- is what read from your post. Was in Toronto recently… is it possible that racoons out number your kind in that town? Just found out racoons are not rodents but their own thing

  25. Adidess says:

    I find this emerging debate over potential resentment in the locker room against Subban – as a result of the contract he just signed – quite interesting.

    Aren’t players used to dealing with the fact that everyone has a different salary?

    Don’t players know salaries result from negotiations between agents and team management based on joint assessment of performance and worth by the two parties?

    Doesn’t every professional team, or every workplace for that matter, have somebody who is the highest paid? I believe the team had a highest paid player last year and every year before that. Are they normally resentful toward that player? Did anything like that happen to Price, Stamkos, Doughty, Ovechkin, Tyler Myers when they signed their respective contracts?

    Every time somebody gets paid, there’s less money left for everybody else, especially in a salary-cap structure. There’s nothing new here in that sense. The only way this is a debate is if one believes Subban’s salary is so out of whack with norms in the NHL that even players themselves are shocked or up in arms over it. As opposed to being happy for their buddies as they tend to be or at least to show they are…

    I remember when Gomez was by far the highest paid player on the team and going through a catastrophic 2-year slump. Every teammate had his back, they encouraged him, they defended him, they protected him.

    We’ll have to see, I guess, but I thought this fraternity had a tendency to rally around teammates whenever they feel they’re too heavily scrutinized/criticized in relation to their salaries.

    • piper says:

      The sooner they realize they are all over paid the better. There are surgeons saving peoples lives everyday that are paid less than they are.

      • Adidess says:

        Yeah, but this is an old debate right? Hockey teams aren’t drawing from public funds to pay player salaries. We’re talking about a self-generating business here (although there sometimes are government subsidies involved in the venture at some level). You pay for attending games, watching on TV, and acquiring merchandise and that’s the money being used. Surgeons do a heck of a job, but those playing one on TV makes more money precisely because you and/or your wife can’t get enough of watching Private Practice, Grey’s Anatomy, etc. on the tubes. And btw surgeons get paid handsomely, in comparison with say first-responders.

        The other key thing is the posters I’m referring to are talking about teammates being resentful, not necessarily those of us not making millions who are ponying up to make them rich. For what it’s worth…

      • Loop_Garoo says:

        Not relevant what surgeons make or if hockey players are important. Our current economic system pays market value, what you are worth economically to the person paying you, that is all. How much money you have says nothing about your import.

    • Loop_Garoo says:

      I don’t for one moment buy the argument that players resent each other for salary differences, or that effects the on ice product in any way. I am sure Patches wishes he”d signed a 2 year deal, is he angry at Subban because he signed it? Of course not.

    • formerly known as the hc says:

      Outside of forums like this, there is no emerging debate.

      -The beatings will continue until morale improves-

    • chesterfiled says:

      Yeah it is bs. Dude is a great hockey player, wants to play in ch uni for this town, has great communication skills, the only guy who publicly is donating $ to ALS while contributing the best of these montage stunts for a good cause among many… enough already- les cles sont a toi capitaine

  26. Habitant in Surrey says:

    I’ve been lookin’ for a ‘theme song’ for The Rogers NHL Habs Petition that reflects My musical taste. I think this is it !

    ZZ Top & John Lee Hooker –Boom Boom Boom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZWQN0n8x00

    ____________________________________________________

    Please read and add Your signature to The Rogers NHL Habs Petition; http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/no-habs-blackout-rds

    Thank You

  27. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    RE: Habs are talking with Boullion. They were also “talking” with Gionta…nothing is going to happen. They have Markov, Emelin, Beaulieu, Tinordi and Drewiskie on the left side. Boullion showed he can’t play the right side. Enough already…

    • Timo says:

      I can’t understand this total unwillingness to let go of suck. What is this incredible obsession Habs have with the useless midgets?

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        Have faith. Things are changing: Gionta and Briere are gone. The smallest guy on the bottom six next season will be Prust and he is the fighter.

      • chesterfiled says:

        Am non-plused. WTF ownership group ran a franchise into the $minus column in the 90’s and no offense to the Molsons, it is not rocket scientists to put back the CH in the plus column the last few years. Am short guy, every time I is in Alberta, I is very short. I love watching, rarely the last couple of years, the old bull taking down a kid a foot taller than he. That guy has to retire a hab

    • Nostradumba$$ says:

      Maybe it’s like this.

      MB “So nobody else has expressed any interest in your services?”
      FB “No not yet, but there’s still hope.”
      MB “Well if you don’t sign somewhere else perhaps you’d be interested in mentoring some youth in Hamilton?”
      FB “Let me think about that.”

    • formerly known as the hc says:

      I see this in the French Language press, but there is nothing mentioned about this with any legitimate English Language outlet. Although I suppose anything is possible, I think this is nothing more than space and time filler.

      -The beatings will continue until morale improves-

      • chesterfiled says:

        True. What is the big deal anyways- he takes some games from the juniors. That guy is never counted on to win a game, he clutched on ottawa , against the rangers when no other could. Is my memory bad? Watched him score twice on Price, but team looked worse for him… who can’t like that guy. Want him on my team any day

  28. Habitant in Surrey says:

    Former Hamilton Bulldogs’ head coaches:

    Lorne Molleken 1996–98
    Walt Kyle 1998–2000
    Claude Julien 2000–03
    Geoff Ward 2003
    Doug Jarvis 2003–05
    Don Lever 2005–2009
    Ron Wilson 2009–June 2009
    Guy Boucher 2009–2010
    Randy Cunneyworth 2010–2011
    Clement Jodoin 2011–2012
    Sylvain Lefebvre 2012–present

    I have the feeling Sylvain Lefebvre is not in the quality of developmental coaches as Claude Julien, Don Lever, Doug Jarvis, Guy Boucher or even a Cunneyworth or Jodoin.

    I guess We will find-out how Lefebvre does with the fresh blood in this season’s roster. But, until proven otherwise, neither Lefebvre nor Martin Lapointe are giving Me positive vibes.

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    Read and sign at; http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/no-habs-blackout-rds

  29. Un Canadien errant says:

    Some thoughts:

    1) I know it’s a shtick, and just a cheap shot at an easy HIO target, but the derisive suggestion of David Desharnais as a captain for the Canadiens, and the worried replies that Canadiens management, a franco cabal only interested in pursuing nationalist aims, just might go that way, that ‘it could happen’, is pretty low material even in the dog days of August.

    David doesn’t have the necessary CV to be a captain, he’s definitely in the ‘not ready’ pile, and might never be the type to be captain. He’s so humble and retiring (watch him squirm in the 24 CH episodes when Colby Armstrong is talking him up as a star in Chicoutimi, or the one when we delve into his background and it’s revealed he used to do folk dancing) that it’s easy to see he’s not a talker or a take-charge guy, he’s more Mark Napier or Pierre Mondou than Doug Risebrough or Mario Tremblay.

