Some pre-game reading

Red Fisher on a courageous kid
• Martin hopes for debate on discipline
Sopel is day-to-day
Dave Stubbs visits the great Glenn Hall
Bashing Bettman
Andrew Cohen’s great read in The Atlantic
Stu Cowan on a better helmet
Arpon Basu on CH injuries
Ken Dryden on hockey violence

126 Comments

  1. ths says:

    NHL is doomed while punk criminals like bettman are in charge and people like Kenny D are on the outside looking in.

    I wouldnt put it past that arrogant little sh1t to actually show his face in Montreal soon.

  2. CharlottetownHabbies says:

    The anarchists and other trouble makers would make it much worse.

  3. Bill H says:

    Cherry will never be part of any solution.  He’s a senile old man who doesn’t know what he is talking about. 

    Yes, of course the issue of concussions is a polarizing one.  But if you think that hockey fans everywhere are up in arms about this, take a look on some other web sites.  Its far from unanimous.  Its not just a few crazy broadcasters who stand up for it.  There are a lot of fans out there who don’t want that part of the game to change.

  4. Mattyleg says:

    Not to wee on your Wheaties, but I thought of you this morning reading Basu’s bashing of Your Boy.

    What you think of his comments?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  5. Danno says:

    The “cops” who police the NHL remind me of these guys Bugs…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3KplEGXwnE

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  6. Keith says:

    If Buttman were to come to Montreal in the near future and take a seat at the Bell Centre, I could envision some fan doing the same thing to him that was done to Clarence Campbell back in 1955, and we all know what happened after that altercation. I just hope Montrealer’s can keep a cool head if the POS was to go there on March 24th.

  7. Bill H says:

    Yes Kevin.  That is what all the discussion boils down to.  And while the debate continues, more athletes are getting concussions.  I think one of the keys is to modify equipment.  As others have pointed out, when you are armour plated, you can really hurt someone.  Make the padding softer.  That is the starting point.  Even Cherry agrees with that.

  8. Habfan4lfe says:

    Too much corruption in the NHL for anything to change. The only way to get change is to stop buying tickets, stop going and watching the games.

  9. shootdapuck says:

    Only if the earth returns to its normal axis and Jeremy Jacobs disappears.

    Without Colin Campbell in the league office whatya bet his kid is on the outside looking for work in June.

     

     

    … the fans of the Boston Bruins now have lost forever any right to complain that “the league” is out to get their team, and that the Montreal Canadiens have some kind of pull inside the NHL home office. Charles P. Pierce – Boston Globe

  10. Danno says:

    I don’t.

    Mr. Bettman and Mr. Campbell you are not welcome in Montreal. You have been warned.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  11. LTHF says:

    Wonder how the NHL can explain how they  rule on different situations.  Example   Kubina gets suspended  3 games on a hit on  blackhawks  Bolland where no penalty was called on the play. yet with a 5 minute major called on Chara and Paciorety  seriously injured they dont see fit to suspend Chara,  rather bizarre i think and  tells us what a sad state  the NHL is in.   Wonder  will the NHL suspend Joe thornton for his comments about Boston. Probably will since it appears they dont like the truth.

  12. Dee says:

    It would give me such pleasure to be sitting just behind Bettman and accidentally spill my pop and popcorn, or maybe an all dressed hot dog with extra mustard and relish on him.It would be an accident of course.Bettman or Campbell won’t show there face in the Bell Center any time soon. And BRUINS lost last night WOO HOO! Good write up this morning Mr,Boone.I agree any one can be thrown out.

    Habs Fan 4 Ever & Ever Amen.

     

  13. Ian Cobb says:

    A real gentelman and good sportsman. Chara’s true charicter. click at the second link of this video after the initial one.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K0_1pKzXaI

  14. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Ken Dryden said it best. “It’s time to stop being stupid”.

  15. JF says:

    In the Blue Jackets-Kings game last night, R.J. Umberger slammed Drew Doughty’s head into a metal stanchion. The players weren’t moving fast, and the play certainl;y wasn’t as dangerous as the hit on Pacioretty, but it was similar.  I wonder if there will be any disciplinary action, since in this case the victim instead of the perpetrator was a star.

  16. Ian Cobb says:
                                                                                                            March 11, 2011
    To Everyone Concerned,

    I am hoping that someone knows how to get a copy of this to Geoff Molson please. And all other NHL owners.

    I have spoken with OHL coach’s and a few former NHL players over the last couple days. They all agree that the Max hit was intentional. But they also said a few more things that make so much sense that I just wanted to send you this note.  We have to act now on this safety issue.

     

    The speed of the game today with all the changes, is making for a more deadly and higher serious result because of the (1) no red line now,  (2) the obstruction rule, allowing for no slowing down of the play. (3), And most importantly the body armour worn on the shoulders and elbows that are lethal weapons..

