Spacek not at Sunday morning practice

That must be a heckuva virus.

AUDIO: Ryan O’Byrne I and II (On Ovie) | Hal Gill | Brian Gionta | Jacques Martin

249 Comments

  1. Flabadagub says:

    Hey guys, no more free links to AHL games??!?!?

  2. TripleX says:

    Why?  That is the perfect opportunity for a rookie NHL coach.  Less pressure and media scrutiny and any progress will look good on his resume.  I don’t think Montreal is the best place to learn the ropes.

  3. WestHab says:

    Gill had some case of the sniffles in that audio clip. Don’t know about the rest of you but I think Gill is the most improved player from regular season to the playoffs.  I hope sniffles is his base line.

  4. Flabadagub says:

    So what? He’s a hockey player….. and he’s probably 10 times better than half the players in the NHL. What’s with the oppression??!?!? I do not see the logic.

  5. Les-Habitants says:

    Hopefully.  Who knows what the off-season will bring, but I really hope he is one day the NHL coach of the Habs.

    But let’s not get too distracted by what’s gonna happen after the playoffs, we have a HUGE game 6 to worry about!

  6. WestHab says:

    Based on the 3 teams you mentioned, I’d say he’ll stick with this organization.

  7. Les-Habitants says:

    I disagree.  I think this team has to show how far it can go, and I’m not sure throwing a 1st year pro in at this point would help.  He’ll be with the team next year, and I’d rather the learns his mistakes in the AHL than potentially cracking under the pressure.

    Plus, JM doesn’t know him, hasn’t had a full season to get use to him.  Leave him in Hamilton for now, they need him (the Dogs just got blown out in game 5)

  8. TomNickle says:

    I understand the win at all costs for the big club, I really do, but.  The chemistry concern is valid because P.K. doesn’t know a lot of things that come with chemistry as it relates to many of our players.  He isn’t familiar with who likes to take the first pass on their backhand or if they prefer to cut to the middle and take it on their forehand.  He doesn’t know where Markov or any other defenseman would like their pass located when sending the puck behind the net off the boards, he hasn’t played with our team long enough to gauge how quickly some of our forwards can close on a puck carrier on the backcheck which has a serious effect on his gap control and how aggressively he plays Caps coming into our zone.  He hasn’t played with them enough to communicate well with them.

    I think all of those things can lead to big mistakes that can cost us the most important game of the season and because of that I’d rather have Bergeron manning the point on the powerplay.

    Subban doesn’t have the big shot that everyone seems to think he does.  He’s an elite puck mover, not an elite shooter.  

     

     

     

    With Jacques Martin at the helm, we are doomed to be a good team instead of a great one

  9. Les-Habitants says:

    sorry double post

  10. andrewberkshire says:

    True enough, so does that somehow make him more appealing? Schneider at 40 is basically MAB without speed.

  11. Bill J says:

    Highly doubt Boucher is coaching anywhere BUT Montreal or Hamilton next year.

    Call it a serious hunch.

  12. joeybarrie says:

    Which TWO players are we talking about? I saw Schneider, Vrbata and Pyatt score power play goals… Schneider is the only one I know of who was part of the Canadiens. Maybe im wrong.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  13. ari says:

    better,let him go get nhl experience some where else,it is too much fuss for the coach

  14. TomNickle says:

    P.K. has never played the Capitals, so he hasn’t studied their forecheck, faceoffs, set plays, coverages and doesn’t know the tendencies of any of their players.  He has no chemistry with any of our roster players and the level of competition he’s played against in the AHL isn’t even close to the skill level that the Capitals bring.

    No logic?

     

    With Jacques Martin at the helm, we are doomed to be a good team instead of a great one

  15. adam76 says:

    we are 60 mins away from the golf course – time to roll the dice.

  16. adam76 says:

    He would be 6th defenceman – PP time.  who is suggesting putting the kid against Ovie?

     

    Quite the leap.

  17. Bill J says:

    You think playing MAB or Hammer on the PP right now is a better idea then playing Subban with Markov ?

    I mean this in the sense do we not want the best chance possible of forcing that game 7 ?

    Lose and Subban returns to Hamilton, win, he comes to Washington and tries to help the Habs win the series.

    RE: the chemistry concern:  Martin & Boucher are both running their teams as if players have “jobs” all PK has to do is come do his job HERE in Montreal, since Martin is quite aware of what PK’s job is in Hamilton, I doubt this is going to be a big problem.  PK will be fine with Markov.

    WIN-WIN at this point IMO Tom.

  18. TommyB says:

    Don’t know if this has been mentioned on here today, but…..CHCH news in Hamilton has reported today, that Bulldogs coach Boucher is on the short list of no less than 3 NHL teams (Atlanta, Columbus, and Tampa Bay).  So, anyone thinking the next Habs coach will be Boucher had better think a little harder.  Sure, the Habs may have to give permission for any team to speak to Boucher, but any team with the smallest shred of class, and credibility, would not stand in the way of the advancement of someone in their system.   And by the same token, any coach looking to make a career in the NHL is not going to sit back and wait for any certain team.  He is going to seize the opportunity and make the jump if the opportunity presents itself.  So, unless the Habs are prepared to make that move next fall, and I seriously doubt it, Boucher could be out of our system by training camp next season.  Too bad, but that’s show business.  Next?