    2) I’m also surprised that the Chargers have more than a couple fans on HIO. Maybe we’re roughly the same age, and grew up watching the Air Coryell teams, exciting offensive squads that offered spectacular, high-scoring football when on TV. I know what cinched it for me was watching Kellen Winslow during the ‘Epic in Miami’ blocking chipshot field goals, preventing what seemed a certain loss and dragging the Chargers to victory.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_in_Miami

    3) NFL football would definitely benefit from adopting CFL rules. I prefer the four-down variety since it allows more sustained drives, but anything else, the CFL rules favour much more exciting football. The single point which incentivizes returns, the five-yard rule rather than the boring fair-catch, the freedom for offensive players to move behind the line of scrimmage rather than the mind-numbing procedural penalties in the NFL, it’s no contest. My enjoyment of NFL football has been greatly aided by the invention of the PVR, so I can skip over a lot of nonsense.

    4) Based on the Bob McKenzie tweet posted by burli, it does seem that Devin Setoguchi wasn’t wanted on our team at any price. 700 grand would have been a very acceptable risk, if he shows up ready and hustles and works hard, he stays in the NHL. If he doesn’t, he goes on waivers and gets picked up by another team or lands in the AHL, with no further cap hit to our team.

    Maybe Marc Bergevin means it when he talks about character and says the young ones will be given a shot to earn a spot…

    5) A general point about Michel Therrien, and the HIO opinion that he relies overly on veterans and staples rookies to the bench when they make a mistake. While we can find instances of this, I think it becomes overstated. He likes his veterans, but sat Travis Moen and Francis Bouillon and Douglas Murray during the playoffs. He’s reluctant to use young players, except Brendan Gallagher and Alex Galchenyuk and Michaël Bournival, the kids who are burning it up out there.

    With a five-year extension in his pocket, and Marc Bergevin setting the tone by letting a few veterans go and saying it’s time for the young players to take over, it will be interesting to see if Michel Therrien runs with it and gives the rookies and young ones a big part of the load to shoulder.

    6) Magnus Nygren is not a “Yes sir!” good Canadian kid that Don Cherry loves, he’s a grown man who has options other than to knuckle under the Entry Level Contract offered by the NHL team which drafted him. It stings for me that he’s not more excited to be a Canadien, like Jiri Sekac is, but it’s hard for me to find fault with players like him and Kevin Hayes who choose to not play the rigged game Gary Bettman concocted with his three lockouts.

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2014/06/magnus-nygren-wants-to-play-for.html

    About his impressions of Hamilton, I’ve experienced a European’s first contact with squalor. I went on a road trip with a group of snowboard instructors, and our itinerary took us through Vancouver. We had to make some stops there before getting started, and made a point to walk through the Downtown Eastside with Kaisa, a very nice girl from Finland. We’d talked to her about the United States and poverty, she was antsy about that and guns, and we thought we’d get a kick by giving her a first-hand look at what a ghetto looked like. She was definitely taken aback, didn’t feel safe even though we were in a group, and the residents didn’t pay us any attention, they had other business in mind.

    But throughout the trip, that is one thing she wanted to discuss over and over again, along with the American practice of flying the flag in front of every business, home, farm, etc. She kept asking us where were the families, why did the poor people sleep on the street and not go home to mom and dad. Why did the social workers with their massive budgets not intervene? Why didn’t the government tear down the derelict hotels and build proper housing? Why didn’t the police just go there and arrest the pushers since they knew where they were? It all came from a a good place, a little naive perhaps, but her bafflement demonstrated how Europeans might not deal with squalor on a daily basis, or accept it easily.

    7) The best Super Bowl or Kickoff Game music act or performance crown goes to a Britney Spears at the height of her powers. Some of the best television ever, once the ‘Mute’ function was employed.

    8) Back to Magnus Nygren, I didn’t like the fact that he wasn’t enthused with the coaching he received in Hamilton and the system employed there. Again though, the Canadiens organization has backed Sylvain Lefebvre completely on this issue. Martin Lapointe could not have been more clear in his words, and with his facial expressions, that the players in Hamilton are well treated and coached, and get everything they need to succeed.

    Asked about Magnus Nygren leaving Hamilton to go back to Sweden, and what the Canadiens will do to help European players integrate better there:

    “One thing I want to assure you is that every player who goes to Hamilton is treated in an incredible, impeccable manner. Players who decide to go back to Europe, that’s their choice, we can’t prevent them from leaving.

    “Those who go to Hamilton, I know one thing: we spend time with them, and the Hamilton coaches do excellent work. I’m there a week and a half per month, I see it, I feel it. To say that players aren’t well supported, and that Europeans aren’t taken care of, I can’t say that. It’s their personal choice to go to Europe, they get a better offer, we can’t control that.”

    The reporter insists, clarifying that his question wasn’t related to coaching, but to the conditions faced by players in Hamilton:

    (Martin Lapointe scoffs) “The coaches and I stay just outside of Hamilton. We’re good, we eat well every night, there’s no problem there. Hamilton isn’t better or worse than Montréal.” (He rolls his eyes and chuckles, to indicate that he thinks any concern in that regard has no merit)

    from: http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2014/07/canadiens-player-development-director.html

    So while I’m concerned, all the Sylvain Lefebvre detractors are getting to me, I have to trust the management team when they fully support the coaching staff of the Bulldogs. Marc Bergevin is all in, so I guess I am too.

    9) Brandon Prust can toss and turn in bed all he wants, if I was in his, uh, shoes, hockey wouldn’t be the first thing on my mind. #MariePiersoclose.

    10) Nikolas Koberstein committing to the Sioux Falls Stampede of the USHL puts an end to the WHL rumours for now I guess. The plan as described after the draft was that he’d play another Junior A season in Alberta before going to Alaska-Fairbanks in the NCAA. This may ultimately be the destination, but he’s not locked in, he could always change his mind. Some of the posters on other boards worries that it isn’t the best college to go to to develop your game, the travel and quality of competition leave something to be desired. It appeared that he was planning to go there since other players from his neck of the woods who played for the Olds Grizzlys had gone on there, there is a ‘pipeline’ established between these two teams, the coaches have a rapport.

    Now that he’s been drafted, he may have greater aspirations than to just get a four-year scholarship locked up, and may choose to go another direction, to another school in the NCAA, or to the CHL. The USHL allows him to keep both options open, and a bigger stage to display his talent and attract scholarship offers from other schools.

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    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

    • CJ says:

      I don’t believe there’s any chance DD becomes captain. Not even 0.001%. There’s a significantly better chance that he’s shipped out of town than becoming the next captain of the Montreal Canadians.