     

    There is no fear for the player giving the hit today. He will not be hurt like in the years of softer equipment worn. With the softer equipment, the hitting player had as much chance of getting hurt as the recipient of his hit, thereby holding back some of his force.

     

    Can you imagine getting a Gordie Howe elbow wearing this kind of armour, the neurology hospital beds would be full.

     

    It is all well and good for the NHL to try to put a better finesse hockey product on the ice, I support that, but with what consequences to brain cells and bones. They now have to find a way to put the genie back into the bottle before more of our kids are brain damaged and broken for life.

     

    Money and greed are dictating the rules, instead of a competent, dedicated and caring group, who will look out for the best interests of our kids and our game.

     

    Action must be taken right now. If not by the NHL owners, then by government and the courts. Every day wasted talking, will cause more of our kids bodies a life time of pain, suffering and even death.

     

    Please click onto this link and scroll down to the English video—The french text, click onto your translate button on google for the english.

    http://www.ckac.com/football/nouvelles/vid-o-la-dure-realite-d-un-commotionne-du-foot-62684.html

    Regards, from a very upset and concered 67yr. old hockey fan, hockey billet, minor coach & referee and hockey players grand parent. This is no longer the game that I loved all my life.

    Ian Cobb —-
    613-968-9807
    Belleville Ont. K8P 4K2

     

  17. observer says:

    its not the nhl – its bettman.

  18. observer says:

    c/p boston globe march 9, 2011 ————- Go back and look, folks. Last week against Tampa Bay, Milan Lucic executed a similar hit on Dana Tyrell late in the first period [hit takes place with :25 seconds left in the first period in video]. Tyrell hit the turnbuckle, too. The difference was that Tyrell got up and nobody was carried off, and so we all celebrated the hit and cited it as an example of playoff-caliber hockey.

    That hit was as every bit as ill-advised as this one. And so shame on all of us for focusing on the end result instead of the event that led up to it, which undoubtedly will result in Chara receiving some sort of well-earned, multi-game suspension.

  19. HabFanSince72 says:

    I’m happy to see my mafia analogy is spreading (not that I take any credit – it’s the obvious analogy).

    But a slight amendment: Bettman isn’t the mafioso, he’s the mafia lawyer. The weasel who goes to court to explain that his client is an honourable businessman, and that any misfortune that might have befallen his client’s competitor is nothing but an unfortunate accident. Buildings catch on fire, your honour, it’s part of life.

     

     

     

  20. The Cat says:

    You did ask why cant the people dethrone Bettman and Campbell…

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  21. Ian Cobb says:

    Bettman has been asked to attend Mtl. next home game Tuesday night.

    Listen to the link below.!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO4XPedB9mA

  22. HabFab says:

    Great read Ian…indeed the new equipment (almost armour) is the main cause of the concussions and injuries today.

    The second is a sport that is being too slow to get it’s act together in dealing with this.

    To make changes requires the team owners to make a change in the leagues leadership and core values, hopefully Geoff Molson and Mario Lemieux are up to the task.

  23. The Cat says:

    Bettman only does the biding of the owners. Bettman doesnt decide anything really. He doesnt come up with stuff and hope the owners go along with it.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  24. Danno says:

    I know this may futile but I am calling on Don Cherry of all people to take a stand against this madness tonight on Coaches Corner.

    Don, you can make a difference. You might be a loud-mouthed shnook but you are an influential one.

    It would be a noble gesture on your part.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  25. punkster says:

    During the brief times when my head cleared ;)

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  26. HabFab says:

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

     

    Dave, you must have spent the 70’s protesting! ;)

     

  27. habstrinifan says:

    Thank you Ian. I hope that the meetings coming up have on the agenda a discussion concerning the EQUIPMENT. It is becoming very apparent that the ‘protective’ equipment is a major factor. On this ISSUE Don Cherry has been right.

     

  28. punkster says:

    Mike Boone…good piece.

    Ken Dryden…we need more of the greats to wade in on this.

    HI/O folks…don’t be dissuaded by voices who say “they’ll never change”. We have the collective power to force change. Keep up the pressure.

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  29. smiler2729 says:

    You’re damn right that hit was intentional but how do we, the fan, get our voice heard in the National Headshot League???

    If we flood Geoff Molson’s or Gary Dumbass Bettman’s email account, who’s to say they will even read it??

  30. HabFab says:

    And who is the Chairman of the owners Board??

  31. SeriousFan09 says:

    I think Burrows was a different thing, Maclean was a minor, minor-league ref once upon a time so any assault on his old previous fraternity is like taking a leak in the middle of a church to a bible-thumper.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  32. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Great article by Mike Boone on the douchebag commissioner of our league & his stooge Campbell. He pretty much summed up the way most intelligent people feel about the incident Tuesday night & the state of the NHL. Like the article said, if the Egyptian people can dethrone a thug/dictator like Mubarak, why can’t we do the same with our thugs of Bettman & Campbell?