  19. adam76 says:

    P.K. needs to be playing.  No logic in keeping him in the farm.

  20. wotever says:

    To be fair:

    Schneider was unhappy with his limited role and the Canucks were unhappy with his attitude. General manager Mike Gillis, Schneider’s former agent, met with his ex-client after the walkout and the sides agreed it would be best for the player to go elsewhere

    http://www.faceoff.com/hockey/teams/vancouver-canucks/story.html?id=2392462

    You’ll have to speak up – I’m wearing a towel.

  21. CHsam says:

    WOw. what the heck has he got ? Doc, make sure he stays away from the other guys.

  22. andrewberkshire says:

    Are you suggesting we should have signed two 40 year olds? One of which was claimed off waivers because he couldn’t even crack an injury depleted Vancouver lineup?

  23. TomNickle says:

    Unrealistic expectations would be put on P.K. Subban if he were called up though Ed.  Leaving him in Hamilton is a decision I agree with.

    He doesn’t have any kind of chemistry built with any current Habs roster players.  He has never played the Capitals which would work to more of a disadvantage than it would an advantage and he would be playing at home in an elimination playoff game.

    I would agree that calling him up with 10 games left in the season may have been a good idea.  I don’t believe it’s a good idea now though.

     

     

    With Jacques Martin at the helm, we are doomed to be a good team instead of a great one

  24. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey

    but the coach is against calling him up, so it will not happen.

    you can call up a “stay at home d-man” for any coach – but PK is the opposite.

     

  25. Big Ted says:

    That’s true but shoudn’t affect this decision. If a D goes down, you would still have Bergeron in reserve and in any case, then Subban would be up anyways. If a F goes down, we already have Maxwell and Darche on the team. If a goalie goes down, you are allowed an emergency call-up even if you’ve used up all of them, so long as there are no other goalies on the roster, which there wouldn’t be.

  26. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey

    are you in MTL???

  27. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey

    dude the fans in Montreal are in love with PK. The media loves him. The fans love him. The only one who does not want PK is Jake Martin

    JM is old school.

    PK is 100 per cent  NEW SCHOOL.

    JM would be afraid to use him – so what’s the use in calling him up?

  28. nightmare_49 says:

    …  Cup-Winning Goalies Are Rested Goalies …  by Jeff Z.Klein & Stu Hackel / NY Times …..  http://slapshot.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/24/cup-winning-goalies-are-rested-goalies/

  29. TripleX says:

    UMMMMMM….no one is saying play him for 25 minutes a game against Ovi dude.  Play him as a sixth Dman and PP specialist.

    Are you serious???

  30. ari says:

    i guess we got the same virus,knock me out for one week and counting.

  31. SlovakHab says:

    We only have 1 injury callup left from the farm as long as The Bulldogs are in the playoffs.

    If someone else got injured and we’d have already used this callup, we’d be screwed.

  32. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    I think we should immediately call up Subban, our finest defensive prospect, and put him up against Ovechkin in the most important game of the season. Yup. I think his vast experience with Semin/Ovie quality AHLers should make him bullet-proof, especially if he makes rookie mistakes that cost the Habs the game. Our fans are the kindest, most thoughtful and most reasonable people in the whole league – all of them have a balanced perspective on the importance of the team, and of their own importance in the universe. They wouldn’t ever hold a nervous rookie’s errors against him for eternity. Nah.

    Bring PK up, for the sake of all that is good and kind in the world of Habs’ fans. So what if the fans would still be screaming at him 150 years from now while he’s just trying to have a cold beer in that great Toe Blake’s Tavern in the sky? He won’t make a mistake!

  33. Cape Breton says:

    Spacek is a terrible defenceman, just like Bergeron, O’Byrne and Hamerlik are. And the $8M Gomez hates traffic, big time. But thank the good Lord for Gionta, Moen, Cammi, Moore, Lappi, Gill and Halek last game.

    GO HABS GO!

     

  34. nightmare_49 says:

    …  Capital Insider by Tarik El-Bashir :  Caps practice power play …..  http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalsinsider/ovechkin-caps-practice-power-p.html#more        ……..  Speaking of Belanger, he said Marc-Andre Bergeron, his former teammate with the Wild, called him to a apologize for knocking out eight of his teeth with a high stick on Friday. (Belanger had just gotten thousands of dollars of work done on his teeth last year, and until Game 5, might have had the nicest smile on the team.)