      Secondly, I absolutely believe the organization will continue to turn the team over to the younger players. Sure, there’s going to be some bumps along the way, but we will be significantly better if we stay this course come playoff time. Look at Jake Muzzin in LA. He was paired with Doughty, the team stuck with him and he repaid their trust with a very steady playoffs. The exact same can be said of Toffoli and Pearson. The Kings weren’t afraid of moving forward with youth and neither should we be. If Tinordi, Beaulieau and Sekac make the team, then give them the ice and let them roll.

      • Loop_Garoo says:

        I don’t think he will be captain at all either. The only possibility is if the players voted, I think he is highly regarded by his teamates, still think it unlikely though.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      RE the Chargers. I started watching football at the start of the 80’s. The uniforms, Air Coryell offense and Kellen Winslow sealed it for me. The 81 playoff game in Miami was unbelievable. I will never forget the photo of a completely exhausted Winslow being helped of the field by two teammates. Too bad his knees were destroyed by opponents (especially the #@$@% Raiders).

      As for Nygren, who cares what he thinks. He is just a bigger Diaz. Trade him to and be done with it. Offensive D-men that can’t play defense are an easy commodity to find in the NHL.

    • Adidess says:

      Timo mentioned DD in the same way Timo brings up anything. He was probably less than 0,000001% serious. Punkster responded totally in jest too I find, so nobody was truly suggesting DD has any chance of becoming Captain, or that he could/should be in consideration for the role.

      The Bouillon “era” has ended, we need to move on. We would have to be absolutely devastated by injuries on D to be in position where we’d need Bouillon. And even then, I’d say next guy down in Hamilton please, until there’s no D prospect left. Chances are if Bouillon becomes the answer, we’re not winning the Stanley Cup anyway.

    • punkster says:

      Some responses:
      1) What?

      Release the Subbang!!!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Okay you covered everything I think!

      CHeers Normand.

    • chesterfiled says:

      I think Marcov will accept captain ‘c’. WTF, he is permanent Hab

  30. Habitant in Surrey says:

    Okay, Okay !!! …I relent !

    I’m gonna give an opinion on the daffiness of Marc bringing back Bouillion for another season.

    My comment ?; …GOOD GRIEF CHARLEY BROWN !!! :(

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I keep thinking all it means is that Marc Bergevin has told Francis Bouillon it won’t won’t happen, so to speak, that if there are early injuries he could get a call. And I worry that there is smoke…

      Let’s take the step back and play Nathan and Jarred. That’s my novel suggestion.

      • CJ says:

        I just thought the rumours were meant to give guys like me the gears. The thought of Frankie coming back does not sit well with me. I was surprised today though to hear the free agent I spoke with inform me that he has not received a single offer.

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        Assistant coach yes. One of Our D this season ?, I’ll believe it when I see it.

        • scamorza says:

          Thinking along the same line…perhaps other opps within the organization, j’espere!

          come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

  31. twilighthours says:

    Really late on the music recommendations but this kid right here is from my hometown and his first single rips. It’s incredible:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKl1PsIdrC4

    • Stuck_in_To. says:

      I came on that late too but read with interest. Your offering has lots of good stuff going on too. I would have recommended this:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YIeU5MyZS0

      Been around a while but a friend recently turned me on to him.

    • scamorza says:

      Hey twi hope all is well. Thanks for this tip always and good to see that you and I are in synch on early U2. BTW, hope you have had some good runs after the HIO excitement if a few days ago.
      OK so no hockey bizz question? BUt the U2 example had me thinking, and in keeping with the music thread, which bands did u see before they became big.
      Me – U2 at Montreal Spectrum with Boy album and REM same place they were actually backing up a Brit ska band, The English beat. Murmur just came out. This was probably my all time concert
      Ok back to the BBQ

      come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

      • twilighthours says:

        Running plenty these days, man. I did my 800m intervals on Wednesday. Those hurt. Got out to my favourite trail for a 2 hr run today. Life is good.

        Not sure I’ve seen anyone before they got big, to be honest. I’ve seen lots of big acts, lots of small ones, but none pre-bigness. Does Danny Michel count? No? I saw Great Big Sea open for Blue Rodeo… that might count.

        Best small show I’ve ever seen was Chris Brown and Kate Fenner at the Rivoli. Best big show was Radiohead in Skydome and in Montreal.

        I would have loved to see U2 pre-big. I’d love to see them now, even. They still make a stadium show intimate, I think.

        My biggest wish would be to see the Hip between Road Apples and Fully Completely. That was when Gord was still a maniac and they were still playing small venues. Man that would have been great.

        • scamorza says:

          @ twi. Wow 2 hours on a neat trail good for you. Haven’t run since Wednesday and getting antsy. Small venues are great for just about any band . Sorry man no way to go back in time. And thanks for bringing up Blue Rodeo another solid. Canadian band that just never get enough credit IMHO

          come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

        • Chris says:

          I saw Chris Brown and Kate Fenner at a house party here in Guelph. They were in the living room with about 40-50 people. Great show, really nice people!

          Agreed about the Tragically Hip.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Saw this on CBC this morning, Great Lake Swimmers, can’t get their song out of my head.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_l77r9xK-Y#t=00m55s

  32. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Just heard the Habs have banned DD from taking the ALS challenge because he might drown…

  33. CJ says:

    Good evening friends.

    Growing up in a very small farming community in eastern Ontario, we got our meat from the local butcher. In fact, if you can believe it, we actually rented an ice locker at the butcher shop. Once or twice a week my mother, with my brother and I under her arm or on a leash, would get to go into the cooler and open our locker. We’d pick out steak, hamburger, whatever we might need for dinner. What I also found interesting is that we never paid. Once a month, we’d receive a bill and my father would go out and settle our account.

    It was in the spirit of my youth and previous experience that I decided to seek out a butcher today, instead of buying our meat at the grocery store. Sure, it was a bit more running around, but having just finished dinner, I can tell you it was worth it. Following our purchase, I marinated the t-bones in olive oil and salt and pepper and let the steaks sit on the counter all day. I had them on the grill, on low heat, for about 10 minutes. Absolutely wonderful result….

    So, dinner aside, I also got a round of golf in today. I played in front of a group of Ottawa Senators at our club. I asked the guys to go easy on PK this year, and received a wry smile in reply. Actually, truth be told, the guys I bump into are really nice. I also chatted with a free agent and asked if there were a few offers on the table. He informed me that there was not a single one. From what I’m hearing through the grapevine, either teams aren’t offering at all, are offering two way deals, or are willing to wait and see how camps unfold. This is the reality of a salary cap world. Not to inundate you with a personal opinion, but it’s not unlike organized labour unions. The people at the top (seniority) are protected and get paid (pro athletes) while the fringe players/labourers short on seniority face a far different fate. As team’s payrolls become unbalanced, with 3-5 guys making up 40-50% of the total payroll someone else needs to assume the “squeeze.” Back to the subject of the Senators, a quick review of capgeek confirms that they are poised to become the lowest payroll in the league. The fact that we need to subsidize this team is pathetic. Now that’s a squeeze!