    I have a good feeling that something positive will come out of this near tragedy and the world of hockey will have no choice but thank the passionate fans of the red, white & blue. Get well soon Max Pac. Justice will be served.

  33. PrimeTime says:

    Of which just extended Bettmans contract 5 years.

  34. Strabo says:

    Great site Ian. I’ll certainly pass that one around. I have a friend who is a teacher at UNB, I’ll get him involved as well. His brother is a minor league coach so I’m sure we can get him also(although he is a Leafs fan, can’t have everything). In the end any fan of hockey has to be concerned about making it better. With only a few people ever making it pro, making it a safer game for the average person is of the utmost importance.

     

    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

  35. observer says:

    Penguins on police involvement –   –  —  — http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_727053.html

  36. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Great piece Ian. Please forward an invite to the Commish.

  37. The Cat says:

    The NHL needs bigger ice surfaces and safer structures within the rink, no chance in hell the owners will pay for that. The NHL is like any other company: money grubbing is way more important than the safety of individuals.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  38. SBAH says:

    And the worst contract in the NHL goes to  Gary “Little Czar” Bettman.

  39. Danno says:

    If so, that’s a Canadian connection I wouldn’t mind. Know what I’m sayin’ ;)

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  40. WindsorHab-10 says:

    I can almost guarantee that Don Cherry will not only say that Chara’s hit was clean and the league made the right decision but he will also add that this is a man’s game, a tough game and if you can’t handle it then don’t play it. He’ll rip Habs fans & the city of Montreal for demanding a criminal investigation & will conclude by giving a thumbs up to Mike Murphy.

  41. HabinBurlington says:

    I think watching the NHL right now is comparable to that of Groundhog Day.  Same thing every day with a slight twist on how the concussions are dealt.  Gary and Colin must just sit in their offices watching replays laughing and enjoying the carnage.

    And the worst part is that Gary does work for the owners.  And the owners did give him an extension.  Okay i officially now have a headache trying to figure out why this keeps happening.

  42. Ian Cobb says:

    How about your icon there. is she Canadian.?

  43. The Cat says:

    Well Bettman doesnt affect our lives like Mubarak -he doesnt rule the people nor is he a public official but rather the figure head of a business/entertainment entity that you can either watch or not… that would be the obvious flaw with that analogy.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  44. shootdapuck says:

    Ian,

    You need to contact sponsors of the NHL especially those with a Canadian connection.

     

     

     

     

    … the fans of the Boston Bruins now have lost forever any right to complain that “the league” is out to get their team, and that the Montreal Canadiens have some kind of pull inside the NHL home office. Charles P. Pierce – Boston Globe

  45. novahab says:

    There is no way Bettman is coming to Montreal next week or any time this year. IF the Habs some how found a way to win the cup Bettman would not be there to present it. Great Peice Mr. Boone you are putting my fath back in Journalism . This site has given a voice to the Canadiens fans we don’t always agree but we can be heard. Maybe the Gazette is ruled by Toronto interest but you have given the people a place to express their thoughts. Can the people on this site and in Montreal and around the country do the one thing thats the NHL needs more than anything else. That is get rid of Gary Bettman and put some one with a brain, a passsion and a love for the game at the top .

  46. PrimeTime says:

    Of which just extended Bettmans contract 5 years

  47. gumper says:

    Attaboy Danno. Sweet talk him.

  48. novahab says:

    First it wasn’t a analogy , it was a point being made. If the people of a country with few resources can over throw a evil crooked dictator of a counrty. Then the people who love the game of hockey should be able to get Bettman removed as the leader of this private business. Bottom line the people still have the power to speak up and get the right things done.

  49. Ian Cobb says:

    I am working with a group called ( playitcoolhockey.com ) Concussion Education, Prevention and Rehabilitation is what we do.

    We are being sponsored by the NHLPA, the Hockey Hall of Fame, NHL Alumni, and more great hockey people including Keith Primeau, who also had a career cut short.

    Play It Cool is determined to educate, all people involved in sports, the importance of protecting their child’s most precious asset, their mind and their spine.!

    Former hockey pro Kerry Goulet is our Director of Hockey Operations of Play it Cool Concussion Education Program.

    Please click onto, playitcoolhockey.com  and read about this great work.

     

     

  50. The Cat says:

    You have the right to live. You dont have the right to have the NHL be the way you want it to be.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  51. The Cat says:

    Exactly. Change isnt going to come from within, nor will the hockey media bite the hand that feeds it too hard.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  52. Omit says:

    Buttman and Colon!  There’s a good joke in there, but it would probably get deleted.

  53. SeriousFan09 says:

    Thanks Ian, I’ll spread it around by my modest means.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  54. Omit says:

    Colon will probably be given a “promotion”, not fired. 

  55. notbigbird says:

    It will be interesting. Cherry has been ranting about equipment for eons. As for the actual hit, we shall see.

  56. Omit says:

    Time wounds all heels.

  57. kirkiswork says:

    Off topic, but I would like to see Nigel Dawes get a shot.