  35. TripleX says:

    Two players cast off by the Habs score PP goals for Phoenix.  LOL

  36. nightmare_49 says:

    … 

    from Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal,

    • Detroit GM Ken Holland will be saying goodbye to Jason Williams ($1.5 million), Kirk Maltby ($833,000) and Brad May ($482,000) to fit in Jiri Hudler’s $2.87-million salary cap hit next season. Every time I see Hudler, who’s on his way back from Moscow Dynamo, I remember Edmonton scout Frank Musil pleading with the Oilers to take the Czech kid in the first round of the 2002 draft, but back then they weren’t into small forwards. Hudler lasted until No. 58.

    • It’s interesting that Norris Trophy finalist Mike Green wasn’t on the ice on the last shift as the Washington Capitals tried to get the tying goal against the Montreal Canadiens on Friday. Rookie John Carlson got the call instead.

    • The more I watch the Caps, the more I think they should offer Tomas Fleischman or Eric Fehr and a draft pick to the Calgary Flames for Robyn Regehr….

  37. itpf says:

    weird… Toronto Star is reporting that management IS NOT changing were the kid stands… and using the same Cammy quote too. tsn still says they WILL change.

  38. Exit716 says:

    Dryden joined a team full of future hall of famers when he came up.

    Price…uh not so much….

  39. joe-hab-nuno says:

    I just googled czech beer and got a page with these beers, wanted to add to Bill’s addition. no problem

  40. TripleX says:

    Bettman does not want any controversy for the GREAT APE.

  41. dancevon says:

    Your welcome man!

  42. Say Ash says:

    that’s crazy – i’d stand the kid, ten of them, right in front of the door

  43. showey47 says:

    Perhaps ovy should realize that he is playing in our building, not his and we shouldn’t have to accomodate him  and what he claims to be his routine.

  44. Say Ash says:

    thanks, dude – you just gave me something to do next weekend

  45. Bill J says:

    Thanks for the link btw :)

  46. ABHabsfan says:

    Playing defense and playing goalie connot be compared as apples to apples. I have no doubt that PK can handle the situation. He doesn’t have to be on at the end of every period or kill every penalty or even play every powerplay. I don’t think anyone expects a hat-trick if he did end up playing. Goalies in Mtl are expected to steal games and let in no more than 2 goals /game and they had better be un-stoppable goals. PK will not be ruined as a future player (star) by playing one (hopefully more) games in the NHL play-offs. IMO the Habs chances are greatly increased if he is in the line-up and really there shouldn’t be anything more important than the next game. If they do lose, lose with the best possible players available and Subban is one of those.

  47. Danno says:

    Why should the kids move because that big ape is such an idiot?

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  48. itpf says:

    It might not have anything to do with maturity for Price. Sometimes he seems like his head’s not screwed on right. I’ve never met the guy… but the stuff he does really makes me wonder. And it’s not like “good not screwed on straight” in the tradition of Roy talking to his posts, skipping over the lines in the ice etc. It’s “I’m slightly mental” not screwed on straight.  Of course I’m sure there are situations when that kind of not screwed on straight can come in handy – say clearing the crease.

  49. terrygain says:

    You’re  welcome.  It wasn’t brilliant. It was just something you appear to lack: common sense.  When sarcasm isn’t understood as sarcasm the joke is on the person ineptly  attempting to use it.

    It  might be that you don’t understand sarcasm, but it’s more likely that you are using the explanation of sarcasm as cover for a dumb idea which I eviscerated. Or if you were  trying to mock those calling for PK to be called up, you can’t make clear distinctions.

    Were you this bad at refereeing? 

  50. itpf says:

    I saw on tsn that the management is moving the kids away from the bench. Seemed like Cammy was annoyed that they were moving the kids that for Ovy.

  51. sidhu says:

    “Let JM and Boucher switch positions. Lol.” – slapshot777

    “That’s what she said” – Michael Scott

  52. Bill J says:

    HabFab is right – on both

  53. Storm Man says:

    TAP is trading at 44.14 a share, 6 mil is pocket money for the Molsons at this point.

  54. Bill J says:

    I don’t get the impression Geoffrey Molson thinks like that, I sincerely hope you are wrong… For obvious reasons I hope you think you are wrong too…

    :-/

  55. TripleX says:

    Yes, I threw up a little in my mouth when JM was declared a genius for replacing an uderperforming player on the first line. DUH???  Many of us dummies have been asking for that for like a month.

    Point is, if Halak had not stood on his head JM would still be a DUMBASS.

  56. Say Ash says:

    Anybody curious to see what OV does as he goes to the bench tomorrow? I say have the same kid hold the flag and have OV hand him a signed shirt of something – although BGL holding the flag would be fun to see, too. I bet he’d be game.

  57. TripleX says:

    That is because he played college hockey for Cornell.  He played far fewer games than Price even though he was older and was still a rookie with SIX games experience when he won the Conn Smythe.

  58. topher5468 says:

    yes, on the 2nd 1 i know for sure

    “It’s not an obsession, It’s a way of life..”

  59. TripleX says:

    JM has brought the Molsons THREE home playoff games for a conservative profit of 6 MILLION.  The dude has a job for life I think and is not going anywhere.  For the Molsons money talks and talent can go for a walk.  Bye bye Pleks and Boucher.


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