    Ok, so now I’m really all over the map, but please bear with me….

    Yesterday I indicated that Weaver would not be part of my top six. Again, this is not meant to slight Weaver, who I thought had a very good postseason, especially considering his lack of NHL postseason experience. Yes, it’s probably true that Weaver gives us the best chance to win in October. But, if it’s just the same to everyone else, I’m mostly interested in winning in May/June. To this end, we need to play Tinordi and Beaulieau and let them grow. They both have ceilings much higher than Weaver. IMO, if we are patient and stick with these guys, we will be much better off down the road. Again, I agree that Weaver is more polished and likely gives us the better chance to win now, but again, if it’s progress we desire, we have to be prepared for some short term volatility.

    In closing, are we going to get this ALS ice bucket thing going or what?…..

    CJ

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      During P.K.’s negotiations this was an aspect that bothered Me most. All is fine for P.K. to milk the Canadiens for all He is worth, but the ‘trickle-down’ means Josh ain’t coming back, and/or the Guys at the fringes will be cut loose or low-balled.

      It would be interesting to know how this affects the fringe-Players’ feelings towards Guys like P.K. on Our Team that are in-effect helping the Canadiens pay P.K.’s extravagant money ?

      ________________________________________________________

      Read and sign at; http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/no-habs-blackout-rds

      • CJ says:

        Based on what I heard the boys say today, he (PK) will be clearly in everyone’s sights. You can bet guys are going to lean on him all season.

        I’m in the same camp HIS. PK got the steak, the potatoes, the asparagus, appetizer, dessert, wine, etc. It might not be a big deal if/when the cap rises to $85 million dollars, but for the next 2-3 years (possibly more), the deal will impede the organization’s ability to add other star players. Additionally, to your point, others within the organization will need to make concessions. How this translates in the room remains to be seen. But, there’s absolutely no doubt in my mind that PK came in at the very, very top of Bergevin’s purse.

        • Adidess says:

          On PK being a target, I don’t know if that will be a CHANGE from previous seasons. I particularly feel PK was in everyone’s sights during the last playoffs and was our best player (along with Price).

          Subban was definitely in every Bruins player’s sights during that series (water bottle and all), and I like how that series turned out for the Habs.

          • CJ says:

            That’s a very fair point. I equate it to being similar to Phaneuf in Toronto. It just seemed that the venom towards the Leafs captain grew exponentially. He always played under a microscope, the contract just turned the heat up another few degrees.

            That said, PK seems to be at his best on the biggest stages. Maybe this will help keep him focused all season. It seemed that once he was announced as a roster player for team Canada, his game went on vacation for more than a month. Truthfully, it’s the worst hockey, over an extended period of time, that I’ve seen him play as a professional.

            Of course, the contract he signed recognizes his big game potential and overlooks a slump in January.

  34. Habitant in Surrey says:

    It has has been a few years since watching a game at the Forum …oops, Bell Centre :)

    Can somebody explain difference between a ‘Regular’ game ticket and an ‘Optimum’ ?

    What are the extra perks ?

    Thanks.

    _______________________________________________________
    Read and sign The Rogers NHL Habs Petition at; http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/no-habs-blackout-rds

    • Hobie says:

      Premium, Optimum or whatever you want to call it, just means the price is almost double. Usually reserved for the nights or teams that are in high demand. No extra perks except getting ripped off even more.

      Hobie’s Habs Video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byrgZ90b5Yw&feature=youtu.be

    • CJ says:

      Sure, you get charged almost twice the price. For what it’s worth, the game against the Capitals in which we got skunked (it was a Saturday night) was an optimum game. Our seats increased almost $20 bucks a seat for regular games. The number of optimum games continues to grow, and costs are on the rise. If not for the partnership I’m in, I’d no longer carry the cost myself. When I became a season ticket holder in 2004-2005, I had Club Desjardins. I look at the price now and laugh. With two little boys, there’s absolutely no chance I’m paying between $700-$800 (cost) for a pair of seats. Mind you I sell the tickets I don’t use, but that’s still an expensive night. The cost represents a new television, or a forsome of golf at a nice course and a steak dinner. Heck, it’s a car payment…..

      It was worth every penny watching the Habs best the Bruins in the playoffs, but it can be taxing watching them play the Devils on a Tuesday night in January.

  35. Habitant in Surrey says:

    Excuse missing words on previous comment. I’m writing from My dang iPod. :)

  36. Habitant in Surrey says:

    I don’t get Youze (sum of Youze) Guyz slagging CFL football.

    I understand getting assimilated into the foreign hype (being a long-distance fan) of an American based team. It’s hard to resist. Some teams just match Your assumed self-image.

    I gravitated to the Brooklyn Dodgers and St Louis Cardinals in baseball. If the Expos were brought back they would trump all because I am still a Montrealer at heart despite living in Vancouver.

    NfL football I was smitten by Green Bay Packer football, with Paul Hornung, Bart Starr, Vince Lombardi et al.

    The Bears, Broncos, Patriots and 49ers were alternates.

    It’s difficult for Me to understand the Chargers have much of a following, but that’s just Me.

    We gravitate to images and hype We relate with.

    The Alouettes are going through a rough patch following Calvillo reaching the end of His playing career.

    You know what ?, if I had the time to sit My ass down and choose between a Patriots or Green Bay game and an Alouettes game today ? I would choose an Als’ game every time ! Just because that’s My team from where I was born.

    They may be not ‘fun’ to watch right now, but half of the past 20+ years it also hasn’t been ‘fun’ watching My Habs play hockey either.

    For sheer fun and unpredictability the CFL is a better entertainment product. I can’t stand interminable 4-down football. The NFL would be far more ‘watchable, for Me, if they adopted much of the CFL rules.

    I think many of You that slag the CFL do it because You feel a certain ‘cachet’ of one up-man ship , but, whatever stirs Your drink :)

    • JohnBellyful says:

      Hear, hear, HiS.
      I’m also a diehard CFL fan [so that immediately tells you I'm well over 50, and explains much of my unsophisticated nature].
      Sure, it’s hard to defend the one-sidedness of the East-West matchups this season but there have been good games among the defeats [all but one of the Ticats' many losses weren't decided until the final minute or so].
      The homegrown game can be every bit as entertaining as the NFL [which I also watch and am a fan of the Packers], even though its athletes aren’t as good and its payrolls are laughable.
      To each his own. I guess I’m no different from those who belittle the CFL in expressing a similar distaste for car racing. Its appeal totally eludes me. But until now I haven’t felt the need to make that opinion known. I do so only to suggest that perhaps our ‘hidden’ displeasures should stay hidden when it comes to other sports.
      I would hate to see this site riven by a clash of opposing views.