  58. ed lopaz says:

    Don’t hold your breath – Maclean will repeat exactly what almost everyone has been saying.

    its unspeakable nonsense – but everyone who was not following the Chara Pacioretty conflict has arrived at the same conclusion

    Chara was interfering -and because Max was injured badly, he received the maximum penalty by the refs on the ice.

    he will continue…….

    HOWEVER…….

    it is not a suspendable offence to force a player into the boards, and short of PROVING that Chara wanted to injure

    Max, the NHL does not suspend a player for pushing another player into the turnbuckle.

    It will flow out of Maclean’s mouth without any hesitation.

    Where Maclean WILL take a stand is on the idea that something must be done to correct this going forward.

    First, the turnbuckle area must be made safer, he will argue

    Second, the GMs must bring in some ideas to slow down the head injuries

    Third, the players must support rule changes.

    And then the game will continue.

    What I find sad, is that Chara has been caught (by Max, Sedin and others) in some terrible lies.

    Lies that would have incriminated him in a court of law, because his credibility would have been completely shot.

    When Chara stated that he had no idea Max was even on the ice, that was a LIE.

    When Chara stated that he did not know he was up against the bench area of the ice, that too was a LIE.

    And it could have proven in court quite easily.

    The testimony of 5 or 10 defenceman with Chara’s experience would have been sufficient.

    Each and every defenceman would have testified that an NHL defenceman:

    MUST KNOW WHO IS ON THE ICE AT ALL TIMES – it is requirement of his job, especially a #1 d-man who is the most knowledgeable, and most important d-man on the team – and especially from a team Captain.

    NHL d-men MUST KNOW WHERE THEY ARE ON THE ICE at all times – skating parallel to the boards, with his head up, and taking at least 2 or 3 strides with Max right next to him, there was 0% chance Chara would not know where he was.

    These 2 lies having discredited Chara’s testimony, now we go to the issue of INTENT.

    We bring in Max to testify how Chara’s behaviour towards MAx was predatorial in nature.

    Max also testifies that he was convinced Chara was gunning for his head.

    It all comes together.

    Minimum 4 or 5 game suspension would be handed out.

    But this is NOT the reality.

    The reality is a miscarriage of justice supported by NHL cronies, violent fans, and soft peddling media who are afraid to take a stand.

    Geoff Molson gets it.

    I know he does.

    We will see if the NHL will allow M. Molson to make the changes that are required.

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  59. HabFanSince72 says:

     

    it’s an analogy Cat.

     

  60. HabFanSince72 says:

    At least Buttman has made money for the owners.

    I dispute that. NHL income is almost all from ticket sales. TV income in the US is woeful, and Bettman lost all the major networks.

    The increased revenue over the years is due to:

    1. 25% more franchises hence more ticket sales.

    2. The $CAD going from 0.60 to 1.00

    3. The massive increase in consumer spending in the US and Canada.

    He is costing Montreal and Toronto a lot of money, to name two franchises.

     

     

  61. smiler2729 says:

    They won’t. And Bobbleheaded Gary usually likes to be the one to hand the Stanley Cup to the winning team’s captain so you can bet he’ll fix it so the Habs don’t win, at least on home ice.

  62. Deano says:

    The only good news about the NHL structure is that it is a “Dictatorship” … right about now I would take Ken as my “Benevolent Dictator”

  63. NightRyder says:

    Ken Dryden has too much integrity to be the commissioner of the NHL. He would actually care about the game, its history and its players.

    Plus, it would take two hours to hand out the Stanley Cup once he got talking!!

    My biggest problem with Bettman is his apparent lack of love for the game. As Canadians, the passion flows through us. The game is inherent and beloved. We can all remember our dads lacing up our skates, pilfering Hockey Illustrateds from the school library and tuning in every Saturday night to Hockey Night in Canada.

    When we see a soulless little weasel whose only objective is to make money for Jeremy Jacobs and his other pals is so galling. Every public pronouncement is smug and condescending. Under Bettman’s watch, the game was taken from Quebec City and Winnipeg. His front office smacks of perceived conflict of interest.

    Has he made the owners happy? For the most part, yes. Expansion has lined their pockets and a natural upward progression in terms of franchise values and secondary revenue streams has supplemented taht. But really, other than gouging rich morons with big egos and giving them teams in lousy hockey markets, none of the rest really has anything to do with Bettman. A chimpanzee could have sat in his chair and those revenue streams would have progressed.

    But those are all hitting a plateau and Bettman is now showing his true colours. Blowing off sponsors, sputtering at media critics and, as usual, showing a complete disgregard for the fans of hockey. He might have a five-year contract in his back pocket but this time, I don’t think his braying (and growing) opposition will not be ignored.

    Little Napoleon may soon meet his Waterloo.

  64. Shiloh says:

    Follow the money. Simple, but true.