  37. HabmanSanDiego says:

    OK; must be a slow day if the team is commenting on quality of life in Hamilton and debating various attractions .. my word ……

    From my perch at the top of the hockey world in Southern California, (San Diego), I am appalled there has been no mention on this forum or in the press on the departure of Parros, Murray, and White. Who the hell is going to replace these dudes that have been the protectors ?

    What is MB thinking here?

    Don’t think Tinordi / Moen / Prust can fill the fight card.

    I smell a first round exit again even if we are lucky enought to make the playoffs. The maple loafs will eat us up for lunch..

    • wildwilly says:

      Yes, the truculent Maple Leafs have been very successful over the last decade. They are a perfect model to follow…

    • ProHabs says:

      The last paragraph of your post is nonsense. The rest of your post I will agree with.

      Bergevin still needs to add a or some players that will be willing the drop the mitts with some of the big boys. For that reason, if the Habs are thinking of resigning Bouillon, I would prefer to see them resign Douglas Murray. Murray to play 20 games and a full fledge goon to replace Parros and that would do.

  38. HabinBurlington says:

    Calgary signs Setoguchi.
    Bob McKenzie ✔ @TSNBobMcKenzie
    Follow
    CGY signs Devin Setoguchi. One year. $750K AAV.
    2:52 PM – 23 Aug 2014

  39. Paz says:

    Beaulieu and Galchenyuk…..exciting times ahead.
    We need more offence and these two have the skills.

  40. HabinBurlington says:

    According to the “Stats” Stockholm looks like a much much worse place than Hamilton.

    http://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&country2=Sweden&city1=Hamilton&city2=Stockholm

    • johnnylarue says:

      With all due respect to Hamilton, Stockholm is also much, much less ugly. Also can’t personally vouch for the quality of mussels and/or pickled herring in Hamilton…

    • PK says:

      Hey HiB.

      I am sure that Nygren would have had a different view of Hamilton if he had lived in Ancaster, Dundas, Stoney Creek etc.
      Why did he not get a place in Oakville or Burlington?
      Commute to work like many other folks that live on the west side of Lake Ontario.
      Obviously, most cities have good and bad areas, including all NHL cities. … maybe just a lack maturity and life experience, on his part …

      >>>> Les Canadiens sont là
      _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

      “Une équipe de hockey sur glace de l’île de Mont-Royal va gagner la Coupe de Lord Stanley à 24 reprises dans le 20e siècle et trois fois au cours du 21e siècle.”

      – Nostradamus, 1552

    • southaltahab says:

      Have you got “Stats” in quotations for a reason? Cause I don’t think that site is based on “Stats”. It’s like a Tripadvisor site according to Wikipedia.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I know, was posting that a little tongue in cheek.

        I know Hamilton, a 10-12 min. drive by vehicle to arena from my place in Burlington. No doubt that specific area in Hamilton is a bit rough, but plenty of great places nearby. In fact Bulldogs often had practises here in Burlington.

        My only point is the B.S. of Hamilton being so bad Nygren had to leave. I understand if he wasn’t comfortable culturally, but I think he is figured out that by playing off the Stereotype of Hamilton, he could justify his actions for leaving AHL to go back to Europe.

        He is welcomed to do so, but makes making the NHL a little harder is all.

        • Paz says:

          Imagine if every player in Hamilton who got a better offer in Europe would just pick up and leave.
          It’s a tough road to the NHL, and most AHL players never make it.
          The players are expected to battle through this adversity.
          The ones who choose not to are usually cast aside.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Exactly Ed. The payoff of an NHL guaranteed contract in a city like Montreal would seem to make “suffering” through a couple years in the AHL worth it.

    • mfDx says:

      Bad data.
      Look at your sample size. 55 “contributors” in Stocholm Vs 6 in Hamilton.
      Then, half of these numbers read more like a fear index rather than actual crime statistics. I bet more Swedes are worried about lung cancer than Hamiltonians…

      Sent from my CHphone

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I am more than aware the data is complete B.S., posted with sarcasm intended. I was googling for kicks crime rate of Stockholm compared to Hamilton and stumbled on this site. Was just having some fun with it.

  41. Mattyleg says:

    Good on ya, Stubbsie!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  42. 24 Cups says:

    The Grey Cup could be an embarrassment this fall. Here’s the cumulative record for the teams in the East and West up until today’s games:
    EAST > 6-24
    WEST > 28-10

    Yikes!

    24 Cups

  43. Nakasuga says:

    Hi everyone. Long time member-occasional poster. Took the Ice Bucket challenge and also talk about my daughter and the Run4Rett that takes place in September in Richmond Hill, Ontario. Thank You.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10204693064391090&l=7520615196144715098

  44. Timo says:

    I can’t believe nobody is talking about Wee Davey as a captain. I mean, he is 5 ft nothing, made it to the NHL despite all odds, un bon pti’t gars d’chez nous, a truly feel good story, the best center Habs leading scorer ever played with, says all the right things all the time, may even have Stubbs write a article about him one day how good of a guy he is… what more do people need?

    • punkster says:

      Don’t laugh…anything is possible…hell, I may even learn to hit a golf ball long and straight some day…though that’s just as unlikely.

      Release the Subbang!!!

    • Adidess says:

      Give DD a break, Timo. How do you know he didn’t grow a few inches in the off-season? :)

      Seriously, I think DD has his rightful place with the team and that may take a year or two to change. He will be expendable the day we have a better playmaker on the roster. Maybe some people have not realized, he’s the best offensive C on the team at this point, in terms of honed skills, vision, and production. Only Pacioretty had more points than him last year among forwards (and we all know what he does for Patches).

      • JF says:

        Agree about DD. No other forward on team has his vision and playmaking ability. Eller had a great playoffs, but he has always been inconsistent and has not so far shown anything like DD’s creativity with the puck. I like to replay in my head his hustle and sweet little pass to Pacioretty for the series-winning goal against the B’s.

  45. Adidess says:

    Picking up on UKRAINIAN’s comment that mentioned Bouillon’s alleged opinion of Pacioretty and Subban as potential Captain (‘they’re not ready’)…

    That statement strikes me as something one wouldn’t expect from a player still likely to join the roster and be sharing the room again with these two guys (if MB’s recent comment is to be believed).

    Why Bouillon would make a comment like that, to a journalist or anybody not in the room, is beyond me. So I should probably dismiss it as untrue at this point.

    But this is the internet, so why be reasonable when you can speculate and stir the pot a little? If I take this comment and link it with the fact that we’re still considering signing Bouillon, it leads me to the following… Does anybody think a team could decide to sign a trusted veteran, not necessarily because of his enduring skills or high likelihood of getting into the line-up, but primarily to influence things in the locker room in the way management/the coaching staff want or be their eyes and ears sort of thing? (Btw, there aren’t a ton of good reasons to sign Bouillon this year, at least for now)

    It sounds farfetched, but maybe Bouillon is somebody the Habs brass want back in the room this year because he’s a bit old school, relates to them well, especially with leaders like Gionta and Gorges gone. To me, other players would resent any teammate perceived to be playing a role like that. And wouldn’t Bouillon be above such a role?