    A couple of years back, an extra round of the playoffs was considered to be worth $1.5 – $2 million a team. So, a vicious hit causing injury which might enable your team to get an extra round is not so different to a big shot taking out a million dollar hit on somebody. McLaren on Zednik, Koivu’s eye and now MaxPac. Accidents? Maybe, maybe not. But if they were, they were pretty lucky and lucrative accidents for the perpitrators.

    Remember the Godfather? When Don Corleone made the peace he admonished the others, “If some unlucky accident should befall my son Michael, then I do not forget – and then I do not forgive.”

    These “accidents” are potentially earning the perpitrators millions of dollars – and they should be made to feel the consequences of these “accidents”.

    An injury caused during the commission of a penalty is not a hockey play. A first-grader knows that. I am very, very close to ending a 60-year love affair with NHL hockey. Can’t take too much more of this.

  65. Keith says:

    I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one.

  66. Danno says:

    Oh hold on now. Don’t count the Habs out just yet.

    And wouldn’t it be sweet if the money-grubbing weasel had to scramble for an excuse to be unavailable to hand the cup to us?

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  67. Omit says:

    Ian, here’s a suggestion.  Arrange for a seminar at NHL headquarters. That way you can cut out the middlemen and go right to the source of the problem.

  68. Deano says:

    Too bad Ken Dryden’s intellect is wasted on politics (where he is limited by the bumbling of his friends and foes) … he would make a perfect commissioner.

  69. habstrinifan says:

    So would I. I guess they are ‘managing’ their call-up quota else I cant see why he would not have been called up.

  70. Deano says:

    LOL

     

    Yes … Ken would definitely extend the season by a week or two with his Stanley Cup presentation speech.

  71. Omit says:

    Don’t get me wrong about Buttman.  I have absolutely no use for his and the NHL’s short-sighted management approach to growing the business and reducing it to a bush league.  But the little schmuck has made them money for whatever reasons you list as well as others.

  72. Bugs says:

    I mighta bought Ed Robinson as the poster-child for the “film gangster going down in a hail of cop bullets in a really, really cool way”, that is, until I saw Kevin Costner’s virtuoso performance in the part a few years ago.

    Now THIS is how you “go down in a hail of bullets”, boooooy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri_aSJAGTy4

    Look at him go! Even gives a little something extra at the end; it’s beautiful.

    Enjoy.

  73. Danno says:

    It could be a defining moment. Bigger than when the Pope finally said it’s okay to use condoms

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  74. Bugs says:

    I think they were weak. According to him, Poolio was playing extraordinarily well when he first joined this club, scoring 13 goals in 20 games on account of “people having lost all hope in his abilities”. That’s why he played so well and scored so many goals. Being motivated to do so, by encouragement or confidence, apparently had nothing to do with it.

    I’m sorry, but I don’t buy those comments.

    It’s clear that in my boy’s case, the problem is psychological. If he had NO talent and couldn’t skate and the problem was physical, that would be worse. If you can’t play, you can’t play. But if the problem is between the ears holding the cap on the fountain of talent underneath…

    In my opinion, that can be worked on. His maturation will help as well. Plus he’ll be cheap, right?

    But Basu saying the more we despair, the more he plays well? I dunno…I don’t see the relation.

  75. observer says:

    look at the nfl. anyone even touching another players helmet is penalizedand/or fined whether it be to the qb or even another lineman. but these idiots running the show wont even look at what the most watched sports league does with this issue.

  76. HabinBurlington says:

    I agree that something drastic must happen in order to create change.  I love the idea of league operated by Canadians.  However, while Bettman is an American whose head is deeply rooted in the sand of a magical U.S. National TV contract which will never come to fruition (at least not with the dollars that would rival any of the other Big 3 sports).  This problem is not as simple as Canada Hockey Knowledge vs U.S. Hockey Knowledge.  We have Canadians involved and perpetuating this very issue of Headshots.  Colin Campbell and Mike Murphy are Canadians.  The Toronto Maple Leafs are still the most valuable (in financial terms only, I might add) and they have a GM (granted American) who sees no problems with the current conditions.  In fact the player he probably likes the most in Colton Orr has missed many games now with Concussion related problems and you don’t hear any concern from the team.  In fact living in the GTA I hardly read or hear that the team even knows he isn’t playing.

    Many of Canada’s loudest Hockey prognastigators preach the same Horse Poop that is coming from the Head Office in New York.

    This is a huge hockey culture problem.  It seems many of these people can’t look at the game without getting completely defensive whenever headshots occur.  It is like they feel someone is questioning their manhood when a question arises about the safety of the game.  It is mindboggling to me why these people can’t understand that those of questioning these plays are not asking no touch hockey.  We love a great game with speed skill and contact.  Would just love to see that the contact be within the original rules where it is used to seperate the player from the puck.  It isn’t that difficult.  It is in fact just that simple.  Yes there will still be dangerous plays and when the play involves bad decisions by players they will be punished, just as there team must be punished.  Right now teams don’t care about punishment to these players as they simply go to the ECHL or AHL to find another thug.

     

  77. Omit says:

    You’re probably right.  But don’t forget, the guys who played on the 70’s team are around 60 years old today. 

  78. smiler2729 says:

    Nobody crashed my net, lol, not only do I have a blocker (WHAM! POW!) but really big short tempered defencemen who treat me like their grandmother.

    I watched hockey in the ’70s and I watch reruns of those old games and that hockey is still entertaining, the speed of the game doesn’t make it better.  Ask your wife or girlfriend!

    Phil Esposito was so overrated and became an even bigger buffoon as GM and analyst. He should know something about falling properly (see Russia, 1972, game introductions)

  79. coachdoug says:

    lol…only relatively safe position on the ice…except now everyone is crashing the net at a much higher speed…

    The speed of the game and desire to “intimidate” is what is causing the problem…

    Cherry, Milbury, Espo and all these guys played a slow motion game…A good present day U-16 AAA team would have cleaned house playing a 70’s NHL team…

    I laugh when I hear all these “tough” guys talking about the “old” days…I heard Espo on XM radio mentioning that Max Pac wasn’t taught how to fall properly…what a dumbass

  80. SeriousFan09 says:

    Exactly how many 6’9″ players did Espo run up against in his day and how many of them directed his face directly into something like the turnbuckle?

    It’s hard to learn how to fall when you’re unconscious.

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  81. Danno says:

     That is really well said.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  82. habstrinifan says:

    The “destruction of a dream” could be a sub title of this entire incident. A fine young man’s dream and the dream of a team for an iconic player in their ‘power forward’ position.

    I hope that Max Pax returns healthy and able to continue playing. Even if he does though, would that dream still have the glow for him and for me as a fan. Would I feel ashamed that I am asking so much of him to need him to be what he looked like becoming.

    I recommend the following article with impressions by a former Montreal Canadien and some of Pacioretty coaches.

    It escapes all the recriminations and hate and focuses on the ‘dream’.

    The one thought that has devastated me throughout this week is the possible destruction of a young man’s dream. Ever since his interview with Tony on team990, I have been astounded by the purposeful and fearless determination of Max Pac to not have anyone impede or delimit him on his way towards that dream.

    And this is the character that is brought out by the remarks in this article. We have an outstanding ‘goal-oriented achiever’ on our team. Someone in his youth who brings to his sport the quiet dignity of, dare I say it, Jean Beliveau. Someone who was establishing for us an image that reminded us fans of the glorious legend of this team.

     

    Maybe that’s why I am so ‘lost’ right now. Because even at my advanced age, I like the Canadiens because I am in need of heroes. And Max Pac was acting like a hero for Canadien’s fan. He looked like becoming an iconic Canadien. Maybe, God, in his wondruous unfathomable way, is working his magic and this episode will become a cornerstone marker when future fans regale each other with stories of the ‘great Canadien, Max Pac’. 

     

    Right now it is just plain demoralising to think that something as wrong and unnecessary and outside the rules, as that hit was,  may have put an end to the career of this young man. And then have to deal with the myopia and insensitivity of Bettman and his league. Why should I ask this young kid to persevere for ‘my dream’ as a fan.

    Just sad!

    The article can be read here. It is one of the related articles on one of the pages offered on HIO’s reading list.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/another-injury-that-shook-the-league/article1939646/

     

  83. habstrinifan says:

    Thank you!

  84. punkster says:

    There continues to be a huge gap in people’s understanding of what a concussion involves, how it happens and its long term impacts. Helmets will never protect against concussion. As long as the NHL ignores the facts the concussion parade will continue. Shame on the NHL.

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  85. observer says:

    bettman the hockey expert back from his days as a hockey super star – told a congressional hearing 2 days ago that “these increased concussions were just because of players running into things and their head hitting the ice.” so maybe on monday bettman will institute a new rule for each arena to have softer ice?

  86. smiler2729 says:

    A better way to avoid concussions would be to switch to goalie like I did in 1989. 

    Yeah, I’m can still get concussed but at least I’m not hunted out there so the chances are diminished. 

    As for the bruises, flesh and ego, I can live with the trade off.

  87. coachdoug says:

    @ Stu Cowan…the Messier Helmet is a shameful sham…there is no real scientific evidence from an independent organization that any helmet helps prevent concussions…

    As a youth hockey coach I see parents buying this thing thinking they are protecting their kids from concussions when that is not the truth…in fact to create that idea is dangerous…

    The only helmet on the market that is shown to have better protection in an actual scientific crush test is the Easton one piece S19…

    Rapid decelleration causes concussions and no helmet will prevent that…Messier and crew are making money on parental fears and making kids think they are concussion “proof” when that is not the truth…

    Until Messier can provide some real data from HECC or either governing bodies they need to stop saying their helmet helps pevent concussions…

  88. observer says:

    Do not overestimate Habs’ owner’s power. If the 2 Canadian teams could have kept the NHL head office here when there were 4 US teams and 2 Canadian teams they would have. Now there are 4 times as many US team owners as Canadian team owners 24 to 6. Kinda makes it hard to outvote them. You notice to shut Torontpo and the UNION that owns the team, they allow the Hockey Hall of Fame to be tere(though Bettman moved the awards to Vegas OF COURSE) and also lets Toronto have the video review facility AND even blocks any attempt to bring a team to nearby Hamilton BUT gives MONTREAL nothing! Except the refereeing that makes you more suspitious each game. Bettman is a slimy weasel money grabber. I really think the 6 Canadian teams should just start their own league. The TV contracts here still will be there the seats will be filled and the real hockey cities in the USA would immediately apply to join them and end this assinine Phoenix, Atlanta, Nashville, Anaheim, etc. fixation of Bettman.

  89. HabinBurlington says:

    So in February of this year, Molson/Coors and the NHL announced a sponsorship deal which NHL COO John Collins describe “this is a monster deal”.

    So Mr. Bettman thinks Air Canada’s sponsorship is the equivalent of sweet d*ck all.  I am guessing he is thinking the same of Via Rails sponsorship of two Cdn teams and just hasn’t had time to enlighten us with his views on their letter.

    My question is, how should our owner of the Habs, who must have tremendous influence at the Family Business deal with this current sponsorship of a league which doesn’t listen to him or others of his ilk (Mario).

    Suggestions?  One thing we have to keep in mind is that this is a joint deal involving the Coors Company and not solely a Molson Deal.

    Continued best wishes to Max.  Hoping I can enjoy the game this afternoon, but somehow Mr. Bettman has made me feel dirty watching an NHL game and cheering.  Nothing to do with the Habs, but rather, indirectly I am cheering for a game played in a league run by Rogue lawyers.

    Today’s game is full of Irony given all that has occured in recent days and recent months.  Perhaps the camera will get a shot of Geoff Molson and Mario Lemieux sharing some ideas for the common ground they stand on.

  90. HabinBurlington says:

    The Isles are also an organization that discredits their media for ever questioning anything related to the Islanders.  Therefore we can assume that Mr. Rose speaks for the Islanders as he is nothing more than a puppet for that organization.

  91. smiler2729 says:

    Howie Rose is probably many things:

    - a complete idiot.

    - an NHL voice who wants to tow the NHL line that it was a hockey play gone wrong.

    - a moron who wants to take the opposite view of the majority so he can stand out and make a name for himself which he has here by you writing about him.

    - an ignorant chump who would change his tune drastically if it were John Tavares or Josh Bailey lying on the ice after being Chara’ed.

    - all of the above.

  92. observer says:

    as i said last night watching bruins at islanders game on islanders channel, isles announcer howie rose blamed pacioretty for being there, scoffed at guy from air canada, blamed bell centre for turnbuckle that btw is in all 30 arenas and said bettman answered the air canada guy back correctly. he did say the booing of chara by islanders fans last night was because they thought he deliberately tried to hurt pacioretti but that also was because they always boo chara anyways and paciorettti is from the area – conneticut.

  93. Bill J says:

    Aside from lack of stability caused by this idea (IE the glass will be held by what exactly then ?)

    I still think injuries could happen with this idea.

     

    But kudos to you on thinking about it, the freaking NHL doesn’t seem to be.

  94. Paulin98C says:

    A simple solution to the stanchion is to mount the glass a foot away from the board top. That simple… I can’t believe these “engineers” are only looking at if the padding is thick enough…

  95. Danno says:

    In Boone’s article Adam Steinberg says the following:

     

    “How is it that the Egyptians could get rid of Mubarak but we’re still stuck with Bettman and (Colin) Campbell? These two morons are what is really wrong with the game today. Bettman with his failed and idiotic ‘sunbelt strategy’ and Campbell with his refusal to suspend anyone for a length of time that will actually be a deterrent…

    Steinberg concludes: “Bettman’s reign of incompetence can be overthrown!!!!”

    The Quote du Jour goes to Mr. Steinberg!

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  96. Bob_Sacamano says:

    Completely agree but “Article du Jour” goes to Ken Dryden.

  97. observer says:

    nhl – been there done that ——————–   

    John A. Ziegler, Jr (born February 9, 1934 in Grosse Pointe, Michigan) was the fourth president of the NHL.

    In 1977, Ziegler became the fourth president of the NHL, succeeding Clarence Campbell. Before becoming league President, Ziegler was involved in the ownership of the Detroit Red Wings and chairman of the NHL Board of Governors.

    Ziegler received the Lester Patrick Trophy in 1984 and was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1987. He was forced out of office in 1992 by the settlement which resolved the ten-day player strike

    overthrown by bettman?

  98. bigdave says:

    Read this last night:

     

    “My empire is crumbling, My authority is questioned, Who am I?

     Moammar Gadhafi or Gary Bettman?”