  46. HabinBurlington says:

    Regarding Als game last night, happy to see Bombers win the game, but I can’t believe they couldn’t wash those new uniforms after clearly some Canada Geese left their mark on them!

    • habstrinifan says:

      What an awful game eh. I was a captive audience (on a stationary bike with no other good channel to watch) and still couldn’t get distracted enough by the game to forget the boredom of the workout.

      “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

      https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/no-habs-blackout-rds.

    • JUST ME says:

      Had they made a close-up on those uniforms i am sure we could have seen little bears and little cars…Last week`s Saskatchewan`s uniforms were not much better with the lime green touch…Sometimes i think they try too hard. They should work on the on the field product…

      Concerning my Als this is such a painfull season. Worst than what i had expected. Promissing signs in the last 2 games but still…Seems like there is no chemistry between every different squad on the team . Football is a close familly affair and rumors are that 85 did not help in the process. Never understood that move either and letting go Jamel even if he was on IRL. …

      Everything is going wrong this season and every game you have stupid pee-wee penalties that breaks the rythm if there was any…

      I must be a real real die hard fan to keep on listening to every game still…

      • JF says:

        I mostly can’t bear to watch. When Calvillo was near the end of his career, I predicted a couple of bad seasons since the team did not seem to be preparing anyone to take over; but I never thought they’d plumb the depths they have.

        I agree about lack of chemistry, and I think that is on the coach. With hindsight, they might have been better to delay appointing a new coach and let Popp do it again this year while they hunted for a quarterback. Get a new coach once they have their QB.

        The Crompton kid could be promising.

  47. crane says:

    Prust and Moen don’t make my top 12 for this year.I would need to see major improvement From Prust’s play off performance.

  48. Ian Cobb says:

    CFL, Montreal coach Tom Higgens has been assessed by me with 1st stages with Alzheimer’s! The rest of his coaching staff up in the booth are allowed out of the HOME twice a week to help him out!

  49. HardHabits says:

    Used to be the Grey Cup was usually if not always more entertaining than the Super Bowl but those days are long past. It’s not that the Grey Cup isn’t is a fun game to watch it’s just that now, or in recent NFL history, the Super Bowls aren’t decided by half time. There’s even been some changing of leads, whereas in the past a team got a lead and held it, notwithstanding Elway’s mad opening rush to a field goal, which subsequently was followed by four, and I said four, long bomb consecutive TD’s, or that’s how it looked from everybody’s stunned eyes. Did I digress again?

    People try to talk to me about the AL’s and I am all like, “Who?” “The CFL?” Really!?”

  50. Nostradumba$$ says:

    Where’s the outrage.

  51. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Lol Stubbs wearing that bow tie.

    Here’s my take on Montreal’s football team. I missed last nights game but ugh I read some stuff that said it was the same old song and dance.

    – Pro football players should be able to catch a ball, not the quarterbacks fault.

    – Garbage coaching.

    Next…

    I stumbled across a tweet from Tony Mariniro or meraino or whatever his last name is, that said Boullion says Pacioretty and Subban are not ready to be captains. I think if anyone knows, it is someone who has been in that room, take It for what it’s worth.

    Enjoy your day, I am certainly enjoying mine here in Normandy.

    • HardHabits says:

      The CFL is so semi-professional it’s semi-amateur.

    • on2ndthought says:

      Crompton throws bullets. Receivers need practice handling them, and the QB can learn which throws need the mustard, and which can be feathered. So far, Crompton appears to have good game awareness, that is huge.

      “a cannonading drive”

      • on2ndthought says:

        I’m a huge CFL fan. I wish the NFL brought in the real rules of NA football, and allowed their (obviously in most cases, superior) athletes to get into the game.

        “a cannonading drive”

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Real football starts Thursday Sept. 4th
      Green Bay at Seattle

      The 2nd Real Football league starts next Thursday.
      No. 21 Texas A&M @ No. 9 South Carolina.

      Everything else is amateur hour, like the…
      C-omedy
      F-ootball
      L-eague

      Once upon a time, it was good football when the Als had the likes of Sonny Wade, Junior Ah You, Dickie Harris, Carl Crennel, Vernon Perry, Charlie Zapiec, and Canadians like Hamilton bred Dalla Riva, Wally Buono, Gordon Judges, Tony Proudfoot, Larry Smith, Glen Weir and Quebecois Gabby Gregoire.

      • frontenac1 says:

        For me it’s NFL, CFL amigo. US college ball? Pftt. I prefer the Ladies Lingerie League.

      • UKRAINIANhab says:

        Spurrier is going to pick that defense apart. Im taking South Carolina +10.5. Post Manziel era is going to be tough for the Aggies… Wish they still were in the Big 12.

        Go Syracuse Orange, we kickoff friday against Nova! Roll Orange!!!!!!

  52. DipsyDoodler says:

    I don’t know how many read this interview with Magnus Nygren but:

    1. He sounds like a real jerk. Not in the sense of being a fearsome hockey player a la Chris Pronger (yuck) but in the sense of being immature, judgmental, and a bit of a crybaby.

    2. His view of Hamilton as a crime-ridden hell-hole strikes me as ignorant and maybe even a bit bigoted. I mentioned at the time that Stockholm has higher rates of unemployment and violent crime.

    3. And what to think of the priggish: “The guys who are thinking more of the singles to be dating after the match.” Maybe you should have dated a few “singles” too Magnus. Or were you back in your apartment drinking tea and reading Ibsen every night?

    4. His proof that the SHL is a high-level league is that a washed-up Chris Campoli couldn’t make it there. OK, how about the fact that you won their Norris trophy, Magnus? What does that say?

    5. Nonetheless, it doesn’t reflect well on Lefebvre and the Hamilton crew. Draft picks are the team’s main assets and even if they are d*cks you need to transform them into NHLers.

    —–

    ¯\(°_o)/¯

    • Nostradumba$$ says:

      “Nygren, however, would set the new event record by blasting a slap-shot that was clocked at 104.6 MPH to effectively end the competition.”
      Rare bird indeed.

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Thanks for finding this interview, DD. Nygren sounds like he needed good advice on finding a nice area to live of which there are many in Hamilton. Like any industrialized mid-sized city, Hamilton has unattractive parts, but while it isn’t a holiday destination for most, it is a city that has at least one nice person (JB). Kidding aside, it has been a great place for me to work for 28 years. Its top-notch university (McMaster) has more than 21,000 students, and employs more than 8,000 people. Its geography is quite beautiful, or as UCe might say, pulchritudinous. It shares the same geological land-split as Niagara Falls. It is surrounded by fruity things like orchards. Niagara and the Okanagan are Canada’s two fruit belts (I was going to type fruitiest places, but thought better of it). Golf courses around it are spectacular. JB, Retro-Mikey, Steeltown Habsfan, Burly, Kooch (or is it krob?), Luke, Chuck, others could do more than I can to highlight the good things of this industrial burg (or is it burgh?). Someone should have advised Magnus to not rent a cheapie on Barton Street, not that there’s anything wrong with that.
      Peace/Out

    • southaltahab says:

      I don’t know if he’s a jerk or not. It’s pretty hard to tell from the poor translation of the interview. He obviously didn’t feel comfortable in Hamilton and if he was enduring what he felt were personal threats and vandalism I can’t blame him for feeling he would rather be at home. Maybe he just doesn’t care if he plays in the NHL or not.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Ah, the interview that keeps on giving.

    • B says:

      I posted the same link last night as someone was trying to convince me that I was wrong in saying that Nygren bailed on the Dogs.

      I was torn on how much to be concerned with the Dogs coaches or the player development guys. Nygren seems to be way off base and exaggerating on many of his comments so I figured a large grain of salt was required in reading what he said. I hope that Bergevin is aware of what is going on and would have addressed any problems he felt existed with his staff guiding the prospects. The only lingering thought was that perhaps there was more to Brisebois’ leaving than just the stated reasons, but that was just a passing and unsubstantiated thought.

      –Go Habs Go!–

    • rhino514 says:

      Show me the stats on Stockholm. I find it very hard to believe that that city would not be a far more attractive place than Hamilton. We are talking about the most highly civilized part of the planet.

  53. habs001 says:

    Football? European football has started and Liga starts today ..North American football only starts a week from Thursday..
    lol..but that Als coach has that i am way over my head look..no pass interference challenge?

  54. habs001 says:

    Right now the way the potential line up looks with the Habs they may have the fewest fights in the league…The players that will have fights are also some of the players the team really does not wish for them to do this regularly…Fighting is not that important but team toughness may be a concern only because they way the NHL lets teams get away with intimidation and brutal hockey…

  55. Ian Cobb says:

    Front’s… I agree with you 100%

    I think we may have found our new Quarter Back last night for the Als.! But the coach has to go! he is brutal and the players won’t put up and play for him much longer.!!

    • nshab says:

      I couldn’t agree more ! Why he didn’t throw the challenge flag the first time, is beyond reasoning. Never mind the guys up stairs, listen to your QB. As far as the call that went to the Bombers that really won them the game. Once again we get screwed by the command centre in Toronto just like hockey.

      Habs are now back in the game.

      • on2ndthought says:

        I had tried hard to forget that ending. Agree on all counts. Plus Higgins has a deer in the headlights look, and clearly has lost the offensive line.

        “a cannonading drive”

    • frontenac1 says:

      Yeah that Crompton kid looks good. Nice arm and good mobility. All we need is a real coach,not a toy one.

  56. Maritime Ronn says:

    Jim – I think you got to him
    —-
    Brandon Prust Verified account
    ‏@BrandonPrust8
    Tossing n turning in my bed.. Why? Cause all I can think about is hockey!!! #signsitsgettingclose #cantsleep #9amworkout

  57. adamkennelly says:

    good old Valois pool…brings back memories of me schlepping a dozen 8 year old day campers on the commuter train from mo west…

  58. frontenac1 says:

    How the hell did Tom Higgins get the job coaching the Als and why is he still there? Total sh#t show.

    • Say Ash says:

      Worst Als team ever, Front? And what beverage do you recommend to accompany watching their games?

      • BJ says:

        As I posted below the worst I remember were the dark periods in the 60’s after Etcheverry left and Workman traded Hal Patterson. Fortunately we had George Dixon and Don Clark for some excitement.

      • on2ndthought says:

        The team is fine with a QB (and maybe Richardson back). If the receivers can catch up to the fast ball that Crompton throws, he might answer the QB question. Now get rid of Higgins, bring in LaPolice and let’s go!

        “a cannonading drive”

    • JF says:

      They’ve actually looked a bit better the last couple of games. They at least kept the score respectable. And the offence put up 16 points last night, which is not much less than its total for the rest of the games combined.

      But I agree about Higgins. He has yet to show that he knows what he’s doing. If it were just a matter of developing a quarterback, I could live with that and not expect much. But it’s not just the QB, the whole offence stinks. They’re undisciplined, they drop the ball, they look lost a lot of the time. The defence is not too bad and has been heroic the last couple of games except for the odd gaffe. But it’s certainly being a painful season, and I don’t see how next year can be much better.

  59. veryhabby says:

    My 14 year old was challenged by one of his hockey teammates. So he did it yesterday and he asked me to donated $10 on his behalf. I donated a tad more. He had fun doing it and took it seriously. Always good to teach kids to care and give. I won’t post the video..mostly cause I have no idea how. Lol. The team captain was also challenged, and he hasn’t responded. What type of leading is that? So…should the team get a new captain lol. Actually I think they r away so he’s got a reason. Captaincy overrated anyways!

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Charity and Empathy are wonderful attributes to show and teach the younger generation.

      …Or as ‘Julius Levinson’ said in the movie Independence Day:
      ” All you need is love. John Lennon. Smart man.”

  60. Mavid ® says:

    46
    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  61. Maritime Ronn says:

    Good morning

    There appears to be much Habs fans restlessness lately to get the season going, and that may be because the Habs are pretty boring lately….

    -Stable and great ownership and CEO in Mr. Molson.
    -Stable and outstanding management team lead by GMMB.
    -Stable and very good coaching.
    You Are What Your Record Says You Are – Bill Parcells

    – UFAs that actually WANT to play in Montreal
    Sekac could have chosen almost anywhere to sign, and there was NO overpayment for Malhotra, and transition vet Dmen Gilbert-Weaver…and don’t forget another guy like NCAA UFA Daniel Carr

    – An excellent young core.
    – Solid character vets
    – Finally a prospect pipeline that isn’t embarrassing.

    This Habs org. will never get “Leiweked”…..

  62. HabFab says:

    From Habs Prospects;

    Defenseman Nikolas Koberstein will join the Sioux Falls Stampede of the USHL for the 2014-15 season. (August 20)

    Higher competition level for our boy to develop in.

  63. JohnBellyful says:

    There should be an IceCup challenge.
    Championship-winning team has Stanley Cup filled with ice and water poured over players by Bettman (he stands on step ladder).

  64. HabFab says:

    NATIONAL POST: Outgoing MLSE president Tim Leiweke’s only regret was talking about staging championship parades. ” “I didn’t understand when I got here that it was the Montreal phrase for beating the crap out of Leafs fans,” he said with a smile on Friday.”