     

     

     

    “The Allo Police Media – a collection of bitter ex-coaches, players and wannabees whose collective lack of success accounts for their present positions in Sports’ equivalent of the Jerry Springer Show”

  99. smiler2729 says:

    That’s such a cool idea!

    I buy that beer now and then (it’s great at a party when you want to drink a lot but don’t want to be a drunken fool or feel like crap in the morning)…

  100. Danno says:

     

     

    I had an idea the other day and maybe it’s crazy but I’ll share it with you anyways.

    And perhaps Geoff Molson reads this site from time to time and may like what I am about to suggest.

    Molson’s produces many fine beverages. The company recently released a beer called Molson Canadian 67 which is a calory-reduced beer with only 67 calories per bottle.

    I was thinking about Max Pacioretty who is number 67 of the Montreal Canadiens.

    And wouldn’t it be a noble gesture for the company to donate some of the proceeds of the sales of Molson Canadian 67 to the cause of fair play, sportsmanship and the movement against violence in hockey?

    In light of the tragic events which have occured to our beloved #67 of the Montreal Canadiens I see it as possibly being one more way the Molsons can continue to exert pressure on the NHL to change its attitude — towards such an unacceptable situation which is being allowed to continue without any appropriate response by the league.

    We will never forget what happened to Max. And maybe this idea could help the cause just a little bit.

    A video promoting Molson Canadian 67

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=274-qc0FZ3s

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  101. observer says:

    Bettman should have left the benchs on opposite sides like they were for the last near 100 years! No turnbuckles in every rink then! How petty, how damn cheap are these owners that they make the backup goalie sit apart from their team in a corridor/obstructed view location so they can sell TWO EXTRA TICKETS with most of these AMERICAN TEAMS having thousands of other empty seats each game?

  102. smiler2729 says:

    The Chara hit won’t go away and with good reason, we almost saw a death on the ice.

    The fact that Bettman’s boys saw nothing but a hockey play gone wrong is the issue that bugs us all. The National Headshot League continues…

    I play hockey, you play hockey, whether it be a municipal rink or the street, YOU ARE AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS. You know where the benches are, the doors, yes, the turnbuckles, you know where the parked car and the curb is, for Pete’s sake. Bias aside, Chara knew what he did and he knew it was wrong as soon as he did it.

    This joke of a league refuses to do a thing about headshots be they intentional or the result of an accidental hockey play. THAT is what has everybody from the fans to the government to the sponsors up in arms. And I can’t believe that the National Headshot League will let its brightest star retire (there’s talk the Crosby family are trying to talk Sid into quitting) from a concussion and continue to do nothing about headshots.

    The solutions are simple and many. The best would be to level an automatic 5 minute major and a game misconduct for ANY head contact, intentional or not. Just like a player has to be responsible for his high stick. Issues set supensions for repeat offenders. Hell, the NFL did it in one weekend! If Burke, Cherry and the Milbury types don’t like it, tough shit, the game is about skating and scoring not headhunting.

    Another solution so MaxPac-Chara never happens again is to move the benches back across the ice from each other as well as having a penalty box on each side to shut the whiners up. While these renos are being made, add a foot and a half to the rink diameter.

    Hey, while I’m dreaming, dump the shootout for 4-on-4 OT until somebody scores…

    I hate being disgusted with hockey but Gary’s Game is pushing me away.

  103. CharlottetownHabbies says:

    Trouble with English media in Canada is RDS mops them up when it comes to ratings for Habs games, so they are in effect the other teams broadcaster.  They get away with the slander because they know we’d rather watch RDS and not understand a damn thing then watch their crap.

  104. Exit716 says:

    Bettman’s profound arrogance towards Air Canada’s letter confirms what I’ve long suspected in my conspiracy-theorist mind. He couldn’t care less about Canadian hockey fans or the league’s Canadian corporate supporters. In Gary’s world, fans and corporations from Canada are an annoyance that has to be tolerated from time to time. Air Canada had the temerity to overshadow Bettman during his moment in Washington. I’m glad that Pierre McGuire finally has realized what fans already knew about Bettman. That’s he’s a pompous and arrogant jerk. I can hardly wait for CBC tonight to see what the mouth-breathing Bruins trifecta of Cherry, Stock and Milbury  have to say about this incident.

  105. Mats Naslund says:

    Brilliant peice by Ken Dryden who I sincerely hope keeps this issue alive. He is underutilized in politics and his opinion in this matter carries a weight and authority that no other politician posesses.

  106. Exit716 says:

    When Koivu was injured against Carolina, the next day the NHL issued a “the officials are doing a great job” memo from Stephen Walkom. Pacioretty….”incredibly comfortable with the decision” BS. How come I feel that if Chris Pronger nailed Brad Marchand into the boards like that, there would have been an immediate five to 10 game suspension?

     

  107. J Haul says:

    I’ve gotta say, Red’s article got me a little choked up. Hope the team reads it and follows his suggestion.


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