    :D :D :D

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2014/08/22/tim-leiwekes-one-regret-talking-about-parade-routes-to-toronto-sports-fans/

    • CH Marshall says:

      lol

      “nice job, bozo”

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      I thought you may have been joking…but yes, he actually said that!
      Incredible!

      And if you don’t think the LA Kings Management team lead by GM Dean Lombardi didn’t throw a huge party when Leiweke left…
      —————-
      ” TORONTO – When Dean Lombardi was about to hire Darryl Sutter as coach of the Los Angeles Kings, he did what all general managers must do.

      He went to his boss and informed him of the move he was prepared to make.

      The conversation didn’t go well.

      Lombardi was told in no uncertain terms that hiring Sutter wasn’t the right move, may be “the worst decision you’ve ever made” and speculated it “will end up costing you your job.”

      Lombardi, who had worked with Sutter in San Jose, made the hire he believed in nonetheless. Three years later, his coach is the envy of most in the NHL, Lombardi is running the model franchise and the Kings have two Stanley Cups under Sutter.

      And the boss who doubted Lombardi’s wisdom?

      His name: Tim Leiweke.

  65. Cal says:

    I am a little surprised that HIO hasn’t answered the ALS call with challenges to each other. This is my first step towards issuing that challenge. To get us in the mood for it, here is HIO’s Ice Bucket Song

  66. BJ says:

    This morning I’m not sure if its the ALS challenge or if the ALS are challenged?

    • frontenac1 says:

      I’ve not seen such incompetence from a coach as I have with Higgins. Last night was pathetic. Can’t believe Popp will let this continue unless Higgins is Wetenhall”s bumboy.

      • BJ says:

        The last couple of coaches have not worked out too well. I think they will have to look for both a new coach and hopefully someone steps forward as a #1 QB. It could be that the Als will look like those dark periods from the 60’s for a while. Good thing we had George Dixon and Don Clark for some excitement.

  67. Lafleurguy says:

    Gotta sign Joe Orca to do some enforcing.

  68. Habfun says:

    No time to be bummed, this is the first day of 2 weeks holidays. off to the golf course up in Arnprior (Sand Point) to play a quick 18 then out to take my 2 & 5yr old granddaughters to the fair! should be a fun day!
    Have a cousin with ALS a coworker started the ALS challenge at work 2 weeks ago. 5 employees and 5 clients – Sent in $1000.00 bucks last Wednesday!
    Enjoy life folks, it’s too short. Give where possible and love the rest.
    Have a great day!!

    It’s all about the CH

  69. Hobie says:

    Morning people. Nice work Stubbs!

    Now I’m starting to get the itch for the season to start. I’ve given up on the weather. What a bummer. The leaves in my yard here in Ottawa are already starting to change colours and hit the grass. August has been more like September. There’s supposed to be a couple more warm days next week but then it’s back down to the low 20s. So we might as well fast forward a few more weeks and get training camp going!

    Alex Galchenyuk. Was just reading an article on him and how some believe this will be the year where he takes a big step forward. They were comparing him to other players like Evander Kane and Tyler Seguin and how they started coming into their own around the same age as Galchenyuk is now.

    It’s quite possible our boy is a bit wiser, stronger and will be ready for prime time this season. There’s always different circumstances surrounding each player but I’d be disappointed with Galchnyuk if he didn’t put up a 20 goal and 50 point campaign this season.

    Then there’s Nate Beaulieu and Jarred Tinordi. I foresee them, at least Tinordi, rotating in and out of the lineup and playing 60 games this year. By seasons’ end, they should be regulars. Beaulieu closer to 80.

    If those three players play well, that will be the difference between us finishing in 5th to 8th position to 1st to 4th.

    Hobie’s Habs Video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byrgZ90b5Yw&feature=youtu.be

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      It has seemed to me that AG has been trying to play the expected way and still figuring it out. IMO he still has to achieve that comfort level before he can let loose a little more. I don’t know whether that will happen this year, but I hope he makes strides at least.

      • Hobie says:

        I think we’ll really be able to tell just by looking at some of these guys when they start rolling into town for training camp. The look in their eyes, their mannerisms, the roundness of their faces. Sounds silly but young players seem to grow in spurts. One year they look wet behind the ears and they next they look much older and mature. Hopefully that’s the case with these guys because when that happens things seem to fall into place.

        Back when I was in high school I was skinny as a rake but then in my early 20s I packed on some more muscle and weight. Galcheyuk and Tinordi still look skinny so they get banged around and can’t quite do what they want to do yet. Again, hopefully that has changed a bit since last year when we see them in training camp.

        Hobie’s Habs Video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byrgZ90b5Yw&feature=youtu.be

    • Habfan17 says:

      Good morning,

      I definitely can’t wait for the start to the season. I also read that article on Galchenyuk. I think part of his success will be an expanded role.

      Here is a great interview with Sherbak. This kid really wants to make the team this season and is doing everything he can to make it happen.
      http://www.habsaddict.com/2014/08/exclusive-interview-with-habs-prospect.html

      Habfan17

    • scamorza says:

      I agree think this should be a big step up year – pray for good health

      come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

  70. Arnou Ruelle says:

    Anybody here bummed up already? I guess everyone’s waiting for the New Season to start.

  71. CJ says:

    Boy this challenge has gone viral. It was only a matter of time before it reached HIO. I’m curious to see how this unfolds…..

  72. Habfan10912 says:

    Good morning everyone and nice work Dave! In a world where social media is often a beacon of bad behavior, the ALS challenge has been an example of the good that it can do.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      My brother challenged me and my other 2 brothers, our Pops would have been 83 this week if not for ALS. Little does my mother know upon my completion of this task later today that she will be issued the challenge.

      Have a nice day Jim!

  73. D Mex says:

    Primero – nicely done Dave Stubbs !

    ALWAYS Habs –
    D Mex

  74. twilighthours says:

    Saxophone at the end!

  75. CJ says:

    I’d rather drink a bottle of goldschlager. Man, I hate that stuff….

  76. HabinBurlington says:

    While I loved watching the Dan Fouts led Chargers, they are an AFC competitor of my Steelers. I don’t dislike the Chargers, but Steelers are my team. Just need to find some running backs that won’t hotbox their cars on the way to the airport now.

  77. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Watch out for Shamarko Thomas this year, Syracuse boy. Quite the player with an even better story behind him.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/27/troy-polamalu-taking-shamarko-thomas-under-his-wing/

  78. southaltahab says:

    Great song. So that means I’m old?

  79. AceMagnum says:

    What the Hell does this have to do with firing Therrien?

  80. southaltahab says:

    I’ve watched their Rockshow concert video a few times. They really were a great band. Jimmy McCulloch was a great player who died too young.

  81. on2ndthought says:

    mods

    “a cannonading drive”

  82. Ron says:

    They put it on the new thread as well but the mods cleaned it out. Missed this I guess.


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